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Meru: Filming the Epic Climb | Nat Geo Live


We called this talk “The Making of Meru”

to try to give you guys some insight on how

a story like this, you know

a climb like this of rather epic, historic proportions

can be translated into a film for a general audience

that may have absolutely no knowledge of climbing.

I started working on this project

not really thinking about making a feature documentary.

It was really just about shooting for posterity.

And when I finally had a chance

to watch what Jimmy had sent me, I was just

struck this material, I’d never seen anything like it before.

And what was so special about this material

is unique to Jimmy and Renan and their particular skill-set

where they are professional climbers

and also professional shooters.

And it was just…

like, how visceral the footage was, how authentic it was

really moved me.

The shooting on it was certainly

one of the obvious great challenges.

Some expeditions are really based on the production

where the production kind of

almost finances or funds the trip

and it’s really about shooting and coming back with a story.

This climb was the opposite.

This climb was about the climb, it wasn’t about the shooting.

And you approach it very differently.

We had, you know, 400 yaks and

a huge team when we went to Everest to shoot

“The Wildest Dream”.

And on this climb it was Renan and I

shouldering each a small camera, and so…

it really made it kind of the ultimate challenge

as kind of a filmmaker for… expedition shooting, so…

there’s a ton of shots that we missed

and I try not to dwell on those too much but

( audience laughter )

And, you know

in the documentary world if you didn’t get it

it didn’t happen, so…

you know, then you’re juggling that pressure.

I mean, just a zillion details here that, you know

they’re not backing up their footage

they’re bringing a finite amount of cards

up on the mountain, alright

they have no batt–

like no way to charge their batteries.

And so, weight is a real issue

but I can’t, you know, as a documentary filmmaker

I can’t conceive of not being able to back-up my footage.

And not– and having a finite amount of tape.

So, it just charges these shots

I mean– it’s a lot of pressure

and that’s one of the things that makes

the footage just so special.

A lot of the rules of shooting go out the window.

Like, you’re supposed to have a head and a tail to every shot.

You know, so that there’s five seconds in front of it

in the beginning of the shot

and there’s five or ten seconds at the end of the shot

so the editor has some space to cut.

But our shots don’t have heads and tails.

And when you watch it, you know the…

it all– ’cause you have to hold your breath

when you’re shooting up there

and it’s really hard to hold your breath up there.

So, all the heads and tails go like this…

( inhales deeply )

( audience laughter )

And then the end of the shot is like…

( exhales )

( audience laughter )

And they’re like only 15 seconds long, this is no joke.

I mean, we’d sit in the edit room

we’d be like there must be more.

( audience laughter )

There must be more.

You know, like, we… it…

I don’t know, it was…

It posed this, you had these like kind of jewels of footage

yet with some very real-like narrative constraints around it

where there just wasn’t that much.

No, it was classic because we’d be sitting in the editing room

and everybody would be glued to the screen

and we’d be watching this clip

and it’d be like this great, great clip

and everybody is excited and then it would end

and then everybody would look at me.

( audience laughter )

And I’d be like, “Well, let me explain something to you.

We’re at 20,000 feet, I’m like trying to stack the rope

because Conrad’s basically starting to get to the point

where like, “You’re still shooting?

You should be stacking the rope.

You should be re-racking the gear.”

But that’s hard to explain to your editor

when you’re trying to make a film.

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