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you know we have a little bit of time

you know we have a little bit of time before this evening too to talk about

before this evening too to talk about

before this evening too to talk about some of the similarities and differences

some of the similarities and differences

some of the similarities and differences and between our work and certainly at

and between our work and certainly at

and between our work and certainly at the most basic level I think we’re both

the most basic level I think we’re both

the most basic level I think we’re both interested in exploring the invisible in

interested in exploring the invisible in

interested in exploring the invisible in the case of Adam it’s exploring the

the case of Adam it’s exploring the

the case of Adam it’s exploring the far-distant gallons that galaxies

far-distant gallons that galaxies

far-distant gallons that galaxies light-years away for me it’s what’s

light-years away for me it’s what’s

light-years away for me it’s what’s right beneath our feet and the

right beneath our feet and the

right beneath our feet and the underground underworld so to speak so I

underground underworld so to speak so I

underground underworld so to speak so I think will will I’ll give an

think will will I’ll give an

think will will I’ll give an introduction to my world

introduction to my world

introduction to my world and then hopefully during the discussion

and then hopefully during the discussion

and then hopefully during the discussion after adam’s talk we’ll get a sense of

after adam’s talk we’ll get a sense of

after adam’s talk we’ll get a sense of what we do

what we do

what we do base similarities we both use our heads

base similarities we both use our heads

base similarities we both use our heads in Adams case it’s a kind of complex

in Adams case it’s a kind of complex

in Adams case it’s a kind of complex mathematics this is actually a seventeen

mathematics this is actually a seventeen

mathematics this is actually a seventeen hundred year old BC what people think is

hundred year old BC what people think is

hundred year old BC what people think is the first approximation of the square

the first approximation of the square

the first approximation of the square root of two but kind of fundamental

root of two but kind of fundamental

root of two but kind of fundamental mathematics I also similarly I use my

mathematics I also similarly I use my

mathematics I also similarly I use my head but Moore is a battering ram right

head but Moore is a battering ram right

head but Moore is a battering ram right here for getting into the blue holes and

here for getting into the blue holes and

here for getting into the blue holes and this is you know literally a lot of what

this is you know literally a lot of what

this is you know literally a lot of what we do is physically search and put

we do is physically search and put

we do is physically search and put ourselves into these kind of mysterious

ourselves into these kind of mysterious

ourselves into these kind of mysterious invisible beneath our feet worlds and I

invisible beneath our feet worlds and I

invisible beneath our feet worlds and I think yeah and you just kind of go in

think yeah and you just kind of go in

think yeah and you just kind of go in there and you don’t know what you’re

there and you don’t know what you’re

there and you don’t know what you’re going to find and my mother when she saw

going to find and my mother when she saw

going to find and my mother when she saw this her comment was you went to school

this her comment was you went to school

this her comment was you went to school for how many years to do that but once

for how many years to do that but once

for how many years to do that but once you do get into these places you really

you do get into these places you really

you do get into these places you really are kind of become a physically a

are kind of become a physically a

are kind of become a physically a time-traveler you get into these time

time-traveler you get into these time

time-traveler you get into these time capsules and what I used to consider

capsules and what I used to consider

capsules and what I used to consider again before really thinking about the

again before really thinking about the

again before really thinking about the kind of stuff that that Adam works on is

kind of stuff that that Adam works on is

kind of stuff that that Adam works on is that some of the things we found in

that some of the things we found in

that some of the things we found in these holes were taking us back to what

these holes were taking us back to what

these holes were taking us back to what I would call deep time which is very

I would call deep time which is very

I would call deep time which is very shallow time by his standards as you’ll

shallow time by his standards as you’ll

shallow time by his standards as you’ll see but really to the the origin of the

see but really to the the origin of the

see but really to the the origin of the earth if we think about the earth about

earth if we think about the earth about

earth if we think about the earth about four-and-a-half billion years old

four-and-a-half billion years old

four-and-a-half billion years old it’s only in the last two and a half

it’s only in the last two and a half

it’s only in the last two and a half billion years where we’ve even had

billion years where we’ve even had

billion years where we’ve even had enough oxygen to keep life alive but the

enough oxygen to keep life alive but the

enough oxygen to keep life alive but the earliest forms of life for microbial

earliest forms of life for microbial

earliest forms of life for microbial forms of life and as you’ll see blue

forms of life and as you’ll see blue

forms of life and as you’ll see blue holes are kind of a modern-day

holes are kind of a modern-day

holes are kind of a modern-day analogy for what we think some of this

analogy for what we think some of this

analogy for what we think some of this these early forms of life evolved out of

these early forms of life evolved out of

these early forms of life evolved out of them and their forms of life that didn’t

them and their forms of life that didn’t

them and their forms of life that didn’t leave a fossil record so we look for

leave a fossil record so we look for

leave a fossil record so we look for these these places on earth where we can

these these places on earth where we can

these these places on earth where we can study them at about 2 and 1/2 billion

study them at about 2 and 1/2 billion

study them at about 2 and 1/2 billion years before present we had what people

years before present we had what people

years before present we had what people refer to as the oxygen revolution where

refer to as the oxygen revolution where

refer to as the oxygen revolution where certain type of bacteria you probably

certain type of bacteria you probably

certain type of bacteria you probably heard of cyanobacteria out competed a

heard of cyanobacteria out competed a

heard of cyanobacteria out competed a lot of the other organisms and microbes

lot of the other organisms and microbes

lot of the other organisms and microbes and the byproduct of the cyanobacteria

and the byproduct of the cyanobacteria

and the byproduct of the cyanobacteria is the oxygen that that makes our earth

is the oxygen that that makes our earth

is the oxygen that that makes our earth livable and it’s really at the the end

livable and it’s really at the the end

livable and it’s really at the the end of the timeline where the life as we

of the timeline where the life as we

of the timeline where the life as we know it comes across and as Andrew Knoll

know it comes across and as Andrew Knoll

know it comes across and as Andrew Knoll and evolutionary biologist said if you

and evolutionary biologist said if you

and evolutionary biologist said if you think that you know humans are the icing

think that you know humans are the icing

think that you know humans are the icing on the cake the cake is really made up

on the cake the cake is really made up

on the cake the cake is really made up of bacteria and I think that’s a nice

of bacteria and I think that’s a nice

of bacteria and I think that’s a nice way to think about about this sort of

way to think about about this sort of

way to think about about this sort of evolution so I don’t know what it’s hard

evolution so I don’t know what it’s hard

evolution so I don’t know what it’s hard to see with a the light on me how many

to see with a the light on me how many

to see with a the light on me how many divers you can yell out how many divers

divers you can yell out how many divers

divers you can yell out how many divers in the audience Oh quite a few

in the audience Oh quite a few

in the audience Oh quite a few how many cave divers oh not many good

how many cave divers oh not many good

how many cave divers oh not many good job security but if you can kill the

job security but if you can kill the

job security but if you can kill the light thanks guys for those of you

light thanks guys for those of you

light thanks guys for those of you that’s actually what an underwater cave

that’s actually what an underwater cave

that’s actually what an underwater cave looks like I take full credit for the

looks like I take full credit for the

looks like I take full credit for the photo as I know our Sadie our photo

photo as I know our Sadie our photo

photo as I know our Sadie our photo editor for the magazine Sadie courrier

editor for the magazine Sadie courrier

editor for the magazine Sadie courrier she’ll see that’s about as skilled as my

she’ll see that’s about as skilled as my

she’ll see that’s about as skilled as my photos are and I’ll show a lot of

photos are and I’ll show a lot of

photos are and I’ll show a lot of beautiful photos and I bet I take no

beautiful photos and I bet I take no

beautiful photos and I bet I take no credit for them that’s what a blue hole

credit for them that’s what a blue hole

credit for them that’s what a blue hole looks like looking up from about a

looks like looking up from about a

looks like looking up from about a hundred meters over 300 feet looking at

hundred meters over 300 feet looking at

hundred meters over 300 feet looking at the entrance as two divers descend down

the entrance as two divers descend down

the entrance as two divers descend down into the hole and then you get into

into the hole and then you get into

into the hole and then you get into these otherworldly sorts of situations

these otherworldly sorts of situations

these otherworldly sorts of situations what you really feel like you’re in this

what you really feel like you’re in this

what you really feel like you’re in this inner space that’s an offshore blue hole

inner space that’s an offshore blue hole

inner space that’s an offshore blue hole so I’ll talk about two kinds of blue

so I’ll talk about two kinds of blue

so I’ll talk about two kinds of blue holes offshore and that’s in Long Island

holes offshore and that’s in Long Island

holes offshore and that’s in Long Island Bahamas that’s the deepest known blue

Bahamas that’s the deepest known blue

Bahamas that’s the deepest known blue hole in the world it’s about 660 feet

hole in the world it’s about 660 feet

hole in the world it’s about 660 feet deep and there’s inland blue holes that

deep and there’s inland blue holes that

deep and there’s inland blue holes that one’s in the pine yards in Abaco Bahamas

one’s in the pine yards in Abaco Bahamas

one’s in the pine yards in Abaco Bahamas so let me get a little bit into the

so let me get a little bit into the

so let me get a little bit into the anatomy of a Blue Hole if you think

anatomy of a Blue Hole if you think

anatomy of a Blue Hole if you think about it hidden I give you the Reader’s

about it hidden I give you the Reader’s

about it hidden I give you the Reader’s Digest version you have rain coming down

Digest version you have rain coming down

Digest version you have rain coming down through the atmosphere picks up a little

through the atmosphere picks up a little

through the atmosphere picks up a little bit of carbon dioxide becomes slightly

bit of carbon dioxide becomes slightly

bit of carbon dioxide becomes slightly acidic hits limestone which could

acidic hits limestone which could

acidic hits limestone which could think of the calcium carbonate almost

think of the calcium carbonate almost

think of the calcium carbonate almost chalk like it can eat away in form

chalk like it can eat away in form

chalk like it can eat away in form reservoirs of water down beneath our

reservoirs of water down beneath our

reservoirs of water down beneath our feet but that’s just how you get the

feet but that’s just how you get the

feet but that’s just how you get the fresh water down there how you get the

fresh water down there how you get the

fresh water down there how you get the lateral cave formation is where that

lateral cave formation is where that

lateral cave formation is where that fresh water meets the salt water that’s

fresh water meets the salt water that’s

fresh water meets the salt water that’s at the equivalent of where sea level is

at the equivalent of where sea level is

at the equivalent of where sea level is that’s come in either through cave

that’s come in either through cave

that’s come in either through cave conduits or through the limestone itself

conduits or through the limestone itself

conduits or through the limestone itself it’s as if we’re standing on a sponge

it’s as if we’re standing on a sponge

it’s as if we’re standing on a sponge and there’s many places in the world

and there’s many places in the world

and there’s many places in the world that have this kind of geology well

that have this kind of geology well

that have this kind of geology well there’s a chemical reaction that occurs

there’s a chemical reaction that occurs

there’s a chemical reaction that occurs at that interface at the halocline and

at that interface at the halocline and

at that interface at the halocline and that eats away the cave then when sea

that eats away the cave then when sea

that eats away the cave then when sea level falls or Rises depending on the

level falls or Rises depending on the

level falls or Rises depending on the ice ages for example 20 thousand years

ice ages for example 20 thousand years

ice ages for example 20 thousand years ago the sea level around the Bahamas in

ago the sea level around the Bahamas in

ago the sea level around the Bahamas in Florida was about 400 feet lower than

Florida was about 400 feet lower than

Florida was about 400 feet lower than present-day you’ll get cave formation at

present-day you’ll get cave formation at

present-day you’ll get cave formation at that level sea level will rise stop for

that level sea level will rise stop for

that level sea level will rise stop for a while you get caves for me at that

a while you get caves for me at that

a while you get caves for me at that level and that’s how you can get miles

level and that’s how you can get miles

level and that’s how you can get miles and miles of lateral cave passageway so

and miles of lateral cave passageway so

and miles of lateral cave passageway so as I mentioned these these caves are

as I mentioned these these caves are

as I mentioned these these caves are modern-day analogs for what we think

modern-day analogs for what we think

modern-day analogs for what we think these ancient oceans were like so we

these ancient oceans were like so we

these ancient oceans were like so we have this freshwater lighter fresh water

have this freshwater lighter fresh water

have this freshwater lighter fresh water and it’s got oxygen in it and then

and it’s got oxygen in it and then

and it’s got oxygen in it and then you’ve got this dense or salt water

you’ve got this dense or salt water

you’ve got this dense or salt water beneath it and you’ve got over hundreds

beneath it and you’ve got over hundreds

beneath it and you’ve got over hundreds of thousands of years organic matter so

of thousands of years organic matter so

of thousands of years organic matter so you’ve got plants and trees and animals

you’ve got plants and trees and animals

you’ve got plants and trees and animals falling in and sinking to the bottom

falling in and sinking to the bottom

falling in and sinking to the bottom there there’s microbes that actually

there there’s microbes that actually

there there’s microbes that actually feed off this get their energy from

feed off this get their energy from

feed off this get their energy from these carbon sources and they combine

these carbon sources and they combine

these carbon sources and they combine with the sulfate that’s found in

with the sulfate that’s found in

with the sulfate that’s found in seawater and the byproduct is this sword

seawater and the byproduct is this sword

seawater and the byproduct is this sword a sore hydrogen sulfide which we’ve all

a sore hydrogen sulfide which we’ve all

a sore hydrogen sulfide which we’ve all smelled the rotten eggs sulfur springs

smelled the rotten eggs sulfur springs

smelled the rotten eggs sulfur springs and kind of very poisonous in gaseous

and kind of very poisonous in gaseous

and kind of very poisonous in gaseous form and there’s a whole set of life

form and there’s a whole set of life

form and there’s a whole set of life that lives in that layer as well off

that lives in that layer as well off

that lives in that layer as well off this hydrogen sulfide so we’ve got

this hydrogen sulfide so we’ve got

this hydrogen sulfide so we’ve got different forms of life that we can

different forms of life that we can

different forms of life that we can study from a genetic perspective as well

study from a genetic perspective as well

study from a genetic perspective as well as looking at them in context and get a

as looking at them in context and get a

as looking at them in context and get a sense of what life might have been like

sense of what life might have been like

sense of what life might have been like billions of years ago let me just show

billions of years ago let me just show

billions of years ago let me just show you some of the forms of life that we

you some of the forms of life that we

you some of the forms of life that we find in there this is the big stuff this

find in there this is the big stuff this

find in there this is the big stuff this is the recent finds that’s dr. Tom Iliff

is the recent finds that’s dr. Tom Iliff

is the recent finds that’s dr. Tom Iliff who’s catching a loose if you got blind

who’s catching a loose if you got blind

who’s catching a loose if you got blind cave fish most of the creatures are

cave fish most of the creatures are

cave fish most of the creatures are blind there’s no reason to put your

blind there’s no reason to put your

blind there’s no reason to put your evolutionary

evolutionary

evolutionary energy into eyes or optic nerves and

energy into eyes or optic nerves and

energy into eyes or optic nerves and these creatures that probably remain

these creatures that probably remain

these creatures that probably remain unchanged for about 200 million years

unchanged for about 200 million years

unchanged for about 200 million years some of them not only found just in the

some of them not only found just in the

some of them not only found just in the Bahamas

Bahamas

Bahamas not just in underwater caves but only

not just in underwater caves but only

not just in underwater caves but only have seen them in one cave it shows you

have seen them in one cave it shows you

have seen them in one cave it shows you how little we know about this very

how little we know about this very

how little we know about this very fragile ecosystem no eyes translucent

fragile ecosystem no eyes translucent

fragile ecosystem no eyes translucent that’s a remnant eye with no optic nerve

that’s a remnant eye with no optic nerve

that’s a remnant eye with no optic nerve which tells us that it probably evolved

which tells us that it probably evolved

which tells us that it probably evolved from originally from the oceans that’s a

from originally from the oceans that’s a

from originally from the oceans that’s a new class of crustaceans that was found

new class of crustaceans that was found

new class of crustaceans that was found in the Bahamas in the 70s and we found

in the Bahamas in the 70s and we found

in the Bahamas in the 70s and we found subsequent species remipede iya so that

subsequent species remipede iya so that

subsequent species remipede iya so that was a major find out of the blue holes

was a major find out of the blue holes

was a major find out of the blue holes there’s a close-up they have venomous

there’s a close-up they have venomous

there’s a close-up they have venomous fangs but this is about the extent of my

fangs but this is about the extent of my

fangs but this is about the extent of my experience with astronomy which is my

experience with astronomy which is my

experience with astronomy which is my screensaver on my Mac so you know I

screensaver on my Mac so you know I

screensaver on my Mac so you know I assume I was brought here to make Adam

assume I was brought here to make Adam

assume I was brought here to make Adam look particularly smart but it did when

look particularly smart but it did when

look particularly smart but it did when I did see this it does at least

I did see this it does at least

I did see this it does at least metaphorically I make the link to what

metaphorically I make the link to what

metaphorically I make the link to what goes on with potential forms of life in

goes on with potential forms of life in

goes on with potential forms of life in certain places like Europa and Mars and

certain places like Europa and Mars and

certain places like Europa and Mars and that brings us back to the blue holes

that brings us back to the blue holes

that brings us back to the blue holes and that’s actually a shot of 30 feet

and that’s actually a shot of 30 feet

and that’s actually a shot of 30 feet deep 10 meters deep and if you were

deep 10 meters deep and if you were

deep 10 meters deep and if you were diving down descending you would hit

diving down descending you would hit

diving down descending you would hit what looks like these rings of Saturn

what looks like these rings of Saturn

what looks like these rings of Saturn and that’s the hydrogen sulfide layer

and that’s the hydrogen sulfide layer

and that’s the hydrogen sulfide layer and the pink is actually the

and the pink is actually the

and the pink is actually the pigmentation in the cells of the

pigmentation in the cells of the

pigmentation in the cells of the bacteria it’s that voluminous and the

bacteria it’s that voluminous and the

bacteria it’s that voluminous and the white is sulfur elemental sulfur that’s

white is sulfur elemental sulfur that’s

white is sulfur elemental sulfur that’s broken down and the chemosynthesis or

broken down and the chemosynthesis or

broken down and the chemosynthesis or the metabolic process of the bacteria so

the metabolic process of the bacteria so

the metabolic process of the bacteria so you’re literally descending down into

you’re literally descending down into

you’re literally descending down into this noxious layer you start to smell

this noxious layer you start to smell

this noxious layer you start to smell the rotten egg smell before you can get

the rotten egg smell before you can get

the rotten egg smell before you can get to it and obviously you’re wearing a

to it and obviously you’re wearing a

to it and obviously you’re wearing a face mask so you’re not smelling it

face mask so you’re not smelling it

face mask so you’re not smelling it through your nose it’s actually

through your nose it’s actually

through your nose it’s actually diffusing through the pores and your

diffusing through the pores and your

diffusing through the pores and your skin through your wetsuit or even if

skin through your wetsuit or even if

skin through your wetsuit or even if you’re wearing a dry suit you know

you’re wearing a dry suit you know

you’re wearing a dry suit you know you’re staying in it too long once you

you’re staying in it too long once you

you’re staying in it too long once you stop smelling it because it’s actually

stop smelling it because it’s actually

stop smelling it because it’s actually dead and your olfactory nerves and your

dead and your olfactory nerves and your

dead and your olfactory nerves and your sometimes the metal starts to change

sometimes the metal starts to change

sometimes the metal starts to change color so we try to move quickly through

color so we try to move quickly through

color so we try to move quickly through it but sometimes that’s where we do

it but sometimes that’s where we do

it but sometimes that’s where we do quite a bit of our sampling and what

quite a bit of our sampling and what

quite a bit of our sampling and what happens physiologically is you have the

happens physiologically is you have the

happens physiologically is you have the hydrogen sulfide stops the

hydrogen sulfide stops the

hydrogen sulfide stops the from binding to the red blood cells and

from binding to the red blood cells and

from binding to the red blood cells and impedes oxygen update you might start to

impedes oxygen update you might start to

impedes oxygen update you might start to get tingly lips or whatnot we talked a

get tingly lips or whatnot we talked a

get tingly lips or whatnot we talked a lot of physiologist no clear answers on

lot of physiologist no clear answers on

lot of physiologist no clear answers on what long-term exposure made to we did

what long-term exposure made to we did

what long-term exposure made to we did quite a few we did about 150 dives just

quite a few we did about 150 dives just

quite a few we did about 150 dives just in this one hole there’s some evidence

in this one hole there’s some evidence

in this one hole there’s some evidence that’s that’s actually what I look like

that’s that’s actually what I look like

that’s that’s actually what I look like before the expedition and there was some

before the expedition and there was some

before the expedition and there was some some slight physiological changes

some slight physiological changes

some slight physiological changes afterwards but we’ve you know we’ve

afterwards but we’ve you know we’ve

afterwards but we’ve you know we’ve dealt with them

dealt with them

dealt with them subsequent right so how am i doing maybe

subsequent right so how am i doing maybe

subsequent right so how am i doing maybe I should get off the stage but let me

I should get off the stage but let me

I should get off the stage but let me just go on to one of the other quickly

just go on to one of the other quickly

just go on to one of the other quickly one of the other scientific questions at

one of the other scientific questions at

one of the other scientific questions at the hardly expedition was looking at the

the hardly expedition was looking at the

the hardly expedition was looking at the natural history of the Caribbean as it

natural history of the Caribbean as it

natural history of the Caribbean as it ends up this anoxic saltwater no oxygen

ends up this anoxic saltwater no oxygen

ends up this anoxic saltwater no oxygen saltwater is a great place to preserve

saltwater is a great place to preserve

saltwater is a great place to preserve fossils including collagen where you can

fossils including collagen where you can

fossils including collagen where you can get DNA out of so we did a lot of work

get DNA out of so we did a lot of work

get DNA out of so we did a lot of work excavating here’s just some examples

excavating here’s just some examples

excavating here’s just some examples that’s in 90 feet of water it’s probably

that’s in 90 feet of water it’s probably

that’s in 90 feet of water it’s probably about a thirteen thousand year old owl

about a thirteen thousand year old owl

about a thirteen thousand year old owl roost so an owl would go out of the cave

roost so an owl would go out of the cave

roost so an owl would go out of the cave go hunting come back whatever it ate

go hunting come back whatever it ate

go hunting come back whatever it ate lizards birds small mammals it would

lizards birds small mammals it would

lizards birds small mammals it would digest the food but it actually

digest the food but it actually

digest the food but it actually regurgitate up there the bones so that

regurgitate up there the bones so that

regurgitate up there the bones so that whole little meter square excavation pit

whole little meter square excavation pit

whole little meter square excavation pit we found about twenty-six new species

we found about twenty-six new species

we found about twenty-six new species either unknown to science didn’t know

either unknown to science didn’t know

either unknown to science didn’t know they lived in that part of the world or

they lived in that part of the world or

they lived in that part of the world or we learned that they had somehow gone

we learned that they had somehow gone

we learned that they had somehow gone extinct lots of land tortoises species

extinct lots of land tortoises species

extinct lots of land tortoises species we didn’t know existed small mammals

we didn’t know existed small mammals

we didn’t know existed small mammals birds of prey crocodiles that we didn’t

birds of prey crocodiles that we didn’t

birds of prey crocodiles that we didn’t know existed in this area they’re

know existed in this area they’re

know existed in this area they’re related to the highly endangered Cuban

related to the highly endangered Cuban

related to the highly endangered Cuban crocodile found in just one small

crocodile found in just one small

crocodile found in just one small wetland area Lucayan Indian burial

wetland area Lucayan Indian burial

wetland area Lucayan Indian burial grounds there’s no surviving descendants

grounds there’s no surviving descendants

grounds there’s no surviving descendants of the Lucayan Indians so there’s a lot

of the Lucayan Indians so there’s a lot

of the Lucayan Indians so there’s a lot of mystery there’s not a good record on

of mystery there’s not a good record on

of mystery there’s not a good record on what happened with human migration when

what happened with human migration when

what happened with human migration when Paleo Indians came out of the Orinoco

Paleo Indians came out of the Orinoco

Paleo Indians came out of the Orinoco Basin in Venezuela

Basin in Venezuela

Basin in Venezuela there’s our expedition really yielded

there’s our expedition really yielded

there’s our expedition really yielded some interesting answers but many more

some interesting answers but many more

some interesting answers but many more questions about why certain species

questions about why certain species

questions about why certain species disappeared and why there was or wasn’t

disappeared and why there was or wasn’t

disappeared and why there was or wasn’t overlap between human and non-human

overlap between human and non-human

overlap between human and non-human species the last can major question one

species the last can major question one

species the last can major question one that we’re really following up

that we’re really following up

that we’re really following up Leon is trying to learn more about the

Leon is trying to learn more about the

Leon is trying to learn more about the sensitivity of our climate system so as

sensitivity of our climate system so as

sensitivity of our climate system so as it turns out these stalagmites and

it turns out these stalagmites and

it turns out these stalagmites and stalactites types are the ones that come

stalactites types are the ones that come

stalactites types are the ones that come from the top

from the top

from the top mites come from the bottom they only

mites come from the bottom they only

mites come from the bottom they only grow in the cave as dry as water

grow in the cave as dry as water

grow in the cave as dry as water percolates through the limestone it

percolates through the limestone it

percolates through the limestone it drips down on the floor evaporates and

drips down on the floor evaporates and

drips down on the floor evaporates and slowly you start to get these cave

slowly you start to get these cave

slowly you start to get these cave formations accreting well it ends up

formations accreting well it ends up

formations accreting well it ends up there great recorders just like ice

there great recorders just like ice

there great recorders just like ice cores or tree rings great recorders of

cores or tree rings great recorders of

cores or tree rings great recorders of the environmental history at the time

the environmental history at the time

the environmental history at the time the temperature and precipitation and

the temperature and precipitation and

the temperature and precipitation and remember they only grow when the cave is

remember they only grow when the cave is

remember they only grow when the cave is dry so they’re also very precise

dry so they’re also very precise

dry so they’re also very precise recorders of sea-level rise and fall but

recorders of sea-level rise and fall but

recorders of sea-level rise and fall but in addition to really solidifying some

in addition to really solidifying some

in addition to really solidifying some of the scientific ideas about abrupt

of the scientific ideas about abrupt

of the scientific ideas about abrupt climate change we had some other

climate change we had some other

climate change we had some other interesting findings that’s a hair and

interesting findings that’s a hair and

interesting findings that’s a hair and dust there’s no natural source of the

dust there’s no natural source of the

dust there’s no natural source of the dust in the Bahamas and it’s come over

dust in the Bahamas and it’s come over

dust in the Bahamas and it’s come over and it’s come over in such massive

and it’s come over in such massive

and it’s come over in such massive quantities that it really led to

quantities that it really led to

quantities that it really led to questions of how to get here why in such

questions of how to get here why in such

questions of how to get here why in such quantities why in certain areas of the

quantities why in certain areas of the

quantities why in certain areas of the cave and as it turns out it ends up that

cave and as it turns out it ends up that

cave and as it turns out it ends up that this dust is trapped in the speleothems

this dust is trapped in the speleothems

this dust is trapped in the speleothems and is exactly in line with these abrupt

and is exactly in line with these abrupt

and is exactly in line with these abrupt cooling and warming periods what are

cooling and warming periods what are

cooling and warming periods what are called Henryk events and we have some

called Henryk events and we have some

called Henryk events and we have some very compelling evidence that dust is a

very compelling evidence that dust is a

very compelling evidence that dust is a driver as opposed to a reaction to

driver as opposed to a reaction to

driver as opposed to a reaction to climate changes and that has big

climate changes and that has big

climate changes and that has big implications not just for the

implications not just for the

implications not just for the sensitivity of the climate as we add

sensitivity of the climate as we add

sensitivity of the climate as we add greenhouse gases but also has

greenhouse gases but also has

greenhouse gases but also has implications for land use and land

implications for land use and land

implications for land use and land change as well this is actually from the

change as well this is actually from the

change as well this is actually from the USGS all the water in the world if you

USGS all the water in the world if you

USGS all the water in the world if you put it together including the oceans is

put it together including the oceans is

put it together including the oceans is that big blue marble forget the tiny one

that big blue marble forget the tiny one

that big blue marble forget the tiny one the one little bit bigger that’s visible

the one little bit bigger that’s visible

the one little bit bigger that’s visible that’s all our groundwater that’s if you

that’s all our groundwater that’s if you

that’s all our groundwater that’s if you take away what’s locked up in ice

take away what’s locked up in ice

take away what’s locked up in ice 95% of world’s freshwater is beneath our

95% of world’s freshwater is beneath our

95% of world’s freshwater is beneath our feet in underground reservoirs and it

feet in underground reservoirs and it

feet in underground reservoirs and it all came here from space and the

all came here from space and the

all came here from space and the formation of the earth and it’s we’re

formation of the earth and it’s we’re

formation of the earth and it’s we’re not creating it or destroying it we’re

not creating it or destroying it we’re

not creating it or destroying it we’re just moving around and changing its

just moving around and changing its

just moving around and changing its nature and I think it’s something that

nature and I think it’s something that

nature and I think it’s something that it’s hard to get perspective on and I

it’s hard to get perspective on and I

it’s hard to get perspective on and I think you’ll get it in a different way

think you’ll get it in a different way

think you’ll get it in a different way from the finite nature of what we have

from the finite nature of what we have

from the finite nature of what we have on earth by looking at

on earth by looking at

on earth by looking at what Adam has to say about the infinity

what Adam has to say about the infinity

what Adam has to say about the infinity of space so I think it’s Adams up next

of space so I think it’s Adams up next

of space so I think it’s Adams up next and thank you very much

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