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today I’d like to invite you in a

today I’d like to invite you in a journey to show you not judgmentally but

journey to show you not judgmentally but

journey to show you not judgmentally but why we shouldn’t keep wild animals from

why we shouldn’t keep wild animals from

why we shouldn’t keep wild animals from wild species as pets wildlife

wild species as pets wildlife

wild species as pets wildlife trafficking globally encompasses many

trafficking globally encompasses many

trafficking globally encompasses many many ways of exploiting my life as it

many ways of exploiting my life as it

many ways of exploiting my life as it was very well shown here from the

was very well shown here from the

was very well shown here from the production of souvenirs to decoration

production of souvenirs to decoration

production of souvenirs to decoration and food items like religious charms

and food items like religious charms

and food items like religious charms fashion accessories substances you

fashion accessories substances you

fashion accessories substances you supplied the drug industry or cosmetic

supplied the drug industry or cosmetic

supplied the drug industry or cosmetic industry rare animals should supply the

industry rare animals should supply the

industry rare animals should supply the International pet trade for collectors

International pet trade for collectors

International pet trade for collectors in zoos and they legal wild pet trade

in zoos and they legal wild pet trade

in zoos and they legal wild pet trade Brazilians have a strong connection to

Brazilians have a strong connection to

Brazilians have a strong connection to nature and as such they love to have

nature and as such they love to have

nature and as such they love to have wild animals with them in their houses

wild animals with them in their houses

wild animals with them in their houses as an accepted cultural trait so

as an accepted cultural trait so

as an accepted cultural trait so throughout my country from urban centers

throughout my country from urban centers

throughout my country from urban centers to the most remote rural areas the sight

to the most remote rural areas the sight

to the most remote rural areas the sight the bucolic sight of a house displaying

the bucolic sight of a house displaying

the bucolic sight of a house displaying cages without wild animals is very

cages without wild animals is very

cages without wild animals is very common and house owners display their

common and house owners display their

common and house owners display their cages with pride as they show their love

cages with pride as they show their love

cages with pride as they show their love and admiration for nature and the

and admiration for nature and the

and admiration for nature and the animals they usually buy these animals

animals they usually buy these animals

animals they usually buy these animals from normal Street markets and they have

from normal Street markets and they have

from normal Street markets and they have no idea about the relationship with

no idea about the relationship with

no idea about the relationship with buying their dear animals with the

buying their dear animals with the

buying their dear animals with the poaching and wildlife trafficking and

poaching and wildlife trafficking and

poaching and wildlife trafficking and that’s a good Brazilian myself I too

that’s a good Brazilian myself I too

that’s a good Brazilian myself I too have a strong connection to nature and

have a strong connection to nature and

have a strong connection to nature and since my early years I learned from my

since my early years I learned from my

since my early years I learned from my parents a deep love respect and

parents a deep love respect and

parents a deep love respect and admiration for all living things

admiration for all living things

admiration for all living things and I still miss my pet Han today I

and I still miss my pet Han today I

and I still miss my pet Han today I began learning about wildlife

began learning about wildlife

began learning about wildlife trafficking in Brazil when I met

trafficking in Brazil when I met

trafficking in Brazil when I met Organization SOS fauna and their work I

Organization SOS fauna and their work I

Organization SOS fauna and their work I could not get over of the ridiculous

could not get over of the ridiculous

could not get over of the ridiculous volume of animals being illegally

volume of animals being illegally

volume of animals being illegally collected transported sewed and kept

collected transported sewed and kept

collected transported sewed and kept just so that some people could have

just so that some people could have

just so that some people could have their wild pets

their wild pets

their wild pets and as a good example as you see here

and as a good example as you see here

and as a good example as you see here this cargo it was in just one truck and

this cargo it was in just one truck and

this cargo it was in just one truck and it was carrying more than four thousand

it was carrying more than four thousand

it was carrying more than four thousand poached animals to supply the pet trade

poached animals to supply the pet trade

poached animals to supply the pet trade so I had to do something I just could

so I had to do something I just could

so I had to do something I just could not go home and put my head to rest in

not go home and put my head to rest in

not go home and put my head to rest in the pillow at night and I started

the pillow at night and I started

the pillow at night and I started volunteering for the organization so we

volunteering for the organization so we

volunteering for the organization so we don’t have one estimate for from the

don’t have one estimate for from the

don’t have one estimate for from the government and numbers are very hard to

government and numbers are very hard to

government and numbers are very hard to come by

come by

come by but let’s try to choose to make the

but let’s try to choose to make the

but let’s try to choose to make the picture a little bit clearer from 2002

picture a little bit clearer from 2002

picture a little bit clearer from 2002 to 2009 federal triage facilities

to 2009 federal triage facilities

to 2009 federal triage facilities received from collections deliveries and

received from collections deliveries and

received from collections deliveries and seizures more than three hundred and

seizures more than three hundred and

seizures more than three hundred and seven thousand animals all together with

seven thousand animals all together with

seven thousand animals all together with a mean of 38,000 per year however these

a mean of 38,000 per year however these

a mean of 38,000 per year however these numbers may be even bigger as just the

numbers may be even bigger as just the

numbers may be even bigger as just the state of Sao Paulo alone in 2006 seized

state of Sao Paulo alone in 2006 seized

state of Sao Paulo alone in 2006 seized more than 3000 animals also trying to

more than 3000 animals also trying to

more than 3000 animals also trying to use scientific methodology to try to

use scientific methodology to try to

use scientific methodology to try to estimate these numbers two researchers

estimate these numbers two researchers

estimate these numbers two researchers from Brazil analyzed eighth Street

from Brazil analyzed eighth Street

from Brazil analyzed eighth Street markets and they concluded that these

markets and they concluded that these

markets and they concluded that these markets alone could be legally trading

markets alone could be legally trading

markets alone could be legally trading per year more than 50,000 poached birds

per year more than 50,000 poached birds

per year more than 50,000 poached birds valued at six hundred and thirty

valued at six hundred and thirty

valued at six hundred and thirty thousand dollars per year if we remember

thousand dollars per year if we remember

thousand dollars per year if we remember that Brazil has over five thousand

that Brazil has over five thousand

that Brazil has over five thousand cities and each one has at least one of

cities and each one has at least one of

cities and each one has at least one of those markets then we start to be able

those markets then we start to be able

those markets then we start to be able to grasp about the volume we are talking

to grasp about the volume we are talking

to grasp about the volume we are talking about

about

about so withdrawing numerous animals from a

so withdrawing numerous animals from a

so withdrawing numerous animals from a couple of species from nature in a

couple of species from nature in a

couple of species from nature in a regular basis has many consequences and

regular basis has many consequences and

regular basis has many consequences and the most obvious is the lack of animal

the most obvious is the lack of animal

the most obvious is the lack of animal welfare these creatures endure so much

welfare these creatures endure so much

welfare these creatures endure so much suffering through violent collection

suffering through violent collection

suffering through violent collection transportation methods and then enjoy a

transportation methods and then enjoy a

transportation methods and then enjoy a lifetime in captivity without social

lifetime in captivity without social

lifetime in captivity without social interaction or exercise and most times

interaction or exercise and most times

interaction or exercise and most times in places which are humid hot and

in places which are humid hot and

in places which are humid hot and without adequate food sources but there

without adequate food sources but there

without adequate food sources but there are more profound consequences and I’m

are more profound consequences and I’m

are more profound consequences and I’m risking a little bit of an

risking a little bit of an

risking a little bit of an oversimplification here but let’s try to

oversimplification here but let’s try to

oversimplification here but let’s try to understand what this have what happens

understand what this have what happens

understand what this have what happens to the environment when we take animals

to the environment when we take animals

to the environment when we take animals and species that have unique ecological

and species that have unique ecological

and species that have unique ecological roles

roles

roles types of plants growing in the ecosystem

types of plants growing in the ecosystem

types of plants growing in the ecosystem will be altered if seed predation rates

will be altered if seed predation rates

will be altered if seed predation rates change

change

change also if trees depend on any specific

also if trees depend on any specific

also if trees depend on any specific species to disperse their seeds they

species to disperse their seeds they

species to disperse their seeds they will have reduced dispersal capacity and

will have reduced dispersal capacity and

will have reduced dispersal capacity and also the echo system will have decreased

also the echo system will have decreased

also the echo system will have decreased regeneration ability if predators are

regeneration ability if predators are

regeneration ability if predators are missing prey species may experience

missing prey species may experience

missing prey species may experience explosion in populations which can even

explosion in populations which can even

explosion in populations which can even become pasture agriculture on the other

become pasture agriculture on the other

become pasture agriculture on the other hand when prey species are missing

hand when prey species are missing

hand when prey species are missing predators may experience decrease in

predators may experience decrease in

predators may experience decrease in their population sizes which can affect

their population sizes which can affect

their population sizes which can affect all connected species lastly when less

all connected species lastly when less

all connected species lastly when less individuals are left to reproduce this

individuals are left to reproduce this

individuals are left to reproduce this can lead to more genetically similar

can lead to more genetically similar

can lead to more genetically similar populations which in extreme cases can

populations which in extreme cases can

populations which in extreme cases can even contribute to the populations are

even contribute to the populations are

even contribute to the populations are the species extinction some people some

the species extinction some people some

the species extinction some people some among them some researchers who I

among them some researchers who I

among them some researchers who I respect very much have proposed that we

respect very much have proposed that we

respect very much have proposed that we do commercial captive breeding of wild

do commercial captive breeding of wild

do commercial captive breeding of wild species in order to supply demand

species in order to supply demand

species in order to supply demand without exploit nature this obviously

without exploit nature this obviously

without exploit nature this obviously has many advantages as yes in theory it

has many advantages as yes in theory it

has many advantages as yes in theory it could supply demand for wild animals as

could supply demand for wild animals as

could supply demand for wild animals as pets we could learn and acquire precious

pets we could learn and acquire precious

pets we could learn and acquire precious knowledge on how to maintain this

knowledge on how to maintain this

knowledge on how to maintain this species in captivity which could be used

species in captivity which could be used

species in captivity which could be used in future conservation efforts and we

in future conservation efforts and we

in future conservation efforts and we could create an industry with lots of

could create an industry with lots of

could create an industry with lots of jobs however there are disadvantages

jobs however there are disadvantages

jobs however there are disadvantages keeping wild animals in captivity is per

keeping wild animals in captivity is per

keeping wild animals in captivity is per se a source of suffering also being a

se a source of suffering also being a

se a source of suffering also being a relevant business it could also bring

relevant business it could also bring

relevant business it could also bring about many political interests and this

about many political interests and this

about many political interests and this would probably shaped our ultimate goal

would probably shaped our ultimate goal

would probably shaped our ultimate goal of conserving wild species lastly when

of conserving wild species lastly when

of conserving wild species lastly when we do captive breeding of wild animals

we do captive breeding of wild animals

we do captive breeding of wild animals with commercial purposes it becomes very

with commercial purposes it becomes very

with commercial purposes it becomes very difficult to promote effective control

difficult to promote effective control

difficult to promote effective control and law enforcement of this activity

and law enforcement of this activity

and law enforcement of this activity making it very easy and profitable to

making it very easy and profitable to

making it very easy and profitable to make poached animals look like they’re

make poached animals look like they’re

make poached animals look like they’re bred in captivity what we call bird

bred in captivity what we call bird

bred in captivity what we call bird laundering so there is an even worse

laundering so there is an even worse

laundering so there is an even worse problem

problem

problem honest breeders invest great deals of

honest breeders invest great deals of

honest breeders invest great deals of time money and resources to obtain a

time money and resources to obtain a

time money and resources to obtain a limited number of animals for example a

limited number of animals for example a

limited number of animals for example a captive bred blue fronted Amazon can

captive bred blue fronted Amazon can

captive bred blue fronted Amazon can cost around one thousand US dollars in

cost around one thousand US dollars in

cost around one thousand US dollars in Brazil

Brazil

Brazil whereas a poached animal from nature

whereas a poached animal from nature

whereas a poached animal from nature will cost $40 or less so there are way

will cost $40 or less so there are way

will cost $40 or less so there are way fewer people willing to pay so much more

fewer people willing to pay so much more

fewer people willing to pay so much more and what happens is that the bigger

and what happens is that the bigger

and what happens is that the bigger consumer market will not buy the most

consumer market will not buy the most

consumer market will not buy the most expensive animal so these animals with

expensive animal so these animals with

expensive animal so these animals with very different origins and very

very different origins and very

very different origins and very different prices will supply very

different prices will supply very

different prices will supply very different consumer markets so in my

different consumer markets so in my

different consumer markets so in my opinion commercial captive breeding of

opinion commercial captive breeding of

opinion commercial captive breeding of wild species will not have not the

wild species will not have not the

wild species will not have not the ability to supply the big demand and

ability to supply the big demand and

ability to supply the big demand and another problem and let me start with

another problem and let me start with

another problem and let me start with the solutions when animals which were

the solutions when animals which were

the solutions when animals which were illegally traded or kept are seized they

illegally traded or kept are seized they

illegally traded or kept are seized they have to go through very complicated

have to go through very complicated

have to go through very complicated rehabilitation process and absolutely

rehabilitation process and absolutely

rehabilitation process and absolutely cannot be released anywhere or we will

cannot be released anywhere or we will

cannot be released anywhere or we will cause more bad impacts than good ones we

cause more bad impacts than good ones we

cause more bad impacts than good ones we have to make sure they are healthy we

have to make sure they are healthy we

have to make sure they are healthy we have to make sure they exhibit wild

have to make sure they exhibit wild

have to make sure they exhibit wild behaviors we have to make sure that the

behaviors we have to make sure that the

behaviors we have to make sure that the place where releasing them is safe we

place where releasing them is safe we

place where releasing them is safe we don’t want them to be recollected and

don’t want them to be recollected and

don’t want them to be recollected and back in the black market but it has to

back in the black market but it has to

back in the black market but it has to be able to maintain the new individuals

be able to maintain the new individuals

be able to maintain the new individuals as well as the natural populations they

as well as the natural populations they

as well as the natural populations they have to be released in the same biome

have to be released in the same biome

have to be released in the same biome they are collected in for adaptive

they are collected in for adaptive

they are collected in for adaptive reasons and depending on the existence

reasons and depending on the existence

reasons and depending on the existence of different genetic populations within

of different genetic populations within

of different genetic populations within each species they must be released to as

each species they must be released to as

each species they must be released to as close as possible to their true

close as possible to their true

close as possible to their true population of origin or we can cause a

population of origin or we can cause a

population of origin or we can cause a severe decrease in the offsprings

severe decrease in the offsprings

severe decrease in the offsprings adaptive potential following mating with

adaptive potential following mating with

adaptive potential following mating with the local population so I was fortunate

the local population so I was fortunate

the local population so I was fortunate enough to find mentors that fully

enough to find mentors that fully

enough to find mentors that fully supported my ideas after so many knows

supported my ideas after so many knows

supported my ideas after so many knows and you were crazy we decided to I just

and you were crazy we decided to I just

and you were crazy we decided to I just had to do more and we decided that

had to do more and we decided that

had to do more and we decided that together we would develop my PhD

together we would develop my PhD

together we would develop my PhD research in population genetics of some

research in population genetics of some

research in population genetics of some wild birds that are severely exploited

wild birds that are severely exploited

wild birds that are severely exploited in Brazil for the world pet trade so

in Brazil for the world pet trade so

in Brazil for the world pet trade so thank you guys I’ll just show you a

thank you guys I’ll just show you a

thank you guys I’ll just show you a couple of my results among all the piles

couple of my results among all the piles

couple of my results among all the piles of data that we generated so meet the

of data that we generated so meet the

of data that we generated so meet the red card Cardinal

they are very appreciated for their

they are very appreciated for their beauty and their songs so I decided to

beauty and their songs so I decided to

beauty and their songs so I decided to study the species to see if we could

study the species to see if we could

study the species to see if we could find different genetic populations

find different genetic populations

find different genetic populations within each one and see the level of

within each one and see the level of

within each one and see the level of threat or if we could pinpoint the

threat or if we could pinpoint the

threat or if we could pinpoint the origin of animal see with a known origin

origin of animal see with a known origin

origin of animal see with a known origin ironically enough we found a different

ironically enough we found a different

ironically enough we found a different populations in the species we did not

populations in the species we did not

populations in the species we did not expect to find but we did not find them

expect to find but we did not find them

expect to find but we did not find them in these species we expect to find them

in these species we expect to find them

in these species we expect to find them so it changed a little bit the way we

so it changed a little bit the way we

so it changed a little bit the way we solve these species

this has complicated implications but

this has complicated implications but broadly it means that releasing the

broadly it means that releasing the

broadly it means that releasing the south patters back in the wild should be

south patters back in the wild should be

south patters back in the wild should be respirable problematic concerning the

respirable problematic concerning the

respirable problematic concerning the genetics criterion I just mentioned then

genetics criterion I just mentioned then

genetics criterion I just mentioned then releasing the red card Cardinals here

releasing the red card Cardinals here

releasing the red card Cardinals here the three populations of Cardinals that

the three populations of Cardinals that

the three populations of Cardinals that we were able to describe and we would

we were able to describe and we would

we were able to describe and we would like to know if we could infer the most

like to know if we could infer the most

like to know if we could infer the most likely origin of some animals seized in

likely origin of some animals seized in

likely origin of some animals seized in some problem this test still need to be

some problem this test still need to be

some problem this test still need to be refined but they indicate that these

refined but they indicate that these

refined but they indicate that these animals are probably most likely from a

animals are probably most likely from a

animals are probably most likely from a population the Northeast that is known

population the Northeast that is known

population the Northeast that is known to be a collection hotspot so data like

to be a collection hotspot so data like

to be a collection hotspot so data like this alone will not provide a final

this alone will not provide a final

this alone will not provide a final answer but along with other sources of

answer but along with other sources of

answer but along with other sources of information may provide a good

information may provide a good

information may provide a good indication and a good help for the

indication and a good help for the

indication and a good help for the decision making process not only for

decision making process not only for

decision making process not only for privation prevention efforts but for

privation prevention efforts but for

privation prevention efforts but for releasing in a technique technically

releasing in a technique technically

releasing in a technique technically responsible way but towards the end of

responsible way but towards the end of

responsible way but towards the end of my PhD I wanted to do everything but

my PhD I wanted to do everything but

my PhD I wanted to do everything but writing the thesis too much the despair

writing the thesis too much the despair

writing the thesis too much the despair of my advisors so I was still not happy

of my advisors so I was still not happy

of my advisors so I was still not happy because I felt my work was really

because I felt my work was really

because I felt my work was really localized and still small so I went on

localized and still small so I went on

localized and still small so I went on and along with Freeland Foundation from

and along with Freeland Foundation from

and along with Freeland Foundation from Southeast Asia

Southeast Asia

Southeast Asia I started Freeland Brasil trying to

I started Freeland Brasil trying to

I started Freeland Brasil trying to organize the work I was doing and

organize the work I was doing and

organize the work I was doing and broaden the impact so we work now with

broaden the impact so we work now with

broaden the impact so we work now with three pillars trying to accomplish a

three pillars trying to accomplish a

three pillars trying to accomplish a comprehensive set of actions against

comprehensive set of actions against

comprehensive set of actions against wildlife trafficking in Brazil so the

wildlife trafficking in Brazil so the

wildlife trafficking in Brazil so the first one education and awareness ow

first one education and awareness ow

first one education and awareness ow amazing the brick of our civilization

amazing the brick of our civilization

amazing the brick of our civilization but a little bit too long term for us

but a little bit too long term for us

but a little bit too long term for us but in this component among other

but in this component among other

but in this component among other projects we are Co producing a feature

projects we are Co producing a feature

projects we are Co producing a feature film documentary on wild animal

film documentary on wild animal

film documentary on wild animal trafficking in Brazil Kiki Nemo –

trafficking in Brazil Kiki Nemo –

trafficking in Brazil Kiki Nemo – masseur Tufano Trasolini allegorical

masseur Tufano Trasolini allegorical

masseur Tufano Trasolini allegorical stonagal

les pasado por todas aquellas Eva’s

les pasado por todas aquellas Eva’s Portola kita prisons en cap rezones low

Portola kita prisons en cap rezones low

Portola kita prisons en cap rezones low as possible

as possible

as possible SB twice Christmas are you Victor

so this should launch a beginning of

so this should launch a beginning of next year

next year

next year also that was not enough yet so off we

also that was not enough yet so off we

also that was not enough yet so off we went to launch research a mitigation of

went to launch research a mitigation of

went to launch research a mitigation of impact where a student is analyzing the

impact where a student is analyzing the

impact where a student is analyzing the mitochondrial DNA of the cell cottage to

mitochondrial DNA of the cell cottage to

mitochondrial DNA of the cell cottage to see if my results can be corroborated

see if my results can be corroborated

see if my results can be corroborated and I hope to start my post PhD next

and I hope to start my post PhD next

and I hope to start my post PhD next semester developing paternity tests

semester developing paternity tests

semester developing paternity tests which will be able to be used in

which will be able to be used in

which will be able to be used in commercial bird breeders to help law

commercial bird breeders to help law

commercial bird breeders to help law enforcement detect poached animals we

enforcement detect poached animals we

enforcement detect poached animals we also collaborate in responsible releases

also collaborate in responsible releases

also collaborate in responsible releases such as this done by the organization as

such as this done by the organization as

such as this done by the organization as well as found in which ad blue frontier

well as found in which ad blue frontier

well as found in which ad blue frontier Amazon’s were returned to nature

Amazon’s were returned to nature

Amazon’s were returned to nature following most of all those criteria I

following most of all those criteria I

following most of all those criteria I just showed you this was only a couple

just showed you this was only a couple

just showed you this was only a couple of years ago

that’s me almost crying behind so if

that’s me almost crying behind so if you’re asking yourself how well that

you’re asking yourself how well that

you’re asking yourself how well that went

went

went how about this and this but that was not

how about this and this but that was not

how about this and this but that was not enough see not enough so off we went

enough see not enough so off we went

enough see not enough so off we went to capacity enhancement and articulation

to capacity enhancement and articulation

to capacity enhancement and articulation where we work with agents involved in

where we work with agents involved in

where we work with agents involved in combating wildlife trafficking and

combating wildlife trafficking and

combating wildlife trafficking and provide training courses and workshops

provide training courses and workshops

provide training courses and workshops the next ones all aligned is one with

the next ones all aligned is one with

the next ones all aligned is one with the prosecutor’s office from San Paolo

the prosecutor’s office from San Paolo

the prosecutor’s office from San Paolo where they will launch a national

where they will launch a national

where they will launch a national prosecutors Task Force against wildlife

prosecutors Task Force against wildlife

prosecutors Task Force against wildlife trafficking in Brazil and we will bring

trafficking in Brazil and we will bring

trafficking in Brazil and we will bring South American prosecutors to develop

South American prosecutors to develop

South American prosecutors to develop international agreements on how we can

international agreements on how we can

international agreements on how we can better cooperate against wildlife

better cooperate against wildlife

better cooperate against wildlife trafficking regionally and how we can

trafficking regionally and how we can

trafficking regionally and how we can join the global efforts we also have an

join the global efforts we also have an

join the global efforts we also have an aligned workshop with the Brazilian

aligned workshop with the Brazilian

aligned workshop with the Brazilian Federal Police on wildlife forensics and

Federal Police on wildlife forensics and

Federal Police on wildlife forensics and best practices lastly we are producing

best practices lastly we are producing

best practices lastly we are producing with SOS fauna post-seizure procedures

with SOS fauna post-seizure procedures

with SOS fauna post-seizure procedures guides on how to radically decrease the

guides on how to radically decrease the

guides on how to radically decrease the death rate both after the animals are

death rate both after the animals are

death rate both after the animals are seized by law enforcement by taking very

seized by law enforcement by taking very

seized by law enforcement by taking very simple and cheap measures just like this

simple and cheap measures just like this

simple and cheap measures just like this animal likes cold this animal hates heat

animal likes cold this animal hates heat

animal likes cold this animal hates heat and etc but that’s not enough so my next

and etc but that’s not enough so my next

and etc but that’s not enough so my next goal is to get involved with efforts to

goal is to get involved with efforts to

goal is to get involved with efforts to change the Brazilian environmental

change the Brazilian environmental

change the Brazilian environmental legislation and try to encompass

legislation and try to encompass

legislation and try to encompass wildlife trafficking as a full crime

wildlife trafficking as a full crime

wildlife trafficking as a full crime because believe it or not it doesn’t so

because believe it or not it doesn’t so

because believe it or not it doesn’t so if your country legislation is anything

if your country legislation is anything

if your country legislation is anything like ours tell your lawmakers you want

like ours tell your lawmakers you want

like ours tell your lawmakers you want to change it and encompass wildlife

to change it and encompass wildlife

to change it and encompass wildlife trafficking as a full crime as it is a

trafficking as a full crime as it is a

trafficking as a full crime as it is a crime against humanity these animals are

crime against humanity these animals are

crime against humanity these animals are being withdrawn from the environment in

being withdrawn from the environment in

being withdrawn from the environment in a regular basis to be people’s pets

a regular basis to be people’s pets

a regular basis to be people’s pets should we maintain the so called

should we maintain the so called

should we maintain the so called cultural habit just because we’re used

cultural habit just because we’re used

cultural habit just because we’re used to it is this

to it is this

to it is this if commercial captive breeding of wild

if commercial captive breeding of wild

if commercial captive breeding of wild animals makes law enforcement and

animals makes law enforcement and

animals makes law enforcement and protecting our biodiversity more

protecting our biodiversity more

protecting our biodiversity more difficult should we do this just because

difficult should we do this just because

difficult should we do this just because so just so that some people can fulfill

so just so that some people can fulfill

so just so that some people can fulfill their desire of owning a wild animal

their desire of owning a wild animal

their desire of owning a wild animal if we fail consequences may be Savior

if we fail consequences may be Savior

if we fail consequences may be Savior and even not fixable

and even not fixable

and even not fixable cultures are dynamic and can and must

cultures are dynamic and can and must

cultures are dynamic and can and must evolve so I’d say no these animals and

evolve so I’d say no these animals and

evolve so I’d say no these animals and all endless forms most beautiful and

all endless forms most beautiful and

all endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful should be out in a

most wonderful should be out in a

most wonderful should be out in a healthy and dynamic environment

healthy and dynamic environment

healthy and dynamic environment fulfilling their ecological roles and

fulfilling their ecological roles and

fulfilling their ecological roles and their evolutionary roles as species that

their evolutionary roles as species that

their evolutionary roles as species that evolved over time thank

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