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Jodi Cobb: Human Bondage | Nat Geo Live


I still believe in the power of the

I still believe in the power of the photograph to communicate and to make

photograph to communicate and to make

photograph to communicate and to make you think and care

you think and care

you think and care [Music]

[Music]

[Music] the most important story that I’ve done

the most important story that I’ve done

the most important story that I’ve done was on 21st century slavery

nothing in my life had prepared me for

nothing in my life had prepared me for what I was going to be seen I became a

what I was going to be seen I became a

what I was going to be seen I became a photographer because I wanted to change

photographer because I wanted to change

photographer because I wanted to change the world it’s just been a little bit

the world it’s just been a little bit

the world it’s just been a little bit harder than I thought it was going to be

harder than I thought it was going to be

harder than I thought it was going to be I believe that photography played a big

I believe that photography played a big

I believe that photography played a big role in ending the war in Vietnam and I

role in ending the war in Vietnam and I

role in ending the war in Vietnam and I really had big plans but now my

really had big plans but now my

really had big plans but now my ambitions are a lot more realistic to

ambitions are a lot more realistic to

ambitions are a lot more realistic to just try to do my bit to help cultures

just try to do my bit to help cultures

just try to do my bit to help cultures understand each other and to try to

understand each other and to try to

understand each other and to try to eliminate or illuminate worlds that most

eliminate or illuminate worlds that most

eliminate or illuminate worlds that most people will never see I’m a journalist

people will never see I’m a journalist

people will never see I’m a journalist and a storyteller at heart the word

and a storyteller at heart the word

and a storyteller at heart the word storytellers become such a cliche but I

storytellers become such a cliche but I

storytellers become such a cliche but I can’t think of a better way to describe

can’t think of a better way to describe

can’t think of a better way to describe what it is that I do from the dawn of

what it is that I do from the dawn of

what it is that I do from the dawn of human history people have been sitting

human history people have been sitting

human history people have been sitting around the campfire and telling stories

around the campfire and telling stories

around the campfire and telling stories to try to understand their world my

to try to understand their world my

to try to understand their world my heart has always been in the concept

heart has always been in the concept

heart has always been in the concept stories the stories about ideas rather

stories the stories about ideas rather

stories the stories about ideas rather than places with places you can’t have

than places with places you can’t have

than places with places you can’t have to invent the the narrative or the story

to invent the the narrative or the story

to invent the the narrative or the story but with concepts you have a real story

but with concepts you have a real story

but with concepts you have a real story to tell and I’d love doing them the most

to tell and I’d love doing them the most

to tell and I’d love doing them the most important story that I’ve done was on

important story that I’ve done was on

important story that I’ve done was on 21st century slavery the trafficking of

21st century slavery the trafficking of

21st century slavery the trafficking of human beings around the world it’s a

human beings around the world it’s a

human beings around the world it’s a story about how 27 million people are

story about how 27 million people are

story about how 27 million people are bought and sold against their will held

bought and sold against their will held

bought and sold against their will held captive brutalized and exploited for

captive brutalized and exploited for

captive brutalized and exploited for profit it was a global story on an

profit it was a global story on an

profit it was a global story on an emotional issue that depended on being

emotional issue that depended on being

emotional issue that depended on being behind closed doors and it was

behind closed doors and it was

behind closed doors and it was accumulation of all my interests and all

accumulation of all my interests and all

accumulation of all my interests and all my passion and all my experience and it

my passion and all my experience and it

my passion and all my experience and it was incredibly dangerous but and and I

was incredibly dangerous but and and I

was incredibly dangerous but and and I was actually in tears or in fear the

was actually in tears or in fear the

was actually in tears or in fear the entire time

entire time

entire time a story tens of thousands of children

a story tens of thousands of children

a story tens of thousands of children are trafficked internally in West Africa

are trafficked internally in West Africa

are trafficked internally in West Africa it’s the abuse of a tradition where kids

it’s the abuse of a tradition where kids

it’s the abuse of a tradition where kids from rural villages were sent to the

from rural villages were sent to the

from rural villages were sent to the cities to live with relatives to work as

cities to live with relatives to work as

cities to live with relatives to work as domestics in exchange for an education

domestics in exchange for an education

domestics in exchange for an education and a chance for a better life but it’s

and a chance for a better life but it’s

and a chance for a better life but it’s now become a professional trafficking

now become a professional trafficking

now become a professional trafficking operation and most of the kids have

operation and most of the kids have

operation and most of the kids have become virtual slaves like this little

become virtual slaves like this little

become virtual slaves like this little mechanic this girl selling water for her

mechanic this girl selling water for her

mechanic this girl selling water for her masters if the girls don’t sell enough

masters if the girls don’t sell enough

masters if the girls don’t sell enough they’re beaten so they’re scared to go

they’re beaten so they’re scared to go

they’re beaten so they’re scared to go back if they’ve had a bad day or if

back if they’ve had a bad day or if

back if they’ve had a bad day or if their earnings were stolen which happens

their earnings were stolen which happens

their earnings were stolen which happens often men know this and give them money

often men know this and give them money

often men know this and give them money to sexually exploit them in India

to sexually exploit them in India

to sexually exploit them in India millions of children are held in bondage

millions of children are held in bondage

millions of children are held in bondage working on the carpet looms this new

working on the carpet looms this new

working on the carpet looms this new owner is sleeping off a hangover while

owner is sleeping off a hangover while

owner is sleeping off a hangover while the little kids work in intolerable

the little kids work in intolerable

the little kids work in intolerable conditions they’re sitting in a dirt pit

conditions they’re sitting in a dirt pit

conditions they’re sitting in a dirt pit in virtual darkness for 18 hours a day

in virtual darkness for 18 hours a day

in virtual darkness for 18 hours a day or more it’s in stifling heat there’s no

or more it’s in stifling heat there’s no

or more it’s in stifling heat there’s no ventilation and their spines become

ventilation and their spines become

ventilation and their spines become deformed their eyesight and their

deformed their eyesight and their

deformed their eyesight and their fingers damaged they’re often beaten and

fingers damaged they’re often beaten and

fingers damaged they’re often beaten and deprived of food and it’s the same on

deprived of food and it’s the same on

deprived of food and it’s the same on the silk looms he sits all day and spins

the silk looms he sits all day and spins

the silk looms he sits all day and spins and when he’s finished each spindle he

and when he’s finished each spindle he

and when he’s finished each spindle he bites the end of the thread to cut it he

bites the end of the thread to cut it he

bites the end of the thread to cut it he doesn’t know that is being slowly

doesn’t know that is being slowly

doesn’t know that is being slowly poisoned by the dye and in the glass

poisoned by the dye and in the glass

poisoned by the dye and in the glass making industry the kids are held in

making industry the kids are held in

making industry the kids are held in debt bondage that was actually incurred

debt bondage that was actually incurred

debt bondage that was actually incurred by their parents they work over these

by their parents they work over these

by their parents they work over these gas burners in intense heat and fumes

gas burners in intense heat and fumes

gas burners in intense heat and fumes with no ventilation no protective gear

with no ventilation no protective gear

with no ventilation no protective gear and they’re welding together the ends of

and they’re welding together the ends of

and they’re welding together the ends of these glass bracelets that you can

these glass bracelets that you can

these glass bracelets that you can actually buy anywhere for a dollar

actually buy anywhere for a dollar

actually buy anywhere for a dollar I was nearly knocked over by the fumes

I was nearly knocked over by the fumes

I was nearly knocked over by the fumes when I was shown this this room when

when I was shown this this room when

when I was shown this this room when they opened these shutters and showed me

they opened these shutters and showed me

they opened these shutters and showed me the children inside

the children inside

the children inside working these kids end up really

working these kids end up really

working these kids end up really severely ill from these conditions and

severely ill from these conditions and

severely ill from these conditions and she’s dying of tuberculosis wearing the

she’s dying of tuberculosis wearing the

she’s dying of tuberculosis wearing the bangles that are killing her bonded

bangles that are killing her bonded

bangles that are killing her bonded labor can trap entire families for

labor can trap entire families for

labor can trap entire families for generations the brick Hill owners get

generations the brick Hill owners get

generations the brick Hill owners get workers by lending money for emergencies

workers by lending money for emergencies

workers by lending money for emergencies like a funeral or a medical problem and

like a funeral or a medical problem and

like a funeral or a medical problem and then they charge outrageous interest

then they charge outrageous interest

then they charge outrageous interest rates so the money can never be repaid

rates so the money can never be repaid

rates so the money can never be repaid and the debt is passed on to the

and the debt is passed on to the

and the debt is passed on to the children the heat was intense that day

children the heat was intense that day

children the heat was intense that day it was a hundred and forty degrees and

it was a hundred and forty degrees and

it was a hundred and forty degrees and the added heat from the furnaces that

the added heat from the furnaces that

the added heat from the furnaces that were burning the bricks around them it

were burning the bricks around them it

were burning the bricks around them it was really hell on earth in India the

was really hell on earth in India the

was really hell on earth in India the kids are trafficked into train stations

kids are trafficked into train stations

kids are trafficked into train stations to beg from passengers and they’re often

to beg from passengers and they’re often

to beg from passengers and they’re often maimed to get more sympathy and more

maimed to get more sympathy and more

maimed to get more sympathy and more money this babies come to symbolize for

money this babies come to symbolize for

money this babies come to symbolize for me the kind of poverty that would allow

me the kind of poverty that would allow

me the kind of poverty that would allow parents to think of their own children

parents to think of their own children

parents to think of their own children as commodities to be bought and sold

as commodities to be bought and sold

as commodities to be bought and sold this baby is an extreme risk of being

this baby is an extreme risk of being

this baby is an extreme risk of being sold into the illegal adoption trade in

sold into the illegal adoption trade in

sold into the illegal adoption trade in Guatemala and this is the largest red

Guatemala and this is the largest red

Guatemala and this is the largest red light district in India and and maybe

light district in India and and maybe

light district in India and and maybe even the world huge numbers of women are

even the world huge numbers of women are

even the world huge numbers of women are lured tricked sold into the sex industry

lured tricked sold into the sex industry

lured tricked sold into the sex industry around the world some and are knowingly

around the world some and are knowingly

around the world some and are knowingly but they don’t expect to become enslaved

but they don’t expect to become enslaved

but they don’t expect to become enslaved and they have no idea what’s in store

and they have no idea what’s in store

and they have no idea what’s in store for them she lives and works in this

for them she lives and works in this

for them she lives and works in this small cage they call them her entire

small cage they call them her entire

small cage they call them her entire world is there she entertains her

world is there she entertains her

world is there she entertains her customers on that that bed there’s a

customers on that that bed there’s a

customers on that that bed there’s a kitchen underneath it’s a little stove

kitchen underneath it’s a little stove

kitchen underneath it’s a little stove where she cooks her meals and eats and

where she cooks her meals and eats and

where she cooks her meals and eats and she was at that time had been

she was at that time had been

she was at that time had been hiv-positive for seven years and she’ll

hiv-positive for seven years and she’ll

hiv-positive for seven years and she’ll soon go into the family business

I wanted to show the perps he’s in a

I wanted to show the perps he’s in a jail on the border of India and Nepal

jail on the border of India and Nepal

jail on the border of India and Nepal and was convicted of trafficking two

and was convicted of trafficking two

and was convicted of trafficking two women and it’s really this small sort of

women and it’s really this small sort of

women and it’s really this small sort of mom-and-pop operations that feed the

mom-and-pop operations that feed the

mom-and-pop operations that feed the trafficking victims into that great

trafficking victims into that great

trafficking victims into that great pipeline and this is a brothel in Israel

pipeline and this is a brothel in Israel

pipeline and this is a brothel in Israel Israel incredibly enough has become one

Israel incredibly enough has become one

Israel incredibly enough has become one of the largest importers of European

of the largest importers of European

of the largest importers of European women they are now flown into Cairo

women they are now flown into Cairo

women they are now flown into Cairo where there then trafficked across the

where there then trafficked across the

where there then trafficked across the desert by the veterans who raped them

desert by the veterans who raped them

desert by the veterans who raped them beat them treat them horribly the fall

beat them treat them horribly the fall

beat them treat them horribly the fall of the Soviet Union caused the explosive

of the Soviet Union caused the explosive

of the Soviet Union caused the explosive growth of the trafficking of its young

growth of the trafficking of its young

growth of the trafficking of its young women all over the world and in Thailand

women all over the world and in Thailand

women all over the world and in Thailand that until the demand side of this

that until the demand side of this

that until the demand side of this equation is dealt with it will be

equation is dealt with it will be

equation is dealt with it will be impossible to eradicate or reform

besides the victims and the perps I

besides the victims and the perps I wanted to show the women who were who

wanted to show the women who were who

wanted to show the women who were who were trying to help who were trying to

were trying to help who were trying to

were trying to help who were trying to save the girls this was in Bosnia it was

save the girls this was in Bosnia it was

save the girls this was in Bosnia it was a shelter for the women who had been

a shelter for the women who had been

a shelter for the women who had been rescued from the brothels and it was run

rescued from the brothels and it was run

rescued from the brothels and it was run by this very brave Bosnian woman it was

by this very brave Bosnian woman it was

by this very brave Bosnian woman it was completely hidden from view I had they

completely hidden from view I had they

completely hidden from view I had they couldn’t tell me where where it was

couldn’t tell me where where it was

couldn’t tell me where where it was where I was going and it was surrounded

where I was going and it was surrounded

where I was going and it was surrounded by by armed guards the girls are

by by armed guards the girls are

by by armed guards the girls are unbelievably traumatized and broken one

unbelievably traumatized and broken one

unbelievably traumatized and broken one girl had a nail driven through her hand

girl had a nail driven through her hand

girl had a nail driven through her hand another was found with a syringe buried

another was found with a syringe buried

another was found with a syringe buried in her arm and I saw one with cigarette

in her arm and I saw one with cigarette

in her arm and I saw one with cigarette burns all over her body and this is in

burns all over her body and this is in

burns all over her body and this is in Nepal a young girl who had just entered

Nepal a young girl who had just entered

Nepal a young girl who had just entered the shelter had been rescued from a

the shelter had been rescued from a

the shelter had been rescued from a brothel in Kathmandu and this is a

brothel in Kathmandu and this is a

brothel in Kathmandu and this is a shelter in Tijuana on the border with

shelter in Tijuana on the border with

shelter in Tijuana on the border with the u.s. young Mexican boys are

the u.s. young Mexican boys are

the u.s. young Mexican boys are trafficked into the u.s. to be

trafficked into the u.s. to be

trafficked into the u.s. to be prostituted to pedophiles in this

prostituted to pedophiles in this

prostituted to pedophiles in this country and this is the children of the

country and this is the children of the

country and this is the children of the night shelter in Los Angeles children of

night shelter in Los Angeles children of

night shelter in Los Angeles children of the night shelter is rescued over 10,000

the night shelter is rescued over 10,000

the night shelter is rescued over 10,000 young kids from from the child sex

young kids from from the child sex

young kids from from the child sex industry in this country the kids are

industry in this country the kids are

industry in this country the kids are taken to sporting events like prize

taken to sporting events like prize

taken to sporting events like prize fights and even the Super Bowl Super

fights and even the Super Bowl Super

fights and even the Super Bowl Super Bowl and prostituted to to the men so I

Bowl and prostituted to to the men so I

Bowl and prostituted to to the men so I found out that it’s it’s not a problem

found out that it’s it’s not a problem

found out that it’s it’s not a problem in the poverty-stricken countries

in the poverty-stricken countries

in the poverty-stricken countries although a lot of it happens there

although a lot of it happens there

although a lot of it happens there it’s the wealthy nations the rich us who

it’s the wealthy nations the rich us who

it’s the wealthy nations the rich us who eat the food that they pick use the

eat the food that they pick use the

eat the food that they pick use the goods they make sexually exploit the

goods they make sexually exploit the

goods they make sexually exploit the women and children my eyes were open to

women and children my eyes were open to

women and children my eyes were open to this parallel universe that exists

this parallel universe that exists

this parallel universe that exists invisibly in our wealthy commercialized

invisibly in our wealthy commercialized

invisibly in our wealthy commercialized society and it took me a very long time

society and it took me a very long time

society and it took me a very long time to recover from this story from having

to recover from this story from having

to recover from this story from having to seek out evil every day and finding

to seek out evil every day and finding

to seek out evil every day and finding it but it’s the most important story

it but it’s the most important story

it but it’s the most important story that I’ve ever done it got the biggest

that I’ve ever done it got the biggest

that I’ve ever done it got the biggest response in the history of National

response in the history of National

response in the history of National Geographic until then so in the end

Geographic until then so in the end

Geographic until then so in the end maybe I didn’t change the world but that

maybe I didn’t change the world but that

maybe I didn’t change the world but that world changed me profoundly and

world changed me profoundly and

world changed me profoundly and irrevocably I don’t I don’t look at

irrevocably I don’t I don’t look at

irrevocably I don’t I don’t look at prostitution as a victimless crime

prostitution as a victimless crime

prostitution as a victimless crime anymore I don’t I don’t think that it’s

anymore I don’t I don’t think that it’s

anymore I don’t I don’t think that it’s a lot of fun to buy things really cheap

a lot of fun to buy things really cheap

a lot of fun to buy things really cheap anymore because in the drive for cheaper

anymore because in the drive for cheaper

anymore because in the drive for cheaper and cheaper goods there is no the

and cheaper goods there is no the

and cheaper goods there is no the temptation is just too great there’s no

temptation is just too great there’s no

temptation is just too great there’s no cheaper labor than a slave thank you

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