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good morning oh yeah I I looked on the

good morning oh yeah I I looked on the New York Times this morning cuz I was

New York Times this morning cuz I was

New York Times this morning cuz I was curious about a question I wanted to see

curious about a question I wanted to see

curious about a question I wanted to see how many articles in the last 24 hours

how many articles in the last 24 hours

how many articles in the last 24 hours mentioned the word data there were 42

mentioned the word data there were 42

mentioned the word data there were 42 there have been almost 2,000 this year

there have been almost 2,000 this year

there have been almost 2,000 this year that have involved the word data so

that have involved the word data so

that have involved the word data so there’s a data conversation happening

there’s a data conversation happening

there’s a data conversation happening the part of the data conversation that

the part of the data conversation that

the part of the data conversation that I’m most interested in is this idea of

I’m most interested in is this idea of

I’m most interested in is this idea of what is the lived experience of data

what is the lived experience of data

what is the lived experience of data what is it like to live in this new data

what is it like to live in this new data

what is it like to live in this new data world and and for that I’ll offer up a

world and and for that I’ll offer up a

world and and for that I’ll offer up a metaphor and that is the metaphor of

metaphor and that is the metaphor of

metaphor and that is the metaphor of this bizarre system of air travel that

this bizarre system of air travel that

this bizarre system of air travel that we often immerse ourselves in now this

we often immerse ourselves in now this

we often immerse ourselves in now this system is very very very complex but we

system is very very very complex but we

system is very very very complex but we often catch just a small glimpse of it

often catch just a small glimpse of it

often catch just a small glimpse of it we see that complexity as we pass

we see that complexity as we pass

we see that complexity as we pass through the security line up we might

through the security line up we might

through the security line up we might see it as we see our bag disappear along

see it as we see our bag disappear along

see it as we see our bag disappear along one of those moving runways we certainly

one of those moving runways we certainly

one of those moving runways we certainly see it when we’re sitting on the air

see it when we’re sitting on the air

see it when we’re sitting on the air plane and we seeing that refueling here

plane and we seeing that refueling here

plane and we seeing that refueling here is coming up and repairing and refueling

is coming up and repairing and refueling

is coming up and repairing and refueling the airplanes the fact is this that when

the airplanes the fact is this that when

the airplanes the fact is this that when you are on an airplane in the air you

you are on an airplane in the air you

you are on an airplane in the air you are one of 1 million people more than 1

are one of 1 million people more than 1

are one of 1 million people more than 1 million people who are currently in the

million people who are currently in the

million people who are currently in the air the staggering figure but this

air the staggering figure but this

air the staggering figure but this experience of being part of something

experience of being part of something

experience of being part of something that is so complicated that you can

that is so complicated that you can

that is so complicated that you can barely understand it is is I think very

barely understand it is is I think very

barely understand it is is I think very closely related to the data experience

closely related to the data experience

closely related to the data experience and also this idea of kind of a loss of

and also this idea of kind of a loss of

and also this idea of kind of a loss of control right getting on an airplane is

control right getting on an airplane is

control right getting on an airplane is one of those few times where we allow

one of those few times where we allow

one of those few times where we allow our the control to be lost so I want to

our the control to be lost so I want to

our the control to be lost so I want to talk about what that means to us as we

talk about what that means to us as we

talk about what that means to us as we engage in this conversation about data

engage in this conversation about data

engage in this conversation about data you know things are getting more

you know things are getting more

you know things are getting more complicated people have known this for a

complicated people have known this for a

complicated people have known this for a little while the American novelist it

little while the American novelist it

little while the American novelist it David Foster Wallace he wrote this book

David Foster Wallace he wrote this book

David Foster Wallace he wrote this book called Infinite Jest if an adjust is

called Infinite Jest if an adjust is

called Infinite Jest if an adjust is full of footnotes occasionally those

full of footnotes occasionally those

full of footnotes occasionally those footnotes have footnotes and

footnotes have footnotes and

footnotes have footnotes and occasionally those footnotes – footnotes

occasionally those footnotes – footnotes

occasionally those footnotes – footnotes have footnotes and when he was asked why

have footnotes and when he was asked why

have footnotes and when he was asked why he did this he responded he said I

he did this he responded he said I

he did this he responded he said I wanted to mimic the information flood

wanted to mimic the information flood

wanted to mimic the information flood and data triage that I thought would be

and data triage that I thought would be

and data triage that I thought would be would be a bigger part of us life 15

would be a bigger part of us life 15

would be a bigger part of us life 15 years from now Infinite Jest was written

years from now Infinite Jest was written

years from now Infinite Jest was written 16 years ago and this word data triage

16 years ago and this word data triage

16 years ago and this word data triage is really interesting to me because what

is really interesting to me because what

is really interesting to me because what I do I think is a form of data

I do I think is a form of data

I do I think is a form of data triage and data visualization is a form

triage and data visualization is a form

triage and data visualization is a form of data triage but I think that people

of data triage but I think that people

of data triage but I think that people that maybe maybe don’t have a full

that maybe maybe don’t have a full

that maybe maybe don’t have a full understanding of what we can do with

understanding of what we can do with

understanding of what we can do with data visualization we we first started

data visualization we we first started

data visualization we we first started hearing about data visualization in the

hearing about data visualization in the

hearing about data visualization in the late 1800s Early 1900s with graphics

late 1800s Early 1900s with graphics

late 1800s Early 1900s with graphics like this this is florence Nightingale’s

like this this is florence Nightingale’s

like this this is florence Nightingale’s graphic showing the casualty count of

graphic showing the casualty count of

graphic showing the casualty count of soldiers and her point was that soldiers

soldiers and her point was that soldiers

soldiers and her point was that soldiers were dying more of disease than they

were dying more of disease than they

were dying more of disease than they were dying on the battlefield at the

were dying on the battlefield at the

were dying on the battlefield at the same time John Snow produced this famous

same time John Snow produced this famous

same time John Snow produced this famous graphic which plotted the incidence of

graphic which plotted the incidence of

graphic which plotted the incidence of cholera in a certain area of London and

cholera in a certain area of London and

cholera in a certain area of London and from this graphic he was able to

from this graphic he was able to

from this graphic he was able to discover what the source of that cholera

discover what the source of that cholera

discover what the source of that cholera epidemic was in this case it was a

epidemic was in this case it was a

epidemic was in this case it was a single well and at the same time there

single well and at the same time there

single well and at the same time there were medical instruments which I think

were medical instruments which I think

were medical instruments which I think helped me to find my point quite well

helped me to find my point quite well

helped me to find my point quite well which is this is a blood pressure meter

which is this is a blood pressure meter

which is this is a blood pressure meter I’m not even gonna try to pronounce that

I’m not even gonna try to pronounce that

I’m not even gonna try to pronounce that name on stage which takes something very

name on stage which takes something very

name on stage which takes something very complicated the circulatory system and

complicated the circulatory system and

complicated the circulatory system and makes it simple right at the same time

makes it simple right at the same time

makes it simple right at the same time there was the x-ray now the x-ray

there was the x-ray now the x-ray

there was the x-ray now the x-ray doesn’t make something simple it shows

doesn’t make something simple it shows

doesn’t make something simple it shows us something that we have never seen

us something that we have never seen

us something that we have never seen before so I’d suggest there are two

before so I’d suggest there are two

before so I’d suggest there are two reasons why we visualize data to reduce

reasons why we visualize data to reduce

reasons why we visualize data to reduce things to make them simpler and to

things to make them simpler and to

things to make them simpler and to reveal things to show us things that we

reveal things to show us things that we

reveal things to show us things that we have never seen before and I’m really

have never seen before and I’m really

have never seen before and I’m really interested in this second part of data

interested in this second part of data

interested in this second part of data visualization this is a piece that I did

visualization this is a piece that I did

visualization this is a piece that I did four years ago called just landed and

four years ago called just landed and

four years ago called just landed and here I’m listening for tweets I’m hit

here I’m listening for tweets I’m hit

here I’m listening for tweets I’m hit listening for people who have said I’m

listening for people who have said I’m

listening for people who have said I’m just landed in Hawaii or I’ve just

just landed in Hawaii or I’ve just

just landed in Hawaii or I’ve just landed in New York right there this

landed in New York right there this

landed in New York right there this thinly veiled show-off tweets and we can

thinly veiled show-off tweets and we can

thinly veiled show-off tweets and we can take those tweets and we can put them

take those tweets and we can put them

take those tweets and we can put them together into a system because I know

together into a system because I know

together into a system because I know where that person lives because they’ve

where that person lives because they’ve

where that person lives because they’ve told me in their profile and I know

told me in their profile and I know

told me in their profile and I know where they’re going because they just

where they’re going because they just

where they’re going because they just told me on Twitter and so we can produce

told me on Twitter and so we can produce

told me on Twitter and so we can produce a whole system of world travel just from

a whole system of world travel just from

a whole system of world travel just from listening to people on Twitter a

listening to people on Twitter a

listening to people on Twitter a companion project was this one called

companion project was this one called

companion project was this one called good morning which is just that this is

good morning which is just that this is

good morning which is just that this is everybody on Twitter saying good morning

everybody on Twitter saying good morning

everybody on Twitter saying good morning the people who are green dots those are

the people who are green dots those are

the people who are green dots those are people who get up early the people who

people who get up early the people who

people who get up early the people who are red dots you’ll see lots on the west

are red dots you’ll see lots on the west

are red dots you’ll see lots on the west coast as we move over are people who get

coast as we move over are people who get

coast as we move over are people who get up a little bit later so this is really

up a little bit later so this is really

up a little bit later so this is really exciting simple data but it’s something

exciting simple data but it’s something

exciting simple data but it’s something that we’ve never seen before this is a

that we’ve never seen before this is a

that we’ve never seen before this is a revelatory thing it was a revelatory

revelatory thing it was a revelatory

revelatory thing it was a revelatory thing for me now I spent two and a half

thing for me now I spent two and a half

thing for me now I spent two and a half years at the New York Times that was the

years at the New York Times that was the

years at the New York Times that was the data artist-in-residence a lot of you

data artist-in-residence a lot of you

data artist-in-residence a lot of you are asking I did make up that title and

are asking I did make up that title and

are asking I did make up that title and I worked I worked with this guy his name

I worked I worked with this guy his name

I worked I worked with this guy his name is Mark Hansen he’s a statistician and

is Mark Hansen he’s a statistician and

is Mark Hansen he’s a statistician and together we built a tool to look at how

together we built a tool to look at how

together we built a tool to look at how all of the content that the x produces

all of the content that the x produces

all of the content that the x produces is being shared through social networks

is being shared through social networks

is being shared through social networks we knew that people were talking about

we knew that people were talking about

we knew that people were talking about these things but we didn’t really know

these things but we didn’t really know

these things but we didn’t really know much about that so when I think about

much about that so when I think about

much about that so when I think about complex datasets like this I always

complex datasets like this I always

complex datasets like this I always think how can we build an exploratory

think how can we build an exploratory

think how can we build an exploratory tool how can we build a vehicle that

tool how can we build a vehicle that

tool how can we build a vehicle that lets us explore this data and lets us

lets us explore this data and lets us

lets us explore this data and lets us find the little pieces of it that might

find the little pieces of it that might

find the little pieces of it that might be interesting so we built this tool

be interesting so we built this tool

be interesting so we built this tool called cascade so this is a cascade for

called cascade so this is a cascade for

called cascade so this is a cascade for a story called island where people

a story called island where people

a story called island where people forgot to die about an island in the

forgot to die about an island in the

forgot to die about an island in the Mediterranean where people live very

Mediterranean where people live very

Mediterranean where people live very long even longer than the neighboring

long even longer than the neighboring

long even longer than the neighboring islands and so we see all of the traffic

islands and so we see all of the traffic

islands and so we see all of the traffic in this story and then the interesting

in this story and then the interesting

in this story and then the interesting thing that I that I like about this is

thing that I that I like about this is

thing that I that I like about this is that we can put this two-dimensional

that we can put this two-dimensional

that we can put this two-dimensional view into three dimensions and we can

view into three dimensions and we can

view into three dimensions and we can see the separate threads of conversation

see the separate threads of conversation

see the separate threads of conversation that exist within that discussion and I

that exist within that discussion and I

that exist within that discussion and I was so excited to see this for the first

was so excited to see this for the first

was so excited to see this for the first time I call these the architectures of

time I call these the architectures of

time I call these the architectures of conversation we’re seeing the actual

conversation we’re seeing the actual

conversation we’re seeing the actual structure of a conversation as people

structure of a conversation as people

structure of a conversation as people are sharing and talking about this

are sharing and talking about this

are sharing and talking about this specific story and every story has one

specific story and every story has one

specific story and every story has one of these Cascades and one of the things

of these Cascades and one of the things

of these Cascades and one of the things that we were really pleased to find out

that we were really pleased to find out

that we were really pleased to find out was that different types of stories have

was that different types of stories have

was that different types of stories have different structures so for example

different structures so for example

different structures so for example nicholas kristof his structures tend to

nicholas kristof his structures tend to

nicholas kristof his structures tend to be like shrubbery they they’re low and

be like shrubbery they they’re low and

be like shrubbery they they’re low and they spread very far whereas current

they spread very far whereas current

they spread very far whereas current events stories tend to be tall like

events stories tend to be tall like

events stories tend to be tall like Christmas trees because people share

Christmas trees because people share

Christmas trees because people share them very quickly but they don’t share

them very quickly but they don’t share

them very quickly but they don’t share them very long you know I kind of felt

them very long you know I kind of felt

them very long you know I kind of felt like I was uncovering something that

like I was uncovering something that

like I was uncovering something that that was being seen for the first time

that was being seen for the first time

that was being seen for the first time and these structures allowed us to talk

and these structures allowed us to talk

and these structures allowed us to talk about this in a real way right now now

about this in a real way right now now

about this in a real way right now now we can talk about sharing in more than

we can talk about sharing in more than

we can talk about sharing in more than these kind of loose very loose

these kind of loose very loose

these kind of loose very loose conceptual terms now I’ve been I’ve been

conceptual terms now I’ve been I’ve been

conceptual terms now I’ve been I’ve been annoyed a little bit lately because

annoyed a little bit lately because

annoyed a little bit lately because people talk about visualization as a

people talk about visualization as a

people talk about visualization as a thing it’s like

thing it’s like

thing it’s like make me a visualization visualization is

make me a visualization visualization is

make me a visualization visualization is a down but it’s a verbal noun it has a

a down but it’s a verbal noun it has a

a down but it’s a verbal noun it has a verb built into it it’s visualization is

verb built into it it’s visualization is

verb built into it it’s visualization is a process and I like to think about

a process and I like to think about

a process and I like to think about myself as sometimes as a question farmer

myself as sometimes as a question farmer

myself as sometimes as a question farmer and I’m visualizing to get more

and I’m visualizing to get more

and I’m visualizing to get more questions out of things and often these

questions out of things and often these

questions out of things and often these things are just things that I do for fun

things are just things that I do for fun

things are just things that I do for fun so this is that the original Kepler

so this is that the original Kepler

so this is that the original Kepler project paper that was released about

project paper that was released about

project paper that was released about two years ago

two years ago

two years ago you can tell it’s important because

you can tell it’s important because

you can tell it’s important because there’s like 85 authors on that paper

there’s like 85 authors on that paper

there’s like 85 authors on that paper and when it was released I was very

and when it was released I was very

and when it was released I was very excited in it and I sat down to read it

excited in it and I sat down to read it

excited in it and I sat down to read it and I got to these like well stunningly

and I got to these like well stunningly

and I got to these like well stunningly gripping graphics you know and I don’t

gripping graphics you know and I don’t

gripping graphics you know and I don’t want it I don’t want to talk bad about

want it I don’t want to talk bad about

want it I don’t want to talk bad about these graphics because for astronomers

these graphics because for astronomers

these graphics because for astronomers these graphics are very important and

these graphics are very important and

these graphics are very important and probably very exciting but for most of

probably very exciting but for most of

probably very exciting but for most of us in the room with a couple exceptions

us in the room with a couple exceptions

us in the room with a couple exceptions they’re probably not that exciting right

they’re probably not that exciting right

they’re probably not that exciting right so so I thought how could I understand

so so I thought how could I understand

so so I thought how could I understand this system a little bit better so I sat

this system a little bit better so I sat

this system a little bit better so I sat down for about a day and I created a

down for about a day and I created a

down for about a day and I created a visualization of that data so what

visualization of that data so what

visualization of that data so what you’re seeing here is we zoom in all of

you’re seeing here is we zoom in all of

you’re seeing here is we zoom in all of those planets that had been discovered

those planets that had been discovered

those planets that had been discovered at the time from Kepler as if they were

at the time from Kepler as if they were

at the time from Kepler as if they were orbiting around a single star so right

orbiting around a single star so right

orbiting around a single star so right away I was able to see that these

away I was able to see that these

away I was able to see that these planets they’re very close to their star

planets they’re very close to their star

planets they’re very close to their star they’re very large they’re very hot and

they’re very large they’re very hot and

they’re very large they’re very hot and in understanding that I was actually

in understanding that I was actually

in understanding that I was actually able to understand the way that this

able to understand the way that this

able to understand the way that this data was being measured a little bit

data was being measured a little bit

data was being measured a little bit better so here I’m thinking about a

better so here I’m thinking about a

better so here I’m thinking about a couple of things I’m thinking how can we

couple of things I’m thinking how can we

couple of things I’m thinking how can we take a data set and how can we view it

take a data set and how can we view it

take a data set and how can we view it from different angles both conceptual

from different angles both conceptual

from different angles both conceptual angles and actual physical angles to be

angles and actual physical angles to be

angles and actual physical angles to be able to discover a little bit more about

able to discover a little bit more about

able to discover a little bit more about the data but I’m I love this project

the data but I’m I love this project

the data but I’m I love this project because it encapsulates a strategy that

because it encapsulates a strategy that

because it encapsulates a strategy that I have I think very well and maybe

I have I think very well and maybe

I have I think very well and maybe better than any other project that I’ve

better than any other project that I’ve

better than any other project that I’ve done and this strategy it’s a two word

done and this strategy it’s a two word

done and this strategy it’s a two word strategy it’s called new uh and that

strategy it’s called new uh and that

strategy it’s called new uh and that means the first thing that I want people

means the first thing that I want people

means the first thing that I want people to do is I want them to say ooh when

to do is I want them to say ooh when

to do is I want them to say ooh when they see the visualization but that o is

they see the visualization but that o is

they see the visualization but that o is useless unless there’s an AA I want that

useless unless there’s an AA I want that

useless unless there’s an AA I want that learned moment that comes okay that

learned moment that comes okay that

learned moment that comes okay that comes from from really being able to

comes from from really being able to

comes from from really being able to discover something that you didn’t

discover something that you didn’t

discover something that you didn’t understand before and I think if you

understand before and I think if you

understand before and I think if you looked at every visualization that’s

looked at every visualization that’s

looked at every visualization that’s been made all my visualizations included

been made all my visualizations included

been made all my visualizations included we can look at them and say is there too

we can look at them and say is there too

we can look at them and say is there too much oh and not enough or maybe there’s

much oh and not enough or maybe there’s

much oh and not enough or maybe there’s too much and not enough

too much and not enough

too much and not enough booooo meaning that only the people who

booooo meaning that only the people who

booooo meaning that only the people who are really deeply fascinated in that

are really deeply fascinated in that

are really deeply fascinated in that specific thing are ever going to pay

specific thing are ever going to pay

specific thing are ever going to pay attention to it so a little bit later we

attention to it so a little bit later we

attention to it so a little bit later we took

took

took the same project and working with the

the same project and working with the

the same project and working with the team in in Los Angeles at a company

team in in Los Angeles at a company

team in in Los Angeles at a company called oblong we built this gestural

called oblong we built this gestural

called oblong we built this gestural interface for it which was really

interface for it which was really

interface for it which was really exciting for me so some of you as you’re

exciting for me so some of you as you’re

exciting for me so some of you as you’re watching this video may have the same

watching this video may have the same

watching this video may have the same thought that that most people do when

thought that that most people do when

thought that that most people do when they see this video which is a Minority

they see this video which is a Minority

they see this video which is a Minority Report and there’s a reason for that is

Report and there’s a reason for that is

Report and there’s a reason for that is because this is the John endo Koffler

because this is the John endo Koffler

because this is the John endo Koffler who was the designer behind Minority

who was the designer behind Minority

who was the designer behind Minority Report this is his company so they’re

Report this is his company so they’re

Report this is his company so they’re taking these things and moving them into

taking these things and moving them into

taking these things and moving them into the future so I started a company in

the future so I started a company in

the future so I started a company in January called the office for creative

January called the office for creative

January called the office for creative research so we’re a multidisciplinary

research so we’re a multidisciplinary

research so we’re a multidisciplinary research group and we’re thinking a lot

research group and we’re thinking a lot

research group and we’re thinking a lot about new engagements with data and how

about new engagements with data and how

about new engagements with data and how we can bring data to the public in

we can bring data to the public in

we can bring data to the public in really interesting ways and one of the

really interesting ways and one of the

really interesting ways and one of the things that we’ve been doing and one of

things that we’ve been doing and one of

things that we’ve been doing and one of the things we’ve been focusing on is how

the things we’ve been focusing on is how

the things we’ve been focusing on is how do we bring data into public space

do we bring data into public space

do we bring data into public space because usually we experience data in

because usually we experience data in

because usually we experience data in front of this glowing screen or we might

front of this glowing screen or we might

front of this glowing screen or we might experience it in a newspaper and a

experience it in a newspaper and a

experience it in a newspaper and a magazine but how do we experience it in

magazine but how do we experience it in

magazine but how do we experience it in public how do we experience it together

public how do we experience it together

public how do we experience it together so this is a project that we worked on

so this is a project that we worked on

so this is a project that we worked on which is a permanent installation at the

which is a permanent installation at the

which is a permanent installation at the University of Texas called

University of Texas called

University of Texas called and that’s the way it is and what you’re

and that’s the way it is and what you’re

and that’s the way it is and what you’re seeing here is you’re seeing entities

seeing here is you’re seeing entities

seeing here is you’re seeing entities being extracted from from all of the

being extracted from from all of the

being extracted from from all of the news feeds in Austin Texas so this runs

news feeds in Austin Texas so this runs

news feeds in Austin Texas so this runs every day we analyzed the news feeds

every day we analyzed the news feeds

every day we analyzed the news feeds from Austin Texas and we extract these

from Austin Texas and we extract these

from Austin Texas and we extract these what we call meaningful entities from

what we call meaningful entities from

what we call meaningful entities from them so at this point there was a

them so at this point there was a

them so at this point there was a drought in in in Colorado so you see

drought in in in Colorado so you see

drought in in in Colorado so you see some words tied to that drought in

some words tied to that drought in

some words tied to that drought in Colorado but depending on the day that

Colorado but depending on the day that

Colorado but depending on the day that you were viewing this experience would

you were viewing this experience would

you were viewing this experience would be different so to give you an idea of

be different so to give you an idea of

be different so to give you an idea of scale this is five stories tall in 140

scale this is five stories tall in 140

scale this is five stories tall in 140 feet wide this video gives you a little

feet wide this video gives you a little

feet wide this video gives you a little bit better of an idea of what it feels

bit better of an idea of what it feels

bit better of an idea of what it feels like to stand in front of that building

like to stand in front of that building

like to stand in front of that building and we’ve had this really interesting

and we’ve had this really interesting

and we’ve had this really interesting experience with this project where where

experience with this project where where

experience with this project where where people are actually sitting down every

people are actually sitting down every

people are actually sitting down every night to come and watch the news which

night to come and watch the news which

night to come and watch the news which we’ve really been excited excited by so

we’ve really been excited excited by so

we’ve really been excited excited by so information has really changed in scale

information has really changed in scale

information has really changed in scale that that is is clear to us but one of

that that is is clear to us but one of

that that is is clear to us but one of the things that I think I want to bring

the things that I think I want to bring

the things that I think I want to bring to this conversation is the ideas maybe

to this conversation is the ideas maybe

to this conversation is the ideas maybe sometimes data is not what we think it

sometimes data is not what we think it

sometimes data is not what we think it is and we can engage with it in very

is and we can engage with it in very

is and we can engage with it in very different in interesting ways this is a

different in interesting ways this is a

different in interesting ways this is a map of all the hotels in the world well

map of all the hotels in the world well

map of all the hotels in the world well not all of them but most of them 700,000

not all of them but most of them 700,000

not all of them but most of them 700,000 hotels pretty interesting data set but a

hotels pretty interesting data set but a

hotels pretty interesting data set but a pretty hard one to think about how are

pretty hard one to think about how are

pretty hard one to think about how are we going to jump into this and give

we going to jump into this and give

we going to jump into this and give people an experience of it because

people an experience of it because

people an experience of it because hotels are lived

hotels are lived

hotels are lived perience right there’s something that we

perience right there’s something that we

perience right there’s something that we stay in and sleep in it and interact in

stay in and sleep in it and interact in

stay in and sleep in it and interact in so we in we built this project for the

so we in we built this project for the

so we in we built this project for the Vancouver Art Gallery and and the

Vancouver Art Gallery and and the

Vancouver Art Gallery and and the thinking around this project was really

thinking around this project was really

thinking around this project was really heavily based on this sketch which is a

heavily based on this sketch which is a

heavily based on this sketch which is a sketch by Jack Kerouac to explain the

sketch by Jack Kerouac to explain the

sketch by Jack Kerouac to explain the novel on the road and we thought what

novel on the road and we thought what

novel on the road and we thought what would happen if we took maps like this

would happen if we took maps like this

would happen if we took maps like this that we would extract from fiction and

that we would extract from fiction and

that we would extract from fiction and we use them as a framework to travel

we use them as a framework to travel

we use them as a framework to travel through that database of 700,000 stories

through that database of 700,000 stories

through that database of 700,000 stories so the idea goes kind of like this

so the idea goes kind of like this

so the idea goes kind of like this through one of the stories that we work

through one of the stories that we work

through one of the stories that we work with most is Lolita and we say if the

with most is Lolita and we say if the

with most is Lolita and we say if the characters of Lolita were travelling

characters of Lolita were travelling

characters of Lolita were travelling around America today staying in the same

around America today staying in the same

around America today staying in the same places that they stayed in the novel

places that they stayed in the novel

places that they stayed in the novel which hotels would they stay in how much

which hotels would they stay in how much

which hotels would they stay in how much would they pay what would the user

would they pay what would the user

would they pay what would the user reviews of those hotels look like so we

reviews of those hotels look like so we

reviews of those hotels look like so we built this system which runs over and

built this system which runs over and

built this system which runs over and over and over and over again with a set

over and over and over again with a set

over and over and over again with a set of about 30 novels we’re building a

of about 30 novels we’re building a

of about 30 novels we’re building a system that users are going to be able

system that users are going to be able

system that users are going to be able to add to the system so that we can

to add to the system so that we can

to add to the system so that we can explore this really complex data set but

explore this really complex data set but

explore this really complex data set but this really culturally important data

this really culturally important data

this really culturally important data set through a really human system in

set through a really human system in

set through a really human system in this case the human system of fiction

this case the human system of fiction

this case the human system of fiction you know my problem with our discussion

you know my problem with our discussion

you know my problem with our discussion around data right now it’s basically

around data right now it’s basically

around data right now it’s basically encapsulated in this quote which not

encapsulated in this quote which not

encapsulated in this quote which not surprisingly comes from an advertising

surprisingly comes from an advertising

surprisingly comes from an advertising executive data is the new oil data is

executive data is the new oil data is

executive data is the new oil data is not the new oil first of all I’m data as

not the new oil first of all I’m data as

not the new oil first of all I’m data as we I hope we’ve starting to learn is

we I hope we’ve starting to learn is

we I hope we’ve starting to learn is deeply human and and and this is

deeply human and and and this is

deeply human and and and this is something that is tied to us in all

something that is tied to us in all

something that is tied to us in all kinds of different ways and there’s a

kinds of different ways and there’s a

kinds of different ways and there’s a quote by laszlo barabasi which I really

quote by laszlo barabasi which I really

quote by laszlo barabasi which I really like and really summarizes what I think

like and really summarizes what I think

like and really summarizes what I think could be the future of our relationship

could be the future of our relationship

could be the future of our relationship with data do we want to stop different

with data do we want to stop different

with data do we want to stop different transmitted diseases do you want to

transmitted diseases do you want to

transmitted diseases do you want to design better cities do we want to stop

design better cities do we want to stop

design better cities do we want to stop traffic jams well the data to do so is

traffic jams well the data to do so is

traffic jams well the data to do so is there in private hands and we need to

there in private hands and we need to

there in private hands and we need to identify some social consensus by which

identify some social consensus by which

identify some social consensus by which the data can be shared with the

the data can be shared with the

the data can be shared with the different stakeholders so you can take

different stakeholders so you can take

different stakeholders so you can take advantage of that so the underlying

advantage of that so the underlying

advantage of that so the underlying thing that I’m trying to do with my work

thing that I’m trying to do with my work

thing that I’m trying to do with my work is I’m trying to push this type of

is I’m trying to push this type of

is I’m trying to push this type of agenda how can we get things to really

agenda how can we get things to really

agenda how can we get things to really change through our conversation with

change through our conversation with

change through our conversation with data well I think some part of that has

data well I think some part of that has

data well I think some part of that has already happened and I think there is a

already happened and I think there is a

already happened and I think there is a lot of discussion about data and

lot of discussion about data and

lot of discussion about data and possibility there is a lot there are a

possibility there is a lot there are a

possibility there is a lot there are a lot of things that we can do with data

lot of things that we can do with data

lot of things that we can do with data and we know that and we’re excited about

and we know that and we’re excited about

and we know that and we’re excited about that in tandem though there is a whole

that in tandem though there is a whole

that in tandem though there is a whole question about data and ethics how does

question about data and ethics how does

question about data and ethics how does this affect us how does it affect our

this affect us how does it affect our

this affect us how does it affect our human lives and how can we make sure

human lives and how can we make sure

human lives and how can we make sure that our choices with data are gonna be

that our choices with data are gonna be

that our choices with data are gonna be better choices than the ones we made

better choices than the ones we made

better choices than the ones we made with oil right that’s my that’s my

with oil right that’s my that’s my

with oil right that’s my that’s my biggest problem with that metaphor like

biggest problem with that metaphor like

biggest problem with that metaphor like everyone thinks this is such a good

everyone thinks this is such a good

everyone thinks this is such a good thing data is the new oil it’s like we

thing data is the new oil it’s like we

thing data is the new oil it’s like we need another oil like we’re in so much

need another oil like we’re in so much

need another oil like we’re in so much trouble already so I’ve taken I’ve taken

trouble already so I’ve taken I’ve taken

trouble already so I’ve taken I’ve taken 14 minutes now to really answer a

14 minutes now to really answer a

14 minutes now to really answer a question which I’m sure that a lot of

question which I’m sure that a lot of

question which I’m sure that a lot of you had when you heard me introduced

you had when you heard me introduced

you had when you heard me introduced which is why data art and why data

which is why data art and why data

which is why data art and why data artists and the third thing is that I

artists and the third thing is that I

artists and the third thing is that I really think that this conversation can

really think that this conversation can

really think that this conversation can only move forward by combining dialogue

only move forward by combining dialogue

only move forward by combining dialogue not only from scientists not only from

not only from scientists not only from

not only from scientists not only from industry but also from poets from from

industry but also from poets from from

industry but also from poets from from actors and-and-and from all of these

actors and-and-and from all of these

actors and-and-and from all of these these traditions the more traditional

these traditions the more traditional

these traditions the more traditional forms of art which we know are really

forms of art which we know are really

forms of art which we know are really effective at driving driving change in

effective at driving driving change in

effective at driving driving change in driving conversation thank you

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