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one of the things I like to do I’m in

one of the things I like to do I’m in the Amazon it’s just bustling myths I

the Amazon it’s just bustling myths I

the Amazon it’s just bustling myths I don’t want all this nonsense this a

don’t want all this nonsense this a

don’t want all this nonsense this a romantic image we have of indigenous

romantic image we have of indigenous

romantic image we have of indigenous people they’re just people

people they’re just people

people they’re just people yeah reason I like these pictures

yeah reason I like these pictures

yeah reason I like these pictures because we’ll you know we always go and

because we’ll you know we always go and

because we’ll you know we always go and look at these places to see how

look at these places to see how

look at these places to see how different we are and what do gets me

different we are and what do gets me

different we are and what do gets me about these those two pictures actually

about these those two pictures actually

about these those two pictures actually what roses similar we are you know my

what roses similar we are you know my

what roses similar we are you know my kids do stuff like this mine and ice hut

kids do stuff like this mine and ice hut

kids do stuff like this mine and ice hut is in the peruvian amazon okay it’s like

is in the peruvian amazon okay it’s like

is in the peruvian amazon okay it’s like the far west side of the amazon right at

the far west side of the amazon right at

the far west side of the amazon right at the bottom of of the andes as national

the bottom of of the andes as national

the bottom of of the andes as national parks go it’s pretty big at 17,000

parks go it’s pretty big at 17,000

parks go it’s pretty big at 17,000 square kilometers it’s twice the size of

square kilometers it’s twice the size of

square kilometers it’s twice the size of Yellowstone National Park what makes

Yellowstone National Park what makes

Yellowstone National Park what makes money special is it has the highest

money special is it has the highest

money special is it has the highest diversity of life of anywhere in the

diversity of life of anywhere in the

diversity of life of anywhere in the world you’re dealing with a place with

world you’re dealing with a place with

world you’re dealing with a place with thirteen hundred and seven known species

thirteen hundred and seven known species

thirteen hundred and seven known species of butterfly that’s six percent of the

of butterfly that’s six percent of the

of butterfly that’s six percent of the world’s total it has 15 species of

world’s total it has 15 species of

world’s total it has 15 species of monkey ten percent of all the bird

monkey ten percent of all the bird

monkey ten percent of all the bird species in the world live in Maya

species in the world live in Maya

species in the world live in Maya National Park there’s more tree species

National Park there’s more tree species

National Park there’s more tree species and a single hectare than the whole of

and a single hectare than the whole of

and a single hectare than the whole of North America you know this is it’s just

North America you know this is it’s just

North America you know this is it’s just nuts the diversity in it there’s an

nuts the diversity in it there’s an

nuts the diversity in it there’s an undescribed species of poison dart frog

undescribed species of poison dart frog

undescribed species of poison dart frog it’s called sp3 it hasn’t got a name yet

it’s called sp3 it hasn’t got a name yet

it’s called sp3 it hasn’t got a name yet so you just been discovered a friend of

so you just been discovered a friend of

so you just been discovered a friend of mine to prove in herpetologist found it

mine to prove in herpetologist found it

mine to prove in herpetologist found it who knows how many species Manny’s got

who knows how many species Manny’s got

who knows how many species Manny’s got more reptiles and amphibians and

more reptiles and amphibians and

more reptiles and amphibians and anywhere else in the world

anywhere else in the world

anywhere else in the world there’s a giant otter a six-foot long

there’s a giant otter a six-foot long

there’s a giant otter a six-foot long the eight pounds of fish a day eight

the eight pounds of fish a day eight

the eight pounds of fish a day eight piranhas you know I’m badass have you

piranhas you know I’m badass have you

piranhas you know I’m badass have you got to beat her on IV in front so I

got to beat her on IV in front so I

got to beat her on IV in front so I doesn’t mean I’m badass cuz I think

doesn’t mean I’m badass cuz I think

doesn’t mean I’m badass cuz I think prawns but they are now but people say

prawns but they are now but people say

prawns but they are now but people say to me I know I don’t want to go to the

to me I know I don’t want to go to the

to me I know I don’t want to go to the rainforest and scared of snakes night

rainforest and scared of snakes night

rainforest and scared of snakes night fighting flies yeah and I always lied to

fighting flies yeah and I always lied to

fighting flies yeah and I always lied to them so you don’t need to be and you do

them so you don’t need to be and you do

them so you don’t need to be and you do these things scare the crap out of me

these things scare the crap out of me

these things scare the crap out of me this is a two stripe forest pit viper

this is a two stripe forest pit viper

this is a two stripe forest pit viper it’s perfectly camouflage as you can see

it’s perfectly camouflage as you can see

it’s perfectly camouflage as you can see from the color of the background it’s

from the color of the background it’s

from the color of the background it’s highly hemotoxic inside too toxic and a

highly hemotoxic inside too toxic and a

highly hemotoxic inside too toxic and a hangs around around neck height no have

hangs around around neck height no have

hangs around around neck height no have you got to worry about and I

you got to worry about and I

you got to worry about and I photographed this snake I’ve been

photographed this snake I’ve been

photographed this snake I’ve been walking within 18 inches of that snake

walking within 18 inches of that snake

walking within 18 inches of that snake for about half an hour setting a camera

for about half an hour setting a camera

for about half an hour setting a camera trap up backwards and forwards but and

trap up backwards and forwards but and

trap up backwards and forwards but and my friend Lex is suddenly freaked and

my friend Lex is suddenly freaked and

my friend Lex is suddenly freaked and just shouted and they call them Laura

just shouted and they call them Laura

just shouted and they call them Laura machaca that’s a local name right in our

machaca that’s a local name right in our

machaca that’s a local name right in our hearts we’re going crazy because we’ve

hearts we’re going crazy because we’ve

hearts we’re going crazy because we’ve just been and then so every time we went

just been and then so every time we went

just been and then so every time we went near it would contract ready to strike

near it would contract ready to strike

near it would contract ready to strike and it can almost strike its body length

and it can almost strike its body length

and it can almost strike its body length yeah guy thing gets in than that you’re

yeah guy thing gets in than that you’re

yeah guy thing gets in than that you’re gonna be dead in 25 minutes it is called

gonna be dead in 25 minutes it is called

gonna be dead in 25 minutes it is called a of the rock this is a super cool

a of the rock this is a super cool

a of the rock this is a super cool / I love these birds if you can’t work

/ I love these birds if you can’t work

/ I love these birds if you can’t work it out you can jailer you can just see

it out you can jailer you can just see

it out you can jailer you can just see the bottom of its beat poking out yeah

the bottom of its beat poking out yeah

the bottom of its beat poking out yeah maybe not okay so these this so that so

maybe not okay so these this so that so

maybe not okay so these this so that so one of the reasons manu is so diverse is

one of the reasons manu is so diverse is

one of the reasons manu is so diverse is a bit of a cheat because it actually

a bit of a cheat because it actually

a bit of a cheat because it actually starts at high altitude so the park

starts at high altitude so the park

starts at high altitude so the park starts right up in the end these and it

starts right up in the end these and it

starts right up in the end these and it goes right down to load and rainforest

goes right down to load and rainforest

goes right down to load and rainforest and this and in that process it goes

and this and in that process it goes

and this and in that process it goes through cloud forest which is really

through cloud forest which is really

through cloud forest which is really diverse and you know one of the least

diverse and you know one of the least

diverse and you know one of the least studied regions of the tropics actually

studied regions of the tropics actually

studied regions of the tropics actually this is an ocelot one of seven species

this is an ocelot one of seven species

this is an ocelot one of seven species of cat in marnie I think I took nine

of cat in marnie I think I took nine

of cat in marnie I think I took nine camera traps for three months and got

camera traps for three months and got

camera traps for three months and got one photo

one photo

one photo I’m clearly not doing very well anyway

I’m clearly not doing very well anyway

I’m clearly not doing very well anyway so these are I guess what you imagine

so these are I guess what you imagine

so these are I guess what you imagine when you think of people of the forest

when you think of people of the forest

when you think of people of the forest these are I guess what slightly miss

these are I guess what slightly miss

these are I guess what slightly miss correctly termed uncontacted mash capiro

correctly termed uncontacted mash capiro

correctly termed uncontacted mash capiro indians uncontacted in the sense that

indians uncontacted in the sense that

indians uncontacted in the sense that they have almost no contact with modern

they have almost no contact with modern

they have almost no contact with modern Western civilization I took this image

Western civilization I took this image

Western civilization I took this image traveling up through the southern

traveling up through the southern

traveling up through the southern southern part of mining on a boat one

southern part of mining on a boat one

southern part of mining on a boat one day and a group of these women were

day and a group of these women were

day and a group of these women were washing a baby in the river and most of

washing a baby in the river and most of

washing a baby in the river and most of them vanished into the forest and I you

them vanished into the forest and I you

them vanished into the forest and I you know we you’re not allowed to stop so we

know we you’re not allowed to stop so we

know we you’re not allowed to stop so we carried the boat on you’re not allowed

carried the boat on you’re not allowed

carried the boat on you’re not allowed to communicate with them you know

to communicate with them you know

to communicate with them you know certainly not allowed to go and talk to

certainly not allowed to go and talk to

certainly not allowed to go and talk to them or or you know get close to them

them or or you know get close to them

them or or you know get close to them because we could very easily give them

because we could very easily give them

because we could very easily give them flu virus and they could wipe out an

flu virus and they could wipe out an

flu virus and they could wipe out an entire population this particular group

entire population this particular group

entire population this particular group are one of they think around 800

are one of they think around 800

are one of they think around 800 uncontacted people living in Manya at

uncontacted people living in Manya at

uncontacted people living in Manya at the moment they’ve been more visible in

the moment they’ve been more visible in

the moment they’ve been more visible in since about 2011 coming out into the you

since about 2011 coming out into the you

since about 2011 coming out into the you know an area on the southern end of Manu

know an area on the southern end of Manu

know an area on the southern end of Manu they’ve killed two people so it’s

they’ve killed two people so it’s

they’ve killed two people so it’s there’s a slow process to come into

there’s a slow process to come into

there’s a slow process to come into contact with them last summer I went

contact with them last summer I went

contact with them last summer I went into Manu to shoot a story for the

into Manu to shoot a story for the

into Manu to shoot a story for the magazine I went to live with a magic

magazine I went to live with a magic

magazine I went to live with a magic younger people and they’re the most sort

younger people and they’re the most sort

younger people and they’re the most sort of numerous of the indigenous people

of numerous of the indigenous people

of numerous of the indigenous people that live in money these people are

that live in money these people are

that live in money these people are hunter-gatherers still I took this photo

hunter-gatherers still I took this photo

hunter-gatherers still I took this photo from a plane this is what you call a

from a plane this is what you call a

from a plane this is what you call a first contact heart these people are

first contact heart these people are

first contact heart these people are living in the early stages of contact

living in the early stages of contact

living in the early stages of contact with the outside world so they’re very

with the outside world so they’re very

with the outside world so they’re very remote I think this was 23 miles by

remote I think this was 23 miles by

remote I think this was 23 miles by plane from the nearest village these

plane from the nearest village these

plane from the nearest village these people are they’re really going to only

people are they’re really going to only

people are they’re really going to only see people from that village maybe once

see people from that village maybe once

see people from that village maybe once a year maybe do a bit of trading and

a year maybe do a bit of trading and

a year maybe do a bit of trading and then I went to stay in a very remote

then I went to stay in a very remote

then I went to stay in a very remote community in the middle of mining which

community in the middle of mining which

community in the middle of mining which no one’s allowed in to really have to

no one’s allowed in to really have to

no one’s allowed in to really have to get special permissions I met this

get special permissions I met this

get special permissions I met this family these people were about two weeks

family these people were about two weeks

family these people were about two weeks in contact they come down from the

in contact they come down from the

in contact they come down from the headwaters of the marnie River and these

headwaters of the marnie River and these

headwaters of the marnie River and these people have always just lived very

people have always just lived very

people have always just lived very isolated in a tiny community they’d

isolated in a tiny community they’d

isolated in a tiny community they’d never been to the big community village

never been to the big community village

never been to the big community village called yung Roboto where I was this was

called yung Roboto where I was this was

called yung Roboto where I was this was their first trip there so the villages

their first trip there so the villages

their first trip there so the villages they you know refer to them as the

they you know refer to them as the

they you know refer to them as the uncontacted people and they’d come there

uncontacted people and they’d come there

uncontacted people and they’d come there and they’d get machetes

and they’d get machetes

and they’d get machetes you know stoned out through metal tools

you know stoned out through metal tools

you know stoned out through metal tools which should join the most important

which should join the most important

which should join the most important thing in the world to them so it was

thing in the world to them so it was

thing in the world to them so it was really interesting meeting them and

really interesting meeting them and

really interesting meeting them and photographing them and as a photographer

photographing them and as a photographer

photographing them and as a photographer you want to go and hang out and shoot

you want to go and hang out and shoot

you want to go and hang out and shoot people as they are and shoot them

people as they are and shoot them

people as they are and shoot them relaxing and you know really you don’t

relaxing and you know really you don’t

relaxing and you know really you don’t you want to be invisible but with these

you want to be invisible but with these

you want to be invisible but with these guys that was impossible I said to them

guys that was impossible I said to them

guys that was impossible I said to them have you ever seen a white guy before

have you ever seen a white guy before

have you ever seen a white guy before they said we’ve never seen a non-magic

they said we’ve never seen a non-magic

they said we’ve never seen a non-magic anger Indian before they didn’t change

anger Indian before they didn’t change

anger Indian before they didn’t change their expression at all for the entire

their expression at all for the entire

their expression at all for the entire time I was there they just stared at me

time I was there they just stared at me

time I was there they just stared at me they’re totally underwhelmed by the

they’re totally underwhelmed by the

they’re totally underwhelmed by the entire experience as well as I think not

entire experience as well as I think not

entire experience as well as I think not is amazing he isn’t Wow

is amazing he isn’t Wow

is amazing he isn’t Wow so I posed them you know I arranged them

so I posed them you know I arranged them

so I posed them you know I arranged them and trying and photographing because all

and trying and photographing because all

and trying and photographing because all I could do with them but I kind of liked

I could do with them but I kind of liked

I could do with them but I kind of liked the portraits through again and I lived

the portraits through again and I lived

the portraits through again and I lived in the community one of the things I

in the community one of the things I

in the community one of the things I like to do I mean in the Amazon it’s

like to do I mean in the Amazon it’s

like to do I mean in the Amazon it’s just bust all the myths I don’t want all

just bust all the myths I don’t want all

just bust all the myths I don’t want all this nonsense this a romantic image we

this nonsense this a romantic image we

this nonsense this a romantic image we have of indigenous people they’re just

have of indigenous people they’re just

have of indigenous people they’re just people and they their culture is

people and they their culture is

people and they their culture is fascinating and everything else but they

fascinating and everything else but they

fascinating and everything else but they are just people and we tend to we tend

are just people and we tend to we tend

are just people and we tend to we tend to over blow that a bit I went on the

to over blow that a bit I went on the

to over blow that a bit I went on the school swimming lesson and the teacher

school swimming lesson and the teacher

school swimming lesson and the teacher to all the cliff she put like 30 kids in

to all the cliff she put like 30 kids in

to all the cliff she put like 30 kids in a boat she directed everyone with this

a boat she directed everyone with this

a boat she directed everyone with this enormous carving knife she crossed the

enormous carving knife she crossed the

enormous carving knife she crossed the river got out of the boat and then just

river got out of the boat and then just

river got out of the boat and then just buggered off into the forest on her own

buggered off into the forest on her own

buggered off into the forest on her own to cut guavas or something and all the

to cut guavas or something and all the

to cut guavas or something and all the kids just went swimming I was the

kids just went swimming I was the

kids just went swimming I was the swimming lesson I thought this is the

swimming lesson I thought this is the

swimming lesson I thought this is the way to live isn’t it

way to live isn’t it

way to live isn’t it this is Yoanna every day she would walk

this is Yoanna every day she would walk

this is Yoanna every day she would walk past our camp with her Saddleback

past our camp with her Saddleback

past our camp with her Saddleback tamarin which is a gremlin on her head

tamarin which is a gremlin on her head

tamarin which is a gremlin on her head and that was her toy and she take it

and that was her toy and she take it

and that was her toy and she take it swimming it it just absolutely hated

swimming it it just absolutely hated

swimming it it just absolutely hated water it was just this protracted awful

water it was just this protracted awful

water it was just this protracted awful experience for it going in the water

experience for it going in the water

experience for it going in the water and all it wants to do is get into a

and all it wants to do is get into a

and all it wants to do is get into a head so I said can I take your picture

head so I said can I take your picture

head so I said can I take your picture she won she was right you know whatever

she won she was right you know whatever

she won she was right you know whatever so for three days I just I took every

so for three days I just I took every

so for three days I just I took every day but yoni went swimming take this

day but yoni went swimming take this

day but yoni went swimming take this picture of her with this thing on her

picture of her with this thing on her

picture of her with this thing on her head this is eventually one hand you

head this is eventually one hand you

head this is eventually one hand you know and her story is very sad I know

know and her story is very sad I know

know and her story is very sad I know and bring it down on it but I’ll tell

and bring it down on it but I’ll tell

and bring it down on it but I’ll tell you her story after this picture was

you her story after this picture was

you her story after this picture was taken the monkey died on a pot of

taken the monkey died on a pot of

taken the monkey died on a pot of boiling water fell on it her mum died in

boiling water fell on it her mum died in

boiling water fell on it her mum died in childbirth she now wanders around with

childbirth she now wanders around with

childbirth she now wanders around with her sister who’s called Grace Kelly no

her sister who’s called Grace Kelly no

her sister who’s called Grace Kelly no idea why and she’s you can see in this

idea why and she’s you can see in this

idea why and she’s you can see in this picture she’s got so many headlight so

picture she’s got so many headlight so

picture she’s got so many headlight so she shaved all their head off so just

she shaved all their head off so just

she shaved all their head off so just you know just in a few months and so to

you know just in a few months and so to

you know just in a few months and so to this picture her entire life and world

this picture her entire life and world

this picture her entire life and world is completely changed ah how I’d

is completely changed ah how I’d

is completely changed ah how I’d photograph the education system you know

photograph the education system you know

photograph the education system you know this is a story about how indigenous

this is a story about how indigenous

this is a story about how indigenous group of people live in a national park

group of people live in a national park

group of people live in a national park whether they have health care and

whether they have health care and

whether they have health care and education everything they should have so

education everything they should have so

education everything they should have so I wanted to photograph that and this

I wanted to photograph that and this

I wanted to photograph that and this photo and this picture as well yeah

photo and this picture as well yeah

photo and this picture as well yeah reason I like these pictures because

reason I like these pictures because

reason I like these pictures because we’ll you know we was going to look at

we’ll you know we was going to look at

we’ll you know we was going to look at these places to see how different we are

these places to see how different we are

these places to see how different we are and what they gets me about these those

and what they gets me about these those

and what they gets me about these those two pictures actually what Rosa has

two pictures actually what Rosa has

two pictures actually what Rosa has similar we are you know my kids do stuff

similar we are you know my kids do stuff

similar we are you know my kids do stuff like this this is the wisest man I’ve

like this this is the wisest man I’ve

like this this is the wisest man I’ve ever met

ever met

ever met he’s called Don Alberto’s a shaming and

he’s called Don Alberto’s a shaming and

he’s called Don Alberto’s a shaming and he blew my head off with the most

he blew my head off with the most

he blew my head off with the most powerful hallucinogen known to man which

powerful hallucinogen known to man which

powerful hallucinogen known to man which is probably why I’m draining so much in

is probably why I’m draining so much in

is probably why I’m draining so much in that fish why didn’t have any form of

that fish why didn’t have any form of

that fish why didn’t have any form of spiritual connection with the rainforest

spiritual connection with the rainforest

spiritual connection with the rainforest because I have a spiritual connection

because I have a spiritual connection

because I have a spiritual connection with anything I am the least spiritual

with anything I am the least spiritual

with anything I am the least spiritual person in world so us all right I’ll be

person in world so us all right I’ll be

person in world so us all right I’ll be open-minded

open-minded

open-minded blow my head off let’s see where we go

blow my head off let’s see where we go

blow my head off let’s see where we go over this and he did

according to Western science ayahuasca

according to Western science ayahuasca activates parahippocampal areas of the

activates parahippocampal areas of the

activates parahippocampal areas of the brain that are involved in processing

brain that are involved in processing

brain that are involved in processing emotion and memory Don Alberto describes

emotion and memory Don Alberto describes

emotion and memory Don Alberto describes how forest spirits will talk to Charlie

how forest spirits will talk to Charlie

how forest spirits will talk to Charlie in a dream and show him his true path

snakes wasps spiders crocodiles there

snakes wasps spiders crocodiles there were a lot of animals in the divisions

were a lot of animals in the divisions

were a lot of animals in the divisions but the only ones giving me messages

but the only ones giving me messages

but the only ones giving me messages were actually the rainforest animals

whatever he did it worked it really

whatever he did it worked it really worked well I want to do go on a journey

worked well I want to do go on a journey

worked well I want to do go on a journey to discover more about the forest and it

to discover more about the forest and it

to discover more about the forest and it irritatingly was about me

the understanding of myself and being

the understanding of myself and being given this understanding by the

given this understanding by the

given this understanding by the creatures of the forest was the most

creatures of the forest was the most

creatures of the forest was the most enlightening and profound experience

enlightening and profound experience

enlightening and profound experience I’ve ever had it absolutely blew me away

I’ve ever had it absolutely blew me away

I’ve ever had it absolutely blew me away so then yeah a few years later do I feel

so then yeah a few years later do I feel

so then yeah a few years later do I feel the same no I just feel more confused

the same no I just feel more confused

the same no I just feel more confused about spirituality than I was before but

about spirituality than I was before but

about spirituality than I was before but I did see this the forest spirits in my

I did see this the forest spirits in my

I did see this the forest spirits in my in my visions and the I was out for

in my visions and the I was out for

in my visions and the I was out for three hours I saw a world made of toffee

three hours I saw a world made of toffee

three hours I saw a world made of toffee Lego at one point I saw all kinds of

Lego at one point I saw all kinds of

Lego at one point I saw all kinds of stuff at a whole world of nice frogs on

stuff at a whole world of nice frogs on

stuff at a whole world of nice frogs on that side and nasty frogs on that side I

that side and nasty frogs on that side I

that side and nasty frogs on that side I was kind of rolling but and then I was

was kind of rolling but and then I was

was kind of rolling but and then I was they were filming me as you saw and

they were filming me as you saw and

they were filming me as you saw and everything when they talked to me what

everything when they talked to me what

everything when they talked to me what because you’re sort of you you have a

because you’re sort of you you have a

because you’re sort of you you have a conscious level as well so talking and I

conscious level as well so talking and I

conscious level as well so talking and I was watching these blue words coming out

was watching these blue words coming out

was watching these blue words coming out of my mouth and going into the lens and

of my mouth and going into the lens and

of my mouth and going into the lens and at one point I was flying over the

at one point I was flying over the

at one point I was flying over the Shetland Islands looking down on it it

Shetland Islands looking down on it it

Shetland Islands looking down on it it was it was crazy

was it was crazy

was it was crazy one thing about ayahuasca that drug I’ve

one thing about ayahuasca that drug I’ve

one thing about ayahuasca that drug I’ve got to tell you right it’s made out of a

got to tell you right it’s made out of a

got to tell you right it’s made out of a vine they pound this vine and they mix

vine they pound this vine and they mix

vine they pound this vine and they mix it with a leaf right if you just treated

it with a leaf right if you just treated

it with a leaf right if you just treated it and you boil it for like a day this

it and you boil it for like a day this

it and you boil it for like a day this pounded vine and if you drink it does

pounded vine and if you drink it does

pounded vine and if you drink it does nothing you have to mix it with a

nothing you have to mix it with a

nothing you have to mix it with a specific species of leaf in order for

specific species of leaf in order for

specific species of leaf in order for your body it’s really metabolizing for

your body it’s really metabolizing for

your body it’s really metabolizing for it to do its thing well that’s great the

it to do its thing well that’s great the

it to do its thing well that’s great the 17,000 species of wooded plant there how

17,000 species of wooded plant there how

17,000 species of wooded plant there how did they figure that out that always

did they figure that out that always

did they figure that out that always just blows my mind how did they figure

just blows my mind how did they figure

just blows my mind how did they figure town that up boil it for a day yeah they

town that up boil it for a day yeah they

town that up boil it for a day yeah they have Jamie Oliver or the Barefoot

have Jamie Oliver or the Barefoot

have Jamie Oliver or the Barefoot Contessa do they put those leaves in it

Contessa do they put those leaves in it

Contessa do they put those leaves in it mix-ups gonna blow your head off mind

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