
I saw a video once and it showed that the house of the future TV set in the
the house of the future TV set in the
the house of the future TV set in the refrigerator TV set in the counter TV
refrigerator TV set in the counter TV
refrigerator TV set in the counter TV set everywhere you know controls for
set everywhere you know controls for
set everywhere you know controls for this for that there I thought oh this is
this for that there I thought oh this is
this for that there I thought oh this is you’d have to have you haven’t
you’d have to have you haven’t
you’d have to have you haven’t have another room the house for the
have another room the house for the
have another room the house for the repairman because he’d always be fixing
repairman because he’d always be fixing
repairman because he’d always be fixing this stuff a third of the people fix
this stuff a third of the people fix
this stuff a third of the people fix everything they don’t believe in throw
everything they don’t believe in throw
everything they don’t believe in throw things away that’s our base and then
things away that’s our base and then
things away that’s our base and then there’s another third that thinks
there’s another third that thinks
there’s another third that thinks everything new is better in the middle
everything new is better in the middle
everything new is better in the middle are people that can go either way and so
are people that can go either way and so
are people that can go either way and so it’s always this battle between these
it’s always this battle between these
it’s always this battle between these these three groups of people we get a
these three groups of people we get a
these three groups of people we get a lot of older electronics in you know
lot of older electronics in you know
lot of older electronics in you know stereos from the 60s tube TV sets tube
stereos from the 60s tube TV sets tube
stereos from the 60s tube TV sets tube radios a lot of people are very thankful
radios a lot of people are very thankful
radios a lot of people are very thankful this somebody can do stuff like that
this somebody can do stuff like that
this somebody can do stuff like that otherwise they gotta keep buying
otherwise they gotta keep buying
otherwise they gotta keep buying something new my art is based on found
something new my art is based on found
something new my art is based on found objects and I pick up stuff that people
objects and I pick up stuff that people
objects and I pick up stuff that people bring us here and I get all kinds of
bring us here and I get all kinds of
bring us here and I get all kinds of stuff that I use in my work I use
stuff that I use in my work I use
stuff that I use in my work I use electronic parts I’ve been using that in
electronic parts I’ve been using that in
electronic parts I’ve been using that in my earliest pieces whatever works in a
my earliest pieces whatever works in a
my earliest pieces whatever works in a piece I’ll use
my work is California assemblage is the
my work is California assemblage is the word I like there’s lots of different
word I like there’s lots of different
word I like there’s lots of different words found objects sculpture by
words found objects sculpture by
words found objects sculpture by addition but for me California
addition but for me California
addition but for me California assemblage fits the best
I started working as an artist in 1962
I started working as an artist in 1962 my father was a machinist and he’d bring
my father was a machinist and he’d bring
my father was a machinist and he’d bring home all kinds of metals and things that
home all kinds of metals and things that
home all kinds of metals and things that scrap you know and I started putting
scrap you know and I started putting
scrap you know and I started putting things together and then I had the idea
things together and then I had the idea
things together and then I had the idea that an artwork should look back out at
that an artwork should look back out at
that an artwork should look back out at you you know what would that be and so I
you you know what would that be and so I
you you know what would that be and so I put a ball in and hooked it up to this
put a ball in and hooked it up to this
put a ball in and hooked it up to this Volkswagen wiper motor and an oil
Volkswagen wiper motor and an oil
Volkswagen wiper motor and an oil derrick there and that helped make the
derrick there and that helped make the
derrick there and that helped make the eyeball open up that ended up being my
eyeball open up that ended up being my
eyeball open up that ended up being my very first sculpture and I named it the
very first sculpture and I named it the
very first sculpture and I named it the protists I guess I liked just working
protists I guess I liked just working
protists I guess I liked just working with objects I didn’t even realize that
with objects I didn’t even realize that
with objects I didn’t even realize that it was really art I was just having fun
it was really art I was just having fun
it was really art I was just having fun playing with these things
you can make art and the living off
you can make art and the living off doing this stuff you know this is art
doing this stuff you know this is art
doing this stuff you know this is art listen just the paintings and drawings
listen just the paintings and drawings
listen just the paintings and drawings that he’s doing it’s sculpture I spent a
that he’s doing it’s sculpture I spent a
that he’s doing it’s sculpture I spent a lot of time trying to get galleries
lot of time trying to get galleries
lot of time trying to get galleries attention
attention
attention I took the hundred dollar bill I put it
I took the hundred dollar bill I put it
I took the hundred dollar bill I put it behind glass but a frame attached a
behind glass but a frame attached a
behind glass but a frame attached a hammer to it and wood lettering on it I
hammer to it and wood lettering on it I
hammer to it and wood lettering on it I put in case of emergency and I sent this
put in case of emergency and I sent this
put in case of emergency and I sent this off to a local art gallery and I get a
off to a local art gallery and I get a
off to a local art gallery and I get a letter back saying oh well we had a lot
letter back saying oh well we had a lot
letter back saying oh well we had a lot of fun with the piece we broke the glass
of fun with the piece we broke the glass
of fun with the piece we broke the glass we divided the hundred dollars amongst
we divided the hundred dollars amongst
we divided the hundred dollars amongst ourselves and then we threw everything
ourselves and then we threw everything
ourselves and then we threw everything in the trash can but we kept the hammer
in the trash can but we kept the hammer
in the trash can but we kept the hammer because you can never have too many
because you can never have too many
because you can never have too many Hanover’s in a in our art gallery I
Hanover’s in a in our art gallery I
Hanover’s in a in our art gallery I realized later I should assign the
realized later I should assign the
realized later I should assign the hammer at least I would have had a piece
hammer at least I would have had a piece
hammer at least I would have had a piece in art gallery some artists that make
in art gallery some artists that make
in art gallery some artists that make the same thing for ten years the same
the same thing for ten years the same
the same thing for ten years the same piece a variation over and over and over
piece a variation over and over and over
piece a variation over and over and over and I thought when I started that’s what
and I thought when I started that’s what
and I thought when I started that’s what I had to do and so he did several like
I had to do and so he did several like
I had to do and so he did several like that and by the fifth one I said that’s
that and by the fifth one I said that’s
that and by the fifth one I said that’s it I can’t do this I want to do
it I can’t do this I want to do
it I can’t do this I want to do something differently and so they took
something differently and so they took
something differently and so they took off in my own direction I mean I want to
off in my own direction I mean I want to
off in my own direction I mean I want to do something different I want to play
do something different I want to play
do something different I want to play with different materials I mean I’ve
with different materials I mean I’ve
with different materials I mean I’ve used concrete I use nails I use cement
used concrete I use nails I use cement
used concrete I use nails I use cement the spaghetti up there I mean I I like
the spaghetti up there I mean I I like
the spaghetti up there I mean I I like to work with different stuff one of the
to work with different stuff one of the
to work with different stuff one of the most difficult pieces was a rendition of
most difficult pieces was a rendition of
most difficult pieces was a rendition of van Gogh’s Starry Night with nails to
van Gogh’s Starry Night with nails to
van Gogh’s Starry Night with nails to figure out how to take that painting and
figure out how to take that painting and
figure out how to take that painting and render it with nails was was quite a
render it with nails was was quite a
render it with nails was was quite a feat
feat
feat that piece took a 135 hours to build the
that piece took a 135 hours to build the
that piece took a 135 hours to build the Spruce Goose took 500 hours
and the erector set piece of lost count
and the erector set piece of lost count I had gone to this antique store and I
I had gone to this antique store and I
I had gone to this antique store and I saw the rector set down there and I said
saw the rector set down there and I said
saw the rector set down there and I said well how much for that he’s 125 that’s
well how much for that he’s 125 that’s
well how much for that he’s 125 that’s okay great I didn’t realize there was 13
okay great I didn’t realize there was 13
okay great I didn’t realize there was 13 of them he starts pulling one out and
of them he starts pulling one out and
of them he starts pulling one out and another out and another one out it’s
another out and another one out it’s
another out and another one out it’s it’s massive so I made all these little
it’s massive so I made all these little
it’s massive so I made all these little elements that move that you could do
elements that move that you could do
elements that move that you could do with this with these toys and I’ve been
with this with these toys and I’ve been
with this with these toys and I’ve been working on that piece for off and on now
working on that piece for off and on now
working on that piece for off and on now for 20 years it’s just the biggest
for 20 years it’s just the biggest
for 20 years it’s just the biggest massive piece I’ve ever made it’s
massive piece I’ve ever made it’s
massive piece I’ve ever made it’s important for me to sell my work
important for me to sell my work
important for me to sell my work especially now because the store what
especially now because the store what
especially now because the store what that is supported it’s getting tougher
that is supported it’s getting tougher
that is supported it’s getting tougher and tougher to survive now more never I
and tougher to survive now more never I
and tougher to survive now more never I really have to cut back on certain
really have to cut back on certain
really have to cut back on certain pieces I like to do because I don’t have
pieces I like to do because I don’t have
pieces I like to do because I don’t have the money to do them
the money to do them
the money to do them I sometimes think that van Gogh had
I sometimes think that van Gogh had
I sometimes think that van Gogh had pretty easy yet somebody gets somebody
pretty easy yet somebody gets somebody
pretty easy yet somebody gets somebody sending him money rents were cheap you
sending him money rents were cheap you
sending him money rents were cheap you know he he went nuts and went into the
know he he went nuts and went into the
know he he went nuts and went into the asylum I’m thinking who paid for that I
asylum I’m thinking who paid for that I
asylum I’m thinking who paid for that I mean today if you went in an asylum
mean today if you went in an asylum
mean today if you went in an asylum you’d be bankrupt when you came out I
you’d be bankrupt when you came out I
you’d be bankrupt when you came out I mean how I mean I can’t go nuts I mean I
mean how I mean I can’t go nuts I mean I
mean how I mean I can’t go nuts I mean I can’t afford it it’s a real shame to
can’t afford it it’s a real shame to
can’t afford it it’s a real shame to throw something away that has just the
throw something away that has just the
throw something away that has just the loose ribbon cable or small parts and
loose ribbon cable or small parts and
loose ribbon cable or small parts and the power supply since things are being
the power supply since things are being
the power supply since things are being made more cheaply sometimes people just
made more cheaply sometimes people just
made more cheaply sometimes people just go buy a new one and don’t get it fixed
go buy a new one and don’t get it fixed
go buy a new one and don’t get it fixed somebody else came buyer of a writer and
somebody else came buyer of a writer and
somebody else came buyer of a writer and he says it’d be shame to break up this
he says it’d be shame to break up this
he says it’d be shame to break up this collection he says what if somebody
collection he says what if somebody
collection he says what if somebody bought the whole thing yeah that’s a
bought the whole thing yeah that’s a
bought the whole thing yeah that’s a great 1900 and keep it together one sale
great 1900 and keep it together one sale
great 1900 and keep it together one sale be beautiful
when I make art I don’t feel anything I
when I make art I don’t feel anything I mean I’m just that’s my vacation I get
mean I’m just that’s my vacation I get
mean I’m just that’s my vacation I get to have a vacation every every weekend I
can relax and it wasn’t for that I mean
can relax and it wasn’t for that I mean why what’s the point
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