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national Geographics relationship with

national Geographics relationship with photography and Peru are all intertwined

photography and Peru are all intertwined

photography and Peru are all intertwined all of Peru

all of Peru

all of Peru unbelievable country of mysteries and

unbelievable country of mysteries and

unbelievable country of mysteries and surprises this is definitely one of the

surprises this is definitely one of the

surprises this is definitely one of the centers of civilization it’s really

centers of civilization it’s really

centers of civilization it’s really incredible to be able to look into the

incredible to be able to look into the

incredible to be able to look into the eyes of an ancient ruler this is the

eyes of an ancient ruler this is the

eyes of an ancient ruler this is the power of archaeology

thank you all for being here I want to

thank you all for being here I want to talk to you a little bit about being a

talk to you a little bit about being a

talk to you a little bit about being a representative of National Geographic

representative of National Geographic

representative of National Geographic and working in these great civilizations

and working in these great civilizations

and working in these great civilizations and I like to bring storytelling to

and I like to bring storytelling to

and I like to bring storytelling to these and I like to tell stories about

these and I like to tell stories about

these and I like to tell stories about heroes national Geographics relationship

heroes national Geographics relationship

heroes national Geographics relationship with photography and Peru are all

with photography and Peru are all

with photography and Peru are all intertwined and I want to tell you that

intertwined and I want to tell you that

intertwined and I want to tell you that little story and I actually want to

little story and I actually want to

little story and I actually want to start by telling you a little bit about

start by telling you a little bit about

start by telling you a little bit about Peru it’s extraordinarily photogenic

Peru it’s extraordinarily photogenic

Peru it’s extraordinarily photogenic this is a photograph by Hiram Bingham

this is a photograph by Hiram Bingham

this is a photograph by Hiram Bingham who documented the high mountains of

who documented the high mountains of

who documented the high mountains of Peru and this is really what makes Peru

Peru and this is really what makes Peru

Peru and this is really what makes Peru one of the great centers of civilization

one of the great centers of civilization

one of the great centers of civilization is its geography the high mountains the

is its geography the high mountains the

is its geography the high mountains the beautiful rich valleys between the

beautiful rich valleys between the

beautiful rich valleys between the mountains and the coast the coastal

mountains and the coast the coastal

mountains and the coast the coastal deserts which were once described in the

deserts which were once described in the

deserts which were once described in the pages of National Geographic as being

pages of National Geographic as being

pages of National Geographic as being small Nile Delta’s and in fact unlike

small Nile Delta’s and in fact unlike

small Nile Delta’s and in fact unlike Egypt that has one Nile River northern

Egypt that has one Nile River northern

Egypt that has one Nile River northern Peru has 20 of these Delta’s it’s

Peru has 20 of these Delta’s it’s

Peru has 20 of these Delta’s it’s unbelievable you can have one foot in

unbelievable you can have one foot in

unbelievable you can have one foot in the Fertile Delta and one foot in the

the Fertile Delta and one foot in the

the Fertile Delta and one foot in the desert this is makes it an extraordinary

desert this is makes it an extraordinary

desert this is makes it an extraordinary place for preservation and creation of

place for preservation and creation of

place for preservation and creation of ancient civilization it’s a place where

ancient civilization it’s a place where

ancient civilization it’s a place where archaeological sites tower above the

archaeological sites tower above the

archaeological sites tower above the countryside this particular mound that

countryside this particular mound that

countryside this particular mound that you see in the front is actually a

you see in the front is actually a

you see in the front is actually a Peruvian pyramid here’s an example of

Peruvian pyramid here’s an example of

Peruvian pyramid here’s an example of what one could imagine that looked like

what one could imagine that looked like

what one could imagine that looked like in the past there are 20 such river

in the past there are 20 such river

in the past there are 20 such river valleys in northern Peru it’s an

valleys in northern Peru it’s an

valleys in northern Peru it’s an outstanding unbelievable relationship

outstanding unbelievable relationship

outstanding unbelievable relationship and much of it has to do with the fact

and much of it has to do with the fact

and much of it has to do with the fact that it is one of the largest most

that it is one of the largest most

that it is one of the largest most productive coasts along the Pacific

productive coasts along the Pacific

productive coasts along the Pacific coast of the new world is unbelievable

coast of the new world is unbelievable

coast of the new world is unbelievable culture unbelievable country and it’s

culture unbelievable country and it’s

culture unbelievable country and it’s that geographic relationship that we

that geographic relationship that we

that geographic relationship that we like to explain helps explain how Peru

like to explain helps explain how Peru

like to explain helps explain how Peru is a country that can both be described

is a country that can both be described

is a country that can both be described as having over 10,000 archaeological

as having over 10,000 archaeological

as having over 10,000 archaeological sites or as I like to say there’s only

sites or as I like to say there’s only

sites or as I like to say there’s only one site in Peru all of Peru I mean it

one site in Peru all of Peru I mean it

one site in Peru all of Peru I mean it is really you walk the Inca Trail and

is really you walk the Inca Trail and

is really you walk the Inca Trail and you really can’t tell when you’re on a

you really can’t tell when you’re on a

you really can’t tell when you’re on a site and off the site the entire country

site and off the site the entire country

site and off the site the entire country from the north coast of

from the north coast of

from the north coast of the south coast from east to west it’s

the south coast from east to west it’s

the south coast from east to west it’s unbelievable country of mysteries and

unbelievable country of mysteries and

unbelievable country of mysteries and surprises now I’m actually going to

surprises now I’m actually going to

surprises now I’m actually going to start telling the story a little bit

start telling the story a little bit

start telling the story a little bit before the founding of National

before the founding of National

before the founding of National Geographic because so many travelers and

Geographic because so many travelers and

Geographic because so many travelers and adventures have been attracted to Peru

adventures have been attracted to Peru

adventures have been attracted to Peru it’s sort of mysterious and wonderful

it’s sort of mysterious and wonderful

it’s sort of mysterious and wonderful it’s been attracting people for hundreds

it’s been attracting people for hundreds

it’s been attracting people for hundreds of years and it’s history goes back more

of years and it’s history goes back more

of years and it’s history goes back more than 3,000 years it has separate

than 3,000 years it has separate

than 3,000 years it has separate cultural traditions on the north coast

cultural traditions on the north coast

cultural traditions on the north coast the highlands and the south coast it’s

the highlands and the south coast it’s

the highlands and the south coast it’s really phenomenal I have to take my hats

really phenomenal I have to take my hats

really phenomenal I have to take my hats off to yet another set of incredible

off to yet another set of incredible

off to yet another set of incredible heroes Julio Te’o

heroes Julio Te’o

heroes Julio Te’o the father of Peruvian archaeologists he

the father of Peruvian archaeologists he

the father of Peruvian archaeologists he was from the highlands and he really

was from the highlands and he really

was from the highlands and he really introduced the idea of Indian

introduced the idea of Indian

introduced the idea of Indian civilization he began to study the

civilization he began to study the

civilization he began to study the cultures of ancient Peru he’s one of the

cultures of ancient Peru he’s one of the

cultures of ancient Peru he’s one of the first researchers to come up with that

first researchers to come up with that

first researchers to come up with that chronology and he had a partner Rafael

chronology and he had a partner Rafael

chronology and he had a partner Rafael lark oh these two guys they kind of

lark oh these two guys they kind of

lark oh these two guys they kind of fought over where the heart and soul of

fought over where the heart and soul of

fought over where the heart and soul of Peru lay you had a tale who was from the

Peru lay you had a tale who was from the

Peru lay you had a tale who was from the highlands who argued for temples and

highlands who argued for temples and

highlands who argued for temples and islands and you had largo who came from

islands and you had largo who came from

islands and you had largo who came from the coasts and uh no it’s the cool

the coasts and uh no it’s the cool

the coasts and uh no it’s the cool cultures and that debate continues to

cultures and that debate continues to

cultures and that debate continues to this day but we all were fascinated by

this day but we all were fascinated by

this day but we all were fascinated by the mystery and culture and we all

the mystery and culture and we all

the mystery and culture and we all thought that this site which tale worked

thought that this site which tale worked

thought that this site which tale worked at that Larco worked at the famous

at that Larco worked at the famous

at that Larco worked at the famous temple of chavin de huantar it was

temple of chavin de huantar it was

temple of chavin de huantar it was really the heart

really the heart

really the heart the essence of Andean civilization it

the essence of Andean civilization it

the essence of Andean civilization it was so important and it was so

was so important and it was so

was so important and it was so mysterious and so luxuries that it

mysterious and so luxuries that it

mysterious and so luxuries that it actually became my introduction to

actually became my introduction to

actually became my introduction to archaeology and my introduction to South

archaeology and my introduction to South

archaeology and my introduction to South America I have the chance to visit well

America I have the chance to visit well

America I have the chance to visit well ok it wasn’t last year all right so you

ok it wasn’t last year all right so you

ok it wasn’t last year all right so you know you’re looking at this statute you

know you’re looking at this statute you

know you’re looking at this statute you see this statue right it’s carved in

see this statue right it’s carved in

see this statue right it’s carved in beautiful 3,500 years oh oh and yeah I

beautiful 3,500 years oh oh and yeah I

beautiful 3,500 years oh oh and yeah I was a hippie once a little little while

was a hippie once a little little while

was a hippie once a little little while ago but that’s djebena wander what an

ago but that’s djebena wander what an

ago but that’s djebena wander what an introduction to South America what an

introduction to South America what an

introduction to South America what an introduction to Peru to go visit a place

introduction to Peru to go visit a place

introduction to Peru to go visit a place what a way to get in nor

what a way to get in nor

what a way to get in nor into the wonders of archeology it’s

into the wonders of archeology it’s

into the wonders of archeology it’s great and I became intrigued with the

great and I became intrigued with the

great and I became intrigued with the history of all this exploration in hula

history of all this exploration in hula

history of all this exploration in hula and went on and we all sort of looked

and went on and we all sort of looked

and went on and we all sort of looked even further back into the pages like

even further back into the pages like

even further back into the pages like who was exploring who was caught with

who was exploring who was caught with

who was exploring who was caught with this mystery and wonder of the

this mystery and wonder of the

this mystery and wonder of the archeology and culture and I became

archeology and culture and I became

archeology and culture and I became enamored with this particular fellow

enamored with this particular fellow

enamored with this particular fellow Ephraim Squire he was a wonderful

Ephraim Squire he was a wonderful

Ephraim Squire he was a wonderful Explorer for the US government and he

Explorer for the US government and he

Explorer for the US government and he was sent as the Commissioner to Peru by

was sent as the Commissioner to Peru by

was sent as the Commissioner to Peru by none other than Abraham Lincoln in the

none other than Abraham Lincoln in the

none other than Abraham Lincoln in the 1860s this is how far the history goes

1860s this is how far the history goes

1860s this is how far the history goes back in this and the wonderful story

back in this and the wonderful story

back in this and the wonderful story town and as commissioner he wrote this

town and as commissioner he wrote this

town and as commissioner he wrote this incredible book called the land of the

incredible book called the land of the

incredible book called the land of the Incas illustrated with 500 wood cuts

Incas illustrated with 500 wood cuts

Incas illustrated with 500 wood cuts really I mean it was the artistry the

really I mean it was the artistry the

really I mean it was the artistry the magnificence the wonder of this country

magnificence the wonder of this country

magnificence the wonder of this country that attracted people these wood cuts

that attracted people these wood cuts

that attracted people these wood cuts were known and reproduced I mean this

were known and reproduced I mean this

were known and reproduced I mean this was a very very popular book published

was a very very popular book published

was a very very popular book published in 1877 people were so desired I became

in 1877 people were so desired I became

in 1877 people were so desired I became fascinated because there was this

fascinated because there was this

fascinated because there was this photograph of Ephraim Squire and being

photograph of Ephraim Squire and being

photograph of Ephraim Squire and being here at National Geographic were

here at National Geographic were

here at National Geographic were naturally very interested in photographs

naturally very interested in photographs

naturally very interested in photographs but you know squired he made these

but you know squired he made these

but you know squired he made these incredible illustrations that would cuts

incredible illustrations that would cuts

incredible illustrations that would cuts in his book and we assumed that he must

in his book and we assumed that he must

in his book and we assumed that he must have had a photographic memory look at

have had a photographic memory look at

have had a photographic memory look at this bridge unbelievable you had to go

this bridge unbelievable you had to go

this bridge unbelievable you had to go to Peru to imagine that something like

to Peru to imagine that something like

to Peru to imagine that something like that was real it was so exciting for me

that was real it was so exciting for me

that was real it was so exciting for me to see you know in a no wood cut like

to see you know in a no wood cut like

to see you know in a no wood cut like this of Alta Peru which is today on the

this of Alta Peru which is today on the

this of Alta Peru which is today on the other side of Lake Titicaca but still

other side of Lake Titicaca but still

other side of Lake Titicaca but still part of this greater Peruvian can and I

part of this greater Peruvian can and I

part of this greater Peruvian can and I became quite curious being here at

became quite curious being here at

became quite curious being here at National Geographic

National Geographic

National Geographic how did somebody record something like

how did somebody record something like

how did somebody record something like this and it was only recently and I was

this and it was only recently and I was

this and it was only recently and I was so excited to be able to find the photo

so excited to be able to find the photo

so excited to be able to find the photo archives that were the basis for the 500

archives that were the basis for the 500

archives that were the basis for the 500 wood cuts in this it shows the

wood cuts in this it shows the

wood cuts in this it shows the relationship between photography and

relationship between photography and

relationship between photography and archaeology we have one of the great

archaeology we have one of the great

archaeology we have one of the great photographers of National Geographic

photographers of National Geographic

photographers of National Geographic Kenny Garrett who’s here who can attest

Kenny Garrett who’s here who can attest

Kenny Garrett who’s here who can attest to the fact that photographing in Peru

to the fact that photographing in Peru

to the fact that photographing in Peru is like photographing a wonderland it

is like photographing a wonderland it

is like photographing a wonderland it was amazing to see how you

was amazing to see how you

was amazing to see how you we produced the photographs here’s one

we produced the photographs here’s one

we produced the photographs here’s one of the wood cuts from 1877 and here’s

of the wood cuts from 1877 and here’s

of the wood cuts from 1877 and here’s one of the newly discovered photographs

one of the newly discovered photographs

one of the newly discovered photographs that Squire – he was not only an

that Squire – he was not only an

that Squire – he was not only an explorer he himself was a photographer I

explorer he himself was a photographer I

explorer he himself was a photographer I became intrigued with this aspect this

became intrigued with this aspect this

became intrigued with this aspect this relationship between photography and

relationship between photography and

relationship between photography and archaeology I think it’s critical to our

archaeology I think it’s critical to our

archaeology I think it’s critical to our understanding of the past

understanding of the past

understanding of the past not only in Peru in Central America in

not only in Peru in Central America in

not only in Peru in Central America in Egypt in Greece it’s so exciting and I

Egypt in Greece it’s so exciting and I

Egypt in Greece it’s so exciting and I became attracted to another one of the

became attracted to another one of the

became attracted to another one of the greatest photographers who ever crossed

greatest photographers who ever crossed

greatest photographers who ever crossed into Peru Hiram Bingham

into Peru Hiram Bingham

into Peru Hiram Bingham yes Hiram Bingham is known primarily for

yes Hiram Bingham is known primarily for

yes Hiram Bingham is known primarily for describing Machu Picchu but do people

describing Machu Picchu but do people

describing Machu Picchu but do people realize that he was an incredible

realize that he was an incredible

realize that he was an incredible photographer at that time 1911 and 1912

photographer at that time 1911 and 1912

photographer at that time 1911 and 1912 being director of an expedition meant

being director of an expedition meant

being director of an expedition meant that you were also the photography had

that you were also the photography had

that you were also the photography had this incredible camera created by Kodak

this incredible camera created by Kodak

this incredible camera created by Kodak for him and he took these pictures that

for him and he took these pictures that

for him and he took these pictures that were not just documentation but we’re

were not just documentation but we’re

were not just documentation but we’re art themselves and they were the first

art themselves and they were the first

art themselves and they were the first rock star archaeology project in

rock star archaeology project in

rock star archaeology project in National Geographic

National Geographic

National Geographic but his photographs really aren’t

but his photographs really aren’t

but his photographs really aren’t incredible we have about 2,000 of these

incredible we have about 2,000 of these

incredible we have about 2,000 of these photographs here in the photo archives

photographs here in the photo archives

photographs here in the photo archives and someday we’re going to do an

and someday we’re going to do an

and someday we’re going to do an exhibition of the photo archives here

exhibition of the photo archives here

exhibition of the photo archives here it’s just an incredible opportunity to

it’s just an incredible opportunity to

it’s just an incredible opportunity to work with people like Bill Bonner here

work with people like Bill Bonner here

work with people like Bill Bonner here in the photo archives and see exactly

in the photo archives and see exactly

in the photo archives and see exactly what what the the genius of photography

what what the the genius of photography

what what the the genius of photography is I mean if you look at this picture

is I mean if you look at this picture

is I mean if you look at this picture taken by Bingham of Machu Picchu with

taken by Bingham of Machu Picchu with

taken by Bingham of Machu Picchu with the mountains and the cloud and the

the mountains and the cloud and the

the mountains and the cloud and the local personality on the right hand I

local personality on the right hand I

local personality on the right hand I mean it just is such a story such a

mean it just is such a story such a

mean it just is such a story such a photographic essay in one picture it’s

photographic essay in one picture it’s

photographic essay in one picture it’s really very very inspirational he also

really very very inspirational he also

really very very inspirational he also documented the people of Peru and for me

documented the people of Peru and for me

documented the people of Peru and for me this is the real gift that Hiram Bingham

this is the real gift that Hiram Bingham

this is the real gift that Hiram Bingham gave to Peru which is a wonderful photo

gave to Peru which is a wonderful photo

gave to Peru which is a wonderful photo record of Peru and ancient Peru and the

record of Peru and ancient Peru and the

record of Peru and ancient Peru and the people of Peru all living together with

people of Peru all living together with

people of Peru all living together with an inspiration for cultural heritage but

an inspiration for cultural heritage but

an inspiration for cultural heritage but this isn’t the only time that we’ve

this isn’t the only time that we’ve

this isn’t the only time that we’ve photographed Peru in ancient Peru we’ve

photographed Peru in ancient Peru we’ve

photographed Peru in ancient Peru we’ve been at the forefront and if we

been at the forefront and if we

been at the forefront and if we fast-forward to really one of the first

fast-forward to really one of the first

fast-forward to really one of the first color photos of an archaeological

color photos of an archaeological

color photos of an archaeological Oh picture published in National

Oh picture published in National

Oh picture published in National Geographic magazine and of course came

Geographic magazine and of course came

Geographic magazine and of course came from Peru this is William Duncan strong

from Peru this is William Duncan strong

from Peru this is William Duncan strong who in 1946 came to Peru and after

who in 1946 came to Peru and after

who in 1946 came to Peru and after seeing all these wonderful artifacts

seeing all these wonderful artifacts

seeing all these wonderful artifacts came to in hopes of finding the first

came to in hopes of finding the first

came to in hopes of finding the first intact mochi barrel mochi is a northern

intact mochi barrel mochi is a northern

intact mochi barrel mochi is a northern coast period in Peru about 2,000 years

coast period in Peru about 2,000 years

coast period in Peru about 2,000 years old very mysterious only known from the

old very mysterious only known from the

old very mysterious only known from the artifacts and his intention was to come

artifacts and his intention was to come

artifacts and his intention was to come and document an intact barrier almost an

and document an intact barrier almost an

and document an intact barrier almost an impossible feat but they found one on

impossible feat but they found one on

impossible feat but they found one on the coast and to quote from the 1947

the coast and to quote from the 1947

the coast and to quote from the 1947 issue of the magazine a strong and Evans

issue of the magazine a strong and Evans

issue of the magazine a strong and Evans found this bear and everybody was so

found this bear and everybody was so

found this bear and everybody was so excited they’d never seen an intact

excited they’d never seen an intact

excited they’d never seen an intact burial from 2,000 years ago and said

burial from 2,000 years ago and said

burial from 2,000 years ago and said they opened it up and Evan said I’m

they opened it up and Evan said I’m

they opened it up and Evan said I’m hungry let’s have lunch

hungry let’s have lunch

hungry let’s have lunch yeah I’m tell you I love reading past

yeah I’m tell you I love reading past

yeah I’m tell you I love reading past national Geographics it’s really great

national Geographics it’s really great

national Geographics it’s really great and so all of his workmen were sitting

and so all of his workmen were sitting

and so all of his workmen were sitting there confused because they just found

there confused because they just found

there confused because they just found something that never been found before

something that never been found before

something that never been found before and the next picture which was published

and the next picture which was published

and the next picture which was published in the pages of National Geographic is

in the pages of National Geographic is

in the pages of National Geographic is the first time you’re looking inside of

the first time you’re looking inside of

the first time you’re looking inside of an intact mochi burial and I think that

an intact mochi burial and I think that

an intact mochi burial and I think that this is something that National

this is something that National

this is something that National Geographic has taken on as a cachet in

Geographic has taken on as a cachet in

Geographic has taken on as a cachet in terms of telling the stories of the

terms of telling the stories of the

terms of telling the stories of the ancient populations although this is a

ancient populations although this is a

ancient populations although this is a unique picture you know 12 pots that

unique picture you know 12 pots that

unique picture you know 12 pots that have never been seen together in situ

have never been seen together in situ

have never been seen together in situ this documentation went around the world

this documentation went around the world

this documentation went around the world in April 1947 these two people strong

in April 1947 these two people strong

in April 1947 these two people strong and Evans became a hero of mine as we

and Evans became a hero of mine as we

and Evans became a hero of mine as we pursued this past and here’s one of

pursued this past and here’s one of

pursued this past and here’s one of their color plates now these color

their color plates now these color

their color plates now these color plates had to be specially put into each

plates had to be specially put into each

plates had to be specially put into each one of the millions of copies of

one of the millions of copies of

one of the millions of copies of National Geographic magazine we have

National Geographic magazine we have

National Geographic magazine we have even more advances in photography

even more advances in photography

even more advances in photography archaeology and the understanding of

archaeology and the understanding of

archaeology and the understanding of ancient Peru 1988 another intact mochi

ancient Peru 1988 another intact mochi

ancient Peru 1988 another intact mochi burial from the north coast of Peru was

burial from the north coast of Peru was

burial from the north coast of Peru was found and they gave a call to walter

found and they gave a call to walter

found and they gave a call to walter alva to chris Donnan two researchers who

alva to chris Donnan two researchers who

alva to chris Donnan two researchers who were funded by National Geographic said

were funded by National Geographic said

were funded by National Geographic said please let’s go let’s go and we started

please let’s go let’s go and we started

please let’s go let’s go and we started to document this in a way that I don’t

to document this in a way that I don’t

to document this in a way that I don’t think

think

think theology has ever been documented before

theology has ever been documented before

theology has ever been documented before and this came out in a 1988 issue of the

and this came out in a 1988 issue of the

and this came out in a 1988 issue of the magazine which just happened to be on

magazine which just happened to be on

magazine which just happened to be on the hundredth anniversary of National

the hundredth anniversary of National

the hundredth anniversary of National Geographic I don’t know how that came

Geographic I don’t know how that came

Geographic I don’t know how that came about but I mean it’s really incredible

about but I mean it’s really incredible

about but I mean it’s really incredible in the first time to be able to look

in the first time to be able to look

in the first time to be able to look into the eyes of an ancient ruler of

into the eyes of an ancient ruler of

into the eyes of an ancient ruler of Peru and see the archaeologists at the

Peru and see the archaeologists at the

Peru and see the archaeologists at the same time and to come up with this new

same time and to come up with this new

same time and to come up with this new way to communicate not only through

way to communicate not only through

way to communicate not only through photographs but through these iconic

photographs but through these iconic

photographs but through these iconic drawings this instantly became the

drawings this instantly became the

drawings this instantly became the classic model for how archaeology is

classic model for how archaeology is

classic model for how archaeology is presented not only on the pages of

presented not only on the pages of

presented not only on the pages of National Geographic but in every

National Geographic but in every

National Geographic but in every textbook and all the way around the

textbook and all the way around the

textbook and all the way around the world I think it’s really kind of cool

world I think it’s really kind of cool

world I think it’s really kind of cool on the right-hand side you see the

on the right-hand side you see the

on the right-hand side you see the different layers from the original

different layers from the original

different layers from the original coffin box to the way the textiles were

coffin box to the way the textiles were

coffin box to the way the textiles were laid down to the way the artifacts were

laid down to the way the artifacts were

laid down to the way the artifacts were laid in to the way the body was put in

laid in to the way the body was put in

laid in to the way the body was put in everything done in exquisite scientific

everything done in exquisite scientific

everything done in exquisite scientific and artistic detail it became one of the

and artistic detail it became one of the

and artistic detail it became one of the caches of National Geographic and Peru

caches of National Geographic and Peru

caches of National Geographic and Peru these large-scale photographs this is I

these large-scale photographs this is I

these large-scale photographs this is I think the first time we had a centerfold

think the first time we had a centerfold

think the first time we had a centerfold in National Geographic this was a three

in National Geographic this was a three

in National Geographic this was a three page picture of this burial I don’t know

page picture of this burial I don’t know

page picture of this burial I don’t know how they took this picture in the in

how they took this picture in the in

how they took this picture in the in 1988 but it is so detailed and so

1988 but it is so detailed and so

1988 but it is so detailed and so incredible and what it is for us who are

incredible and what it is for us who are

incredible and what it is for us who are looking at the beautiful specimens in

looking at the beautiful specimens in

looking at the beautiful specimens in the museum’s of the and and the pieces

the museum’s of the and and the pieces

the museum’s of the and and the pieces that you’ve burrow and and the pieces

that you’ve burrow and and the pieces

that you’ve burrow and and the pieces that you see on display is it it really

that you see on display is it it really

that you see on display is it it really gives us a key it allows us to have an

gives us a key it allows us to have an

gives us a key it allows us to have an aha moment when you go back to the

aha moment when you go back to the

aha moment when you go back to the exhibition and you see things like a

exhibition and you see things like a

exhibition and you see things like a nose piece and you say aha now I

nose piece and you say aha now I

nose piece and you say aha now I understand why it’s there now I

understand why it’s there now I

understand why it’s there now I understand why it means something for

understand why it means something for

understand why it means something for ancient Peru or we see this beautiful

ancient Peru or we see this beautiful

ancient Peru or we see this beautiful turquoise petrol and we just have seen

turquoise petrol and we just have seen

turquoise petrol and we just have seen it in the picture of the Lord of Sipan

it in the picture of the Lord of Sipan

it in the picture of the Lord of Sipan we say aha now I understand where it

we say aha now I understand where it

we say aha now I understand where it come from

come from

come from now I understand its cultural

now I understand its cultural

now I understand its cultural significance this is the power of

significance this is the power of

significance this is the power of archaeology as presented in National

archaeology as presented in National

archaeology as presented in National I’ll tell you one more story about the

I’ll tell you one more story about the

I’ll tell you one more story about the history and it’s both a good and bad

history and it’s both a good and bad

history and it’s both a good and bad history is that this wealth of Peru has

history is that this wealth of Peru has

history is that this wealth of Peru has invited looters to come this is where

invited looters to come this is where

invited looters to come this is where Professor Izumi schemata works and this

Professor Izumi schemata works and this

Professor Izumi schemata works and this is whose photograph which he uses to

is whose photograph which he uses to

is whose photograph which he uses to illustrate the fact that the

illustrate the fact that the

illustrate the fact that the archeological site where he works at has

archeological site where he works at has

archeological site where he works at has somewhere in he said he counted himself

somewhere in he said he counted himself

somewhere in he said he counted himself personally over 100,000 looters pets I

personally over 100,000 looters pets I

personally over 100,000 looters pets I mean it’s unbelievable and it is from

mean it’s unbelievable and it is from

mean it’s unbelievable and it is from this site that we know that this famous

this site that we know that this famous

this site that we know that this famous mask we call it the Italian mask at this

mask we call it the Italian mask at this

mask we call it the Italian mask at this point because it became known that it

point because it became known that it

point because it became known that it was from secong we knew where it was

was from secong we knew where it was

was from secong we knew where it was from thanks to the work of Professor

from thanks to the work of Professor

from thanks to the work of Professor Izumi schemata and this piece actually

Izumi schemata and this piece actually

Izumi schemata and this piece actually the the back story of of it is is that

the the back story of of it is is that

the the back story of of it is is that as soon as it became known that it came

as soon as it became known that it came

as soon as it became known that it came from a certain site in Peru it became a

from a certain site in Peru it became a

from a certain site in Peru it became a celebrity in Italy it was as well-known

celebrity in Italy it was as well-known

celebrity in Italy it was as well-known as a movie star it was kind of neat to

as a movie star it was kind of neat to

as a movie star it was kind of neat to see archaeological but its portrait was

see archaeological but its portrait was

see archaeological but its portrait was on the front page of magazines and

on the front page of magazines and

on the front page of magazines and here’s the president of Italy with that

here’s the president of Italy with that

here’s the president of Italy with that handoff moment to ambassador Forsythe I

handoff moment to ambassador Forsythe I

handoff moment to ambassador Forsythe I think it’s incredible moment of cultures

think it’s incredible moment of cultures

think it’s incredible moment of cultures ancient cultures understanding one

ancient cultures understanding one

ancient cultures understanding one another but it was shimada’s excavations

another but it was shimada’s excavations

another but it was shimada’s excavations Shimada and carlos alehrer director ii

Shimada and carlos alehrer director ii

Shimada and carlos alehrer director ii museum who really spent a time to

museum who really spent a time to

museum who really spent a time to understand that context digging down

understand that context digging down

understand that context digging down down down 20 30 feet deep in the ground

down down 20 30 feet deep in the ground

down down 20 30 feet deep in the ground I mean these are really heroic

I mean these are really heroic

I mean these are really heroic excavations going down in hopes of being

excavations going down in hopes of being

excavations going down in hopes of being able to find the context and telling the

able to find the context and telling the

able to find the context and telling the story in 1991 that drew dream for Izumi

story in 1991 that drew dream for Izumi

story in 1991 that drew dream for Izumi schemata started to come true he looked

schemata started to come true he looked

schemata started to come true he looked down and he saw something that glittered

down and he saw something that glittered

down and he saw something that glittered something that you really hadn’t

something that you really hadn’t

something that you really hadn’t expected to see and this is Professor

expected to see and this is Professor

expected to see and this is Professor schemata you can see so to the 24 feet

schemata you can see so to the 24 feet

schemata you can see so to the 24 feet of earth above him

of earth above him

of earth above him I asked assuming today weren’t you a

I asked assuming today weren’t you a

I asked assuming today weren’t you a little worried and he said ah we checked

little worried and he said ah we checked

little worried and he said ah we checked every day not to worry not to worry but

every day not to worry not to worry but

every day not to worry not to worry but I mean it was really incredible and

I mean it was really incredible and

I mean it was really incredible and there he found this piece with its photo

there he found this piece with its photo

there he found this piece with its photo showing exactly how is found in situ in

showing exactly how is found in situ in

showing exactly how is found in situ in a way that reminds me so much of strong

a way that reminds me so much of strong

a way that reminds me so much of strong and Evan’s description of the first

and Evan’s description of the first

and Evan’s description of the first mochi mask the first mochi intact burial

mochi mask the first mochi intact burial

mochi mask the first mochi intact burial written on the pages of National

written on the pages of National

written on the pages of National Geographic in 1947 the thing about the

Geographic in 1947 the thing about the

Geographic in 1947 the thing about the strong and evidence article in 1947

strong and evidence article in 1947

strong and evidence article in 1947 there was a description but no

there was a description but no

there was a description but no photograph of the mask here it is

photograph of the mask here it is

photograph of the mask here it is magnificent

magnificent

magnificent ornamental elaborate headdress that

ornamental elaborate headdress that

ornamental elaborate headdress that really shows the power of the individual

really shows the power of the individual

really shows the power of the individual and the power that gold exudes and the

and the power that gold exudes and the

and the power that gold exudes and the importance that this material is in

importance that this material is in

importance that this material is in fruit don’t forget in Peru gold was

fruit don’t forget in Peru gold was

fruit don’t forget in Peru gold was never a commodity it was never traded

never a commodity it was never traded

never a commodity it was never traded for its value it was never stored as

for its value it was never stored as

for its value it was never stored as wealth it was always used to symbolize

wealth it was always used to symbolize

wealth it was always used to symbolize power and that connection with the Sun

power and that connection with the Sun

power and that connection with the Sun and when you see it in its original

and when you see it in its original

and when you see it in its original cultural context with the flames coming

cultural context with the flames coming

cultural context with the flames coming off and the bursts and an incredible

off and the bursts and an incredible

off and the bursts and an incredible wolf like animal who professor shimada’s

wolf like animal who professor shimada’s

wolf like animal who professor shimada’s has promised me whose tongue still wags

has promised me whose tongue still wags

has promised me whose tongue still wags back and forth you understand that power

back and forth you understand that power

back and forth you understand that power well just like to end with a little bit

well just like to end with a little bit

well just like to end with a little bit about the way that National Geographic

about the way that National Geographic

about the way that National Geographic and archaeologists continue to work in

and archaeologists continue to work in

and archaeologists continue to work in Peru and continue to innovate in

Peru and continue to innovate in

Peru and continue to innovate in archaeology but especially through the

archaeology but especially through the

archaeology but especially through the lens and we’re really happy to have on

lens and we’re really happy to have on

lens and we’re really happy to have on staff at National Geographic some

staff at National Geographic some

staff at National Geographic some innovators in photography this is Fabio

innovators in photography this is Fabio

innovators in photography this is Fabio Amador who works for the Waite National

Amador who works for the Waite National

Amador who works for the Waite National Geographic Grant Program and his camera

Geographic Grant Program and his camera

Geographic Grant Program and his camera there is something very very special

there is something very very special

there is something very very special called the GigaPan and he is taking a

called the GigaPan and he is taking a

called the GigaPan and he is taking a picture this is just a few months ago at

picture this is just a few months ago at

picture this is just a few months ago at the famous site of huaca de la luna and

the famous site of huaca de la luna and

the famous site of huaca de la luna and these murals which i have never really

these murals which i have never really

these murals which i have never really been thoroughly documented but these

been thoroughly documented but these

been thoroughly documented but these type of advances in photography and in

type of advances in photography and in

type of advances in photography and in the way we visualize the past they mean

the way we visualize the past they mean

the way we visualize the past they mean so much to archaeology to Peru and to

so much to archaeology to Peru and to

so much to archaeology to Peru and to science thank you very much

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