
hello everyone I’m Lucy McNeil here at National Geographic head courses for our
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join the conversation using hashtag let’s explore we’re very excited to have
let’s explore we’re very excited to have
let’s explore we’re very excited to have join us today astronaut Buzz Aldrin one
join us today astronaut Buzz Aldrin one
join us today astronaut Buzz Aldrin one of the first people to set foot on the
of the first people to set foot on the
of the first people to set foot on the moon and author of the new book mission
moon and author of the new book mission
moon and author of the new book mission to Mars which you can see here say hi
to Mars which you can see here say hi
to Mars which you can see here say hi buzz hi there hi there and we’re also
buzz hi there hi there and we’re also
buzz hi there hi there and we’re also joined by a world-renowned Mountaineer
joined by a world-renowned Mountaineer
joined by a world-renowned Mountaineer Conrad Anker who summited Everest among
Conrad Anker who summited Everest among
Conrad Anker who summited Everest among many other incredible summits three
many other incredible summits three
many other incredible summits three times Conrad hello welcome Conrad has
times Conrad hello welcome Conrad has
times Conrad hello welcome Conrad has contributed to the call of Everest which
contributed to the call of Everest which
contributed to the call of Everest which is a new book time with the 50th
is a new book time with the 50th
is a new book time with the 50th anniversary of the first American
anniversary of the first American
anniversary of the first American expedition to the world’s highest
expedition to the world’s highest
expedition to the world’s highest mountain I’m so without further ado
mountain I’m so without further ado
mountain I’m so without further ado we’re going to jump straight into the
we’re going to jump straight into the
we’re going to jump straight into the first theme as we’re talking about risk
first theme as we’re talking about risk
first theme as we’re talking about risk um if we’re conquering about if we’re if
um if we’re conquering about if we’re if
um if we’re conquering about if we’re if conquering our greatest fears leads us
conquering our greatest fears leads us
conquering our greatest fears leads us to feel humble and insignificant as I
to feel humble and insignificant as I
to feel humble and insignificant as I know both of you have talked about over
know both of you have talked about over
know both of you have talked about over the years about standing on the moon and
the years about standing on the moon and
the years about standing on the moon and standing on Everest then what gives you
standing on Everest then what gives you
standing on Everest then what gives you a sense of significance personally I
a sense of significance personally I
a sense of significance personally I what does risk really mean to you um I
what does risk really mean to you um I
what does risk really mean to you um I don’t know if you want to go first buzz
don’t know if you want to go first buzz
don’t know if you want to go first buzz well I to me risk means to putting your
well I to me risk means to putting your
well I to me risk means to putting your life or your mission things that you
life or your mission things that you
life or your mission things that you hold dear to you at a jeopardy of losing
hold dear to you at a jeopardy of losing
hold dear to you at a jeopardy of losing whatever they are and losing all the
whatever they are and losing all the
whatever they are and losing all the efforts that you put into that and of
efforts that you put into that and of
efforts that you put into that and of course we’ve lived our lives up to this
course we’ve lived our lives up to this
course we’ve lived our lives up to this moment and we want to continue to enjoy
moment and we want to continue to enjoy
moment and we want to continue to enjoy fellowship and and the earth that’s
fellowship and and the earth that’s
fellowship and and the earth that’s great Conrad risk is the the price of
great Conrad risk is the the price of
great Conrad risk is the the price of exploration because any time ago to
exploration because any time ago to
exploration because any time ago to someplace we’ve never been before
someplace we’ve never been before
someplace we’ve never been before there’s a chance we won’t come back and
there’s a chance we won’t come back and
there’s a chance we won’t come back and this drive for exploration is why humans
this drive for exploration is why humans
this drive for exploration is why humans are where we are today
are where we are today
are where we are today right so why do you think it’s important
right so why do you think it’s important
right so why do you think it’s important that we push boundaries I mean what are
that we push boundaries I mean what are
that we push boundaries I mean what are the big risks humans should be taking
the big risks humans should be taking
the big risks humans should be taking and on why well on my end I it’s sort of
and on why well on my end I it’s sort of
and on why well on my end I it’s sort of metaphorical miss risk I go out there
metaphorical miss risk I go out there
metaphorical miss risk I go out there and I try things that haven’t been done
and I try things that haven’t been done
and I try things that haven’t been done but it’s our willingness to put yourself
but it’s our willingness to put yourself
but it’s our willingness to put yourself out there and humans are going to have
out there and humans are going to have
out there and humans are going to have plenty of challenges in the next
plenty of challenges in the next
plenty of challenges in the next hundreds of years is we address our how
hundreds of years is we address our how
hundreds of years is we address our how many people we have on this planet Wow
many people we have on this planet Wow
many people we have on this planet Wow and Buzz what do you think about
and Buzz what do you think about
and Buzz what do you think about boundaries there well I think the
boundaries there well I think the
boundaries there well I think the difference between Conrad and myself is
difference between Conrad and myself is
difference between Conrad and myself is that I’ve had a big team of people a
that I’ve had a big team of people a
that I’ve had a big team of people a commitment and objective and a lot of
commitment and objective and a lot of
commitment and objective and a lot of people are counting on let’s say in my
people are counting on let’s say in my
people are counting on let’s say in my case the three of us to carry out the
case the three of us to carry out the
case the three of us to carry out the challenge of making the first landing on
challenge of making the first landing on
challenge of making the first landing on the moon so a lot of people are
the moon so a lot of people are
the moon so a lot of people are witnessing our every moment and we need
witnessing our every moment and we need
witnessing our every moment and we need to indicate to them and ourselves a
to indicate to them and ourselves a
to indicate to them and ourselves a calmness a coolness we might call it and
calmness a coolness we might call it and
calmness a coolness we might call it and certainly a lack of the cloudiness that
certainly a lack of the cloudiness that
certainly a lack of the cloudiness that comes with fear and panic great and when
comes with fear and panic great and when
comes with fear and panic great and when you think about risk in terms of what’s
you think about risk in terms of what’s
you think about risk in terms of what’s more important that you push past fear
more important that you push past fear
more important that you push past fear or that you don’t have regret later I
or that you don’t have regret later I
or that you don’t have regret later I mean how do you buy what’s the balancing
mean how do you buy what’s the balancing
mean how do you buy what’s the balancing act there I mean Conrad can you give us
act there I mean Conrad can you give us
act there I mean Conrad can you give us a specific example of of where you’ve
a specific example of of where you’ve
a specific example of of where you’ve had to do that my view is probably
had to do that my view is probably
had to do that my view is probably ninety five ninety seven percent of time
ninety five ninety seven percent of time
ninety five ninety seven percent of time I’m within my boundaries and what I need
I’m within my boundaries and what I need
I’m within my boundaries and what I need to do and then every now then you have
to do and then every now then you have
to do and then every now then you have to to push for that extra risk and a
to to push for that extra risk and a
to to push for that extra risk and a judge if those rewards or a benefit to
judge if those rewards or a benefit to
judge if those rewards or a benefit to you so but I’m compared to landing on
you so but I’m compared to landing on
you so but I’m compared to landing on the moon climbing mountains is it’s a
the moon climbing mountains is it’s a
the moon climbing mountains is it’s a it’s a selfish pursuit and I have just a
it’s a selfish pursuit and I have just a
it’s a selfish pursuit and I have just a tremendous amount of respect for the
tremendous amount of respect for the
tremendous amount of respect for the risk that the three of you on July
risk that the three of you on July
risk that the three of you on July twentieth nineteen sixty-nine well one
twentieth nineteen sixty-nine well one
twentieth nineteen sixty-nine well one of the one of this one of the stories
of the one of this one of the stories
of the one of this one of the stories that I love that
that I love that
that I love that you mentioned in the beginning of the
you mentioned in the beginning of the
you mentioned in the beginning of the Everest but Conrad is that you were like
Everest but Conrad is that you were like
Everest but Conrad is that you were like a teenager I think on your bicycle when
a teenager I think on your bicycle when
a teenager I think on your bicycle when you got the news about buzz landing on
you got the news about buzz landing on
you got the news about buzz landing on the moon and that your mom’s that had
the moon and that your mom’s that had
the moon and that your mom’s that had these stories about you suddenly wanting
these stories about you suddenly wanting
these stories about you suddenly wanting to be an astronaut that right that is
to be an astronaut that right that is
to be an astronaut that right that is exactly the case and we had small black
exactly the case and we had small black
exactly the case and we had small black and white TVs and 24 and buzzes age to
and white TVs and 24 and buzzes age to
and white TVs and 24 and buzzes age to go from Mount Everest to the moon that
go from Mount Everest to the moon that
go from Mount Everest to the moon that was 16 years from nineteen fifty three
was 16 years from nineteen fifty three
was 16 years from nineteen fifty three to nineteen sixty-nine and it really as
to nineteen sixty-nine and it really as
to nineteen sixty-nine and it really as a young person it just motivated me to
a young person it just motivated me to
a young person it just motivated me to engage in school and and it’s got had a
engage in school and and it’s got had a
engage in school and and it’s got had a great multiplier effect and that was
great multiplier effect and that was
great multiplier effect and that was part of the reason we set out last year
part of the reason we set out last year
part of the reason we set out last year on our Everest expedition to include
on our Everest expedition to include
on our Everest expedition to include National Science Foundation curriculum
National Science Foundation curriculum
National Science Foundation curriculum for fourth and fifth graders and to pay
for fourth and fifth graders and to pay
for fourth and fifth graders and to pay back that motivation that I got from you
back that motivation that I got from you
back that motivation that I got from you buzz and the astronauts well we knew we
buzz and the astronauts well we knew we
buzz and the astronauts well we knew we were taking a chance but carrying out
were taking a chance but carrying out
were taking a chance but carrying out their hopes and all the wishes of so
their hopes and all the wishes of so
their hopes and all the wishes of so many young people who are tuned in but
many young people who are tuned in but
many young people who are tuned in but we really couldn’t dwell on that
we really couldn’t dwell on that
we really couldn’t dwell on that situation we were pretty busy directed
situation we were pretty busy directed
situation we were pretty busy directed on accomplishing whatever was in the
on accomplishing whatever was in the
on accomplishing whatever was in the checklist that we could remember and and
checklist that we could remember and and
checklist that we could remember and and making sure that we did the things that
making sure that we did the things that
making sure that we did the things that would make us proud of having
would make us proud of having
would make us proud of having participated afterwards that’s a good
participated afterwards that’s a good
participated afterwards that’s a good one hi what can I see what is what is
one hi what can I see what is what is
one hi what can I see what is what is the decision-making factor about what is
the decision-making factor about what is
the decision-making factor about what is too risky and how do you know and is
too risky and how do you know and is
too risky and how do you know and is there a personal was there a personal
there a personal was there a personal
there a personal was there a personal moment during the course of the flight
moment during the course of the flight
moment during the course of the flight to the moon that you felt a very keen
to the moon that you felt a very keen
to the moon that you felt a very keen sense of that buzz and the same with
sense of that buzz and the same with
sense of that buzz and the same with Conrad like what is the point where you
Conrad like what is the point where you
Conrad like what is the point where you think something is too risky i I really
think something is too risky i I really
think something is too risky i I really don’t think that occurred until maybe we
don’t think that occurred until maybe we
don’t think that occurred until maybe we were leaving orbit Neil and I in the
were leaving orbit Neil and I in the
were leaving orbit Neil and I in the lander and we came about halfway down
lander and we came about halfway down
lander and we came about halfway down the landing radar was
the landing radar was
the landing radar was beginning to feed information into the
beginning to feed information into the
beginning to feed information into the computer and all of a sudden we got
computer and all of a sudden we got
computer and all of a sudden we got program alarms 1202 we didn’t know what
program alarms 1202 we didn’t know what
program alarms 1202 we didn’t know what that meant and we certainly weren’t
that meant and we certainly weren’t
that meant and we certainly weren’t going to go in and open the guidance and
going to go in and open the guidance and
going to go in and open the guidance and navigation dictionaries of is about this
navigation dictionaries of is about this
navigation dictionaries of is about this thick so Neal ask Houston give us a
thick so Neal ask Houston give us a
thick so Neal ask Houston give us a reading on that and fortunately there
reading on that and fortunately there
reading on that and fortunately there was a engineer back there who understood
was a engineer back there who understood
was a engineer back there who understood that the computer was a little bit
that the computer was a little bit
that the computer was a little bit overloaded but as long as it was not
overloaded but as long as it was not
overloaded but as long as it was not repeating itself we were go for landing
repeating itself we were go for landing
repeating itself we were go for landing so we had a few more of those even this
so we had a few more of those even this
so we had a few more of those even this close as 3,000 feet off the ground and
close as 3,000 feet off the ground and
close as 3,000 feet off the ground and how do you manage that you as a person I
how do you manage that you as a person I
how do you manage that you as a person I mean what were the thoughts ticking
mean what were the thoughts ticking
mean what were the thoughts ticking through your brain when that was going
through your brain when that was going
through your brain when that was going on well we’re very happy that we have
on well we’re very happy that we have
on well we’re very happy that we have such a talented capable team behind us
such a talented capable team behind us
such a talented capable team behind us but you do you didn’t know what could
but you do you didn’t know what could
but you do you didn’t know what could happen really bad did you know that you
happen really bad did you know that you
happen really bad did you know that you could be safe no that’s why you need
could be safe no that’s why you need
could be safe no that’s why you need trust in people and their knowledge to
trust in people and their knowledge to
trust in people and their knowledge to play their part in contributing to your
play their part in contributing to your
play their part in contributing to your being able to do the next step to carry
being able to do the next step to carry
being able to do the next step to carry out mission success when we get down to
out mission success when we get down to
out mission success when we get down to about a hundred feet the callout came
about a hundred feet the callout came
about a hundred feet the callout came from Houston 60 seconds that’s how much
from Houston 60 seconds that’s how much
from Houston 60 seconds that’s how much fuel we had left I was beginning to get
fuel we had left I was beginning to get
fuel we had left I was beginning to get a little concerned but I didn’t want to
a little concerned but I didn’t want to
a little concerned but I didn’t want to interrupt the concentration that Neil
interrupt the concentration that Neil
interrupt the concentration that Neil had in flying over a kind of rocky area
had in flying over a kind of rocky area
had in flying over a kind of rocky area at at 30 seconds we were ten feet above
at at 30 seconds we were ten feet above
at at 30 seconds we were ten feet above the ground and I was pretty relieved we
the ground and I was pretty relieved we
the ground and I was pretty relieved we could probably have the engine fail and
could probably have the engine fail and
could probably have the engine fail and up and and still make kind of a hard
up and and still make kind of a hard
up and and still make kind of a hard landing right that’s incredible I also
landing right that’s incredible I also
landing right that’s incredible I also read that when you took back off again
read that when you took back off again
read that when you took back off again you said we’re number one and on the
you said we’re number one and on the
you said we’re number one and on the landing for takeoff so obviously humor
landing for takeoff so obviously humor
landing for takeoff so obviously humor pays a big pot as well in it I think
pays a big pot as well in it I think
pays a big pot as well in it I think well I I had been saving up that phrase
well I I had been saving up that phrase
well I I had been saving up that phrase something who respond to maybe lighten
something who respond to maybe lighten
something who respond to maybe lighten the moment as we received the
the moment as we received the
the moment as we received the instructions tranquility base you’re
instructions tranquility base you’re
instructions tranquility base you’re cleared for liftoff and I said Roger
cleared for liftoff and I said Roger
cleared for liftoff and I said Roger Houston we’re number one on the runway
Houston we’re number one on the runway
Houston we’re number one on the runway Barry 90 all pilots know what what that
Barry 90 all pilots know what what that
Barry 90 all pilots know what what that means you’re you’re turning out and
means you’re you’re turning out and
means you’re you’re turning out and you’re ready to pour the coal to the or
you’re ready to pour the coal to the or
you’re ready to pour the coal to the or engage the afterburner and off you go
engage the afterburner and off you go
engage the afterburner and off you go that’s great Conrad how have you found I
that’s great Conrad how have you found I
that’s great Conrad how have you found I mean a does humor play a part in in sort
mean a does humor play a part in in sort
mean a does humor play a part in in sort of the riskiest moments deserve taking
of the riskiest moments deserve taking
of the riskiest moments deserve taking the edge off some really terrifying
the edge off some really terrifying
the edge off some really terrifying things that are going on or an unfolding
things that are going on or an unfolding
things that are going on or an unfolding situation where you know you know that
situation where you know you know that
situation where you know you know that um you know things are pretty tricky but
um you know things are pretty tricky but
um you know things are pretty tricky but it’s not going to help to escalate it
it’s not going to help to escalate it
it’s not going to help to escalate it through being fearful so how do you use
through being fearful so how do you use
through being fearful so how do you use it in a risky situation in the mountains
it in a risky situation in the mountains
it in a risky situation in the mountains means that there you’re being threatened
means that there you’re being threatened
means that there you’re being threatened by snow or I sec is above you that can
by snow or I sec is above you that can
by snow or I sec is above you that can come down on you so that’s a we try to
come down on you so that’s a we try to
come down on you so that’s a we try to avoid them as much as possible but when
avoid them as much as possible but when
avoid them as much as possible but when you’re in a really when things are
you’re in a really when things are
you’re in a really when things are desperate and it’s really hard and
desperate and it’s really hard and
desperate and it’s really hard and you’re making decisions a little bit of
you’re making decisions a little bit of
you’re making decisions a little bit of humor is great because what it serves in
humor is great because what it serves in
humor is great because what it serves in a climbing setup is that it’s a check on
a climbing setup is that it’s a check on
a climbing setup is that it’s a check on your partner if your partner still can
your partner if your partner still can
your partner if your partner still can get your humor they’re doing okay and
get your humor they’re doing okay and
get your humor they’re doing okay and it’s an important part of it and we
it’s an important part of it and we
it’s an important part of it and we always have these silly jokes and but
always have these silly jokes and but
always have these silly jokes and but when you might wash you like it well we
when you might wash you like it well we
when you might wash you like it well we always we always try to put it like oh
always we always try to put it like oh
always we always try to put it like oh it couldn’t be it’s not that bad so you
it couldn’t be it’s not that bad so you
it couldn’t be it’s not that bad so you know it’s really that bad it’d be like
know it’s really that bad it’d be like
know it’s really that bad it’d be like man can you what if we got ketchup on
man can you what if we got ketchup on
man can you what if we got ketchup on our shirt that would be where you are so
our shirt that would be where you are so
our shirt that would be where you are so don’t think there’s always the moments
don’t think there’s always the moments
don’t think there’s always the moments always appropriate but that little bit
always appropriate but that little bit
always appropriate but that little bit of humor is it check on your team and
of humor is it check on your team and
of humor is it check on your team and your partner’s so that they’re doing
your partner’s so that they’re doing
your partner’s so that they’re doing okay and you’re with that plus it it
okay and you’re with that plus it it
okay and you’re with that plus it it lessens this moment when you have to
lessens this moment when you have to
lessens this moment when you have to make those decisions right that’s a good
make those decisions right that’s a good
make those decisions right that’s a good one now some sometimes you just don’t
one now some sometimes you just don’t
one now some sometimes you just don’t know whether whether your partner is
know whether whether your partner is
know whether whether your partner is telling a joke or not I remember we were
telling a joke or not I remember we were
telling a joke or not I remember we were in lunar
in lunar
in lunar orbit and Mike Collins says the hey Neil
orbit and Mike Collins says the hey Neil
orbit and Mike Collins says the hey Neil have you thought about what you’re going
have you thought about what you’re going
have you thought about what you’re going to say when when you get to walk on the
to say when when you get to walk on the
to say when when you get to walk on the moon and Neil said oh I don’t know I’ll
moon and Neil said oh I don’t know I’ll
moon and Neil said oh I don’t know I’ll wait till we successfully land and then
wait till we successfully land and then
wait till we successfully land and then I’ll think about it I don’t think I
I’ll think about it I don’t think I
I’ll think about it I don’t think I would have I thought about it well ahead
would have I thought about it well ahead
would have I thought about it well ahead of time if it had been my task and I
of time if it had been my task and I
of time if it had been my task and I really don’t think i have relied on on
really don’t think i have relied on on
really don’t think i have relied on on my wisdom for such a significant moment
my wisdom for such a significant moment
my wisdom for such a significant moment I i would have consulted somebody just
I i would have consulted somebody just
I i would have consulted somebody just like leaders of big organizations have
like leaders of big organizations have
like leaders of big organizations have speech writers they put their own tone
speech writers they put their own tone
speech writers they put their own tone into things which I do I written a good
into things which I do I written a good
into things which I do I written a good number of books but I am NOT a writer so
number of books but I am NOT a writer so
number of books but I am NOT a writer so I deal with a professional and then
I deal with a professional and then
I deal with a professional and then hopefully he understands what I’m
hopefully he understands what I’m
hopefully he understands what I’m telling him the noise work out that way
telling him the noise work out that way
telling him the noise work out that way but not always but it’s a good way of
but not always but it’s a good way of
but not always but it’s a good way of thinking about it as well I think so
thinking about it as well I think so
thinking about it as well I think so it’s good to have it takes a village
it’s good to have it takes a village
it’s good to have it takes a village takes village yeah um so I think we have
takes village yeah um so I think we have
takes village yeah um so I think we have a video question coming up now which is
a video question coming up now which is
a video question coming up now which is going to be from Marga and i think
going to be from Marga and i think
going to be from Marga and i think tomorrow in Yerevan and the question is
tomorrow in Yerevan and the question is
tomorrow in Yerevan and the question is about advice for the next generation oh
about advice for the next generation oh
about advice for the next generation oh I’m actually being told that that video
I’m actually being told that that video
I’m actually being told that that video is not working just yet so we’re going
is not working just yet so we’re going
is not working just yet so we’re going to try and run that one a little bit
to try and run that one a little bit
to try and run that one a little bit later on so we’ll move to a new theme
later on so we’ll move to a new theme
later on so we’ll move to a new theme and we’re thinking about more of a
and we’re thinking about more of a
and we’re thinking about more of a personal idea now what drives you to
personal idea now what drives you to
personal idea now what drives you to take risks we have Stanley on Google+
take risks we have Stanley on Google+
take risks we have Stanley on Google+ who asks what pushes you past the fear
who asks what pushes you past the fear
who asks what pushes you past the fear when doing some of the things you do
when doing some of the things you do
when doing some of the things you do what what is this in in a thought that
what what is this in in a thought that
what what is this in in a thought that you really go to when you are trying to
you really go to when you are trying to
you really go to when you are trying to push past scary things I don’t know if
push past scary things I don’t know if
push past scary things I don’t know if Conrad wants to go first in mountain
Conrad wants to go first in mountain
Conrad wants to go first in mountain climbing you’re out there for 10 weeks
climbing you’re out there for 10 weeks
climbing you’re out there for 10 weeks and then of that you might have there’s
and then of that you might have there’s
and then of that you might have there’s a lot of sitting around and things like
a lot of sitting around and things like
a lot of sitting around and things like that but then when it’s busy it’s not
that but then when it’s busy it’s not
that but then when it’s busy it’s not that immediate so you kind of keep a
that immediate so you kind of keep a
that immediate so you kind of keep a calm thought knowing that if you are
calm thought knowing that if you are
calm thought knowing that if you are nervous you’re going to be used
nervous you’re going to be used
nervous you’re going to be used a physical energy that you could then
a physical energy that you could then
a physical energy that you could then use in other parts of your body and ways
use in other parts of your body and ways
use in other parts of your body and ways to keep warm and then when there is the
to keep warm and then when there is the
to keep warm and then when there is the odd moment that something quickly
odd moment that something quickly
odd moment that something quickly happens and the situation turns risky
happens and the situation turns risky
happens and the situation turns risky immediately then you you have a surge of
immediately then you you have a surge of
immediately then you you have a surge of adrenaline and you address it right
adrenaline and you address it right
adrenaline and you address it right there right and buzz ah well most all of
there right and buzz ah well most all of
there right and buzz ah well most all of us in the early phases of the space
us in the early phases of the space
us in the early phases of the space program they were test pilots I used a
program they were test pilots I used a
program they were test pilots I used a little bit more of my my head work and
little bit more of my my head work and
little bit more of my my head work and chose not to pursue test pilot training
chose not to pursue test pilot training
chose not to pursue test pilot training but to get more education so that I
but to get more education so that I
but to get more education so that I could analyze how to do different things
could analyze how to do different things
could analyze how to do different things and so at MIT instead of learning how to
and so at MIT instead of learning how to
and so at MIT instead of learning how to how to intercept airplanes I looked at
how to intercept airplanes I looked at
how to intercept airplanes I looked at how do we rendezvous in space and back
how do we rendezvous in space and back
how do we rendezvous in space and back in 1962 we certainly didn’t know how to
in 1962 we certainly didn’t know how to
in 1962 we certainly didn’t know how to do that so it was a paving new ground
do that so it was a paving new ground
do that so it was a paving new ground and unfortunately looking ahead I was
and unfortunately looking ahead I was
and unfortunately looking ahead I was able to do the same thing now about
able to do the same thing now about
able to do the same thing now about going to Mars with orbits that swing
going to Mars with orbits that swing
going to Mars with orbits that swing around the earth and then go to Mars
around the earth and then go to Mars
around the earth and then go to Mars swing around Mars and essentially come
swing around Mars and essentially come
swing around Mars and essentially come back and repeat that opportunity
back and repeat that opportunity
back and repeat that opportunity continuously so they don’t start and
continuously so they don’t start and
continuously so they don’t start and stop at at one destination or that
stop at at one destination or that
stop at at one destination or that that’s more of an intellectual risk in a
that’s more of an intellectual risk in a
that’s more of an intellectual risk in a way that you’re making an intellectual
way that you’re making an intellectual
way that you’re making an intellectual calculation about how far to push an
calculation about how far to push an
calculation about how far to push an idea well not not always to other people
idea well not not always to other people
idea well not not always to other people understand for bridges motivations club
understand for bridges motivations club
understand for bridges motivations club it and it might be a little jealous they
it and it might be a little jealous they
it and it might be a little jealous they might be able to think you’re pushing
might be able to think you’re pushing
might be able to think you’re pushing your your own ideas it’s essential that
your your own ideas it’s essential that
your your own ideas it’s essential that whatever we can contribute to the
whatever we can contribute to the
whatever we can contribute to the success of a mission we certainly like
success of a mission we certainly like
success of a mission we certainly like to do so and sometimes you’re taking
to do so and sometimes you’re taking
to do so and sometimes you’re taking risks in what you propose because it may
risks in what you propose because it may
risks in what you propose because it may turn out to be not very practical right
turn out to be not very practical right
turn out to be not very practical right and then you have to figure out what to
and then you have to figure out what to
and then you have to figure out what to say to it
say to it
say to it 30 as well of course but worry about
30 as well of course but worry about
30 as well of course but worry about that later alright we have now another
that later alright we have now another
that later alright we have now another video we have another crack at a video
video we have another crack at a video
video we have another crack at a video question we’ve got National Geographic
question we’ve got National Geographic
question we’ve got National Geographic Explorer Kenny broad sent us a video
Explorer Kenny broad sent us a video
Explorer Kenny broad sent us a video question and he’s also asking about risk
question and he’s also asking about risk
question and he’s also asking about risk an adventure in the everyday I think
an adventure in the everyday I think
an adventure in the everyday I think that one’s just coming up now tick tick
that one’s just coming up now tick tick
that one’s just coming up now tick tick tick tick okay Kenny we know your dad
tick tick okay Kenny we know your dad
tick tick okay Kenny we know your dad mr. Boddy we know you that think it’s
mr. Boddy we know you that think it’s
mr. Boddy we know you that think it’s back to run seems to have some my life
closer to saying goodbye in life as you
closer to saying goodbye in life as you know it not active cave diving her
know it not active cave diving her
know it not active cave diving her part-time but actually driving to the
part-time but actually driving to the
part-time but actually driving to the dive site on dating thing to do every
dive site on dating thing to do every
dive site on dating thing to do every game forget about like you think it soon
game forget about like you think it soon
game forget about like you think it soon into you youtube work in extreme
into you youtube work in extreme
into you youtube work in extreme environments you think gotten over way
environments you think gotten over way
environments you think gotten over way it’s low probability but very dramatic
it’s low probability but very dramatic
it’s low probability but very dramatic event havens like avalanches and
event havens like avalanches and
event havens like avalanches and underway things that are just common
underway things that are just common
underway things that are just common events but much more likely harm how can
events but much more likely harm how can
events but much more likely harm how can we translate at the other aspects of a
we translate at the other aspects of a
we translate at the other aspects of a live environment in other sorts
well okay could you guys here first of
well okay could you guys here first of all and I’ll repeat the gist of it could
all and I’ll repeat the gist of it could
all and I’ll repeat the gist of it could you both hear it okay yeah yeah little
you both hear it okay yeah yeah little
you both hear it okay yeah yeah little bit okay so it’s about the money is the
bit okay so it’s about the money is the
bit okay so it’s about the money is the mundane risk actually the risk that we
mundane risk actually the risk that we
mundane risk actually the risk that we should be thinking about more
should be thinking about more
should be thinking about more strategically because that can often be
strategically because that can often be
strategically because that can often be too scary a piece of it and as you saw
too scary a piece of it and as you saw
too scary a piece of it and as you saw Kenny had broken his arm by falling off
Kenny had broken his arm by falling off
Kenny had broken his arm by falling off a scout for a dive site rather than on
a scout for a dive site rather than on
a scout for a dive site rather than on the expedition itself I’m just repeating
the expedition itself I’m just repeating
the expedition itself I’m just repeating that for some viewers who may not have
that for some viewers who may not have
that for some viewers who may not have perfect full question Conrad um I i
perfect full question Conrad um I i
perfect full question Conrad um I i think that the risk that i encounter in
think that the risk that i encounter in
think that the risk that i encounter in driving in day-to-day life in the
driving in day-to-day life in the
driving in day-to-day life in the mundane life is a lot less than
mundane life is a lot less than
mundane life is a lot less than high-altitude climbing climbing at the
high-altitude climbing climbing at the
high-altitude climbing climbing at the higher elevations on everest in those
higher elevations on everest in those
higher elevations on everest in those taba mountains is one of the most
taba mountains is one of the most
taba mountains is one of the most dangerous sportsman cannot partake and
dangerous sportsman cannot partake and
dangerous sportsman cannot partake and so there’s been four fatalities this
so there’s been four fatalities this
so there’s been four fatalities this season on ever so I am I think that my
season on ever so I am I think that my
season on ever so I am I think that my heightened sense of risk awareness
heightened sense of risk awareness
heightened sense of risk awareness because I’m in the mountains offers me a
because I’m in the mountains offers me a
because I’m in the mountains offers me a little bit better assessment when I’m
little bit better assessment when I’m
little bit better assessment when I’m driving around and I’m walking so I’m
driving around and I’m walking so I’m
driving around and I’m walking so I’m tuned in my environment and make sure
tuned in my environment and make sure
tuned in my environment and make sure that I’m aware of the other people their
that I’m aware of the other people their
that I’m aware of the other people their automobiles and I work with it but um
automobiles and I work with it but um
automobiles and I work with it but um for me unfortunately life is risk here
for me unfortunately life is risk here
for me unfortunately life is risk here in the mountains of this here and I
in the mountains of this here and I
in the mountains of this here and I can’t push it away and say oh well more
can’t push it away and say oh well more
can’t push it away and say oh well more people die on automobiles for in my line
people die on automobiles for in my line
people die on automobiles for in my line of work that’s not the case it really
of work that’s not the case it really
of work that’s not the case it really isn’t i went and buzzed and i’m going to
isn’t i went and buzzed and i’m going to
isn’t i went and buzzed and i’m going to come back to Conrad on a specific issue
come back to Conrad on a specific issue
come back to Conrad on a specific issue on that buzz what do you think well
on that buzz what do you think well
on that buzz what do you think well riskiness I think Barry’s with age I
riskiness I think Barry’s with age I
riskiness I think Barry’s with age I remember I was quite young and I was
remember I was quite young and I was
remember I was quite young and I was playing out on a pier at a lake and and
playing out on a pier at a lake and and
playing out on a pier at a lake and and I was very proud of the bucket that I
I was very proud of the bucket that I
I was very proud of the bucket that I had that was full of rocks and and my
had that was full of rocks and and my
had that was full of rocks and and my friend decided he would just push me off
friend decided he would just push me off
friend decided he would just push me off the pier so I went down and carrying
the pier so I went down and carrying
the pier so I went down and carrying that bucket of rocks with me all the way
that bucket of rocks with me all the way
that bucket of rocks with me all the way to the bottom fortunately my friend’s
to the bottom fortunately my friend’s
to the bottom fortunately my friend’s father came down and fished me out of
father came down and fished me out of
father came down and fished me out of the water I learned to swim
the water I learned to swim
the water I learned to swim after that and I was so fascinated with
after that and I was so fascinated with
after that and I was so fascinated with what you could do underwater that I
what you could do underwater that I
what you could do underwater that I thought well why don’t I just get a hose
thought well why don’t I just get a hose
thought well why don’t I just get a hose that’ll go up to the surface and I’ll
that’ll go up to the surface and I’ll
that’ll go up to the surface and I’ll carry a rock and I’ll just walk down in
carry a rock and I’ll just walk down in
carry a rock and I’ll just walk down in the water well that doesn’t work either
the water well that doesn’t work either
the water well that doesn’t work either because it’s the difference between how
because it’s the difference between how
because it’s the difference between how deep your lungs are and that’s why when
deep your lungs are and that’s why when
deep your lungs are and that’s why when we snorkel we generally lie rather
we snorkel we generally lie rather
we snorkel we generally lie rather rather flat now these are little little
rather flat now these are little little
rather flat now these are little little piddling things but it’s good to
piddling things but it’s good to
piddling things but it’s good to remember that you got to do the critical
remember that you got to do the critical
remember that you got to do the critical things when you’ve just shot down a
things when you’ve just shot down a
things when you’ve just shot down a mig-15 in Korea and you’re climbing out
mig-15 in Korea and you’re climbing out
mig-15 in Korea and you’re climbing out to get back to the home base and you’re
to get back to the home base and you’re
to get back to the home base and you’re all by yourself and all of a sudden it
all by yourself and all of a sudden it
all by yourself and all of a sudden it occurs to you you’re not climbing as
occurs to you you’re not climbing as
occurs to you you’re not climbing as fast as you should and and with great
fast as you should and and with great
fast as you should and and with great chagrin and guiltiness you realize you
chagrin and guiltiness you realize you
chagrin and guiltiness you realize you have still have your speed breaks out
have still have your speed breaks out
have still have your speed breaks out and that’s why you’re climbing slowly
and that’s why you’re climbing slowly
and that’s why you’re climbing slowly that’s kind of risky if my risky eggs
that’s kind of risky if my risky eggs
that’s kind of risky if my risky eggs are trying to chase you as you try and
are trying to chase you as you try and
are trying to chase you as you try and head climb to altitude and head on back
head climb to altitude and head on back
head climb to altitude and head on back yeah I think that all they all tend to
yeah I think that all they all tend to
yeah I think that all they all tend to be lessons that can end up as Kenny was
be lessons that can end up as Kenny was
be lessons that can end up as Kenny was alluding to that we can sort of MIT mix
alluding to that we can sort of MIT mix
alluding to that we can sort of MIT mix and match into real life it I mean for
and match into real life it I mean for
and match into real life it I mean for somebody like you and Conrad you have to
somebody like you and Conrad you have to
somebody like you and Conrad you have to deploy them in very serious situations
deploy them in very serious situations
deploy them in very serious situations particularly but um that that actually
particularly but um that that actually
particularly but um that that actually made me think about the situation on
made me think about the situation on
made me think about the situation on Everest right now which is talked about
Everest right now which is talked about
Everest right now which is talked about in this month’s edition of our magazine
in this month’s edition of our magazine
in this month’s edition of our magazine and I wondered what you thought Conrad
and I wondered what you thought Conrad
and I wondered what you thought Conrad about you know when you look at risks
about you know when you look at risks
about you know when you look at risks and then you look at the amount of
and then you look at the amount of
and then you look at the amount of people that we see on Everest now and
people that we see on Everest now and
people that we see on Everest now and even the most recent situation with
even the most recent situation with
even the most recent situation with simone moreau and the surface where does
simone moreau and the surface where does
simone moreau and the surface where does conflict resolution techniques come in
conflict resolution techniques come in
conflict resolution techniques come in when you’re trying to manage risk when
when you’re trying to manage risk when
when you’re trying to manage risk when you’re on a mountain I mean how we talk
you’re on a mountain I mean how we talk
you’re on a mountain I mean how we talk about risk as if it’s things that’s that
about risk as if it’s things that’s that
about risk as if it’s things that’s that is going to happen because of the the
is going to happen because of the the
is going to happen because of the the activities that we’ve planned for and
activities that we’ve planned for and
activities that we’ve planned for and prepared for and have we planned enough
prepared for and have we planned enough
prepared for and have we planned enough if you’re an adventurer and explore but
if you’re an adventurer and explore but
if you’re an adventurer and explore but what is it what
what is it what
what is it what the conflict piece way you need to work
the conflict piece way you need to work
the conflict piece way you need to work with human capital to you know overcome
with human capital to you know overcome
with human capital to you know overcome something like that in climbing you’re a
something like that in climbing you’re a
something like that in climbing you’re a guest in whichever in climbing the
guest in whichever in climbing the
guest in whichever in climbing the Himalayas you’ll be a guest in neither
Himalayas you’ll be a guest in neither
Himalayas you’ll be a guest in neither the Karakoram or the central Himalayas
the Karakoram or the central Himalayas
the Karakoram or the central Himalayas or the Eastern Himalayas and all these
or the Eastern Himalayas and all these
or the Eastern Himalayas and all these ranges have people that live there and
ranges have people that live there and
ranges have people that live there and they’re part of their communities
they’re part of their communities
they’re part of their communities specifically on Everest there is a it’s
specifically on Everest there is a it’s
specifically on Everest there is a it’s designed now equipped for large amounts
designed now equipped for large amounts
designed now equipped for large amounts of climbers to go up there it’s not the
of climbers to go up there it’s not the
of climbers to go up there it’s not the challenge that it was 60 50 years ago
challenge that it was 60 50 years ago
challenge that it was 60 50 years ago rather it’s becoming more mainstream
rather it’s becoming more mainstream
rather it’s becoming more mainstream there’s probably 500 climbers that go
there’s probably 500 climbers that go
there’s probably 500 climbers that go there each day and it’s a great point is
there each day and it’s a great point is
there each day and it’s a great point is to look at risk that is is out of what
to look at risk that is is out of what
to look at risk that is is out of what you’re doing and for me that greatest
you’re doing and for me that greatest
you’re doing and for me that greatest part would be the risk of getting a
part would be the risk of getting a
part would be the risk of getting a stomach infection on the easy and when I
stomach infection on the easy and when I
stomach infection on the easy and when I travel or the risk due to a political
travel or the risk due to a political
travel or the risk due to a political strife and someone wanting to to be with
strife and someone wanting to to be with
strife and someone wanting to to be with that but I found it in anytime that
that but I found it in anytime that
that but I found it in anytime that there’s a between cultures that if you
there’s a between cultures that if you
there’s a between cultures that if you watch it with dignity and respect to
watch it with dignity and respect to
watch it with dignity and respect to each culture then you tend to smooth
each culture then you tend to smooth
each culture then you tend to smooth things out right yes that’s a good
things out right yes that’s a good
things out right yes that’s a good answer um what risks won’t you take have
answer um what risks won’t you take have
answer um what risks won’t you take have you ever been confronted with something
you ever been confronted with something
you ever been confronted with something we’ve said no that doesn’t fit into you
we’ve said no that doesn’t fit into you
we’ve said no that doesn’t fit into you know there’s all sorts of things that
know there’s all sorts of things that
know there’s all sorts of things that are attractive to me about that but I’m
are attractive to me about that but I’m
are attractive to me about that but I’m actually not going to take that step
actually not going to take that step
actually not going to take that step forward I’m all right sorry I certainly
forward I’m all right sorry I certainly
forward I’m all right sorry I certainly have some risks I that I’m not willing
have some risks I that I’m not willing
have some risks I that I’m not willing to take I’ve climbed up Mount Washington
to take I’ve climbed up Mount Washington
to take I’ve climbed up Mount Washington when I was 10 12 years old but but now
when I was 10 12 years old but but now
when I was 10 12 years old but but now I’m looking a little bit beyond even
I’m looking a little bit beyond even
I’m looking a little bit beyond even beyond the moon and Conrad do you
beyond the moon and Conrad do you
beyond the moon and Conrad do you realize that Mount Olympus on Mars is
realize that Mount Olympus on Mars is
realize that Mount Olympus on Mars is 90,000 feet high so when you think
90,000 feet high so when you think
90,000 feet high so when you think you’ve really done something I just
you’ve really done something I just
you’ve really done something I just think about wearing the spacesuit and
think about wearing the spacesuit and
think about wearing the spacesuit and trying to climb up olympus mons yeah
trying to climb up olympus mons yeah
trying to climb up olympus mons yeah that would be good also we need to get
that would be good also we need to get
that would be good also we need to get the first ascent of the mood because the
the first ascent of the mood because the
the first ascent of the mood because the the high point of the moon hasn’t been
the high point of the moon hasn’t been
the high point of the moon hasn’t been reached yet so the equivalent of I mean
reached yet so the equivalent of I mean
reached yet so the equivalent of I mean they’d be great to get more get
they’d be great to get more get
they’d be great to get more get explorers up onto the moon just to show
explorers up onto the moon just to show
explorers up onto the moon just to show that we can do it and we can it’s that
that we can do it and we can it’s that
that we can do it and we can it’s that first step and then making that next
first step and then making that next
first step and then making that next step out to Mars and Olympus Mons is it
step out to Mars and Olympus Mons is it
step out to Mars and Olympus Mons is it looms big in the the history in the
looms big in the the history in the
looms big in the the history in the figure of climbing everyone talks about
figure of climbing everyone talks about
figure of climbing everyone talks about that is the ultimate climb and yeah
that is the ultimate climb and yeah
that is the ultimate climb and yeah there’s it’s pretty popular you’re aware
there’s it’s pretty popular you’re aware
there’s it’s pretty popular you’re aware of it well I I like to go in the other
of it well I I like to go in the other
of it well I I like to go in the other direction I’ve been down to see the
direction I’ve been down to see the
direction I’ve been down to see the Titanic in a yellow submarine with
Titanic in a yellow submarine with
Titanic in a yellow submarine with Frenchman and believe it or not Jim
Frenchman and believe it or not Jim
Frenchman and believe it or not Jim Cameron asked me at one time if I would
Cameron asked me at one time if I would
Cameron asked me at one time if I would accompany him down to the deepest part
accompany him down to the deepest part
accompany him down to the deepest part of the ocean I think when he found out
of the ocean I think when he found out
of the ocean I think when he found out the details of putting a submersible
the details of putting a submersible
the details of putting a submersible together he found that it was going to
together he found that it was going to
together he found that it was going to be much easier for just one person and
be much easier for just one person and
be much easier for just one person and and and not two people that’s okay with
and and not two people that’s okay with
and and not two people that’s okay with me I am I think going down see the
me I am I think going down see the
me I am I think going down see the Titanic is is enough the North Pole but
Titanic is is enough the North Pole but
Titanic is is enough the North Pole but I’ve got to get to the South Pole and I
I’ve got to get to the South Pole and I
I’ve got to get to the South Pole and I am looking forward to maybe doing that
am looking forward to maybe doing that
am looking forward to maybe doing that believe it or not by driving Hummers to
believe it or not by driving Hummers to
believe it or not by driving Hummers to the South Pole on a state to call it a
the South Pole on a state to call it a
the South Pole on a state to call it a road it’s really an ice trail because
road it’s really an ice trail because
road it’s really an ice trail because people down an Antarctic found it just
people down an Antarctic found it just
people down an Antarctic found it just so expensive and the weather so
so expensive and the weather so
so expensive and the weather so undependable to carry fuel down to the
undependable to carry fuel down to the
undependable to carry fuel down to the spouse South Pole Station that that
spouse South Pole Station that that
spouse South Pole Station that that they’re now driving it down there and
they’re now driving it down there and
they’re now driving it down there and it’s much more dependable and economic
it’s much more dependable and economic
it’s much more dependable and economic but anyway we’ve been trying to do that
but anyway we’ve been trying to do that
but anyway we’ve been trying to do that for several years and I just don’t know
for several years and I just don’t know
for several years and I just don’t know whether it’s going to pan out or not
whether it’s going to pan out or not
whether it’s going to pan out or not this November December it’s very
this November December it’s very
this November December it’s very exciting plans that I think so we have
exciting plans that I think so we have
exciting plans that I think so we have one more question from Donald plot Pratt
one more question from Donald plot Pratt
one more question from Donald plot Pratt on google+ before we’re going to go to
on google+ before we’re going to go to
on google+ before we’re going to go to your questions from our youngest viewer
your questions from our youngest viewer
your questions from our youngest viewer on our hangout Donald Pratt is asking
on our hangout Donald Pratt is asking
on our hangout Donald Pratt is asking besides the risk this is quite a cute
besides the risk this is quite a cute
besides the risk this is quite a cute one besides the risks you’ve taken in
one besides the risks you’ve taken in
one besides the risks you’ve taken in exploring in adulthood what was the
exploring in adulthood what was the
exploring in adulthood what was the riskiest thing that you did before you
riskiest thing that you did before you
riskiest thing that you did before you turn 21 and do you regret
turn 21 and do you regret
turn 21 and do you regret taking any of the risks before you a
taking any of the risks before you a
taking any of the risks before you a fully-fledged adult and obviously we’re
fully-fledged adult and obviously we’re
fully-fledged adult and obviously we’re keeping it PG because it’s a family show
well I saw somebody else use a pole and
well I saw somebody else use a pole and put it in the ground and allow them to
put it in the ground and allow them to
put it in the ground and allow them to go up a little bit higher so I became a
go up a little bit higher so I became a
go up a little bit higher so I became a pole vaulter and occasionally way back
pole vaulter and occasionally way back
pole vaulter and occasionally way back in those days you’d be on your way up
in those days you’d be on your way up
in those days you’d be on your way up and all of a sudden the bamboo wood part
and all of a sudden the bamboo wood part
and all of a sudden the bamboo wood part in the middle and break and zooming you
in the middle and break and zooming you
in the middle and break and zooming you into the into the sawdust pit you don’t
into the into the sawdust pit you don’t
into the into the sawdust pit you don’t anticipate that that’s really going to
anticipate that that’s really going to
anticipate that that’s really going to happen but when it does there’s not very
happen but when it does there’s not very
happen but when it does there’s not very much you can do about it except for the
much you can do about it except for the
much you can do about it except for the law for the ride yeah some of the
law for the ride yeah some of the
law for the ride yeah some of the earlier climbs that I had done what
earlier climbs that I had done what
earlier climbs that I had done what before I really knew the systems in the
before I really knew the systems in the
before I really knew the systems in the rope and everything and I look back at
rope and everything and I look back at
rope and everything and I look back at the mistakes I made and of course their
the mistakes I made and of course their
the mistakes I made and of course their experience and they taught me to be a
experience and they taught me to be a
experience and they taught me to be a better climber but I was some of those
better climber but I was some of those
better climber but I was some of those climbers when I was young and 14 15
climbers when I was young and 14 15
climbers when I was young and 14 15 something like that I recall just
something like that I recall just
something like that I recall just getting away with the skin of my teeth
getting away with the skin of my teeth
getting away with the skin of my teeth and having prevented death and really
and having prevented death and really
and having prevented death and really upset my parents so that was it’s those
upset my parents so that was it’s those
upset my parents so that was it’s those formative climbs that I went through
formative climbs that I went through
formative climbs that I went through right maybe the menu today everyone
right maybe the menu today everyone
right maybe the menu today everyone saying these people that kind of spread
saying these people that kind of spread
saying these people that kind of spread their arms out and they have some cloth
their arms out and they have some cloth
their arms out and they have some cloth or canvas structure and they’re able to
or canvas structure and they’re able to
or canvas structure and they’re able to come down and fly and around and a
come down and fly and around and a
come down and fly and around and a couple of them with smoke coming out I
couple of them with smoke coming out I
couple of them with smoke coming out I said this what I say d1 I need you sign
said this what I say d1 I need you sign
said this what I say d1 I need you sign on us no I I saw this one guy he was
on us no I I saw this one guy he was
on us no I I saw this one guy he was going to fly through a hole in the
going to fly through a hole in the
going to fly through a hole in the mountain and I thought that really takes
mountain and I thought that really takes
mountain and I thought that really takes guts guys going on to is terrifying yeah
guts guys going on to is terrifying yeah
guts guys going on to is terrifying yeah it’s free it’s terrifying yeah I’m not
it’s free it’s terrifying yeah I’m not
it’s free it’s terrifying yeah I’m not sure it’s a little bit crazy you know I
sure it’s a little bit crazy you know I
sure it’s a little bit crazy you know I can’t do bungee jumping either I really
can’t do bungee jumping either I really
can’t do bungee jumping either I really don’t have to put my life on a rubber
don’t have to put my life on a rubber
don’t have to put my life on a rubber cord a parachute yes I might have to
cord a parachute yes I might have to
cord a parachute yes I might have to eject but I’m not going
eject but I’m not going
eject but I’m not going they jump out of an airplane when the
they jump out of an airplane when the
they jump out of an airplane when the engine is running properly I’d rather
engine is running properly I’d rather
engine is running properly I’d rather come down and emotionally and land on
come down and emotionally and land on
come down and emotionally and land on the runway okay well we have a question
the runway okay well we have a question
the runway okay well we have a question now I think is from our very youngest
now I think is from our very youngest
now I think is from our very youngest participant today who is Noah from
participant today who is Noah from
participant today who is Noah from Northumberland in England and this is a
Northumberland in England and this is a
Northumberland in England and this is a nice question I think for you both
you’re gonna have to interpret I can see
you’re gonna have to interpret I can see him I can see him but I can’t hear him
him I can see him but I can’t hear him
him I can see him but I can’t hear him but I think that maybe I think we might
but I think that maybe I think we might
but I think that maybe I think we might try and play it again let’s try one more
try and play it again let’s try one more
try and play it again let’s try one more time about my family I’ll repeat it for
time about my family I’ll repeat it for
time about my family I’ll repeat it for you he said buzz you’re very very brave
you he said buzz you’re very very brave
you he said buzz you’re very very brave does your little boy want to be a
does your little boy want to be a
does your little boy want to be a spaceman like you and I know who wrote
spaceman like you and I know who wrote
spaceman like you and I know who wrote forward to your boots I think that’s a
forward to your boots I think that’s a
forward to your boots I think that’s a very sweet question yeah well my
very sweet question yeah well my
very sweet question yeah well my youngest son did write the foreword to
youngest son did write the foreword to
youngest son did write the foreword to my book mission to Mars and and I’m very
my book mission to Mars and and I’m very
my book mission to Mars and and I’m very proud of him for doing that he also was
proud of him for doing that he also was
proud of him for doing that he also was a football player but he’s a Rocket Man
a football player but he’s a Rocket Man
a football player but he’s a Rocket Man but but he literally lights the fuse on
but but he literally lights the fuse on
but but he literally lights the fuse on a rocket that goes up and gets paid more
a rocket that goes up and gets paid more
a rocket that goes up and gets paid more for doing that then I get got paid for
for doing that then I get got paid for
for doing that then I get got paid for being on the top of the rocket going up
being on the top of the rocket going up
being on the top of the rocket going up we’ll have to tell know that and then
we’ll have to tell know that and then
we’ll have to tell know that and then one day he’ll be getting paid more money
one day he’ll be getting paid more money
one day he’ll be getting paid more money than his dad who’s in that year I think
than his dad who’s in that year I think
than his dad who’s in that year I think this will see how that goes Conrad what
this will see how that goes Conrad what
this will see how that goes Conrad what about you when you think about you know
about you when you think about you know
about you when you think about you know inspiring the next generation as buzz
inspiring the next generation as buzz
inspiring the next generation as buzz has done for a lot of younger people and
has done for a lot of younger people and
has done for a lot of younger people and as you do now in your field I mean what
as you do now in your field I mean what
as you do now in your field I mean what are the I know there’s a lot of
are the I know there’s a lot of
are the I know there’s a lot of community groups that you work with in
community groups that you work with in
community groups that you work with in when you’re climbing I bobbing my
when you’re climbing I bobbing my
when you’re climbing I bobbing my greatest inspiration when I connect with
greatest inspiration when I connect with
greatest inspiration when I connect with school children and when someone asks
school children and when someone asks
school children and when someone asks well Everest has been climbed
well Everest has been climbed
well Everest has been climbed we’ve been to the moon we’re hopefully
we’ve been to the moon we’re hopefully
we’ve been to the moon we’re hopefully going to Mars we’re doing all these
going to Mars we’re doing all these
going to Mars we’re doing all these great things what’s the next frontier of
great things what’s the next frontier of
great things what’s the next frontier of exploration and I always explain and try
exploration and I always explain and try
exploration and I always explain and try to motivate them that it’s in the
to motivate them that it’s in the
to motivate them that it’s in the sciences and in the nanosphere and
sciences and in the nanosphere and
sciences and in the nanosphere and there’s all this knowledge out there
there’s all this knowledge out there
there’s all this knowledge out there that’s not found so it’s what Livingston
that’s not found so it’s what Livingston
that’s not found so it’s what Livingston was doing on who’s seeking the source of
was doing on who’s seeking the source of
was doing on who’s seeking the source of nile Lewis and Clark across North
nile Lewis and Clark across North
nile Lewis and Clark across North America and then eventually on to
America and then eventually on to
America and then eventually on to Everest and then the moon all these
Everest and then the moon all these
Everest and then the moon all these we’ve met those terrestrial and lunar
we’ve met those terrestrial and lunar
we’ve met those terrestrial and lunar goals of exploration we now need to look
goals of exploration we now need to look
goals of exploration we now need to look into it and so the metaphorical crossing
into it and so the metaphorical crossing
into it and so the metaphorical crossing of Antarctica is finding solutions on
of Antarctica is finding solutions on
of Antarctica is finding solutions on how we can feed shelter in clothes seven
how we can feed shelter in clothes seven
how we can feed shelter in clothes seven billion people today and probably 9
billion people today and probably 9
billion people today and probably 9 billion by Noah’s will know as a young
billion by Noah’s will know as a young
billion by Noah’s will know as a young man and young adult and a leader
man and young adult and a leader
man and young adult and a leader there’ll be 9 billion people here so
there’ll be 9 billion people here so
there’ll be 9 billion people here so solving that that’s kind of the the goal
solving that that’s kind of the the goal
solving that that’s kind of the the goal and why I encourage exploration and in
and why I encourage exploration and in
and why I encourage exploration and in why we do need to take a certain degree
why we do need to take a certain degree
why we do need to take a certain degree of risk in pursuing that yeah that’s
of risk in pursuing that yeah that’s
of risk in pursuing that yeah that’s great um okay buzz anything to add to
great um okay buzz anything to add to
great um okay buzz anything to add to that before moving to some quickfire
that before moving to some quickfire
that before moving to some quickfire questions well of course the space
questions well of course the space
questions well of course the space program is going to take people from
program is going to take people from
program is going to take people from Earth somewhere else but we’re certainly
Earth somewhere else but we’re certainly
Earth somewhere else but we’re certainly not going to solve the overpopulation
not going to solve the overpopulation
not going to solve the overpopulation problem here on earth we just won’t be
problem here on earth we just won’t be
problem here on earth we just won’t be building spacecraft big enough to to be
building spacecraft big enough to to be
building spacecraft big enough to to be able to do that I think we need to
able to do that I think we need to
able to do that I think we need to marshal our behavior here on earth so we
marshal our behavior here on earth so we
marshal our behavior here on earth so we can learn how to improve the situations
can learn how to improve the situations
can learn how to improve the situations when we go somewhere else yeah that that
when we go somewhere else yeah that that
when we go somewhere else yeah that that the moon is a it requires just way too
the moon is a it requires just way too
the moon is a it requires just way too much to to make it hospitable but Mars
much to to make it hospitable but Mars
much to to make it hospitable but Mars is a much much better place beside it
is a much much better place beside it
is a much much better place beside it costs a lot of money to bring people
costs a lot of money to bring people
costs a lot of money to bring people back from there too yeah that actually
back from there too yeah that actually
back from there too yeah that actually brings us to a question of a quick fire
brings us to a question of a quick fire
brings us to a question of a quick fire round which either of you consider
round which either of you consider
round which either of you consider living on Mars if you had the chance
living on Mars if you had the chance
living on Mars if you had the chance even if it was a one-way ticket well I I
even if it was a one-way ticket well I I
even if it was a one-way ticket well I I can answer that I know what it entails I
can answer that I know what it entails I
can answer that I know what it entails I know the challenges of getting along
know the challenges of getting along
know the challenges of getting along with
with
with people that probably not been my strong
people that probably not been my strong
people that probably not been my strong suit it is thinking about new and
suit it is thinking about new and
suit it is thinking about new and different and better ways to do things
different and better ways to do things
different and better ways to do things and I need a big team behind me I don’t
and I need a big team behind me I don’t
and I need a big team behind me I don’t like to be lonely I like to prepare
like to be lonely I like to prepare
like to be lonely I like to prepare other people to do the things that will
other people to do the things that will
other people to do the things that will be remarkable and and I’ll rely on my
be remarkable and and I’ll rely on my
be remarkable and and I’ll rely on my intellect to try and use the experience
intellect to try and use the experience
intellect to try and use the experience and guide people into bigger and better
and guide people into bigger and better
and guide people into bigger and better things it sounds good kanade I’d sign up
things it sounds good kanade I’d sign up
things it sounds good kanade I’d sign up tomorrow so I’m totally game I I’m 50
tomorrow so I’m totally game I I’m 50
tomorrow so I’m totally game I I’m 50 years old I’ve seen great things and if
years old I’ve seen great things and if
years old I’ve seen great things and if I spent the next 50 years of my life if
I spent the next 50 years of my life if
I spent the next 50 years of my life if I live that long on Mars I would be I
I live that long on Mars I would be I
I live that long on Mars I would be I would love it i would do geology i would
would love it i would do geology i would
would love it i would do geology i would i would try to do things it’s not that
i would try to do things it’s not that
i would try to do things it’s not that we would want to be there but i would i
we would want to be there but i would i
we would want to be there but i would i would sign up for and then with
would sign up for and then with
would sign up for and then with technology as it is today the ability to
technology as it is today the ability to
technology as it is today the ability to communicate between the Earth and Mars
communicate between the Earth and Mars
communicate between the Earth and Mars we would keep me close to it and we
we would keep me close to it and we
we would keep me close to it and we would find a way to do it but it would
would find a way to do it but it would
would find a way to do it but it would just be to be that person that that that
just be to be that person that that that
just be to be that person that that that took that that first commandment to be
took that that first commandment to be
took that that first commandment to be on Mars even it was a one-way ticket I’d
on Mars even it was a one-way ticket I’d
on Mars even it was a one-way ticket I’d be like yeah let’s go ah I I just don’t
be like yeah let’s go ah I I just don’t
be like yeah let’s go ah I I just don’t like that one way ticket business I like
like that one way ticket business I like
like that one way ticket business I like the the positive way of saying we’re
the the positive way of saying we’re
the the positive way of saying we’re going to create permanence of human
going to create permanence of human
going to create permanence of human beings that for thousands of years have
beings that for thousands of years have
beings that for thousands of years have been here imprisoned by gravity to the
been here imprisoned by gravity to the
been here imprisoned by gravity to the one planet earth and we’re now on the
one planet earth and we’re now on the
one planet earth and we’re now on the verge of making a commitment to extend
verge of making a commitment to extend
verge of making a commitment to extend human habitation growing permanence on
human habitation growing permanence on
human habitation growing permanence on another planet in the Solar System and
another planet in the Solar System and
another planet in the Solar System and that is a big deal in the unfolding of
that is a big deal in the unfolding of
that is a big deal in the unfolding of human history and I always take the
human history and I always take the
human history and I always take the opportunity to remind whoever’s
opportunity to remind whoever’s
opportunity to remind whoever’s listening in that the president who
listening in that the president who
listening in that the president who makes that kind of a commitment is going
makes that kind of a commitment is going
makes that kind of a commitment is going to go down in history for hundreds of
to go down in history for hundreds of
to go down in history for hundreds of thousands of years that’s right I think
thousands of years that’s right I think
thousands of years that’s right I think that’s an awesome question that was Jeff
that’s an awesome question that was Jeff
that’s an awesome question that was Jeff diamond from my
diamond from my
diamond from my chusetts on google+ I have to credit him
chusetts on google+ I have to credit him
chusetts on google+ I have to credit him with that okay so we’re going to move on
with that okay so we’re going to move on
with that okay so we’re going to move on to thinking about the future and what’s
to thinking about the future and what’s
to thinking about the future and what’s next really I mean where are we in the
next really I mean where are we in the
next really I mean where are we in the global story the risk in the past versus
global story the risk in the past versus
global story the risk in the past versus risk in the future question for Conrad
risk in the future question for Conrad
risk in the future question for Conrad from Missha on youtube has evolving
from Missha on youtube has evolving
from Missha on youtube has evolving technology made climbing and exploration
technology made climbing and exploration
technology made climbing and exploration more accessible over the years
more accessible over the years
more accessible over the years technology certainly has it’s um
technology certainly has it’s um
technology certainly has it’s um obviously we’re great engineers and
obviously we’re great engineers and
obviously we’re great engineers and there’s no mountain we couldn’t build a
there’s no mountain we couldn’t build a
there’s no mountain we couldn’t build a cable car or a road to the top of it so
cable car or a road to the top of it so
cable car or a road to the top of it so the challenge the adventure we get in
the challenge the adventure we get in
the challenge the adventure we get in climbing is by doing it with less
climbing is by doing it with less
climbing is by doing it with less equipment and less stuff so you’re
equipment and less stuff so you’re
equipment and less stuff so you’re you’re creating that adventure in that
you’re creating that adventure in that
you’re creating that adventure in that challenge but I come back to thinking
challenge but I come back to thinking
challenge but I come back to thinking that the big challenge is the big
that the big challenge is the big
that the big challenge is the big exploration the big risk stories the
exploration the big risk stories the
exploration the big risk stories the next hundred years are going to be ones
next hundred years are going to be ones
next hundred years are going to be ones that that involve and and sort of
that that involve and and sort of
that that involve and and sort of include all the humans and how we’re
include all the humans and how we’re
include all the humans and how we’re going to address the next 200 years and
going to address the next 200 years and
going to address the next 200 years and those are that’s a great big unknown out
those are that’s a great big unknown out
those are that’s a great big unknown out there but calming because it’s
there but calming because it’s
there but calming because it’s adventurous and at risk it keeps that
adventurous and at risk it keeps that
adventurous and at risk it keeps that spirit in that gene alive right yeah
spirit in that gene alive right yeah
spirit in that gene alive right yeah it’s a great metaphor for what we need
it’s a great metaphor for what we need
it’s a great metaphor for what we need to do yeah my choice would be to use a
to do yeah my choice would be to use a
to do yeah my choice would be to use a helicopter to go to the top of Mount
helicopter to go to the top of Mount
helicopter to go to the top of Mount Everest I think some of them could do
Everest I think some of them could do
Everest I think some of them could do that but you know we choose to use the
that but you know we choose to use the
that but you know we choose to use the words we choose to do this not because
words we choose to do this not because
words we choose to do this not because it’s easy but because it’s hard and I
it’s easy but because it’s hard and I
it’s easy but because it’s hard and I think that embodies the the human spirit
think that embodies the the human spirit
think that embodies the the human spirit really tackle objectives to see that we
really tackle objectives to see that we
really tackle objectives to see that we can do what hasn’t been done or what
can do what hasn’t been done or what
can do what hasn’t been done or what challenges the rumen adventure and and
challenges the rumen adventure and and
challenges the rumen adventure and and does something that will be admired
does something that will be admired
does something that will be admired appreciated and sometimes rewarded
appreciated and sometimes rewarded
appreciated and sometimes rewarded sometimes not what do you think what
sometimes not what do you think what
sometimes not what do you think what advice would you have asks Elizabeth man
advice would you have asks Elizabeth man
advice would you have asks Elizabeth man on Twitter for these new generations of
on Twitter for these new generations of
on Twitter for these new generations of explorers who do perhaps more than any
explorers who do perhaps more than any
explorers who do perhaps more than any other time in history have to think
other time in history have to think
other time in history have to think about you know the legacy that they
about you know the legacy that they
about you know the legacy that they leave behind in terms of the
leave behind in terms of the
leave behind in terms of the sources that we have left I mean what
sources that we have left I mean what
sources that we have left I mean what what do you have what advice might you
what do you have what advice might you
what do you have what advice might you have if they have families how did they
have if they have families how did they
have if they have families how did they get involved in in thinking about these
get involved in in thinking about these
get involved in in thinking about these things well I certainly I talked to a
things well I certainly I talked to a
things well I certainly I talked to a number of people who cherish their
number of people who cherish their
number of people who cherish their participation 40 50 years ago in the
participation 40 50 years ago in the
participation 40 50 years ago in the Apollo program so being a team member
Apollo program so being a team member
Apollo program so being a team member when you contribute what you can as an
when you contribute what you can as an
when you contribute what you can as an individual to the success of the
individual to the success of the
individual to the success of the combined effort is really a great treat
combined effort is really a great treat
combined effort is really a great treat for some human being to be able to do
for some human being to be able to do
for some human being to be able to do not everybody can be as at the point of
not everybody can be as at the point of
not everybody can be as at the point of the spear or carrying out the the big
the spear or carrying out the the big
the spear or carrying out the the big step even though it’s a small step at
step even though it’s a small step at
step even though it’s a small step at the moon it’ll be a giant leap for
the moon it’ll be a giant leap for
the moon it’ll be a giant leap for permanence on Mars yeah and Conrad what
permanence on Mars yeah and Conrad what
permanence on Mars yeah and Conrad what do you think ripe for families and the
do you think ripe for families and the
do you think ripe for families and the people that are out there the spirit of
people that are out there the spirit of
people that are out there the spirit of exploration and risk if you can bring it
exploration and risk if you can bring it
exploration and risk if you can bring it into your life and bring into your heart
into your life and bring into your heart
into your life and bring into your heart and on the weekend go out with your
and on the weekend go out with your
and on the weekend go out with your family or friends and go for a hike and
family or friends and go for a hike and
family or friends and go for a hike and sort of get out there and do something a
sort of get out there and do something a
sort of get out there and do something a little out of your comfort range get
little out of your comfort range get
little out of your comfort range get hungry get rained on get showered upon
hungry get rained on get showered upon
hungry get rained on get showered upon so you come back and you’re like wow
so you come back and you’re like wow
so you come back and you’re like wow that’s what it’s like to be human and
that’s what it’s like to be human and
that’s what it’s like to be human and then willingness to take that on that
then willingness to take that on that
then willingness to take that on that that the hard work and the diligence and
that the hard work and the diligence and
that the hard work and the diligence and suffering that that great things require
suffering that that great things require
suffering that that great things require that building that spirit into it will
that building that spirit into it will
that building that spirit into it will collectively as buzz pointed out that’s
collectively as buzz pointed out that’s
collectively as buzz pointed out that’s what we need to get us up there to Mars
what we need to get us up there to Mars
what we need to get us up there to Mars yeah yeah there is this sense that you
yeah yeah there is this sense that you
yeah yeah there is this sense that you know amongst a lot of people that we
know amongst a lot of people that we
know amongst a lot of people that we only have the younger generation have
only have the younger generation have
only have the younger generation have perhaps more of an academic relationship
perhaps more of an academic relationship
perhaps more of an academic relationship with nature in that they can give us all
with nature in that they can give us all
with nature in that they can give us all the statistics on climate change but
the statistics on climate change but
the statistics on climate change but maybe have never slept in a tent before
maybe have never slept in a tent before
maybe have never slept in a tent before so you know sort of like you need the
so you know sort of like you need the
so you know sort of like you need the balance of both to move forward and I
balance of both to move forward and I
balance of both to move forward and I think you to embody that that’s sort of
think you to embody that that’s sort of
think you to embody that that’s sort of excitement about the world around us and
excitement about the world around us and
excitement about the world around us and really rolling up your sleeves and get
really rolling up your sleeves and get
really rolling up your sleeves and get in your hands in getting getting
in your hands in getting getting
in your hands in getting getting involved in it is there anything that
involved in it is there anything that
involved in it is there anything that you want to share with us about any
you want to share with us about any
you want to share with us about any your projects that you’re involved in
your projects that you’re involved in
your projects that you’re involved in now because we start to sort of gets a
now because we start to sort of gets a
now because we start to sort of gets a few more questions in and before we
few more questions in and before we
few more questions in and before we start to wrap up in a few minutes is
start to wrap up in a few minutes is
start to wrap up in a few minutes is there anything you’d like to tell me
there anything you’d like to tell me
there anything you’d like to tell me about well what one thing that I’m
about well what one thing that I’m
about well what one thing that I’m involved in maybe for another six months
involved in maybe for another six months
involved in maybe for another six months or so it has to do with the law that was
or so it has to do with the law that was
or so it has to do with the law that was passed back in 08 that allows veterans
passed back in 08 that allows veterans
passed back in 08 that allows veterans to show the pride that they have in
to show the pride that they have in
to show the pride that they have in their service when the national anthem
their service when the national anthem
their service when the national anthem is played at ceremonial events sporting
is played at ceremonial events sporting
is played at ceremonial events sporting events that instead of putting their
events that instead of putting their
events that instead of putting their hand over their heart the way most
hand over their heart the way most
hand over their heart the way most others we may hand salute now so not
others we may hand salute now so not
others we may hand salute now so not only to the veterans need to know this
only to the veterans need to know this
only to the veterans need to know this for their own pride and comradeship with
for their own pride and comradeship with
for their own pride and comradeship with other people that they seek but the
other people that they seek but the
other people that they seek but the American people need to appreciate in a
American people need to appreciate in a
American people need to appreciate in a greater way the sacrifices that be that
greater way the sacrifices that be that
greater way the sacrifices that be that have been made and along that same line
have been made and along that same line
have been made and along that same line we have 22 suicides a day of veterans
we have 22 suicides a day of veterans
we have 22 suicides a day of veterans because of post-traumatic stress
because of post-traumatic stress
because of post-traumatic stress disorder and I’m trying to do what I can
disorder and I’m trying to do what I can
disorder and I’m trying to do what I can with my aviation background to provide a
with my aviation background to provide a
with my aviation background to provide a simple a simulator airplane flying and
simple a simulator airplane flying and
simple a simulator airplane flying and small flights to get a sense of
small flights to get a sense of
small flights to get a sense of achievement a sense of feeling good
achievement a sense of feeling good
achievement a sense of feeling good about yourself and and don’t dwell on
about yourself and and don’t dwell on
about yourself and and don’t dwell on your problems I know enough about that
your problems I know enough about that
your problems I know enough about that firsthand my up because I’ve I’ve fallen
firsthand my up because I’ve I’ve fallen
firsthand my up because I’ve I’ve fallen into that trap many times yeah and
into that trap many times yeah and
into that trap many times yeah and flipping the perspective is the way out
flipping the perspective is the way out
flipping the perspective is the way out often of these things that’s the way
often of these things that’s the way
often of these things that’s the way that you can walk a path out I mean that
that you can walk a path out I mean that
that you can walk a path out I mean that is that is the way ahead a Conrad what
is that is the way ahead a Conrad what
is that is the way ahead a Conrad what do you think about it in your field yeah
do you think about it in your field yeah
do you think about it in your field yeah similar to buzz I’ve got a project i’m
similar to buzz I’ve got a project i’m
similar to buzz I’ve got a project i’m working with veterans expeditions and
working with veterans expeditions and
working with veterans expeditions and our goal is to take them outdoors and go
our goal is to take them outdoors and go
our goal is to take them outdoors and go ice climbing mountaineering having them
ice climbing mountaineering having them
ice climbing mountaineering having them be witnesses of climate change and like
be witnesses of climate change and like
be witnesses of climate change and like getting them outdoors and have been
getting them outdoors and have been
getting them outdoors and have been giving them the opportunity to live and
giving them the opportunity to live and
giving them the opportunity to live and be me in the wilderness where they were
be me in the wilderness where they were
be me in the wilderness where they were willing to offer the ultimate sacrifice
willing to offer the ultimate sacrifice
willing to offer the ultimate sacrifice for that so it’s been
for that so it’s been
for that so it’s been great program addressing the sort of
great program addressing the sort of
great program addressing the sort of some of the challenges with that and
some of the challenges with that and
some of the challenges with that and then also looking to engage more people
then also looking to engage more people
then also looking to engage more people in science I and I’m a layperson
in science I and I’m a layperson
in science I and I’m a layperson scientist but the value of it and being
scientist but the value of it and being
scientist but the value of it and being able to get young people in fourth and
able to get young people in fourth and
able to get young people in fourth and fifth grade because sooner than later
fifth grade because sooner than later
fifth grade because sooner than later they’re going to be science technology
they’re going to be science technology
they’re going to be science technology engineering all those really core things
engineering all those really core things
engineering all those really core things that are the basis of where we need to
that are the basis of where we need to
that are the basis of where we need to be as a nation going forward yeah and
be as a nation going forward yeah and
be as a nation going forward yeah and then I guess um you know one more thing
then I guess um you know one more thing
then I guess um you know one more thing what would you do differently if you’re
what would you do differently if you’re
what would you do differently if you’re sort of 21 again starting out your
sort of 21 again starting out your
sort of 21 again starting out your careers would you what what advice would
careers would you what what advice would
careers would you what what advice would you have for people are what what would
you have for people are what what would
you have for people are what what would you specifically change about the path
you specifically change about the path
you specifically change about the path that you took because I think a lot of
that you took because I think a lot of
that you took because I think a lot of people would like to sort of figure out
people would like to sort of figure out
people would like to sort of figure out how to get into your shoes and be able
how to get into your shoes and be able
how to get into your shoes and be able to take the sort of risks that you have
to take the sort of risks that you have
to take the sort of risks that you have so what would you do differently I am a
so what would you do differently I am a
so what would you do differently I am a most grateful person for having grown up
most grateful person for having grown up
most grateful person for having grown up in the United States of America and
in the United States of America and
in the United States of America and having parents that nurtured me in in
having parents that nurtured me in in
having parents that nurtured me in in the development having an outstanding
the development having an outstanding
the development having an outstanding education system in my hometown taking
education system in my hometown taking
education system in my hometown taking advantage of serving my country and the
advantage of serving my country and the
advantage of serving my country and the discipline that goes along with a West
discipline that goes along with a West
discipline that goes along with a West Point education then I was fortunate
Point education then I was fortunate
Point education then I was fortunate enough to get involved in in combat in
enough to get involved in in combat in
enough to get involved in in combat in aircraft during the Korean War I even
aircraft during the Korean War I even
aircraft during the Korean War I even was on alert with nuclear weapons I’m
was on alert with nuclear weapons I’m
was on alert with nuclear weapons I’m five menit alert and if the this ayran
five menit alert and if the this ayran
five menit alert and if the this ayran went we were hopped in our airplanes and
went we were hopped in our airplanes and
went we were hopped in our airplanes and we deliver a nuclear weapon somewhere in
we deliver a nuclear weapon somewhere in
we deliver a nuclear weapon somewhere in Poland or Czechoslovakia there are a lot
Poland or Czechoslovakia there are a lot
Poland or Czechoslovakia there are a lot of people that were doing that and
of people that were doing that and
of people that were doing that and people just don’t realize that that that
people just don’t realize that that that
people just don’t realize that that that among many things are the sacrifices
among many things are the sacrifices
among many things are the sacrifices that are involved then of course I left
that are involved then of course I left
that are involved then of course I left out and
out and
out and managed to talk my way into the space
managed to talk my way into the space
managed to talk my way into the space program and and that brought about
program and and that brought about
program and and that brought about tremendous rewards not for everyone one
tremendous rewards not for everyone one
tremendous rewards not for everyone one of my very best friends at West Point
of my very best friends at West Point
of my very best friends at West Point and as a fighter pilot was ed white and
and as a fighter pilot was ed white and
and as a fighter pilot was ed white and he was killed in the Apollo 1 fire so
he was killed in the Apollo 1 fire so
he was killed in the Apollo 1 fire so there there are sacrifices their things
there there are sacrifices their things
there there are sacrifices their things unexpectedly that can come along and and
unexpectedly that can come along and and
unexpectedly that can come along and and some of us whether these challenges and
some of us whether these challenges and
some of us whether these challenges and enter able to succeed but we look back
enter able to succeed but we look back
enter able to succeed but we look back at those who also were very talented
at those who also were very talented
at those who also were very talented maybe even more talented than we are but
maybe even more talented than we are but
maybe even more talented than we are but we’re denied the opportunity for the
we’re denied the opportunity for the
we’re denied the opportunity for the same success that we had that’s right um
same success that we had that’s right um
same success that we had that’s right um Conrad is that how how do you answer
Conrad is that how how do you answer
Conrad is that how how do you answer that question the under-21 I’m happy
that question the under-21 I’m happy
that question the under-21 I’m happy where I am in life and everything I
where I am in life and everything I
where I am in life and everything I wouldn’t want to change anything if I
wouldn’t want to change anything if I
wouldn’t want to change anything if I were to do anything over again I would
were to do anything over again I would
were to do anything over again I would have stuck to playing music too late I
have stuck to playing music too late I
have stuck to playing music too late I hate that yeah but we could have done
hate that yeah but we could have done
hate that yeah but we could have done that but I’m uh I’m so happy in as was
that but I’m uh I’m so happy in as was
that but I’m uh I’m so happy in as was mentioned we’re so fortunate here in the
mentioned we’re so fortunate here in the
mentioned we’re so fortunate here in the United States to have the education
United States to have the education
United States to have the education system the support system and it yeah I
system the support system and it yeah I
system the support system and it yeah I would hey if I could at age 21 realize
would hey if I could at age 21 realize
would hey if I could at age 21 realize that it’s not about what you take but
that it’s not about what you take but
that it’s not about what you take but it’s about what you give back I think
it’s about what you give back I think
it’s about what you give back I think that for me would have been it took me
that for me would have been it took me
that for me would have been it took me later in life and it took me tragedy
later in life and it took me tragedy
later in life and it took me tragedy having lost friends and things like that
having lost friends and things like that
having lost friends and things like that to realize it’s not about us but how are
to realize it’s not about us but how are
to realize it’s not about us but how are we going to give back to the people that
we going to give back to the people that
we going to give back to the people that they’re coming after us because the
they’re coming after us because the
they’re coming after us because the people that came before escape to us
people that came before escape to us
people that came before escape to us right and then last question before we
right and then last question before we
right and then last question before we close can you give us a sense of who
close can you give us a sense of who
close can you give us a sense of who your favorite risk takers are and why
your favorite risk takers are and why
your favorite risk takers are and why and that’s just a really quick question
and that’s just a really quick question
and that’s just a really quick question well mine is a contemporary of my
well mine is a contemporary of my
well mine is a contemporary of my father’s who was an aviation pioneer he
father’s who was an aviation pioneer he
father’s who was an aviation pioneer he studied under Robert Goddard he was an
studied under Robert Goddard he was an
studied under Robert Goddard he was an aide to Billy Mitchell he grew up and
aide to Billy Mitchell he grew up and
aide to Billy Mitchell he grew up and was born in the same year as as a real
was born in the same year as as a real
was born in the same year as as a real famous aviator
famous aviator
famous aviator and the book was written about him 30
and the book was written about him 30
and the book was written about him 30 seconds over Tokyo and why was he why
seconds over Tokyo and why was he why
seconds over Tokyo and why was he why was he so inspirational well he
was he so inspirational well he
was he so inspirational well he certainly didn’t hesitate to take
certainly didn’t hesitate to take
certainly didn’t hesitate to take command of other people and lead them on
command of other people and lead them on
command of other people and lead them on one of the most daring missions of World
one of the most daring missions of World
one of the most daring missions of World War two and that’s the bombing of Tokyo
War two and that’s the bombing of Tokyo
War two and that’s the bombing of Tokyo which somehow affected the defense of
which somehow affected the defense of
which somehow affected the defense of Japan and made them keep a lot of forces
Japan and made them keep a lot of forces
Japan and made them keep a lot of forces there got out but but the courage to do
there got out but but the courage to do
there got out but but the courage to do what they did and that’s to take off
what they did and that’s to take off
what they did and that’s to take off from that carrier knowing that they have
from that carrier knowing that they have
from that carrier knowing that they have been sighted so that they couldn’t
been sighted so that they couldn’t
been sighted so that they couldn’t return back to the carrier but they had
return back to the carrier but they had
return back to the carrier but they had a crash land in China and take take
a crash land in China and take take
a crash land in China and take take their chances with survival that’s
their chances with survival that’s
their chances with survival that’s incredible and the Conrad what about
incredible and the Conrad what about
incredible and the Conrad what about yours current risk takers on the team
yours current risk takers on the team
yours current risk takers on the team over at Golden Spike they’re trying to
over at Golden Spike they’re trying to
over at Golden Spike they’re trying to get commercial aviation to this point
get commercial aviation to this point
get commercial aviation to this point where they can land people on the moon
where they can land people on the moon
where they can land people on the moon and when you do if this is going to be
and when you do if this is going to be
and when you do if this is going to be viable and needs to be viable and
viable and needs to be viable and
viable and needs to be viable and economic scale and being able to do that
economic scale and being able to do that
economic scale and being able to do that I think that that whole team is is
I think that that whole team is is
I think that that whole team is is putting it out there but they’re also
putting it out there but they’re also
putting it out there but they’re also opening it up to the marketplace and
opening it up to the marketplace and
opening it up to the marketplace and competitive engineering so I think that
competitive engineering so I think that
competitive engineering so I think that a combination of the NASA program that
a combination of the NASA program that
a combination of the NASA program that went on which was very much state planet
went on which was very much state planet
went on which was very much state planet to private enterprise so that that that
to private enterprise so that that that
to private enterprise so that that that would be in like on a big scale climbing
would be in like on a big scale climbing
would be in like on a big scale climbing there’s there’s really talented climbers
there’s there’s really talented climbers
there’s there’s really talented climbers out there they were doing crazy things
out there they were doing crazy things
out there they were doing crazy things but sort of the big picture would be
but sort of the big picture would be
but sort of the big picture would be this this chance to get people on the
this this chance to get people on the
this this chance to get people on the moon again right we’ve got a we’ve got a
moon again right we’ve got a we’ve got a
moon again right we’ve got a we’ve got a married couple that is going to in
married couple that is going to in
married couple that is going to in January 2018 launch to fly by Mars and
January 2018 launch to fly by Mars and
January 2018 launch to fly by Mars and come back 500 days later that’s a very
come back 500 days later that’s a very
come back 500 days later that’s a very challenging and the title of the program
challenging and the title of the program
challenging and the title of the program is inspiration Mars Glenda I think
is inspiration Mars Glenda I think
is inspiration Mars Glenda I think that’s going to do much to lift the
that’s going to do much to lift the
that’s going to do much to lift the spirits of those of us who seek further
spirits of those of us who seek further
spirits of those of us who seek further and further goals in our space program
and further goals in our space program
and further goals in our space program and extension of humanity
and extension of humanity
and extension of humanity outward also sounds like the ultimate
outward also sounds like the ultimate
outward also sounds like the ultimate reality show is a between between the
reality show is a between between the
reality show is a between between the moon Everest and Mars we have all the
moon Everest and Mars we have all the
moon Everest and Mars we have all the girls covered but you two are an
girls covered but you two are an
girls covered but you two are an incredible inspiration I think for the
incredible inspiration I think for the
incredible inspiration I think for the people who are watching and I think it’s
people who are watching and I think it’s
people who are watching and I think it’s lovely to hear you give an assessment of
lovely to hear you give an assessment of
lovely to hear you give an assessment of your stories on risk so thank you so
your stories on risk so thank you so
your stories on risk so thank you so much for joining us today and thank you
much for joining us today and thank you
much for joining us today and thank you to everybody joining the google hangout
to everybody joining the google hangout
to everybody joining the google hangout we’re going to wrap now and thank you
we’re going to wrap now and thank you
we’re going to wrap now and thank you for your questions to get closer to
for your questions to get closer to
for your questions to get closer to other national geographic risk takers
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