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the horse was this way to connect people

the horse was this way to connect people with their dreams for the future with

with their dreams for the future with

with their dreams for the future with their land with their culture with what

their land with their culture with what

their land with their culture with what made the most proud connected them with

made the most proud connected them with

made the most proud connected them with their ancestors into a history that

their ancestors into a history that

their ancestors into a history that wasn’t so long ago for them in Native

wasn’t so long ago for them in Native

wasn’t so long ago for them in Native Americans had what many consider a short

Americans had what many consider a short

Americans had what many consider a short but very intense 200 year relationship

but very intense 200 year relationship

but very intense 200 year relationship with the horse which transformed the

with the horse which transformed the

with the horse which transformed the culture this might have existed if the

culture this might have existed if the

culture this might have existed if the dates change a bit between the late

dates change a bit between the late

dates change a bit between the late 1600s to the late 1800s but I was sent

1600s to the late 1800s but I was sent

1600s to the late 1800s but I was sent to look at the modern day culture look

to look at the modern day culture look

to look at the modern day culture look at the horse and how it existed today

at the horse and how it existed today

at the horse and how it existed today what was this relationship what did it

what was this relationship what did it

what was this relationship what did it mean to people they showed me first it

mean to people they showed me first it

mean to people they showed me first it was a very deep spiritual connection the

was a very deep spiritual connection the

was a very deep spiritual connection the horse represented respect pride

horse represented respect pride

horse represented respect pride generosity strength medicine healing I

generosity strength medicine healing I

generosity strength medicine healing I saw the horse as a symbol of pride it

saw the horse as a symbol of pride it

saw the horse as a symbol of pride it was used in pageantry in parades in in

was used in pageantry in parades in in

was used in pageantry in parades in in racing and it was always adorned with

racing and it was always adorned with

racing and it was always adorned with the family or tribes best accoutrements

the family or tribes best accoutrements

the family or tribes best accoutrements this regalia everyone was so proud to

this regalia everyone was so proud to

this regalia everyone was so proud to display who they were and who their

display who they were and who their

display who they were and who their family was through the horse I also saw

family was through the horse I also saw

family was through the horse I also saw it as a means of an economic way of life

it as a means of an economic way of life

it as a means of an economic way of life a lot of families I met got their

a lot of families I met got their

a lot of families I met got their children into rodeo and these children

children into rodeo and these children

children into rodeo and these children are getting full rides to to college

are getting full rides to to college

are getting full rides to to college because of rodeo because of their

because of rodeo because of their

because of rodeo because of their relationship to the horse but most

relationship to the horse but most

relationship to the horse but most important for me and what I saw is most

important for me and what I saw is most

important for me and what I saw is most profound is the horse was this way to

profound is the horse was this way to

profound is the horse was this way to connect people with their ancestors with

connect people with their ancestors with

connect people with their ancestors with their land with their culture with what

their land with their culture with what

their land with their culture with what made the most proud connected them with

made the most proud connected them with

made the most proud connected them with their dreams for the future the return

their dreams for the future the return

their dreams for the future the return of the native every tribe I met said the

of the native every tribe I met said the

of the native every tribe I met said the horse has always been here to be honest

horse has always been here to be honest

horse has always been here to be honest I didn’t know what they meant by that

I didn’t know what they meant by that

I didn’t know what they meant by that because to me the horse came in 1400s

because to me the horse came in 1400s

because to me the horse came in 1400s they said no the horse has always been

they said no the horse has always been

they said no the horse has always been here the horse had been here 10 million

here the horse had been here 10 million

here the horse had been here 10 million years ago it moved its way east before

years ago it moved its way east before

years ago it moved its way east before becoming extinct in the Americas and did

becoming extinct in the Americas and did

becoming extinct in the Americas and did come back with Christopher Columbus on

come back with Christopher Columbus on

come back with Christopher Columbus on his second journey what I wanted to do

his second journey what I wanted to do

his second journey what I wanted to do was

was

was follow this path a little bit so I

follow this path a little bit so I

follow this path a little bit so I started in the south on Navajo Nation

started in the south on Navajo Nation

started in the south on Navajo Nation where I met Jones Banali

where I met Jones Banali

where I met Jones Banali and Jones is a medicine man and he works

and Jones is a medicine man and he works

and Jones is a medicine man and he works in tribal healthcare and he works along

in tribal healthcare and he works along

in tribal healthcare and he works along what he calls Western medicine but most

what he calls Western medicine but most

what he calls Western medicine but most of the patients that come to him for

of the patients that come to him for

of the patients that come to him for help

help

help gift him horses still today in exchange

gift him horses still today in exchange

gift him horses still today in exchange for his services

for his services

for his services and a lot of these horses that are given

and a lot of these horses that are given

and a lot of these horses that are given to him or order considered green or they

to him or order considered green or they

to him or order considered green or they haven’t been ridden or not ridden very

haven’t been ridden or not ridden very

haven’t been ridden or not ridden very much

much

much and his son clay sand works with these

and his son clay sand works with these

and his son clay sand works with these horses many of you here might have heard

horses many of you here might have heard

horses many of you here might have heard it it’s called breaking a horse but

it it’s called breaking a horse but

it it’s called breaking a horse but claisen said to me we don’t break horses

claisen said to me we don’t break horses

claisen said to me we don’t break horses he said I have no interest in breaking

he said I have no interest in breaking

he said I have no interest in breaking the spirit of a horse he said I need to

the spirit of a horse he said I need to

the spirit of a horse he said I need to understand a horse to get to know the

understand a horse to get to know the

understand a horse to get to know the horse and that’s when I can ride a horse

horse and that’s when I can ride a horse

horse and that’s when I can ride a horse and he says we employ if he wants to say

and he says we employ if he wants to say

and he says we employ if he wants to say it that way more gentle or means claisen

it that way more gentle or means claisen

it that way more gentle or means claisen said to me when I can kneel down and a

said to me when I can kneel down and a

said to me when I can kneel down and a horse can feel my breath and I feel his

horse can feel my breath and I feel his

horse can feel my breath and I feel his that’s when I’ve built the bond with the

that’s when I’ve built the bond with the

that’s when I’ve built the bond with the horse that’s when I can ride him and

horse that’s when I can ride him and

horse that’s when I can ride him and that horse is part of me forever and I

that horse is part of me forever and I

that horse is part of me forever and I am part of him and I moved my way north

am part of him and I moved my way north

am part of him and I moved my way north a bit and I saw the Nez Perce horse or

a bit and I saw the Nez Perce horse or

a bit and I saw the Nez Perce horse or the Appaloosa also at the Nez Perce land

the Appaloosa also at the Nez Perce land

the Appaloosa also at the Nez Perce land I met rosandjohn year-out they have a

I met rosandjohn year-out they have a

I met rosandjohn year-out they have a program called the Nez Perce Appaloosa

program called the Nez Perce Appaloosa

program called the Nez Perce Appaloosa horse Club and it’s to get youth tribal

horse Club and it’s to get youth tribal

horse Club and it’s to get youth tribal youth involved with the horse because to

youth involved with the horse because to

youth involved with the horse because to them they believe that when the youth

them they believe that when the youth

them they believe that when the youth become involved in the horse they become

become involved in the horse they become

become involved in the horse they become involved in their culture they become

involved in their culture they become

involved in their culture they become involved with understanding their

involved with understanding their

involved with understanding their history they understand their land more

history they understand their land more

history they understand their land more and they understand themselves more in

and they understand themselves more in

and they understand themselves more in brooke-taylor she’s 16 she said to me

brooke-taylor she’s 16 she said to me

brooke-taylor she’s 16 she said to me when I ride a horse and I walked the

when I ride a horse and I walked the

when I ride a horse and I walked the trail that my ancestors did she was I

trail that my ancestors did she was I

trail that my ancestors did she was I feel their suffering and she wasn’t I

feel their suffering and she wasn’t I

feel their suffering and she wasn’t I know that’s why I’m standing here today

know that’s why I’m standing here today

know that’s why I’m standing here today that’s why I do this and that’s why I’m

that’s why I do this and that’s why I’m

that’s why I do this and that’s why I’m connected to the horse

connected to the horse

connected to the horse I understand my people in my land more

I understand my people in my land more

I understand my people in my land more than ever before and the horse mask from

than ever before and the horse mask from

than ever before and the horse mask from the Nez Perce I was definitely in all of

the Nez Perce I was definitely in all of

the Nez Perce I was definitely in all of how they dress their horses and I wanted

how they dress their horses and I wanted

how they dress their horses and I wanted to explore that a little bit more and

to explore that a little bit more and

to explore that a little bit more and the horse mask was used for many reasons

the horse mask was used for many reasons

the horse mask was used for many reasons is used in battle to intimidate an

is used in battle to intimidate an

is used in battle to intimidate an opponent later it was used in hunting

opponent later it was used in hunting

opponent later it was used in hunting sometimes it could be a mask of a

sometimes it could be a mask of a

sometimes it could be a mask of a buffalo or the animal that they were

buffalo or the animal that they were

buffalo or the animal that they were hunting not so much to intimidate the

hunting not so much to intimidate the

hunting not so much to intimidate the animal but to to take the power of that

animal but to to take the power of that

animal but to to take the power of that animal and try to understand it and to

animal and try to understand it and to

animal and try to understand it and to be able to have a good harvest and I met

be able to have a good harvest and I met

be able to have a good harvest and I met a young boy named Adam’s fetus and he

a young boy named Adam’s fetus and he

a young boy named Adam’s fetus and he wanted to show me his horse and when I

wanted to show me his horse and when I

wanted to show me his horse and when I got there he had tied the end up and put

got there he had tied the end up and put

got there he had tied the end up and put a handprint on it and I’ve seen

a handprint on it and I’ve seen

a handprint on it and I’ve seen handprints and different types of

handprints and different types of

handprints and different types of symbols on horses and other places and

symbols on horses and other places and

symbols on horses and other places and it meant something different to everyone

it meant something different to everyone

it meant something different to everyone to Adam he said the handprint meant

to Adam he said the handprint meant

to Adam he said the handprint meant ownership and what he meant by ownership

ownership and what he meant by ownership

ownership and what he meant by ownership is he means that this force belongs to

is he means that this force belongs to

is he means that this force belongs to me he goes but it also belongs to my

me he goes but it also belongs to my

me he goes but it also belongs to my family and then he thought a little more

family and then he thought a little more

family and then he thought a little more you said it belongs to my tribe he said

you said it belongs to my tribe he said

you said it belongs to my tribe he said it belongs to my people so very

it belongs to my people so very

it belongs to my people so very interesting idea what is ownership I

interesting idea what is ownership I

interesting idea what is ownership I also met Katy Harris she’s Umatilla and

also met Katy Harris she’s Umatilla and

also met Katy Harris she’s Umatilla and Nez person kyuk and she’s involved in

Nez person kyuk and she’s involved in

Nez person kyuk and she’s involved in Indian pageantry and she showed me that

Indian pageantry and she showed me that

Indian pageantry and she showed me that it was a lot more than Beauty she said

it was a lot more than Beauty she said

it was a lot more than Beauty she said for me to participate in these pageants

for me to participate in these pageants

for me to participate in these pageants she said I have to have the knowledge of

she said I have to have the knowledge of

she said I have to have the knowledge of my language I have to have a knowledge

my language I have to have a knowledge

my language I have to have a knowledge of my culture and she goes but most

of my culture and she goes but most

of my culture and she goes but most important knowledge of my immediate

important knowledge of my immediate

important knowledge of my immediate family my grandmother did this I wanted

family my grandmother did this I wanted

family my grandmother did this I wanted to walk in the footsteps of my

to walk in the footsteps of my

to walk in the footsteps of my grandmother and understood why she did

grandmother and understood why she did

grandmother and understood why she did this and what she felt of course I went

this and what she felt of course I went

this and what she felt of course I went to crow fair you can’t want to learn

to crow fair you can’t want to learn

to crow fair you can’t want to learn something about the horse I’m not go to

something about the horse I’m not go to

something about the horse I’m not go to crow fair and that crow fair I heard a

crow fair and that crow fair I heard a

crow fair and that crow fair I heard a very similar thing that when we’re on a

very similar thing that when we’re on a

very similar thing that when we’re on a horse and we’re wearing this we’re not

horse and we’re wearing this we’re not

horse and we’re wearing this we’re not in a museum it’s not dead it’s living

in a museum it’s not dead it’s living

in a museum it’s not dead it’s living and that’s why we do this I was able to

and that’s why we do this I was able to

and that’s why we do this I was able to make some video and you could hear the

make some video and you could hear the

make some video and you could hear the voice of Jade Bronco

voice of Jade Bronco

voice of Jade Bronco he’s a Shawnee Bannock and he’s going to

he’s a Shawnee Bannock and he’s going to

he’s a Shawnee Bannock and he’s going to tell us what the horse means to him into

tell us what the horse means to him into

tell us what the horse means to him into his culture hey oh yeah

they tell you when the seasons gonna

they tell you when the seasons gonna change

change

change storms come in when bad people are

storms come in when bad people are

storms come in when bad people are around

around

around and good people around very teachers

and good people around very teachers

and good people around very teachers someone you could talk to your best

someone you could talk to your best

someone you could talk to your best friend

friend

friend some days he’s your only friend when

some days he’s your only friend when

some days he’s your only friend when you’re feeling bad they’re there they

you’re feeling bad they’re there they

you’re feeling bad they’re there they take care of you you know how you don’t

take care of you you know how you don’t

take care of you you know how you don’t they don’t jug you all they want to do

they don’t jug you all they want to do

they don’t jug you all they want to do is to be lovely they protect the little

is to be lovely they protect the little

is to be lovely they protect the little kids they’re so innocent but at the same

kids they’re so innocent but at the same

kids they’re so innocent but at the same time they’re they’re just as nice

apartment comes you you become part of

apartment comes you you become part of them just wrong Vaughn like hey hey I

continued on this is Philip Whiteman

continued on this is Philip Whiteman what I found most interesting and

what I found most interesting and

what I found most interesting and important about Philip is his work with

important about Philip is his work with

important about Philip is his work with youth him and his wife lit up two bulls

youth him and his wife lit up two bulls

youth him and his wife lit up two bulls hold a program on their ranch or on

hold a program on their ranch or on

hold a program on their ranch or on their home in lame deer he’s Northern

their home in lame deer he’s Northern

their home in lame deer he’s Northern Cheyenne and he said to me when I

Cheyenne and he said to me when I

Cheyenne and he said to me when I watched these little kids feed horses

watched these little kids feed horses

watched these little kids feed horses I’m very proud because I know when they

I’m very proud because I know when they

I’m very proud because I know when they feed a horse they’ll learn to feed

feed a horse they’ll learn to feed

feed a horse they’ll learn to feed themselves it’s the first time some of

themselves it’s the first time some of

themselves it’s the first time some of these kids will ever get to be on a

these kids will ever get to be on a

these kids will ever get to be on a horse and they watch and they’re really

horse and they watch and they’re really

horse and they watch and they’re really proud and they’ve watched her older

proud and they’ve watched her older

proud and they’ve watched her older brother get on two horse and they get

brother get on two horse and they get

brother get on two horse and they get very excited it’s something they really

very excited it’s something they really

very excited it’s something they really want to do and become really good at on

want to do and become really good at on

want to do and become really good at on the crow Reservation I met Michelle

the crow Reservation I met Michelle

the crow Reservation I met Michelle walking back she invited me to come stay

walking back she invited me to come stay

walking back she invited me to come stay with her and her family at their home

with her and her family at their home

with her and her family at their home for a little less than a week and she

for a little less than a week and she

for a little less than a week and she said because I want you to see that I

said because I want you to see that I

said because I want you to see that I just want you to see the daily life with

just want you to see the daily life with

just want you to see the daily life with horses she goes you know it’s not all

horses she goes you know it’s not all

horses she goes you know it’s not all about rodeos in parades she goes we just

about rodeos in parades she goes we just

about rodeos in parades she goes we just live with the horses they live about an

live with the horses they live about an

live with the horses they live about an hour away from from a main town so when

hour away from from a main town so when

hour away from from a main town so when her kids came home from school this is

her kids came home from school this is

her kids came home from school this is what they did and I saw the horses as

what they did and I saw the horses as

what they did and I saw the horses as their playmates and I saw that the horse

their playmates and I saw that the horse

their playmates and I saw that the horse carried the dreams and reflecting their

carried the dreams and reflecting their

carried the dreams and reflecting their dreams and making those dreams realities

dreams and making those dreams realities

dreams and making those dreams realities back on the Yakima reservation they hold

back on the Yakima reservation they hold

back on the Yakima reservation they hold what’s called a wild horse race they

what’s called a wild horse race they

what’s called a wild horse race they take green horses or horses that have

take green horses or horses that have

take green horses or horses that have never been ridden they have children do

never been ridden they have children do

never been ridden they have children do it as well as adults there’s usually

it as well as adults there’s usually

it as well as adults there’s usually three people on a team and the point is

three people on a team and the point is

three people on a team and the point is you have to catch the horse saddle it

you have to catch the horse saddle it

you have to catch the horse saddle it and ride it in the shortest amount of

and ride it in the shortest amount of

and ride it in the shortest amount of time and these horses are very wild but

time and these horses are very wild but

time and these horses are very wild but what I found most interesting is that

what I found most interesting is that

what I found most interesting is that this horse race is a memorial horse race

this horse race is a memorial horse race

this horse race is a memorial horse race called the hem Sol memorial horse race

called the hem Sol memorial horse race

called the hem Sol memorial horse race and had been going on for over 20 years

and had been going on for over 20 years

and had been going on for over 20 years it was made originally for their family

it was made originally for their family

it was made originally for their family to honor people that had died that year

to honor people that had died that year

to honor people that had died that year in their family but over the years

in their family but over the years

in their family but over the years anyone from the tribe or anyone from

anyone from the tribe or anyone from

anyone from the tribe or anyone from you could come and honor someone that

you could come and honor someone that

you could come and honor someone that had died in that past year for this race

had died in that past year for this race

had died in that past year for this race this is on the Yakima reservation in

this is on the Yakima reservation in

this is on the Yakima reservation in something other than when I was out

something other than when I was out

something other than when I was out there but there’s a problem with wild

there but there’s a problem with wild

there but there’s a problem with wild horses and the men there told me that he

horses and the men there told me that he

horses and the men there told me that he said at some point they had over 20,000

said at some point they had over 20,000

said at some point they had over 20,000 wild horses and what it ultimately was

wild horses and what it ultimately was

wild horses and what it ultimately was doing was devastating the land and he

doing was devastating the land and he

doing was devastating the land and he said any biologist anyone knows anything

said any biologist anyone knows anything

said any biologist anyone knows anything about the land and that would not be me

about the land and that would not be me

about the land and that would not be me he said but we look at this picture and

he said but we look at this picture and

he said but we look at this picture and know they had been completely devastated

know they had been completely devastated

know they had been completely devastated and he said for the tribe it’s very

and he said for the tribe it’s very

and he said for the tribe it’s very important he goes one this is their land

important he goes one this is their land

important he goes one this is their land use two this is place where they dig for

use two this is place where they dig for

use two this is place where they dig for medicine and roots and he said and and

medicine and roots and he said and and

medicine and roots and he said and and there’s way too many horses and he goes

there’s way too many horses and he goes

there’s way too many horses and he goes and also you don’t want to walk out and

and also you don’t want to walk out and

and also you don’t want to walk out and see a lot of starving horses running

see a lot of starving horses running

see a lot of starving horses running around he goes and that’s what’s

around he goes and that’s what’s

around he goes and that’s what’s happening and he said to me this is what

happening and he said to me this is what

happening and he said to me this is what happens when things are out of balance

happens when things are out of balance

happens when things are out of balance and he said so even something is

and he said so even something is

and he said so even something is powerful the horse that represents in my

powerful the horse that represents in my

powerful the horse that represents in my eyes on my journey something really good

eyes on my journey something really good

eyes on my journey something really good when things are out of balance it also

when things are out of balance it also

when things are out of balance it also causes problems I’m going to end here we

causes problems I’m going to end here we

causes problems I’m going to end here we have a special guest tonight

have a special guest tonight

have a special guest tonight Leo Teton but before I bring them up I

Leo Teton but before I bring them up I

Leo Teton but before I bring them up I have a very short video I want to show

have a very short video I want to show

have a very short video I want to show you of Leo just to be able to bring you

you of Leo just to be able to bring you

you of Leo just to be able to bring you to his home for a minute or so so you

to his home for a minute or so so you

to his home for a minute or so so you appear on a stage you get one Leo but at

appear on a stage you get one Leo but at

appear on a stage you get one Leo but at home you get to see someone very

home you get to see someone very

home you get to see someone very different when he works with horses

come on look you have a come on coming

come on look you have a come on coming keep coming there you go

Salil for those of us that don’t know

Salil for those of us that don’t know tell us where you’re from well first of

tell us where you’re from well first of

tell us where you’re from well first of all my my tribe is Shoshone and Bannock

all my my tribe is Shoshone and Bannock

all my my tribe is Shoshone and Bannock my mom is Shoshone my dad is Banach well

my mom is Shoshone my dad is Banach well

my mom is Shoshone my dad is Banach well one of the bigger tribes in Idaho and

one of the bigger tribes in Idaho and

one of the bigger tribes in Idaho and we’re all horse people they’re also

we’re all horse people they’re also

we’re all horse people they’re also their spiritual horses in there they’re

their spiritual horses in there they’re

their spiritual horses in there they’re kind to us and we’re kind to them

kind to us and we’re kind to them

kind to us and we’re kind to them they’re kind to us we thank the creator

they’re kind to us we thank the creator

they’re kind to us we thank the creator of all life to bringing them the

of all life to bringing them the

of all life to bringing them the four-legged brother he’s our brother to

four-legged brother he’s our brother to

four-legged brother he’s our brother to us so he can use him in a good way

us so he can use him in a good way

us so he can use him in a good way we talked to a horse you know they

we talked to a horse you know they

we talked to a horse you know they understand us they’re more smarter than

understand us they’re more smarter than

understand us they’re more smarter than this humans you know is it true as I’ve

this humans you know is it true as I’ve

this humans you know is it true as I’ve heard this a lot of times but were you

heard this a lot of times but were you

heard this a lot of times but were you really on a horse before you could walk

really on a horse before you could walk

really on a horse before you could walk would you say that’s pretty odd you know

would you say that’s pretty odd you know

would you say that’s pretty odd you know any people yeah cuz my dad had I’ve seen

any people yeah cuz my dad had I’ve seen

any people yeah cuz my dad had I’ve seen him put young kids on and just lead him

him put young kids on and just lead him

him put young kids on and just lead him around you know no not giving the rain

around you know no not giving the rain

around you know no not giving the rain but just lead him around even there’s

but just lead him around even there’s

but just lead him around even there’s cradle boards you know on the side my

cradle boards you know on the side my

cradle boards you know on the side my mom would ride and hang him on the side

mom would ride and hang him on the side

mom would ride and hang him on the side of the horse and lead him that way and

of the horse and lead him that way and

of the horse and lead him that way and there was just babies yeah and I still

there was just babies yeah and I still

there was just babies yeah and I still love them today and I can’t wait to get

love them today and I can’t wait to get

love them today and I can’t wait to get back home to write up your own that’s

back home to write up your own that’s

back home to write up your own that’s the first time in this city here I’m not

the first time in this city here I’m not

the first time in this city here I’m not a city dude talk to me about um working

a city dude talk to me about um working

a city dude talk to me about um working with horses just working cattle with

with horses just working cattle with

with horses just working cattle with horses the daily life you had growing up

horses the daily life you had growing up

horses the daily life you had growing up the economic way of life for your family

the economic way of life for your family

the economic way of life for your family what was that like what did that mean

what was that like what did that mean

what was that like what did that mean for you

for you

for you you know um when my dad was growing up

you know um when my dad was growing up

you know um when my dad was growing up he had a lot of horses he lived off the

he had a lot of horses he lived off the

he had a lot of horses he lived off the ranch lived off the land all of us guys

ranch lived off the land all of us guys

ranch lived off the land all of us guys did but dad was my mentor it’s a lot

did but dad was my mentor it’s a lot

did but dad was my mentor it’s a lot easier now than back in the day it was a

easier now than back in the day it was a

easier now than back in the day it was a lot rougher so the meaning of hard work

lot rougher so the meaning of hard work

lot rougher so the meaning of hard work my dad taught me you know riding horses

my dad taught me you know riding horses

my dad taught me you know riding horses you know it makes me feel good growing

you know it makes me feel good growing

you know it makes me feel good growing up that way when I was out with you um I

up that way when I was out with you um I

up that way when I was out with you um I got to go when they were rounding up

got to go when they were rounding up

got to go when they were rounding up some horses with him and his brothers

some horses with him and his brothers

some horses with him and his brothers and some other other family members and

and some other other family members and

and some other other family members and what I noticed pictures like this we’re

what I noticed pictures like this we’re

what I noticed pictures like this we’re out with horses all day and then

out with horses all day and then

out with horses all day and then everybody just sits around a fire and

everybody just sits around a fire and

everybody just sits around a fire and they start talking and people bring food

they start talking and people bring food

they start talking and people bring food and they start laughing and telling

and they start laughing and telling

and they start laughing and telling stories and that’s what I find really

stories and that’s what I find really

stories and that’s what I find really that’s the social aspect that surrounded

that’s the social aspect that surrounded

that’s the social aspect that surrounded this as well like this is the time when

this as well like this is the time when

this as well like this is the time when families got together and that’s what I

families got together and that’s what I

families got together and that’s what I saw with you tell me a little bit about

saw with you tell me a little bit about

saw with you tell me a little bit about that it takes a while for cows to get

that it takes a while for cows to get

that it takes a while for cows to get off the range we just got done bringing

off the range we just got done bringing

off the range we just got done bringing him about back off the range here and we

him about back off the range here and we

him about back off the range here and we had some coffee on that fire we drank it

had some coffee on that fire we drank it

had some coffee on that fire we drank it up and after that was a bunch of people

up and after that was a bunch of people

up and after that was a bunch of people were just all big family come to us

were just all big family come to us

were just all big family come to us laughing and joking and but that was all

laughing and joking and but that was all

laughing and joking and but that was all part of growing up you know getting

part of growing up you know getting

part of growing up you know getting together after the big shindig you know

together after the big shindig you know

together after the big shindig you know like this or a buffalo hunt or a deer

like this or a buffalo hunt or a deer

like this or a buffalo hunt or a deer hide tell me about the buffalo hunt what

hide tell me about the buffalo hunt what

hide tell me about the buffalo hunt what it means to you what do we shot this

it means to you what do we shot this

it means to you what do we shot this buffalo hare who had a little senator

buffalo hare who had a little senator

buffalo hare who had a little senator morning you know it’s always good to

morning you know it’s always good to

morning you know it’s always good to have a little blessing for the animal

have a little blessing for the animal

have a little blessing for the animal when you take his life that life is a

when you take his life that life is a

when you take his life that life is a life giving that Buffalo represents

life giving that Buffalo represents

life giving that Buffalo represents strength courage and longevity long life

strength courage and longevity long life

strength courage and longevity long life and we use all parts of his up his hide

and we use all parts of his up his hide

and we use all parts of his up his hide this call the bones we don’t read

this call the bones we don’t read

this call the bones we don’t read nothing behind we take everything and

nothing behind we take everything and

nothing behind we take everything and when we skinned him we give him that

when we skinned him we give him that

when we skinned him we give him that ceremony and his heart still warm when

ceremony and his heart still warm when

ceremony and his heart still warm when we got him out that’s when I gave you

we got him out that’s when I gave you

we got him out that’s when I gave you that the taste of the blood to his heart

that the taste of the blood to his heart

that the taste of the blood to his heart we got there and after the hunt they cut

we got there and after the hunt they cut

we got there and after the hunt they cut the heart out and we all drank the blood

the heart out and we all drank the blood

the heart out and we all drank the blood from the heart and now why did we do

from the heart and now why did we do

from the heart and now why did we do that well it’s a ceremonial ceremonial

that well it’s a ceremonial ceremonial

that well it’s a ceremonial ceremonial thing the buffalo represents strength

thing the buffalo represents strength

thing the buffalo represents strength and courage the long life and

and courage the long life and

and courage the long life and spirituality and by doing that you know

spirituality and by doing that you know

spirituality and by doing that you know you’re gonna live a long healthy life

you’re gonna live a long healthy life

you’re gonna live a long healthy life also you told me that the meat from this

also you told me that the meat from this

also you told me that the meat from this when you did this hunt this was going to

when you did this hunt this was going to

when you did this hunt this was going to elders in the tribe that meat we took

elders in the tribe that meat we took

elders in the tribe that meat we took there um cuz they can’t hunt no more we

there um cuz they can’t hunt no more we

there um cuz they can’t hunt no more we have provide for them we just take care

have provide for them we just take care

have provide for them we just take care of it because they took care of us we

of it because they took care of us we

of it because they took care of us we our turn to take care of the elders Leo

our turn to take care of the elders Leo

our turn to take care of the elders Leo does a lot of you know he represents his

does a lot of you know he represents his

does a lot of you know he represents his tribe in a lot of parades and you’re

tribe in a lot of parades and you’re

tribe in a lot of parades and you’re here you told me you’re wearing a war

here you told me you’re wearing a war

here you told me you’re wearing a war bonnet you have you said it’s called a

bonnet you have you said it’s called a

bonnet you have you said it’s called a lance correct that’s Atlanta some I’m

lance correct that’s Atlanta some I’m

lance correct that’s Atlanta some I’m holding yeah and you also have the war

holding yeah and you also have the war

holding yeah and you also have the war Bridal hair but tenant war bottle you

Bridal hair but tenant war bottle you

Bridal hair but tenant war bottle you gotta be pretty experienced writer too

gotta be pretty experienced writer too

gotta be pretty experienced writer too to have that it’s made out of rawhide

to have that it’s made out of rawhide

to have that it’s made out of rawhide it’s like a the

it’s like a the

it’s like a the back of the sinew of the Buffalo that’s

back of the sinew of the Buffalo that’s

back of the sinew of the Buffalo that’s what that is and how would you like to

what that is and how would you like to

what that is and how would you like to have a cold bridle in your mouth and you

have a cold bridle in your mouth and you

have a cold bridle in your mouth and you know and we had a run a full circle

know and we had a run a full circle

know and we had a run a full circle there’s a whole arena right here and we

there’s a whole arena right here and we

there’s a whole arena right here and we had a gold haul ass around that whole

had a gold haul ass around that whole

had a gold haul ass around that whole thing their whole butt and he wanted to

thing their whole butt and he wanted to

thing their whole butt and he wanted to go and I was holding back and at one

go and I was holding back and at one

go and I was holding back and at one time I broke it I broke that had to fix

time I broke it I broke that had to fix

time I broke it I broke that had to fix it real quick and go again you know so

it real quick and go again you know so

it real quick and go again you know so that war brought like I said you got to

that war brought like I said you got to

that war brought like I said you got to be a pretty tricky rider to experienced

be a pretty tricky rider to experienced

be a pretty tricky rider to experienced rider did to mess with one of those you

rider did to mess with one of those you

rider did to mess with one of those you know that’s back in the olden days clear

know that’s back in the olden days clear

know that’s back in the olden days clear back in 1800 that’s what they used when

back in 1800 that’s what they used when

back in 1800 that’s what they used when they went to war after stealing other

they went to war after stealing other

they went to war after stealing other tribes horses you know that’s what they

tribes horses you know that’s what they

tribes horses you know that’s what they did

did

did and that’s indeed raining yeah yeah when

and that’s indeed raining yeah yeah when

and that’s indeed raining yeah yeah when I saw Indian relay it’s just

I saw Indian relay it’s just

I saw Indian relay it’s just breathtaking and what I saw were people

breathtaking and what I saw were people

breathtaking and what I saw were people that were just extreme athletes and this

that were just extreme athletes and this

that were just extreme athletes and this picture for me sums up what I saw like

picture for me sums up what I saw like

picture for me sums up what I saw like they were flying with the horse and

they were flying with the horse and

they were flying with the horse and everything everyone had told me we want

everything everyone had told me we want

everything everyone had told me we want we when we work with horses we become

we when we work with horses we become

we when we work with horses we become one with horses while they showed me

one with horses while they showed me

one with horses while they showed me that obviously please tell me about

that obviously please tell me about

that obviously please tell me about Indian really tell me about your

Indian really tell me about your

Indian really tell me about your relationship in it and what it means to

relationship in it and what it means to

relationship in it and what it means to kind of pass this on to the youth

kind of pass this on to the youth

kind of pass this on to the youth okay the Indian relay started clear back

okay the Indian relay started clear back

okay the Indian relay started clear back in early 1900s and what you see here is

in early 1900s and what you see here is

in early 1900s and what you see here is at Fort Hall and the horses were coming

at Fort Hall and the horses were coming

at Fort Hall and the horses were coming out getting ready to run a race and

out getting ready to run a race and

out getting ready to run a race and there’s a three guys holding three

there’s a three guys holding three

there’s a three guys holding three horses when they come out you’ll see him

horses when they come out you’ll see him

horses when they come out you’ll see him pretty good busy huh

and that’s the start of the race right

and that’s the start of the race right here and they’ll go around and they’ll

here and they’ll go around and they’ll

here and they’ll go around and they’ll exchange again I’ve done this for a lot

exchange again I’ve done this for a lot

exchange again I’ve done this for a lot of years and I kind of retired from it

of years and I kind of retired from it

of years and I kind of retired from it and this is where they exchange horses

and this is where they exchange horses

and this is where they exchange horses right here right for the grandstand

man it connects exchange and I was

man it connects exchange and I was holding over here for one of my brothers

holding over here for one of my brothers

holding over here for one of my brothers I was a catcher and you gotta catch that

I was a catcher and you gotta catch that

I was a catcher and you gotta catch that horse so he could jump onto the next one

it’s pretty exciting here how fast are

it’s pretty exciting here how fast are some of these horses coming in the

some of these horses coming in the

some of these horses coming in the horses egg they come in pretty quick

horses egg they come in pretty quick

horses egg they come in pretty quick like 25 miles an hour and you got to

like 25 miles an hour and you got to

like 25 miles an hour and you got to jump off get on next one but what they

jump off get on next one but what they

jump off get on next one but what they pick up speed on your last stretch it’s

pick up speed on your last stretch it’s

pick up speed on your last stretch it’s like 35 miles an hour and this is the

like 35 miles an hour and this is the

like 35 miles an hour and this is the last round once they finish that last

last round once they finish that last

last round once they finish that last round they’re their winners so they’re

round they’re their winners so they’re

round they’re their winners so they’re finishing the track right here the

finishing the track right here the

finishing the track right here the finish line and it’s pretty well known

finish line and it’s pretty well known

finish line and it’s pretty well known sport now it goes all over the world

sport now it goes all over the world

sport now it goes all over the world they’re all over the place

tell me the history where did when

tell me the history where did when didn’t you really start I I’ve heard

didn’t you really start I I’ve heard

didn’t you really start I I’ve heard that it started in port Hall but yeah

that it started in port Hall but yeah

that it started in port Hall but yeah that’s sad that’s true you know it has

that’s sad that’s true you know it has

that’s sad that’s true you know it has it started right there in Fort Hall

it started right there in Fort Hall

it started right there in Fort Hall that’s where originated this Union

that’s where originated this Union

that’s where originated this Union relaying and it’s gonna worldwide it sir

relaying and it’s gonna worldwide it sir

relaying and it’s gonna worldwide it sir it went viral you know it’s all over the

it went viral you know it’s all over the

it went viral you know it’s all over the place now you see these and that’s me

place now you see these and that’s me

place now you see these and that’s me right there and now 50-plus over now

right there and now 50-plus over now

right there and now 50-plus over now I’m an old man tell me a little bit of

I’m an old man tell me a little bit of

I’m an old man tell me a little bit of the future what’s the future of horses

the future what’s the future of horses

the future what’s the future of horses what do you see with you and your family

what do you see with you and your family

what do you see with you and your family and your grandkids you know I think um

and your grandkids you know I think um

and your grandkids you know I think um right now um I got a lot of grandkids

right now um I got a lot of grandkids

right now um I got a lot of grandkids growing up and I’m just gonna help them

growing up and I’m just gonna help them

growing up and I’m just gonna help them the best to my knowledge to get them

the best to my knowledge to get them

the best to my knowledge to get them involved in and working with horses

involved in and working with horses

involved in and working with horses riding horses just by watching them

riding horses just by watching them

riding horses just by watching them taking them to the horse racing and

taking them to the horse racing and

taking them to the horse racing and maybe one day they’ll carry it on to

maybe one day they’ll carry it on to

maybe one day they’ll carry it on to their kids you know that’s what makes me

their kids you know that’s what makes me

their kids you know that’s what makes me feel good thank you guys for coming

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