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so we’ve heard a lot of amazing stories

so we’ve heard a lot of amazing stories and information tonight about the

and information tonight about the

and information tonight about the various ways that we can lose cultural

various ways that we can lose cultural

various ways that we can lose cultural heritage to looting but we haven’t

heritage to looting but we haven’t

heritage to looting but we haven’t really talked about losing cultural

really talked about losing cultural

really talked about losing cultural heritage to armed conflict and the kind

heritage to armed conflict and the kind

heritage to armed conflict and the kind of looting that basically just happens

of looting that basically just happens

of looting that basically just happens when you have an entire nation like Nazi

when you have an entire nation like Nazi

when you have an entire nation like Nazi Germany kind of devoted to looting on

Germany kind of devoted to looting on

Germany kind of devoted to looting on the most massive scale in history and

the most massive scale in history and

the most massive scale in history and there was a recent movie called the

there was a recent movie called the

there was a recent movie called the monuments men that kind of in a

monuments men that kind of in a

monuments men that kind of in a fictionalized way devoted itself to

fictionalized way devoted itself to

fictionalized way devoted itself to talking about the monuments men and

talking about the monuments men and

talking about the monuments men and these were really my heroes when I was

these were really my heroes when I was

these were really my heroes when I was in grad school studying art history and

in grad school studying art history and

in grad school studying art history and also serving as a young military officer

also serving as a young military officer

also serving as a young military officer and I thought wow that’s pretty cool

and I thought wow that’s pretty cool

and I thought wow that’s pretty cool I would love to save art as part of my

I would love to save art as part of my

I would love to save art as part of my military career there were fewer than

military career there were fewer than

military career there were fewer than 350 monuments men altogether most of

350 monuments men altogether most of

350 monuments men altogether most of them were in the US military

them were in the US military

them were in the US military a small handful of them were from the

a small handful of them were from the

a small handful of them were from the British military and then other Allied

British military and then other Allied

British military and then other Allied forces and and think of this in a

forces and and think of this in a

forces and and think of this in a conflict of over a billion people

conflict of over a billion people

conflict of over a billion people throughout World War two while we have

throughout World War two while we have

throughout World War two while we have this amazing story the monuments men not

this amazing story the monuments men not

this amazing story the monuments men not a lot of people remembered it and I

a lot of people remembered it and I

a lot of people remembered it and I think that the movie really brought to

think that the movie really brought to

think that the movie really brought to bear this awareness about cultural

bear this awareness about cultural

bear this awareness about cultural property during armed conflict and and

property during armed conflict and and

property during armed conflict and and the risk that it takes yes of course

the risk that it takes yes of course

the risk that it takes yes of course people are killed and people are

people are killed and people are

people are killed and people are displaced on a massive scale but what

displaced on a massive scale but what

displaced on a massive scale but what happens to their identity to their

happens to their identity to their

happens to their identity to their cultural heritage and how did the Nazi

cultural heritage and how did the Nazi

cultural heritage and how did the Nazi looting of millions of objects and and

looting of millions of objects and and

looting of millions of objects and and particularly from European museums and

particularly from European museums and

particularly from European museums and Jewish collections where people were

Jewish collections where people were

Jewish collections where people were targeted specifically because of their

targeted specifically because of their

targeted specifically because of their collections like the Rothschild family

collections like the Rothschild family

collections like the Rothschild family etc you know how how do you combat that

etc you know how how do you combat that

etc you know how how do you combat that and so we had this small group of people

and so we had this small group of people

and so we had this small group of people dedicated to this this is James rorimer

dedicated to this this is James rorimer

dedicated to this this is James rorimer who was a serving military and infantry

who was a serving military and infantry

who was a serving military and infantry officer and basically most of the

officer and basically most of the

officer and basically most of the monuments men were already actively

monuments men were already actively

monuments men were already actively serving in the military and the cultural

serving in the military and the cultural

serving in the military and the cultural heritage professional community the

heritage professional community the

heritage professional community the museums community essentially told the

museums community essentially told the

museums community essentially told the military where to find these folks

military where to find these folks

military where to find these folks within the ranks who had this kind of

within the ranks who had this kind of

within the ranks who had this kind of capability

capability

capability James rumor was a curator at the

James rumor was a curator at the

James rumor was a curator at the Metropolitan Museum of Art they brought

Metropolitan Museum of Art they brought

Metropolitan Museum of Art they brought him out of the infantry and over to the

him out of the infantry and over to the

him out of the infantry and over to the monuments men and they worked kind of

monuments men and they worked kind of

monuments men and they worked kind of all across Europe

all across Europe

all across Europe first of all preventing or trying to

first of all preventing or trying to

first of all preventing or trying to prevent through mapping by providing

prevent through mapping by providing

prevent through mapping by providing maps to the military to keep them from

maps to the military to keep them from

maps to the military to keep them from hitting sites with bombing but then

hitting sites with bombing but then

hitting sites with bombing but then later as they discovered the looted

later as they discovered the looted

later as they discovered the looted material that the Nazis were was we’re

material that the Nazis were was we’re

material that the Nazis were was we’re keeping around in Austria and Germany

keeping around in Austria and Germany

keeping around in Austria and Germany finding that material figuring out a way

finding that material figuring out a way

finding that material figuring out a way to repatriate it to its country of

to repatriate it to its country of

to repatriate it to its country of origin so it could be returned to its

origin so it could be returned to its

origin so it could be returned to its rightful owners so we learned a big

rightful owners so we learned a big

rightful owners so we learned a big lesson from that and the countries of

lesson from that and the countries of

lesson from that and the countries of the world got together and decided to

the world got together and decided to

the world got together and decided to create a new international treaty the

create a new international treaty the

create a new international treaty the 1954 Hague Convention – specifically to

1954 Hague Convention – specifically to

1954 Hague Convention – specifically to protect cultural heritage during armed

protect cultural heritage during armed

protect cultural heritage during armed conflict but that doesn’t mean that it

conflict but that doesn’t mean that it

conflict but that doesn’t mean that it necessarily worked you can make treaties

necessarily worked you can make treaties

necessarily worked you can make treaties but a lot of times the countries

but a lot of times the countries

but a lot of times the countries involved in conflicts don’t necessarily

involved in conflicts don’t necessarily

involved in conflicts don’t necessarily adhere to them so we had terrible

adhere to them so we had terrible

adhere to them so we had terrible situations like the intentional

situations like the intentional

situations like the intentional targeting of cultural heritage in the

targeting of cultural heritage in the

targeting of cultural heritage in the Bosnia conflict we had the deliberate

Bosnia conflict we had the deliberate

Bosnia conflict we had the deliberate destruction of the Bamiyan Buddhas by

destruction of the Bamiyan Buddhas by

destruction of the Bamiyan Buddhas by the Taliban and I think most of us

the Taliban and I think most of us

the Taliban and I think most of us remember the 2003 looting of the Iraq

remember the 2003 looting of the Iraq

remember the 2003 looting of the Iraq museum it was very much in the media

museum it was very much in the media

museum it was very much in the media that everything from the museum was

that everything from the museum was

that everything from the museum was completely gone that actually turned out

completely gone that actually turned out

completely gone that actually turned out not to be true

not to be true

not to be true the museum staff hid many of those

the museum staff hid many of those

the museum staff hid many of those collections or most of the collections

collections or most of the collections

collections or most of the collections in a secret storage location the real

in a secret storage location the real

in a secret storage location the real saviors of cultural heritage in these

saviors of cultural heritage in these

saviors of cultural heritage in these terrible situations of disaster and

terrible situations of disaster and

terrible situations of disaster and armed conflict and looting are the

armed conflict and looting are the

armed conflict and looting are the people who take care of it every day

people who take care of it every day

people who take care of it every day those curators those museum directors

those curators those museum directors

those curators those museum directors who often risk their lives to do this

who often risk their lives to do this

who often risk their lives to do this and this was the same case in the Iraq

and this was the same case in the Iraq

and this was the same case in the Iraq museum but they did indeed lose more

museum but they did indeed lose more

museum but they did indeed lose more than 15,000 objects for the collection

than 15,000 objects for the collection

than 15,000 objects for the collection that’s an estimate

that’s an estimate

that’s an estimate commentation very important you don’t

commentation very important you don’t

commentation very important you don’t know what’s been looted from your museum

know what’s been looted from your museum

know what’s been looted from your museum if it hasn’t properly been catalogued

if it hasn’t properly been catalogued

if it hasn’t properly been catalogued and photographed to begin with

and photographed to begin with

and photographed to begin with unfortunately that was the case with the

unfortunately that was the case with the

unfortunately that was the case with the Iraq museum under the ten years of

Iraq museum under the ten years of

Iraq museum under the ten years of sanctions they had it really been able

sanctions they had it really been able

sanctions they had it really been able to take the time to document excavation

to take the time to document excavation

to take the time to document excavation material that was coming into the museum

material that was coming into the museum

material that was coming into the museum it kind of got boxed and put in storage

it kind of got boxed and put in storage

it kind of got boxed and put in storage and that was the first place the looters

and that was the first place the looters

and that was the first place the looters went was to the storage areas they

went was to the storage areas they

went was to the storage areas they couldn’t hide everything

couldn’t hide everything

couldn’t hide everything many many storage magazines over a

many many storage magazines over a

many many storage magazines over a million objects were in this museum when

million objects were in this museum when

million objects were in this museum when it was looted and unfortunately many of

it was looted and unfortunately many of

it was looted and unfortunately many of the regional museums had stored their

the regional museums had stored their

the regional museums had stored their collections in Baghdad for safekeeping

collections in Baghdad for safekeeping

collections in Baghdad for safekeeping which turned out to be not so safe you’d

which turned out to be not so safe you’d

which turned out to be not so safe you’d think that there’s an international

think that there’s an international

think that there’s an international group sort of a cultural heritage rescue

group sort of a cultural heritage rescue

group sort of a cultural heritage rescue squad that parachutes in after an

squad that parachutes in after an

squad that parachutes in after an incident like this and that’s what I

incident like this and that’s what I

incident like this and that’s what I thought I was a very naive major who was

thought I was a very naive major who was

thought I was a very naive major who was assigned to go to Baghdad to help with

assigned to go to Baghdad to help with

assigned to go to Baghdad to help with the museum and to help advise the

the museum and to help advise the

the museum and to help advise the Ministry of Culture as an art historian

Ministry of Culture as an art historian

Ministry of Culture as an art historian and museum curator myself and suddenly

and museum curator myself and suddenly

and museum curator myself and suddenly realized that we had a much larger scale

realized that we had a much larger scale

realized that we had a much larger scale problem than just the museum looting we

problem than just the museum looting we

problem than just the museum looting we had looting of archaeological sites

had looting of archaeological sites

had looting of archaeological sites throughout the country you know under

throughout the country you know under

throughout the country you know under the Saddam Hussein death was the penalty

the Saddam Hussein death was the penalty

the Saddam Hussein death was the penalty for looting if he got caught but you

for looting if he got caught but you

for looting if he got caught but you know suddenly here was a really unstable

know suddenly here was a really unstable

know suddenly here was a really unstable situation with looting happening in the

situation with looting happening in the

situation with looting happening in the city of Baghdad so it wasn’t very easy

city of Baghdad so it wasn’t very easy

city of Baghdad so it wasn’t very easy to go out to the countryside and protect

to go out to the countryside and protect

to go out to the countryside and protect archaeological sites and so here’s the

archaeological sites and so here’s the

archaeological sites and so here’s the extent of the monuments men for Baghdad

extent of the monuments men for Baghdad

extent of the monuments men for Baghdad in 2003 and one of them was a woman

in 2003 and one of them was a woman

in 2003 and one of them was a woman there were monuments women in World War

there were monuments women in World War

there were monuments women in World War two as well but so my colleague was

two as well but so my colleague was

two as well but so my colleague was Sumner their captain was Sumner at the

Sumner their captain was Sumner at the

Sumner their captain was Sumner at the time was landscape archaeologist and so

time was landscape archaeologist and so

time was landscape archaeologist and so he he preceded me in Baghdad and you

he he preceded me in Baghdad and you

he he preceded me in Baghdad and you know when I arrived after the looting I

know when I arrived after the looting I

know when I arrived after the looting I I was called up as an individual went

I was called up as an individual went

I was called up as an individual went straight to Baghdad and he said Wow okay

straight to Baghdad and he said Wow okay

straight to Baghdad and he said Wow okay good luck with this because I’m gonna go

good luck with this because I’m gonna go

good luck with this because I’m gonna go save the National Zoo now and that’s

save the National Zoo now and that’s

save the National Zoo now and that’s exactly what he proceeded to do and he

exactly what he proceeded to do and he

exactly what he proceeded to do and he wrote a wonderful book

wrote a wonderful book

wrote a wonderful book about it so but I just want to point out

about it so but I just want to point out

about it so but I just want to point out that we’re at the central bank of Iraq

that we’re at the central bank of Iraq

that we’re at the central bank of Iraq in this photo in Baghdad and we’re here

in this photo in Baghdad and we’re here

in this photo in Baghdad and we’re here because a wonderful collection of

because a wonderful collection of

because a wonderful collection of archaeological artifacts from the site

archaeological artifacts from the site

archaeological artifacts from the site at NIMH Rude often referred to as the

at NIMH Rude often referred to as the

at NIMH Rude often referred to as the treasure of NIMH rood which is a very

treasure of NIMH rood which is a very

treasure of NIMH rood which is a very important probably next to King Tut’s

important probably next to King Tut’s

important probably next to King Tut’s treasure and the bactrian hoard probably

treasure and the bactrian hoard probably

treasure and the bactrian hoard probably the third most important treasure of the

the third most important treasure of the

the third most important treasure of the like and National Geographic was very

like and National Geographic was very

like and National Geographic was very very worried about the status of this

very worried about the status of this

very worried about the status of this collection and had representatives there

collection and had representatives there

collection and had representatives there on the ground they had a project where

on the ground they had a project where

on the ground they had a project where they actually paid to pump water out of

they actually paid to pump water out of

they actually paid to pump water out of the basement of the Arak National Museum

the basement of the Arak National Museum

the basement of the Arak National Museum and why the military hadn’t figured out

and why the military hadn’t figured out

and why the military hadn’t figured out how to do this yet I still don’t have a

how to do this yet I still don’t have a

how to do this yet I still don’t have a clue but and it had to be done more than

clue but and it had to be done more than

clue but and it had to be done more than once because they were having a hard

once because they were having a hard

once because they were having a hard time finding out where the water was

time finding out where the water was

time finding out where the water was coming in but finally they were able to

coming in but finally they were able to

coming in but finally they were able to do so and I you know got 10 years later

do so and I you know got 10 years later

do so and I you know got 10 years later just want to thank my colleagues at

just want to thank my colleagues at

just want to thank my colleagues at National Geographic for contributing to

National Geographic for contributing to

National Geographic for contributing to that and allowing us to safeguard this

that and allowing us to safeguard this

that and allowing us to safeguard this really important cultural resource so

really important cultural resource so

really important cultural resource so coming back and realizing that there

coming back and realizing that there

coming back and realizing that there really isn’t an organization who does

really isn’t an organization who does

really isn’t an organization who does this kind of cultural heritage rescue

this kind of cultural heritage rescue

this kind of cultural heritage rescue like on the ground

like on the ground

like on the ground immediate response kind of like Doctors

immediate response kind of like Doctors

immediate response kind of like Doctors Without Borders does for people I really

Without Borders does for people I really

Without Borders does for people I really realized that there is not that kind of

realized that there is not that kind of

realized that there is not that kind of Museum for culture we have UNESCO which

Museum for culture we have UNESCO which

Museum for culture we have UNESCO which is a really important organization that

is a really important organization that

is a really important organization that does major cultural heritage

does major cultural heritage

does major cultural heritage preservation projects but I’m talking

preservation projects but I’m talking

preservation projects but I’m talking about real have a bag packed by your

about real have a bag packed by your

about real have a bag packed by your door and have all your shots and go and

door and have all your shots and go and

door and have all your shots and go and help your colleagues in a disaster

help your colleagues in a disaster

help your colleagues in a disaster situation like this so we created the

situation like this so we created the

situation like this so we created the u.s. committee of the Blue Shield it’s a

u.s. committee of the Blue Shield it’s a

u.s. committee of the Blue Shield it’s a nonprofit organization that’s part of an

nonprofit organization that’s part of an

nonprofit organization that’s part of an international network to do this kind of

international network to do this kind of

international network to do this kind of or to support this kind of work but it’s

or to support this kind of work but it’s

or to support this kind of work but it’s still very difficult and I’ll talk about

still very difficult and I’ll talk about

still very difficult and I’ll talk about you know some of the ongoing challenges

you know some of the ongoing challenges

you know some of the ongoing challenges of trying to do this kind of work

of trying to do this kind of work

of trying to do this kind of work internationally I don’t think I have to

internationally I don’t think I have to

internationally I don’t think I have to go too far into the problems with

go too far into the problems with

go too far into the problems with Egyptian sites but I have to say

Egyptian sites but I have to say

Egyptian sites but I have to say it felt a little bit DejaVu seeing

it felt a little bit DejaVu seeing

it felt a little bit DejaVu seeing images of anna major archaeological

images of anna major archaeological

images of anna major archaeological museum in a country where there was

museum in a country where there was

museum in a country where there was horrible instability and seeing images

horrible instability and seeing images

horrible instability and seeing images of soldiers inside the National Museum

of soldiers inside the National Museum

of soldiers inside the National Museum in Egypt a place that I’d only gotten an

in Egypt a place that I’d only gotten an

in Egypt a place that I’d only gotten an opportunity to visit once and you know

opportunity to visit once and you know

opportunity to visit once and you know worried very much about what was going

worried very much about what was going

worried very much about what was going to happen with the sights another major

to happen with the sights another major

to happen with the sights another major area where we’ve seen intentional

area where we’ve seen intentional

area where we’ve seen intentional destruction of cultural heritage

destruction of cultural heritage

destruction of cultural heritage recently you heard about the jihadist

recently you heard about the jihadist

recently you heard about the jihadist groups who occupied northern Mali and

groups who occupied northern Mali and

groups who occupied northern Mali and finally in January of 2012 they were

finally in January of 2012 they were

finally in January of 2012 they were driven out by French forces but not

driven out by French forces but not

driven out by French forces but not before they did a tremendous amount of

before they did a tremendous amount of

before they did a tremendous amount of damage to the cultural heritage of the

damage to the cultural heritage of the

damage to the cultural heritage of the region and particularly the historic

region and particularly the historic

region and particularly the historic city of Timbuktu where they damaged they

city of Timbuktu where they damaged they

city of Timbuktu where they damaged they burned many of the manuscript

burned many of the manuscript

burned many of the manuscript collections of the Achmed Baba library

collections of the Achmed Baba library

collections of the Achmed Baba library they looted museums as you can see there

they looted museums as you can see there

they looted museums as you can see there they destroyed the Sufi Saints

they destroyed the Sufi Saints

they destroyed the Sufi Saints mausoleums around the city of Timbuktu

mausoleums around the city of Timbuktu

mausoleums around the city of Timbuktu and they also in a really insidious way

and they also in a really insidious way

and they also in a really insidious way prevented Malians from practicing their

prevented Malians from practicing their

prevented Malians from practicing their very important intangible heritage no

very important intangible heritage no

very important intangible heritage no singing no traditional dress women were

singing no traditional dress women were

singing no traditional dress women were not allowed to wear their hair the way

not allowed to wear their hair the way

not allowed to wear their hair the way they wanted to men were required to

they wanted to men were required to

they wanted to men were required to dress in a certain way and they weren’t

dress in a certain way and they weren’t

dress in a certain way and they weren’t allowed to have dance poetry or theatre

allowed to have dance poetry or theatre

allowed to have dance poetry or theatre so these things for millions you know

so these things for millions you know

so these things for millions you know we’re almost as damaged damaging to

we’re almost as damaged damaging to

we’re almost as damaged damaging to their culture as seeing the objects to

their culture as seeing the objects to

their culture as seeing the objects to start and then finally the really

start and then finally the really

start and then finally the really terrible scenario that we’re

terrible scenario that we’re

terrible scenario that we’re experiencing now with the Syrian civil

experiencing now with the Syrian civil

experiencing now with the Syrian civil war this is the ancient souk in Aleppo

war this is the ancient souk in Aleppo

war this is the ancient souk in Aleppo this is just one example of the many

this is just one example of the many

this is just one example of the many many tragic cases the city of Aleppo is

many tragic cases the city of Aleppo is

many tragic cases the city of Aleppo is a world heritage site and it has been

a world heritage site and it has been

a world heritage site and it has been pretty much devastated during the

pretty much devastated during the

pretty much devastated during the conflict the Grand Mosque has been

conflict the Grand Mosque has been

conflict the Grand Mosque has been grievously damaged that whole central

grievously damaged that whole central

grievously damaged that whole central ancient part of the city damaged crac de

ancient part of the city damaged crac de

ancient part of the city damaged crac de chevaliers the crusader fortress another

chevaliers the crusader fortress another

chevaliers the crusader fortress another world hair

world hair

world hair site very much devastated from being

site very much devastated from being

site very much devastated from being used as a military base of operations

used as a military base of operations

used as a military base of operations and the fighting going on between the

and the fighting going on between the

and the fighting going on between the two sides those are just a few examples

two sides those are just a few examples

two sides those are just a few examples so what can we do about it resources

so what can we do about it resources

so what can we do about it resources well where I work the Smithsonian a few

well where I work the Smithsonian a few

well where I work the Smithsonian a few years ago recognized that there is a

years ago recognized that there is a

years ago recognized that there is a need for this type of response and with

need for this type of response and with

need for this type of response and with our resources that we have 19 museums 9

our resources that we have 19 museums 9

our resources that we have 19 museums 9 research centers a zoo and more than

research centers a zoo and more than

research centers a zoo and more than 6,000 colleagues that I can call upon

6,000 colleagues that I can call upon

6,000 colleagues that I can call upon for their time and their expertise it’s

for their time and their expertise it’s

for their time and their expertise it’s it’s become really clear that through

it’s become really clear that through

it’s become really clear that through partnerships a sort of

partnerships a sort of

partnerships a sort of whole-of-government approach talking

whole-of-government approach talking

whole-of-government approach talking with organizations within government

with organizations within government

with organizations within government like the Department of State USAID the

like the Department of State USAID the

like the Department of State USAID the Department of Defense that we can have a

Department of Defense that we can have a

Department of Defense that we can have a lot of effect and then partnering with

lot of effect and then partnering with

lot of effect and then partnering with nongovernmental organizations and

nongovernmental organizations and

nongovernmental organizations and nonprofits like National Geographic like

nonprofits like National Geographic like

nonprofits like National Geographic like the Blue Shield like the International

the Blue Shield like the International

the Blue Shield like the International Council of museums etc that we can have

Council of museums etc that we can have

Council of museums etc that we can have an effect so in order to help with this

an effect so in order to help with this

an effect so in order to help with this Darth of modern-day monuments men as we

Darth of modern-day monuments men as we

Darth of modern-day monuments men as we like to say the Blue Shield and

like to say the Blue Shield and

like to say the Blue Shield and instituted a program of training u.s.

instituted a program of training u.s.

instituted a program of training u.s. military forces about cultural property

military forces about cultural property

military forces about cultural property protection specifically Civil Affairs

protection specifically Civil Affairs

protection specifically Civil Affairs units the world war two monuments men

units the world war two monuments men

units the world war two monuments men were Civil Affairs and they still are

were Civil Affairs and they still are

were Civil Affairs and they still are today this is a very recent one just a

today this is a very recent one just a

today this is a very recent one just a couple of weeks ago we had Marines from

couple of weeks ago we had Marines from

couple of weeks ago we had Marines from the civil military operation school at

the civil military operation school at

the civil military operation school at Quantico at the National Portrait

Quantico at the National Portrait

Quantico at the National Portrait Gallery and American Art Museum training

Gallery and American Art Museum training

Gallery and American Art Museum training on packing and crating in emergency

on packing and crating in emergency

on packing and crating in emergency situations the Haiti project was a big

situations the Haiti project was a big

situations the Haiti project was a big area where Smithsonian really recognized

area where Smithsonian really recognized

area where Smithsonian really recognized the need to jump in and help with

the need to jump in and help with

the need to jump in and help with cultural recovery during that we

cultural recovery during that we

cultural recovery during that we partnered with a number of organizations

partnered with a number of organizations

partnered with a number of organizations including the American Institute for

including the American Institute for

including the American Institute for conservation which is based here in DC

conservation which is based here in DC

conservation which is based here in DC the President’s Committee on the arts

the President’s Committee on the arts

the President’s Committee on the arts and humanities helped us get it kicked

and humanities helped us get it kicked

and humanities helped us get it kicked off with Michelle Obama’s involvement

off with Michelle Obama’s involvement

off with Michelle Obama’s involvement and we were able to help our Haitian

and we were able to help our Haitian

and we were able to help our Haitian colleagues save more than 30,000 objects

colleagues save more than 30,000 objects

colleagues save more than 30,000 objects of their heritage over an 18-month

of their heritage over an 18-month

of their heritage over an 18-month project near the Holy Trinity murals

project near the Holy Trinity murals

project near the Holy Trinity murals that were saved and these are being

that were saved and these are being

that were saved and these are being stored until they can build a new church

stored until they can build a new church

stored until they can build a new church we have a museum professional training

we have a museum professional training

we have a museum professional training program at the Smithsonian which works

program at the Smithsonian which works

program at the Smithsonian which works around the world but in particular

around the world but in particular

around the world but in particular recently we went to Mali to help train

recently we went to Mali to help train

recently we went to Mali to help train their museum professionals plus

their museum professionals plus

their museum professionals plus professionals from eight other West

professionals from eight other West

professionals from eight other West African countries on disaster risk

African countries on disaster risk

African countries on disaster risk management thinking about using museums

management thinking about using museums

management thinking about using museums for post-conflict reconciliation and

for post-conflict reconciliation and

for post-conflict reconciliation and other programs to really help museum

other programs to really help museum

other programs to really help museum professionals think about that what-if

professionals think about that what-if

professionals think about that what-if scenario what if this could happen in my

scenario what if this could happen in my

scenario what if this could happen in my museum or if it already has sharing

museum or if it already has sharing

museum or if it already has sharing information about how you were able to

information about how you were able to

information about how you were able to save your collections we hope to be able

save your collections we hope to be able

save your collections we hope to be able to serve as a point of coordination for

to serve as a point of coordination for

to serve as a point of coordination for multiple partnerships to help be that

multiple partnerships to help be that

multiple partnerships to help be that emergency responder for cultural

emergency responder for cultural

emergency responder for cultural heritage to help our colleagues who are

heritage to help our colleagues who are

heritage to help our colleagues who are under duress from natural disasters and

under duress from natural disasters and

under duress from natural disasters and armed conflicts to save their

armed conflicts to save their

armed conflicts to save their collections and to train about

collections and to train about

collections and to train about documentation and international legal

documentation and international legal

documentation and international legal instruments that can help worldwide and

instruments that can help worldwide and

instruments that can help worldwide and saving our cultural heritage thanks a

saving our cultural heritage thanks a

saving our cultural heritage thanks a lot

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