you have this animal that comes in and maybe changing people’s lives forever
maybe changing people’s lives forever
maybe changing people’s lives forever and not great information and so it’s
and not great information and so it’s
and not great information and so it’s kind of like throwing a match into that
kind of like throwing a match into that
kind of like throwing a match into that powder keg in the last decade we’ve had
powder keg in the last decade we’ve had
powder keg in the last decade we’ve had seals that have returned after thousands
seals that have returned after thousands
seals that have returned after thousands of years away to the main Hawaiian
of years away to the main Hawaiian
of years away to the main Hawaiian Islands and so 20 years ago there was
Islands and so 20 years ago there was
Islands and so 20 years ago there was maybe 15 animals 20 animals and now
maybe 15 animals 20 animals and now
maybe 15 animals 20 animals and now there’s 200 and still growing the
there’s 200 and still growing the
there’s 200 and still growing the complication with that is that they’re
complication with that is that they’re
complication with that is that they’re now you know flipper to foot with all
now you know flipper to foot with all
now you know flipper to foot with all the humans that are done it we’ve had a
the humans that are done it we’ve had a
the humans that are done it we’ve had a pregnant adult female that was shot
pregnant adult female that was shot
pregnant adult female that was shot we’ve had seals killed with you know
we’ve had seals killed with you know
we’ve had seals killed with you know rocks to the head and clubbing ‘s and
rocks to the head and clubbing ‘s and
rocks to the head and clubbing ‘s and the like and there’s no doubt killings
the like and there’s no doubt killings
the like and there’s no doubt killings that are happening that we’re not aware
that are happening that we’re not aware
that are happening that we’re not aware though started happening relatively
though started happening relatively
though started happening relatively recently while these tensions were
recently while these tensions were
recently while these tensions were really starting to escalate you know
really starting to escalate you know
really starting to escalate you know there are people that are trying to make
there are people that are trying to make
there are people that are trying to make a living people are trying to bring food
a living people are trying to bring food
a living people are trying to bring food home to their families and and so there
home to their families and and so there
home to their families and and so there are some understandable concerns about
are some understandable concerns about
are some understandable concerns about what impacts monk seals might have on
what impacts monk seals might have on
what impacts monk seals might have on that people worried about being able to
that people worried about being able to
that people worried about being able to develop industry because now their seals
develop industry because now their seals
develop industry because now their seals around and so all commercial tourism and
around and so all commercial tourism and
around and so all commercial tourism and businesses are going to be shut down is
businesses are going to be shut down is
businesses are going to be shut down is this making thou the fishing man’s mad
this making thou the fishing man’s mad
this making thou the fishing man’s mad they gonna kill all our fish in his area
they gonna kill all our fish in his area
they gonna kill all our fish in his area I guess if they take the fish model or
I guess if they take the fish model or
I guess if they take the fish model or kill them and eat on me I mean they’re
kill them and eat on me I mean they’re
kill them and eat on me I mean they’re gonna be there every time they’re gonna
gonna be there every time they’re gonna
gonna be there every time they’re gonna be taking your fish all the time you
be taking your fish all the time you
be taking your fish all the time you said on that and if you said the net and
said on that and if you said the net and
said on that and if you said the net and you catch one out in you you get in
you catch one out in you you get in
you catch one out in you you get in trouble instead of saying otters a monk
trouble instead of saying otters a monk
trouble instead of saying otters a monk seal let’s go I’m gonna get the monk
seal let’s go I’m gonna get the monk
seal let’s go I’m gonna get the monk seal you know the story now is I don’t
seal you know the story now is I don’t
seal you know the story now is I don’t know a monk seal he came and he took the
know a monk seal he came and he took the
know a monk seal he came and he took the fish from my neck and he’s chasing away
fish from my neck and he’s chasing away
fish from my neck and he’s chasing away all of fish you know what’s going on
all of fish you know what’s going on
all of fish you know what’s going on with this monk seal so it’s it’s more of
with this monk seal so it’s it’s more of
with this monk seal so it’s it’s more of a slightly negative relationship most of
a slightly negative relationship most of
a slightly negative relationship most of those people are just grabbing on to any
those people are just grabbing on to any
those people are just grabbing on to any source of information and that’s the
source of information and that’s the
source of information and that’s the best that they have right now we’ve
best that they have right now we’ve
best that they have right now we’ve heard on the more extreme and monk seals
heard on the more extreme and monk seals
heard on the more extreme and monk seals are eating 600 pounds of fish a day
are eating 600 pounds of fish a day
are eating 600 pounds of fish a day so the largest monks who you’re ever
so the largest monks who you’re ever
so the largest monks who you’re ever going to see is 600 pounds so there’s
going to see is 600 pounds so there’s
going to see is 600 pounds so there’s very few animals that eat there their
very few animals that eat there their
very few animals that eat there their weight and fish in a day so it’s a
weight and fish in a day so it’s a
weight and fish in a day so it’s a physical impossibility but sitting
physical impossibility but sitting
physical impossibility but sitting across a table and telling someone that
across a table and telling someone that
across a table and telling someone that why should they believe me I’m on the
why should they believe me I’m on the
why should they believe me I’m on the government we knew if we could show the
government we knew if we could show the
government we knew if we could show the truth through the seals perspective
truth through the seals perspective
truth through the seals perspective using National Geographic critter cams
using National Geographic critter cams
using National Geographic critter cams that we could change people’s minds the
that we could change people’s minds the
that we could change people’s minds the critter cam is a tiny waterproof
critter cam is a tiny waterproof
critter cam is a tiny waterproof instrument that you put on the back of
instrument that you put on the back of
instrument that you put on the back of the seal or other animal that you’re
the seal or other animal that you’re
the seal or other animal that you’re interested in that allows you to capture
interested in that allows you to capture
interested in that allows you to capture the hidden behaviors of the animal even
the hidden behaviors of the animal even
the hidden behaviors of the animal even though we only have collected 50 hours
though we only have collected 50 hours
though we only have collected 50 hours or so footage it’s blowing a lot of
or so footage it’s blowing a lot of
or so footage it’s blowing a lot of these misconceptions that exist out of
these misconceptions that exist out of
these misconceptions that exist out of the water we’re seeing lots of fish
the water we’re seeing lots of fish
the water we’re seeing lots of fish being passed up I mean thousands of fish
being passed up I mean thousands of fish
being passed up I mean thousands of fish being passed up the estimate of amongst
being passed up the estimate of amongst
being passed up the estimate of amongst the elite 600 pounds of fish in a day
the elite 600 pounds of fish in a day
the elite 600 pounds of fish in a day based on what we know about monk seals
based on what we know about monk seals
based on what we know about monk seals that would require them to eat one one
that would require them to eat one one
that would require them to eat one one pound fish every 45 seconds and you will
pound fish every 45 seconds and you will
pound fish every 45 seconds and you will see 15 2014 it’s go by before a monk
see 15 2014 it’s go by before a monk
see 15 2014 it’s go by before a monk seal eats anything it’s going to be very
seal eats anything it’s going to be very
seal eats anything it’s going to be very easy for the naysayer to stand up and
easy for the naysayer to stand up and
easy for the naysayer to stand up and say you’re lying you’re only showing us
say you’re lying you’re only showing us
say you’re lying you’re only showing us the stuff that’s favorable for seals so
the stuff that’s favorable for seals so
the stuff that’s favorable for seals so this guy said you want to be transparent
this guy said you want to be transparent
this guy said you want to be transparent give the data to our students give the
give the data to our students give the
give the data to our students give the data to our children and let them see it
data to our children and let them see it
data to our children and let them see it and let them study it and then that way
and let them study it and then that way
and let them study it and then that way when you’re at a public meeting and
when you’re at a public meeting and
when you’re at a public meeting and someone stands up and says you’re lying
someone stands up and says you’re lying
someone stands up and says you’re lying to us these kids their own community can
to us these kids their own community can
to us these kids their own community can send them and say no we watch this all
send them and say no we watch this all
send them and say no we watch this all and what they’re showing you is really
and what they’re showing you is really
and what they’re showing you is really the most informative or the best stuff
the most informative or the best stuff
the most informative or the best stuff that there’s out there some of them have
that there’s out there some of them have
that there’s out there some of them have become so fiercely passionate about this
become so fiercely passionate about this
become so fiercely passionate about this topic some of them are almost livid with
topic some of them are almost livid with
topic some of them are almost livid with the fact that there is this these
the fact that there is this these
the fact that there is this these misunderstandings out there and they’ve
misunderstandings out there and they’ve
misunderstandings out there and they’ve gone out there and they’ve tried to get
gone out there and they’ve tried to get
gone out there and they’ve tried to get people to understand and they’ve talked
people to understand and they’ve talked
people to understand and they’ve talked to their family they’ve gone out and
to their family they’ve gone out and
to their family they’ve gone out and interviewed the public to find out what
interviewed the public to find out what
interviewed the public to find out what misconceptions are out there
misconceptions are out there
misconceptions are out there and it’s really galvanizing at least in
and it’s really galvanizing at least in
and it’s really galvanizing at least in the groups that we’ve worked with this
the groups that we’ve worked with this
the groups that we’ve worked with this desire to protect and to share this
desire to protect and to share this
desire to protect and to share this information already with these
information already with these
information already with these discoveries it’s raining everybody in
discoveries it’s raining everybody in
discoveries it’s raining everybody in toward the center a little bit you know
toward the center a little bit you know
toward the center a little bit you know and it’s hopefully going to shift some
and it’s hopefully going to shift some
and it’s hopefully going to shift some of the more extreme perspectives I’m
of the more extreme perspectives I’m
of the more extreme perspectives I’m thinking this thing is going to work you
thinking this thing is going to work you
thinking this thing is going to work you know we’ve got some good scientists
know we’ve got some good scientists
know we’ve got some good scientists working on this thing and they’re you
working on this thing and they’re you
working on this thing and they’re you know they’re determined to try and
know they’re determined to try and
know they’re determined to try and figure out how to work with their
figure out how to work with their
figure out how to work with their communities it’s a good thing and it’s
communities it’s a good thing and it’s
communities it’s a good thing and it’s the right thing okay I’m Travis by the
the right thing okay I’m Travis by the
the right thing okay I’m Travis by the way yeah why don’t like to meet you our
way yeah why don’t like to meet you our
way yeah why don’t like to meet you our intent is not to make people love seals
intent is not to make people love seals
intent is not to make people love seals what we’re trying to do is get the truth
what we’re trying to do is get the truth
what we’re trying to do is get the truth out there we are the people that are now
out there we are the people that are now
out there we are the people that are now here to try to go out and inspire people
here to try to go out and inspire people
here to try to go out and inspire people to try to change people’s minds to have
to try to change people’s minds to have
to try to change people’s minds to have access to phenomenal technologies to
access to phenomenal technologies to
access to phenomenal technologies to solve mysteries that ultimately can mean
solve mysteries that ultimately can mean
solve mysteries that ultimately can mean life or death for a species it’s nice to
life or death for a species it’s nice to
life or death for a species it’s nice to wake up in the morning and feel that
wake up in the morning and feel that
wake up in the morning and feel that what you’re doing is going to be
what you’re doing is going to be
what you’re doing is going to be meaningful
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