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hi I’m Barton Seaver chef and National

hi I’m Barton Seaver chef and National Geographic fellow and this is cook wise

you

you we’re here in the heart of Maryland’s

we’re here in the heart of Maryland’s

we’re here in the heart of Maryland’s Eastern Shore with one of my personal

Eastern Shore with one of my personal

Eastern Shore with one of my personal heroes dr. carl safina of the blue ocean

heroes dr. carl safina of the blue ocean

heroes dr. carl safina of the blue ocean institute he’s going to tell us about a

institute he’s going to tell us about a

institute he’s going to tell us about a little fish that plays a big role what

little fish that plays a big role what

little fish that plays a big role what do you got here so this is a bowl of

do you got here so this is a bowl of

do you got here so this is a bowl of fish called menhaden and these fish are

fish called menhaden and these fish are

fish called menhaden and these fish are really important food for a lot of other

really important food for a lot of other

really important food for a lot of other fish pretty much any other fish that

fish pretty much any other fish that

fish pretty much any other fish that eats fish on this coast eats menhaden

eats fish on this coast eats menhaden

eats fish on this coast eats menhaden they’re like the peanut butter and jelly

they’re like the peanut butter and jelly

they’re like the peanut butter and jelly of the sea so this little fish does need

of the sea so this little fish does need

of the sea so this little fish does need our protection we need to keep these

our protection we need to keep these

our protection we need to keep these guys around yeah I think everything

guys around yeah I think everything

guys around yeah I think everything needs our protection and we do have to

needs our protection and we do have to

needs our protection and we do have to keep these guys around because if you

keep these guys around because if you

keep these guys around because if you pull these out a lot of other things

pull these out a lot of other things

pull these out a lot of other things would collapse let’s go see some of

would collapse let’s go see some of

would collapse let’s go see some of these fish in action

by number a lot of efficient than that

by number a lot of efficient than that are men hating which have a lot of

are men hating which have a lot of

are men hating which have a lot of different names other parts of the coast

different names other parts of the coast

different names other parts of the coast some places they’re called porgies some

some places they’re called porgies some

some places they’re called porgies some places they’re called pogies or bunkers

places they’re called pogies or bunkers

places they’re called pogies or bunkers so this seems a very artisanal way to

so this seems a very artisanal way to

so this seems a very artisanal way to fish what about the industrial methods

fish what about the industrial methods

fish what about the industrial methods the commercial methods that target men

the commercial methods that target men

the commercial methods that target men haters are much much larger scale they

haters are much much larger scale they

haters are much much larger scale they use they use airplanes to spot the

use they use airplanes to spot the

use they use airplanes to spot the schools which frequently travel near the

schools which frequently travel near the

schools which frequently travel near the surface often in very big schools and

surface often in very big schools and

surface often in very big schools and then they circle them with a big net

then they circle them with a big net

then they circle them with a big net called a person and they can catch

called a person and they can catch

called a person and they can catch entire schools I mean they catch many

entire schools I mean they catch many

entire schools I mean they catch many many tons and then to get them out of

many tons and then to get them out of

many tons and then to get them out of the net they have these gigantic suction

the net they have these gigantic suction

the net they have these gigantic suction hoses that actually suck them right onto

hoses that actually suck them right onto

hoses that actually suck them right onto the boat so the whole the whole scale is

the boat so the whole the whole scale is

the boat so the whole the whole scale is very very different I mean if this is

very very different I mean if this is

very very different I mean if this is like working in a shop that’s like

like working in a shop that’s like

like working in a shop that’s like working in a factory

so how can we keep the menhaden

so how can we keep the menhaden protective how can we keep this whole

protective how can we keep this whole

protective how can we keep this whole ecosystem working what’s a matter of

ecosystem working what’s a matter of

ecosystem working what’s a matter of limits and you know you don’t take them

limits and you know you don’t take them

limits and you know you don’t take them out faster than they can reproduce and

out faster than they can reproduce and

out faster than they can reproduce and try to find out how many the bay could

try to find out how many the bay could

try to find out how many the bay could hold ideally you’d want to keep the

hold ideally you’d want to keep the

hold ideally you’d want to keep the populations just about at their capacity

populations just about at their capacity

populations just about at their capacity and then take what you can as the the

and then take what you can as the the

and then take what you can as the the surplus off the top of the wolf the

surplus off the top of the wolf the

surplus off the top of the wolf the interest and a lot of fisheries are

interest and a lot of fisheries are

interest and a lot of fisheries are depleted because people just continue to

depleted because people just continue to

depleted because people just continue to catch them even as they were declining

catch them even as they were declining

catch them even as they were declining until there are very few left so when we

until there are very few left so when we

until there are very few left so when we decide how many fish to take from the

decide how many fish to take from the

decide how many fish to take from the oceans we also need to decide not only

oceans we also need to decide not only

oceans we also need to decide not only just what humans need but really what

just what humans need but really what

just what humans need but really what the ecosystem needs as well well fishery

the ecosystem needs as well well fishery

the ecosystem needs as well well fishery management has always been an exercise

management has always been an exercise

management has always been an exercise of figuring out how many you can take

of figuring out how many you can take

of figuring out how many you can take out and really what you need to figure

out and really what you need to figure

out and really what you need to figure out is how many you have to leave in

out is how many you have to leave in

out is how many you have to leave in that’s the next generation Wow

now menhaden are a fish that you can

now menhaden are a fish that you can find in nearly every aisle of the

find in nearly every aisle of the

find in nearly every aisle of the grocery store these small oily silver

grocery store these small oily silver

grocery store these small oily silver fish are taken in mass from the

fish are taken in mass from the

fish are taken in mass from the Chesapeake Bay and turned into products

Chesapeake Bay and turned into products

Chesapeake Bay and turned into products that we use every day and for a number

that we use every day and for a number

that we use every day and for a number of industrial uses including animal feed

of industrial uses including animal feed

of industrial uses including animal feed which goes to feed pigs thus the pork

which goes to feed pigs thus the pork

which goes to feed pigs thus the pork chops but this is pork as nature

chops but this is pork as nature

chops but this is pork as nature intended and you can buy vegetarian fed

intended and you can buy vegetarian fed

intended and you can buy vegetarian fed pork and poultry at most grocery stores

pork and poultry at most grocery stores

pork and poultry at most grocery stores making small changes in our buying

making small changes in our buying

making small changes in our buying habits can have a huge impact in the

habits can have a huge impact in the

habits can have a huge impact in the health of our oceans and in this case

health of our oceans and in this case

health of our oceans and in this case you can actually help save one of the

you can actually help save one of the

you can actually help save one of the most important fish in the sea so here

most important fish in the sea so here

most important fish in the sea so here we’re cooking a dish where land meets

we’re cooking a dish where land meets

we’re cooking a dish where land meets the sea grilled pork chops smothered in

the sea grilled pork chops smothered in

the sea grilled pork chops smothered in Old Bay seasoning with lots of grilled

Old Bay seasoning with lots of grilled

Old Bay seasoning with lots of grilled vegetables and one of my favorite

vegetables and one of my favorite

vegetables and one of my favorite pairings with pork grilled peaches now

pairings with pork grilled peaches now

pairings with pork grilled peaches now with these vegetables super easy I’ve

with these vegetables super easy I’ve

with these vegetables super easy I’ve just taken a little bit of oil and salt

just taken a little bit of oil and salt

just taken a little bit of oil and salt brushed them and then thrown them right

brushed them and then thrown them right

brushed them and then thrown them right on the grill alongside the pork chops

on the grill alongside the pork chops

on the grill alongside the pork chops broccoli one of my favorite things on

broccoli one of my favorite things on

broccoli one of my favorite things on the grill you got to boil that and a

the grill you got to boil that and a

the grill you got to boil that and a little bit of salted water ahead of time

little bit of salted water ahead of time

little bit of salted water ahead of time and then just throw it right alongside

and then just throw it right alongside

and then just throw it right alongside everything’s done just about the same

everything’s done just about the same

everything’s done just about the same time so we’re gonna play it it up family

time so we’re gonna play it it up family

time so we’re gonna play it it up family style and go serve my hungry buddy Carl

looks great I’m ready to eat now that

looks great I’m ready to eat now that looks terrific but it does not look like

looks terrific but it does not look like

looks terrific but it does not look like menhaden yeah well I cooked you

menhaden yeah well I cooked you

menhaden yeah well I cooked you something you might actually want to eat

something you might actually want to eat

something you might actually want to eat some vegetarian fed pork fantastic yeah

some vegetarian fed pork fantastic yeah

some vegetarian fed pork fantastic yeah well thank you that’s pleasure to have

well thank you that’s pleasure to have

well thank you that’s pleasure to have you here and thanks for everything

you here and thanks for everything

you here and thanks for everything you’ve done for me always well thank you

you’ve done for me always well thank you

you’ve done for me always well thank you very much it’s been a great day great

very much it’s been a great day great

very much it’s been a great day great happy to be here dig in all right for

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