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my years in Yosemite were the best years

my years in Yosemite were the best years of my life that was where I was training

of my life that was where I was training

of my life that was where I was training and I was learning the skills of big

and I was learning the skills of big

and I was learning the skills of big wall climbing and I wanted to find walls

wall climbing and I wanted to find walls

wall climbing and I wanted to find walls and that people hadn’t done before and I

and that people hadn’t done before and I

and that people hadn’t done before and I wanted to pioneer my own rounds but you

wanted to pioneer my own rounds but you

wanted to pioneer my own rounds but you know a conclusion that I did come to

know a conclusion that I did come to

know a conclusion that I did come to from going on all these expeditions

from going on all these expeditions

from going on all these expeditions climbing is kind of a selfish pursuit so

climbing is kind of a selfish pursuit so

climbing is kind of a selfish pursuit so I start thinking what can I do with this

I start thinking what can I do with this

I start thinking what can I do with this with these skills that I’ve built up as

with these skills that I’ve built up as

with these skills that I’ve built up as a climber and I come across this issue

a climber and I come across this issue

a climber and I come across this issue of National Geographic tapu EES

of National Geographic tapu EES

of National Geographic tapu EES Venezuela x’ islands in time may 1989 I

Venezuela x’ islands in time may 1989 I

Venezuela x’ islands in time may 1989 I don’t know how I found it I opened it up

don’t know how I found it I opened it up

don’t know how I found it I opened it up guess what there’s giant rock towers in

guess what there’s giant rock towers in

guess what there’s giant rock towers in the Amazon jungle

the Amazon jungle

the Amazon jungle they’re called taboos I thought wow how

they’re called taboos I thought wow how

they’re called taboos I thought wow how do you get up one of those cliffs that

do you get up one of those cliffs that

do you get up one of those cliffs that looks awesome

looks awesome

looks awesome the article of course is not about that

the article of course is not about that

the article of course is not about that it’s about science it’s about the

it’s about science it’s about the

it’s about science it’s about the summit’s of these mountains being the

summit’s of these mountains being the

summit’s of these mountains being the poem of like all these endemic species

poem of like all these endemic species

poem of like all these endemic species and they’ve evolved separately we’re

and they’ve evolved separately we’re

and they’ve evolved separately we’re talking plants and animals from their

talking plants and animals from their

talking plants and animals from their cousins that live down in the jungle

cousins that live down in the jungle

cousins that live down in the jungle blow everything up there is unique one

blow everything up there is unique one

blow everything up there is unique one of these unique creatures is called

of these unique creatures is called

of these unique creatures is called pebble toad there’s a couple things

pebble toad there’s a couple things

pebble toad there’s a couple things about them that are really unique if you

about them that are really unique if you

about them that are really unique if you look at the behind feet they are adapted

look at the behind feet they are adapted

look at the behind feet they are adapted for climbing in a way that’s totally

for climbing in a way that’s totally

for climbing in a way that’s totally unique

unique

unique I think there’s eight species of pebble

I think there’s eight species of pebble

I think there’s eight species of pebble toads five of them have been found on

toads five of them have been found on

toads five of them have been found on the top of Tipu YZ and I’m thinking whoo

the top of Tipu YZ and I’m thinking whoo

the top of Tipu YZ and I’m thinking whoo okay I’m starting to get the beginning

okay I’m starting to get the beginning

okay I’m starting to get the beginning of an idea here the guy who’s trying to

of an idea here the guy who’s trying to

of an idea here the guy who’s trying to figure this all out why do these

figure this all out why do these

figure this all out why do these creatures happen to exist on the

creatures happen to exist on the

creatures happen to exist on the summit’s of these tepui dr. Bruce means

summit’s of these tepui dr. Bruce means

summit’s of these tepui dr. Bruce means this guy has been on 32 expeditions to

this guy has been on 32 expeditions to

this guy has been on 32 expeditions to the taboos

the taboos

the taboos he’s a biologist he’s found tons of new

he’s a biologist he’s found tons of new

he’s a biologist he’s found tons of new species so Bruce and I come up with this

species so Bruce and I come up with this

species so Bruce and I come up with this plan and this plan is custom-made for

plan and this plan is custom-made for

plan and this plan is custom-made for National Geographic we say so have your

National Geographic we say so have your

National Geographic we say so have your people been up on the summit of this

people been up on the summit of this

people been up on the summit of this mountain and they’re looking at it and

mountain and they’re looking at it and

mountain and they’re looking at it and they’re like oh yeah our guys have been

they’re like oh yeah our guys have been

they’re like oh yeah our guys have been up there they

up there they

up there they go up a helicopter they found a lot of

go up a helicopter they found a lot of

go up a helicopter they found a lot of cool stuff like okay that’s cool have

cool stuff like okay that’s cool have

cool stuff like okay that’s cool have you guys been down in the bottom in the

you guys been down in the bottom in the

you guys been down in the bottom in the jungle they’re like oh yeah totally her

jungle they’re like oh yeah totally her

jungle they’re like oh yeah totally her guys have been all over the jungle they

guys have been all over the jungle they

guys have been all over the jungle they found a lot of stuff down there they’re

found a lot of stuff down there they’re

found a lot of stuff down there they’re like oh that’s cool

like oh that’s cool

like oh that’s cool have your guys been here in the middle

have your guys been here in the middle

have your guys been here in the middle on the veg patch on the actual wall and

on the veg patch on the actual wall and

on the veg patch on the actual wall and they’re all like mmm you’re like

they’re all like mmm you’re like

they’re all like mmm you’re like actually no I don’t think our guys have

actually no I don’t think our guys have

actually no I don’t think our guys have been on the wall and that’s when Bruce

been on the wall and that’s when Bruce

been on the wall and that’s when Bruce like slams his fist down on the table

like slams his fist down on the table

like slams his fist down on the table and says I guarantee that I will find

and says I guarantee that I will find

and says I guarantee that I will find new species on the tepui walls the only

new species on the tepui walls the only

new species on the tepui walls the only problem is now we’ve told them that

problem is now we’ve told them that

problem is now we’ve told them that we’re going to go up where the veg is on

we’re going to go up where the veg is on

we’re going to go up where the veg is on the wall and as a climber that’s really

the wall and as a climber that’s really

the wall and as a climber that’s really not the way you want to go you want to

not the way you want to go you want to

not the way you want to go you want to avoid the veg so we’ve got ourselves a

avoid the veg so we’ve got ourselves a

avoid the veg so we’ve got ourselves a little bit of a problem like most of

little bit of a problem like most of

little bit of a problem like most of these adventures the best part of it is

these adventures the best part of it is

these adventures the best part of it is connecting with local people so here and

connecting with local people so here and

connecting with local people so here and the in the Amazon it’s amerindians and

the in the Amazon it’s amerindians and

the in the Amazon it’s amerindians and we needed these guys to help us to get

we needed these guys to help us to get

we needed these guys to help us to get into the base of the tower there’s no

into the base of the tower there’s no

into the base of the tower there’s no possible way that we we could have found

possible way that we we could have found

possible way that we we could have found it we did not anticipate that the

it we did not anticipate that the

it we did not anticipate that the hardest part of this trip was going to

hardest part of this trip was going to

hardest part of this trip was going to be just getting to the base of the tower

be just getting to the base of the tower

be just getting to the base of the tower you can see this ridge right here

you can see this ridge right here

you can see this ridge right here this doesn’t look that bad this looks

this doesn’t look that bad this looks

this doesn’t look that bad this looks like a ridge like in the Shenandoah’s

like a ridge like in the Shenandoah’s

like a ridge like in the Shenandoah’s right you hike up this thing that little

right you hike up this thing that little

right you hike up this thing that little section there which is half a mile took

section there which is half a mile took

section there which is half a mile took us five days and what you can’t see is

us five days and what you can’t see is

us five days and what you can’t see is that it’s actually really steep under

that it’s actually really steep under

that it’s actually really steep under there and it’s jungle mountaineering and

there and it’s jungle mountaineering and

there and it’s jungle mountaineering and we would scrape our way up these little

we would scrape our way up these little

we would scrape our way up these little walls and then we’d build these little

walls and then we’d build these little

walls and then we’d build these little ladders we’d put ropes down and we put

ladders we’d put ropes down and we put

ladders we’d put ropes down and we put these rungs on so that we could all move

these rungs on so that we could all move

these rungs on so that we could all move up with our gear but eventually we came

up with our gear but eventually we came

up with our gear but eventually we came to this spot that we called the slime

to this spot that we called the slime

to this spot that we called the slime wall bonafide slime so like at this

wall bonafide slime so like at this

wall bonafide slime so like at this point we’ve climbed all kinds of

point we’ve climbed all kinds of

point we’ve climbed all kinds of different stuff like all different kinds

different stuff like all different kinds

different stuff like all different kinds of rock I even climbed grass in Poland

of rock I even climbed grass in Poland

of rock I even climbed grass in Poland in the Tatras which is another great

in the Tatras which is another great

in the Tatras which is another great story but I’d never climb slime the

story but I’d never climb slime the

story but I’d never climb slime the closest that I came was trying to climb

closest that I came was trying to climb

closest that I came was trying to climb the greased pole at the Fryeburg Fair in

the greased pole at the Fryeburg Fair in

the greased pole at the Fryeburg Fair in Maine but slime is really really really

Maine but slime is really really really

Maine but slime is really really really hard to climb

hard to climb

hard to climb we were relying on going up these vines

we were relying on going up these vines

we were relying on going up these vines we think the highest we got up the wall

we think the highest we got up the wall

we think the highest we got up the wall was like 10 feet and then the vines

was like 10 feet and then the vines

was like 10 feet and then the vines would break off we’d slide down the wall

would break off we’d slide down the wall

would break off we’d slide down the wall and then hit this little ledge and you

and then hit this little ledge and you

and then hit this little ledge and you had to hit the ledge because there was a

had to hit the ledge because there was a

had to hit the ledge because there was a huge drop-off right to the side the

huge drop-off right to the side the

huge drop-off right to the side the hammer Indian guys thought that this was

hammer Indian guys thought that this was

hammer Indian guys thought that this was probably the greatest show that they had

probably the greatest show that they had

probably the greatest show that they had ever seen in their life and eventually

ever seen in their life and eventually

ever seen in their life and eventually we’re like hey you know what guess what

we’re like hey you know what guess what

we’re like hey you know what guess what dude you’re given this pitch ago Edward

dude you’re given this pitch ago Edward

dude you’re given this pitch ago Edward Edward was like he didn’t speak English

Edward was like he didn’t speak English

Edward was like he didn’t speak English but he kind of got the message he was

but he kind of got the message he was

but he kind of got the message he was all like what I’m leading it and we’re

all like what I’m leading it and we’re

all like what I’m leading it and we’re like you added here’s the harness and we

like you added here’s the harness and we

like you added here’s the harness and we suited him up well guess what the

suited him up well guess what the

suited him up well guess what the Amerindians like these guys must have

Amerindians like these guys must have

Amerindians like these guys must have gecko blood or something because this

gecko blood or something because this

gecko blood or something because this guy got on the slime wall and he just

guy got on the slime wall and he just

guy got on the slime wall and he just went right up it

went right up it

went right up it the problem was that we hadn’t really

the problem was that we hadn’t really

the problem was that we hadn’t really looked that carefully at like the upper

looked that carefully at like the upper

looked that carefully at like the upper section and we just thought get past the

section and we just thought get past the

section and we just thought get past the slime part it’ll get easier

slime part it’ll get easier

slime part it’ll get easier well it didn’t get easier it went from

well it didn’t get easier it went from

well it didn’t get easier it went from slime to dirt which was good but it went

slime to dirt which was good but it went

slime to dirt which was good but it went from 80 degrees to like 90 so he went

from 80 degrees to like 90 so he went

from 80 degrees to like 90 so he went for like another 20 feet up the dirt by

for like another 20 feet up the dirt by

for like another 20 feet up the dirt by putting his hands in all the way up to

putting his hands in all the way up to

putting his hands in all the way up to his shoulders and he told it was like

his shoulders and he told it was like

his shoulders and he told it was like grabbing onto roots and kicking his feet

grabbing onto roots and kicking his feet

grabbing onto roots and kicking his feet in like he was like ice climbing this

in like he was like ice climbing this

in like he was like ice climbing this eventually brought him to a roof of

eventually brought him to a roof of

eventually brought him to a roof of vegetation and we looked up and we saw

vegetation and we looked up and we saw

vegetation and we looked up and we saw him up there and were like oh man this

him up there and were like oh man this

him up there and were like oh man this is bad you know

is bad you know

is bad you know and we’re like he’ll figure it out he

and we’re like he’ll figure it out he

and we’re like he’ll figure it out he has to because he can’t down climate so

has to because he can’t down climate so

has to because he can’t down climate so he’s got his arms in all the way like

he’s got his arms in all the way like

he’s got his arms in all the way like this and he starts going like this and

this and he starts going like this and

this and he starts going like this and he starts head-butting the wall and

he starts head-butting the wall and

he starts head-butting the wall and we’re all looking at each other like

we’re all looking at each other like

we’re all looking at each other like this is bad you’re like he’s

this is bad you’re like he’s

this is bad you’re like he’s head-butting the wall and then I wanted

head-butting the wall and then I wanted

head-butting the wall and then I wanted the head but he bit on and he went and

the head but he bit on and he went and

the head but he bit on and he went and he tore off a little patch of moss we

he tore off a little patch of moss we

he tore off a little patch of moss we were like wow now he’s biting the cliff

were like wow now he’s biting the cliff

were like wow now he’s biting the cliff I’ve never seen that never seen anyone

I’ve never seen that never seen anyone

I’ve never seen that never seen anyone do that well he starts biting off chunks

do that well he starts biting off chunks

do that well he starts biting off chunks and we quickly realized like he’s

and we quickly realized like he’s

and we quickly realized like he’s chewing a hole through the wall and he

chewing a hole through the wall and he

chewing a hole through the wall and he chewed the hole big enough to like get

chewed the hole big enough to like get

chewed the hole big enough to like get his head started and then he started

his head started and then he started

his head started and then he started burrowing into it and he he turned into

burrowing into it and he he turned into

burrowing into it and he he turned into Mole Man

Mole Man

Mole Man and took a long time over the course of

and took a long time over the course of

and took a long time over the course of like about an hour and a half he

like about an hour and a half he

like about an hour and a half he borrowed his way all the way into the

borrowed his way all the way into the

borrowed his way all the way into the dirt the last thing I saw was his leg

dirt the last thing I saw was his leg

dirt the last thing I saw was his leg sticking out in the back and he was like

sticking out in the back and he was like

sticking out in the back and he was like this and he was shaken to try to get

this and he was shaken to try to get

this and he was shaken to try to get himself deeper in I remember one of his

himself deeper in I remember one of his

himself deeper in I remember one of his shoes fly off and spin through the mist

shoes fly off and spin through the mist

shoes fly off and spin through the mist and disappear off the ledge and for the

and disappear off the ledge and for the

and disappear off the ledge and for the rest of the trip he had one shoe but he

rest of the trip he had one shoe but he

rest of the trip he had one shoe but he did it and he borrowed all the way

did it and he borrowed all the way

did it and he borrowed all the way through and he got out onto the ledge we

through and he got out onto the ledge we

through and he got out onto the ledge we couldn’t see him at this point but he

couldn’t see him at this point but he

couldn’t see him at this point but he let loose with this blood-curdling

let loose with this blood-curdling

let loose with this blood-curdling scream that I think was like half

scream that I think was like half

scream that I think was like half triumph and half like terror and the

triumph and half like terror and the

triumph and half like terror and the story was is they heard it in the

story was is they heard it in the

story was is they heard it in the village 40 miles away but he was

village 40 miles away but he was

village 40 miles away but he was definitely stoked and he allowed the

definitely stoked and he allowed the

definitely stoked and he allowed the expedition to proceed we made a little

expedition to proceed we made a little

expedition to proceed we made a little camp up here on this Ridge and we have

camp up here on this Ridge and we have

camp up here on this Ridge and we have this one last little little hill to get

this one last little little hill to get

this one last little little hill to get to the base so I got up early in the

to the base so I got up early in the

to the base so I got up early in the morning before everybody else and

morning before everybody else and

morning before everybody else and honestly I was feeling bad I’m like I’m

honestly I was feeling bad I’m like I’m

honestly I was feeling bad I’m like I’m making the Amerindian guys do the

making the Amerindian guys do the

making the Amerindian guys do the hardest stuff like I got to redeem

hardest stuff like I got to redeem

hardest stuff like I got to redeem myself

myself

myself now it’s matted dead wood laying over

now it’s matted dead wood laying over

now it’s matted dead wood laying over the cliff

the cliff

the cliff it’s really steep but instead of being

it’s really steep but instead of being

it’s really steep but instead of being slime it’s rotten wood and I’m trying to

slime it’s rotten wood and I’m trying to

slime it’s rotten wood and I’m trying to climb it it’s all just breaking off and

climb it it’s all just breaking off and

climb it it’s all just breaking off and but there’s it’s like this layer and a

but there’s it’s like this layer and a

but there’s it’s like this layer and a couple of times the whole thing

couple of times the whole thing

couple of times the whole thing collapses and I fall through and to the

collapses and I fall through and to the

collapses and I fall through and to the inside and I look up and I can see that

inside and I look up and I can see that

inside and I look up and I can see that there’s like a space on the on the

there’s like a space on the on the

there’s like a space on the on the inside it’s almost like kind of like a

inside it’s almost like kind of like a

inside it’s almost like kind of like a chimney that you could slither up and I

chimney that you could slither up and I

chimney that you could slither up and I looked up in there and I thought what

looked up in there and I thought what

looked up in there and I thought what would Edward do I’m like I’m like he

would Edward do I’m like I’m like he

would Edward do I’m like I’m like he would go in for sure I’m like that’s

would go in for sure I’m like that’s

would go in for sure I’m like that’s what I’m doing I’m going Mole Man so I

what I’m doing I’m going Mole Man so I

what I’m doing I’m going Mole Man so I put my hood up I cinched everything up

put my hood up I cinched everything up

put my hood up I cinched everything up and I started squirming my way up

and I started squirming my way up

and I started squirming my way up through here and I was in there for

through here and I was in there for

through here and I was in there for hours and straight up there were

hours and straight up there were

hours and straight up there were tarantulas in there

tarantulas in there

tarantulas in there scorpions it was wicked hot it was

scorpions it was wicked hot it was

scorpions it was wicked hot it was probably the nastiest thing I’ve ever

probably the nastiest thing I’ve ever

probably the nastiest thing I’ve ever done in my life finally I hit a wall at

done in my life finally I hit a wall at

done in my life finally I hit a wall at the end I broke all the wood and veg out

the end I broke all the wood and veg out

the end I broke all the wood and veg out above me and I popped out and the

above me and I popped out and the

above me and I popped out and the Amerindian guys really sitting there

there they’re looking at me and they’re

there they’re looking at me and they’re like Marco where the hell have you been

like Marco where the hell have you been

like Marco where the hell have you been I was like I was like down under the veg

I was like I was like down under the veg

I was like I was like down under the veg I was doing like what you did yesterday

I was doing like what you did yesterday

I was doing like what you did yesterday they were like you idiot like we found

they were like you idiot like we found

they were like you idiot like we found this trail around the side like we’ve

this trail around the side like we’ve

this trail around the side like we’ve been here for hours waiting for you well

been here for hours waiting for you well

been here for hours waiting for you well don’t forget we’ve told National

don’t forget we’ve told National

don’t forget we’ve told National Geographic that we’re going to climb up

Geographic that we’re going to climb up

Geographic that we’re going to climb up on to the veg patch and we’re going to

on to the veg patch and we’re going to

on to the veg patch and we’re going to try to find some some new species but

try to find some some new species but

try to find some some new species but the veg isn’t really where you want to

the veg isn’t really where you want to

the veg isn’t really where you want to be home these cliffs the badges is a

be home these cliffs the badges is a

be home these cliffs the badges is a nightmare actually we kind of found this

nightmare actually we kind of found this

nightmare actually we kind of found this route where we hit a little veg patch

route where we hit a little veg patch

route where we hit a little veg patch partway we dug in we we actually got

partway we dug in we we actually got

partway we dug in we we actually got some samples every time you would stick

some samples every time you would stick

some samples every time you would stick your hand into the wall and you would

your hand into the wall and you would

your hand into the wall and you would pull it out you would have either a

pull it out you would have either a

pull it out you would have either a tarantula or a scorpion in your hand

tarantula or a scorpion in your hand

tarantula or a scorpion in your hand we had slightly more scorpions so we

we had slightly more scorpions so we

we had slightly more scorpions so we ended up calling our climb the scorpion

ended up calling our climb the scorpion

ended up calling our climb the scorpion wall we had an awesome adventure up on

wall we had an awesome adventure up on

wall we had an awesome adventure up on this mountain we’re on the mountain in

this mountain we’re on the mountain in

this mountain we’re on the mountain in the background there and we’re flying

the background there and we’re flying

the background there and we’re flying away in a helicopter we fly over this

away in a helicopter we fly over this

away in a helicopter we fly over this other tepui

other tepui

other tepui Bruce doesn’t even know about it he’s

Bruce doesn’t even know about it he’s

Bruce doesn’t even know about it he’s been on 32 expeditions here and as we go

been on 32 expeditions here and as we go

been on 32 expeditions here and as we go over the top we see this giant sinkhole

over the top we see this giant sinkhole

over the top we see this giant sinkhole and there’s a forest down inside and so

and there’s a forest down inside and so

and there’s a forest down inside and so Bruce looks at that and he he thinks you

Bruce looks at that and he he thinks you

Bruce looks at that and he he thinks you know what that is exactly the kind of

know what that is exactly the kind of

know what that is exactly the kind of place where I need to go because it’s

place where I need to go because it’s

place where I need to go because it’s the environment that’s right in between

the environment that’s right in between

the environment that’s right in between the tepui summits and the jungle down

the tepui summits and the jungle down

the tepui summits and the jungle down below and I think like this missing link

below and I think like this missing link

below and I think like this missing link type of frog that I’m looking for is

type of frog that I’m looking for is

type of frog that I’m looking for is going to be down in that hole and my

going to be down in that hole and my

going to be down in that hole and my only job is to get Bruce down in the

only job is to get Bruce down in the

only job is to get Bruce down in the hole and then to get Bruce back out of

hole and then to get Bruce back out of

hole and then to get Bruce back out of the hole so we get Bruce down into the

the hole so we get Bruce down into the

the hole so we get Bruce down into the hole and we leave them down in there

hole and we leave them down in there

hole and we leave them down in there it’s it’s really kind of wet and nasty

it’s it’s really kind of wet and nasty

it’s it’s really kind of wet and nasty down in there so we have this nice dry

down in there so we have this nice dry

down in there so we have this nice dry camp up on the top so we go back up to

camp up on the top so we go back up to

camp up on the top so we go back up to our camp and we hang out and we drink

our camp and we hang out and we drink

our camp and we hang out and we drink scotch and we look down in and we see

scotch and we look down in and we see

scotch and we look down in and we see Bruce down in there like the frogs he’s

Bruce down in there like the frogs he’s

Bruce down in there like the frogs he’s basically nocturnal and we hear him

basically nocturnal and we hear him

basically nocturnal and we hear him rooting

rooting

rooting down and he’s got to find this thing but

down and he’s got to find this thing but

down and he’s got to find this thing but he’s having a hard time finding it and

he’s having a hard time finding it and

he’s having a hard time finding it and it’s like day after day and here’s a

it’s like day after day and here’s a

it’s like day after day and here’s a little video clip that that tells the

little video clip that that tells the

little video clip that that tells the story pretty good about what happened to

story pretty good about what happened to

story pretty good about what happened to Bruce down in the hole and they’re on a

Bruce down in the hole and they’re on a

Bruce down in the hole and they’re on a little leaf sad one of these priceless

little leaf sad one of these priceless

little leaf sad one of these priceless little babies and then I realized oh

little babies and then I realized oh

little babies and then I realized oh they do what the lower elevation

they do what the lower elevation

they do what the lower elevation one does this may sit on leads and I

one does this may sit on leads and I

one does this may sit on leads and I start looking within ten minutes I found

start looking within ten minutes I found

start looking within ten minutes I found another one and then by 9:30 I’d found

another one and then by 9:30 I’d found

another one and then by 9:30 I’d found four this is fabulous I I do want to

four this is fabulous I I do want to

four this is fabulous I I do want to stay another night I’d like to do some

stay another night I’d like to do some

stay another night I’d like to do some more work on their ecology I didn’t have

more work on their ecology I didn’t have

more work on their ecology I didn’t have my camera with me uh on and on and on

my camera with me uh on and on and on

my camera with me uh on and on and on the otter Yatta Yatta but we’re

the otter Yatta Yatta but we’re

the otter Yatta Yatta but we’re successful yeah

after he found the frog we had like a

after he found the frog we had like a little celebration down in the hall and

little celebration down in the hall and

little celebration down in the hall and Bruce fell over there was a tree right

Bruce fell over there was a tree right

Bruce fell over there was a tree right there and he actually broke the tree off

there and he actually broke the tree off

there and he actually broke the tree off it is like super lucky because he was

it is like super lucky because he was

it is like super lucky because he was going to hit the ground like sack of

going to hit the ground like sack of

going to hit the ground like sack of potatoes I’m thinking okay I got to get

potatoes I’m thinking okay I got to get

potatoes I’m thinking okay I got to get this guy out of the hole so here’s

this guy out of the hole so here’s

this guy out of the hole so here’s another little clip showing how I got

another little clip showing how I got

another little clip showing how I got him out I’m trying to set up basically

him out I’m trying to set up basically

him out I’m trying to set up basically the beefiest rig that I’ve ever setup in

the beefiest rig that I’ve ever setup in

the beefiest rig that I’ve ever setup in my life just to make sure that that we

my life just to make sure that that we

my life just to make sure that that we can get Bruce out of the hole I pretty

can get Bruce out of the hole I pretty

can get Bruce out of the hole I pretty much tied together this entire troll

much tied together this entire troll

much tied together this entire troll forest I think I have 10 trees

forest I think I have 10 trees

forest I think I have 10 trees interlinked this is one of the crazier

interlinked this is one of the crazier

interlinked this is one of the crazier things that I’ve ever setup I can

things that I’ve ever setup I can

things that I’ve ever setup I can confirm that he just moved up about six

confirm that he just moved up about six

confirm that he just moved up about six inches so he’s got 199 and a half feet

inches so he’s got 199 and a half feet

inches so he’s got 199 and a half feet to go well we did it then we got him out

to go well we did it then we got him out

to go well we did it then we got him out of the hole Bruce loves to show this

of the hole Bruce loves to show this

of the hole Bruce loves to show this picture and if he was here he would tell

picture and if he was here he would tell

picture and if he was here he would tell you that I tried to kill him but I did

you that I tried to kill him but I did

you that I tried to kill him but I did have a backup rope so I had two ropes

have a backup rope so I had two ropes

have a backup rope so I had two ropes but he likes to sort of pretend that

but he likes to sort of pretend that

but he likes to sort of pretend that that didn’t happen but it’s uh it’s one

that didn’t happen but it’s uh it’s one

that didn’t happen but it’s uh it’s one of his stories so Bruce has looked at

of his stories so Bruce has looked at

of his stories so Bruce has looked at the DNA of the pebble toads and guess

the DNA of the pebble toads and guess

the DNA of the pebble toads and guess what he found the separation is only

what he found the separation is only

what he found the separation is only like a few thousand years the tapu e’s

like a few thousand years the tapu e’s

like a few thousand years the tapu e’s have been isolated for more like

have been isolated for more like

have been isolated for more like millions so what does that mean

millions so what does that mean

millions so what does that mean it means that the frogs have been

it means that the frogs have been

it means that the frogs have been climbing up and down and there’s

climbing up and down and there’s

climbing up and down and there’s exchange going on between the frogs that

exchange going on between the frogs that

exchange going on between the frogs that live down in the jungle and the frogs

live down in the jungle and the frogs

live down in the jungle and the frogs that live up on the top with this one

that live up on the top with this one

that live up on the top with this one species there’s another species that

species there’s another species that

species there’s another species that he’s found that has been separated from

he’s found that has been separated from

he’s found that has been separated from its cousins by millions of years and so

its cousins by millions of years and so

its cousins by millions of years and so bruce says to me that makes perfect

bruce says to me that makes perfect

bruce says to me that makes perfect sense because those ones aren’t adapted

sense because those ones aren’t adapted

sense because those ones aren’t adapted for climbing so you have both things

for climbing so you have both things

for climbing so you have both things going on at the same time so you have

going on at the same time so you have

going on at the same time so you have the old paradigm and you have the new

the old paradigm and you have the new

the old paradigm and you have the new paradigm so the guy 71 his first rappel

paradigm so the guy 71 his first rappel

paradigm so the guy 71 his first rappel is a free hanging rappel

is a free hanging rappel

is a free hanging rappel into a sinkhole on a tepui kind of a

into a sinkhole on a tepui kind of a

into a sinkhole on a tepui kind of a tough place to learn how to do this

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