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Born in Brooklyn: Independent Whiskey and Gin | National Geographic


I grew up in Kentucky it was a dry

I grew up in Kentucky it was a dry County so I was interested in this

County so I was interested in this

County so I was interested in this cultural difference in curious enough

cultural difference in curious enough

cultural difference in curious enough that I bought a still off the internet

that I bought a still off the internet

that I bought a still off the internet and started making moonshine in my

and started making moonshine in my

and started making moonshine in my apartment which billy-goat though I was

apartment which billy-goat though I was

apartment which billy-goat though I was slightly worried about it and ultimately

slightly worried about it and ultimately

slightly worried about it and ultimately that worry led to starting a real

that worry led to starting a real

that worry led to starting a real legitimate business

New York City has a climate that’s very

New York City has a climate that’s very similar to Kentucky you get a lot of

similar to Kentucky you get a lot of

similar to Kentucky you get a lot of temperature fluctuation which is what

temperature fluctuation which is what

temperature fluctuation which is what contributes most to the aging and

contributes most to the aging and

contributes most to the aging and whiskey on hot days the whiskey will

whiskey on hot days the whiskey will

whiskey on hot days the whiskey will expand driving the spirit deep into the

expand driving the spirit deep into the

expand driving the spirit deep into the pores of the wood and then on colder

pores of the wood and then on colder

pores of the wood and then on colder days the spirit will shrink when that

days the spirit will shrink when that

days the spirit will shrink when that pulls the spirit back out of those pores

pulls the spirit back out of those pores

pulls the spirit back out of those pores that process of filtering infuses it

that process of filtering infuses it

that process of filtering infuses it with the caramelized SAP of the tree

with the caramelized SAP of the tree

with the caramelized SAP of the tree which is really where bourbon gets its

which is really where bourbon gets its

which is really where bourbon gets its flavor from whiskey’s been around for

flavor from whiskey’s been around for

flavor from whiskey’s been around for three hundred years and you can make a

three hundred years and you can make a

three hundred years and you can make a recipe from 1820 or 1720 so there’s this

recipe from 1820 or 1720 so there’s this

recipe from 1820 or 1720 so there’s this great connection to the past and also a

great connection to the past and also a

great connection to the past and also a connection to the future really up until

connection to the future really up until

connection to the future really up until prohibition there were thousands of

prohibition there were thousands of

prohibition there were thousands of whiskey distilleries over the history of

whiskey distilleries over the history of

whiskey distilleries over the history of New York City

New York City

New York City the first distillery in the country was

the first distillery in the country was

the first distillery in the country was here during the Civil War and a lot of

here during the Civil War and a lot of

here during the Civil War and a lot of Irish immigrants moved here with a

Irish immigrants moved here with a

Irish immigrants moved here with a specific intention of building

specific intention of building

specific intention of building distilleries it’s in a way part of what

distilleries it’s in a way part of what

distilleries it’s in a way part of what defines Brooklyn is people moving to

defines Brooklyn is people moving to

defines Brooklyn is people moving to Brooklyn to apply a trade and was

Brooklyn to apply a trade and was

Brooklyn to apply a trade and was certainly true in the 1860s is true in

certainly true in the 1860s is true in

certainly true in the 1860s is true in 2014 – I think other people have had the

2014 – I think other people have had the

2014 – I think other people have had the same lightbulb in their head that it

same lightbulb in their head that it

same lightbulb in their head that it makes sense in this city full of people

makes sense in this city full of people

makes sense in this city full of people who like to drink to give them a

who like to drink to give them a

who like to drink to give them a connection to what they’re making why am

connection to what they’re making why am

connection to what they’re making why am I making gin

I making gin

I making gin that was always a big gin drinker and it

that was always a big gin drinker and it

that was always a big gin drinker and it was something I was interested in I was

was something I was interested in I was

was something I was interested in I was working on Wall Street at that time it

working on Wall Street at that time it

working on Wall Street at that time it was one of those jobs when you wake up

was one of those jobs when you wake up

was one of those jobs when you wake up cringe about going to work on Monday

cringe about going to work on Monday

cringe about going to work on Monday morning so this is something that even

morning so this is something that even

morning so this is something that even though it’s very challenging it’s

though it’s very challenging it’s

though it’s very challenging it’s exciting you spend more time working you

exciting you spend more time working you

exciting you spend more time working you have expelling to family to friends or

have expelling to family to friends or

have expelling to family to friends or anything so you want to do something

anything so you want to do something

anything so you want to do something that that you that you enjoy doing most

that that you that you enjoy doing most

that that you that you enjoy doing most companies use corn because corn is the

companies use corn because corn is the

companies use corn because corn is the cheapest of the grains we use an organic

cheapest of the grains we use an organic

cheapest of the grains we use an organic New York steak or a wheat growing up

New York steak or a wheat growing up

New York steak or a wheat growing up around Syracuse it’s a really nice soft

around Syracuse it’s a really nice soft

around Syracuse it’s a really nice soft neutral base the blank canvas that

neutral base the blank canvas that

neutral base the blank canvas that you’re painting your picture on

you’re painting your picture on

you’re painting your picture on our Jean Zak installed the technique

our Jean Zak installed the technique

our Jean Zak installed the technique that was being used as early as the 19th

that was being used as early as the 19th

that was being used as early as the 19th century by French a few distillers

century by French a few distillers

century by French a few distillers because flowers are very susceptible to

because flowers are very susceptible to

because flowers are very susceptible to damages from heat

damages from heat

damages from heat vacuum distillation process removes air

vacuum distillation process removes air

vacuum distillation process removes air pressure from an enclosed environment

pressure from an enclosed environment

pressure from an enclosed environment and reduce that Mystere pressure you can

and reduce that Mystere pressure you can

and reduce that Mystere pressure you can lower the temperature you distill that

lower the temperature you distill that

lower the temperature you distill that prevents a lot of the delicate aromas

prevents a lot of the delicate aromas

prevents a lot of the delicate aromas from the botanicals from getting this

from the botanicals from getting this

from the botanicals from getting this dude

what’s great about the distillery is in

what’s great about the distillery is in New York City is that everybody’s kind

New York City is that everybody’s kind

New York City is that everybody’s kind of doing something different and that is

of doing something different and that is

of doing something different and that is contributing to a fairly diverse

contributing to a fairly diverse

contributing to a fairly diverse landscape of spirits corn whiskey by law

landscape of spirits corn whiskey by law

landscape of spirits corn whiskey by law it has to be 80% corn that’s just a

it has to be 80% corn that’s just a

it has to be 80% corn that’s just a federal rule so in a sense the recipe is

federal rule so in a sense the recipe is

federal rule so in a sense the recipe is kind of given by the federal government

kind of given by the federal government

kind of given by the federal government so when people say what’s your secret

so when people say what’s your secret

so when people say what’s your secret recipe is like it’s not a lot there’s a

recipe is like it’s not a lot there’s a

recipe is like it’s not a lot there’s a lot a lot of hide there I mean it’s it’s

lot a lot of hide there I mean it’s it’s

lot a lot of hide there I mean it’s it’s pretty much given about 75% of our

pretty much given about 75% of our

pretty much given about 75% of our ingredients come from in-state in an

ingredients come from in-state in an

ingredients come from in-state in an organic farm in the Finger Lakes and the

organic farm in the Finger Lakes and the

organic farm in the Finger Lakes and the other ingredient is malted barley which

other ingredient is malted barley which

other ingredient is malted barley which in our case comes from the UK so we get

in our case comes from the UK so we get

in our case comes from the UK so we get three tons of corn each month it just

three tons of corn each month it just

three tons of corn each month it just really takes a lot of grain to make

really takes a lot of grain to make

really takes a lot of grain to make whiskey last year we made about 3,000

whiskey last year we made about 3,000

whiskey last year we made about 3,000 gallons of whiskey but what we make

gallons of whiskey but what we make

gallons of whiskey but what we make relative vff with the Jim Beam and the

relative vff with the Jim Beam and the

relative vff with the Jim Beam and the volume of spirit that was coming out of

volume of spirit that was coming out of

volume of spirit that was coming out of there still it’s like you’ve go to a

there still it’s like you’ve go to a

there still it’s like you’ve go to a fire hydrant and and open it wide up and

fire hydrant and and open it wide up and

fire hydrant and and open it wide up and it’s just three-inch pipe that’s just

it’s just three-inch pipe that’s just

it’s just three-inch pipe that’s just pouring whiskey out of a column so I’m

pouring whiskey out of a column so I’m

pouring whiskey out of a column so I’m sure in a matter of 10 or 20 minutes

sure in a matter of 10 or 20 minutes

sure in a matter of 10 or 20 minutes they make about what we make into an

they make about what we make into an

they make about what we make into an entire year there’s twelve or sixteen

entire year there’s twelve or sixteen

entire year there’s twelve or sixteen craft distilleries I think over time it

craft distilleries I think over time it

craft distilleries I think over time it will become at least a presence in terms

will become at least a presence in terms

will become at least a presence in terms of the market and what people come to

of the market and what people come to

of the market and what people come to appreciate about going out in New York

appreciate about going out in New York

appreciate about going out in New York City

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