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kid any person would ever walked to

kid any person would ever walked to beach

beach

beach I think everybody’s thought about

I think everybody’s thought about

I think everybody’s thought about finding pirate treasure

finding pirate treasure

finding pirate treasure in April 17 17 the Whydah crashed on the

in April 17 17 the Whydah crashed on the

in April 17 17 the Whydah crashed on the shores of Cape Cod I was certain that I

shores of Cape Cod I was certain that I

shores of Cape Cod I was certain that I wanted to look for this show

wanted to look for this show

wanted to look for this show it’s offering us a glimpse into this

it’s offering us a glimpse into this

it’s offering us a glimpse into this never-seen-before world of pirates

never-seen-before world of pirates

never-seen-before world of pirates it’s the only documented pirate treasure

it’s the only documented pirate treasure

it’s the only documented pirate treasure period but there was a story here that

period but there was a story here that

period but there was a story here that was much more valuable than any of the

was much more valuable than any of the

was much more valuable than any of the artifacts

well thank you very much it’s a great

well thank you very much it’s a great honor to be here I sort of the last

honor to be here I sort of the last

honor to be here I sort of the last place I would have ever expected to be

place I would have ever expected to be

place I would have ever expected to be when I was a kid growing up on the Cape

when I was a kid growing up on the Cape

when I was a kid growing up on the Cape when I used to sit around the fish house

when I used to sit around the fish house

when I used to sit around the fish house with my Uncle Bill and all of my uncles

with my Uncle Bill and all of my uncles

with my Uncle Bill and all of my uncles who had not too long had you know had

who had not too long had you know had

who had not too long had you know had just come back from World War two and we

just come back from World War two and we

just come back from World War two and we would hear the stories and our favorite

would hear the stories and our favorite

would hear the stories and our favorite story was from my uncle bill and it was

story was from my uncle bill and it was

story was from my uncle bill and it was the story of a pirate ship that had

the story of a pirate ship that had

the story of a pirate ship that had wrecked off the Cape now my other uncles

wrecked off the Cape now my other uncles

wrecked off the Cape now my other uncles referred to Uncle Bill as Uncle ball so

referred to Uncle Bill as Uncle ball so

referred to Uncle Bill as Uncle ball so so there was always a modicum of doubt

so there was always a modicum of doubt

so there was always a modicum of doubt not with me I I believed everything bill

not with me I I believed everything bill

not with me I I believed everything bill said but my uncle’s I could see them

said but my uncle’s I could see them

said but my uncle’s I could see them sort of winking at each other and there

sort of winking at each other and there

sort of winking at each other and there was always that story of that pirate

was always that story of that pirate

was always that story of that pirate ship but I think everybody every every

ship but I think everybody every every

ship but I think everybody every every kid any person that ever walked a beach

kid any person that ever walked a beach

kid any person that ever walked a beach I think everybody’s thought about

I think everybody’s thought about

I think everybody’s thought about finding pirate treasure I mean I’ve read

finding pirate treasure I mean I’ve read

finding pirate treasure I mean I’ve read the stories about people finding Captain

the stories about people finding Captain

the stories about people finding Captain Kidd’s ship in Kansas so you know so

Kidd’s ship in Kansas so you know so

Kidd’s ship in Kansas so you know so it’s it’s but this cover of National

it’s it’s but this cover of National

it’s it’s but this cover of National Geographic magazine you know of all the

Geographic magazine you know of all the

Geographic magazine you know of all the treasures in the world it’s the only

treasures in the world it’s the only

treasures in the world it’s the only documented pirate treasure period all of

documented pirate treasure period all of

documented pirate treasure period all of the treasures that we’ve heard about you

the treasures that we’ve heard about you

the treasures that we’ve heard about you know in the Caribbean it’s not pirate

know in the Caribbean it’s not pirate

know in the Caribbean it’s not pirate treasure Spanish galleons this is real

treasure Spanish galleons this is real

treasure Spanish galleons this is real pirate treasure this is the stuff that

pirate treasure this is the stuff that

pirate treasure this is the stuff that rubble it’s Robert Louis Stevenson wrote

rubble it’s Robert Louis Stevenson wrote

rubble it’s Robert Louis Stevenson wrote about it’s the stuff that I dreamt about

about it’s the stuff that I dreamt about

about it’s the stuff that I dreamt about and when I started off as a kid you know

and when I started off as a kid you know

and when I started off as a kid you know when it was gonna what was I gonna do

when it was gonna what was I gonna do

when it was gonna what was I gonna do with all that treasure you know with all

with all that treasure you know with all

with all that treasure you know with all this millions of dollars that we would

this millions of dollars that we would

this millions of dollars that we would get when we salvaged it but of course

get when we salvaged it but of course

get when we salvaged it but of course when I found the ship I realized that I

when I found the ship I realized that I

when I found the ship I realized that I couldn’t sell anything

couldn’t sell anything

couldn’t sell anything that there was that that there was a

that there was that that there was a

that there was that that there was a story here that was much more valuable

story here that was much more valuable

story here that was much more valuable than any of the artifacts so I did a

than any of the artifacts so I did a

than any of the artifacts so I did a complete right turn after we discovered

complete right turn after we discovered

complete right turn after we discovered the ship that this was something I could

the ship that this was something I could

the ship that this was something I could never sell I’ve never sold an artifact

never sell I’ve never sold an artifact

never sell I’ve never sold an artifact and I’m so proud to be with National

and I’m so proud to be with National

and I’m so proud to be with National Geographic and we have two world-class

Geographic and we have two world-class

Geographic and we have two world-class exhibits traveling around the world real

exhibits traveling around the world real

exhibits traveling around the world real pirates and a lot of people really put a

pirates and a lot of people really put a

pirates and a lot of people really put a lot of tremendous sacrifice it’s been

lot of tremendous sacrifice it’s been

lot of tremendous sacrifice it’s been over 30 years for me on the Whydah not

over 30 years for me on the Whydah not

over 30 years for me on the Whydah not to mention all the years dreaming so as

to mention all the years dreaming so as

to mention all the years dreaming so as I heard as I heard these stories as a

I heard as I heard these stories as a

I heard as I heard these stories as a boy about the ship there was a legend of

boy about the ship there was a legend of

boy about the ship there was a legend of this handsome young sailor that came to

this handsome young sailor that came to

this handsome young sailor that came to Cape Cod in 1715 and he met this

Cape Cod in 1715 and he met this

Cape Cod in 1715 and he met this beautiful young girl from Wellfleet her

beautiful young girl from Wellfleet her

beautiful young girl from Wellfleet her her hair was the color of corn silk in

her hair was the color of corn silk in

her hair was the color of corn silk in her eyes or as blue as the deeps of gull

her eyes or as blue as the deeps of gull

her eyes or as blue as the deeps of gull pond these were some of the things that

pond these were some of the things that

pond these were some of the things that I remember as a kid and reading about

I remember as a kid and reading about

I remember as a kid and reading about her and her name was Maria halan

her and her name was Maria halan

her and her name was Maria halan and Bellamy promised he was going to go

and Bellamy promised he was going to go

and Bellamy promised he was going to go to the Caribbean to salvage the 1715

to the Caribbean to salvage the 1715

to the Caribbean to salvage the 1715 Spanish treasure fleet all of the

Spanish treasure fleet all of the

Spanish treasure fleet all of the Spanish galleons that wrecked and he

Spanish galleons that wrecked and he

Spanish galleons that wrecked and he left Maria and he promised to come back

left Maria and he promised to come back

left Maria and he promised to come back someday with a rich dowry and they would

someday with a rich dowry and they would

someday with a rich dowry and they would be married and off he went to the

be married and off he went to the

be married and off he went to the Caribbean the Whydah which was a slave

Caribbean the Whydah which was a slave

Caribbean the Whydah which was a slave ship that was built to carry slaves back

ship that was built to carry slaves back

ship that was built to carry slaves back from witih were 2 to 3 million slaves

from witih were 2 to 3 million slaves

from witih were 2 to 3 million slaves were exported from this part of Africa

were exported from this part of Africa

were exported from this part of Africa and when the widow dropped off a

and when the widow dropped off a

and when the widow dropped off a shipment of slaves in Jamaica it was

shipment of slaves in Jamaica it was

shipment of slaves in Jamaica it was headed back to England with money and

headed back to England with money and

headed back to England with money and all of the things that they were able to

all of the things that they were able to

all of the things that they were able to gather in in Africa that were on the

gather in in Africa that were on the

gather in in Africa that were on the ship and the widow was a 26 gun ship of

ship and the widow was a 26 gun ship of

ship and the widow was a 26 gun ship of about 300 tons was a brand-new vessel it

about 300 tons was a brand-new vessel it

about 300 tons was a brand-new vessel it was built in 1716 and on this first

was built in 1716 and on this first

was built in 1716 and on this first voyage after dropping a shipment of

voyage after dropping a shipment of

voyage after dropping a shipment of slaves off in Jamaica she was captured

slaves off in Jamaica she was captured

slaves off in Jamaica she was captured by Sam Bellamy who gave up looking

by Sam Bellamy who gave up looking

by Sam Bellamy who gave up looking Spanish treasure ships and went on the

Spanish treasure ships and went on the

Spanish treasure ships and went on the account or turned pirate and the widow

account or turned pirate and the widow

account or turned pirate and the widow was the 50th ship that he captured but

was the 50th ship that he captured but

was the 50th ship that he captured but off of Cape Cod in April of 1717 the

off of Cape Cod in April of 1717 the

off of Cape Cod in April of 1717 the widow was caught in this horrific storm

widow was caught in this horrific storm

widow was caught in this horrific storm and crashed on the shores of Cape Cod

and crashed on the shores of Cape Cod

and crashed on the shores of Cape Cod off of Wellfleet and the moon custer’s

off of Wellfleet and the moon custer’s

off of Wellfleet and the moon custer’s showed up the next day these are people

showed up the next day these are people

showed up the next day these are people who cursed the moon because they wanted

who cursed the moon because they wanted

who cursed the moon because they wanted things dark so that they could rob ships

things dark so that they could rob ships

things dark so that they could rob ships that came ashore and you can see these

that came ashore and you can see these

that came ashore and you can see these fellows busy at work

fellows busy at work

fellows busy at work robbing everything that was washing away

robbing everything that was washing away

robbing everything that was washing away you know off of the ship you know I was

you know off of the ship you know I was

you know off of the ship you know I was certain that I wanted to look for the

certain that I wanted to look for the

certain that I wanted to look for the ship but I didn’t have any I didn’t have

ship but I didn’t have any I didn’t have

ship but I didn’t have any I didn’t have enough documentation to so you know this

enough documentation to so you know this

enough documentation to so you know this was a Jack and the Beanstalk deal this

was a Jack and the Beanstalk deal this

was a Jack and the Beanstalk deal this was I was really gonna have to bet the

was I was really gonna have to bet the

was I was really gonna have to bet the farm I had to have something that was

farm I had to have something that was

farm I had to have something that was really solid and I came across this

really solid and I came across this

really solid and I came across this document which is a map and the map was

document which is a map and the map was

document which is a map and the map was drawn by a fellow by the name of Cyprian

drawn by a fellow by the name of Cyprian

drawn by a fellow by the name of Cyprian south hack who was sent by the governor

south hack who was sent by the governor

south hack who was sent by the governor of Massachusetts to salvage the Whydah

of Massachusetts to salvage the Whydah

of Massachusetts to salvage the Whydah after it wrecked this person was a well

after it wrecked this person was a well

after it wrecked this person was a well known map maker he was in his 50s he was

known map maker he was in his 50s he was

known map maker he was in his 50s he was chosen by the governor of Massachusetts

chosen by the governor of Massachusetts

chosen by the governor of Massachusetts to salvage the shipwreck this was a

to salvage the shipwreck this was a

to salvage the shipwreck this was a solid piece of documentation and this is

solid piece of documentation and this is

solid piece of documentation and this is a treasure map place with the pirate

a treasure map place with the pirate

a treasure map place with the pirate ship would erect Bellamy command where I

ship would erect Bellamy command where I

ship would erect Bellamy command where I buried 102 men drowned pirate ship widow

he also kept a ship’s log couldn’t spell

he also kept a ship’s log couldn’t spell very well but he the things that he was

very well but he the things that he was

very well but he the things that he was saying were things that I could

saying were things that I could

saying were things that I could understand as a salver because he was in

understand as a salver because he was in

understand as a salver because he was in the salvage business he said that the

the salvage business he said that the

the salvage business he said that the water was messy with sand and he

water was messy with sand and he

water was messy with sand and he couldn’t see and they had tongs to Tong

couldn’t see and they had tongs to Tong

couldn’t see and they had tongs to Tong for things and the storm lasted for

for things and the storm lasted for

for things and the storm lasted for several days and he could watch the ship

several days and he could watch the ship

several days and he could watch the ship on the outer sandbar this is wrecked

on the outer sandbar this is wrecked

on the outer sandbar this is wrecked very close to shore only 1500 feet from

very close to shore only 1500 feet from

very close to shore only 1500 feet from shore well less than that because all of

shore well less than that because all of

shore well less than that because all of the erosion on the Cape this was

the erosion on the Cape this was

the erosion on the Cape this was probably less than a thousand feet from

probably less than a thousand feet from

probably less than a thousand feet from shore at the time that it wrecked and it

shore at the time that it wrecked and it

shore at the time that it wrecked and it was one of the worst storms of the

was one of the worst storms of the

was one of the worst storms of the century

he watched it so here’s somebody who’s

he watched it so here’s somebody who’s in my business you know who’s a salvage

in my business you know who’s a salvage

in my business you know who’s a salvage person watching this ship breakup and he

person watching this ship breakup and he

person watching this ship breakup and he said the next day she turned bought him

said the next day she turned bought him

said the next day she turned bought him up and the decks spell out their riches

up and the decks spell out their riches

up and the decks spell out their riches with the guns will be buried in the sand

with the guns will be buried in the sand

with the guns will be buried in the sand the riches with the guns will be buried

the riches with the guns will be buried

the riches with the guns will be buried in the sand that resonates every night I

in the sand that resonates every night I

in the sand that resonates every night I go to dice dreamt about that for 30

go to dice dreamt about that for 30

go to dice dreamt about that for 30 years what did he mean well he meant the

years what did he mean well he meant the

years what did he mean well he meant the 26 guns that were on the Whydah he’s

26 guns that were on the Whydah he’s

26 guns that were on the Whydah he’s telling me where the treasure is and as

telling me where the treasure is and as

telling me where the treasure is and as I said when I started this there’s no

I said when I started this there’s no

I said when I started this there’s no question about it we were looking for

question about it we were looking for

question about it we were looking for treasure I didn’t know what I was gonna

treasure I didn’t know what I was gonna

treasure I didn’t know what I was gonna do with it it was mostly the adventure I

do with it it was mostly the adventure I

do with it it was mostly the adventure I have for me I think but you know we

have for me I think but you know we

have for me I think but you know we found thousands and thousands of coins

found thousands and thousands of coins

found thousands and thousands of coins and artifacts but we still up until very

and artifacts but we still up until very

and artifacts but we still up until very recently hadn’t found what we were

recently hadn’t found what we were

recently hadn’t found what we were looking for now another document that

looking for now another document that

looking for now another document that surfaced out of the 180 pirates that

surfaced out of the 180 pirates that

surfaced out of the 180 pirates that were in the Whydah pirate gang eight of

were in the Whydah pirate gang eight of

were in the Whydah pirate gang eight of them survived this shipwreck and they

them survived this shipwreck and they

them survived this shipwreck and they were taken to Boston and tried and

were taken to Boston and tried and

were taken to Boston and tried and everything they said was transcribed by

everything they said was transcribed by

everything they said was transcribed by a court stenographer and one of the

a court stenographer and one of the

a court stenographer and one of the Pirates testified he said fifty pounds

Pirates testified he said fifty pounds

Pirates testified he said fifty pounds was added to every man share the money

was added to every man share the money

was added to every man share the money was kept in bags in chests between decks

was kept in bags in chests between decks

was kept in bags in chests between decks well what happens when that you know the

well what happens when that you know the

well what happens when that you know the treasure that’s between deck something

treasure that’s between deck something

treasure that’s between deck something has to happen to it we’re gonna get that

has to happen to it we’re gonna get that

has to happen to it we’re gonna get that I’ll get to that in a few minutes in the

I’ll get to that in a few minutes in the

I’ll get to that in a few minutes in the fall of 1982 John Kennedy Jr who worked

fall of 1982 John Kennedy Jr who worked

fall of 1982 John Kennedy Jr who worked for me on the vineyard where we lived in

for me on the vineyard where we lived in

for me on the vineyard where we lived in myself

myself

myself we hired a local fisherman to take us

we hired a local fisherman to take us

we hired a local fisherman to take us out to the site we did a magnetometer

out to the site we did a magnetometer

out to the site we did a magnetometer survey we were determined that there was

survey we were determined that there was

survey we were determined that there was an area in the survey that was hot in

an area in the survey that was hot in

an area in the survey that was hot in other words there was a lot of metal

other words there was a lot of metal

other words there was a lot of metal there deed there was 26 cannon that

there deed there was 26 cannon that

there deed there was 26 cannon that would give off a big

would give off a big

would give off a big magnetic signature in other words this

magnetic signature in other words this

magnetic signature in other words this would indicate the disturbance level of

would indicate the disturbance level of

would indicate the disturbance level of how much iron would be in the Earth’s

how much iron would be in the Earth’s

how much iron would be in the Earth’s magnetic field this is an old machine by

magnetic field this is an old machine by

magnetic field this is an old machine by the way back from the 80s but we were

the way back from the 80s but we were

the way back from the 80s but we were able to calculate the difference in the

able to calculate the difference in the

able to calculate the difference in the Earth’s magnetic field and that’s where

Earth’s magnetic field and that’s where

Earth’s magnetic field and that’s where we felt that the Whydah wrecked and

we felt that the Whydah wrecked and

we felt that the Whydah wrecked and after john doe von the wreck and came up

after john doe von the wreck and came up

after john doe von the wreck and came up and looked at me and said barry there’s

and looked at me and said barry there’s

and looked at me and said barry there’s nothing but sand

nothing but sand

nothing but sand we decided how we’re going to go through

we decided how we’re going to go through

we decided how we’re going to go through the sand we’d built two mailboxes which

the sand we’d built two mailboxes which

the sand we’d built two mailboxes which is able to divert the energy from the

is able to divert the energy from the

is able to divert the energy from the propellers as the propellers spin and

propellers as the propellers spin and

propellers as the propellers spin and the energy from that the water stream is

the energy from that the water stream is

the energy from that the water stream is diverted straight down where you can

diverted straight down where you can

diverted straight down where you can blow the sand away and as you get close

blow the sand away and as you get close

blow the sand away and as you get close to artifact level which is very deep

to artifact level which is very deep

to artifact level which is very deep it’s now we’re finding 30 feet under the

it’s now we’re finding 30 feet under the

it’s now we’re finding 30 feet under the sand artifacts migrate to a layer of

sand artifacts migrate to a layer of

sand artifacts migrate to a layer of Pleistocene glacial till we just found

Pleistocene glacial till we just found

Pleistocene glacial till we just found out that it’s even deeper than we

out that it’s even deeper than we

out that it’s even deeper than we thought we’d always been working 10 to

thought we’d always been working 10 to

thought we’d always been working 10 to 20 feet below sand we now know that this

20 feet below sand we now know that this

20 feet below sand we now know that this is a whole other layer 30 feet below the

is a whole other layer 30 feet below the

is a whole other layer 30 feet below the santé one day after blowing we get down

santé one day after blowing we get down

santé one day after blowing we get down to a level and we found what turned out

to a level and we found what turned out

to a level and we found what turned out to be a cannonball and out of the

to be a cannonball and out of the

to be a cannonball and out of the cannonball there was a little coin and

cannonball there was a little coin and

cannonball there was a little coin and it turned out to be 1684 and then there

it turned out to be 1684 and then there

it turned out to be 1684 and then there was this trigger guard from a musket for

was this trigger guard from a musket for

was this trigger guard from a musket for me I knew at that time that I had found

me I knew at that time that I had found

me I knew at that time that I had found the widow I mean it wasn’t enough

the widow I mean it wasn’t enough

the widow I mean it wasn’t enough evidence to prove everything but it was

evidence to prove everything but it was

evidence to prove everything but it was exactly where it was supposed to be I

exactly where it was supposed to be I

exactly where it was supposed to be I knew it but the state historian did not

knew it but the state historian did not

knew it but the state historian did not believe me

believe me

believe me and and indeed she was smart not to in

and and indeed she was smart not to in

and and indeed she was smart not to in fact I was giving a talk when knighted

fact I was giving a talk when knighted

fact I was giving a talk when knighted at a church in Wellfleet before we found

at a church in Wellfleet before we found

at a church in Wellfleet before we found the wreck and an elderly lady came up to

the wreck and an elderly lady came up to

the wreck and an elderly lady came up to me and held her wrist out after the talk

me and held her wrist out after the talk

me and held her wrist out after the talk and said my grandfather said he found

and said my grandfather said he found

and said my grandfather said he found these coins on the beach and he said

these coins on the beach and he said

these coins on the beach and he said that they came from the widow and they

that they came from the widow and they

that they came from the widow and they were gold escudos little gold escudos

were gold escudos little gold escudos

were gold escudos little gold escudos about a half an ounce each and they had

about a half an ounce each and they had

about a half an ounce each and they had slice marks in them like someone hit

slice marks in them like someone hit

slice marks in them like someone hit them with a knife or a file and I’ll

them with a knife or a file and I’ll

them with a knife or a file and I’ll never forget that but it didn’t it was

never forget that but it didn’t it was

never forget that but it didn’t it was kind of like okay somebody else found

kind of like okay somebody else found

kind of like okay somebody else found the widow didn’t really sink in because

the widow didn’t really sink in because

the widow didn’t really sink in because there’s always lots and lots of treasure

there’s always lots and lots of treasure

there’s always lots and lots of treasure stories but you’ll see why that’s

stories but you’ll see why that’s

stories but you’ll see why that’s important and in a few minutes here so

important and in a few minutes here so

important and in a few minutes here so we we went out to the site we were

we we went out to the site we were

we we went out to the site we were bringing up bags of treasure here’s a

bringing up bags of treasure here’s a

bringing up bags of treasure here’s a bag and in the bag there were these

bag and in the bag there were these

bag and in the bag there were these chunks of gold this is a Spanish bar it

chunks of gold this is a Spanish bar it

chunks of gold this is a Spanish bar it would be as long as a small sandwich sub

would be as long as a small sandwich sub

would be as long as a small sandwich sub you know but but it had those same slice

you know but but it had those same slice

you know but but it had those same slice marks in it that those coins had that

marks in it that those coins had that

marks in it that those coins had that that elderly lady had on her wrist the

that elderly lady had on her wrist the

that elderly lady had on her wrist the Pirates were testing it to see if it

Pirates were testing it to see if it

Pirates were testing it to see if it were counterfeit because each one of

were counterfeit because each one of

were counterfeit because each one of these pieces of gold that would have

these pieces of gold that would have

these pieces of gold that would have been the size of a small pizza a disc of

been the size of a small pizza a disc of

been the size of a small pizza a disc of solid gold but they’re broken up into

solid gold but they’re broken up into

solid gold but they’re broken up into pieces and all of these black objects

pieces and all of these black objects

pieces and all of these black objects are pieces of eight coins Spanish coins

are pieces of eight coins Spanish coins

are pieces of eight coins Spanish coins Dutch coins French coins and why are the

Dutch coins French coins and why are the

Dutch coins French coins and why are the Pirates dividing breaking because they

Pirates dividing breaking because they

Pirates dividing breaking because they were dividing up everything equally

they were democratic they were

they were democratic they were experimenting and democracy each man had

experimenting and democracy each man had

experimenting and democracy each man had an equal share and here was proof these

an equal share and here was proof these

an equal share and here was proof these gold bars that were cut into pieces this

gold bars that were cut into pieces this

gold bars that were cut into pieces this would have been the minimum share that

would have been the minimum share that

would have been the minimum share that somebody would have got when a ship was

somebody would have got when a ship was

somebody would have got when a ship was robbed and again fifty pounds was added

robbed and again fifty pounds was added

robbed and again fifty pounds was added to every man share there being a hundred

to every man share there being a hundred

to every man share there being a hundred 80 men and this is just out of a little

80 men and this is just out of a little

80 men and this is just out of a little 8 foot by 8 foot test spit every

8 foot by 8 foot test spit every

8 foot by 8 foot test spit every artifact is measured in we bring up the

artifact is measured in we bring up the

artifact is measured in we bring up the artifacts they’re bagged very carefully

artifacts they’re bagged very carefully

artifacts they’re bagged very carefully and numbered so every single artifact

and numbered so every single artifact

and numbered so every single artifact here has a position where it came from

here has a position where it came from

here has a position where it came from and then they’re tagged and photographed

and then they’re tagged and photographed

and then they’re tagged and photographed and drawn and we have you know over 200

and drawn and we have you know over 200

and drawn and we have you know over 200 thousand artifacts recorded this is just

thousand artifacts recorded this is just

thousand artifacts recorded this is just one dive and the problem there is that

one dive and the problem there is that

one dive and the problem there is that the sand is caving in and during big big

the sand is caving in and during big big

the sand is caving in and during big big storms the site is being destroyed so

storms the site is being destroyed so

storms the site is being destroyed so it’s it’s really a situation where we’re

it’s it’s really a situation where we’re

it’s it’s really a situation where we’re going is trying to go as fast as we can

going is trying to go as fast as we can

going is trying to go as fast as we can it’s been 30 years but you know to save

it’s been 30 years but you know to save

it’s been 30 years but you know to save this thing because it’s offering us a

this thing because it’s offering us a

this thing because it’s offering us a glimpse into this never-seen-before

glimpse into this never-seen-before

glimpse into this never-seen-before world of pirates these guys were voting

world of pirates these guys were voting

world of pirates these guys were voting and in fact 1/3 of these people were of

and in fact 1/3 of these people were of

and in fact 1/3 of these people were of African origin they were black native

African origin they were black native

African origin they were black native they were people who were equal on board

they were people who were equal on board

they were people who were equal on board the Whydah and some of them Africans

the Whydah and some of them Africans

the Whydah and some of them Africans were being elected by predominantly

were being elected by predominantly

were being elected by predominantly European crews as officers and even

European crews as officers and even

European crews as officers and even captains on board slave ships we have

captains on board slave ships we have

captains on board slave ships we have absolute proof of this in fact you

absolute proof of this in fact you

absolute proof of this in fact you didn’t read about this I never saw that

didn’t read about this I never saw that

didn’t read about this I never saw that in Disney when I was a kid with Treasure

in Disney when I was a kid with Treasure

in Disney when I was a kid with Treasure Island I didn’t see any black people but

Island I didn’t see any black people but

Island I didn’t see any black people but 1/3 of the Pirates in the Golden Age of

1/3 of the Pirates in the Golden Age of

1/3 of the Pirates in the Golden Age of piracy were of African origin most of

piracy were of African origin most of

piracy were of African origin most of whom were former slaves but still the

whom were former slaves but still the

whom were former slaves but still the state historian didn’t believe us that

state historian didn’t believe us that

state historian didn’t believe us that we had the Whydah

we had the Whydah

we had the Whydah until this happened we found a ship’s

until this happened we found a ship’s

until this happened we found a ship’s Bell at the bottom of a 20-foot deep pit

Bell at the bottom of a 20-foot deep pit

Bell at the bottom of a 20-foot deep pit and here we’re bringing it up and this

and here we’re bringing it up and this

and here we’re bringing it up and this is a concretion this is a massive

is a concretion this is a massive

is a concretion this is a massive material when iron is submerged in salt

material when iron is submerged in salt

material when iron is submerged in salt water it’ll start to degra gate and an

water it’ll start to degra gate and an

water it’ll start to degra gate and an electrical field will form around a

electrical field will form around a

electrical field will form around a piece of iron depending how big it is

piece of iron depending how big it is

piece of iron depending how big it is and anything within that field whether

and anything within that field whether

and anything within that field whether it’s human remains or shoes or coins

it’s human remains or shoes or coins

it’s human remains or shoes or coins will be encapsulated in these

will be encapsulated in these

will be encapsulated in these concretions I mean they’re variable

concretions I mean they’re variable

concretions I mean they’re variable treasure chests

and one day I get a call from the

and one day I get a call from the laboratory and said Barry you better get

laboratory and said Barry you better get

laboratory and said Barry you better get over to the lab we just found a W on the

over to the lab we just found a W on the

over to the lab we just found a W on the Bell because the whole word Widow was on

Bell because the whole word Widow was on

Bell because the whole word Widow was on the other side of the concretion and as

the other side of the concretion and as

the other side of the concretion and as the concretion was taken away it just

the concretion was taken away it just

the concretion was taken away it just doesn’t say Widow it says the Whydah

doesn’t say Widow it says the Whydah

doesn’t say Widow it says the Whydah Gally 1716 1716 and it was the cover of

Gally 1716 1716 and it was the cover of

Gally 1716 1716 and it was the cover of the New York Times the next day and

the New York Times the next day and

the New York Times the next day and there’s the Bell today and we’ve kept it

there’s the Bell today and we’ve kept it

there’s the Bell today and we’ve kept it submerged in water with the concretion

submerged in water with the concretion

submerged in water with the concretion still on it

still on it

still on it the Whydah Gally G al ly and again all

the Whydah Gally G al ly and again all

the Whydah Gally G al ly and again all sorts of things are encapsulated in

sorts of things are encapsulated in

sorts of things are encapsulated in concretions including the bones a shoe

concretions including the bones a shoe

concretions including the bones a shoe size six shoe very carefully made silk

size six shoe very carefully made silk

size six shoe very carefully made silk stocking and a human leg bone and for

stocking and a human leg bone and for

stocking and a human leg bone and for years I would go into our laboratory and

years I would go into our laboratory and

years I would go into our laboratory and my historian is beyond brilliant he

my historian is beyond brilliant he

my historian is beyond brilliant he knows everything there is to know about

knows everything there is to know about

knows everything there is to know about pirates and he’s been with me for over

pirates and he’s been with me for over

pirates and he’s been with me for over 25 years

25 years

25 years but he doesn’t have a clue about normal

but he doesn’t have a clue about normal

but he doesn’t have a clue about normal things like in the new the coffee stand

things like in the new the coffee stand

things like in the new the coffee stand he’d walk right in the wall drinking his

he’d walk right in the wall drinking his

he’d walk right in the wall drinking his coffee and and one day I said Ken it’s

coffee and and one day I said Ken it’s

coffee and and one day I said Ken it’s really small pirates on board the witih

really small pirates on board the witih

really small pirates on board the witih size six shoe I said were there any kids

size six shoe I said were there any kids

size six shoe I said were there any kids on board the ship is it oh yes there was

on board the ship is it oh yes there was

on board the ship is it oh yes there was a boy Ken it’s been years why didn’t

a boy Ken it’s been years why didn’t

a boy Ken it’s been years why didn’t know and his name was John King he was

know and his name was John King he was

know and his name was John King he was on a ship called the Bonita they were

on a ship called the Bonita they were

on a ship called the Bonita they were leaving Jamaica and I’ve got a letter

leaving Jamaica and I’ve got a letter

leaving Jamaica and I’ve got a letter somewhere to the Governor of Jamaica

somewhere to the Governor of Jamaica

somewhere to the Governor of Jamaica from captain savage who was the captain

from captain savage who was the captain

from captain savage who was the captain of the bonita complaining about this

of the bonita complaining about this

of the bonita complaining about this very rebellious young boy named john

very rebellious young boy named john

very rebellious young boy named john king who threatened his mother and

king who threatened his mother and

king who threatened his mother and joined the pirate crew now that stalking

joined the pirate crew now that stalking

joined the pirate crew now that stalking and leg bone and shoe was found in this

and leg bone and shoe was found in this

and leg bone and shoe was found in this cannon so apparently what happened is

cannon so apparently what happened is

cannon so apparently what happened is when the ship turned over john king was

when the ship turned over john king was

when the ship turned over john king was crushed and his bone and shoe and sock

crushed and his bone and shoe and sock

crushed and his bone and shoe and sock concreted to the cannon but this is sort

concreted to the cannon but this is sort

concreted to the cannon but this is sort of the things that we’re finding and

of the things that we’re finding and

of the things that we’re finding and this wasn’t disguise

this wasn’t disguise

this wasn’t disguise you know only years after you know we

you know only years after you know we

you know only years after you know we discovered it so that’s why it’s

discovered it so that’s why it’s

discovered it so that’s why it’s important in what we do and in

important in what we do and in

important in what we do and in archaeology is and that things aren’t

archaeology is and that things aren’t

archaeology is and that things aren’t sold is to keep the collection together

sold is to keep the collection together

sold is to keep the collection together so academics can squabble about what

so academics can squabble about what

so academics can squabble about what they are including this akan jewelry and

they are including this akan jewelry and

they are including this akan jewelry and we have hundreds of pieces of akan gold

we have hundreds of pieces of akan gold

we have hundreds of pieces of akan gold that were being traded along with the

that were being traded along with the

that were being traded along with the slaves by the European slave traders and

slaves by the European slave traders and

slaves by the European slave traders and it’s the oldest reliably dated

it’s the oldest reliably dated

it’s the oldest reliably dated collection of akan jewelry in the world

collection of akan jewelry in the world

collection of akan jewelry in the world I’m told this is our laboratory on Cape

I’m told this is our laboratory on Cape

I’m told this is our laboratory on Cape Cod where we’re making discoveries every

Cod where we’re making discoveries every

Cod where we’re making discoveries every day in this lab there are over 30,000

day in this lab there are over 30,000

day in this lab there are over 30,000 pounds of concretion x’ look at all

pounds of concretion x’ look at all

pounds of concretion x’ look at all those bags these are actually artifacts

those bags these are actually artifacts

those bags these are actually artifacts that have been Deacon creted but the

that have been Deacon creted but the

that have been Deacon creted but the concretions themselves we x-ray and we

concretions themselves we x-ray and we

concretions themselves we x-ray and we have an x-rayed them yet – just four

have an x-rayed them yet – just four

have an x-rayed them yet – just four fragments of gold dust and all that and

fragments of gold dust and all that and

fragments of gold dust and all that and each of these tanks can contain cannon

each of these tanks can contain cannon

each of these tanks can contain cannon and concretions this anchor was recently

and concretions this anchor was recently

and concretions this anchor was recently Deacon creted you can see the concretion

Deacon creted you can see the concretion

Deacon creted you can see the concretion from the anchor there and now here’s the

from the anchor there and now here’s the

from the anchor there and now here’s the big twist the we didn’t have 24 cannon

big twist the we didn’t have 24 cannon

big twist the we didn’t have 24 cannon we found over 60 so the guns that South

we found over 60 so the guns that South

we found over 60 so the guns that South hack was talking about the riches with

hack was talking about the riches with

hack was talking about the riches with the guns would be buried in the sin I

the guns would be buried in the sin I

the guns would be buried in the sin I had no idea nobody would have had any

had no idea nobody would have had any

had no idea nobody would have had any idea that there were those extra guns

idea that there were those extra guns

idea that there were those extra guns but the guns that he was referring to

but the guns that he was referring to

but the guns that he was referring to were the guns that were in the bottom of

were the guns that were in the bottom of

were the guns that were in the bottom of the ship the guns that we just found and

the ship the guns that we just found and

the ship the guns that we just found and concrete ‘add to this anchor was the top

concrete ‘add to this anchor was the top

concrete ‘add to this anchor was the top of a treasure chest here you can see a

of a treasure chest here you can see a

of a treasure chest here you can see a heart-shaped coin rare heart-shaped coin

heart-shaped coin rare heart-shaped coin

heart-shaped coin rare heart-shaped coin with a cross on it these are probably 2

with a cross on it these are probably 2

with a cross on it these are probably 2 reals which are small Spanish coin you

reals which are small Spanish coin you

reals which are small Spanish coin you can see a sword hilt with the woven

can see a sword hilt with the woven

can see a sword hilt with the woven metal and the pummel you’ve heard of

metal and the pummel you’ve heard of

metal and the pummel you’ve heard of being pummeled that’s the pummel on the

being pummeled that’s the pummel on the

being pummeled that’s the pummel on the sword hilt and these are big pieces of

sword hilt and these are big pieces of

sword hilt and these are big pieces of eight this is probably Mexico that’s

eight this is probably Mexico that’s

eight this is probably Mexico that’s probably either potosi or Lima Peru

probably either potosi or Lima Peru

probably either potosi or Lima Peru that’s probably Mexico and thousands and

that’s probably Mexico and thousands and

that’s probably Mexico and thousands and thousands and thousands of artifacts are

thousands and thousands of artifacts are

thousands and thousands of artifacts are still encapsulated within

still encapsulated within

still encapsulated within these concretion so this is these I know

these concretion so this is these I know

these concretion so this is these I know these are escudos by the shape of these

these are escudos by the shape of these

these are escudos by the shape of these and they were kept in stacks and this is

and they were kept in stacks and this is

and they were kept in stacks and this is what we’ve been finding recently on the

what we’ve been finding recently on the

what we’ve been finding recently on the site we’ve been finding stacks of coins

site we’ve been finding stacks of coins

site we’ve been finding stacks of coins which mean they were in bags and that’s

which mean they were in bags and that’s

which mean they were in bags and that’s the outside of this is the concretion

the outside of this is the concretion

the outside of this is the concretion and there’s very clearly a stack of

and there’s very clearly a stack of

and there’s very clearly a stack of coins which I think are escudos and the

coins which I think are escudos and the

coins which I think are escudos and the the sword handle that you saw there’s my

the sword handle that you saw there’s my

the sword handle that you saw there’s my dad working on it and as an example

dad working on it and as an example

dad working on it and as an example every artifact that we bring out is

every artifact that we bring out is

every artifact that we bring out is carefully drawn and recorded now this

carefully drawn and recorded now this

carefully drawn and recorded now this would be the side plate off of a musket

would be the side plate off of a musket

would be the side plate off of a musket serpentine you know a symbol of ferocity

serpentine you know a symbol of ferocity

serpentine you know a symbol of ferocity and it’s brass but it’s not only

and it’s brass but it’s not only

and it’s brass but it’s not only photographed but it’s carefully drawn to

photographed but it’s carefully drawn to

photographed but it’s carefully drawn to bring out the imperfections or you know

bring out the imperfections or you know

bring out the imperfections or you know whatever might be of archaeological

whatever might be of archaeological

whatever might be of archaeological significance and this is the oldest

significance and this is the oldest

significance and this is the oldest reliably dated Freemason symbol

reliably dated Freemason symbol

reliably dated Freemason symbol Freemasonry actually somewhere around

Freemasonry actually somewhere around

Freemasonry actually somewhere around May or June of 1717 was recognized at

May or June of 1717 was recognized at

May or June of 1717 was recognized at the beginning of Freemasonry this ship

the beginning of Freemasonry this ship

the beginning of Freemasonry this ship wrecked in April of 1717 so there’s no

wrecked in April of 1717 so there’s no

wrecked in April of 1717 so there’s no there’s not an earlier reliably dated

there’s not an earlier reliably dated

there’s not an earlier reliably dated Freemason symbol and we found several of

Freemason symbol and we found several of

Freemason symbol and we found several of them you can see Jacob’s Ladder

them you can see Jacob’s Ladder

them you can see Jacob’s Ladder another Masonic symbol and this

another Masonic symbol and this

another Masonic symbol and this particular piece which happens to be my

particular piece which happens to be my

particular piece which happens to be my favorite in the whole collection

favorite in the whole collection

favorite in the whole collection it’s a blazing star leading the way and

it’s a blazing star leading the way and

it’s a blazing star leading the way and a waning and a waxing moon and a heart

a waning and a waxing moon and a heart

a waning and a waxing moon and a heart pierced by two arrows a symbol of lost

pierced by two arrows a symbol of lost

pierced by two arrows a symbol of lost love and it’s a wax seal something a

love and it’s a wax seal something a

love and it’s a wax seal something a pirate would stamp a letter to his

pirate would stamp a letter to his

pirate would stamp a letter to his girlfriend or wife with and again

girlfriend or wife with and again

girlfriend or wife with and again concretions this is a massive concretion

concretions this is a massive concretion

concretions this is a massive concretion weighing a couple thousand pounds and

weighing a couple thousand pounds and

weighing a couple thousand pounds and it’s inundated with artifacts you can

it’s inundated with artifacts you can

it’s inundated with artifacts you can see where as a pistol and these things

see where as a pistol and these things

see where as a pistol and these things haven’t been taken apart all of these

haven’t been taken apart all of these

haven’t been taken apart all of these artifacts have not seen the light of day

artifacts have not seen the light of day

artifacts have not seen the light of day I mean there’s I’ll be gone for 50 years

I mean there’s I’ll be gone for 50 years

I mean there’s I’ll be gone for 50 years when they get through with this there’s

when they get through with this there’s

when they get through with this there’s thousands of artifacts that have not

thousands of artifacts that have not

thousands of artifacts that have not been you know Deacon created and again

been you know Deacon created and again

been you know Deacon created and again over 50 ships were robbed from the widow

over 50 ships were robbed from the widow

over 50 ships were robbed from the widow and to date of the 60 cannons that we

and to date of the 60 cannons that we

and to date of the 60 cannons that we have we don’t have one

have we don’t have one

have we don’t have one carriage I think we only have fifty

carriage I think we only have fifty

carriage I think we only have fifty cannonballs we don’t have anything from

cannonballs we don’t have anything from

cannonballs we don’t have anything from the stern section of the ship and we

the stern section of the ship and we

the stern section of the ship and we think we know we think we know where it

think we know we think we know where it

think we know we think we know where it is now you know what we’re looking for

is now you know what we’re looking for

is now you know what we’re looking for you can see very clearly here there’s a

you can see very clearly here there’s a

you can see very clearly here there’s a gun a pistol we have several of these

gun a pistol we have several of these

gun a pistol we have several of these pistols you can see a set of cuff links

pistols you can see a set of cuff links

pistols you can see a set of cuff links and there’s and again the pistol came

and there’s and again the pistol came

and there’s and again the pistol came out of a concretion so it’s all covered

out of a concretion so it’s all covered

out of a concretion so it’s all covered in this concrete like material and that

in this concrete like material and that

in this concrete like material and that ribbon was wrapped around the handle

ribbon was wrapped around the handle

ribbon was wrapped around the handle meaning that a pirate could wear several

meaning that a pirate could wear several

meaning that a pirate could wear several of them around his neck and get more

of them around his neck and get more

of them around his neck and get more than one shot this is my son Brandon

than one shot this is my son Brandon

than one shot this is my son Brandon who’s been diving with me since he was a

who’s been diving with me since he was a

who’s been diving with me since he was a kid he’s 34 now back in these days the

kid he’s 34 now back in these days the

kid he’s 34 now back in these days the conservator would let him work alongside

conservator would let him work alongside

conservator would let him work alongside her at one of the tables and he he found

her at one of the tables and he he found

her at one of the tables and he he found this little coin and a piece of a

this little coin and a piece of a

this little coin and a piece of a concretion and he just told me this a

concretion and he just told me this a

concretion and he just told me this a couple of years ago he said dad I didn’t

couple of years ago he said dad I didn’t

couple of years ago he said dad I didn’t tell you this but you know I found I

tell you this but you know I found I

tell you this but you know I found I found this face on the edge of a

found this face on the edge of a

found this face on the edge of a concretion I didn’t tell anybody because

concretion I didn’t tell anybody because

concretion I didn’t tell anybody because I knew they would take it away from it

I knew they would take it away from it

I knew they would take it away from it eat it

eat it

eat it that’s the louis xiv and that’s on the

that’s the louis xiv and that’s on the

that’s the louis xiv and that’s on the butt of this pistol this particular

butt of this pistol this particular

butt of this pistol this particular piece was the cook stove that they used

piece was the cook stove that they used

piece was the cook stove that they used to cook on board the ship we actually

to cook on board the ship we actually

to cook on board the ship we actually found two of them now one would have

found two of them now one would have

found two of them now one would have been for slaves the other would have

been for slaves the other would have

been for slaves the other would have been for the crew this is a heavily

been for the crew this is a heavily

been for the crew this is a heavily concreted cannon and we’ll probably keep

concreted cannon and we’ll probably keep

concreted cannon and we’ll probably keep it like this is actually a gun door

it like this is actually a gun door

it like this is actually a gun door that’s actually the the door from the

that’s actually the the door from the

that’s actually the the door from the ship the gun door and that’s actually a

ship the gun door and that’s actually a

ship the gun door and that’s actually a small gun probably a rail gun that’s

small gun probably a rail gun that’s

small gun probably a rail gun that’s concluded to the cannon but we were able

concluded to the cannon but we were able

concluded to the cannon but we were able to get down deep and Brandon said dad I

to get down deep and Brandon said dad I

to get down deep and Brandon said dad I can hear something down there

can hear something down there

can hear something down there you know don’t move like he knows how

you know don’t move like he knows how

you know don’t move like he knows how impatient I am don’t move stay there

impatient I am don’t move stay there

impatient I am don’t move stay there so we dug and we dug and we dug and we

so we dug and we dug and we dug and we

so we dug and we dug and we dug and we don’t get down 30 feet under the sand

don’t get down 30 feet under the sand

don’t get down 30 feet under the sand everything else we found we were always

everything else we found we were always

everything else we found we were always finding at 10 to 20 feet this is stack

finding at 10 to 20 feet this is stack

finding at 10 to 20 feet this is stack of seven cannon all frozen together

of seven cannon all frozen together

of seven cannon all frozen together along with ebony wood and artifacts and

along with ebony wood and artifacts and

along with ebony wood and artifacts and two big rolls of lead

two big rolls of lead

two big rolls of lead six feet long weigh thousands of pounds

six feet long weigh thousands of pounds

six feet long weigh thousands of pounds so it weighs about 14,000 pounds so

so it weighs about 14,000 pounds so

so it weighs about 14,000 pounds so after all of those years probably like

after all of those years probably like

after all of those years probably like from 1985 we just found this whole layer

from 1985 we just found this whole layer

from 1985 we just found this whole layer of material that’s deeper than we ever

of material that’s deeper than we ever

of material that’s deeper than we ever thought along with the top of a treasure

thought along with the top of a treasure

thought along with the top of a treasure chest

chest

chest and this is what the cannon pile looked

and this is what the cannon pile looked

and this is what the cannon pile looked like so rather than breaking it apart we

like so rather than breaking it apart we

like so rather than breaking it apart we were able to bring it up in one piece

were able to bring it up in one piece

were able to bring it up in one piece again now we’re in this area we came

again now we’re in this area we came

again now we’re in this area we came back after all these years and gone

back after all these years and gone

back after all these years and gone deeper and this is what we find find

deeper and this is what we find find

deeper and this is what we find find concreted to this anchor which came out

concreted to this anchor which came out

concreted to this anchor which came out of the same pit at the top of a treasure

of the same pit at the top of a treasure

of the same pit at the top of a treasure chest that’s a an artifact sticking out

chest that’s a an artifact sticking out

chest that’s a an artifact sticking out from a concretion and it says Whydah

from a concretion and it says Whydah

from a concretion and it says Whydah Gally and that’s a nameplate that was on

Gally and that’s a nameplate that was on

Gally and that’s a nameplate that was on the top of that chest my conservator

the top of that chest my conservator

the top of that chest my conservator who’s very nervous he’s got a $300

who’s very nervous he’s got a $300

who’s very nervous he’s got a $300 camera he’s in the lab by himself his

camera he’s in the lab by himself his

camera he’s in the lab by himself his hand is shaking and he’s carefully

hand is shaking and he’s carefully

hand is shaking and he’s carefully dusting away this dust from the edge of

dusting away this dust from the edge of

dusting away this dust from the edge of the concretion that as he takes it out

the concretion that as he takes it out

the concretion that as he takes it out from the concretion and he sees the

from the concretion and he sees the

from the concretion and he sees the number one he sees the number seven he

number one he sees the number seven he

number one he sees the number seven he sees the number one so it’s going to be

sees the number one so it’s going to be

sees the number one so it’s going to be 1716 just like the Bell no 17 13 what

1716 just like the Bell no 17 13 what

1716 just like the Bell no 17 13 what the hell does that mean

the hell does that mean

the hell does that mean 1713 Whydah Gally

1713 Whydah Gally

1713 Whydah Gally he’s hands shaking like hell now as he’s

he’s hands shaking like hell now as he’s

he’s hands shaking like hell now as he’s doing the and he runs into the other

doing the and he runs into the other

doing the and he runs into the other room to see Kent who of course knows

room to see Kent who of course knows

room to see Kent who of course knows everything in Kansas ken there’s a 17-13

everything in Kansas ken there’s a 17-13

everything in Kansas ken there’s a 17-13 on the on the on the nameplate what

on the on the on the nameplate what

on the on the on the nameplate what could that mean encounter goes oh yes

could that mean encounter goes oh yes

could that mean encounter goes oh yes well there were two witness

this had to have belonged to captain

this had to have belonged to captain prints on his widow that he had before

prints on his widow that he had before

prints on his widow that he had before this Widow this wood it was built in

this Widow this wood it was built in

this Widow this wood it was built in 1716 this was 1713 so this must have

1716 this was 1713 so this must have

1716 this was 1713 so this must have been one of Captain princes chest that

been one of Captain princes chest that

been one of Captain princes chest that he kept his treasure in because all

he kept his treasure in because all

he kept his treasure in because all around that treasure chest

around that treasure chest

around that treasure chest there were coins Goldust and right where

there were coins Goldust and right where

there were coins Goldust and right where we discovered all of those cannon now I

we discovered all of those cannon now I

we discovered all of those cannon now I have to say that this all sort of came

have to say that this all sort of came

have to say that this all sort of came to reality to me a few years ago as I’m

to reality to me a few years ago as I’m

to reality to me a few years ago as I’m driving down Wisconsin Avenue in Chicago

driving down Wisconsin Avenue in Chicago

driving down Wisconsin Avenue in Chicago and from two miles away

and from two miles away

and from two miles away there’s our logo on on the field Museum

there’s our logo on on the field Museum

there’s our logo on on the field Museum I mean what the hell did we do right you

I mean what the hell did we do right you

I mean what the hell did we do right you know but there it is

know but there it is

know but there it is and we’re just so absolutely pleased to

and we’re just so absolutely pleased to

and we’re just so absolutely pleased to be involved with Geographic and so

be involved with Geographic and so

be involved with Geographic and so greatly honored that our discoveries are

greatly honored that our discoveries are

greatly honored that our discoveries are being shown here and we we really we

being shown here and we we really we

being shown here and we we really we really appreciate you coming and and and

really appreciate you coming and and and

really appreciate you coming and and and again it’s a great honor thank you very

again it’s a great honor thank you very

again it’s a great honor thank you very much

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