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I went back to Africa this time

I went back to Africa this time exploration had taken on a different

exploration had taken on a different

exploration had taken on a different different modality here we were going to

different modality here we were going to

different modality here we were going to explore the upper headwaters of the

explore the upper headwaters of the

explore the upper headwaters of the Okavango the quita liver catchment that

Okavango the quita liver catchment that

Okavango the quita liver catchment that flows out of the Angolan highlands Steve

flows out of the Angolan highlands Steve

flows out of the Angolan highlands Steve boys and other ng Explorer took us to

boys and other ng Explorer took us to

boys and other ng Explorer took us to the Angolan Highlands after basically 30

the Angolan Highlands after basically 30

the Angolan Highlands after basically 30 years of civil war 15 years of peace at

years of civil war 15 years of peace at

years of civil war 15 years of peace at this point to study this unexplored

this point to study this unexplored

this point to study this unexplored River catchment one of the reasons it’s

River catchment one of the reasons it’s

River catchment one of the reasons it’s still unexplored is because after Wars

still unexplored is because after Wars

still unexplored is because after Wars there are there are remnants and

there are there are remnants and

there are there are remnants and landmines are one of those so what

landmines are one of those so what

landmines are one of those so what happens here is that these areas are

happens here is that these areas are

happens here is that these areas are kept off-limits by the land mines is a

kept off-limits by the land mines is a

kept off-limits by the land mines is a very tragic catch-22 and as soon as the

very tragic catch-22 and as soon as the

very tragic catch-22 and as soon as the land mines are cleared people move in

land mines are cleared people move in

land mines are cleared people move in immediately right and the first thing

immediately right and the first thing

immediately right and the first thing they do is they cut down all the trees

they do is they cut down all the trees

they do is they cut down all the trees and when they cut down all the trees

and when they cut down all the trees

and when they cut down all the trees they use that for charcoal then they

they use that for charcoal then they

they use that for charcoal then they plant cassava which lasts about three

plant cassava which lasts about three

plant cassava which lasts about three years maybe and then you’ve got it

years maybe and then you’ve got it

years maybe and then you’ve got it basically a dead plot of land so you’re

basically a dead plot of land so you’re

basically a dead plot of land so you’re left between well do we do we leave the

left between well do we do we leave the

left between well do we do we leave the landmines in of course you can’t do that

landmines in of course you can’t do that

landmines in of course you can’t do that but as soon as you do it you look at

but as soon as you do it you look at

but as soon as you do it you look at massive deforestation and that’s

massive deforestation and that’s

massive deforestation and that’s happening all the time there’s no

happening all the time there’s no

happening all the time there’s no clear-cut answer this is the headwaters

clear-cut answer this is the headwaters

clear-cut answer this is the headwaters we were doing what’s called a source to

we were doing what’s called a source to

we were doing what’s called a source to sand because the Delta where the water

sand because the Delta where the water

sand because the Delta where the water of the Delta actually doesn’t flow to an

of the Delta actually doesn’t flow to an

of the Delta actually doesn’t flow to an ocean it’s very unusual every year the

ocean it’s very unusual every year the

ocean it’s very unusual every year the Delta itself in Botswana floods with

Delta itself in Botswana floods with

Delta itself in Botswana floods with 1111 cubic kilometers of water it’s the

1111 cubic kilometers of water it’s the

1111 cubic kilometers of water it’s the beating heart of southern Africa when it

beating heart of southern Africa when it

beating heart of southern Africa when it floods all the migrations come in when

floods all the migrations come in when

floods all the migrations come in when it dries up disperse and it’s very

it dries up disperse and it’s very

it dries up disperse and it’s very important for southern Africa so this is

important for southern Africa so this is

important for southern Africa so this is the source the idea was to put our

the source the idea was to put our

the source the idea was to put our mokoros or dugout canoes on that river

mokoros or dugout canoes on that river

mokoros or dugout canoes on that river flowing out of the bottom and float the

flowing out of the bottom and float the

flowing out of the bottom and float the entire length nam there was not enough

entire length nam there was not enough

entire length nam there was not enough water to float and that is it was good

water to float and that is it was good

water to float and that is it was good for me at the time I was I was feeling

for me at the time I was I was feeling

for me at the time I was I was feeling so much anger and pain and confusion I

so much anger and pain and confusion I

so much anger and pain and confusion I just get in the water with crocodiles

just get in the water with crocodiles

just get in the water with crocodiles and just start chopping it’s tough you

and just start chopping it’s tough you

and just start chopping it’s tough you know people like quarry don’t chop at

know people like quarry don’t chop at

know people like quarry don’t chop at that you’re going upstream I’m like oh

that you’re going upstream I’m like oh

that you’re going upstream I’m like oh okay

okay

okay turn around

turn around

turn around anyway you know we had this opportunity

anyway you know we had this opportunity

anyway you know we had this opportunity to finally put the mokoros in the water

to finally put the mokoros in the water

to finally put the mokoros in the water and float them and this is what it

and float them and this is what it

and float them and this is what it looked like in those upper regions you

looked like in those upper regions you

looked like in those upper regions you can see the macaw rose down on the

can see the macaw rose down on the

can see the macaw rose down on the bottom of the frame this crystal water

bottom of the frame this crystal water

bottom of the frame this crystal water but it was slow going on the right side

but it was slow going on the right side

but it was slow going on the right side here as a burn section on the left is a

here as a burn section on the left is a

here as a burn section on the left is a healthy section the right side is where

healthy section the right side is where

healthy section the right side is where people have come in and burned it down

people have come in and burned it down

people have come in and burned it down to flush game and hopefully regenerate

to flush game and hopefully regenerate

to flush game and hopefully regenerate unfortunately all that does is it

unfortunately all that does is it

unfortunately all that does is it destroys the root structure and when it

destroys the root structure and when it

destroys the root structure and when it rains it pushes more sand into the river

rains it pushes more sand into the river

rains it pushes more sand into the river destroying the flow we were also looking

destroying the flow we were also looking

destroying the flow we were also looking at these huge blockages it was drudgery

at these huge blockages it was drudgery

at these huge blockages it was drudgery I was cutting through these things we I

I was cutting through these things we I

I was cutting through these things we I mean we’re in the water with crocodiles

mean we’re in the water with crocodiles

mean we’re in the water with crocodiles or you know snakes blisters heatstroke

or you know snakes blisters heatstroke

or you know snakes blisters heatstroke all of the things that make exploration

all of the things that make exploration

all of the things that make exploration really not fun at all and this is days

really not fun at all and this is days

really not fun at all and this is days upon days and why do you do this that’s

upon days and why do you do this that’s

upon days and why do you do this that’s what that becomes the question and the

what that becomes the question and the

what that becomes the question and the answer is that were just I mean you have

answer is that were just I mean you have

answer is that were just I mean you have to do it we have to understand these

to do it we have to understand these

to do it we have to understand these landscapes because so many people and

landscapes because so many people and

landscapes because so many people and animals and plants are connected to them

animals and plants are connected to them

animals and plants are connected to them we’re all connected right we have to

we’re all connected right we have to

we’re all connected right we have to care for each other so exploration

care for each other so exploration

care for each other so exploration becomes about showing why it’s important

becomes about showing why it’s important

becomes about showing why it’s important what we found six new to science species

what we found six new to science species

what we found six new to science species of fishes dozens of new flora reptiles

of fishes dozens of new flora reptiles

of fishes dozens of new flora reptiles we were creating a holistic story of the

we were creating a holistic story of the

we were creating a holistic story of the river catchment and we found the most

river catchment and we found the most

river catchment and we found the most biodiverse unexplored corridor on earth

biodiverse unexplored corridor on earth

biodiverse unexplored corridor on earth these were the first people that didn’t

these were the first people that didn’t

these were the first people that didn’t run from us which makes sense why would

run from us which makes sense why would

run from us which makes sense why would you not run from 12 white dudes on the

you not run from 12 white dudes on the

you not run from 12 white dudes on the chorus not not not a good sight to see

chorus not not not a good sight to see

chorus not not not a good sight to see but these people were concerned they

but these people were concerned they

but these people were concerned they were concerned that the government

were concerned that the government

were concerned that the government didn’t know they were there and quite

didn’t know they were there and quite

didn’t know they were there and quite quite rightly so the government didn’t

quite rightly so the government didn’t

quite rightly so the government didn’t know they were there the government

know they were there the government

know they were there the government hadn’t been there in 40 years the last

hadn’t been there in 40 years the last

hadn’t been there in 40 years the last time with soldiers passing through and

time with soldiers passing through and

time with soldiers passing through and what I started to realize was that their

what I started to realize was that their

what I started to realize was that their concerns in the bush were no different

concerns in the bush were no different

concerns in the bush were no different that the concerns of the people in the

that the concerns of the people in the

that the concerns of the people in the Wanda the capital city this is a very

Wanda the capital city this is a very

Wanda the capital city this is a very oily and there is enough money to create

oily and there is enough money to create

oily and there is enough money to create a collective sort of well-being in this

a collective sort of well-being in this

a collective sort of well-being in this country but everybody’s concerned about

country but everybody’s concerned about

country but everybody’s concerned about their own well-being because the country

their own well-being because the country

their own well-being because the country itself is

itself is

itself is concerned about resources so as the oil

concerned about resources so as the oil

concerned about resources so as the oil prices you know if the oil crunch

prices you know if the oil crunch

prices you know if the oil crunch happens water becomes sort of a focus

happens water becomes sort of a focus

happens water becomes sort of a focus because it can be used for all sorts of

because it can be used for all sorts of

because it can be used for all sorts of things hydroelectricity

things hydroelectricity

things hydroelectricity resource or mineral extraction there’s

resource or mineral extraction there’s

resource or mineral extraction there’s all sorts of things that this water can

all sorts of things that this water can

all sorts of things that this water can be used for and everybody’s concerns are

be used for and everybody’s concerns are

be used for and everybody’s concerns are the same you know what happens to our

the same you know what happens to our

the same you know what happens to our water this was really a story about

water this was really a story about

water this was really a story about water not about just one River not just

water not about just one River not just

water not about just one River not just about the Delta at least not for me you

about the Delta at least not for me you

about the Delta at least not for me you know this is a story about what happens

know this is a story about what happens

know this is a story about what happens to the artisanal fishers of Fisheries

to the artisanal fishers of Fisheries

to the artisanal fishers of Fisheries after you know overfishing with

after you know overfishing with

after you know overfishing with industrial fishing what happens to

industrial fishing what happens to

industrial fishing what happens to subsys subsistence fishing what happens

subsys subsistence fishing what happens

subsys subsistence fishing what happens when governments think first of

when governments think first of

when governments think first of resources and how does that affect us

resources and how does that affect us

resources and how does that affect us downstream and it’s not just us it’s not

downstream and it’s not just us it’s not

downstream and it’s not just us it’s not just humans I mean we know that it’s big

just humans I mean we know that it’s big

just humans I mean we know that it’s big catch we have a big cat initiative it’s

catch we have a big cat initiative it’s

catch we have a big cat initiative it’s the water that feeds the big cats

the water that feeds the big cats

the water that feeds the big cats it’s the aquatic life it’s everything

it’s the aquatic life it’s everything

it’s the aquatic life it’s everything from the Crocs to the fishes to the

from the Crocs to the fishes to the

from the Crocs to the fishes to the algae to the grass right goes all the

algae to the grass right goes all the

algae to the grass right goes all the way down to the megafauna the elephants

way down to the megafauna the elephants

way down to the megafauna the elephants the hippos the rhinos the Buffalo all of

the hippos the rhinos the Buffalo all of

the hippos the rhinos the Buffalo all of it all the way down to the absolute

it all the way down to the absolute

it all the way down to the absolute tiniest the termites all of this is this

tiniest the termites all of this is this

tiniest the termites all of this is this interconnected web and the story doesn’t

interconnected web and the story doesn’t

interconnected web and the story doesn’t stop and start with one system it

stop and start with one system it

stop and start with one system it expands beyond it and where do we fit in

expands beyond it and where do we fit in

expands beyond it and where do we fit in in there how does the human element come

in there how does the human element come

in there how does the human element come to play because these people the sand

to play because these people the sand

to play because these people the sand people don’t exist anymore this is for

people don’t exist anymore this is for

people don’t exist anymore this is for tourism they dress up you know show

tourism they dress up you know show

tourism they dress up you know show tourists what it used to be like in fact

tourists what it used to be like in fact

tourists what it used to be like in fact Chris John’s who’s sitting right here

Chris John’s who’s sitting right here

Chris John’s who’s sitting right here did one of the last stories when this

did one of the last stories when this

did one of the last stories when this was actually genuine and so it stopped

was actually genuine and so it stopped

was actually genuine and so it stopped since then so what’s happened you know I

since then so what’s happened you know I

since then so what’s happened you know I the only thing I could think of was a

the only thing I could think of was a

the only thing I could think of was a Norman MacLean quote and it’s very

Norman MacLean quote and it’s very

Norman MacLean quote and it’s very simple eventually all things merge into

simple eventually all things merge into

simple eventually all things merge into one and river runs through it and I

one and river runs through it and I

one and river runs through it and I think that’s very poignant when I move

think that’s very poignant when I move

think that’s very poignant when I move forward here this is the last sad

forward here this is the last sad

forward here this is the last sad picture of my wife I’m going to show you

picture of my wife I’m going to show you

picture of my wife I’m going to show you but I want to just talk briefly about it

but I want to just talk briefly about it

but I want to just talk briefly about it it was funny in all of my assignments

it was funny in all of my assignments

it was funny in all of my assignments it’s only when I totally give myself up

it’s only when I totally give myself up

it’s only when I totally give myself up to it

to it

to it when I totally give myself over to it

when I totally give myself over to it

when I totally give myself over to it when I surrender do I actually start to

when I surrender do I actually start to

when I surrender do I actually start to see and it was the same with my marriage

see and it was the same with my marriage

see and it was the same with my marriage only when I totally surrendered

only when I totally surrendered

only when I totally surrendered only when she totally surrender did we

only when she totally surrender did we

only when she totally surrender did we actually see each other for who we were

actually see each other for who we were

actually see each other for who we were but by that time it was too late

but by that time it was too late

but by that time it was too late we burned things down and hopefully they

we burned things down and hopefully they

we burned things down and hopefully they regrow it was serendipitous that this

regrow it was serendipitous that this

regrow it was serendipitous that this last spring my sponsor Eddie Bauer asked

last spring my sponsor Eddie Bauer asked

last spring my sponsor Eddie Bauer asked if I would like to return to the

if I would like to return to the

if I would like to return to the mountains the place where this fracture

mountains the place where this fracture

mountains the place where this fracture started the place where the Avalanche

started the place where the Avalanche

started the place where the Avalanche had taken my life and done that with it

had taken my life and done that with it

had taken my life and done that with it and I said of course I’d love to go back

and I said of course I’d love to go back

and I said of course I’d love to go back to the mountains where are we going

to the mountains where are we going

to the mountains where are we going Everest okay that sounds like a plan I’m

Everest okay that sounds like a plan I’m

Everest okay that sounds like a plan I’m excited to go back and try to reconcile

excited to go back and try to reconcile

excited to go back and try to reconcile all of this although I wasn’t really

all of this although I wasn’t really

all of this although I wasn’t really thinking that at the time but I knew I

thinking that at the time but I knew I

thinking that at the time but I knew I had to go back I knew I had to go back

had to go back I knew I had to go back

had to go back I knew I had to go back to the mountains and I know trust me I

to the mountains and I know trust me I

to the mountains and I know trust me I know

know

know it’s self-indulgent for you know me a

it’s self-indulgent for you know me a

it’s self-indulgent for you know me a white American male to go back to

white American male to go back to

white American male to go back to Everest to try to figure my doubt like

Everest to try to figure my doubt like

Everest to try to figure my doubt like come on but stick with me don’t walk out

come on but stick with me don’t walk out

come on but stick with me don’t walk out yet I went back with a guy named Adrian

yet I went back with a guy named Adrian

yet I went back with a guy named Adrian Ballinger and the goal was to try to

Ballinger and the goal was to try to

Ballinger and the goal was to try to climb Everest without oxygen I didn’t go

climb Everest without oxygen I didn’t go

climb Everest without oxygen I didn’t go as a photographer we were using as Alice

as a photographer we were using as Alice

as a photographer we were using as Alice mentioned a snapchat we were doing

mentioned a snapchat we were doing

mentioned a snapchat we were doing something called Everest no filter and

something called Everest no filter and

something called Everest no filter and we were bringing people along up Everest

we were bringing people along up Everest

we were bringing people along up Everest as we climbed it and we had classrooms

as we climbed it and we had classrooms

as we climbed it and we had classrooms checking in with us talking about you

checking in with us talking about you

checking in with us talking about you know physiology and altitude and

know physiology and altitude and

know physiology and altitude and geography it was a very very cool

geography it was a very very cool

geography it was a very very cool experience to watch it sort of grow

experience to watch it sort of grow

experience to watch it sort of grow organically we just wanted to take

organically we just wanted to take

organically we just wanted to take people along and show what what it was

people along and show what what it was

people along and show what what it was like to actually be on a real expedition

like to actually be on a real expedition

like to actually be on a real expedition so I took very few photos this is one

so I took very few photos this is one

so I took very few photos this is one that I actually one of the ones that I

that I actually one of the ones that I

that I actually one of the ones that I really loved and there aren’t that many

really loved and there aren’t that many

really loved and there aren’t that many in fact I’m only going to show you four

in fact I’m only going to show you four

in fact I’m only going to show you four this is the last one this is it twenty

this is the last one this is it twenty

this is the last one this is it twenty eight thousand nine hundred and fifty

eight thousand nine hundred and fifty

eight thousand nine hundred and fifty feet so just about

feet so just about

feet so just about hundred feet vertical feet below Everest

hundred feet vertical feet below Everest

hundred feet vertical feet below Everest summit on May 24th 2016 and Adrienne had

summit on May 24th 2016 and Adrienne had

summit on May 24th 2016 and Adrienne had turned around much earlier in the

turned around much earlier in the

turned around much earlier in the morning and I was alone I just passed

morning and I was alone I just passed

morning and I was alone I just passed these guys that’s right I passed people

these guys that’s right I passed people

these guys that’s right I passed people without oxygen that’s cool sounds I’m

without oxygen that’s cool sounds I’m

without oxygen that’s cool sounds I’m not arrogant what I just passed them and

not arrogant what I just passed them and

not arrogant what I just passed them and and I turned around and I and I looked

and I turned around and I and I looked

and I turned around and I and I looked back and I knew I was going to be on the

back and I knew I was going to be on the

back and I knew I was going to be on the summit alone which is very rare

summit alone which is very rare

summit alone which is very rare vanishingly rare for Everest these days

vanishingly rare for Everest these days

vanishingly rare for Everest these days I I knew I was going to be up there by

I I knew I was going to be up there by

I I knew I was going to be up there by myself and when I got there I cried for

myself and when I got there I cried for

myself and when I got there I cried for a second because I’m a crier and I stood

a second because I’m a crier and I stood

a second because I’m a crier and I stood up as tall as I could and I just reached

up as tall as I could and I just reached

up as tall as I could and I just reached up into space because that’s as close as

up into space because that’s as close as

up into space because that’s as close as I’m ever going to get I’m not going to

I’m ever going to get I’m not going to

I’m ever going to get I’m not going to go back and be an astronaut and at the

go back and be an astronaut and at the

go back and be an astronaut and at the time I thought you know maybe this is

time I thought you know maybe this is

time I thought you know maybe this is the punctuation maybe this is the end

the punctuation maybe this is the end

the punctuation maybe this is the end maybe this is the end of the darkness

maybe this is the end of the darkness

maybe this is the end of the darkness I’ve climbed my way out I was the

I’ve climbed my way out I was the

I’ve climbed my way out I was the Phoenix Rising I have now proven that I

Phoenix Rising I have now proven that I

Phoenix Rising I have now proven that I can overcome anything and and that is

can overcome anything and and that is

can overcome anything and and that is you know I’m I’m good done you know like

you know I’m I’m good done you know like

you know I’m I’m good done you know like put a stamp on it send it away and what

put a stamp on it send it away and what

put a stamp on it send it away and what actually happened and I didn’t know it

actually happened and I didn’t know it

actually happened and I didn’t know it at the time was that was the point where

at the time was that was the point where

at the time was that was the point where my biggest lesson was to come that I can

my biggest lesson was to come that I can

my biggest lesson was to come that I can run from everything and I’m good at it

run from everything and I’m good at it

run from everything and I’m good at it and we all are

and we all are

and we all are I can run as hard and as far and as fast

I can run as hard and as far and as fast

I can run as hard and as far and as fast from the things my demons that bother me

from the things my demons that bother me

from the things my demons that bother me that eat me inside I can go to the top

that eat me inside I can go to the top

that eat me inside I can go to the top of the world and they’re right there

of the world and they’re right there

of the world and they’re right there with me and that is a collective human

with me and that is a collective human

with me and that is a collective human experience we cannot run from our issues

experience we cannot run from our issues

experience we cannot run from our issues ever the point is to turn into them and

ever the point is to turn into them and

ever the point is to turn into them and face them that’s what we have to do you

face them that’s what we have to do you

face them that’s what we have to do you can go there and they’re still right

can go there and they’re still right

can go there and they’re still right there with you

there with you

there with you so you know my life has never been

so you know my life has never been

so you know my life has never been normal

normal

normal I started in these mountains and that’s

I started in these mountains and that’s

I started in these mountains and that’s what brought me up I’m not a

what brought me up I’m not a

what brought me up I’m not a particularly talented human but I’m

particularly talented human but I’m

particularly talented human but I’m willing to try and keep going

willing to try and keep going

willing to try and keep going it’s hard work it’s not about I take out

it’s hard work it’s not about I take out

it’s hard work it’s not about I take out a camera and I

a camera and I

a camera and I a perfect picture it doesn’t work that

a perfect picture it doesn’t work that

a perfect picture it doesn’t work that way Chris knows that better than anybody

way Chris knows that better than anybody

way Chris knows that better than anybody it is one of the hardest things that you

it is one of the hardest things that you

it is one of the hardest things that you can do I started with the mountains and

can do I started with the mountains and

can do I started with the mountains and the mountains brought me to adventure

the mountains brought me to adventure

the mountains brought me to adventure and adventure and exploration started to

and adventure and exploration started to

and adventure and exploration started to change the way I saw the world I didn’t

change the way I saw the world I didn’t

change the way I saw the world I didn’t care as much about this as I cared about

care as much about this as I cared about

care as much about this as I cared about this what’s happening to the planet so

this what’s happening to the planet so

this what’s happening to the planet so this exploration gave me a different

this exploration gave me a different

this exploration gave me a different lens through which to view it you know

lens through which to view it you know

lens through which to view it you know and what I’ve learned from this is that

and what I’ve learned from this is that

and what I’ve learned from this is that we’re looking for solutions humans are

we’re looking for solutions humans are

we’re looking for solutions humans are looking for solutions we want answers to

looking for solutions we want answers to

looking for solutions we want answers to everything

everything

everything how do we stop this how do we stop that

how do we stop this how do we stop that

how do we stop this how do we stop that what do we do what are the solutions

what do we do what are the solutions

what do we do what are the solutions solutions for climate change you know

solutions for climate change you know

solutions for climate change you know and and know that those solutions are

and and know that those solutions are

and and know that those solutions are different than the solutions for the

different than the solutions for the

different than the solutions for the global corrosion of culture they’re very

global corrosion of culture they’re very

global corrosion of culture they’re very very different how do we solve that and

very different how do we solve that and

very different how do we solve that and those solutions are different than the

those solutions are different than the

those solutions are different than the ones we need for conflicts how do we

ones we need for conflicts how do we

ones we need for conflicts how do we deal with that and of course those

deal with that and of course those

deal with that and of course those solutions are very different than those

solutions are very different than those

solutions are very different than those that we need to help those who are

that we need to help those who are

that we need to help those who are affected by conflict former child

affected by conflict former child

affected by conflict former child soldiers areas like Aleppo how do we

soldiers areas like Aleppo how do we

soldiers areas like Aleppo how do we deal with that what are the solutions

there’s a lot of questions facing our

there’s a lot of questions facing our world right now

world right now

world right now and there aren’t any real clear answers

one thing that I believe is that we are

one thing that I believe is that we are all tied together and by all tied

all tied together and by all tied

all tied together and by all tied together I’m not talking about a hippy

together I’m not talking about a hippy

together I’m not talking about a hippy oneness of the world I’m talking about

oneness of the world I’m talking about

oneness of the world I’m talking about physically everything relies on

physically everything relies on

physically everything relies on everything else it really does in our

everything else it really does in our

everything else it really does in our day-to-day lives and we need to pay more

day-to-day lives and we need to pay more

day-to-day lives and we need to pay more attention to that and how do we honor

attention to that and how do we honor

attention to that and how do we honor that bond because we will find solutions

that bond because we will find solutions

that bond because we will find solutions we are very very good at finding

we are very very good at finding

we are very very good at finding solutions X what humans do we have very

solutions X what humans do we have very

solutions X what humans do we have very big brains and we put band-aids on

big brains and we put band-aids on

big brains and we put band-aids on things you know as a generalist my goal

things you know as a generalist my goal

things you know as a generalist my goal with my photography is not to focus on

with my photography is not to focus on

with my photography is not to focus on one thing I don’t want to be great at

one thing I don’t want to be great at

one thing I don’t want to be great at one thing I want to tell multiple

one thing I want to tell multiple

one thing I want to tell multiple stories

stories

stories different voices and lenses I want to

different voices and lenses I want to

different voices and lenses I want to step back I want to ask the question not

step back I want to ask the question not

step back I want to ask the question not how do we solve the problems we have how

how do we solve the problems we have how

how do we solve the problems we have how do we stop creating the problems right

do we stop creating the problems right

do we stop creating the problems right what’s the answer to that why do I get

what’s the answer to that why do I get

what’s the answer to that why do I get up here and talk about divorce and PTSD

up here and talk about divorce and PTSD

up here and talk about divorce and PTSD and infidelity and adventure and and you

and infidelity and adventure and and you

and infidelity and adventure and and you know and and I confuse the whole topic I

know and and I confuse the whole topic I

know and and I confuse the whole topic I mean I’ve talked about alcoholism I’ve

mean I’ve talked about alcoholism I’ve

mean I’ve talked about alcoholism I’ve talked about sustainability you guys are

talked about sustainability you guys are

talked about sustainability you guys are like what is the through-line I mean I

like what is the through-line I mean I

like what is the through-line I mean I get it dude but what is the through-line

get it dude but what is the through-line

get it dude but what is the through-line where are you going with this the

where are you going with this the

where are you going with this the through line is this we are the stewards

through line is this we are the stewards

through line is this we are the stewards and every single choice we make has a

and every single choice we make has a

and every single choice we make has a consequence every single one and that is

consequence every single one and that is

consequence every single one and that is very important to remember I’m 35 years

very important to remember I’m 35 years

very important to remember I’m 35 years old I don’t have the answers I can tell

old I don’t have the answers I can tell

old I don’t have the answers I can tell you to ride bikes I can tell you to eat

you to ride bikes I can tell you to eat

you to ride bikes I can tell you to eat less meat I can tell you to take shorter

less meat I can tell you to take shorter

less meat I can tell you to take shorter showers I can tell you to not use

showers I can tell you to not use

showers I can tell you to not use plastic bags don’t use straws you know

plastic bags don’t use straws you know

plastic bags don’t use straws you know buy a Prius whatever you can do you guys

buy a Prius whatever you can do you guys

buy a Prius whatever you can do you guys know that we do need initiatives like

know that we do need initiatives like

know that we do need initiatives like pristine seas we do need initiatives

pristine seas we do need initiatives

pristine seas we do need initiatives like big cats we do need to focus that

like big cats we do need to focus that

like big cats we do need to focus that but those honestly are band-aids on

but those honestly are band-aids on

but those honestly are band-aids on existing wounds so what is the virus and

existing wounds so what is the virus and

existing wounds so what is the virus and how do we how do we address that and

how do we how do we address that and

how do we how do we address that and honestly honestly I think the answer is

honestly honestly I think the answer is

honestly honestly I think the answer is much much simpler than we’re making it

much much simpler than we’re making it

much much simpler than we’re making it but I’m not audacious enough to say that

but I’m not audacious enough to say that

but I’m not audacious enough to say that so I’m going to let somebody else say it

so I’m going to let somebody else say it

so I’m going to let somebody else say it in different words he’s he’s a little

in different words he’s he’s a little

in different words he’s he’s a little smarter than me not much you might have

smarter than me not much you might have

smarter than me not much you might have heard of him his name is Carl Sagan

heard of him his name is Carl Sagan

heard of him his name is Carl Sagan we’re about you you know anyway that

we’re about you you know anyway that

we’re about you you know anyway that little dot there if you haven’t seen

little dot there if you haven’t seen

little dot there if you haven’t seen this before this photograph is called

this before this photograph is called

this before this photograph is called the pale blue dot and that dot and that

the pale blue dot and that dot and that

the pale blue dot and that dot and that Sunbeam is us that’s earth that was

Sunbeam is us that’s earth that was

Sunbeam is us that’s earth that was taken from 3.7 billion miles away in

taken from 3.7 billion miles away in

taken from 3.7 billion miles away in February 14 1990 and this is what Carl

February 14 1990 and this is what Carl

February 14 1990 and this is what Carl my buddy Carl had say

my buddy Carl had say

my buddy Carl had say this look again at that dot that’s here

this look again at that dot that’s here

this look again at that dot that’s here that’s home that’s us on it everyone you

that’s home that’s us on it everyone you

that’s home that’s us on it everyone you love everyone you know everyone you’ve

love everyone you know everyone you’ve

love everyone you know everyone you’ve ever heard of every human being who ever

ever heard of every human being who ever

ever heard of every human being who ever was lived out their lives the aggregate

was lived out their lives the aggregate

was lived out their lives the aggregate of our joy and suffering thousands of

of our joy and suffering thousands of

of our joy and suffering thousands of confident religions ideologies and

confident religions ideologies and

confident religions ideologies and economic doctrines every hunter and

economic doctrines every hunter and

economic doctrines every hunter and forager every hero and coward every

forager every hero and coward every

forager every hero and coward every creator and destroyer of civilization

creator and destroyer of civilization

creator and destroyer of civilization every King and peasant every young

every King and peasant every young

every King and peasant every young couple in love every mother and father

couple in love every mother and father

couple in love every mother and father hopeful child inventor and Explorer

hopeful child inventor and Explorer

hopeful child inventor and Explorer every teacher of morals every corrupt

every teacher of morals every corrupt

every teacher of morals every corrupt politician every superstar every Supreme

politician every superstar every Supreme

politician every superstar every Supreme Leader every saint and sinner in the

Leader every saint and sinner in the

Leader every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there on a

history of our species lived there on a

history of our species lived there on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam the

mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam the

mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam the earth is a very small stage in a vast

earth is a very small stage in a vast

earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena think of the endless

cosmic arena think of the endless

cosmic arena think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of

cruelties visited by the inhabitants of

cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely

one corner of this pixel on the scarcely

one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some

distinguishable inhabitants of some

distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner how frequent their

other corner how frequent their

other corner how frequent their misunderstandings how eager they are to

misunderstandings how eager they are to

misunderstandings how eager they are to kill one another how fervent their

kill one another how fervent their

kill one another how fervent their hatreds think of the rivers of blood

hatreds think of the rivers of blood

hatreds think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and

spilled by all those generals and

spilled by all those generals and emperors so that in glory and triumph

emperors so that in glory and triumph

emperors so that in glory and triumph they could become the momentary masters

they could become the momentary masters

they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot our posturings

of a fraction of a dot our posturings

of a fraction of a dot our posturings our imagined self-importance the

our imagined self-importance the

our imagined self-importance the delusion that we have some privileged

delusion that we have some privileged

delusion that we have some privileged position in the universe are challenged

position in the universe are challenged

position in the universe are challenged by this point of pale light our planet

by this point of pale light our planet

by this point of pale light our planet is a lonely speck in the great

is a lonely speck in the great

is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark in our obscurity

enveloping cosmic dark in our obscurity

enveloping cosmic dark in our obscurity in all this vastness there is no hint

in all this vastness there is no hint

in all this vastness there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to

that help will come from elsewhere to

that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves the earth is the

save us from ourselves the earth is the

save us from ourselves the earth is the only world known so far to harbor life

only world known so far to harbor life

only world known so far to harbor life there is nowhere else at least in the

there is nowhere else at least in the

there is nowhere else at least in the near future to which our species could

near future to which our species could

near future to which our species could migrate

migrate

migrate visit yes settle not yet like it or not

visit yes settle not yet like it or not

visit yes settle not yet like it or not for the moment the earth is where we

for the moment the earth is where we

for the moment the earth is where we make our stand it has been said that

make our stand it has been said that

make our stand it has been said that astronomy is a humbling and

astronomy is a humbling and

astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience there is

character-building experience there is

character-building experience there is perhaps no better demonstration of the

perhaps no better demonstration of the

perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this

folly of human conceits than this

folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world to me it

distant image of our tiny world to me it

distant image of our tiny world to me it underscores our responsibility to deal

underscores our responsibility to deal

underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another

more kindly with one another

more kindly with one another and to preserve and cherish the pale

and to preserve and cherish the pale

and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot the only home we’ve ever known

blue dot the only home we’ve ever known

blue dot the only home we’ve ever known now think about that for a second

now think about that for a second

now think about that for a second Carl Sagan was pretty smart but he

Carl Sagan was pretty smart but he

Carl Sagan was pretty smart but he didn’t end with policy he didn’t end

didn’t end with policy he didn’t end

didn’t end with policy he didn’t end with carbon emissions he didn’t end with

with carbon emissions he didn’t end with

with carbon emissions he didn’t end with rainforests he didn’t end with any of

rainforests he didn’t end with any of

rainforests he didn’t end with any of that because those are the wounds that’s

that because those are the wounds that’s

that because those are the wounds that’s what’s happened he ended with kindness

what’s happened he ended with kindness

what’s happened he ended with kindness it’s the most simple thing because when

it’s the most simple thing because when

it’s the most simple thing because when we act kindly towards one another in

we act kindly towards one another in

we act kindly towards one another in this city especially right now we act

this city especially right now we act

this city especially right now we act kindly towards one another we hear each

kindly towards one another we hear each

kindly towards one another we hear each other we treat each other with respect

other we treat each other with respect

other we treat each other with respect we might not agree and when there are

we might not agree and when there are

we might not agree and when there are abuses we stand up for that but we treat

abuses we stand up for that but we treat

abuses we stand up for that but we treat each other with kindness and respect and

each other with kindness and respect and

each other with kindness and respect and the root of that dare I say it as a 35

the root of that dare I say it as a 35

the root of that dare I say it as a 35 year old man who’s done all sorts of

year old man who’s done all sorts of

year old man who’s done all sorts of horrible things the root of that is the

horrible things the root of that is the

horrible things the root of that is the one thing that makes us different as an

one thing that makes us different as an

one thing that makes us different as an animal it’s the single most important

animal it’s the single most important

animal it’s the single most important thing we do it’s unique to us and that

thing we do it’s unique to us and that

thing we do it’s unique to us and that is love that’s what we do and that in

is love that’s what we do and that in

is love that’s what we do and that in and of itself is where we start so

and of itself is where we start so

and of itself is where we start so without saying too much more I love you

without saying too much more I love you

without saying too much more I love you guys very much and thank you for sharing

guys very much and thank you for sharing

guys very much and thank you for sharing this with me

this with me

this with me [Applause]

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