there’s still the last frontier and I think there is work for generations of
think there is work for generations of
think there is work for generations of explorers I woke up I could fill a polar
explorers I woke up I could fill a polar
explorers I woke up I could fill a polar bear where’s mom attend we have never
bear where’s mom attend we have never
bear where’s mom attend we have never seen anything like this
really in 16 drugs we found 8 new
really in 16 drugs we found 8 new species of fish
we’re gonna hit each of them a chance
we’re gonna hit each of them a chance just to describe what they do in their
just to describe what they do in their
just to describe what they do in their own words and then we will begin to quiz
own words and then we will begin to quiz
own words and then we will begin to quiz them so we can learn more about how they
them so we can learn more about how they
them so we can learn more about how they do it said dish do I have to be first
do it said dish do I have to be first
do it said dish do I have to be first you have to be first all right being a
you have to be first all right being a
you have to be first all right being a wildlife filmmaker and photographer
wildlife filmmaker and photographer
wildlife filmmaker and photographer that’s all just a fancy title at the end
that’s all just a fancy title at the end
that’s all just a fancy title at the end of the day all I am really is a
of the day all I am really is a
of the day all I am really is a storyteller and I like to bring those
storyteller and I like to bring those
storyteller and I like to bring those stories to you and that’s one of the
stories to you and that’s one of the
stories to you and that’s one of the things that I do is follow a mission and
things that I do is follow a mission and
things that I do is follow a mission and that mission is conservation through
that mission is conservation through
that mission is conservation through education not just education it’s also
education not just education it’s also
education not just education it’s also about engagement and how do I engage you
about engagement and how do I engage you
about engagement and how do I engage you by telling you fascinating stories that
by telling you fascinating stories that
by telling you fascinating stories that capture your imagination by powerful
capture your imagination by powerful
capture your imagination by powerful imagery it’s not just about taking
imagery it’s not just about taking
imagery it’s not just about taking pretty pictures it’s also about going
pretty pictures it’s also about going
pretty pictures it’s also about going back there and sitting behind a computer
back there and sitting behind a computer
back there and sitting behind a computer for six months in compiling them into a
for six months in compiling them into a
for six months in compiling them into a book or something that makes tangible
book or something that makes tangible
book or something that makes tangible sense and these books have gone out to
sense and these books have gone out to
sense and these books have gone out to UNESCO I was part of the submission
UNESCO I was part of the submission
UNESCO I was part of the submission dosia that got a UNESCO to declare the
dosia that got a UNESCO to declare the
dosia that got a UNESCO to declare the Western gods of the world heritage site
Western gods of the world heritage site
Western gods of the world heritage site and one hat is a photographer and the
and one hat is a photographer and the
and one hat is a photographer and the other hat is that of a filmmaker so I
other hat is that of a filmmaker so I
other hat is that of a filmmaker so I also make documentaries a recent one for
also make documentaries a recent one for
also make documentaries a recent one for National Geographic was that on clouded
National Geographic was that on clouded
National Geographic was that on clouded leopards and I realized the visual image
leopards and I realized the visual image
leopards and I realized the visual image is so powerful that I’ve now had to
is so powerful that I’ve now had to
is so powerful that I’ve now had to combine it all and create a multimedia
combine it all and create a multimedia
combine it all and create a multimedia thing called a funny thing called an
thing called a funny thing called an
thing called a funny thing called an appt anyone heard of that yeah so that’s
appt anyone heard of that yeah so that’s
appt anyone heard of that yeah so that’s why I’m here to bring these stories to
why I’m here to bring these stories to
why I’m here to bring these stories to you so thank you all for being here next
you so thank you all for being here next
you so thank you all for being here next emerging explorers Bethany album who was
emerging explorers Bethany album who was
emerging explorers Bethany album who was a professor of planetary science at
a professor of planetary science at
a professor of planetary science at Caltech and also a research scientist
Caltech and also a research scientist
Caltech and also a research scientist the Jet Propulsion Laboratory and
the Jet Propulsion Laboratory and
the Jet Propulsion Laboratory and bringing a spec exciting information
bringing a spec exciting information
bringing a spec exciting information about one of our our favorite planet to
about one of our our favorite planet to
about one of our our favorite planet to Mars so Bethany yeah thank you boy so
Mars so Bethany yeah thank you boy so
Mars so Bethany yeah thank you boy so after sandesh is beautiful images of
after sandesh is beautiful images of
after sandesh is beautiful images of this world and the story of conservation
this world and the story of conservation
this world and the story of conservation I’m going to tell you about another
I’m going to tell you about another
I’m going to tell you about another world and the connections between Mars
world and the connections between Mars
world and the connections between Mars and our own earth so some of you may
and our own earth so some of you may
and our own earth so some of you may know Mars 4th planet out from the Sun
know Mars 4th planet out from the Sun
know Mars 4th planet out from the Sun today very thin atmosphere it’s cold
today very thin atmosphere it’s cold
today very thin atmosphere it’s cold it’s dry no liquid water on the surface
it’s dry no liquid water on the surface
it’s dry no liquid water on the surface and yet we have data images in this case
and yet we have data images in this case
and yet we have data images in this case a map of the elevation of Mars that
a map of the elevation of Mars that
a map of the elevation of Mars that shows there’s once abundant evidence for
shows there’s once abundant evidence for
shows there’s once abundant evidence for water so here what you’re doing you’re
water so here what you’re doing you’re
water so here what you’re doing you’re peering down into the northern lowlands
peering down into the northern lowlands
peering down into the northern lowlands of Mars and you see it’s a low people
of Mars and you see it’s a low people
of Mars and you see it’s a low people have thought oh well maybe there was an
have thought oh well maybe there was an
have thought oh well maybe there was an ocean there in the past you can
ocean there in the past you can
ocean there in the past you can certainly see rivers heading into that
certainly see rivers heading into that
certainly see rivers heading into that lowland draining down into that Center
lowland draining down into that Center
lowland draining down into that Center but none of that is here today and so
but none of that is here today and so
but none of that is here today and so the question is did Mars once look like
the question is did Mars once look like
the question is did Mars once look like the image on the Left covered in water
the image on the Left covered in water
the image on the Left covered in water presumably a place that could be an
presumably a place that could be an
presumably a place that could be an abode teeming with life much like our
abode teeming with life much like our
abode teeming with life much like our own planet a place where there could be
own planet a place where there could be
own planet a place where there could be habitats why did it change that’s the
habitats why did it change that’s the
habitats why did it change that’s the key question that really that really
key question that really that really
key question that really that really drives my work as a planetary geologist
drives my work as a planetary geologist
drives my work as a planetary geologist we then in some cases are able to go to
we then in some cases are able to go to
we then in some cases are able to go to the ground and how many of you saw the
the ground and how many of you saw the
the ground and how many of you saw the amazing landings of the Curiosity rover
amazing landings of the Curiosity rover
amazing landings of the Curiosity rover in August are you watching that as it
in August are you watching that as it
in August are you watching that as it happened yeah yeah pretty amazing right
happened yeah yeah pretty amazing right
happened yeah yeah pretty amazing right great engineers at JPL landing on
great engineers at JPL landing on
great engineers at JPL landing on another planet what we’ve been exploring
another planet what we’ve been exploring
another planet what we’ve been exploring with curiosity some of some of these
with curiosity some of some of these
with curiosity some of some of these types of environments looking for life
types of environments looking for life
types of environments looking for life hunting for habitats that might have
hunting for habitats that might have
hunting for habitats that might have existed early in the history of the
existed early in the history of the
existed early in the history of the planet trying to answer that question
planet trying to answer that question
planet trying to answer that question why did Mars change but doing it not as
why did Mars change but doing it not as
why did Mars change but doing it not as geologists on the surface but through
geologists on the surface but through
geologists on the surface but through our proxies the robots that we that we
our proxies the robots that we that we
our proxies the robots that we that we send for us we’re looking to understand
send for us we’re looking to understand
send for us we’re looking to understand what happened to Mars what happened to
what happened to Mars what happened to
what happened to Mars what happened to those potential water rich habitats and
those potential water rich habitats and
those potential water rich habitats and why did it all change and can we use
why did it all change and can we use
why did it all change and can we use those lessons to understand our own
those lessons to understand our own
those lessons to understand our own planet a little bit more so that’s what
planet a little bit more so that’s what
planet a little bit more so that’s what drives me to explore thanks
next is our new emerging explorer Jason
next is our new emerging explorer Jason de Leon who is a archaeologists
de Leon who is a archaeologists
de Leon who is a archaeologists anthropologist but instead of digging
anthropologist but instead of digging
anthropologist but instead of digging way into the past he’s actually digging
way into the past he’s actually digging
way into the past he’s actually digging into the present as he’s studying a
into the present as he’s studying a
into the present as he’s studying a undocumented migration and often you
undocumented migration and often you
undocumented migration and often you look through what people leave behind to
look through what people leave behind to
look through what people leave behind to understand how they lived what they did
understand how they lived what they did
understand how they lived what they did so he’s finding what they leave behind
so he’s finding what they leave behind
so he’s finding what they leave behind he said professor at University of
he said professor at University of
he said professor at University of Michigan explain more the problem with
Michigan explain more the problem with
Michigan explain more the problem with undocumented migration is polarizing as
undocumented migration is polarizing as
undocumented migration is polarizing as it is most of us know very little about
it is most of us know very little about
it is most of us know very little about what it actually looks like and as an
what it actually looks like and as an
what it actually looks like and as an anthropologist a social scientist and
anthropologist a social scientist and
anthropologist a social scientist and archaeologist my job is to put names
archaeologist my job is to put names
archaeologist my job is to put names faces and stories to the many statistics
faces and stories to the many statistics
faces and stories to the many statistics that are thrown around by different
that are thrown around by different
that are thrown around by different media people if you don’t know just
media people if you don’t know just
media people if you don’t know just quickly the bulk of undocumented
quickly the bulk of undocumented
quickly the bulk of undocumented migration board illegal border crossings
migration board illegal border crossings
migration board illegal border crossings occur in southern Arizona in what’s
occur in southern Arizona in what’s
occur in southern Arizona in what’s called the Tucson Sector by Border
called the Tucson Sector by Border
called the Tucson Sector by Border Patrol we use a policy currently called
Patrol we use a policy currently called
Patrol we use a policy currently called prevention through deterrence it’s
prevention through deterrence it’s
prevention through deterrence it’s virtually impossible to cross in any
virtually impossible to cross in any
virtually impossible to cross in any urban area yet the back door in southern
urban area yet the back door in southern
urban area yet the back door in southern Arizona has been left open essentially
Arizona has been left open essentially
Arizona has been left open essentially by by federal law enforcement agencies
by by federal law enforcement agencies
by by federal law enforcement agencies because we use what’s called the
because we use what’s called the
because we use what’s called the prevention that insurance to use the
prevention that insurance to use the
prevention that insurance to use the desert itself the Sonora Desert is
desert itself the Sonora Desert is
desert itself the Sonora Desert is rugged inhospitable very difficult
rugged inhospitable very difficult
rugged inhospitable very difficult terrain and people are having to walk
terrain and people are having to walk
terrain and people are having to walk upwards of 60 70 and 80 miles across
upwards of 60 70 and 80 miles across
upwards of 60 70 and 80 miles across this environment to get into the United
this environment to get into the United
this environment to get into the United States and where the thinking is that
States and where the thinking is that
States and where the thinking is that the desert itself will become a better
the desert itself will become a better
the desert itself will become a better form of deterrence than Border Patrol
form of deterrence than Border Patrol
form of deterrence than Border Patrol just some quick statistics on who’s
just some quick statistics on who’s
just some quick statistics on who’s coming through this desert or who has
coming through this desert or who has
coming through this desert or who has come through this desert we know that
come through this desert we know that
come through this desert we know that about 4.5 million people have been
about 4.5 million people have been
about 4.5 million people have been caught in southern Arizona since 2000
caught in southern Arizona since 2000
caught in southern Arizona since 2000 that’s only caught there’s probably you
that’s only caught there’s probably you
that’s only caught there’s probably you can probably push that to about 7
can probably push that to about 7
can probably push that to about 7 million coming through southern Arizona
million coming through southern Arizona
million coming through southern Arizona and more importantly about 5,600 bodies
and more importantly about 5,600 bodies
and more importantly about 5,600 bodies have been recovered along the border
have been recovered along the border
have been recovered along the border since 1998 those numbers probably
since 1998 those numbers probably
since 1998 those numbers probably grossly underestimate who’s actually
grossly underestimate who’s actually
grossly underestimate who’s actually died during this process and I’ll show
died during this process and I’ll show
died during this process and I’ll show you why I think that what I’ve tried to
you why I think that what I’ve tried to
you why I think that what I’ve tried to do then is say it’s to say okay people
do then is say it’s to say okay people
do then is say it’s to say okay people are coming through they’ve got stories
are coming through they’ve got stories
are coming through they’ve got stories are interesting how can anthropology
are interesting how can anthropology
are interesting how can anthropology help us put names and faces to these
help us put names and faces to these
help us put names and faces to these migrants were coming who are coming
migrants were coming who are coming
migrants were coming who are coming through the desert and why is it
through the desert and why is it
through the desert and why is it important as an anthropologist I use a
important as an anthropologist I use a
important as an anthropologist I use a bunch of different tools the first one
bunch of different tools the first one
bunch of different tools the first one is ethnography so I hang out with
is ethnography so I hang out with
is ethnography so I hang out with migrants in the in northern Mexico I
migrants in the in northern Mexico I
migrants in the in northern Mexico I talked to them as they’re preparing to
talked to them as they’re preparing to
talked to them as they’re preparing to cross I give them cameras have them
cross I give them cameras have them
cross I give them cameras have them photographed border cross
photographed border cross
photographed border cross for anonymous publication and then I
for anonymous publication and then I
for anonymous publication and then I interview them post deportation to see
interview them post deportation to see
interview them post deportation to see what exactly happened in the desert I
what exactly happened in the desert I
what exactly happened in the desert I also look at what how they prepare what
also look at what how they prepare what
also look at what how they prepare what do migrants by in northern Mexico to get
do migrants by in northern Mexico to get
do migrants by in northern Mexico to get across the desert there’s specialized
across the desert there’s specialized
across the desert there’s specialized vendors who sell things to migrants to
vendors who sell things to migrants to
vendors who sell things to migrants to survive first aid equipment specialized
survive first aid equipment specialized
survive first aid equipment specialized water bottles backpacks camouflage
water bottles backpacks camouflage
water bottles backpacks camouflage clothing migrants then oftentimes leave
clothing migrants then oftentimes leave
clothing migrants then oftentimes leave this stuff behind while in route this
this stuff behind while in route this
this stuff behind while in route this stuff then ends up accumulating over
stuff then ends up accumulating over
stuff then ends up accumulating over time in some of these giant arkla what I
time in some of these giant arkla what I
time in some of these giant arkla what I would consider to be archaeological
would consider to be archaeological
would consider to be archaeological sites and these are rich repositories of
sites and these are rich repositories of
sites and these are rich repositories of information about this process an
information about this process an
information about this process an archaeology can help us understand the
archaeology can help us understand the
archaeology can help us understand the material elements of this but then also
material elements of this but then also
material elements of this but then also more importantly I’m interested in what
more importantly I’m interested in what
more importantly I’m interested in what happens to those that go missing and
happens to those that go missing and
happens to those that go missing and those that died hundreds of people die
those that died hundreds of people die
those that died hundreds of people die every single year and we know that
every single year and we know that
every single year and we know that bodies disappear quickly in the desert
bodies disappear quickly in the desert
bodies disappear quickly in the desert and what we’ve tried to do is use
and what we’ve tried to do is use
and what we’ve tried to do is use forensic tech anomic experiments pigs
forensic tech anomic experiments pigs
forensic tech anomic experiments pigs are a very good proxy that forensic
are a very good proxy that forensic
are a very good proxy that forensic scientists use to understand how human
scientists use to understand how human
scientists use to understand how human bodies decomposed here’s a pig that has
bodies decomposed here’s a pig that has
bodies decomposed here’s a pig that has been put out into the desert a carcass
been put out into the desert a carcass
been put out into the desert a carcass it’s been dressed and over the course of
it’s been dressed and over the course of
it’s been dressed and over the course of just a few days vultures get involved
just a few days vultures get involved
just a few days vultures get involved and you’ll see here once they start
and you’ll see here once they start
and you’ll see here once they start consuming a body it takes about 24 hours
consuming a body it takes about 24 hours
consuming a body it takes about 24 hours for the body to be completely
for the body to be completely
for the body to be completely disarticulated consumed and widely
disarticulated consumed and widely
disarticulated consumed and widely spread and so using all these different
spread and so using all these different
spread and so using all these different tools have been helpful to understand
tools have been helpful to understand
tools have been helpful to understand this very hidden clandestine process
and if you’ve been a reader of National
and if you’ve been a reader of National Geographic magazine during the last 15
Geographic magazine during the last 15
Geographic magazine during the last 15 years then you have probably seen the
years then you have probably seen the
years then you have probably seen the work of Joel Satori who’s done many
work of Joel Satori who’s done many
work of Joel Satori who’s done many important articles for us taking the
important articles for us taking the
important articles for us taking the pictures for them but he’s also an
pictures for them but he’s also an
pictures for them but he’s also an articulate voice for conservation Joel
articulate voice for conservation Joel
articulate voice for conservation Joel thanks Boyd well I’ve been with
thanks Boyd well I’ve been with
thanks Boyd well I’ve been with Geographic now for 22 or 23 years as a
Geographic now for 22 or 23 years as a
Geographic now for 22 or 23 years as a contributing photographer and I notice
contributing photographer and I notice
contributing photographer and I notice that these pictures are nice they’re all
that these pictures are nice they’re all
that these pictures are nice they’re all fine and well but maybe we need to do
fine and well but maybe we need to do
fine and well but maybe we need to do something more maybe I needed to do
something more maybe I needed to do
something more maybe I needed to do something more and that is look these
something more and that is look these
something more and that is look these animals in the eye that I go out
animals in the eye that I go out
animals in the eye that I go out photograph I do mainly conservation work
photograph I do mainly conservation work
photograph I do mainly conservation work instead of just getting him before he’s
instead of just getting him before he’s
instead of just getting him before he’s consumed in the bush meat market in
consumed in the bush meat market in
consumed in the bush meat market in Equatorial Guinea we bring black velvet
Equatorial Guinea we bring black velvet
Equatorial Guinea we bring black velvet along and make him immortal so I started
along and make him immortal so I started
along and make him immortal so I started a project eight years ago called the
a project eight years ago called the
a project eight years ago called the photo arc it’s my attempt to document
photo arc it’s my attempt to document
photo arc it’s my attempt to document whatever I can while we have it
whatever I can while we have it
whatever I can while we have it amphibians are of great concern to me
amphibians are of great concern to me
amphibians are of great concern to me they’re going extinct around the globe
they’re going extinct around the globe
they’re going extinct around the globe because of climate change habitat loss
because of climate change habitat loss
because of climate change habitat loss pollution and a disease called Kittredge
pollution and a disease called Kittredge
pollution and a disease called Kittredge fungus and they are amazing amazing
fungus and they are amazing amazing
fungus and they are amazing amazing creatures so I’m very nervous when I see
creatures so I’m very nervous when I see
creatures so I’m very nervous when I see something like that at a lab in Quito
something like that at a lab in Quito
something like that at a lab in Quito Ecuador down to eight down to 64 to now
Ecuador down to eight down to 64 to now
Ecuador down to eight down to 64 to now you’re looking at the very last of this
you’re looking at the very last of this
you’re looking at the very last of this animal this species is down to this one
animal this species is down to this one
animal this species is down to this one individual it’s a rabs fringe limb tree
individual it’s a rabs fringe limb tree
individual it’s a rabs fringe limb tree frog and as I’m photographing and I’m
frog and as I’m photographing and I’m
frog and as I’m photographing and I’m thinking okay I’m going to take its
thinking okay I’m going to take its
thinking okay I’m going to take its story back to folks like you and try to
story back to folks like you and try to
story back to folks like you and try to convince you that this is a tragedy of
convince you that this is a tragedy of
convince you that this is a tragedy of epic proportions to lose even one and
epic proportions to lose even one and
epic proportions to lose even one and yet we stand to lose half of all species
yet we stand to lose half of all species
yet we stand to lose half of all species we share the planet with by the turn of
we share the planet with by the turn of
we share the planet with by the turn of the next century by 2100 half of all
the next century by 2100 half of all
the next century by 2100 half of all species this rabbit’s already gone
species this rabbit’s already gone
species this rabbit’s already gone seventy five to eighty percent of our
seventy five to eighty percent of our
seventy five to eighty percent of our muscles fauna now is in serious danger
muscles fauna now is in serious danger
muscles fauna now is in serious danger of extinction why should you care about
of extinction why should you care about
of extinction why should you care about clams they don’t even have eyes well
clams they don’t even have eyes well
clams they don’t even have eyes well because they’re telling us they’re
because they’re telling us they’re
because they’re telling us they’re screaming at us our water is so filthy
screaming at us our water is so filthy
screaming at us our water is so filthy and so polluted now we can’t live in it
and so polluted now we can’t live in it
and so polluted now we can’t live in it anymore any of you drink water okay so
anymore any of you drink water okay so
anymore any of you drink water okay so so what do I need to do to get the
so what do I need to do to get the
so what do I need to do to get the public engaged in something more then
public engaged in something more then
public engaged in something more then what’s the price of the pump
what’s the price of the pump
what’s the price of the pump on TV whatever I have to do I will do it
on TV whatever I have to do I will do it
on TV whatever I have to do I will do it if it means taking pictures of things
if it means taking pictures of things
if it means taking pictures of things that look like us they’re
that look like us they’re
that look like us they’re anthropomorphic they’re weird they look
anthropomorphic they’re weird they look
anthropomorphic they’re weird they look like they’re from another planet they’re
like they’re from another planet they’re
like they’re from another planet they’re colorful their charismatic whatever it
colorful their charismatic whatever it
colorful their charismatic whatever it takes that’s the goal of the photo arc
takes that’s the goal of the photo arc
takes that’s the goal of the photo arc to get the public engaged first to learn
to get the public engaged first to learn
to get the public engaged first to learn about these things after all we can’t
about these things after all we can’t
about these things after all we can’t save something if we don’t know it
save something if we don’t know it
save something if we don’t know it exists to get them engaged and then to
exists to get them engaged and then to
exists to get them engaged and then to be moved to act to save these things the
be moved to act to save these things the
be moved to act to save these things the beautiful thing is most of what you’re
beautiful thing is most of what you’re
beautiful thing is most of what you’re seeing here can be saved we’ve done it
seeing here can be saved we’ve done it
seeing here can be saved we’ve done it before but it takes recognition and it
before but it takes recognition and it
before but it takes recognition and it takes compassion and it takes scaring
takes compassion and it takes scaring
takes compassion and it takes scaring and we basically need to make this fun
and we basically need to make this fun
and we basically need to make this fun and engaging every bit as fun as playing
and engaging every bit as fun as playing
and engaging every bit as fun as playing a video game in a way but it’s a video
a video game in a way but it’s a video
a video game in a way but it’s a video game with very dire consequences after
game with very dire consequences after
game with very dire consequences after all it’s falling to think that you can
all it’s falling to think that you can
all it’s falling to think that you can do the rest of creation to extinction
do the rest of creation to extinction
do the rest of creation to extinction and not have it come back to bite us
and not have it come back to bite us
and not have it come back to bite us very hard isn’t it we have done this
very hard isn’t it we have done this
very hard isn’t it we have done this before we have saved species when we
before we have saved species when we
before we have saved species when we caught it in when we caught them in time
caught it in when we caught them in time
caught it in when we caught them in time we have safe species like the giant
we have safe species like the giant
we have safe species like the giant panda we’ve saved species like the
panda we’ve saved species like the
panda we’ve saved species like the Mexican gray wolf we’ve saved species
Mexican gray wolf we’ve saved species
Mexican gray wolf we’ve saved species like the California condor and the
like the California condor and the
like the California condor and the black-footed ferret and the whooping
black-footed ferret and the whooping
black-footed ferret and the whooping crane we can do it we certainly can the
crane we can do it we certainly can the
crane we can do it we certainly can the goal is to get all six thousand species
goal is to get all six thousand species
goal is to get all six thousand species in the world zoos and aquariums I’m
in the world zoos and aquariums I’m
in the world zoos and aquariums I’m almost halfway there now after eight
almost halfway there now after eight
almost halfway there now after eight years at about twenty eight hundred and
years at about twenty eight hundred and
years at about twenty eight hundred and fifty five species at who’s counting
alright so that’s what you’re trying to
alright so that’s what you’re trying to do to make it look different of these
do to make it look different of these
do to make it look different of these animals that are in captivity to tell
animals that are in captivity to tell
animals that are in captivity to tell this important story and it’s just got
this important story and it’s just got
this important story and it’s just got to be tough to know you took this
to be tough to know you took this
to be tough to know you took this picture of one of those animals and two
picture of one of those animals and two
picture of one of those animals and two months later you get a call that one’s
months later you get a call that one’s
months later you get a call that one’s gone and that was the last one it stinks
gone and that was the last one it stinks
gone and that was the last one it stinks and it’s tragic and I don’t ever want it
and it’s tragic and I don’t ever want it
and it’s tragic and I don’t ever want it to happen again and that’s why and it
to happen again and that’s why and it
to happen again and that’s why and it has happened I’ll sure several times
has happened I’ll sure several times
has happened I’ll sure several times yeah a couple of things you stop they’re
yeah a couple of things you stop they’re
yeah a couple of things you stop they’re gone now but the goal is to get people
gone now but the goal is to get people
gone now but the goal is to get people find people to care I mean it doesn’t
find people to care I mean it doesn’t
find people to care I mean it doesn’t take that many people to change the
take that many people to change the
take that many people to change the world it really doesn’t I mean and
world it really doesn’t I mean and
world it really doesn’t I mean and there’s never been a better time to save
there’s never been a better time to save
there’s never been a better time to save species this is the time but if you want
species this is the time but if you want
species this is the time but if you want to individually save a species you can
to individually save a species you can
to individually save a species you can do it now there’s plenty of them need
do it now there’s plenty of them need
do it now there’s plenty of them need your help centers you’ve got a different
your help centers you’ve got a different
your help centers you’ve got a different problem because you’re trying to you
problem because you’re trying to you
problem because you’re trying to you don’t have to get them in front of a
don’t have to get them in front of a
don’t have to get them in front of a black and white background you just have
black and white background you just have
black and white background you just have to find them I want to show people this
to find them I want to show people this
to find them I want to show people this because when i first met you just finish
because when i first met you just finish
because when i first met you just finish this film on
this film on
this film on Tigers in the park hazaragi and you got
Tigers in the park hazaragi and you got
Tigers in the park hazaragi and you got these incredible shots because they’re
these incredible shots because they’re
these incredible shots because they’re feeding on a rhino well we’re luckily
feeding on a rhino well we’re luckily
feeding on a rhino well we’re luckily for this I wasn’t there that’s the
for this I wasn’t there that’s the
for this I wasn’t there that’s the beauty of camera trap technology right
beauty of camera trap technology right
beauty of camera trap technology right you set up your camera’s you think about
you set up your camera’s you think about
you set up your camera’s you think about where the tiger is going to come and and
where the tiger is going to come and and
where the tiger is going to come and and tigers typically feed from the rear of
tigers typically feed from the rear of
tigers typically feed from the rear of the animal and so you set it up in such
the animal and so you set it up in such
the animal and so you set it up in such a way that you get the image that you
a way that you get the image that you
a way that you get the image that you want that you pre conceived in your mind
want that you pre conceived in your mind
want that you pre conceived in your mind my camera trap was doing the job at
my camera trap was doing the job at
my camera trap was doing the job at night but I wanted to actually film them
night but I wanted to actually film them
night but I wanted to actually film them in the daytime and it took six days of
in the daytime and it took six days of
in the daytime and it took six days of waiting from five in the morning till
waiting from five in the morning till
waiting from five in the morning till six in the night every single day until
six in the night every single day until
six in the night every single day until the seventh day I had three Tigers show
the seventh day I had three Tigers show
the seventh day I had three Tigers show up and feed on this Rhino carcass that
up and feed on this Rhino carcass that
up and feed on this Rhino carcass that was the most amazing day in my life now
was the most amazing day in my life now
was the most amazing day in my life now everybody’s trying to bring back
everybody’s trying to bring back
everybody’s trying to bring back information and you think you’ve got a
information and you think you’ve got a
information and you think you’ve got a eager public I want to find out about
eager public I want to find out about
eager public I want to find out about these last species or I want to find out
these last species or I want to find out
these last species or I want to find out about Tigers I want to find out about
about Tigers I want to find out about
about Tigers I want to find out about behavior I want to know what Mars is
behavior I want to know what Mars is
behavior I want to know what Mars is made of you’ve got a different problem
made of you’ve got a different problem
made of you’ve got a different problem Jason let’s pull up slide number two so
Jason let’s pull up slide number two so
Jason let’s pull up slide number two so you have people taking pictures of what
you have people taking pictures of what
you have people taking pictures of what they’re doing it’s giving us information
they’re doing it’s giving us information
they’re doing it’s giving us information and i would think there’s a huge part of
and i would think there’s a huge part of
and i would think there’s a huge part of the population says you know we kind of
the population says you know we kind of
the population says you know we kind of got our minds made up on undocumented
got our minds made up on undocumented
got our minds made up on undocumented workers and if you’re bringing the
workers and if you’re bringing the
workers and if you’re bringing the information i really don’t want any
information i really don’t want any
information i really don’t want any facts to weaken my position so it’s not
facts to weaken my position so it’s not
facts to weaken my position so it’s not like they’re eager to see what you’re
like they’re eager to see what you’re
like they’re eager to see what you’re showing them for me it’s an
showing them for me it’s an
showing them for me it’s an uncomfortable research project and i
uncomfortable research project and i
uncomfortable research project and i think that’s it’s good i would rather be
think that’s it’s good i would rather be
think that’s it’s good i would rather be uncomfortable and have more and have
uncomfortable and have more and have
uncomfortable and have more and have sound systematically collected data
sound systematically collected data
sound systematically collected data about a process than to just have it be
about a process than to just have it be
about a process than to just have it be completely mysterious do you worry that
completely mysterious do you worry that
completely mysterious do you worry that when you show pictures of the guy even
when you show pictures of the guy even
when you show pictures of the guy even you know you’re not identifying who
you know you’re not identifying who
you know you’re not identifying who these people are they’re going over this
these people are they’re going over this
these people are they’re going over this rock this particular incline there’s
rock this particular incline there’s
rock this particular incline there’s somebody to say alright that’s a route
somebody to say alright that’s a route
somebody to say alright that’s a route they’re taking let’s go target that yeah
they’re taking let’s go target that yeah
they’re taking let’s go target that yeah we’ve we’ve seen over the last 15 years
we’ve we’ve seen over the last 15 years
we’ve we’ve seen over the last 15 years that the billions of dollars we’ve
that the billions of dollars we’ve
that the billions of dollars we’ve thrown at border enforcement
thrown at border enforcement
thrown at border enforcement I don’t hopefully nobody works at for
I don’t hopefully nobody works at for
I don’t hopefully nobody works at for any of these contractors but we’ve seen
any of these contractors but we’ve seen
any of these contractors but we’ve seen it that billions of dollars of money
it that billions of dollars of money
it that billions of dollars of money spent to try to secure this border it’s
spent to try to secure this border it’s
spent to try to secure this border it’s not enough money to defeat the human
not enough money to defeat the human
not enough money to defeat the human spirit and so for me showing these
spirit and so for me showing these
spirit and so for me showing these pictures is basically you know they’re
pictures is basically you know they’re
pictures is basically you know they’re probably drone planes you know somewhere
probably drone planes you know somewhere
probably drone planes you know somewhere in the background and there and they’re
in the background and there and they’re
in the background and there and they’re just not effective at keeping people out
just not effective at keeping people out
just not effective at keeping people out we know that some statistics say that
we know that some statistics say that
we know that some statistics say that over ninety percent of people who
over ninety percent of people who
over ninety percent of people who attempt a border crossing or successful
attempt a border crossing or successful
attempt a border crossing or successful it may take them nine times to do it but
it may take them nine times to do it but
it may take them nine times to do it but eventually they’re going to get through
eventually they’re going to get through
eventually they’re going to get through jewel not only takes pictures he does
jewel not only takes pictures he does
jewel not only takes pictures he does great descriptions of what’s involved in
great descriptions of what’s involved in
great descriptions of what’s involved in getting those pictures and I read if
getting those pictures and I read if
getting those pictures and I read if you’re a writer you want the opening
you’re a writer you want the opening
you’re a writer you want the opening line to just grab people and he wrote
line to just grab people and he wrote
line to just grab people and he wrote one of the best opening lines I couldn’t
one of the best opening lines I couldn’t
one of the best opening lines I couldn’t I couldn’t wait to rush through the
I couldn’t wait to rush through the
I couldn’t wait to rush through the whole article when I read he said it
whole article when I read he said it
whole article when I read he said it gets kind of depressing wondering if
gets kind of depressing wondering if
gets kind of depressing wondering if you’ll be dead by next weekend Joel yes
you’ll be dead by next weekend Joel yes
you’ll be dead by next weekend Joel yes what were you talking about I was
what were you talking about I was
what were you talking about I was talking about I was in a bat cave in
talking about I was in a bat cave in
talking about I was in a bat cave in Uganda and I got was wearing my my
Uganda and I got was wearing my my
Uganda and I got was wearing my my filter mask from home depot and a pair
filter mask from home depot and a pair
filter mask from home depot and a pair of reading glasses what could pass
of reading glasses what could pass
of reading glasses what could pass possibly go wrong I took off my glasses
possibly go wrong I took off my glasses
possibly go wrong I took off my glasses when I was hiking out of the cave and I
when I was hiking out of the cave and I
when I was hiking out of the cave and I looked up and the whole bat cave emptied
looked up and the whole bat cave emptied
looked up and the whole bat cave emptied out it was dusk and I looked up like and
out it was dusk and I looked up like and
out it was dusk and I looked up like and of course the bats are all pooping when
of course the bats are all pooping when
of course the bats are all pooping when they leave the cave I got a big hot
they leave the cave I got a big hot
they leave the cave I got a big hot blonde Oh splash right my left eye and
blonde Oh splash right my left eye and
blonde Oh splash right my left eye and and I called the CDC Centers for Disease
and I called the CDC Centers for Disease
and I called the CDC Centers for Disease Control they had an operative there and
Control they had an operative there and
Control they had an operative there and he said you really shouldn’t have gone
he said you really shouldn’t have gone
he said you really shouldn’t have gone in there I said well why not I remember
in there I said well why not I remember
in there I said well why not I remember I was really hungry when I called the
I was really hungry when I called the
I was really hungry when I called the guy but I better check he says well
guy but I better check he says well
guy but I better check he says well that’s a wet contact kind of like a bike
that’s a wet contact kind of like a bike
that’s a wet contact kind of like a bike like a bite and Marburg virus circulates
like a bite and Marburg virus circulates
like a bite and Marburg virus circulates in the faith and I said what’s the
in the faith and I said what’s the
in the faith and I said what’s the Marburg virus he said well it’s it’s
Marburg virus he said well it’s it’s
Marburg virus he said well it’s it’s like Ebola but it kills you quicker and
like Ebola but it kills you quicker and
like Ebola but it kills you quicker and you don’t bleed quite as much so you got
you don’t bleed quite as much so you got
you don’t bleed quite as much so you got that going for you
that going for you
that going for you but I did not get it here I am how are
but I did not get it here I am how are
but I did not get it here I am how are the bat pictures they were really good
the bat pictures they were really good
the bat pictures they were really good wait we had the editor magazine did he
wait we had the editor magazine did he
wait we had the editor magazine did he put the pictures in the mad cuz you know
put the pictures in the mad cuz you know
put the pictures in the mad cuz you know these guys take twenty thirty thousand
these guys take twenty thirty thousand
these guys take twenty thirty thousand picture maybe ten get in yeah they
picture maybe ten get in yeah they
picture maybe ten get in yeah they weren’t that good Chris didn’t pick any
weren’t that good Chris didn’t pick any
weren’t that good Chris didn’t pick any for the magazine way to go Chris Chris
for the magazine way to go Chris Chris
for the magazine way to go Chris Chris would you have published them if he had
would you have published them if he had
would you have published them if he had gotten the virus yes come on no no it’s
gotten the virus yes come on no no it’s
gotten the virus yes come on no no it’s a no from Chris I’ve been good India a
a no from Chris I’ve been good India a
a no from Chris I’ve been good India a little bit and I know that sometimes
little bit and I know that sometimes
little bit and I know that sometimes soldiers that were going through jungle
soldiers that were going through jungle
soldiers that were going through jungle areas where Tigers were they actually
areas where Tigers were they actually
areas where Tigers were they actually had masks a face that they would put on
had masks a face that they would put on
had masks a face that they would put on the back of their head because Tigers
the back of their head because Tigers
the back of their head because Tigers are known to come around to the back
are known to come around to the back
are known to come around to the back side to attack and they see the face and
side to attack and they see the face and
side to attack and they see the face and they felt that would give them
they felt that would give them
they felt that would give them protection if the Tigers looking at him
protection if the Tigers looking at him
protection if the Tigers looking at him they won’t come up so you’re so focused
they won’t come up so you’re so focused
they won’t come up so you’re so focused on that carcass and now we know there’s
on that carcass and now we know there’s
on that carcass and now we know there’s more than one tiger out there yeah and I
more than one tiger out there yeah and I
more than one tiger out there yeah and I think one of the biggest misconceptions
think one of the biggest misconceptions
think one of the biggest misconceptions that I’d like to address is that animals
that I’d like to address is that animals
that I’d like to address is that animals are not out there to get you I mean I
are not out there to get you I mean I
are not out there to get you I mean I mean I make television alright I make
mean I make television alright I make
mean I make television alright I make documentaries but that’s not the message
documentaries but that’s not the message
documentaries but that’s not the message I try to bring across unlike some
I try to bring across unlike some
I try to bring across unlike some documentaries that you might watch on TV
documentaries that you might watch on TV
documentaries that you might watch on TV that scares you but some of the things
that scares you but some of the things
that scares you but some of the things and one guy was asked this question
and one guy was asked this question
and one guy was asked this question earlier today what was your most
earlier today what was your most
earlier today what was your most dangerous incident and it was something
dangerous incident and it was something
dangerous incident and it was something similar to joels it was a mosquito that
similar to joels it was a mosquito that
similar to joels it was a mosquito that got me cerebral malaria and I was down
got me cerebral malaria and I was down
got me cerebral malaria and I was down knocked out you know eight hours away
knocked out you know eight hours away
knocked out you know eight hours away from the city now that’s the kind of
from the city now that’s the kind of
from the city now that’s the kind of stuff that we get you the things you’re
stuff that we get you the things you’re
stuff that we get you the things you’re not prepared for yeah we look up at the
not prepared for yeah we look up at the
not prepared for yeah we look up at the sky and we see all these stars so really
sky and we see all these stars so really
sky and we see all these stars so really the little sons and we assume there
the little sons and we assume there
the little sons and we assume there could be solar systems around them with
could be solar systems around them with
could be solar systems around them with planets so we’re always saying there’s
planets so we’re always saying there’s
planets so we’re always saying there’s with all those billions and billions of
with all those billions and billions of
with all those billions and billions of stars out there there must be a few with
stars out there there must be a few with
stars out there there must be a few with planets circling them that are really
planets circling them that are really
planets circling them that are really like Earth in that zero the 40 degrees
like Earth in that zero the 40 degrees
like Earth in that zero the 40 degrees Celsius range where life as we know it
Celsius range where life as we know it
Celsius range where life as we know it could exist we have trouble spotting
could exist we have trouble spotting
could exist we have trouble spotting them
them
them we do although we’re getting we’re
we do although we’re getting we’re
we do although we’re getting we’re getting better and better at this
getting better and better at this
getting better and better at this looking outward to distant worlds around
looking outward to distant worlds around
looking outward to distant worlds around other stars in fact this is one of the
other stars in fact this is one of the
other stars in fact this is one of the most exciting things going on i think in
most exciting things going on i think in
most exciting things going on i think in planetary science right now so not only
planetary science right now so not only
planetary science right now so not only are we pushing the frontiers in our own
are we pushing the frontiers in our own
are we pushing the frontiers in our own solar system you know sending missions
solar system you know sending missions
solar system you know sending missions to other worlds landing Rovers on Mars
to other worlds landing Rovers on Mars
to other worlds landing Rovers on Mars we’re also looking outward using
we’re also looking outward using
we’re also looking outward using telescopes based on earth and also in
telescopes based on earth and also in
telescopes based on earth and also in orbit out in space we’re looking at
orbit out in space we’re looking at
orbit out in space we’re looking at these distant pinpoints of light were
these distant pinpoints of light were
these distant pinpoints of light were actually where a board detecting planets
actually where a board detecting planets
actually where a board detecting planets hundreds thousands of planets have now
hundreds thousands of planets have now
hundreds thousands of planets have now been found in the last decade or so
been found in the last decade or so
been found in the last decade or so they’re called exoplanets so extrasolar
they’re called exoplanets so extrasolar
they’re called exoplanets so extrasolar planets planets outside of our own solar
planets planets outside of our own solar
planets planets outside of our own solar system you probably read a little bit
system you probably read a little bit
system you probably read a little bit about them in the news we’re sailing
about them in the news we’re sailing
about them in the news we’re sailing seeing solar systems though that really
seeing solar systems though that really
seeing solar systems though that really aren’t anything like ours but we found
aren’t anything like ours but we found
aren’t anything like ours but we found recently not too long ago a planet that
recently not too long ago a planet that
recently not too long ago a planet that was they thought was sort of like earth
was they thought was sort of like earth
was they thought was sort of like earth but explain this because the stars have
but explain this because the stars have
but explain this because the stars have life so that’s how we see them planets
life so that’s how we see them planets
life so that’s how we see them planets are dark they are gay and reflected
are dark they are gay and reflected
are dark they are gay and reflected light so you can’t really see it so
light so you can’t really see it so
light so you can’t really see it so we’re saying there’s a planet how do we
we’re saying there’s a planet how do we
we’re saying there’s a planet how do we know that well this is one of the great
know that well this is one of the great
know that well this is one of the great things about space exploration it really
things about space exploration it really
things about space exploration it really pushes the boundaries of what is
pushes the boundaries of what is
pushes the boundaries of what is technologically possible so there’s sort
technologically possible so there’s sort
technologically possible so there’s sort of two big ways that we find these these
of two big ways that we find these these
of two big ways that we find these these planets around other stars the first is
planets around other stars the first is
planets around other stars the first is the fact that when the planets orbiting
the fact that when the planets orbiting
the fact that when the planets orbiting okay there’s there’s gravity so every
okay there’s there’s gravity so every
okay there’s there’s gravity so every time the planet orbits it exerts a
time the planet orbits it exerts a
time the planet orbits it exerts a slight tug on the star there’s a slight
slight tug on the star there’s a slight
slight tug on the star there’s a slight East centricity it exerts a little tug
East centricity it exerts a little tug
East centricity it exerts a little tug we can actually measure that wobble from
we can actually measure that wobble from
we can actually measure that wobble from Earth requires incredible precision but
Earth requires incredible precision but
Earth requires incredible precision but we can get that the other thing and this
we can get that the other thing and this
we can get that the other thing and this is just coming online now is using light
is just coming online now is using light
is just coming online now is using light itself so you have your telescope you’re
itself so you have your telescope you’re
itself so you have your telescope you’re staring up at your star and you’re just
staring up at your star and you’re just
staring up at your star and you’re just staring at monitoring monitoring
staring at monitoring monitoring
staring at monitoring monitoring monitoring if the planet passes between
monitoring if the planet passes between
monitoring if the planet passes between your line of sight and the star there’s
your line of sight and the star there’s
your line of sight and the star there’s a darkening darkening curve and then
a darkening darkening curve and then
a darkening darkening curve and then when the planets done passing comes back
when the planets done passing comes back
when the planets done passing comes back up it’s an eclipse from billions and
up it’s an eclipse from billions and
up it’s an eclipse from billions and billions of miles away but from that you
billions of miles away but from that you
billions of miles away but from that you can detect a planet you can get a sense
can detect a planet you can get a sense
can detect a planet you can get a sense of their size together with the wobble
of their size together with the wobble
of their size together with the wobble you get a son
you get a son
you get a son of their mass and even if you’re lucky
of their mass and even if you’re lucky
of their mass and even if you’re lucky if they have a thick atmosphere you can
if they have a thick atmosphere you can
if they have a thick atmosphere you can even see a bit of that atmosphere in the
even see a bit of that atmosphere in the
even see a bit of that atmosphere in the spectrum that comes off of that star so
spectrum that comes off of that star so
spectrum that comes off of that star so you can get a sense of what what the
you can get a sense of what what the
you can get a sense of what what the gases are in the atmospheres of planets
gases are in the atmospheres of planets
gases are in the atmospheres of planets in other solar systems that you can’t
in other solar systems that you can’t
in other solar systems that you can’t see without actually seeing you cannot
see without actually seeing you cannot
see without actually seeing you cannot see with the naked eye what kind of
see with the naked eye what kind of
see with the naked eye what kind of interaction because i’m sure that Border
interaction because i’m sure that Border
interaction because i’m sure that Border Patrol people see you when you’re out
Patrol people see you when you’re out
Patrol people see you when you’re out there doing your research do they say
there doing your research do they say
there doing your research do they say you’re really not helping the situation
you’re really not helping the situation
you’re really not helping the situation or or don’t whatever you do don’t help
or or don’t whatever you do don’t help
or or don’t whatever you do don’t help one of these get migrants that you find
one of these get migrants that you find
one of these get migrants that you find you know what we’re doing is not we’re
you know what we’re doing is not we’re
you know what we’re doing is not we’re not trying to help or hinder we’re
not trying to help or hinder we’re
not trying to help or hinder we’re trying to document but for me at the end
trying to document but for me at the end
trying to document but for me at the end of the day if I run into someone in the
of the day if I run into someone in the
of the day if I run into someone in the desert it’s usually it’s because they
desert it’s usually it’s because they
desert it’s usually it’s because they need help and they’ve been left behind
need help and they’ve been left behind
need help and they’ve been left behind maybe they don’t have any their feet are
maybe they don’t have any their feet are
maybe they don’t have any their feet are so blistered and so you know the legal
so blistered and so you know the legal
so blistered and so you know the legal the legal bounds of the research are I
the legal bounds of the research are I
the legal bounds of the research are I can call 911 medical assistance I can
can call 911 medical assistance I can
can call 911 medical assistance I can give them food and water I can’t further
give them food and water I can’t further
give them food and water I can’t further their journey I can put them in the car
their journey I can put them in the car
their journey I can put them in the car and drive in the Tucson but I can’t put
and drive in the Tucson but I can’t put
and drive in the Tucson but I can’t put them in the car and driving to the
them in the car and driving to the
them in the car and driving to the emergency room on 3rd on death’s door
emergency room on 3rd on death’s door
emergency room on 3rd on death’s door but I think what I do is so weird to a
but I think what I do is so weird to a
but I think what I do is so weird to a lot of people migrants look at me like
lot of people migrants look at me like
lot of people migrants look at me like you want to look in my backpack what you
you want to look in my backpack what you
you want to look in my backpack what you know why are you ask me about my shoes
know why are you ask me about my shoes
know why are you ask me about my shoes or asking me about what I’m carrying
or asking me about what I’m carrying
or asking me about what I’m carrying Border Patrol looks at me and they’re
Border Patrol looks at me and they’re
Border Patrol looks at me and they’re like what are you doing out here you’re
like what are you doing out here you’re
like what are you doing out here you’re doing archaeology of migrants stuff I
doing archaeology of migrants stuff I
doing archaeology of migrants stuff I don’t so I think right now I’m weird
don’t so I think right now I’m weird
don’t so I think right now I’m weird enough that nobody really knows what to
enough that nobody really knows what to
enough that nobody really knows what to make of me
make of me
make of me a perfect college professor joy you’re
a perfect college professor joy you’re
a perfect college professor joy you’re trying to get us to care about the
trying to get us to care about the
trying to get us to care about the planet through the photos and but
planet through the photos and but
planet through the photos and but primarily likely you’ve been focused on
primarily likely you’ve been focused on
primarily likely you’ve been focused on animals that are in captivity and where
animals that are in captivity and where
animals that are in captivity and where this needs to be solved is with those
this needs to be solved is with those
this needs to be solved is with those that are in the wild how does how does
that are in the wild how does how does
that are in the wild how does how does that get us from captive animals zoo
that get us from captive animals zoo
that get us from captive animals zoo animals to wild animals well the the
animals to wild animals well the the
animals to wild animals well the the truth matter is a lot of animals only
truth matter is a lot of animals only
truth matter is a lot of animals only exist in captivity now azuz our zoos are
exist in captivity now azuz our zoos are
exist in captivity now azuz our zoos are basically arcs now for many species so
basically arcs now for many species so
basically arcs now for many species so if I want to photograph a certain type
if I want to photograph a certain type
if I want to photograph a certain type of primate or a bird I number one can’t
of primate or a bird I number one can’t
of primate or a bird I number one can’t do the process in the wild unless I’m
do the process in the wild unless I’m
do the process in the wild unless I’m with a group of people that are let’s
with a group of people that are let’s
with a group of people that are let’s say miss netting birds for tagging for
say miss netting birds for tagging for
say miss netting birds for tagging for identification bird banders then I could
identification bird banders then I could
identification bird banders then I could go along and do that but for most of
go along and do that but for most of
go along and do that but for most of things that I want to photograph they
things that I want to photograph they
things that I want to photograph they they exist in zoos that’s that’s where i
they exist in zoos that’s that’s where i
they exist in zoos that’s that’s where i can get the pictures but for people that
can get the pictures but for people that
can get the pictures but for people that don’t care for zoos i have to tell you
don’t care for zoos i have to tell you
don’t care for zoos i have to tell you there’s nobody cares more about animals
there’s nobody cares more about animals
there’s nobody cares more about animals than people in zoos they’re the place
than people in zoos they’re the place
than people in zoos they’re the place that most of the world sees wild animals
that most of the world sees wild animals
that most of the world sees wild animals anymore since we’re mostly urban now and
anymore since we’re mostly urban now and
anymore since we’re mostly urban now and and the only hope for a lot of species
and the only hope for a lot of species
and the only hope for a lot of species you saw in the in the show that flashed
you saw in the in the show that flashed
you saw in the in the show that flashed by the only place you’ll see breeding
by the only place you’ll see breeding
by the only place you’ll see breeding populations now are in zoos and several
populations now are in zoos and several
populations now are in zoos and several the species i showed tonight would be
the species i showed tonight would be
the species i showed tonight would be gone without zoos so i’m actually a
gone without zoos so i’m actually a
gone without zoos so i’m actually a pretty big fan and zoos put a lot of
pretty big fan and zoos put a lot of
pretty big fan and zoos put a lot of money into back to your question boy
money into back to your question boy
money into back to your question boy zoos put a lot of money into into
zoos put a lot of money into into
zoos put a lot of money into into preserving habitat and poaching patrols
preserving habitat and poaching patrols
preserving habitat and poaching patrols that kind of thing they’re they’re a
that kind of thing they’re they’re a
that kind of thing they’re they’re a real player now well over nearly two
real player now well over nearly two
real player now well over nearly two hundred million dollars alone last year
hundred million dollars alone last year
hundred million dollars alone last year by zoos put into foreign countries
by zoos put into foreign countries
by zoos put into foreign countries outside the US to buy us zoos to try to
outside the US to buy us zoos to try to
outside the US to buy us zoos to try to stop the slaughter in the extinction
stop the slaughter in the extinction
stop the slaughter in the extinction this is one of your pictures picture of
this is one of your pictures picture of
this is one of your pictures picture of Monarch butterflies now the story i’m
Monarch butterflies now the story i’m
Monarch butterflies now the story i’m going to mission doesn’t really have to
going to mission doesn’t really have to
going to mission doesn’t really have to do with monarch butterflies but it was
do with monarch butterflies but it was
do with monarch butterflies but it was when you were in the DD national mark in
when you were in the DD national mark in
when you were in the DD national mark in bolivia you were trying to get
bolivia you were trying to get
bolivia you were trying to get butterflies a different kind of
butterflies a different kind of
butterflies a different kind of butterfly to come in around you and do
butterfly to come in around you and do
butterfly to come in around you and do that you’re relying in your own urine
that you’re relying in your own urine
that you’re relying in your own urine sure oh yeah and that attracts
sure oh yeah and that attracts
sure oh yeah and that attracts butterflies well in the jungle salts a
butterflies well in the jungle salts a
butterflies well in the jungle salts a very
very
very just commodity and butterflies like to
just commodity and butterflies like to
just commodity and butterflies like to come in and get the salt and minerals in
come in and get the salt and minerals in
come in and get the salt and minerals in urine so I laid in the late on the
urine so I laid in the late on the
urine so I laid in the late on the mudflat middle of the day when that much
mudflat middle of the day when that much
mudflat middle of the day when that much was going on the butterflies would come
was going on the butterflies would come
was going on the butterflies would come out and they’re real that some species
out and they’re real that some species
out and they’re real that some species were very active in the middle of the
were very active in the middle of the
were very active in the middle of the day and they’d all congregate on you
day and they’d all congregate on you
day and they’d all congregate on you know where I’d peed and I laid there for
know where I’d peed and I laid there for
know where I’d peed and I laid there for about three days and I got this rash on
about three days and I got this rash on
about three days and I got this rash on my stomach and my guide said you know I
my stomach and my guide said you know I
my stomach and my guide said you know I wouldn’t lay there anymore if I were you
wouldn’t lay there anymore if I were you
wouldn’t lay there anymore if I were you we’ve all been peeing in that spot to
we’ve all been peeing in that spot to
we’ve all been peeing in that spot to help you out and but that picture did
help you out and but that picture did
help you out and but that picture did run thank you Chris that’s the story
run thank you Chris that’s the story
run thank you Chris that’s the story that’ll get your picture in the magazine
that’ll get your picture in the magazine
that’ll get your picture in the magazine I’m sure that you guys have some
I’m sure that you guys have some
I’m sure that you guys have some questions out here since you have this
questions out here since you have this
questions out here since you have this opportunity to talk to our merging
opportunity to talk to our merging
opportunity to talk to our merging explorers and to one of our great
explorers and to one of our great
explorers and to one of our great photographers directly we have some mics
photographers directly we have some mics
photographers directly we have some mics if you raise your hand we’ll race them
if you raise your hand we’ll race them
if you raise your hand we’ll race them right down to you right back where you
right down to you right back where you
right down to you right back where you are a question for Jason what what is
are a question for Jason what what is
are a question for Jason what what is the biggest misunderstanding that people
the biggest misunderstanding that people
the biggest misunderstanding that people have when they when they think about
have when they when they think about
have when they when they think about your work like basically like when they
your work like basically like when they
your work like basically like when they when they think about border crossings
when they think about border crossings
when they think about border crossings and what their life is like I think a
and what their life is like I think a
and what their life is like I think a big misconception is that they just took
big misconception is that they just took
big misconception is that they just took a flight over here and sort of showed up
a flight over here and sort of showed up
a flight over here and sort of showed up and we’re like you know I’m ready to go
and we’re like you know I’m ready to go
and we’re like you know I’m ready to go to work I think that most people don’t
to work I think that most people don’t
to work I think that most people don’t know that they’ve gone through a lot
know that they’ve gone through a lot
know that they’ve gone through a lot just to be in the sort of shadows we
just to be in the sort of shadows we
just to be in the sort of shadows we have down front if you raise a mic down
have down front if you raise a mic down
have down front if you raise a mic down here what do you say that the idea of
here what do you say that the idea of
here what do you say that the idea of Rudy Genesis or cloning extinct species
Rudy Genesis or cloning extinct species
Rudy Genesis or cloning extinct species has been more of a help or hindrance to
has been more of a help or hindrance to
has been more of a help or hindrance to the effort to preserve endangered
the effort to preserve endangered
the effort to preserve endangered species young man that is not the
species young man that is not the
species young man that is not the question I expected you to ask I like
question I expected you to ask I like
question I expected you to ask I like the look that’s pretty cool cloning of
the look that’s pretty cool cloning of
the look that’s pretty cool cloning of extinct species and bringing them back
extinct species and bringing them back
extinct species and bringing them back to life well we had a de extinction
to life well we had a de extinction
to life well we had a de extinction conference right here on this stage and
conference right here on this stage and
conference right here on this stage and boy I’d love to see a mastadon or a
boy I’d love to see a mastadon or a
boy I’d love to see a mastadon or a woolly mammoth I think that’d be cool
woolly mammoth I think that’d be cool
woolly mammoth I think that’d be cool cooler than hell to be exact see a
cooler than hell to be exact see a
cooler than hell to be exact see a passenger pigeon or a Carolina parakeet
passenger pigeon or a Carolina parakeet
passenger pigeon or a Carolina parakeet or a Heath hen or a grey dog I would
or a Heath hen or a grey dog I would
or a Heath hen or a grey dog I would love that but that just might take our
love that but that just might take our
love that but that just might take our eye off the ball see we have all these
eye off the ball see we have all these
eye off the ball see we have all these species that are a lot
species that are a lot
species that are a lot right now going extinct if we get the
right now going extinct if we get the
right now going extinct if we get the public in their infant s imel little bit
public in their infant s imel little bit
public in their infant s imel little bit of attention span they have left to say
of attention span they have left to say
of attention span they have left to say oh you know what will just freeze that
oh you know what will just freeze that
oh you know what will just freeze that will let everything go extinct we can
will let everything go extinct we can
will let everything go extinct we can bring them back anytime we want it’s
bring them back anytime we want it’s
bring them back anytime we want it’s like going on the grocery store I think
like going on the grocery store I think
like going on the grocery store I think I’ll take that one this year this is a
I’ll take that one this year this is a
I’ll take that one this year this is a big problem because we already don’t
big problem because we already don’t
big problem because we already don’t focus enough time and attention on what
focus enough time and attention on what
focus enough time and attention on what we have living with us so I’m a little
we have living with us so I’m a little
we have living with us so I’m a little torn but not that much I would really I
torn but not that much I would really I
torn but not that much I would really I would as much as I would dearly love to
would as much as I would dearly love to
would as much as I would dearly love to see extinct species brought back I’ve
see extinct species brought back I’ve
see extinct species brought back I’ve seen them right before they go extinct
seen them right before they go extinct
seen them right before they go extinct and I can tell you we really need to be
and I can tell you we really need to be
and I can tell you we really need to be focusing on how to save everything
focusing on how to save everything
focusing on how to save everything that’s right here and put our resources
that’s right here and put our resources
that’s right here and put our resources into that that’s just my question oh
into that that’s just my question oh
into that that’s just my question oh this one right back there and they I’m
this one right back there and they I’m
this one right back there and they I’m back yeah hand up comes a mite flying
back yeah hand up comes a mite flying
back yeah hand up comes a mite flying down hi there I have a question on space
down hi there I have a question on space
down hi there I have a question on space explorer Asian every few weeks we see a
explorer Asian every few weeks we see a
explorer Asian every few weeks we see a headline about oh we’ve discovered a new
headline about oh we’ve discovered a new
headline about oh we’ve discovered a new planet that’s in the in the direct zone
planet that’s in the in the direct zone
planet that’s in the in the direct zone yes the word that I can’t come up with
yes the word that I can’t come up with
yes the word that I can’t come up with or we see some see something posted that
or we see some see something posted that
or we see some see something posted that the Mars Explorer has found or
the Mars Explorer has found or
the Mars Explorer has found or discovered or something along those
discovered or something along those
discovered or something along those lines but it’s always tinged when you
lines but it’s always tinged when you
lines but it’s always tinged when you read it it’s like well maybe it is maybe
read it it’s like well maybe it is maybe
read it it’s like well maybe it is maybe it’s not what is your thoughts on the
it’s not what is your thoughts on the
it’s not what is your thoughts on the dangers of overexposure to some of these
dangers of overexposure to some of these
dangers of overexposure to some of these things about over about about basically
things about over about about basically
things about over about about basically making the public tired of a message
making the public tired of a message
making the public tired of a message that is still pushing us forward but not
that is still pushing us forward but not
that is still pushing us forward but not as dramatically as some people would
as dramatically as some people would
as dramatically as some people would expect it’s a great question I was
expect it’s a great question I was
expect it’s a great question I was actually talking to a few folks today
actually talking to a few folks today
actually talking to a few folks today about that you know the headline water
about that you know the headline water
about that you know the headline water found on Mars a lot of you probably
found on Mars a lot of you probably
found on Mars a lot of you probably heard that one before so what the
heard that one before so what the
heard that one before so what the message is if i were to reframe it not
message is if i were to reframe it not
message is if i were to reframe it not say water found on Mars you know x 10
say water found on Mars you know x 10
say water found on Mars you know x 10 what i would say is that mars three
what i would say is that mars three
what i would say is that mars three billion years ago was a diverse place
billion years ago was a diverse place
billion years ago was a diverse place and a lot like earth that depending on
and a lot like earth that depending on
and a lot like earth that depending on where you looked on the planet
where you looked on the planet
where you looked on the planet there is a different kind of environment
there is a different kind of environment
there is a different kind of environment that involved water just just like there
that involved water just just like there
that involved water just just like there is here on earth today it’s a challenge
is here on earth today it’s a challenge
is here on earth today it’s a challenge I think to those of us who work as
I think to those of us who work as
I think to those of us who work as scientists to be clearer more articulate
scientists to be clearer more articulate
scientists to be clearer more articulate communicators as to what exactly is it
communicators as to what exactly is it
communicators as to what exactly is it that is important about any given
that is important about any given
that is important about any given discovery and it’s also a challenge for
discovery and it’s also a challenge for
discovery and it’s also a challenge for the media same question what exactly
the media same question what exactly
the media same question what exactly about this discovery is it that makes it
about this discovery is it that makes it
about this discovery is it that makes it significant so there’s a there’s a
significant so there’s a there’s a
significant so there’s a there’s a push-pull going on there and I think you
push-pull going on there and I think you
push-pull going on there and I think you know those of you in the audience can go
know those of you in the audience can go
know those of you in the audience can go out and be great communicators about
out and be great communicators about
out and be great communicators about this is you know the literate public
this is you know the literate public
this is you know the literate public who’s curious about exploration and you
who’s curious about exploration and you
who’s curious about exploration and you know share that excitement with other
know share that excitement with other
know share that excitement with other people tell them what that headline
people tell them what that headline
people tell them what that headline means well thank you all for coming
means well thank you all for coming
means well thank you all for coming tonight listening to our emerging
tonight listening to our emerging
tonight listening to our emerging explorers a photographer Joel I think
explorers a photographer Joel I think
explorers a photographer Joel I think we’ve got a sense that National
we’ve got a sense that National
we’ve got a sense that National Geographic after 125 years is still
Geographic after 125 years is still
Geographic after 125 years is still committed to going out and telling
committed to going out and telling
committed to going out and telling stories about our world other worlds to
stories about our world other worlds to
stories about our world other worlds to give us a better sense of who we are
give us a better sense of who we are
give us a better sense of who we are what we are here I think we’ve learned
what we are here I think we’ve learned
what we are here I think we’ve learned something tonight don’t lie down in your
something tonight don’t lie down in your
something tonight don’t lie down in your own urine especially don’t lie down in
own urine especially don’t lie down in
own urine especially don’t lie down in strangers urine but we’ve also learned
strangers urine but we’ve also learned
strangers urine but we’ve also learned that National Geographic is finding some
that National Geographic is finding some
that National Geographic is finding some amazing minds to be emerging explorers
amazing minds to be emerging explorers
amazing minds to be emerging explorers who are tackling these big challenges
who are tackling these big challenges
who are tackling these big challenges out there and that the people who have
out there and that the people who have
out there and that the people who have already been doing it for 20 years for
already been doing it for 20 years for
already been doing it for 20 years for us are still going to extraordinary
us are still going to extraordinary
us are still going to extraordinary links to bring these stories back that
links to bring these stories back that
links to bring these stories back that hopefully will make this planet the
hopefully will make this planet the
hopefully will make this planet the wonderful place that we call home so
wonderful place that we call home so
wonderful place that we call home so thank you for joining us
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