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when I came to Geographic I was 25 I was

when I came to Geographic I was 25 I was the youngest photographer here through

the youngest photographer here through

the youngest photographer here through through the the courage and foresight of

through the the courage and foresight of

through the the courage and foresight of Bob gilga he he gave me opportunities

Bob gilga he he gave me opportunities

Bob gilga he he gave me opportunities and I didn’t completely fall on my sword

and I didn’t completely fall on my sword

and I didn’t completely fall on my sword on any of them and and I you know I just

on any of them and and I you know I just

on any of them and and I you know I just had this opportunity to balance a crazy

had this opportunity to balance a crazy

had this opportunity to balance a crazy career with a life and almost any time I

career with a life and almost any time I

career with a life and almost any time I speak there’s there’ll be a young woman

speak there’s there’ll be a young woman

speak there’s there’ll be a young woman in the audience who says can you really

in the audience who says can you really

in the audience who says can you really do it and I and I say to them you know

do it and I and I say to them you know

do it and I and I say to them you know if you mean can you have it all no oh

if you mean can you have it all no oh

if you mean can you have it all no oh you know life is not without compromise

you know life is not without compromise

you know life is not without compromise but can you find balance and and

but can you find balance and and

but can you find balance and and whatever the priorities in your life are

whatever the priorities in your life are

whatever the priorities in your life are can you can you bail us those with

can you can you bail us those with

can you can you bail us those with something you love absolutely because if

something you love absolutely because if

something you love absolutely because if I can do it with my crazy job and my

I can do it with my crazy job and my

I can do it with my crazy job and my crazy family I think anyone can so I

crazy family I think anyone can so I

crazy family I think anyone can so I would like to take you to see a little

would like to take you to see a little

would like to take you to see a little bit of the wonderful stuff I’ve been

bit of the wonderful stuff I’ve been

bit of the wonderful stuff I’ve been lucky enough to experience and I’m gonna

lucky enough to experience and I’m gonna

lucky enough to experience and I’m gonna start by telling you a story that

start by telling you a story that

start by telling you a story that happened to me when I was a very young

happened to me when I was a very young

happened to me when I was a very young photographer it happened in 1980 and my

photographer it happened in 1980 and my

photographer it happened in 1980 and my first trip to Africa was to a country

first trip to Africa was to a country

first trip to Africa was to a country called Namibia and we set out to find a

called Namibia and we set out to find a

called Namibia and we set out to find a very remote tribe the Himba tribe this

very remote tribe the Himba tribe this

very remote tribe the Himba tribe this was at a time when there had been seven

was at a time when there had been seven

was at a time when there had been seven years of drought and so this nomadic

years of drought and so this nomadic

years of drought and so this nomadic tribe was particularly distant now and

tribe was particularly distant now and

tribe was particularly distant now and trying to survive we got a special

trying to survive we got a special

trying to survive we got a special vehicle to take us up to to try to find

vehicle to take us up to to try to find

vehicle to take us up to to try to find them and the first people I saw after

them and the first people I saw after

them and the first people I saw after looking for about four or five days for

looking for about four or five days for

looking for about four or five days for a group of three women and two kids and

a group of three women and two kids and

a group of three women and two kids and they were down in kind of a little

they were down in kind of a little

they were down in kind of a little ravine and I went down the ravine and

ravine and I went down the ravine and

ravine and I went down the ravine and they looked at me as though I had landed

they looked at me as though I had landed

they looked at me as though I had landed by spaceship they just stared kind of

by spaceship they just stared kind of

by spaceship they just stared kind of open-faced stared and I went down and in

open-faced stared and I went down and in

open-faced stared and I went down and in those days back in the olden days when

those days back in the olden days when

those days back in the olden days when we had Polaroids I pulled out a Polaroid

we had Polaroids I pulled out a Polaroid

we had Polaroids I pulled out a Polaroid camera and by way of making friends with

camera and by way of making friends with

camera and by way of making friends with them I took their picture no they didn’t

them I took their picture no they didn’t

them I took their picture no they didn’t know what I was doing

know what I was doing

know what I was doing and that I handed them the little white

and that I handed them the little white

and that I handed them the little white square and they had no idea what I was

square and they had no idea what I was

square and they had no idea what I was handing them but as their pictures came

handing them but as their pictures came

handing them but as their pictures came up on the Polaroid all of a sudden the

up on the Polaroid all of a sudden the

up on the Polaroid all of a sudden the women just fell to the ground rolled

women just fell to the ground rolled

women just fell to the ground rolled literally rolling around laughing and

literally rolling around laughing and

literally rolling around laughing and pointing and looking at each other and

pointing and looking at each other and

pointing and looking at each other and giggling and the and and what I finally

giggling and the and and what I finally

giggling and the and and what I finally recognized without a word of their

recognized without a word of their

recognized without a word of their language was they were saying this is

language was they were saying this is

language was they were saying this is you know yeah that’s that’s you yeah

you know yeah that’s that’s you yeah

you know yeah that’s that’s you yeah that’s me because none of these women

that’s me because none of these women

that’s me because none of these women had ever seen her own face before they

had ever seen her own face before they

had ever seen her own face before they lived in a desert in a drought there

lived in a desert in a drought there

lived in a desert in a drought there were no reflective surfaces and they

were no reflective surfaces and they

were no reflective surfaces and they recognized their own jewelry and

recognized their own jewelry and

recognized their own jewelry and clothing and bodies but they were seeing

clothing and bodies but they were seeing

clothing and bodies but they were seeing their faces for the first time I spent

their faces for the first time I spent

their faces for the first time I spent about 36 hours with this tribe because

about 36 hours with this tribe because

about 36 hours with this tribe because it was really tough to get in and chop

it was really tough to get in and chop

it was really tough to get in and chop to get out and I learned so much from

to get out and I learned so much from

to get out and I learned so much from them so I’d like to take you to meet

them so I’d like to take you to meet

them so I’d like to take you to meet them we that’s me on the left and you

them we that’s me on the left and you

them we that’s me on the left and you can see why they were a little

can see why they were a little

can see why they were a little frightened because really I mean they’d

frightened because really I mean they’d

frightened because really I mean they’d never seen glass wasn’t it it turned out

never seen glass wasn’t it it turned out

never seen glass wasn’t it it turned out that they had never seen a Caucasian

that they had never seen a Caucasian

that they had never seen a Caucasian woman before and they thought I was ugly

woman before and they thought I was ugly

woman before and they thought I was ugly you know because in their culture dark

you know because in their culture dark

you know because in their culture dark you know ochre covered skin was a thing

you know ochre covered skin was a thing

you know ochre covered skin was a thing of beauty and you know here I was

of beauty and you know here I was

of beauty and you know here I was wearing these ridiculous clothes and I

wearing these ridiculous clothes and I

wearing these ridiculous clothes and I had this thing on my head and I had

had this thing on my head and I had

had this thing on my head and I had these things on my face and but what I

these things on my face and but what I

these things on my face and but what I like about this picture is that it

like about this picture is that it

like about this picture is that it doesn’t it look like it’s a couple of

doesn’t it look like it’s a couple of

doesn’t it look like it’s a couple of girlfriends talking just chatting and we

girlfriends talking just chatting and we

girlfriends talking just chatting and we were without the benefit of language and

were without the benefit of language and

were without the benefit of language and from this encounter with these women

from this encounter with these women

from this encounter with these women I learned that without language you can

I learned that without language you can

I learned that without language you can tell anyone that their kids are

tell anyone that their kids are

tell anyone that their kids are beautiful that you like their hair that

beautiful that you like their hair that

beautiful that you like their hair that you know that you’re interested in them

you know that you’re interested in them

you know that you’re interested in them you can express interest and you can

you can express interest and you can

you can express interest and you can pantomime and it’s actually better than

pantomime and it’s actually better than

pantomime and it’s actually better than having an interpreter because you’re

having an interpreter because you’re

having an interpreter because you’re communicating directly with somebody

communicating directly with somebody

communicating directly with somebody without a wall being set up that blocks

without a wall being set up that blocks

without a wall being set up that blocks the communication so I’d much rather

the communication so I’d much rather

the communication so I’d much rather make an idiot out of myself pantomiming

make an idiot out of myself pantomiming

make an idiot out of myself pantomiming something then then have an interpreter

something then then have an interpreter

something then then have an interpreter saying it correctly and having it fed

saying it correctly and having it fed

saying it correctly and having it fed back to me so I learned a lot the

back to me so I learned a lot the

back to me so I learned a lot the reality for these women was pretty rough

reality for these women was pretty rough

reality for these women was pretty rough they they were trying to keep their

they they were trying to keep their

they they were trying to keep their babies fed one of the ways they

babies fed one of the ways they

babies fed one of the ways they communicated they held their breasts up

communicated they held their breasts up

communicated they held their breasts up and pointed to their mouths and wondered

and pointed to their mouths and wondered

and pointed to their mouths and wondered if I had some kind of magic potion or

if I had some kind of magic potion or

if I had some kind of magic potion or something that would help their milk to

something that would help their milk to

something that would help their milk to come in they lived in this beautiful

come in they lived in this beautiful

come in they lived in this beautiful part of the world just beautiful the

part of the world just beautiful the

part of the world just beautiful the Namib Desert but can you imagine finding

Namib Desert but can you imagine finding

Namib Desert but can you imagine finding lunch and yet these people were master

lunch and yet these people were master

lunch and yet these people were master survivors from generations and they

survivors from generations and they

survivors from generations and they could find food and water where none of

could find food and water where none of

could find food and water where none of us would ever have been able to do that

us would ever have been able to do that

us would ever have been able to do that they lived side by side with wildlife

they lived side by side with wildlife

they lived side by side with wildlife amazing wildlife and they had an

amazing wildlife and they had an

amazing wildlife and they had an understanding that I could observe just

understanding that I could observe just

understanding that I could observe just just the way they related to the

just the way they related to the

just the way they related to the wildlife each knowing that the other

wildlife each knowing that the other

wildlife each knowing that the other animal could kill them and when they

animal could kill them and when they

animal could kill them and when they when they were lucky enough to to you

when they were lucky enough to to you

when they were lucky enough to to you know kill some wildlife and get some

know kill some wildlife and get some

know kill some wildlife and get some fresh meat they didn’t waste anything

fresh meat they didn’t waste anything

fresh meat they didn’t waste anything and their clothing and everything was

and their clothing and everything was

and their clothing and everything was used as part of their lives it’s a

used as part of their lives it’s a

used as part of their lives it’s a beautiful country and and I was lucky

beautiful country and and I was lucky

beautiful country and and I was lucky enough to go back last year for the

enough to go back last year for the

enough to go back last year for the first time in almost 30 years and I

first time in almost 30 years and I

first time in almost 30 years and I loved Namibia but my life started in the

loved Namibia but my life started in the

loved Namibia but my life started in the Midwest this is my mother and this

Midwest this is my mother and this

Midwest this is my mother and this picture was taken by my dad on I think

picture was taken by my dad on I think

picture was taken by my dad on I think their first date

their first date

their first date and what I love about this is my mother

and what I love about this is my mother

and what I love about this is my mother grew up under the firm hand of a very

grew up under the firm hand of a very

grew up under the firm hand of a very very strict Catholic Irish mother and

very strict Catholic Irish mother and

very strict Catholic Irish mother and mom you know I don’t think I’ve told you

mom you know I don’t think I’ve told you

mom you know I don’t think I’ve told you this but you’re wearing pants and and I

this but you’re wearing pants and and I

this but you’re wearing pants and and I remember when I was growing up I could

remember when I was growing up I could

remember when I was growing up I could never wear pants at Grandma’s house but

never wear pants at Grandma’s house but

never wear pants at Grandma’s house but my mother this is you know this is fixed

my mother this is you know this is fixed

my mother this is you know this is fixed well of her character she somehow

well of her character she somehow

well of her character she somehow convinced this mother of hers to let her

convinced this mother of hers to let her

convinced this mother of hers to let her go for the summer to Glacier Park and

go for the summer to Glacier Park and

go for the summer to Glacier Park and wait be a waitress which is greater than

wait be a waitress which is greater than

wait be a waitress which is greater than anything I’ve ever conquered I’ll tell

anything I’ve ever conquered I’ll tell

anything I’ve ever conquered I’ll tell ya and out there she met dad and dad

ya and out there she met dad and dad

ya and out there she met dad and dad took this picture and came back and

took this picture and came back and

took this picture and came back and built a life these are my parents with

built a life these are my parents with

built a life these are my parents with me when I was really little and this is

me when I was really little and this is

me when I was really little and this is how I grew up I grew up classic

how I grew up I grew up classic

how I grew up I grew up classic Midwestern good people hard work not you

Midwestern good people hard work not you

Midwestern good people hard work not you know

know

know it comfortable and happy we didn’t go

it comfortable and happy we didn’t go

it comfortable and happy we didn’t go anywhere except up to our little lake

anywhere except up to our little lake

anywhere except up to our little lake cottage which is still in the family I’m

cottage which is still in the family I’m

cottage which is still in the family I’m happy to report this is you can tell I’m

happy to report this is you can tell I’m

happy to report this is you can tell I’m the one in the white hat I’ve always had

the one in the white hat I’ve always had

the one in the white hat I’ve always had quite a sense of style but we just had

quite a sense of style but we just had

quite a sense of style but we just had you know this wonderful life but it

you know this wonderful life but it

you know this wonderful life but it didn’t it didn’t include seeing the

didn’t it didn’t include seeing the

didn’t it didn’t include seeing the world but I somehow I inherited my

world but I somehow I inherited my

world but I somehow I inherited my mother’s wanderlust

mother’s wanderlust

mother’s wanderlust mom wanted to go anywhere anytime this

mom wanted to go anywhere anytime this

mom wanted to go anywhere anytime this is the picture that Marianne spoke about

is the picture that Marianne spoke about

is the picture that Marianne spoke about that was from my beginning photo class

that was from my beginning photo class

that was from my beginning photo class and it for many many years it was the

and it for many many years it was the

and it for many many years it was the only photograph I hung in my home

only photograph I hung in my home

only photograph I hung in my home wherever I lived because it changed my

wherever I lived because it changed my

wherever I lived because it changed my life I who was always going to be a

life I who was always going to be a

life I who was always going to be a writer I fell in love with a camera and

writer I fell in love with a camera and

writer I fell in love with a camera and the things I could do with it and see

the things I could do with it and see

the things I could do with it and see through it

through it

through it and I changed my major after two weeks I

and I changed my major after two weeks I

and I changed my major after two weeks I worked at the University paper and then

worked at the University paper and then

worked at the University paper and then I went down to work for a really

I went down to work for a really

I went down to work for a really terrific rural daily in southern

terrific rural daily in southern

terrific rural daily in southern Minnesota that had a wonderful photo

Minnesota that had a wonderful photo

Minnesota that had a wonderful photo history and you know interestingly

history and you know interestingly

history and you know interestingly enough it was great preparation for

enough it was great preparation for

enough it was great preparation for Geographic because we had no assignments

Geographic because we had no assignments

Geographic because we had no assignments our job was to fill the paper with

our job was to fill the paper with

our job was to fill the paper with things that were important and that’s

things that were important and that’s

things that were important and that’s very much how we work now once we have

very much how we work now once we have

very much how we work now once we have an assignment Geographic photographers

an assignment Geographic photographers

an assignment Geographic photographers go off on their assignment and nobody

go off on their assignment and nobody

go off on their assignment and nobody knows if they get out of bed in the

knows if they get out of bed in the

knows if they get out of bed in the morning they just have to come back with

morning they just have to come back with

morning they just have to come back with the stuff so this is a weather picture

the stuff so this is a weather picture

the stuff so this is a weather picture this is an exercise class at a

this is an exercise class at a

this is an exercise class at a retirement home also down there I

retirement home also down there I

retirement home also down there I developed a love for the land and for

developed a love for the land and for

developed a love for the land and for nature because it was really out on the

nature because it was really out on the

nature because it was really out on the flat flat prairie and I came to love the

flat flat prairie and I came to love the

flat flat prairie and I came to love the flat flat Prairie and and I just learned

flat flat Prairie and and I just learned

flat flat Prairie and and I just learned that in the simplest places you really

that in the simplest places you really

that in the simplest places you really have to be able to find a photograph

have to be able to find a photograph

have to be able to find a photograph that make that communicates whether make

that make that communicates whether make

that make that communicates whether make someone smile or cry or just read the

someone smile or cry or just read the

someone smile or cry or just read the caption below it I’ve always said that

caption below it I’ve always said that

caption below it I’ve always said that if you can meet a shy Norwegian farmer

if you can meet a shy Norwegian farmer

if you can meet a shy Norwegian farmer and make it to his kitchen table then

and make it to his kitchen table then

and make it to his kitchen table then you can conquer any culture on earth and

you can conquer any culture on earth and

you can conquer any culture on earth and I learned that at the Worthington Daily

I learned that at the Worthington Daily

I learned that at the Worthington Daily Globe

Globe

Globe cuz Midwesterners are shy you know it’s

cuz Midwesterners are shy you know it’s

cuz Midwesterners are shy you know it’s so funny that’s funny shy friendly you

so funny that’s funny shy friendly you

so funny that’s funny shy friendly you know once you’re introduced they’re very

know once you’re introduced they’re very

know once you’re introduced they’re very welcoming but initially they’re very shy

welcoming but initially they’re very shy

welcoming but initially they’re very shy I learned this a lot I went to

I learned this a lot I went to

I learned this a lot I went to photograph at a Hutterite colony and I

photograph at a Hutterite colony and I

photograph at a Hutterite colony and I arrived the first day and I told them I

arrived the first day and I told them I

arrived the first day and I told them I worked for National Geographic which

worked for National Geographic which

worked for National Geographic which they had never heard of and that I was

they had never heard of and that I was

they had never heard of and that I was interested in photographing their

interested in photographing their

interested in photographing their community and they said well we don’t

community and they said well we don’t

community and they said well we don’t believe in photography and I said okay

believe in photography and I said okay

believe in photography and I said okay well can I spend some time with you and

well can I spend some time with you and

well can I spend some time with you and they said sure and so they put me to

they said sure and so they put me to

they said sure and so they put me to work in the garden and I went in and I

work in the garden and I went in and I

work in the garden and I went in and I snapped peas and I helped cook and about

snapped peas and I helped cook and about

snapped peas and I helped cook and about the second day they decided it would be

the second day they decided it would be

the second day they decided it would be so terrible if I photographed their kids

so terrible if I photographed their kids

so terrible if I photographed their kids you know because well it was just their

you know because well it was just their

you know because well it was just their kids and they all wanted pictures of

kids and they all wanted pictures of

kids and they all wanted pictures of their kids by the third day they were

their kids by the third day they were

their kids by the third day they were bringing me cameras to repair because

bringing me cameras to repair because

bringing me cameras to repair because the truth was they loved photography but

the truth was they loved photography but

the truth was they loved photography but they weren’t about to let some stranger

they weren’t about to let some stranger

they weren’t about to let some stranger waltz into their community and just

waltz into their community and just

waltz into their community and just start snapping away I had to earn it and

start snapping away I had to earn it and

start snapping away I had to earn it and that was a great lesson for life for me

that was a great lesson for life for me

that was a great lesson for life for me that you really need to earn it with

that you really need to earn it with

that you really need to earn it with people in national Geographics greatest

people in national Geographics greatest

people in national Geographics greatest gift to the photographers and writers is

gift to the photographers and writers is

gift to the photographers and writers is the time to do things new and well and

the time to do things new and well and

the time to do things new and well and and to earn it to earn those photographs

and to earn it to earn those photographs

and to earn it to earn those photographs I wish I could say it’s just because

I wish I could say it’s just because

I wish I could say it’s just because we’re all so doggone talented but the

we’re all so doggone talented but the

we’re all so doggone talented but the truth is hard work and time are the key

truth is hard work and time are the key

truth is hard work and time are the key ingredients that talent can’t do without

ingredients that talent can’t do without

ingredients that talent can’t do without this is the only manipulated picture in

this is the only manipulated picture in

this is the only manipulated picture in my book and it was a such a privilege to

my book and it was a such a privilege to

my book and it was a such a privilege to photograph this I did for our our kids

photograph this I did for our our kids

photograph this I did for our our kids magazine and they were doing a story on

magazine and they were doing a story on

magazine and they were doing a story on a wonderful little girl who was a young

a wonderful little girl who was a young

a wonderful little girl who was a young lady who was a poet and a writer and a

lady who was a poet and a writer and a

lady who was a poet and a writer and a musician but she was also born with Down

musician but she was also born with Down

musician but she was also born with Down syndrome and she was 18 and she was at

syndrome and she was 18 and she was at

syndrome and she was 18 and she was at an age where she was painfully painfully

an age where she was painfully painfully

an age where she was painfully painfully aware that she was a little bit

aware that she was a little bit

aware that she was a little bit different and yet she wanted the same

different and yet she wanted the same

different and yet she wanted the same things that most eighteen year olds

things that most eighteen year olds

things that most eighteen year olds wanted she wanted to be beautiful she

wanted she wanted to be beautiful she

wanted she wanted to be beautiful she wanted to find love she wanted to be

wanted to find love she wanted to be

wanted to find love she wanted to be seen as a grownup girl

seen as a grownup girl

seen as a grownup girl the thing that was really terrifying to

the thing that was really terrifying to

the thing that was really terrifying to her was the thought of being

her was the thought of being

her was the thought of being photographed

photographed

photographed so I actually spent three days with

so I actually spent three days with

so I actually spent three days with Melissa before I could photograph her

Melissa before I could photograph her

Melissa before I could photograph her because I just needed her to get to a

because I just needed her to get to a

because I just needed her to get to a comfort level where she would allow me

comfort level where she would allow me

comfort level where she would allow me to do so and it was like the last hour

to do so and it was like the last hour

to do so and it was like the last hour of the last day I was there and I

of the last day I was there and I

of the last day I was there and I finally sat down and I took her hands of

finally sat down and I took her hands of

finally sat down and I took her hands of mine and I said Melissa you do not have

mine and I said Melissa you do not have

mine and I said Melissa you do not have to do this you just don’t say she was

to do this you just don’t say she was

to do this you just don’t say she was getting visibly upset because she felt

getting visibly upset because she felt

getting visibly upset because she felt she was making you know disappointing me

she was making you know disappointing me

she was making you know disappointing me and I said honey you don’t have to do

and I said honey you don’t have to do

and I said honey you don’t have to do this it’s okay it’s okay we tried and

this it’s okay it’s okay we tried and

this it’s okay it’s okay we tried and you know you did your best and it was

you know you did your best and it was

you know you did your best and it was really interesting when I said that to

really interesting when I said that to

really interesting when I said that to her and I gave the control to her she

her and I gave the control to her she

her and I gave the control to her she said well I’m gonna go in my room for a

said well I’m gonna go in my room for a

said well I’m gonna go in my room for a minute and so she went into her room and

minute and so she went into her room and

minute and so she went into her room and she came out in this pink dress her

she came out in this pink dress her

she came out in this pink dress her favorite dress and she was ready to be

favorite dress and she was ready to be

favorite dress and she was ready to be photographed and not only would she let

photographed and not only would she let

photographed and not only would she let me photograph her she had ideas and one

me photograph her she had ideas and one

me photograph her she had ideas and one of her ideas was she said I feel like

of her ideas was she said I feel like

of her ideas was she said I feel like dancing and so she ran I was up on the

dancing and so she ran I was up on the

dancing and so she ran I was up on the porch and she ran down and she ran into

porch and she ran down and she ran into

porch and she ran down and she ran into her backyard and she just started

her backyard and she just started

her backyard and she just started dancing and these are three frames of

dancing and these are three frames of

dancing and these are three frames of Melissa dancing and we just put them

Melissa dancing and we just put them

Melissa dancing and we just put them together for my book because I to me it

together for my book because I to me it

together for my book because I to me it was only together that they really

was only together that they really

was only together that they really showed Melissa’s spirit this is a

showed Melissa’s spirit this is a

showed Melissa’s spirit this is a graduating class of the high school in

graduating class of the high school in

graduating class of the high school in North Dakota

I I am always laughing when I’m taking

I I am always laughing when I’m taking pictures I just think life is so funny

pictures I just think life is so funny

pictures I just think life is so funny and and I just makes me happy to find a

and and I just makes me happy to find a

and and I just makes me happy to find a way to look at something that has a

way to look at something that has a

way to look at something that has a little bit of a twinkle and this is

little bit of a twinkle and this is

little bit of a twinkle and this is graduation at Annapolis the truth for

graduation at Annapolis the truth for

graduation at Annapolis the truth for photographers is everything’s been

photographers is everything’s been

photographers is everything’s been photographed it’s all been photographed

photographed it’s all been photographed

photographed it’s all been photographed so our job is really to go out there and

so our job is really to go out there and

so our job is really to go out there and find a way to take a new picture of

find a way to take a new picture of

find a way to take a new picture of something that’s been photographed once

something that’s been photographed once

something that’s been photographed once or a million times this is a from an

or a million times this is a from an

or a million times this is a from an assignment I had I got I went out to

assignment I had I got I went out to

assignment I had I got I went out to photograph a family branding out in

photograph a family branding out in

photograph a family branding out in western Nebraska and they lived so far

western Nebraska and they lived so far

western Nebraska and they lived so far out in the boonies that I had to get

out in the boonies that I had to get

out in the boonies that I had to get there the night before in order to be

there the night before in order to be

there the night before in order to be there in time for the branding which

there in time for the branding which

there in time for the branding which started very early so they let me stay

started very early so they let me stay

started very early so they let me stay in the ranch house and I woke up the

in the ranch house and I woke up the

in the ranch house and I woke up the next morning looked out the window and

next morning looked out the window and

next morning looked out the window and this amazing sky was happening I call

this amazing sky was happening I call

this amazing sky was happening I call this a macro sky it was just gorgeous

this a macro sky it was just gorgeous

this a macro sky it was just gorgeous and the horses were in the pasture so I

and the horses were in the pasture so I

and the horses were in the pasture so I grabbed my camera and I ran down and ran

grabbed my camera and I ran down and ran

grabbed my camera and I ran down and ran down to the fence started shooting

down to the fence started shooting

down to the fence started shooting shooting shooting so happy you know

shooting shooting so happy you know

shooting shooting so happy you know those things last for about three

those things last for about three

those things last for about three minutes this guy started breaking up you

minutes this guy started breaking up you

minutes this guy started breaking up you know I kind of gave a little cheer and I

know I kind of gave a little cheer and I

know I kind of gave a little cheer and I turned around and that’s when I realized

turned around and that’s when I realized

turned around and that’s when I realized there were four or five Cowboys leaning

there were four or five Cowboys leaning

there were four or five Cowboys leaning up against the fence just looking at the

up against the fence just looking at the

up against the fence just looking at the crazy lady and about that time I

crazy lady and about that time I

crazy lady and about that time I realized that I was wearing a t-shirt

realized that I was wearing a t-shirt

realized that I was wearing a t-shirt and underwear because I just saw this

and underwear because I just saw this

and underwear because I just saw this guy and ran out there and so needless to

guy and ran out there and so needless to

guy and ran out there and so needless to say I was not very intimidating to these

say I was not very intimidating to these

say I was not very intimidating to these guys and the rest of the shoot went

guys and the rest of the shoot went

guys and the rest of the shoot went rather well you know branding day at a

rather well you know branding day at a

rather well you know branding day at a ranch is better than Christmas it’s just

ranch is better than Christmas it’s just

ranch is better than Christmas it’s just great

great

great this little guy came up to me in the

this little guy came up to me in the

this little guy came up to me in the morning of a branding and started

morning of a branding and started

morning of a branding and started tugging on my jeans he said you won’t

tugging on my jeans he said you won’t

tugging on my jeans he said you won’t see me rustle steer

see me rustle steer

see me rustle steer and I said absolutely honey I’m a little

and I said absolutely honey I’m a little

and I said absolutely honey I’m a little busy right now but absolutely I want to

busy right now but absolutely I want to

busy right now but absolutely I want to see you Restless dear and so then about

see you Restless dear and so then about

see you Restless dear and so then about lunchtime and I was shooting and

lunchtime and I was shooting and

lunchtime and I was shooting and shooting shooting he came up tugged up

shooting shooting he came up tugged up

shooting shooting he came up tugged up my jeans even want to sleep me rest a

my jeans even want to sleep me rest a

my jeans even want to sleep me rest a little steer and I said tell you what

little steer and I said tell you what

little steer and I said tell you what end of the day when we’re all done I’m

end of the day when we’re all done I’m

end of the day when we’re all done I’m all yours buddy I’ll I’ll photograph you

all yours buddy I’ll I’ll photograph you

all yours buddy I’ll I’ll photograph you the whole time

the whole time

the whole time so end of the day he walks over to this

so end of the day he walks over to this

so end of the day he walks over to this little calf I said okay we’re ready to

little calf I said okay we’re ready to

little calf I said okay we’re ready to go but he walks over his cab and he

go but he walks over his cab and he

go but he walks over his cab and he wrestled and he wrestled and he wrestled

wrestled and he wrestled and he wrestled

wrestled and he wrestled and he wrestled and this calf never moved a millimeter

and this calf never moved a millimeter

and this calf never moved a millimeter was just like that you know and I this

was just like that you know and I this

was just like that you know and I this is picture what’s him all sweaty after

is picture what’s him all sweaty after

is picture what’s him all sweaty after he’d tried and I said to him well does

he’d tried and I said to him well does

he’d tried and I said to him well does your little calf have a name he said to

your little calf have a name he said to

your little calf have a name he said to Europe name is Michelangelo I thought

Europe name is Michelangelo I thought

Europe name is Michelangelo I thought this is extremely cool out here in the

this is extremely cool out here in the

this is extremely cool out here in the middle of nowhere he names his calf for

middle of nowhere he names his calf for

middle of nowhere he names his calf for one of the finest artists who’s ever

one of the finest artists who’s ever

one of the finest artists who’s ever lived he said I got some other ones back

lived he said I got some other ones back

lived he said I got some other ones back at the barn name for the other Ninja

at the barn name for the other Ninja

at the barn name for the other Ninja Turtles people are funny somewhere along

Turtles people are funny somewhere along

Turtles people are funny somewhere along the way about a decade into this job I

the way about a decade into this job I

the way about a decade into this job I met this guy this is my husband Don and

met this guy this is my husband Don and

met this guy this is my husband Don and he was a writer here and I was a

he was a writer here and I was a

he was a writer here and I was a photographer and eventually we tripped

photographer and eventually we tripped

photographer and eventually we tripped over each other in really fast we were

over each other in really fast we were

over each other in really fast we were married and we had the first one and

married and we had the first one and

married and we had the first one and then we had the second one and you know

then we had the second one and you know

then we had the second one and you know fortunately Don and I we were a little

fortunately Don and I we were a little

fortunately Don and I we were a little bit older when we got married and we

bit older when we got married and we

bit older when we got married and we really talked about how to make this

really talked about how to make this

really talked about how to make this work because we wanted to have a family

work because we wanted to have a family

work because we wanted to have a family and we didn’t want we didn’t want to

and we didn’t want we didn’t want to

and we didn’t want we didn’t want to mess it up I guess and so we decided we

mess it up I guess and so we decided we

mess it up I guess and so we decided we needed to set some boundaries so that

needed to set some boundaries so that

needed to set some boundaries so that you know in this business you can just

you know in this business you can just

you know in this business you can just get constantly have opportunities to

get constantly have opportunities to

get constantly have opportunities to wonderful things so it’s really hard to

wonderful things so it’s really hard to

wonderful things so it’s really hard to say no so we decided to set up some

say no so we decided to set up some

say no so we decided to set up some boundaries and we did and I decided

boundaries and we did and I decided

boundaries and we did and I decided anything that took me away for more than

anything that took me away for more than

anything that took me away for more than two weeks I would take the kids with me

two weeks I would take the kids with me

two weeks I would take the kids with me and in Don decided he would never be

and in Don decided he would never be

and in Don decided he would never be away from them for more than a month and

away from them for more than a month and

away from them for more than a month and that’s what we did

that’s what we did

that’s what we did so the traveling belts

so the traveling belts

so the traveling belts headed out all over the world the kids

headed out all over the world the kids

headed out all over the world the kids have both been to every continent except

have both been to every continent except

have both been to every continent except Antarctica and I really want to take

Antarctica and I really want to take

Antarctica and I really want to take them there this is in the Galapagos

them there this is in the Galapagos

them there this is in the Galapagos Islands Charlie’s favorite place on

Islands Charlie’s favorite place on

Islands Charlie’s favorite place on earth I think this is Chinese opera this

earth I think this is Chinese opera this

earth I think this is Chinese opera this is a New Zealand and when we traveled we

is a New Zealand and when we traveled we

is a New Zealand and when we traveled we never stayed in hotels we all it was

never stayed in hotels we all it was

never stayed in hotels we all it was cheaper and way better for the kids to

cheaper and way better for the kids to

cheaper and way better for the kids to stay in neighborhoods in apartment on a

stay in neighborhoods in apartment on a

stay in neighborhoods in apartment on a beach house we lived on a kibbutz once

beach house we lived on a kibbutz once

beach house we lived on a kibbutz once and they just became fantastic travelers

and they just became fantastic travelers

and they just became fantastic travelers I think I was really lucky but we also

I think I was really lucky but we also

I think I was really lucky but we also did just really simple basic things to

did just really simple basic things to

did just really simple basic things to make sure that they loved traveling you

make sure that they loved traveling you

make sure that they loved traveling you know I just they were always comfortable

know I just they were always comfortable

know I just they were always comfortable they always had their stuff they were

they always had their stuff they were

they always had their stuff they were never just dressed about things and

never just dressed about things and

never just dressed about things and there was a lot of bribery involved also

there was a lot of bribery involved also

there was a lot of bribery involved also and you know they’re great travellers to

and you know they’re great travellers to

and you know they’re great travellers to this day they’re incredibly flexible and

this day they’re incredibly flexible and

this day they’re incredibly flexible and whether we were in you know Europe or in

whether we were in you know Europe or in

whether we were in you know Europe or in the Middle East they just hunkered in

the Middle East they just hunkered in

the Middle East they just hunkered in there like gypsies and join the other

there like gypsies and join the other

there like gypsies and join the other children this is South America Canada

Britain Papua New Guinea

Britain Papua New Guinea I have this thing for British man I’m

I have this thing for British man I’m

I have this thing for British man I’m gonna confess it right now I mean I

gonna confess it right now I mean I

gonna confess it right now I mean I married one see but I just find British

married one see but I just find British

married one see but I just find British men delightful and and I’ve worked on a

men delightful and and I’ve worked on a

men delightful and and I’ve worked on a couple different projects in Britain and

couple different projects in Britain and

couple different projects in Britain and Ireland and this is an Irish farmer Mr

Ireland and this is an Irish farmer Mr

Ireland and this is an Irish farmer Mr O’Sullivan and this has taken the day

O’Sullivan and this has taken the day

O’Sullivan and this has taken the day that his 12th child came home from the

that his 12th child came home from the

that his 12th child came home from the hospital that’s number 11 on his back

hospital that’s number 11 on his back

hospital that’s number 11 on his back but look at the character there you know

but look at the character there you know

but look at the character there you know I love that that Brits are hardworking

I love that that Brits are hardworking

I love that that Brits are hardworking and have a great sense of humor and

and have a great sense of humor and

and have a great sense of humor and they’re they enjoy bad weather I’m from

they’re they enjoy bad weather I’m from

they’re they enjoy bad weather I’m from Minnesota you know

Minnesota you know

Minnesota you know and they got a sense of humor too this

and they got a sense of humor too this

and they got a sense of humor too this is the Calder Valley Mouse Club and it

is the Calder Valley Mouse Club and it

is the Calder Valley Mouse Club and it is that you know a lot of people say

is that you know a lot of people say

is that you know a lot of people say well how do you research your stories

well how do you research your stories

well how do you research your stories you know well you know it is not much of

you know well you know it is not much of

you know well you know it is not much of it is done in a library or online for me

it is done in a library or online for me

it is done in a library or online for me some of it I mean depends on on the

some of it I mean depends on on the

some of it I mean depends on on the subject matter but but you never stop

subject matter but but you never stop

subject matter but but you never stop researching so I was in a little tiny

researching so I was in a little tiny

researching so I was in a little tiny cafe in northern England and I was

cafe in northern England and I was

cafe in northern England and I was having lunch and so I was reading the

having lunch and so I was reading the

having lunch and so I was reading the bulletin board because I read everything

bulletin board because I read everything

bulletin board because I read everything and talked to everybody

and talked to everybody

and talked to everybody and there was literally a little recipe

and there was literally a little recipe

and there was literally a little recipe card that said on it there will be a

card that said on it there will be a

card that said on it there will be a meeting of the Calder Valley Mouse Club

meeting of the Calder Valley Mouse Club

meeting of the Calder Valley Mouse Club at 10:00 a.m. on Wednesday so I went and

at 10:00 a.m. on Wednesday so I went and

at 10:00 a.m. on Wednesday so I went and it’s just so quintessentially British

it’s just so quintessentially British

it’s just so quintessentially British these guys raised mice in their back

these guys raised mice in their back

these guys raised mice in their back garden and then they have little shows

garden and then they have little shows

garden and then they have little shows and you’re looking at a champ there

and you’re looking at a champ there

and you’re looking at a champ there because look at that tail and check out

because look at that tail and check out

because look at that tail and check out those spot this is an Italy and this

those spot this is an Italy and this

those spot this is an Italy and this adorable woman I was in a cemetery

adorable woman I was in a cemetery

adorable woman I was in a cemetery photographing and I noticed her she had

photographing and I noticed her she had

photographing and I noticed her she had her little blue detergent bottle filled

her little blue detergent bottle filled

her little blue detergent bottle filled with water and she was walking around

with water and she was walking around

with water and she was walking around watering her friend’s flowers and I

watering her friend’s flowers and I

watering her friend’s flowers and I loved that there were all these pictures

loved that there were all these pictures

loved that there were all these pictures on the tombs and where people were kind

on the tombs and where people were kind

on the tombs and where people were kind of buried in drawers I thought that was

of buried in drawers I thought that was

of buried in drawers I thought that was so cool so at one point she came near to

so cool so at one point she came near to

so cool so at one point she came near to me and I I motioned her over and I said

me and I I motioned her over and I said

me and I I motioned her over and I said in my appallingly bad Italian you know

in my appallingly bad Italian you know

in my appallingly bad Italian you know could I take your picture

could I take your picture

could I take your picture and she nodded and she walked over to

and she nodded and she walked over to

and she nodded and she walked over to these two empty drawers sat down her

these two empty drawers sat down her

these two empty drawers sat down her detergent file and assumed his post and

detergent file and assumed his post and

detergent file and assumed his post and I couldn’t believe my little guy so I

I couldn’t believe my little guy so I

I couldn’t believe my little guy so I was snapping away and then afterward she

was snapping away and then afterward she

was snapping away and then afterward she came up to me and she said in Italian

came up to me and she said in Italian

came up to me and she said in Italian and I finally understood her to be

and I finally understood her to be

and I finally understood her to be saying could you send me this picture

saying could you send me this picture

saying could you send me this picture for my grave which explains suppose she

for my grave which explains suppose she

for my grave which explains suppose she wanted to look like an angel those days

wanted to look like an angel those days

wanted to look like an angel those days you just don’t forget yeah this is my

you just don’t forget yeah this is my

you just don’t forget yeah this is my family we spent about five years on and

family we spent about five years on and

family we spent about five years on and off working in the Middle East when the

off working in the Middle East when the

off working in the Middle East when the kids were growing up and it’s probably

kids were growing up and it’s probably

kids were growing up and it’s probably the favorite chapter as a family that’s

the favorite chapter as a family that’s

the favorite chapter as a family that’s Charlie on the right down in the middle

Charlie on the right down in the middle

Charlie on the right down in the middle Lily on the left and this was taken in

Lily on the left and this was taken in

Lily on the left and this was taken in the Kingdom of Jordan which I think if

the Kingdom of Jordan which I think if

the Kingdom of Jordan which I think if you asked anybody in our family where

you asked anybody in our family where

you asked anybody in our family where their favorite places we’ve ever worked

their favorite places we’ve ever worked

their favorite places we’ve ever worked we would all say Jordan

we would all say Jordan

we would all say Jordan it is just a magnificent country this is

it is just a magnificent country this is

it is just a magnificent country this is in Petra see you right there see that

in Petra see you right there see that

in Petra see you right there see that little disc right there in this

little disc right there in this

little disc right there in this beautiful building there it is this is

beautiful building there it is this is

beautiful building there it is this is an amazed Petra is an amazing ancient

an amazed Petra is an amazing ancient

an amazed Petra is an amazing ancient city where the entire city which at one

city where the entire city which at one

city where the entire city which at one time numbered I believe thirty thousand

time numbered I believe thirty thousand

time numbered I believe thirty thousand was carved from the sandstone of Petra

was carved from the sandstone of Petra

was carved from the sandstone of Petra and it’s still there and it’s still

and it’s still there and it’s still

and it’s still there and it’s still beautiful it’s one of the loveliest

beautiful it’s one of the loveliest

beautiful it’s one of the loveliest trips you could ever make and it’s much

trips you could ever make and it’s much

trips you could ever make and it’s much safer than Washington DC so people ask

safer than Washington DC so people ask

safer than Washington DC so people ask me all the time you know were you

me all the time you know were you

me all the time you know were you nervous taking your kids to the Middle

nervous taking your kids to the Middle

nervous taking your kids to the Middle East and you know I did my homework I

East and you know I did my homework I

East and you know I did my homework I these are my kids I would never take

these are my kids I would never take

these are my kids I would never take them someplace dangerous and I can tell

them someplace dangerous and I can tell

them someplace dangerous and I can tell you that apart from you know individual

you that apart from you know individual

you that apart from you know individual horrible things like are is happening in

horrible things like are is happening in

horrible things like are is happening in Iraq and the Middle East is a safe and

Iraq and the Middle East is a safe and

Iraq and the Middle East is a safe and beautiful place and boy do they need

beautiful place and boy do they need

beautiful place and boy do they need visitors to understand and bring back

visitors to understand and bring back

visitors to understand and bring back the real knowledge of the Arab world

the real knowledge of the Arab world

the real knowledge of the Arab world this was a story I did on Lawrence of

this was a story I did on Lawrence of

this was a story I did on Lawrence of Arabia and I wanted you know Lawrence

Arabia and I wanted you know Lawrence

Arabia and I wanted you know Lawrence traveled in the desert with Bedouins and

traveled in the desert with Bedouins and

traveled in the desert with Bedouins and I wanted to go out with the Bedouin and

I wanted to go out with the Bedouin and

I wanted to go out with the Bedouin and camp and go on the Bedouin police patrol

camp and go on the Bedouin police patrol

camp and go on the Bedouin police patrol but they were very reluctant I couldn’t

but they were very reluctant I couldn’t

but they were very reluctant I couldn’t quite understand what the problem was

quite understand what the problem was

quite understand what the problem was and we actually ended up going through

and we actually ended up going through

and we actually ended up going through King Hussein’s office because they were

King Hussein’s office because they were

King Hussein’s office because they were very very reluctant about it and I was

very very reluctant about it and I was

very very reluctant about it and I was trying to understand but then they were

trying to understand but then they were

trying to understand but then they were you know they were told please take her

you know they were told please take her

you know they were told please take her in and there were three guys and before

in and there were three guys and before

in and there were three guys and before we left to go out in the desert for a

we left to go out in the desert for a

we left to go out in the desert for a few days they spoke no English but first

few days they spoke no English but first

few days they spoke no English but first one came up to me and a very rehearsed

one came up to me and a very rehearsed

one came up to me and a very rehearsed English said you are our mother and I

English said you are our mother and I

English said you are our mother and I and I said thank you and then the second

and I said thank you and then the second

and I said thank you and then the second the second Bedouin policeman came up and

the second Bedouin policeman came up and

the second Bedouin policeman came up and said exactly the same thing you are our

said exactly the same thing you are our

said exactly the same thing you are our mother and at that point what I realized

mother and at that point what I realized

mother and at that point what I realized was they thought I was terrified because

was they thought I was terrified because

was they thought I was terrified because in their culture women don’t go out into

in their culture women don’t go out into

in their culture women don’t go out into the desert with a

the desert with a

the desert with a men and they were comforting me and

men and they were comforting me and

men and they were comforting me and saying we will treat you the way we

saying we will treat you the way we

saying we will treat you the way we would treat our mother and they did its

would treat our mother and they did its

would treat our mother and they did its magic there they are

magic there they are

magic there they are my guys my sons would make me the best

my guys my sons would make me the best

my guys my sons would make me the best blanket and you know the first cup of

blanket and you know the first cup of

blanket and you know the first cup of tea and a really nice camel and it was

tea and a really nice camel and it was

tea and a really nice camel and it was great this is Charlie on the right and I

great this is Charlie on the right and I

great this is Charlie on the right and I love this picture because you could take

love this picture because you could take

love this picture because you could take a look at my son’s face you know he we

a look at my son’s face you know he we

a look at my son’s face you know he we were at a Bedouins wedding and a big

were at a Bedouins wedding and a big

were at a Bedouins wedding and a big dust storm came up and Don grabbed Lilly

dust storm came up and Don grabbed Lilly

dust storm came up and Don grabbed Lilly and I looked over in Hamoudi our friend

and I looked over in Hamoudi our friend

and I looked over in Hamoudi our friend hill Modi had grabbed Charlie and

hill Modi had grabbed Charlie and

hill Modi had grabbed Charlie and wrapped him up in a cofee and headed out

wrapped him up in a cofee and headed out

wrapped him up in a cofee and headed out and I was trying to hide cameras and

and I was trying to hide cameras and

and I was trying to hide cameras and when the dust settled this is the scene

when the dust settled this is the scene

when the dust settled this is the scene I found and you know honestly if you

I found and you know honestly if you

I found and you know honestly if you look at Hamoudi he you know he could be

look at Hamoudi he you know he could be

look at Hamoudi he you know he could be central casting for you know our highly

central casting for you know our highly

central casting for you know our highly prejudiced terrorist films and and yet

prejudiced terrorist films and and yet

prejudiced terrorist films and and yet look at who he really is and you know I

look at who he really is and you know I

look at who he really is and you know I look at this picture of my son and my

look at this picture of my son and my

look at this picture of my son and my friend and to me it reveals the culture

friend and to me it reveals the culture

friend and to me it reveals the culture that I know the most welcoming culture

that I know the most welcoming culture

that I know the most welcoming culture on earth and so of course it’s very hard

on earth and so of course it’s very hard

on earth and so of course it’s very hard for me to see how much fear has been you

for me to see how much fear has been you

for me to see how much fear has been you know forced upon us

know forced upon us

know forced upon us there’s the camel that’s in the boat

there’s the camel that’s in the boat

there’s the camel that’s in the boat there it is these are the kids I mean

there it is these are the kids I mean

there it is these are the kids I mean they had the time of their lives you

they had the time of their lives you

they had the time of their lives you know their milk and goats are running

know their milk and goats are running

know their milk and goats are running around rocks are riding donkeys and

around rocks are riding donkeys and

around rocks are riding donkeys and camels and and this is Lily learning to

camels and and this is Lily learning to

camels and and this is Lily learning to write in Arabic the way the Bedouin kids

write in Arabic the way the Bedouin kids

write in Arabic the way the Bedouin kids did with a stick that’s got a charcoal

did with a stick that’s got a charcoal

did with a stick that’s got a charcoal tip and writing on a rock and mock

tip and writing on a rock and mock

tip and writing on a rock and mock Buddhist teaching her to write her name

Buddhist teaching her to write her name

Buddhist teaching her to write her name did a lot of work in Israel this is in

did a lot of work in Israel this is in

did a lot of work in Israel this is in Jerusalem at the Mount of Olives Jewish

Jerusalem at the Mount of Olives Jewish

Jerusalem at the Mount of Olives Jewish man Nava Ning on a very special day this

man Nava Ning on a very special day this

man Nava Ning on a very special day this is the Muslim quarter of the old city in

is the Muslim quarter of the old city in

is the Muslim quarter of the old city in the old city is just amazing it’s just

the old city is just amazing it’s just

the old city is just amazing it’s just an amazing place and you go down these

an amazing place and you go down these

an amazing place and you go down these skinny little alleys and you think

skinny little alleys and you think

skinny little alleys and you think there’s nothing there but then somebody

there’s nothing there but then somebody

there’s nothing there but then somebody takes you to their their home you go

takes you to their their home you go

takes you to their their home you go into a little doorway this there’s a

into a little doorway this there’s a

into a little doorway this there’s a whole home in there there’s look it’s

whole home in there there’s look it’s

whole home in there there’s look it’s just a wonderful wonderful city this is

just a wonderful wonderful city this is

just a wonderful wonderful city this is a very traditional Jewish

a very traditional Jewish

a very traditional Jewish part of town and it it you know it looks

part of town and it it you know it looks

part of town and it it you know it looks like it could be right out of a European

like it could be right out of a European

like it could be right out of a European shadow and life is just wonderful to

shadow and life is just wonderful to

shadow and life is just wonderful to observe a you know I I wish I had an

observe a you know I I wish I had an

observe a you know I I wish I had an invisibility cloak when the kids and I

invisibility cloak when the kids and I

invisibility cloak when the kids and I used to wonder about which superpower we

used to wonder about which superpower we

used to wonder about which superpower we wanted to have I always said I want the

wanted to have I always said I want the

wanted to have I always said I want the invisibility cloak because just to see

invisibility cloak because just to see

invisibility cloak because just to see life going on you know in Israel you see

life going on you know in Israel you see

life going on you know in Israel you see side-by-side religion and politics all

side-by-side religion and politics all

side-by-side religion and politics all the time but it’s actually kind of hard

the time but it’s actually kind of hard

the time but it’s actually kind of hard to get into a into a single frame the

to get into a into a single frame the

to get into a into a single frame the comfort of it you know and then you see

comfort of it you know and then you see

comfort of it you know and then you see tragedy you know this was in a town we

tragedy you know this was in a town we

tragedy you know this was in a town we loved we’re actually there was some real

loved we’re actually there was some real

loved we’re actually there was some real cooperation between the Palestinians and

cooperation between the Palestinians and

cooperation between the Palestinians and the Israelis and then somebody blew up a

the Israelis and then somebody blew up a

the Israelis and then somebody blew up a bus and this is the family of the driver

bus and this is the family of the driver

bus and this is the family of the driver that breaks your heart and yet

that breaks your heart and yet

that breaks your heart and yet everywhere you see this wonderful

everywhere you see this wonderful

everywhere you see this wonderful commitment to faith and you see that

commitment to faith and you see that

commitment to faith and you see that people come from all over the world

people come from all over the world

people come from all over the world these are Christians from Brazil the

these are Christians from Brazil the

these are Christians from Brazil the whole world seems sort of at least the

whole world seems sort of at least the

whole world seems sort of at least the monotheistic part of the world is kind

monotheistic part of the world is kind

monotheistic part of the world is kind of invested in this little tiny place

of invested in this little tiny place

of invested in this little tiny place and I am Telling You you can stand on a

and I am Telling You you can stand on a

and I am Telling You you can stand on a hill in Galilee and you see Jordan and

hill in Galilee and you see Jordan and

hill in Galilee and you see Jordan and you see Syria and you see Lebanon right

you see Syria and you see Lebanon right

you see Syria and you see Lebanon right there it’s so tiny and yet the source of

there it’s so tiny and yet the source of

there it’s so tiny and yet the source of so much global angst this is a little

so much global angst this is a little

so much global angst this is a little Greek Orthodox woman point praying at

Greek Orthodox woman point praying at

Greek Orthodox woman point praying at the praetorium on Good Friday which is

the praetorium on Good Friday which is

the praetorium on Good Friday which is the holiest place for the Greek Orthodox

the holiest place for the Greek Orthodox

the holiest place for the Greek Orthodox the place where Christ was condemned to

the place where Christ was condemned to

the place where Christ was condemned to die and then it’s funny you turn around

die and then it’s funny you turn around

die and then it’s funny you turn around and it’s life this is I’m forum yeah

and it’s life this is I’m forum yeah

and it’s life this is I’m forum yeah little guys misbehaving

and the humanity I mean what I really

and the humanity I mean what I really what I hope I bring back is the humanity

what I hope I bring back is the humanity

what I hope I bring back is the humanity I just I really want to humanize any

I just I really want to humanize any

I just I really want to humanize any culture that I am lucky enough to be

culture that I am lucky enough to be

culture that I am lucky enough to be embedded with and that’s how you feeling

embedded with and that’s how you feeling

embedded with and that’s how you feeling it when you’re with working for

it when you’re with working for

it when you’re with working for Geographic you’re kind of embedded if

Geographic you’re kind of embedded if

Geographic you’re kind of embedded if you’re lucky this was a wonderful

you’re lucky this was a wonderful

you’re lucky this was a wonderful ceremony in northern Israel and Galilee

ceremony in northern Israel and Galilee

ceremony in northern Israel and Galilee very happy beautiful ceremony of

very happy beautiful ceremony of

very happy beautiful ceremony of bonfires followed by the day that the

bonfires followed by the day that the

bonfires followed by the day that the little Hasidic Jewish boys got their

little Hasidic Jewish boys got their

little Hasidic Jewish boys got their hair cut for the first time and I really

hair cut for the first time and I really

hair cut for the first time and I really wanted to go but it was gender specific

wanted to go but it was gender specific

wanted to go but it was gender specific and there was nothing my religious Fixer

and there was nothing my religious Fixer

and there was nothing my religious Fixer could do they just you know women

could do they just you know women

could do they just you know women couldn’t be where the action was and

couldn’t be where the action was and

couldn’t be where the action was and there’s a lot you know so many cultures

there’s a lot you know so many cultures

there’s a lot you know so many cultures are divided by gender and you just have

are divided by gender and you just have

are divided by gender and you just have to look at it not judgmentally but just

to look at it not judgmentally but just

to look at it not judgmentally but just like okay we got a problem here what do

like okay we got a problem here what do

like okay we got a problem here what do we do so when I realized that the answer

we do so when I realized that the answer

we do so when I realized that the answer was no I just turned to my religious

was no I just turned to my religious

was no I just turned to my religious advisor and I said so what if I went

advisor and I said so what if I went

advisor and I said so what if I went looking at so much like a girl and he

looking at so much like a girl and he

looking at so much like a girl and he said you know I love this idea so I just

said you know I love this idea so I just

said you know I love this idea so I just went to the barbershop and got all my

went to the barbershop and got all my

went to the barbershop and got all my hair cut off and I dressed in my

hair cut off and I dressed in my

hair cut off and I dressed in my husband’s clothes and I just went and I

husband’s clothes and I just went and I

husband’s clothes and I just went and I and said nothing but past as as a guy

and said nothing but past as as a guy

and said nothing but past as as a guy and was able to get the photographs and

and was able to get the photographs and

and was able to get the photographs and this is the next morning when the little

this is the next morning when the little

this is the next morning when the little boys are carried from rabbi to rabbi and

boys are carried from rabbi to rabbi and

boys are carried from rabbi to rabbi and the rabbi’s cut the cut their hair and

the rabbi’s cut the cut their hair and

the rabbi’s cut the cut their hair and you know cut a little lock of their hair

you know cut a little lock of their hair

you know cut a little lock of their hair and then give them the sweets and it’s

and then give them the sweets and it’s

and then give them the sweets and it’s just it’s just beautiful security in

just it’s just beautiful security in

just it’s just beautiful security in Israel is really a pain in the neck and

Israel is really a pain in the neck and

Israel is really a pain in the neck and I can’t tell you how much time you spend

I can’t tell you how much time you spend

I can’t tell you how much time you spend when you’re working over there just

when you’re working over there just

when you’re working over there just getting permission to photograph things

getting permission to photograph things

getting permission to photograph things and this was the final Friday prayer at

and this was the final Friday prayer at

and this was the final Friday prayer at the end of Ramadan at the Dome of the

the end of Ramadan at the Dome of the

the end of Ramadan at the Dome of the rock and the al-aqsa mosque and you know

rock and the al-aqsa mosque and you know

rock and the al-aqsa mosque and you know it’s really scary for the Israelis to

it’s really scary for the Israelis to

it’s really scary for the Israelis to know that two hundred thousand Muslims

know that two hundred thousand Muslims

know that two hundred thousand Muslims are going to be drooping through the old

are going to be drooping through the old

are going to be drooping through the old city and up to the Dome of the rock and

city and up to the Dome of the rock and

city and up to the Dome of the rock and I couldn’t get any permission except

I couldn’t get any permission except

I couldn’t get any permission except they said a military pilot could take me

they said a military pilot could take me

they said a military pilot could take me if I would fly no lower than six

if I would fly no lower than six

if I would fly no lower than six thousand feet well that’s all the access

thousand feet well that’s all the access

thousand feet well that’s all the access I had so I just took a really big limbs

I had so I just took a really big limbs

I had so I just took a really big limbs and did an aerial of it and you can just

and did an aerial of it and you can just

and did an aerial of it and you can just see this prayer that last 10 minutes and

see this prayer that last 10 minutes and

see this prayer that last 10 minutes and this many people are in perfect rows on

this many people are in perfect rows on

this many people are in perfect rows on their on their carpets being you know

their on their carpets being you know

their on their carpets being you know practicing their faith and it’s

practicing their faith and it’s

practicing their faith and it’s extremely moving I also wanted to be

extremely moving I also wanted to be

extremely moving I also wanted to be inside the Dome of the rock on the last

inside the Dome of the rock on the last

inside the Dome of the rock on the last Saturday the last morning of Ramadan

Saturday the last morning of Ramadan

Saturday the last morning of Ramadan went at sunrise Ramadan breaks and and

went at sunrise Ramadan breaks and and

went at sunrise Ramadan breaks and and there are women all inside the dome well

there are women all inside the dome well

there are women all inside the dome well I tried everybody for permission it just

I tried everybody for permission it just

I tried everybody for permission it just wasn’t going to happen so they let my

wasn’t going to happen so they let my

wasn’t going to happen so they let my last my last hope was the Imam of the

last my last hope was the Imam of the

last my last hope was the Imam of the mosque so I went to his home and he was

mosque so I went to his home and he was

mosque so I went to his home and he was busy seeing a lot of important guys but

busy seeing a lot of important guys but

busy seeing a lot of important guys but I heard some noise in the kitchen so I

I heard some noise in the kitchen so I

I heard some noise in the kitchen so I went in and his wife and his daughters

went in and his wife and his daughters

went in and his wife and his daughters were making dinner so I just went in and

were making dinner so I just went in and

were making dinner so I just went in and started chopping vegetables and talking

started chopping vegetables and talking

started chopping vegetables and talking to them and they invited me to stay for

to them and they invited me to stay for

to them and they invited me to stay for dinner and then the Imam came and sat

dinner and then the Imam came and sat

dinner and then the Imam came and sat down with us and this lovely charming

down with us and this lovely charming

down with us and this lovely charming highly educated family we had a really

highly educated family we had a really

highly educated family we had a really nice time and at the end of dinner I

nice time and at the end of dinner I

nice time and at the end of dinner I said you know I asked his permission to

said you know I asked his permission to

said you know I asked his permission to be inside the dome and he said no

be inside the dome and he said no

be inside the dome and he said no absolutely not

absolutely not

absolutely not and so I I went back to my apartment a

and so I I went back to my apartment a

and so I I went back to my apartment a little you know downcast and about 4

little you know downcast and about 4

little you know downcast and about 4 o’clock in the morning a woman came to

o’clock in the morning a woman came to

o’clock in the morning a woman came to my apartment and knocked on the door and

my apartment and knocked on the door and

my apartment and knocked on the door and said dress modestly bring one camera and

said dress modestly bring one camera and

said dress modestly bring one camera and I followed her and she created a

I followed her and she created a

I followed her and she created a diversion while I slid inside and a

diversion while I slid inside and a

diversion while I slid inside and a group of women welcomed me into where

group of women welcomed me into where

group of women welcomed me into where they were praying because the Imam had

they were praying because the Imam had

they were praying because the Imam had said no but his wife said yes I really

said no but his wife said yes I really

said no but his wife said yes I really think it’s a great advantage to be a

think it’s a great advantage to be a

think it’s a great advantage to be a woman in this job I think people assume

woman in this job I think people assume

woman in this job I think people assume that it’s a disadvantage and I just

that it’s a disadvantage and I just

that it’s a disadvantage and I just think you’re less threatening you’re

think you’re less threatening you’re

think you’re less threatening you’re more of an aberration and most

more of an aberration and most

more of an aberration and most importantly for me in in gender divided

importantly for me in in gender divided

importantly for me in in gender divided cultures you get to be with the girls

cultures you get to be with the girls

cultures you get to be with the girls and they are having a good time and

and they are having a good time and

and they are having a good time and they’re not covered very much this is up

they’re not covered very much this is up

they’re not covered very much this is up on the Syrian border a place called the

on the Syrian border a place called the

on the Syrian border a place called the shouting Mountain where when these you

shouting Mountain where when these you

shouting Mountain where when these you know when Wars happen and artificial

know when Wars happen and artificial

know when Wars happen and artificial fences are put up then people are

fences are put up then people are

fences are put up then people are divided so these Druze families were

divided so these Druze families were

divided so these Druze families were across from their neighbors and family

across from their neighbors and family

across from their neighbors and family and friends in Syria and they literally

and friends in Syria and they literally

and friends in Syria and they literally came with megaphones and

came with megaphones and

came with megaphones and macular x’ and stood and yelled back and

macular x’ and stood and yelled back and

macular x’ and stood and yelled back and forth to each other and caught up on the

forth to each other and caught up on the

forth to each other and caught up on the news it was wonderful

news it was wonderful

news it was wonderful this is a beautiful Bedouin woman and

this is a beautiful Bedouin woman and

this is a beautiful Bedouin woman and his hurt and we were at a wedding and

his hurt and we were at a wedding and

his hurt and we were at a wedding and her little boy came up to me and said

her little boy came up to me and said

her little boy came up to me and said would you photographed my mother she is

would you photographed my mother she is

would you photographed my mother she is so beautiful that cute I said absolutely

so beautiful that cute I said absolutely

so beautiful that cute I said absolutely and she is you know and she’s a classic

and she is you know and she’s a classic

and she is you know and she’s a classic Bedouin woman tough as nails and a heart

Bedouin woman tough as nails and a heart

Bedouin woman tough as nails and a heart of gold this was a Druze wedding and you

of gold this was a Druze wedding and you

of gold this was a Druze wedding and you know I asked a lot of questions when I’m

know I asked a lot of questions when I’m

know I asked a lot of questions when I’m gonna cover something and I was invited

gonna cover something and I was invited

gonna cover something and I was invited to this wedding so I found out that the

to this wedding so I found out that the

to this wedding so I found out that the bride would be at her dad’s house and

bride would be at her dad’s house and

bride would be at her dad’s house and that when she heard the groom coming

that when she heard the groom coming

that when she heard the groom coming because they play music and drums and

because they play music and drums and

because they play music and drums and things that she must burst into tears

things that she must burst into tears

things that she must burst into tears and cry hysterically in order to honor

and cry hysterically in order to honor

and cry hysterically in order to honor her father and to say I don’t want to

her father and to say I don’t want to

her father and to say I don’t want to leave dad you know and also as a sign of

leave dad you know and also as a sign of

leave dad you know and also as a sign of modesty that she had no interest in

modesty that she had no interest in

modesty that she had no interest in leaving with this other man and and sure

leaving with this other man and and sure

leaving with this other man and and sure enough first bang of a drum and she just

enough first bang of a drum and she just

enough first bang of a drum and she just cried her little eyes out and you can

cried her little eyes out and you can

cried her little eyes out and you can see her girlfriends are like is she

see her girlfriends are like is she

see her girlfriends are like is she doing a good enough job is this okay

doing a good enough job is this okay

doing a good enough job is this okay Graham is laughing you know because you

Graham is laughing you know because you

Graham is laughing you know because you know it’s this tradition but a really

know it’s this tradition but a really

know it’s this tradition but a really important tradition and this woman

important tradition and this woman

important tradition and this woman deserves an Emmy I am also really really

deserves an Emmy I am also really really

deserves an Emmy I am also really really fortunate in that I got to a point in my

fortunate in that I got to a point in my

fortunate in that I got to a point in my career where I was really comfortable

career where I was really comfortable

career where I was really comfortable with my work and wanted and I think a

with my work and wanted and I think a

with my work and wanted and I think a lot of us reached this point in our

lot of us reached this point in our

lot of us reached this point in our careers whatever our careers are but you

careers whatever our careers are but you

careers whatever our careers are but you get to a point where you want to give

get to a point where you want to give

get to a point where you want to give back a little bit you want to do

back a little bit you want to do

back a little bit you want to do something that adds depth to your life

something that adds depth to your life

something that adds depth to your life and meaning and that that you know

and meaning and that that you know

and meaning and that that you know honors something else besides yourself

honors something else besides yourself

honors something else besides yourself and so this is a project that I did a

and so this is a project that I did a

and so this is a project that I did a few years ago and this was sort of the

few years ago and this was sort of the

few years ago and this was sort of the at the beginning of me really deciding

at the beginning of me really deciding

at the beginning of me really deciding this was my priority in life

this was my priority in life

this was my priority in life and I was called last Dan and my

and I was called last Dan and my

and I was called last Dan and my girlfriend Barbara Kingsolver wrote

girlfriend Barbara Kingsolver wrote

girlfriend Barbara Kingsolver wrote these beautiful essays and it was an

these beautiful essays and it was an

these beautiful essays and it was an exhibit and a book and we through print

exhibit and a book and we through print

exhibit and a book and we through print sales we managed to raise by a quarter

sales we managed to raise by a quarter

sales we managed to raise by a quarter of a million dollars to help with

of a million dollars to help with

of a million dollars to help with grassroots conservation efforts in the

grassroots conservation efforts in the

grassroots conservation efforts in the United States and it’s so wonderful I

United States and it’s so wonderful I

United States and it’s so wonderful I mean don’t you love it when you

mean don’t you love it when you

mean don’t you love it when you take your job and you get to a point

take your job and you get to a point

take your job and you get to a point where you say actually what I do could

where you say actually what I do could

where you say actually what I do could make a little bit of a difference it was

make a little bit of a difference it was

make a little bit of a difference it was so fun watching this wood stork with

so fun watching this wood stork with

so fun watching this wood stork with this alligator because they did this

this alligator because they did this

this alligator because they did this little dance you know the alligator

little dance you know the alligator

little dance you know the alligator would move two inches the wood stork

would move two inches the wood stork

would move two inches the wood stork wood thickest back that you know the

wood thickest back that you know the

wood thickest back that you know the would get alligator go this way the wood

would get alligator go this way the wood

would get alligator go this way the wood sterk would get a little closer they it

sterk would get a little closer they it

sterk would get a little closer they it was choreography it was just amazing

was choreography it was just amazing

was choreography it was just amazing choreography of survival I also started

choreography of survival I also started

choreography of survival I also started working with my brother Bobby on

working with my brother Bobby on

working with my brother Bobby on projects for Habitat for Humanity and

projects for Habitat for Humanity and

projects for Habitat for Humanity and that led to some projects with

that led to some projects with

that led to some projects with international aid organizations under

international aid organizations under

international aid organizations under the umbrella of a wonderful organization

the umbrella of a wonderful organization

the umbrella of a wonderful organization called Church World Service and they are

called Church World Service and they are

called Church World Service and they are the fund raisers and then they partner

the fund raisers and then they partner

the fund raisers and then they partner with aid groups all over the world and

with aid groups all over the world and

with aid groups all over the world and what I love is that their focus is

what I love is that their focus is

what I love is that their focus is mainly on women and children so this is

mainly on women and children so this is

mainly on women and children so this is Uganda this is in Cambodia the day they

Uganda this is in Cambodia the day they

Uganda this is in Cambodia the day they got clean water you know the day that

got clean water you know the day that

got clean water you know the day that kept the well also in Cambodia my

kept the well also in Cambodia my

kept the well also in Cambodia my nephew’s here and he’s his mom is

nephew’s here and he’s his mom is

nephew’s here and he’s his mom is Cambodian see those family are are you

Cambodian see those family are are you

Cambodian see those family are are you sleeping Mexico in the maquiladoras so

sleeping Mexico in the maquiladoras so

sleeping Mexico in the maquiladoras so what what I do is every year I head out

what what I do is every year I head out

what what I do is every year I head out usually in the spring and I go to about

usually in the spring and I go to about

usually in the spring and I go to about 3 countries where people are having a

3 countries where people are having a

3 countries where people are having a hard time and and and I just like three

hard time and and and I just like three

hard time and and and I just like three days per country and you just go and see

days per country and you just go and see

days per country and you just go and see the amazing work that aid groups are

the amazing work that aid groups are

the amazing work that aid groups are doing I mean I go it’s kind of rough for

doing I mean I go it’s kind of rough for

doing I mean I go it’s kind of rough for a couple of days and then I go to leave

a couple of days and then I go to leave

a couple of days and then I go to leave and I think oh my gosh these wonderful

and I think oh my gosh these wonderful

and I think oh my gosh these wonderful people are here 24/7 for months and

people are here 24/7 for months and

people are here 24/7 for months and years at a time

years at a time

years at a time the Masai School in Kenya with his cane

the Masai School in Kenya with his cane

the Masai School in Kenya with his cane workers in the Dominican Republic and

workers in the Dominican Republic and

workers in the Dominican Republic and you know I remember early on in my

you know I remember early on in my

you know I remember early on in my career I was a little nervous I think

career I was a little nervous I think

career I was a little nervous I think women photographers were I remember I

women photographers were I remember I

women photographers were I remember I remember Jody Cobb saying you know I

remember Jody Cobb saying you know I

remember Jody Cobb saying you know I think they think we’re just going to

think they think we’re just going to

think they think we’re just going to take little pink pretty pictures and I

take little pink pretty pictures and I

take little pink pretty pictures and I do remember thinking actually really

do remember thinking actually really

do remember thinking actually really sort of you know saying I can photograph

sort of you know saying I can photograph

sort of you know saying I can photograph more than women and chilled

more than women and chilled

more than women and chilled and now it is my distinct privilege to

and now it is my distinct privilege to

and now it is my distinct privilege to spend time with photographing women and

spend time with photographing women and

spend time with photographing women and children because in most places they’re

children because in most places they’re

children because in most places they’re the people that need the help the most

the people that need the help the most

the people that need the help the most and it’s very freeing

and it’s very freeing

and it’s very freeing this is Hurricane Katrina and this was

this is Hurricane Katrina and this was

this is Hurricane Katrina and this was this little woman who who lost her home

this little woman who who lost her home

this little woman who who lost her home she wasn’t this was her 90th birthday

she wasn’t this was her 90th birthday

she wasn’t this was her 90th birthday and they were the guys who were working

and they were the guys who were working

and they were the guys who were working on her house brought her this cake and

on her house brought her this cake and

on her house brought her this cake and then there you can see one of them’s up

then there you can see one of them’s up

then there you can see one of them’s up on the roof fix it her roof this is also

on the roof fix it her roof this is also

on the roof fix it her roof this is also from Katrina just what happened to

from Katrina just what happened to

from Katrina just what happened to somebody’s photo albums it’s a great

somebody’s photo albums it’s a great

somebody’s photo albums it’s a great tragedy you know what happens when you

tragedy you know what happens when you

tragedy you know what happens when you marinate a city for about three weeks

marinate a city for about three weeks

marinate a city for about three weeks it’s just it’s so it’s one of the

it’s just it’s so it’s one of the

it’s just it’s so it’s one of the greatest tragedies I’ve ever seen in

greatest tragedies I’ve ever seen in

greatest tragedies I’ve ever seen in terms of you know challenging this was

terms of you know challenging this was

terms of you know challenging this was shot of a minister whose church was

shot of a minister whose church was

shot of a minister whose church was burned down in South Carolina and the

burned down in South Carolina and the

burned down in South Carolina and the only thing left was the baptismal font

only thing left was the baptismal font

only thing left was the baptismal font so that’s what he was standing on you

so that’s what he was standing on you

so that’s what he was standing on you can see back there where his church used

can see back there where his church used

can see back there where his church used to be and this organization was helping

to be and this organization was helping

to be and this organization was helping him build a new church this is in

him build a new church this is in

him build a new church this is in Honduras after a hurricane and a lot of

Honduras after a hurricane and a lot of

Honduras after a hurricane and a lot of people were coming for her health and

people were coming for her health and

people were coming for her health and clinical aid was in a horrible horrible

clinical aid was in a horrible horrible

clinical aid was in a horrible horrible refugee camp the saddest one I’ve ever

refugee camp the saddest one I’ve ever

refugee camp the saddest one I’ve ever seen I’ve spent a lot of time in refugee

seen I’ve spent a lot of time in refugee

seen I’ve spent a lot of time in refugee camps and they range from places that

camps and they range from places that

camps and they range from places that give people dignity and hope to really

give people dignity and hope to really

give people dignity and hope to really reduce tragedies and and this is up on

reduce tragedies and and this is up on

reduce tragedies and and this is up on the Sudanese border and it it’s a tragic

the Sudanese border and it it’s a tragic

the Sudanese border and it it’s a tragic place but about two years after I shot

place but about two years after I shot

place but about two years after I shot this picture because I was really

this picture because I was really

this picture because I was really worried about this woman and her

worried about this woman and her

worried about this woman and her children I was in Richmond Virginia and

children I was in Richmond Virginia and

children I was in Richmond Virginia and I was at a refugee office and I looked

I was at a refugee office and I looked

I was at a refugee office and I looked up on the wall and this picture which

up on the wall and this picture which

up on the wall and this picture which was made into a part of a calendar had

was made into a part of a calendar had

was made into a part of a calendar had been taken out and pinned on the wall

been taken out and pinned on the wall

been taken out and pinned on the wall and I said to the refugee guy boy that

and I said to the refugee guy boy that

and I said to the refugee guy boy that picture looks kind of familiar to me and

picture looks kind of familiar to me and

picture looks kind of familiar to me and he said yeah and she’s doing great and I

he said yeah and she’s doing great and I

he said yeah and she’s doing great and I said you know her he said oh yeah she’s

said you know her he said oh yeah she’s

said you know her he said oh yeah she’s one of they’re one of our families

one of they’re one of our families

one of they’re one of our families they’re all doing great and she works at

they’re all doing great and she works at

they’re all doing great and she works at Popeyes Chicken and her husband said you

Popeyes Chicken and her husband said you

Popeyes Chicken and her husband said you know at Home Depot and I just tell ya it

know at Home Depot and I just tell ya it

know at Home Depot and I just tell ya it just bowled me over

just bowled me over

just bowled me over because if I’ve ever been in a hopeless

because if I’ve ever been in a hopeless

because if I’ve ever been in a hopeless place this was it and they made it this

place this was it and they made it this

place this was it and they made it this is the best refugee camp I’ve ever been

is the best refugee camp I’ve ever been

is the best refugee camp I’ve ever been in this is a these are people who are on

in this is a these are people who are on

in this is a these are people who are on the Thai border with Burma and there’s

the Thai border with Burma and there’s

the Thai border with Burma and there’s been a civil war in Burma forever and

been a civil war in Burma forever and

been a civil war in Burma forever and there are a lot of Burmese refugees who

there are a lot of Burmese refugees who

there are a lot of Burmese refugees who come over but this wise aid organization

come over but this wise aid organization

come over but this wise aid organization said these people just need food that’s

said these people just need food that’s

said these people just need food that’s it they need a place to live in food and

it they need a place to live in food and

it they need a place to live in food and so they turned the entire camp over to

so they turned the entire camp over to

so they turned the entire camp over to the people and they had their chiefs in

the people and they had their chiefs in

the people and they had their chiefs in there and it was like villages there

there and it was like villages there

there and it was like villages there were no fences there was no security

were no fences there was no security

were no fences there was no security there was no and they just they were

there was no and they just they were

there was no and they just they were farming and they and food you know

farming and they and food you know

farming and they and food you know supplemental food was being brought into

supplemental food was being brought into

supplemental food was being brought into them and you can what a fat happy baby

them and you can what a fat happy baby

them and you can what a fat happy baby you know it works

recently I was in Pakistan and I’m gonna

recently I was in Pakistan and I’m gonna close with some pictures from there I

close with some pictures from there I

close with some pictures from there I went there because of the earthquake I

went there because of the earthquake I

went there because of the earthquake I went back after you know that they were

went back after you know that they were

went back after you know that they were closing the refugee camps and the people

closing the refugee camps and the people

closing the refugee camps and the people were trying to recover from it and I was

were trying to recover from it and I was

were trying to recover from it and I was just there for four days and I bounced

just there for four days and I bounced

just there for four days and I bounced all over Pakistan but I was so deeply

all over Pakistan but I was so deeply

all over Pakistan but I was so deeply touched by these people and I was you

touched by these people and I was you

touched by these people and I was you know what’s happening in Pakistan now is

know what’s happening in Pakistan now is

know what’s happening in Pakistan now is really heartbreaking but look at this

really heartbreaking but look at this

really heartbreaking but look at this little guy you know charlie you know you

little guy you know charlie you know you

little guy you know charlie you know you know how many times I said okay go brush

know how many times I said okay go brush

know how many times I said okay go brush your teeth and and this happens in a

your teeth and and this happens in a

your teeth and and this happens in a refugee camp also you know that the

refugee camp also you know that the

refugee camp also you know that the humanity and the the sort of common life

humanity and the the sort of common life

humanity and the the sort of common life force that we all have it’s really

force that we all have it’s really

force that we all have it’s really humbling and this was taken in a village

humbling and this was taken in a village

humbling and this was taken in a village at the end of nowhere

at the end of nowhere

at the end of nowhere and we bounced along in a truck without

and we bounced along in a truck without

and we bounced along in a truck without roads I mean we we left a road and six

roads I mean we we left a road and six

roads I mean we we left a road and six hours later we were still bouncing along

hours later we were still bouncing along

hours later we were still bouncing along in the desert trying to get out to these

in the desert trying to get out to these

in the desert trying to get out to these some of these aid projects and we were

some of these aid projects and we were

some of these aid projects and we were so far out that there was no way we

so far out that there was no way we

so far out that there was no way we would ever get back for any kind of

would ever get back for any kind of

would ever get back for any kind of accommodation or anything so we were

accommodation or anything so we were

accommodation or anything so we were pretty much at the mercy of the

pretty much at the mercy of the

pretty much at the mercy of the villagers and in this little tiny

villagers and in this little tiny

villagers and in this little tiny villager first of all they had nothing

villager first of all they had nothing

villager first of all they had nothing and these women looked so beautiful

and these women looked so beautiful

and these women looked so beautiful and here I was in like these khaki pants

and here I was in like these khaki pants

and here I was in like these khaki pants and

and

and is bad shirt and I’m trying to be modest

is bad shirt and I’m trying to be modest

is bad shirt and I’m trying to be modest I got a horrible scarf on and and and

I got a horrible scarf on and and and

I got a horrible scarf on and and and they all just had this incredible grace

they all just had this incredible grace

they all just had this incredible grace and beauty about them and they were fun

and beauty about them and they were fun

and beauty about them and they were fun and you know after a while I was with a

and you know after a while I was with a

and you know after a while I was with a guide and she and I sat down we were

guide and she and I sat down we were

guide and she and I sat down we were cooking around the fire and finally the

cooking around the fire and finally the

cooking around the fire and finally the the women started laughing hysterically

the women started laughing hysterically

the women started laughing hysterically and I said okay what come on what and

and I said okay what come on what and

and I said okay what come on what and and that she said well they want to know

and that she said well they want to know

and that she said well they want to know if you’re a man or a woman because I

if you’re a man or a woman because I

if you’re a man or a woman because I look so awful and I said so I grabbed my

look so awful and I said so I grabbed my

look so awful and I said so I grabbed my breasts I said and then I you know I

breasts I said and then I you know I

breasts I said and then I you know I pulled out a picture and showed them a

pulled out a picture and showed them a

pulled out a picture and showed them a picture of my children and and then they

picture of my children and and then they

picture of my children and and then they laughed really funny because they just

laughed really funny because they just

laughed really funny because they just thought it was hysterical that any man

thought it was hysterical that any man

thought it was hysterical that any man would have me you know but that night

would have me you know but that night

would have me you know but that night after they fed us and people who have

after they fed us and people who have

after they fed us and people who have nothing give everything it’s just

nothing give everything it’s just

nothing give everything it’s just extraordinary they fed us and and they

extraordinary they fed us and and they

extraordinary they fed us and and they pulled some cots out for us to sleep

pulled some cots out for us to sleep

pulled some cots out for us to sleep outside in the desert and at one point

outside in the desert and at one point

outside in the desert and at one point my guide said they want to know if you

my guide said they want to know if you

my guide said they want to know if you would like music and I said I would love

would like music and I said I would love

would like music and I said I would love music and so the kids are all up on the

music and so the kids are all up on the

music and so the kids are all up on the bed with us you know and this little

bed with us you know and this little

bed with us you know and this little parade of man about eight men came in

parade of man about eight men came in

parade of man about eight men came in with handmade instruments and they sat

with handmade instruments and they sat

with handmade instruments and they sat down all around our beds and they

down all around our beds and they

down all around our beds and they started playing traditional music until

started playing traditional music until

started playing traditional music until we fell asleep under an unbelievable sky

we fell asleep under an unbelievable sky

we fell asleep under an unbelievable sky and I you know is one of those things I

and I you know is one of those things I

and I you know is one of those things I get to do that make life worth living

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