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Smart Tips for Building a Business in 2018 ft. @SKellyCEO


what’s up everybody welcome to another

what’s up everybody welcome to another YouTube hangout super excited to be here

YouTube hangout super excited to be here

YouTube hangout super excited to be here I have my friend Stephen Kelly back with

I have my friend Stephen Kelly back with

I have my friend Stephen Kelly back with me for our last hangout of 2017 and

me for our last hangout of 2017 and

me for our last hangout of 2017 and today we’re going to be talking about

today we’re going to be talking about

today we’re going to be talking about smart tips for building your business in

smart tips for building your business in

smart tips for building your business in 2018 Stephen welcome aboard great to be

2018 Stephen welcome aboard great to be

2018 Stephen welcome aboard great to be here again Evan for the last show of the

here again Evan for the last show of the

here again Evan for the last show of the year

year

year Stephen is all decked out in his

Stephen is all decked out in his

Stephen is all decked out in his Christmas attire ready to kick us off

Christmas attire ready to kick us off

Christmas attire ready to kick us off he’s got the cufflinks and he’s got the

he’s got the cufflinks and he’s got the

he’s got the cufflinks and he’s got the socks

socks

socks luckily no Curry’s okay so it’s that

luckily no Curry’s okay so it’s that

luckily no Curry’s okay so it’s that time for those for those of you before

time for those for those of you before

time for those for those of you before we go and kind of get started we’ve

we go and kind of get started we’ve

we go and kind of get started we’ve celebrated a Merry Christmas and for

celebrated a Merry Christmas and for

celebrated a Merry Christmas and for those of you don’t is Happy Holidays but

those of you don’t is Happy Holidays but

those of you don’t is Happy Holidays but this is and the good news is I know Evan

this is and the good news is I know Evan

this is and the good news is I know Evan Carmichael is on this guy’s good list

Carmichael is on this guy’s good list

Carmichael is on this guy’s good list all year long so he’s on Santa’s super

all year long so he’s on Santa’s super

all year long so he’s on Santa’s super good list

good list

good list all right see we putting the good words

all right see we putting the good words

all right see we putting the good words for me I love it I appreciate it

for me I love it I appreciate it

for me I love it I appreciate it cool well you know my favorite part is

cool well you know my favorite part is

cool well you know my favorite part is always hearing the Stephen Kelly quotes

always hearing the Stephen Kelly quotes

always hearing the Stephen Kelly quotes kicking us off I know you’ve got a few

kicking us off I know you’ve got a few

kicking us off I know you’ve got a few prepared what do you have for us this

prepared what do you have for us this

prepared what do you have for us this month we got a few we got a few from

month we got a few we got a few from

month we got a few we got a few from esteemed heroes and a couple of my own

esteemed heroes and a couple of my own

esteemed heroes and a couple of my own one so starting with our Peter Drucker

one so starting with our Peter Drucker

one so starting with our Peter Drucker who’s obviously economist author manager

who’s obviously economist author manager

who’s obviously economist author manager guru the best way to predict the future

guru the best way to predict the future

guru the best way to predict the future is to invent it second one from

is to invent it second one from

is to invent it second one from obviously a great American industrialist

obviously a great American industrialist

obviously a great American industrialist Henry Ford

Henry Ford

Henry Ford vision without execution is just

vision without execution is just

vision without execution is just hallucination and then someone from or

hallucination and then someone from or

hallucination and then someone from or Princeton down in Pennsylvania Albert

Princeton down in Pennsylvania Albert

Princeton down in Pennsylvania Albert Einstein logic will take you from A to B

Einstein logic will take you from A to B

Einstein logic will take you from A to B imagination will take you everywhere and

imagination will take you everywhere and

imagination will take you everywhere and then someone from Shark Tank Barbara

then someone from Shark Tank Barbara

then someone from Shark Tank Barbara Corcoran never underestimate the power

Corcoran never underestimate the power

Corcoran never underestimate the power of your own instinct and then a kind of

of your own instinct and then a kind of

of your own instinct and then a kind of triple whammy of quotes from Stephen

triple whammy of quotes from Stephen

triple whammy of quotes from Stephen Kelly yes first of all two entrepreneurs

Kelly yes first of all two entrepreneurs

Kelly yes first of all two entrepreneurs have the vision to see what others don’t

have the vision to see what others don’t

have the vision to see what others don’t second one no matter what the political

second one no matter what the political

second one no matter what the political or social climate entrepreneurs will

or social climate entrepreneurs will

or social climate entrepreneurs will always see opportunity and the third one

always see opportunity and the third one

always see opportunity and the third one is one we’ve used before Evan a-class

is one we’ve used before Evan a-class

is one we’ve used before Evan a-class execution and B class strategy

execution and B class strategy

execution and B class strategy always wins against a class strategy and

always wins against a class strategy and

always wins against a class strategy and B class execution so this is the time of

B class execution so this is the time of

B class execution so this is the time of year where you know everyone we think

year where you know everyone we think

year where you know everyone we think about it and you kind of golf on

about it and you kind of golf on

about it and you kind of golf on holidays you see your loved ones and

holidays you see your loved ones and

holidays you see your loved ones and then you kind of put these kind of

then you kind of put these kind of

then you kind of put these kind of resolutions for 2018 together I guess

resolutions for 2018 together I guess

resolutions for 2018 together I guess the whole purpose of this session today

the whole purpose of this session today

the whole purpose of this session today is about thinking about what those

is about thinking about what those

is about thinking about what those resolutions would be for all the

resolutions would be for all the

resolutions would be for all the entrepreneurs out there to to get their

entrepreneurs out there to to get their

entrepreneurs out there to to get their idea and make it happen

idea and make it happen

idea and make it happen 2018 is the year to make it happen so

2018 is the year to make it happen so

2018 is the year to make it happen so what are the top tips we’ve got today to

what are the top tips we’ve got today to

what are the top tips we’ve got today to help them really get their dreams lit up

help them really get their dreams lit up

help them really get their dreams lit up and their passions kind of really Kindle

and their passions kind of really Kindle

and their passions kind of really Kindle over the holiday period so they can come

over the holiday period so they can come

over the holiday period so they can come out the gate in January and get going I

out the gate in January and get going I

out the gate in January and get going I love it well first off I love the

love it well first off I love the

love it well first off I love the Stephen Kelly addition to the quotes at

Stephen Kelly addition to the quotes at

Stephen Kelly addition to the quotes at the beginning and I’ve seen them pop up

the beginning and I’ve seen them pop up

the beginning and I’ve seen them pop up on Twitter and Instagram and the sharing

on Twitter and Instagram and the sharing

on Twitter and Instagram and the sharing so so keep that up

so so keep that up

so so keep that up great work your team there are those did

great work your team there are those did

great work your team there are those did a good job behind the scenes too we’ve

a good job behind the scenes too we’ve

a good job behind the scenes too we’ve got a whole bunch of questions already

got a whole bunch of questions already

got a whole bunch of questions already kind of piling in and for those you’re

kind of piling in and for those you’re

kind of piling in and for those you’re watching leave your questions if you

watching leave your questions if you

watching leave your questions if you tagged me it’s way easier to see but

tagged me it’s way easier to see but

tagged me it’s way easier to see but before diving in Stephen what are some

before diving in Stephen what are some

before diving in Stephen what are some of your top tips for entrepreneurs 2018

of your top tips for entrepreneurs 2018

of your top tips for entrepreneurs 2018 new year fresh slate what do you what do

new year fresh slate what do you what do

new year fresh slate what do you what do you want to get some advice on yeah I

you want to get some advice on yeah I

you want to get some advice on yeah I think I will get loads of questions but

think I will get loads of questions but

think I will get loads of questions but there’s a couple of things I’d say is

there’s a couple of things I’d say is

there’s a couple of things I’d say is you know it is a time particularly the

you know it is a time particularly the

you know it is a time particularly the holy curve where you really get to it’s

holy curve where you really get to it’s

holy curve where you really get to it’s almost like when you go on a vacation

almost like when you go on a vacation

almost like when you go on a vacation you can kind of sit on the beach or you

you can kind of sit on the beach or you

you can kind of sit on the beach or you can climb a mountain whatever you you

can climb a mountain whatever you you

can climb a mountain whatever you you know kind of really gets you float your

know kind of really gets you float your

know kind of really gets you float your boat but it’s a time when you can

boat but it’s a time when you can

boat but it’s a time when you can reflect on what do you want to do with

reflect on what do you want to do with

reflect on what do you want to do with the rest of your life what is the dream

the rest of your life what is the dream

the rest of your life what is the dream and the big idea you want to make a

and the big idea you want to make a

and the big idea you want to make a change to making the world a better

change to making the world a better

change to making the world a better place so all of you out there today I

place so all of you out there today I

place so all of you out there today I know I’ve got great ideas and it’s just

know I’ve got great ideas and it’s just

know I’ve got great ideas and it’s just making them land so I kind of think how

making them land so I kind of think how

making them land so I kind of think how do we actually get started in many ways

do we actually get started in many ways

do we actually get started in many ways so we hit the hit the gates run it when

so we hit the hit the gates run it when

so we hit the hit the gates run it when it comes to January and then with all

it comes to January and then with all

it comes to January and then with all these things you know if you get couple

these things you know if you get couple

these things you know if you get couple of knock backs how do you overcome

of knock backs how do you overcome

of knock backs how do you overcome adversity or or if you kind of get

adversity or or if you kind of get

adversity or or if you kind of get momentum then you get rolling thunder’

momentum then you get rolling thunder’

momentum then you get rolling thunder’ and just a special call-out actually

and just a special call-out actually

and just a special call-out actually Evan today for Kathleen Tate who was a

Evan today for Kathleen Tate who was a

Evan today for Kathleen Tate who was a social work

social work

social work from Chicago and she’s been a big fan of

from Chicago and she’s been a big fan of

from Chicago and she’s been a big fan of Evan since a gecko she’s overcome some

Evan since a gecko she’s overcome some

Evan since a gecko she’s overcome some huge adversity and she had some sort of

huge adversity and she had some sort of

huge adversity and she had some sort of work-related disability injuries and

work-related disability injuries and

work-related disability injuries and what she’s done and big shout out for

what she’s done and big shout out for

what she’s done and big shout out for her is she started her own clothing

her is she started her own clothing

her is she started her own clothing store which is out in South Lake mall in

store which is out in South Lake mall in

store which is out in South Lake mall in I think Indiana and Kathleen took some

I think Indiana and Kathleen took some

I think Indiana and Kathleen took some inspiration from one of the early

inspiration from one of the early

inspiration from one of the early hangouts very early on and she started

hangouts very early on and she started

hangouts very early on and she started her own clothing range which is just

her own clothing range which is just

her own clothing range which is just called goo just gorgeous gorgeous

called goo just gorgeous gorgeous

called goo just gorgeous gorgeous gorgeous one two gorgeous one big shout

gorgeous one two gorgeous one big shout

gorgeous one two gorgeous one big shout out for gorgeous one which are clothes I

out for gorgeous one which are clothes I

out for gorgeous one which are clothes I love this as well they’re kind of tag

love this as well they’re kind of tag

love this as well they’re kind of tag line close to inspire customers to

line close to inspire customers to

line close to inspire customers to believe in themselves and her Twitter

believe in themselves and her Twitter

believe in themselves and her Twitter handle is at George’s 1 spelt GH o r J

handle is at George’s 1 spelt GH o r J

handle is at George’s 1 spelt GH o r J us one so Kathleen if you if you’re on

us one so Kathleen if you if you’re on

us one so Kathleen if you if you’re on the show today we wanted to do that

the show today we wanted to do that

the show today we wanted to do that shout out for you you are walking the

shout out for you you are walking the

shout out for you you are walking the tool you live in the dream you’re up

tool you live in the dream you’re up

tool you live in the dream you’re up there out in Indiana and I hope you’re

there out in Indiana and I hope you’re

there out in Indiana and I hope you’re getting a lot of footfall today and I

getting a lot of footfall today and I

getting a lot of footfall today and I hope everybody’s hitting your website

hope everybody’s hitting your website

hope everybody’s hitting your website your shop window and just saying wow

your shop window and just saying wow

your shop window and just saying wow they’re gorgeous one I’ve got the best

they’re gorgeous one I’ve got the best

they’re gorgeous one I’ve got the best clothing out there and it allows me to

clothing out there and it allows me to

clothing out there and it allows me to express myself so good luck to you in

express myself so good luck to you in

express myself so good luck to you in your business and it’s you know it’s

your business and it’s you know it’s

your business and it’s you know it’s fantastic Evan when I got that message

fantastic Evan when I got that message

fantastic Evan when I got that message she DM me on Twitter and it just you

she DM me on Twitter and it just you

she DM me on Twitter and it just you know if through these kind of hangouts

know if through these kind of hangouts

know if through these kind of hangouts you know there’s entrepreneurs out there

you know there’s entrepreneurs out there

you know there’s entrepreneurs out there who take the conversations apply them to

who take the conversations apply them to

who take the conversations apply them to their big idea and then start living

their big idea and then start living

their big idea and then start living their dreams from you know Jan re1 then

their dreams from you know Jan re1 then

their dreams from you know Jan re1 then there’s nothing more that you and I can

there’s nothing more that you and I can

there’s nothing more that you and I can do to feel so proud of them and just

do to feel so proud of them and just

do to feel so proud of them and just feel very satisfied with the experience

feel very satisfied with the experience

feel very satisfied with the experience that we build up where we can give the

that we build up where we can give the

that we build up where we can give the next generation of entrepreneurs a kind

next generation of entrepreneurs a kind

next generation of entrepreneurs a kind of help enhance to get on their journey

of help enhance to get on their journey

of help enhance to get on their journey and live their adventure yeah I remember

and live their adventure yeah I remember

and live their adventure yeah I remember Kathleen from she was at sea to summit

Kathleen from she was at sea to summit

Kathleen from she was at sea to summit two years ago when was Chicago was yeah

two years ago when was Chicago was yeah

two years ago when was Chicago was yeah two years ago yeah yeah yeah so she was

two years ago yeah yeah yeah so she was

two years ago yeah yeah yeah so she was that’s awesome and also just speaks to

that’s awesome and also just speaks to

that’s awesome and also just speaks to just get in your

just get in your

just get in your I’m out and reaching out to people and

I’m out and reaching out to people and

I’m out and reaching out to people and like gdm Steven and boom here she is

like gdm Steven and boom here she is

like gdm Steven and boom here she is getting the shout out is the first

getting the shout out is the first

getting the shout out is the first person on this hangout so outreach has

person on this hangout so outreach has

person on this hangout so outreach has to be a priority for you guys in 2018

to be a priority for you guys in 2018

to be a priority for you guys in 2018 I’m all about HIPAA got this and Evan

I’m all about HIPAA got this and Evan

I’m all about HIPAA got this and Evan forgot it if you’re there you’re sitting

forgot it if you’re there you’re sitting

forgot it if you’re there you’re sitting down and thinking about it it’s kind of

down and thinking about it it’s kind of

down and thinking about it it’s kind of five days away from the new year you’re

five days away from the new year you’re

five days away from the new year you’re thinking new year’s resolutions

thinking new year’s resolutions

thinking new year’s resolutions it’s your big idea what do you go about

it’s your big idea what do you go about

it’s your big idea what do you go about what do you start I think just taking

what do you start I think just taking

what do you start I think just taking time to reflect on how you can play a

time to reflect on how you can play a

time to reflect on how you can play a bigger game I think it’s easy to get

bigger game I think it’s easy to get

bigger game I think it’s easy to get locked into what you’re doing and the

locked into what you’re doing and the

locked into what you’re doing and the day to day and your yes your goals but I

day to day and your yes your goals but I

day to day and your yes your goals but I think before getting to the goals is

think before getting to the goals is

think before getting to the goals is having a bigger mindset and having a

having a bigger mindset and having a

having a bigger mindset and having a bigger vision I know when you came in

bigger vision I know when you came in

bigger vision I know when you came in and took over Sage and created your

and took over Sage and created your

and took over Sage and created your multi-pronged strategy and then being

multi-pronged strategy and then being

multi-pronged strategy and then being able to see it get executed with helping

able to see it get executed with helping

able to see it get executed with helping the kids and helping the veterans and

the kids and helping the veterans and

the kids and helping the veterans and helping women and the summit’s and all

helping women and the summit’s and all

helping women and the summit’s and all that just starting the new year by

that just starting the new year by

that just starting the new year by thinking how can i play a bigger game

thinking how can i play a bigger game

thinking how can i play a bigger game and then get into your goals get into a

and then get into your goals get into a

and then get into your goals get into a state of confidence whether it’s

state of confidence whether it’s

state of confidence whether it’s watching this hangout and you’re feeling

watching this hangout and you’re feeling

watching this hangout and you’re feeling motivated you know if you couldn’t fail

motivated you know if you couldn’t fail

motivated you know if you couldn’t fail what would you do that kind of big

what would you do that kind of big

what would you do that kind of big visionary thinking and then working down

visionary thinking and then working down

visionary thinking and then working down to the tactics for what can I accomplish

to the tactics for what can I accomplish

to the tactics for what can I accomplish this year I always find it to be super

this year I always find it to be super

this year I always find it to be super helpful for me yeah I think evidence awe

helpful for me yeah I think evidence awe

helpful for me yeah I think evidence awe and I think you and I’ve actually spoken

and I think you and I’ve actually spoken

and I think you and I’ve actually spoken about this sort of end result planning

about this sort of end result planning

about this sort of end result planning concept start with the end in mind you

concept start with the end in mind you

concept start with the end in mind you never start with today you start with

never start with today you start with

never start with today you start with maybe it’s three four or five years

maybe it’s three four or five years

maybe it’s three four or five years ahead and and great entrepreneurs always

ahead and and great entrepreneurs always

ahead and and great entrepreneurs always live in the future

live in the future

live in the future they obviously acknowledge the problems

they obviously acknowledge the problems

they obviously acknowledge the problems we’ve got a kind of fix today but

we’ve got a kind of fix today but

we’ve got a kind of fix today but they’re living in the future they’re

they’re living in the future they’re

they’re living in the future they’re seeing the bigger vision how they can I

seeing the bigger vision how they can I

seeing the bigger vision how they can I change the world with their product or

change the world with their product or

change the world with their product or service their big idea and you guys can

service their big idea and you guys can

service their big idea and you guys can absolutely I’d say just spend some

absolutely I’d say just spend some

absolutely I’d say just spend some reflective time and maybe with your

reflective time and maybe with your

reflective time and maybe with your loved one friends and family just to say

loved one friends and family just to say

loved one friends and family just to say kind of shoot the breeze what could be

kind of shoot the breeze what could be

kind of shoot the breeze what could be possible what’s the biggest vision what

possible what’s the biggest vision what

possible what’s the biggest vision what is the biggest face you could feel in

is the biggest face you could feel in

is the biggest face you could feel in terms of your idea and what would it

terms of your idea and what would it

terms of your idea and what would it look like if you say 2022 what would it

look like if you say 2022 what would it

look like if you say 2022 what would it look like sitting out there in four

look like sitting out there in four

look like sitting out there in four years time how big could it be how

years time how big could it be how

years time how big could it be how you know how many countries get it going

you know how many countries get it going

you know how many countries get it going how many you know how many evangelists

how many you know how many evangelists

how many you know how many evangelists how many followers would you have all

how many followers would you have all

how many followers would you have all these sort of things all the measures

these sort of things all the measures

these sort of things all the measures and so how many awards would do it how

and so how many awards would do it how

and so how many awards would do it how many customers would you have how many

many customers would you have how many

many customers would you have how many literally how many invites would you

literally how many invites would you

literally how many invites would you have either to water or the White House

have either to water or the White House

have either to water or the White House because you’re changing the world with

because you’re changing the world with

because you’re changing the world with your big idea it’s all those sort of

your big idea it’s all those sort of

your big idea it’s all those sort of things and then obviously I think kind

things and then obviously I think kind

things and then obviously I think kind of to to to your point evan is when you

of to to to your point evan is when you

of to to to your point evan is when you start with the end you know your big

start with the end you know your big

start with the end you know your big vision how you’re gonna change you live

vision how you’re gonna change you live

vision how you’re gonna change you live in the future

in the future

in the future you really let let your imagination run

you really let let your imagination run

you really let let your imagination run wild then you want to bring you back

wild then you want to bring you back

wild then you want to bring you back itself back to well what do I need to do

itself back to well what do I need to do

itself back to well what do I need to do on day one and a really easy way to do

on day one and a really easy way to do

on day one and a really easy way to do that it’s kind of start with three years

that it’s kind of start with three years

that it’s kind of start with three years five years time the big vision and then

five years time the big vision and then

five years time the big vision and then say well if that’s the case what would I

say well if that’s the case what would I

say well if that’s the case what would I have to do by 2020 what would I have to

have to do by 2020 what would I have to

have to do by 2020 what would I have to do by 2019 and then what were I had to

do by 2019 and then what were I had to

do by 2019 and then what were I had to do by December 31st 2018 so that gives

do by December 31st 2018 so that gives

do by December 31st 2018 so that gives me 12 months so that’s the case and I’m

me 12 months so that’s the case and I’m

me 12 months so that’s the case and I’m gonna you know say by 2018 maybe having

gonna you know say by 2018 maybe having

gonna you know say by 2018 maybe having done your big vision you say right I’m

done your big vision you say right I’m

done your big vision you say right I’m gonna get a half a million dollars of

gonna get a half a million dollars of

gonna get a half a million dollars of revenue I’m gonna have my product

revenue I’m gonna have my product

revenue I’m gonna have my product launched in three countries I’m gonna

launched in three countries I’m gonna

launched in three countries I’m gonna have kind of really big social media

have kind of really big social media

have kind of really big social media presence I’m going to build a following

presence I’m going to build a following

presence I’m going to build a following build a community and then you can kind

build a community and then you can kind

build a community and then you can kind of bring it right back to well you know

of bring it right back to well you know

of bring it right back to well you know that the six-month point the 3-month

that the six-month point the 3-month

that the six-month point the 3-month point and then the 30-day point and then

point and then the 30-day point and then

point and then the 30-day point and then what do you need to do on day one are

what do you need to do on day one are

what do you need to do on day one are you gonna go and see who you’re gonna

you gonna go and see who you’re gonna

you gonna go and see who you’re gonna talk to who you’re gonna be a hustler

talk to who you’re gonna be a hustler

talk to who you’re gonna be a hustler with who’s gonna be a partner who are

with who’s gonna be a partner who are

with who’s gonna be a partner who are the gaps that you’ve got in terms of

the gaps that you’ve got in terms of

the gaps that you’ve got in terms of your big vision how to make it happen so

your big vision how to make it happen so

your big vision how to make it happen so and then actually twelve ins point again

and then actually twelve ins point again

and then actually twelve ins point again you know it’s great to hear here from

you know it’s great to hear here from

you know it’s great to hear here from Kathleen but it’s fantastic how to use

Kathleen but it’s fantastic how to use

Kathleen but it’s fantastic how to use your network or how do you use the

your network or how do you use the

your network or how do you use the network of 7 billion people out there

network of 7 billion people out there

network of 7 billion people out there who could be all advocates for you to be

who could be all advocates for you to be

who could be all advocates for you to be successful in your business with your

successful in your business with your

successful in your business with your big idea because many of those people

big idea because many of those people

big idea because many of those people you will find you don’t even know today

you will find you don’t even know today

you will find you don’t even know today right when I started this age my life

right when I started this age my life

right when I started this age my life was poorer because I didn’t know Evan

was poorer because I didn’t know Evan

was poorer because I didn’t know Evan Carmichael yeah now my life is richer

Carmichael yeah now my life is richer

Carmichael yeah now my life is richer because I know this guy and he’s great

because I know this guy and he’s great

because I know this guy and he’s great fun but there’s you know when you start

fun but there’s you know when you start

fun but there’s you know when you start your business you will meet amazing

your business you will meet amazing

your business you will meet amazing people

people

people so how do you kind of get them early on

so how do you kind of get them early on

so how do you kind of get them early on to be a catalyst of growth and success

to be a catalyst of growth and success

to be a catalyst of growth and success in your business how do you get them to

in your business how do you get them to

in your business how do you get them to give you advice how do you get them

give you advice how do you get them

give you advice how do you get them maybe to give you funding how do you get

maybe to give you funding how do you get

maybe to give you funding how do you get them to give you access to markets all

them to give you access to markets all

them to give you access to markets all these sort of things so it’s kind of go

these sort of things so it’s kind of go

these sort of things so it’s kind of go right back to the beginning then but you

right back to the beginning then but you

right back to the beginning then but you know and Evan and think about the big

know and Evan and think about the big

know and Evan and think about the big vision and then bring it back to today

vision and then bring it back to today

vision and then bring it back to today what do I need to do January 1 January

what do I need to do January 1 January

what do I need to do January 1 January to January 3 I love it

to January 3 I love it

to January 3 I love it well guys and other questions are

well guys and other questions are

well guys and other questions are pouring in if you tag me it’s a lot

pouring in if you tag me it’s a lot

pouring in if you tag me it’s a lot easier for me to see them but let’s get

easier for me to see them but let’s get

easier for me to see them but let’s get the sound that’s the point of this

the sound that’s the point of this

the sound that’s the point of this hangout let’s get to your questions

hangout let’s get to your questions

hangout let’s get to your questions first up is Jackson writing in the say I

first up is Jackson writing in the say I

first up is Jackson writing in the say I would like to know how to develop a good

would like to know how to develop a good

would like to know how to develop a good work ethic for 2018 oh that’s great hey

work ethic for 2018 oh that’s great hey

work ethic for 2018 oh that’s great hey Jackson I think it’s important there is

Jackson I think it’s important there is

Jackson I think it’s important there is gonna be a you know I think truthfully

gonna be a you know I think truthfully

gonna be a you know I think truthfully I’d say things to everybody really all

I’d say things to everybody really all

I’d say things to everybody really all my friends were family colleagues and

my friends were family colleagues and

my friends were family colleagues and sage yeah yeah work ethic is important

sage yeah yeah work ethic is important

sage yeah yeah work ethic is important to success ah and people who typically

to success ah and people who typically

to success ah and people who typically work harder sibley tend to be more and

work harder sibley tend to be more and

work harder sibley tend to be more and there’s loads of books like 10,000 hours

there’s loads of books like 10,000 hours

there’s loads of books like 10,000 hours all these books written about you know

all these books written about you know

all these books written about you know the amount of effort you put into your

the amount of effort you put into your

the amount of effort you put into your idea has a strong correlation with you

idea has a strong correlation with you

idea has a strong correlation with you being you know a kind of Jedi Master

being you know a kind of Jedi Master

being you know a kind of Jedi Master ultimately you’re gonna be a Jedi Master

ultimately you’re gonna be a Jedi Master

ultimately you’re gonna be a Jedi Master entrepreneur then you’re gonna have to

entrepreneur then you’re gonna have to

entrepreneur then you’re gonna have to work at it and you’re gonna have to

work at it and you’re gonna have to

work at it and you’re gonna have to learn continuously now if you kind of if

learn continuously now if you kind of if

learn continuously now if you kind of if you don’t have that work I think the

you don’t have that work I think the

you don’t have that work I think the only way you kind of probably get rich

only way you kind of probably get rich

only way you kind of probably get rich is to win the lottery and you got to get

is to win the lottery and you got to get

is to win the lottery and you got to get lucky there see if I have got to be

lucky there see if I have got to be

lucky there see if I have got to be really lucky and lazy or you’ve gotta

really lucky and lazy or you’ve gotta

really lucky and lazy or you’ve gotta have a work ethic and then Yin being on

have a work ethic and then Yin being on

have a work ethic and then Yin being on to an earn you’ll be super successful

to an earn you’ll be super successful

to an earn you’ll be super successful and Fanny let you do that I’d suggest a

and Fanny let you do that I’d suggest a

and Fanny let you do that I’d suggest a few things I think I kind of think

few things I think I kind of think

few things I think I kind of think structure probably three things

structure probably three things

structure probably three things structure is really important in terms

structure is really important in terms

structure is really important in terms of you know getting up every morning

of you know getting up every morning

of you know getting up every morning same sort of time getting a regular

same sort of time getting a regular

same sort of time getting a regular sleep eating well diet exercise all

sleep eating well diet exercise all

sleep eating well diet exercise all those sort of things you know and and

those sort of things you know and and

those sort of things you know and and just get it cadence and a rhythm where

just get it cadence and a rhythm where

just get it cadence and a rhythm where you’re feeling confident feeling good

you’re feeling confident feeling good

you’re feeling confident feeling good about yourself feeling feeling energized

about yourself feeling feeling energized

about yourself feeling feeling energized so structures the first one and then

so structures the first one and then

so structures the first one and then kind of the other thing secondly is just

kind of the other thing secondly is just

kind of the other thing secondly is just just

just

just in terms of work ethic again think about

in terms of work ethic again think about

in terms of work ethic again think about what it what is it I want to do if

what it what is it I want to do if

what it what is it I want to do if that’s my big vision for three years my

that’s my big vision for three years my

that’s my big vision for three years my big vision for one year my mo what is my

big vision for one year my mo what is my

big vision for one year my mo what is my kind of milestones I’ve got to hit this

kind of milestones I’ve got to hit this

kind of milestones I’ve got to hit this month and then bring it back to work so

month and then bring it back to work so

month and then bring it back to work so it means I’ve got to do three things

it means I’ve got to do three things

it means I’ve got to do three things really well today and then get very

really well today and then get very

really well today and then get very focused on those so it’s kind of whether

focused on those so it’s kind of whether

focused on those so it’s kind of whether you call it a to-do list ask this but

you call it a to-do list ask this but

you call it a to-do list ask this but make sure it’s outcome based it’s not

make sure it’s outcome based it’s not

make sure it’s outcome based it’s not about doing the process it’s about

about doing the process it’s about

about doing the process it’s about achieving the results and and that gives

achieving the results and and that gives

achieving the results and and that gives you real focus and then the other thing

you real focus and then the other thing

you real focus and then the other thing I’d say especially as an entrepreneur is

I’d say especially as an entrepreneur is

I’d say especially as an entrepreneur is you know celebrate be kind to yourself

you know celebrate be kind to yourself

you know celebrate be kind to yourself you know it’s so easy and I do this one

you know it’s so easy and I do this one

you know it’s so easy and I do this one of my failings that I probably just am

of my failings that I probably just am

of my failings that I probably just am never satisfied with myself I always can

never satisfied with myself I always can

never satisfied with myself I always can do better but I’d advise all

do better but I’d advise all

do better but I’d advise all entrepreneurs to say actually some days

entrepreneurs to say actually some days

entrepreneurs to say actually some days and some days go really well and you

and some days go really well and you

and some days go really well and you know what it’s like being an

know what it’s like being an

know what it’s like being an entrepreneur it is a daily ride a

entrepreneur it is a daily ride a

entrepreneur it is a daily ride a white-knuckle ride you’re on the roller

white-knuckle ride you’re on the roller

white-knuckle ride you’re on the roller coaster of entrepreneurship and you go

coaster of entrepreneurship and you go

coaster of entrepreneurship and you go up and down up and down and some days

up and down up and down and some days

up and down up and down and some days you win an order you’re feeling like you

you win an order you’re feeling like you

you win an order you’re feeling like you can fly to the moon the next day

can fly to the moon the next day

can fly to the moon the next day something goes wrong in the business or

something goes wrong in the business or

something goes wrong in the business or you’re just about to hire someone and

you’re just about to hire someone and

you’re just about to hire someone and they take another job

they take another job

they take another job you know you feel flat so I think you’ve

you know you feel flat so I think you’ve

you know you feel flat so I think you’ve got to be kind to yourself and you’ve

got to be kind to yourself and you’ve

got to be kind to yourself and you’ve got to celebrate your successes even if

got to celebrate your successes even if

got to celebrate your successes even if you’re on your own you should just say

you’re on your own you should just say

you’re on your own you should just say wow I should just savor that moment I

wow I should just savor that moment I

wow I should just savor that moment I should really enjoy the success of

should really enjoy the success of

should really enjoy the success of winning my first customer always

winning my first customer always

winning my first customer always remember maybe take a little video of

remember maybe take a little video of

remember maybe take a little video of yourself so how did you feel when you

yourself so how did you feel when you

yourself so how did you feel when you won the first customer and then posting

won the first customer and then posting

won the first customer and then posting it and sharing it with your friends and

it and sharing it with your friends and

it and sharing it with your friends and then you’ll get laughs and I think being

then you’ll get laughs and I think being

then you’ll get laughs and I think being an entrepreneur particularly if you’re

an entrepreneur particularly if you’re

an entrepreneur particularly if you’re starting on your own you need a support

starting on your own you need a support

starting on your own you need a support network you need to fill you’re part of

network you need to fill you’re part of

network you need to fill you’re part of a bigger community for a bigger courts

a bigger community for a bigger courts

a bigger community for a bigger courts and there’s lots of ways you can do that

and there’s lots of ways you can do that

and there’s lots of ways you can do that but be kind to yourself though so there

but be kind to yourself though so there

but be kind to yourself though so there would be the kind of three things one

would be the kind of three things one

would be the kind of three things one structure to focus and three be kind to

structure to focus and three be kind to

structure to focus and three be kind to yourself I like it all the things I

yourself I like it all the things I

yourself I like it all the things I think I don’t celebrate probably enough

think I don’t celebrate probably enough

think I don’t celebrate probably enough for the things that I’m doing so it’s a

for the things that I’m doing so it’s a

for the things that I’m doing so it’s a good good reflection for me too

good good reflection for me too

good good reflection for me too in terms of work ethic what I would say

in terms of work ethic what I would say

in terms of work ethic what I would say is one have important goals that mean

is one have important goals that mean

is one have important goals that mean something to you it’s really hard to

something to you it’s really hard to

something to you it’s really hard to wake up and do something you hate every

wake up and do something you hate every

wake up and do something you hate every day and work really hard at it you know

day and work really hard at it you know

day and work really hard at it you know so to

so to

so to Steve and I were talking before how to

Steve and I were talking before how to

Steve and I were talking before how to set goals having something that you are

set goals having something that you are

set goals having something that you are generally looking forward to doing where

generally looking forward to doing where

generally looking forward to doing where it doesn’t feel like it’s just insane

it doesn’t feel like it’s just insane

it doesn’t feel like it’s just insane work all the time you’re actually having

work all the time you’re actually having

work all the time you’re actually having a passion you love doing it it’s really

a passion you love doing it it’s really

a passion you love doing it it’s really important I don’t know that there’s lazy

important I don’t know that there’s lazy

important I don’t know that there’s lazy people I think people just have

people I think people just have

people I think people just have uninspired goals and then – I just say

uninspired goals and then – I just say

uninspired goals and then – I just say the environment really matters you know

the environment really matters you know

the environment really matters you know when I walk in here this means something

when I walk in here this means something

when I walk in here this means something to me this gets me inspired to get in

to me this gets me inspired to get in

to me this gets me inspired to get in and start working and that’s part of my

and start working and that’s part of my

and start working and that’s part of my morning routine if you ever have the

morning routine if you ever have the

morning routine if you ever have the good fortune to visit Stevens offices in

good fortune to visit Stevens offices in

good fortune to visit Stevens offices in in London his desk is with everybody

in London his desk is with everybody

in London his desk is with everybody else there’s no like private fancy

else there’s no like private fancy

else there’s no like private fancy corner suite offices that’s Stevens desk

corner suite offices that’s Stevens desk

corner suite offices that’s Stevens desk there and that’s everybody else he likes

there and that’s everybody else he likes

there and that’s everybody else he likes working alongside his team

working alongside his team

working alongside his team shoulder-to-shoulder and so you know

shoulder-to-shoulder and so you know

shoulder-to-shoulder and so you know whatever the environment that you need

whatever the environment that you need

whatever the environment that you need to create for yourself to give you the

to create for yourself to give you the

to create for yourself to give you the energy on a regular basis I think is

energy on a regular basis I think is

energy on a regular basis I think is really important so I would just add the

really important so I would just add the

really important so I would just add the Stevens points one goals that motivate

Stevens points one goals that motivate

Stevens points one goals that motivate you into an environment supports the

you into an environment supports the

you into an environment supports the best for you coming down yah-tchi evan

best for you coming down yah-tchi evan

best for you coming down yah-tchi evan the other thing i think there’s loads of

the other thing i think there’s loads of

the other thing i think there’s loads of reasons psychologically it’s a great

reasons psychologically it’s a great

reasons psychologically it’s a great time to start a business in the new year

time to start a business in the new year

time to start a business in the new year because you know all the new year’s

because you know all the new year’s

because you know all the new year’s resolutions all that stuff but there’s a

resolutions all that stuff but there’s a

resolutions all that stuff but there’s a lot of sensible things just to say

lot of sensible things just to say

lot of sensible things just to say because typically you get better tax

because typically you get better tax

because typically you get better tax benefits in countries like Canada the US

benefits in countries like Canada the US

benefits in countries like Canada the US UK if you kind of incorporate a business

UK if you kind of incorporate a business

UK if you kind of incorporate a business at the start of the year actually also

at the start of the year actually also

at the start of the year actually also the other thing if you’re looking to

the other thing if you’re looking to

the other thing if you’re looking to hire people people start looking around

hire people people start looking around

hire people people start looking around kind of January February March people

kind of January February March people

kind of January February March people people don’t look kind of in the summer

people don’t look kind of in the summer

people don’t look kind of in the summer holidays for jobs so you know you social

holidays for jobs so you know you social

holidays for jobs so you know you social media if you want to rent you reach out

media if you want to rent you reach out

media if you want to rent you reach out through LinkedIn and stuff like that

through LinkedIn and stuff like that

through LinkedIn and stuff like that you kind of Tim you find more resources

you kind of Tim you find more resources

you kind of Tim you find more resources available and also just in terms of the

available and also just in terms of the

available and also just in terms of the whole cycle of if you’re raising money

whole cycle of if you’re raising money

whole cycle of if you’re raising money or if you’re asking your friends to fund

or if you’re asking your friends to fund

or if you’re asking your friends to fund your business people tend to kind of

your business people tend to kind of

your business people tend to kind of work on an annual cycle and it just

work on an annual cycle and it just

work on an annual cycle and it just tends to be a calendar cycle and they

tends to be a calendar cycle and they

tends to be a calendar cycle and they look at their portfolio at the end of

look at their portfolio at the end of

look at their portfolio at the end of the year and then they start the new

the year and then they start the new

the year and then they start the new year and they look again and look

year and they look again and look

year and they look again and look everybody starts afresh so it’s kind of

everybody starts afresh so it’s kind of

everybody starts afresh so it’s kind of a good time for resources for funding

a good time for resources for funding

a good time for resources for funding and also kind of a good environment for

and also kind of a good environment for

and also kind of a good environment for tax benefits and stuff like that so

tax benefits and stuff like that so

tax benefits and stuff like that so there’s a lot of kind of logical

there’s a lot of kind of logical

there’s a lot of kind of logical business reasons and it’s just a good

business reasons and it’s just a good

business reasons and it’s just a good time where Joe Evans point I think we

time where Joe Evans point I think we

time where Joe Evans point I think we all have a cadence in in our bodies our

all have a cadence in in our bodies our

all have a cadence in in our bodies our psyches and

psyches and

psyches and in the new year you come in with huge

in the new year you come in with huge

in the new year you come in with huge optimism and confidence and you know

optimism and confidence and you know

optimism and confidence and you know you’ve had reflection time and downtime

you’ve had reflection time and downtime

you’ve had reflection time and downtime and hopefully good rest over the

and hopefully good rest over the

and hopefully good rest over the holidays and you come up really

holidays and you come up really

holidays and you come up really confident and powering ahead so it’s a

confident and powering ahead so it’s a

confident and powering ahead so it’s a great time to give your the art idea the

great time to give your the art idea the

great time to give your the art idea the best chance of being successful I love

best chance of being successful I love

best chance of being successful I love it

it

it keep the Russians coming in guys next

keep the Russians coming in guys next

keep the Russians coming in guys next one we have is tree aunt bee gee I don’t

one we have is tree aunt bee gee I don’t

one we have is tree aunt bee gee I don’t know if that’s how you pronounce it

know if that’s how you pronounce it

know if that’s how you pronounce it Stephen and Evan how do you transition

Stephen and Evan how do you transition

Stephen and Evan how do you transition from a day job and building a business

from a day job and building a business

from a day job and building a business should you start part-time and then as

should you start part-time and then as

should you start part-time and then as you expand quit your job what are your

you expand quit your job what are your

you expand quit your job what are your thoughts that’s a great question and

thoughts that’s a great question and

thoughts that’s a great question and some of the best startup businesses that

some of the best startup businesses that

some of the best startup businesses that became global mammoths I’ve done that

became global mammoths I’ve done that

became global mammoths I’ve done that and I guess I call it this isn’t a very

and I guess I call it this isn’t a very

and I guess I call it this isn’t a very fair phrase that should really kind of

fair phrase that should really kind of

fair phrase that should really kind of classify the language

classify the language

classify the language I call it moonlight it I think

I call it moonlight it I think

I call it moonlight it I think moonlighting is a great way to start a

moonlighting is a great way to start a

moonlighting is a great way to start a new business so I would have actually

new business so I would have actually

new business so I would have actually example it’s Marc Benioff who is a

example it’s Marc Benioff who is a

example it’s Marc Benioff who is a amazing leader chairman CEO of

amazing leader chairman CEO of

amazing leader chairman CEO of Salesforce got massive respect for was

Salesforce got massive respect for was

Salesforce got massive respect for was working at Oracle and working on his

working at Oracle and working on his

working at Oracle and working on his startup which were Salesforce and I know

startup which were Salesforce and I know

startup which were Salesforce and I know loads of people and I always advocate

loads of people and I always advocate

loads of people and I always advocate because you know if you’re in a job even

because you know if you’re in a job even

because you know if you’re in a job even if it’s a part-time job then it kind of

if it’s a part-time job then it kind of

if it’s a part-time job then it kind of gives you some cash flow bit security

gives you some cash flow bit security

gives you some cash flow bit security you know if you’ve got a family and

you know if you’ve got a family and

you know if you’ve got a family and stuff like that but also it means that

stuff like that but also it means that

stuff like that but also it means that you can allow your business idea to get

you can allow your business idea to get

you can allow your business idea to get off to a point in time and I think you

off to a point in time and I think you

off to a point in time and I think you have to look it you have to make sure

have to look it you have to make sure

have to look it you have to make sure you you plan this and you go into it

you you plan this and you go into it

you you plan this and you go into it with your eyes open because there comes

with your eyes open because there comes

with your eyes open because there comes a point where it’s almost like kind of

a point where it’s almost like kind of

a point where it’s almost like kind of jumping out of a plane with the

jumping out of a plane with the

jumping out of a plane with the parachute you say this is the point when

parachute you say this is the point when

parachute you say this is the point when I’m gonna give up my kind of full-time

I’m gonna give up my kind of full-time

I’m gonna give up my kind of full-time job or my part-time job and I’m going to

job or my part-time job and I’m going to

job or my part-time job and I’m going to devote a hundred percent of my time and

devote a hundred percent of my time and

devote a hundred percent of my time and 200 percent of my energy to my new

200 percent of my energy to my new

200 percent of my energy to my new adventure but what a great way to get

adventure but what a great way to get

adventure but what a great way to get effectively someone else to fund your

effectively someone else to fund your

effectively someone else to fund your dreams and start your business and

dreams and start your business and

dreams and start your business and certainly do all the kind of preliminary

certainly do all the kind of preliminary

certainly do all the kind of preliminary work like test your idea test your idea

work like test your idea test your idea

work like test your idea test your idea with the market maybe get your first few

with the market maybe get your first few

with the market maybe get your first few customers and when you’ve got sufficient

customers and when you’ve got sufficient

customers and when you’ve got sufficient momentum that you say wow this is a real

momentum that you say wow this is a real

momentum that you say wow this is a real business and I’m really confident of it

business and I’m really confident of it

business and I’m really confident of it my ideas coming true they

my ideas coming true they

my ideas coming true they that’s the time to you know cut the cord

that’s the time to you know cut the cord

that’s the time to you know cut the cord and fly like an eagle and go full-time

and fly like an eagle and go full-time

and fly like an eagle and go full-time yeah for me I think it depends on your

yeah for me I think it depends on your

yeah for me I think it depends on your personality type I think some people the

personality type I think some people the

personality type I think some people the only way they do something is if they go

only way they do something is if they go

only way they do something is if they go all-in on it and that’s the only way

all-in on it and that’s the only way

all-in on it and that’s the only way that they can get anything done for me I

that they can get anything done for me I

that they can get anything done for me I hate spending money till I’m making

hate spending money till I’m making

hate spending money till I’m making money and I would much rather do a

money and I would much rather do a

money and I would much rather do a part-time job a part-time business sorry

part-time job a part-time business sorry

part-time job a part-time business sorry to fund my idea and have a job at the

to fund my idea and have a job at the

to fund my idea and have a job at the same time and then when you make enough

same time and then when you make enough

same time and then when you make enough money just to survive not not like get

money just to survive not not like get

money just to survive not not like get crazy cars or anything but like pay the

crazy cars or anything but like pay the

crazy cars or anything but like pay the internet bills you know just just

internet bills you know just just

internet bills you know just just survive then that’s when you quit I

survive then that’s when you quit I

survive then that’s when you quit I would also say I think it’s really

would also say I think it’s really

would also say I think it’s really important that you take a job where

important that you take a job where

important that you take a job where you’re gonna learn something that will

you’re gonna learn something that will

you’re gonna learn something that will help you in your business so don’t think

help you in your business so don’t think

help you in your business so don’t think some dead-end nine-to-five job that’s

some dead-end nine-to-five job that’s

some dead-end nine-to-five job that’s just paying the bills for you get

just paying the bills for you get

just paying the bills for you get something where you’re going to learn

something where you’re going to learn

something where you’re going to learn something from it whether it’s sales or

something from it whether it’s sales or

something from it whether it’s sales or marketing their product irrelevant or

marketing their product irrelevant or

marketing their product irrelevant or whatever it is that you lack that you

whatever it is that you lack that you

whatever it is that you lack that you want to get better at the reason to get

want to get better at the reason to get

want to get better at the reason to get a job is to be able to learn some new

a job is to be able to learn some new

a job is to be able to learn some new skills and develop yourself but then you

skills and develop yourself but then you

skills and develop yourself but then you could bring to your business so I would

could bring to your business so I would

could bring to your business so I would also if you’re in that position that’ll

also if you’re in that position that’ll

also if you’re in that position that’ll look at your job and see maybe you need

look at your job and see maybe you need

look at your job and see maybe you need to make an adjustment get another job

to make an adjustment get another job

to make an adjustment get another job answer your business on the side yeah I

answer your business on the side yeah I

answer your business on the side yeah I think yeah I did you know I love urban

think yeah I did you know I love urban

think yeah I did you know I love urban as well just reflecting it you always

as well just reflecting it you always

as well just reflecting it you always bring a great perspective things as a

bring a great perspective things as a

bring a great perspective things as a sort of very humor perspective I love

sort of very humor perspective I love

sort of very humor perspective I love that I think um the the thing you also

that I think um the the thing you also

that I think um the the thing you also said about a part-time job you just then

said about a part-time job you just then

said about a part-time job you just then you’ve also got to be pragmatic because

you’ve also got to be pragmatic because

you’ve also got to be pragmatic because if your idea needs a hundred percent

if your idea needs a hundred percent

if your idea needs a hundred percent revenge in time you’ve got to give it

revenge in time you’ve got to give it

revenge in time you’ve got to give it the best chance so if it gets to a stage

the best chance so if it gets to a stage

the best chance so if it gets to a stage where you’re kind of fault on the part

where you’re kind of fault on the part

where you’re kind of fault on the part time jobs constraining your ability to

time jobs constraining your ability to

time jobs constraining your ability to execute on your plan for your big idea

execute on your plan for your big idea

execute on your plan for your big idea then you have to make different choices

then you have to make different choices

then you have to make different choices the other thing I’d say just sitting

the other thing I’d say just sitting

the other thing I’d say just sitting here this there’s some folks in Sage

here this there’s some folks in Sage

here this there’s some folks in Sage actually who have come to me and said

actually who have come to me and said

actually who have come to me and said you know I want to be here but one day I

you know I want to be here but one day I

you know I want to be here but one day I want to have my own business and I want

want to have my own business and I want

want to have my own business and I want to start my own business and I’ve got

to start my own business and I’ve got

to start my own business and I’ve got big ideas and I want to pursue my

big ideas and I want to pursue my

big ideas and I want to pursue my passion and and people I kind of think

passion and and people I kind of think

passion and and people I kind of think for some reason think that employers

for some reason think that employers

for some reason think that employers think that they’ll be negative about

think that they’ll be negative about

think that they’ll be negative about that but when people tell me that I am

that but when people tell me that I am

that but when people tell me that I am so excited for them and if they can

so excited for them and if they can

so excited for them and if they can start their idea while being a employer

start their idea while being a employer

start their idea while being a employer in

in

in sage then fantastic you know so I think

sage then fantastic you know so I think

sage then fantastic you know so I think what I’m saying is if you went to a

what I’m saying is if you went to a

what I’m saying is if you went to a full-time job yeah or a part-time job go

full-time job yeah or a part-time job go

full-time job yeah or a part-time job go in an industry that you care about and

in an industry that you care about and

in an industry that you care about and it’s something that gives you a catalyst

it’s something that gives you a catalyst

it’s something that gives you a catalyst to start right it doesn’t make sense if

to start right it doesn’t make sense if

to start right it doesn’t make sense if you’re gonna start a company working at

you’re gonna start a company working at

you’re gonna start a company working at Starbucks

Starbucks

Starbucks but you should go into technology but

but you should go into technology but

but you should go into technology but don’t think that everybody’s gonna be

don’t think that everybody’s gonna be

don’t think that everybody’s gonna be trying to beat you up on your idea so

trying to beat you up on your idea so

trying to beat you up on your idea so I’d say generally always err on the side

I’d say generally always err on the side

I’d say generally always err on the side towards honesty and share with your boss

towards honesty and share with your boss

towards honesty and share with your boss or whoever you’re working for one day

or whoever you’re working for one day

or whoever you’re working for one day you’ve got your dream of starting your

you’ve got your dream of starting your

you’ve got your dream of starting your idea and you’ve got this business idea

idea and you’ve got this business idea

idea and you’ve got this business idea spending weekends and evenings on and

spending weekends and evenings on and

spending weekends and evenings on and you know might come a time if you’re

you know might come a time if you’re

you know might come a time if you’re successful that you step in and you’re

successful that you step in and you’re

successful that you step in and you’re like that that that boss to celebrate

like that that that boss to celebrate

like that that that boss to celebrate your success and wish all the well for

your success and wish all the well for

your success and wish all the well for the future now I would say human nature

the future now I would say human nature

the future now I would say human nature I’ve always said and people always

I’ve always said and people always

I’ve always said and people always surprise you on the positive so you

surprise you on the positive so you

surprise you on the positive so you might find a lot of the companies

might find a lot of the companies

might find a lot of the companies certainly when Benioff was there he got

certainly when Benioff was there he got

certainly when Benioff was there he got full support from Oracle in terms of

full support from Oracle in terms of

full support from Oracle in terms of these big idea there was no kind of

these big idea there was no kind of

these big idea there was no kind of perceived conflict and I think I think

perceived conflict and I think I think

perceived conflict and I think I think you know tree and BG I think it’s about

you know tree and BG I think it’s about

you know tree and BG I think it’s about giving yourself enough cash flow to pay

giving yourself enough cash flow to pay

giving yourself enough cash flow to pay the bills but as soon as your new idea

the bills but as soon as your new idea

the bills but as soon as your new idea takes off and gives you a subsistence

takes off and gives you a subsistence

takes off and gives you a subsistence level then you should go but also is

level then you should go but also is

level then you should go but also is it’s great in a startup business in and

it’s great in a startup business in and

it’s great in a startup business in and out of business I always tell everybody

out of business I always tell everybody

out of business I always tell everybody treat the company’s money as if it’s

treat the company’s money as if it’s

treat the company’s money as if it’s your own and I love I love you know is

your own and I love I love you know is

your own and I love I love you know is Evan talks to Bella’s hustlers I talk

Evan talks to Bella’s hustlers I talk

Evan talks to Bella’s hustlers I talk about like it’s great to actually run

about like it’s great to actually run

about like it’s great to actually run companies on fumes in some respects

companies on fumes in some respects

companies on fumes in some respects because if you really care about every

because if you really care about every

because if you really care about every dollar you’ll have a really good culture

dollar you’ll have a really good culture

dollar you’ll have a really good culture that you can then build in your company

that you can then build in your company

that you can then build in your company and make everybody to have the same

and make everybody to have the same

and make everybody to have the same values that you have so I think it’s

values that you have so I think it’s

values that you have so I think it’s good every now I just wanted to give you

good every now I just wanted to give you

good every now I just wanted to give you a bit of a personal comment there and

a bit of a personal comment there and

a bit of a personal comment there and you bring a very human perspective to

you bring a very human perspective to

you bring a very human perspective to living the life of dreams I don’t know

living the life of dreams I don’t know

living the life of dreams I don’t know what to say I always appreciate it man I

what to say I always appreciate it man I

what to say I always appreciate it man I love it I’m humbled I’m humbled and then

love it I’m humbled I’m humbled and then

love it I’m humbled I’m humbled and then I last four words which is rare I want

I last four words which is rare I want

I last four words which is rare I want to move on to a super fan of yours who’s

to move on to a super fan of yours who’s

to move on to a super fan of yours who’s asking the questions that you were

asking the questions that you were

asking the questions that you were talking about values he said Stephen

talking about values he said Stephen

talking about values he said Stephen so this is row as in Monroe Steven you

so this is row as in Monroe Steven you

so this is row as in Monroe Steven you are able to save sage and really turn

are able to save sage and really turn

are able to save sage and really turn the company around what is your one word

the company around what is your one word

the company around what is your one word core value and how did you use it to

core value and how did you use it to

core value and how did you use it to lead sage to success

lead sage to success

lead sage to success that’s a great question well I’d

that’s a great question well I’d

that’s a great question well I’d probably say authenticity that shall

probably say authenticity that shall

probably say authenticity that shall give you two words customers I’ve done

give you two words customers I’ve done

give you two words customers I’ve done everything from the get-go just love in

everything from the get-go just love in

everything from the get-go just love in living customers and how you make them

living customers and how you make them

living customers and how you make them delight it is you really kind of get

delight it is you really kind of get

delight it is you really kind of get your colleagues to believe in the vision

your colleagues to believe in the vision

your colleagues to believe in the vision the mission the noble cause we’re very

the mission the noble cause we’re very

the mission the noble cause we’re very lucky at Sage because you know we

lucky at Sage because you know we

lucky at Sage because you know we support you guys and when I and I spend

support you guys and when I and I spend

support you guys and when I and I spend a lot of time outside the office I’ve

a lot of time outside the office I’ve

a lot of time outside the office I’ve spent a lot of time meeting

spent a lot of time meeting

spent a lot of time meeting entrepreneurs and every time I meet

entrepreneurs and every time I meet

entrepreneurs and every time I meet entrepreneurs you know they connect my

entrepreneurs you know they connect my

entrepreneurs you know they connect my heart and their head and sometimes I got

heart and their head and sometimes I got

heart and their head and sometimes I got tears in my eyes when they tell me their

tears in my eyes when they tell me their

tears in my eyes when they tell me their stories this is a very emotional journey

stories this is a very emotional journey

stories this is a very emotional journey for them they’ve been on it’s a story of

for them they’ve been on it’s a story of

for them they’ve been on it’s a story of human sacrifice and that appeals to me

human sacrifice and that appeals to me

human sacrifice and that appeals to me and I think it appeals to all our

and I think it appeals to all our

and I think it appeals to all our colleagues so just a one word would be

colleagues so just a one word would be

colleagues so just a one word would be customers customers customers customers

customers customers customers customers

customers customers customers customers everything we do is about customers and

everything we do is about customers and

everything we do is about customers and I’m ro I think you know it’s really kind

I’m ro I think you know it’s really kind

I’m ro I think you know it’s really kind of what you said buys I just think we’ve

of what you said buys I just think we’ve

of what you said buys I just think we’ve got so much more to do it’s back to

got so much more to do it’s back to

got so much more to do it’s back to Evans point I’m never satisfied with

Evans point I’m never satisfied with

Evans point I’m never satisfied with myself I’m busting my chops saying it

myself I’m busting my chops saying it

myself I’m busting my chops saying it Steven even do better and we can but

Steven even do better and we can but

Steven even do better and we can but yeah we’ve made progress but I’m still

yeah we’ve made progress but I’m still

yeah we’ve made progress but I’m still not happy with where we are and you know

not happy with where we are and you know

not happy with where we are and you know I genuinely want our customers and

I genuinely want our customers and

I genuinely want our customers and sometimes you meet customers who are

sometimes you meet customers who are

sometimes you meet customers who are massive advocates and raving fans but I

massive advocates and raving fans but I

massive advocates and raving fans but I want all of our customers to be you know

want all of our customers to be you know

want all of our customers to be you know just turn around of me and saying

just turn around of me and saying

just turn around of me and saying because we know these the guys who are

because we know these the guys who are

because we know these the guys who are with us today out here Evan are the

with us today out here Evan are the

with us today out here Evan are the business heroes of the economy you’re

business heroes of the economy you’re

business heroes of the economy you’re the risk takers you’re the entrepreneurs

the risk takers you’re the entrepreneurs

the risk takers you’re the entrepreneurs you’re the crafters and you deserve

you’re the crafters and you deserve

you’re the crafters and you deserve awesome technology and you should put

awesome technology and you should put

awesome technology and you should put all your energy and to grow in your

all your energy and to grow in your

all your energy and to grow in your business winning new customers to grow

business winning new customers to grow

business winning new customers to grow in the top-line hiring more people you

in the top-line hiring more people you

in the top-line hiring more people you shouldn’t have to worry about technology

shouldn’t have to worry about technology

shouldn’t have to worry about technology we should take care of that there’s a

we should take care of that there’s a

we should take care of that there’s a follow-up question from row asking why

follow-up question from row asking why

follow-up question from row asking why would you recommend Sage accounting for

would you recommend Sage accounting for

would you recommend Sage accounting for small business /e com

small business /e com

small business /e com over QuickBooks and what features do you

over QuickBooks and what features do you

over QuickBooks and what features do you think small business owners will love

think small business owners will love

think small business owners will love about it I hear oh it’s great I’m gonna

about it I hear oh it’s great I’m gonna

about it I hear oh it’s great I’m gonna I’ll give you about a few seconds demo

I’ll give you about a few seconds demo

I’ll give you about a few seconds demo in a minute that way because this isn’t

in a minute that way because this isn’t

in a minute that way because this isn’t about you know sage we want to make it

about you know sage we want to make it

about you know sage we want to make it about you and your dreams and getting

about you and your dreams and getting

about you and your dreams and getting ready for next year but what you should

ready for next year but what you should

ready for next year but what you should do is kind of check out the web cam web

do is kind of check out the web cam web

do is kind of check out the web cam web site on Sage accounting there’s a number

site on Sage accounting there’s a number

site on Sage accounting there’s a number of loads of kind of features but at most

of loads of kind of features but at most

of loads of kind of features but at most of all I mean it’s great on kind of

of all I mean it’s great on kind of

of all I mean it’s great on kind of mobile we believe entrepreneurs on the

mobile we believe entrepreneurs on the

mobile we believe entrepreneurs on the move can run their business both from

move can run their business both from

move can run their business both from the palm of their hand or if they want

the palm of their hand or if they want

the palm of their hand or if they want to you know do on our laptops great

to you know do on our laptops great

to you know do on our laptops great usability fantastic product it’s all you

usability fantastic product it’s all you

usability fantastic product it’s all you know again I guess we’ve just done a lot

know again I guess we’ve just done a lot

know again I guess we’ve just done a lot of work actually I think ever might have

of work actually I think ever might have

of work actually I think ever might have seen somewhere around sage business

seen somewhere around sage business

seen somewhere around sage business cloud where we could be the one and only

cloud where we could be the one and only

cloud where we could be the one and only cloud platform that our customers will

cloud platform that our customers will

cloud platform that our customers will need for the whole of their life as they

need for the whole of their life as they

need for the whole of their life as they grow their business and we’ve got some

grow their business and we’ve got some

grow their business and we’ve got some amazing customers like we’ve got twenty

amazing customers like we’ve got twenty

amazing customers like we’ve got twenty thousand employees so as you grow your

thousand employees so as you grow your

thousand employees so as you grow your business when you get to a certain stage

business when you get to a certain stage

business when you get to a certain stage things like changing your accounting

things like changing your accounting

things like changing your accounting system honestly despite what some

system honestly despite what some

system honestly despite what some companies say it’s like open-heart

companies say it’s like open-heart

companies say it’s like open-heart surgery and we think we’ve got a

surgery and we think we’ve got a

surgery and we think we’ve got a responsibility as you grow your business

responsibility as you grow your business

responsibility as you grow your business and you expand your business to make

and you expand your business to make

and you expand your business to make that transition as easy as possible and

that transition as easy as possible and

that transition as easy as possible and for you guys not to worry about the

for you guys not to worry about the

for you guys not to worry about the technology and then the final thing Roe

technology and then the final thing Roe

technology and then the final thing Roe is because we’re nice guys okay

is because we’re nice guys okay

is because we’re nice guys okay you couldn’t believe how much we care so

you couldn’t believe how much we care so

you couldn’t believe how much we care so I tell you what if you become a customer

I tell you what if you become a customer

I tell you what if you become a customer of sage I’ve said this before any

of sage I’ve said this before any

of sage I’ve said this before any customer you know we’ve got over three

customer you know we’ve got over three

customer you know we’ve got over three million customers any customer who

million customers any customer who

million customers any customer who tweets dm’s me pings me a message on

tweets dm’s me pings me a message on

tweets dm’s me pings me a message on social calls me sends an email to me

social calls me sends an email to me

social calls me sends an email to me even they get an immediate response we

even they get an immediate response we

even they get an immediate response we we care so much about our customers

we care so much about our customers

we care so much about our customers being successful what you know whether

being successful what you know whether

being successful what you know whether it’s the end of tax yes is tax EEOC’s

it’s the end of tax yes is tax EEOC’s

it’s the end of tax yes is tax EEOC’s the year-end whether it’s they’re trying

the year-end whether it’s they’re trying

the year-end whether it’s they’re trying to pay their employees whether they’re

to pay their employees whether they’re

to pay their employees whether they’re trying to collect cash whatever they’re

trying to collect cash whatever they’re

trying to collect cash whatever they’re trying to do if they ever hit a problem

trying to do if they ever hit a problem

trying to do if they ever hit a problem then then we always will be standing

then then we always will be standing

then then we always will be standing with them shoulder to shoulder and again

with them shoulder to shoulder and again

with them shoulder to shoulder and again I think truthfully technology companies

I think truthfully technology companies

I think truthfully technology companies we’ve probably been guilty of this but

we’ve probably been guilty of this but

we’ve probably been guilty of this but just generally the technology industry

just generally the technology industry

just generally the technology industry it’s been great as selling sort of a

it’s been great as selling sort of a

it’s been great as selling sort of a vision but when it comes to fixing

vision but when it comes to fixing

vision but when it comes to fixing problems

problems

problems they’ve typically have not always been

they’ve typically have not always been

they’ve typically have not always been the best and the truth is for any

the best and the truth is for any

the best and the truth is for any journey I think Evan would vouch for

journey I think Evan would vouch for

journey I think Evan would vouch for this there’s always some bumps in the

this there’s always some bumps in the

this there’s always some bumps in the road nothing ever goes perfectly nothing

road nothing ever goes perfectly nothing

road nothing ever goes perfectly nothing ever goes perfectly to plan but I can

ever goes perfectly to plan but I can

ever goes perfectly to plan but I can guarantee if you ever hit a bump in the

guarantee if you ever hit a bump in the

guarantee if you ever hit a bump in the road with sage you can pick up the phone

road with sage you can pick up the phone

road with sage you can pick up the phone to me and we’ll jump on it we’ll be

to me and we’ll jump on it we’ll be

to me and we’ll jump on it we’ll be shoulder to shoulder to you and we’ll

shoulder to shoulder to you and we’ll

shoulder to shoulder to you and we’ll get you back in your business and

get you back in your business and

get you back in your business and focusing on what you love which is

focusing on what you love which is

focusing on what you love which is pursuing your passions as quick as we

pursuing your passions as quick as we

pursuing your passions as quick as we get I love it I would just add to just

get I love it I would just add to just

get I love it I would just add to just the simplicity a guy you safety in my

the simplicity a guy you safety in my

the simplicity a guy you safety in my business I only talk about the products

business I only talk about the products

business I only talk about the products that I actually use and I use QuickBooks

that I actually use and I use QuickBooks

that I actually use and I use QuickBooks I don’t know a while ago and a lot

I don’t know a while ago and a lot

I don’t know a while ago and a lot honest like a lot of the accounting

honest like a lot of the accounting

honest like a lot of the accounting software packages they do a lot of the

software packages they do a lot of the

software packages they do a lot of the same functionality most businesses are

same functionality most businesses are

same functionality most businesses are not super technical or unique crazy

not super technical or unique crazy

not super technical or unique crazy features it’s just you want to get in

features it’s just you want to get in

features it’s just you want to get in and get it done quickly like you don’t

and get it done quickly like you don’t

and get it done quickly like you don’t want to spend a ton of time doing your

want to spend a ton of time doing your

want to spend a ton of time doing your accounting right we have stuff to do and

accounting right we have stuff to do and

accounting right we have stuff to do and for me I just like how easy everything

for me I just like how easy everything

for me I just like how easy everything is to use it just makes sense you don’t

is to use it just makes sense you don’t

is to use it just makes sense you don’t have to be genius to be able to use it

have to be genius to be able to use it

have to be genius to be able to use it everything’s integrated with your bank

everything’s integrated with your bank

everything’s integrated with your bank and calculating taxes and all that stuff

and calculating taxes and all that stuff

and calculating taxes and all that stuff so on top of having an awesome visionary

so on top of having an awesome visionary

so on top of having an awesome visionary CEO and a great company culture I just

CEO and a great company culture I just

CEO and a great company culture I just love how easy the tool is to use and I

love how easy the tool is to use and I

love how easy the tool is to use and I use it all the time in my business that

use it all the time in my business that

use it all the time in my business that was great Thank You ro for the love

was great Thank You ro for the love

was great Thank You ro for the love buying fro let’s move on the Emmanuel

buying fro let’s move on the Emmanuel

buying fro let’s move on the Emmanuel Evan and Steven so you’re in London and

Evan and Steven so you’re in London and

Evan and Steven so you’re in London and Toronto is living in a big city an

Toronto is living in a big city an

Toronto is living in a big city an important part of your success hey

important part of your success hey

important part of your success hey that’s a great question actually and you

that’s a great question actually and you

that’s a great question actually and you know I’m really conscious a lot of you

know I’m really conscious a lot of you

know I’m really conscious a lot of you know a lot of startup businesses have

know a lot of startup businesses have

know a lot of startup businesses have gone to Toronto it’s probably one of the

gone to Toronto it’s probably one of the

gone to Toronto it’s probably one of the hot beds in North America now for

hot beds in North America now for

hot beds in North America now for startups and likewise London other

startups and likewise London other

startups and likewise London other cities like Berlin Paris

cities like Berlin Paris

cities like Berlin Paris Alcee New York so it is a factor I think

Alcee New York so it is a factor I think

Alcee New York so it is a factor I think you know what what is it that makes

you know what what is it that makes

you know what what is it that makes these cities I guess a vibrant hotbed

these cities I guess a vibrant hotbed

these cities I guess a vibrant hotbed for startups I think actually it’s about

for startups I think actually it’s about

for startups I think actually it’s about the network because if I’m living in you

the network because if I’m living in you

the network because if I’m living in you know pick pick the great country of

know pick pick the great country of

know pick pick the great country of Canada if I’m living out in Calgary or

Canada if I’m living out in Calgary or

Canada if I’m living out in Calgary or Winnipeg out in the plains they’re

Winnipeg out in the plains they’re

Winnipeg out in the plains they’re amazing people they’re amazing kind of

amazing people they’re amazing kind of

amazing people they’re amazing kind of business parks is there and credit

business parks is there and credit

business parks is there and credit Wi-Fi broadband yeah yeah there is

Wi-Fi broadband yeah yeah there is

Wi-Fi broadband yeah yeah there is everything’s there but there might not

everything’s there but there might not

everything’s there but there might not be in certainly in rural areas the kind

be in certainly in rural areas the kind

be in certainly in rural areas the kind of network of people you need in terms

of network of people you need in terms

of network of people you need in terms of mentorship experience coaching

of mentorship experience coaching

of mentorship experience coaching guidance and how you get that is I think

guidance and how you get that is I think

guidance and how you get that is I think you can be more proactive so if they’re

you can be more proactive so if they’re

you can be more proactive so if they’re on your door stop in a big city yeah

on your door stop in a big city yeah

on your door stop in a big city yeah it’s easier but I don’t think there’s

it’s easier but I don’t think there’s

it’s easier but I don’t think there’s anything to stop you if living in a kind

anything to stop you if living in a kind

anything to stop you if living in a kind of rural community being successful as

of rural community being successful as

of rural community being successful as an entrepreneur and obviously you know

an entrepreneur and obviously you know

an entrepreneur and obviously you know I’ve seen businesses launch in the last

I’ve seen businesses launch in the last

I’ve seen businesses launch in the last five years you know I just give you

five years you know I just give you

five years you know I just give you three or four businesses some of these

three or four businesses some of these

three or four businesses some of these have been in in cities but some of them

have been in in cities but some of them

have been in in cities but some of them haven’t this open door billion-dollar

haven’t this open door billion-dollar

haven’t this open door billion-dollar business wasn’t here five years ago

business wasn’t here five years ago

business wasn’t here five years ago obviously instacart

obviously instacart

obviously instacart again to billion-dollar business our

again to billion-dollar business our

again to billion-dollar business our personal shop in I wasn’t here five

personal shop in I wasn’t here five

personal shop in I wasn’t here five years ago sort of you before groceries

years ago sort of you before groceries

years ago sort of you before groceries and then another one pivotal another

and then another one pivotal another

and then another one pivotal another multi-billion dollar business these

multi-billion dollar business these

multi-billion dollar business these companies didn’t exist five years ago so

companies didn’t exist five years ago so

companies didn’t exist five years ago so the speed you can get your idea to

the speed you can get your idea to

the speed you can get your idea to market and create real high-value

market and create real high-value

market and create real high-value businesses there’s never been a better

businesses there’s never been a better

businesses there’s never been a better time and I would say yeah there’s the

time and I would say yeah there’s the

time and I would say yeah there’s the advantage cities have there’s an easy

advantage cities have there’s an easy

advantage cities have there’s an easy accessible network but if you’re again

accessible network but if you’re again

accessible network but if you’re again if you’re a proactive if you’re a bit of

if you’re a proactive if you’re a bit of

if you’re a proactive if you’re a bit of a hustler if you’re bold then you can

a hustler if you’re bold then you can

a hustler if you’re bold then you can create your own network you can create

create your own network you can create

create your own network you can create your own community and you can do that

your own community and you can do that

your own community and you can do that anywhere in the world and and the beauty

anywhere in the world and and the beauty

anywhere in the world and and the beauty is we’re in Toronto we’re in London ten

is we’re in Toronto we’re in London ten

is we’re in Toronto we’re in London ten years ago we couldn’t do this other

years ago we couldn’t do this other

years ago we couldn’t do this other stuff because the technology now

stuff because the technology now

stuff because the technology now technology you know whether it’s

technology you know whether it’s

technology you know whether it’s FaceTime whatever it is there’s just so

FaceTime whatever it is there’s just so

FaceTime whatever it is there’s just so much technology where you can create

much technology where you can create

much technology where you can create communities of multicultural multi

communities of multicultural multi

communities of multicultural multi language and you can get people together

language and you can get people together

language and you can get people together to support your big idea and what do you

to support your big idea and what do you

to support your big idea and what do you think you’re in Toronto yes I’m just

think you’re in Toronto yes I’m just

think you’re in Toronto yes I’m just thinking your corporate like your

thinking your corporate like your

thinking your corporate like your corporate headquarters is in this the

corporate headquarters is in this the

corporate headquarters is in this the shard you know the most prestigious

shard you know the most prestigious

shard you know the most prestigious building in London but most of your team

building in London but most of your team

building in London but most of your team is not in London right there and we got

is not in London right there and we got

is not in London right there and we got tub yeah we’ve got a big headquarters in

tub yeah we’ve got a big headquarters in

tub yeah we’ve got a big headquarters in new cars will go a couple of thousand

new cars will go a couple of thousand

new cars will go a couple of thousand people up there but you know it’s

people up there but you know it’s

people up there but you know it’s interesting I don’t think it’s funny I

interesting I don’t think it’s funny I

interesting I don’t think it’s funny I never think of a headquarters I think

never think of a headquarters I think

never think of a headquarters I think our people are wherever they need to be

our people are wherever they need to be

our people are wherever they need to be to serve

to serve

to serve our customers and where do i go i getta

our customers and where do i go i getta

our customers and where do i go i getta where our people are and our customers

where our people are and our customers

where our people are and our customers are and just that’s the philosophy so

are and just that’s the philosophy so

are and just that’s the philosophy so and I really don’t mind whether you know

and I really don’t mind whether you know

and I really don’t mind whether you know I’m we could be out in Richmond in in

I’m we could be out in Richmond in in

I’m we could be out in Richmond in in West Canada or we could be out in

West Canada or we could be out in

West Canada or we could be out in Toronto we could be anywhere and I do

Toronto we could be anywhere and I do

Toronto we could be anywhere and I do trips actually to kind of rural

trips actually to kind of rural

trips actually to kind of rural communities as well to see our customers

communities as well to see our customers

communities as well to see our customers because we’ve got customers who are in

because we’ve got customers who are in

because we’ve got customers who are in farming and all these sort of fantastic

farming and all these sort of fantastic

farming and all these sort of fantastic businesses and I think you just got to

businesses and I think you just got to

businesses and I think you just got to go where first of all where customers

go where first of all where customers

go where first of all where customers are obviously where the audience is

are obviously where the audience is

are obviously where the audience is where you can attract great people

where you can attract great people

where you can attract great people that’s important but now as well Evan

that’s important but now as well Evan

that’s important but now as well Evan you’re absolutely right because we don’t

you’re absolutely right because we don’t

you’re absolutely right because we don’t hire all our people in one location

hire all our people in one location

hire all our people in one location there’s so many amazing people around

there’s so many amazing people around

there’s so many amazing people around the world with great skills and and they

the world with great skills and and they

the world with great skills and and they enable through technology and

enable through technology and

enable through technology and communication to offer a very different

communication to offer a very different

communication to offer a very different sort of business model and a different

sort of business model and a different

sort of business model and a different landscape than what was possible 20

landscape than what was possible 20

landscape than what was possible 20 years ago um and and I think just you

years ago um and and I think just you

years ago um and and I think just you guys I’m kind of assuming most year

guys I’m kind of assuming most year

guys I’m kind of assuming most year Millennials you’re probably a lot of you

Millennials you’re probably a lot of you

Millennials you’re probably a lot of you under 30 and I think you think in a much

under 30 and I think you think in a much

under 30 and I think you think in a much more radical way now around this agenda

more radical way now around this agenda

more radical way now around this agenda where it’s all about flexibility it’s

where it’s all about flexibility it’s

where it’s all about flexibility it’s all about where you want to be living

all about where you want to be living

all about where you want to be living that really meets your sort of personal

that really meets your sort of personal

that really meets your sort of personal goals but you can i’m guarantee anywhere

goals but you can i’m guarantee anywhere

goals but you can i’m guarantee anywhere in Canada anywhere in the u.s. anywhere

in Canada anywhere in the u.s. anywhere

in Canada anywhere in the u.s. anywhere in the UK you could live and you could

in the UK you could live and you could

in the UK you could live and you could still I have a really good opportunity

still I have a really good opportunity

still I have a really good opportunity to you know follow your dreams get your

to you know follow your dreams get your

to you know follow your dreams get your idea to market and create a great

idea to market and create a great

idea to market and create a great business yeah you might take on that

business yeah you might take on that

business yeah you might take on that question I look at I look at customer

question I look at I look at customer

question I look at I look at customer suppliers at employees I so it depends

suppliers at employees I so it depends

suppliers at employees I so it depends on the type of business you’re running

on the type of business you’re running

on the type of business you’re running so can you can your customers be global

so can you can your customers be global

so can you can your customers be global if they can it doesn’t matter where you

if they can it doesn’t matter where you

if they can it doesn’t matter where you are if it has to be a local shop then

are if it has to be a local shop then

are if it has to be a local shop then obviously you need to have a local shop

obviously you need to have a local shop

obviously you need to have a local shop you know mice in my dancing business

you know mice in my dancing business

you know mice in my dancing business China dance salsa we need it’s a local

China dance salsa we need it’s a local

China dance salsa we need it’s a local place you need people around you as a

place you need people around you as a

place you need people around you as a retail store right so you need people

retail store right so you need people

retail store right so you need people coming in for making YouTube videos it

coming in for making YouTube videos it

coming in for making YouTube videos it could be anywhere in the world suppliers

could be anywhere in the world suppliers

could be anywhere in the world suppliers you know if you’re if you’re in the

you know if you’re if you’re in the

you know if you’re if you’re in the lumber business you want to be next to

lumber business you want to be next to

lumber business you want to be next to lumberyard right like it just depends on

lumberyard right like it just depends on

lumberyard right like it just depends on where you are for you to business like

where you are for you to business like

where you are for you to business like this my suppliers could be anywhere and

this my suppliers could be anywhere and

this my suppliers could be anywhere and then employees is just access to talent

then employees is just access to talent

then employees is just access to talent some cities have greater access to

some cities have greater access to

some cities have greater access to talent

talent

talent if you need to have an office and have

if you need to have an office and have

if you need to have an office and have people come in they may not be willing

people come in they may not be willing

people come in they may not be willing to relocate to some rural town but if

to relocate to some rural town but if

to relocate to some rural town but if you can hire online hire a remote then

you can hire online hire a remote then

you can hire online hire a remote then that could be a fantastic model so I

that could be a fantastic model so I

that could be a fantastic model so I think it depends on the business

think it depends on the business

think it depends on the business structure that you have the type of

structure that you have the type of

structure that you have the type of product you’re selling but I think it’s

product you’re selling but I think it’s

product you’re selling but I think it’s it matters less and less with every year

it matters less and less with every year

it matters less and less with every year matters less and less and less and less

matters less and less and less and less

matters less and less and less and less and less it’s less and less important

and less it’s less and less important

and less it’s less and less important you’ve been looking at Sage and a

you’ve been looking at Sage and a

you’ve been looking at Sage and a strategy around the sage summit you know

strategy around the sage summit you know

strategy around the sage summit you know a couple years ago the history was one

a couple years ago the history was one

a couple years ago the history was one big event one big city Atlanta Chicago

big event one big city Atlanta Chicago

big event one big city Atlanta Chicago and then last year how many did you do

and then last year how many did you do

and then last year how many did you do 20 yeah and we had 30,000 customers

20 yeah and we had 30,000 customers

20 yeah and we had 30,000 customers attend and this year is going even more

attend and this year is going even more

attend and this year is going even more kind of nationwide around all the

kind of nationwide around all the

kind of nationwide around all the countries we operate in so and and they

countries we operate in so and and they

countries we operate in so and and they tend to be I like in candor your great

tend to be I like in candor your great

tend to be I like in candor your great nation I love Canada

nation I love Canada

nation I love Canada so Evan Halifax ala facts Nova Scotia

so Evan Halifax ala facts Nova Scotia

so Evan Halifax ala facts Nova Scotia amazing place Winnipeg Calgary 20 cities

amazing place Winnipeg Calgary 20 cities

amazing place Winnipeg Calgary 20 cities across Canada we went on the road we

across Canada we went on the road we

across Canada we went on the road we went to where our people are where our

went to where our people are where our

went to where our people are where our customers are we went where the audience

customers are we went where the audience

customers are we went where the audience is and I think you can do that the other

is and I think you can do that the other

is and I think you can do that the other thing is very important there Evan so we

thing is very important there Evan so we

thing is very important there Evan so we started off with Chicago 15,000 people

started off with Chicago 15,000 people

started off with Chicago 15,000 people ever and show there was one of the best

ever and show there was one of the best

ever and show there was one of the best ever loved it it was fantastic so now

ever loved it it was fantastic so now

ever loved it it was fantastic so now the shows go on the road was a summit

the shows go on the road was a summit

the shows go on the road was a summit and there last week there were up I

and there last week there were up I

and there last week there were up I think in Birmingham in the UK and then

think in Birmingham in the UK and then

think in Birmingham in the UK and then they’ve got a whole raft of North

they’ve got a whole raft of North

they’ve got a whole raft of North American cities they’re going round two

American cities they’re going round two

American cities they’re going round two in 2018 I think if you can catch them

in 2018 I think if you can catch them

in 2018 I think if you can catch them check them out it’s all on the website

check them out it’s all on the website

check them out it’s all on the website the other thing I’d say Evan it’s

the other thing I’d say Evan it’s

the other thing I’d say Evan it’s interesting your point is kind of where

interesting your point is kind of where

interesting your point is kind of where the customers and what’s the business

the customers and what’s the business

the customers and what’s the business model we’ve got a few customers kind of

model we’ve got a few customers kind of

model we’ve got a few customers kind of an interesting business model they’ve

an interesting business model they’ve

an interesting business model they’ve got on really like they’re crashing its

got on really like they’re crashing its

got on really like they’re crashing its food and products food products and

food and products food products and

food and products food products and they’ve opened up a restaurant in their

they’ve opened up a restaurant in their

they’ve opened up a restaurant in their local town but they’ve actually built

local town but they’ve actually built

local town but they’ve actually built merchandising so they market the product

merchandising so they market the product

merchandising so they market the product through their website and they’ve

through their website and they’ve

through their website and they’ve truthfully they make more money through

truthfully they make more money through

truthfully they make more money through the merchandise and then they do through

the merchandise and then they do through

the merchandise and then they do through the restaurant and obviously kind of the

the restaurant and obviously kind of the

the restaurant and obviously kind of the merchandising can do what we love to see

merchandising can do what we love to see

merchandising can do what we love to see in terms of our top-line growth and

in terms of our top-line growth and

in terms of our top-line growth and obviously you’ve got very little fixed

obviously you’ve got very little fixed

obviously you’ve got very little fixed cost around merchants

cost around merchants

cost around merchants and whereas restaurants cost a lot of

and whereas restaurants cost a lot of

and whereas restaurants cost a lot of money you’ve got kind of real estate you

money you’ve got kind of real estate you

money you’ve got kind of real estate you got loads of stuff you got loads of

got loads of stuff you got loads of

got loads of stuff you got loads of stuff you’ve got to take on in terms of

stuff you’ve got to take on in terms of

stuff you’ve got to take on in terms of the cost base before you kind of hit to

the cost base before you kind of hit to

the cost base before you kind of hit to break even and I’m scared I’m a

break even and I’m scared I’m a

break even and I’m scared I’m a notoriously tough to actually scale

notoriously tough to actually scale

notoriously tough to actually scale multiple restaurants so it’s interesting

multiple restaurants so it’s interesting

multiple restaurants so it’s interesting you’ve got to think about what business

you’ve got to think about what business

you’ve got to think about what business model you got then where should it be

model you got then where should it be

model you got then where should it be located and it comes back to where the

located and it comes back to where the

located and it comes back to where the customers where your employees where the

customers where your employees where the

customers where your employees where the supplies and ultimately how do you scale

supplies and ultimately how do you scale

supplies and ultimately how do you scale it and grow it to go the next level and

it and grow it to go the next level and

it and grow it to go the next level and it’s interesting where you get these

it’s interesting where you get these

it’s interesting where you get these kind of multifaceted business models

kind of multifaceted business models

kind of multifaceted business models which is a restaurant and a product

which is a restaurant and a product

which is a restaurant and a product business merchandising and it’s just

business merchandising and it’s just

business merchandising and it’s just interesting where you’re gonna make

interesting where you’re gonna make

interesting where you’re gonna make money I like it well mind burst TV put

money I like it well mind burst TV put

money I like it well mind burst TV put in quotes I don’t think I’ve

in quotes I don’t think I’ve

in quotes I don’t think I’ve headquarters but I think of people whose

headquarters but I think of people whose

headquarters but I think of people whose needs we need to serve and then said I

needs we need to serve and then said I

needs we need to serve and then said I love that statement so if you’re looking

love that statement so if you’re looking

love that statement so if you’re looking for your next Instagram or a tweet out

for your next Instagram or a tweet out

for your next Instagram or a tweet out get get Darryl on it get some love on

get get Darryl on it get some love on

get get Darryl on it get some love on burst TV it’s already got evidence on it

burst TV it’s already got evidence on it

burst TV it’s already got evidence on it Darryl’s on it he’s done

Darryl’s on it he’s done

Darryl’s on it he’s done Salima is writing in to say evidenced

Salima is writing in to say evidenced

Salima is writing in to say evidenced even if you could do one thing every

even if you could do one thing every

even if you could do one thing every year to ensure success what would that

year to ensure success what would that

year to ensure success what would that be always do what you said always

be always do what you said always

be always do what you said always meeting your commitments to yourself I

meeting your commitments to yourself I

meeting your commitments to yourself I guess but ultimately customers so so and

guess but ultimately customers so so and

guess but ultimately customers so so and why do I say that Salima it’s time ever

why do I say that Salima it’s time ever

why do I say that Salima it’s time ever and opened up saying ultimately it was

and opened up saying ultimately it was

and opened up saying ultimately it was kind of great words to just have a plan

kind of great words to just have a plan

kind of great words to just have a plan and the plan just could be for today but

and the plan just could be for today but

and the plan just could be for today but it’s hats focus well what am I going to

it’s hats focus well what am I going to

it’s hats focus well what am I going to achieve today or what am I going to

achieve today or what am I going to

achieve today or what am I going to achieve this week or what I won’t

achieve this week or what I won’t

achieve this week or what I won’t achieve this month and what does that

achieve this month and what does that

achieve this month and what does that mean to our customers and Salima if you

mean to our customers and Salima if you

mean to our customers and Salima if you do that and there’s one thing you

do that and there’s one thing you

do that and there’s one thing you actually take that off and say we kind

actually take that off and say we kind

actually take that off and say we kind of blew through that that’s probably the

of blew through that that’s probably the

of blew through that that’s probably the one thing that you may make sure you do

one thing that you may make sure you do

one thing that you may make sure you do now if you don’t and not everything goes

now if you don’t and not everything goes

now if you don’t and not everything goes perfectly and now everything goes to

perfectly and now everything goes to

perfectly and now everything goes to plan then what do we learn what what

plan then what do we learn what what

plan then what do we learn what what happened you know what went well but

happened you know what went well but

happened you know what went well but what what would been even better is if

what what would been even better is if

what what would been even better is if we’re done something differently you

we’re done something differently you

we’re done something differently you know maybe like if we’re in a web

know maybe like if we’re in a web

know maybe like if we’re in a web business SEO optimization or social

business SEO optimization or social

business SEO optimization or social media or you know channel mix or

media or you know channel mix or

media or you know channel mix or whatever it is what is it we would

whatever it is what is it we would

whatever it is what is it we would change

change

change based on our experience of what didn’t

based on our experience of what didn’t

based on our experience of what didn’t go so well that would allow us to get

go so well that would allow us to get

go so well that would allow us to get much better results next time and we

much better results next time and we

much better results next time and we talked about it in terms of course

talked about it in terms of course

talked about it in terms of course correction so everything I think in a

correction so everything I think in a

correction so everything I think in a startup business should be agile

startup business should be agile

startup business should be agile everything in a big company like us

everything in a big company like us

everything in a big company like us should be agile and it’s not just the

should be agile and it’s not just the

should be agile and it’s not just the way we develop products is every

way we develop products is every

way we develop products is every function should be agile so when you

function should be agile so when you

function should be agile so when you think as an entrepreneur think on your

think as an entrepreneur think on your

think as an entrepreneur think on your feet put a plan together have an end

feet put a plan together have an end

feet put a plan together have an end result on it time box it and then

result on it time box it and then

result on it time box it and then execute the hell out of it and then

execute the hell out of it and then

execute the hell out of it and then either congratulate yourself and go on

either congratulate yourself and go on

either congratulate yourself and go on to the next one learning even more and

to the next one learning even more and

to the next one learning even more and growing even faster or if not then what

growing even faster or if not then what

growing even faster or if not then what do you need to do to course-corrected to

do you need to do to course-corrected to

do you need to do to course-corrected to get it back on track I like it we’re

get it back on track I like it we’re

get it back on track I like it we’re getting a lot of love in the chat thank

getting a lot of love in the chat thank

getting a lot of love in the chat thank you love it thanks Steven so believe

you love it thanks Steven so believe

you love it thanks Steven so believe Nations a fan what would one thing I

Nations a fan what would one thing I

Nations a fan what would one thing I would do each year to ensure success I

would do each year to ensure success I

would do each year to ensure success I approached it from a mindset perspective

approached it from a mindset perspective

approached it from a mindset perspective I think the more that I can hang around

I think the more that I can hang around

I think the more that I can hang around people who challenge me to do more I

people who challenge me to do more I

people who challenge me to do more I think I think that always ensures my

think I think that always ensures my

think I think that always ensures my success so I think the more talks I have

success so I think the more talks I have

success so I think the more talks I have a Steven the more I watch a Steve Jobs

a Steven the more I watch a Steve Jobs

a Steven the more I watch a Steve Jobs video or the more read a biography of

video or the more read a biography of

video or the more read a biography of somebody just constantly making sure

somebody just constantly making sure

somebody just constantly making sure that there’s people resources in your

that there’s people resources in your

that there’s people resources in your environment that push you to think

environment that push you to think

environment that push you to think bigger be bolder play a larger game I

bigger be bolder play a larger game I

bigger be bolder play a larger game I think making sure that I would say not

think making sure that I would say not

think making sure that I would say not even just once a year but that’s it’s a

even just once a year but that’s it’s a

even just once a year but that’s it’s a constant thing that you have things that

constant thing that you have things that

constant thing that you have things that challenge you and stretch you I think

challenge you and stretch you I think

challenge you and stretch you I think that is something that I try to do to

that is something that I try to do to

that is something that I try to do to maintain my success each year yeah

maintain my success each year yeah

maintain my success each year yeah actually every one other thing I think

actually every one other thing I think

actually every one other thing I think as you grow and you become more

as you grow and you become more

as you grow and you become more successful some companies kind of Leaves

successful some companies kind of Leaves

successful some companies kind of Leaves lose a sense of purpose and the sense of

lose a sense of purpose and the sense of

lose a sense of purpose and the sense of purpose is always described by two

purpose is always described by two

purpose is always described by two communities it’s your colleagues the

communities it’s your colleagues the

communities it’s your colleagues the people who work for you and with you and

people who work for you and with you and

people who work for you and with you and it’s your customers so and it’s so easy

it’s your customers so and it’s so easy

it’s your customers so and it’s so easy in a bigger company to go to all these

in a bigger company to go to all these

in a bigger company to go to all these internal meetings and you you know the

internal meetings and you you know the

internal meetings and you you know the end the day you kind of think what did I

end the day you kind of think what did I

end the day you kind of think what did I achieve today if I and if those meetings

achieve today if I and if those meetings

achieve today if I and if those meetings hadn’t existed would it have changed the

hadn’t existed would it have changed the

hadn’t existed would it have changed the world for our customers so one thing I

world for our customers so one thing I

world for our customers so one thing I don’t always do is you get more and more

don’t always do is you get more and more

don’t always do is you get more and more successful and I do this not only every

successful and I do this not only every

successful and I do this not only every year but I do this every month

year but I do this every month

year but I do this every month go back to the people you love that you

go back to the people you love that you

go back to the people you love that you started your idea and your dream for and

started your idea and your dream for and

started your idea and your dream for and that’s your customers go and if and

that’s your customers go and if and

that’s your customers go and if and either face time and so I just want to

either face time and so I just want to

either face time and so I just want to catch up with you I just want your

catch up with you I just want your

catch up with you I just want your feedback how you doing with our product

feedback how you doing with our product

feedback how you doing with our product what could we do to improve it for you

what could we do to improve it for you

what could we do to improve it for you you know good and and you know maybe get

you know good and and you know maybe get

you know good and and you know maybe get it as you build your firm as you build

it as you build your firm as you build

it as you build your firm as you build your business as you build your company

your business as you build your company

your business as you build your company you you you could even I’ve talked about

you you you could even I’ve talked about

you you you could even I’ve talked about this before maybe give I don’t know your

this before maybe give I don’t know your

this before maybe give I don’t know your top ten customers who are the thought

top ten customers who are the thought

top ten customers who are the thought leaders who will move the whole market

leaders who will move the whole market

leaders who will move the whole market maybe give them a tiny bit of stock in

maybe give them a tiny bit of stock in

maybe give them a tiny bit of stock in your company but part of the deal is

your company but part of the deal is

your company but part of the deal is they become references they go on your

they become references they go on your

they become references they go on your website and every month or every quarter

website and every month or every quarter

website and every month or every quarter they do a kind of check in with you what

they do a kind of check in with you what

they do a kind of check in with you what do we need to do next in terms of

do we need to do next in terms of

do we need to do next in terms of innovation what how can we leave the

innovation what how can we leave the

innovation what how can we leave the competition behind and so I’d always the

competition behind and so I’d always the

competition behind and so I’d always the one thing I do every year every month

one thing I do every year every month

one thing I do every year every month every week every every day is make sure

every week every every day is make sure

every week every every day is make sure you bring the customer in the room and

you bring the customer in the room and

you bring the customer in the room and and as you know I don’t know you get to

and as you know I don’t know you get to

and as you know I don’t know you get to 20 people 30 people I’ve known kind of

20 people 30 people I’ve known kind of

20 people 30 people I’ve known kind of chief executives sort of start losing

chief executives sort of start losing

chief executives sort of start losing touch because you get drawn into

touch because you get drawn into

touch because you get drawn into internal stuff I’d always say go back to

internal stuff I’d always say go back to

internal stuff I’d always say go back to why you exist in Amway starting your

why you exist in Amway starting your

why you exist in Amway starting your business the first place that’s to serve

business the first place that’s to serve

business the first place that’s to serve customers with your big idea feeling the

customers with your big idea feeling the

customers with your big idea feeling the customer love just oozing out of Stephen

customer love just oozing out of Stephen

customer love just oozing out of Stephen Kelley’s veins I love it next up is

Kelley’s veins I love it next up is

Kelley’s veins I love it next up is Orion Husain Stephen and Evan which kind

Orion Husain Stephen and Evan which kind

Orion Husain Stephen and Evan which kind of people should you hire for your

of people should you hire for your

of people should you hire for your startup highly talented individuals with

startup highly talented individuals with

startup highly talented individuals with no real passion or normal talented

no real passion or normal talented

no real passion or normal talented people with the burning passion for the

people with the burning passion for the

people with the burning passion for the startup I think in the early stage I

startup I think in the early stage I

startup I think in the early stage I think it changes over time

think it changes over time

think it changes over time Iran in the early stages there’s a few

Iran in the early stages there’s a few

Iran in the early stages there’s a few things and everyone will have some great

things and everyone will have some great

things and everyone will have some great great insight here I aren’t hard people

great insight here I aren’t hard people

great insight here I aren’t hard people with passion odd people yeah and I’d

with passion odd people yeah and I’d

with passion odd people yeah and I’d tell them it’s almost like the pitch so

tell them it’s almost like the pitch so

tell them it’s almost like the pitch so imagine your business and you’ve got a

imagine your business and you’ve got a

imagine your business and you’ve got a fantastic business in five years time

fantastic business in five years time

fantastic business in five years time and you know you’re a major brand what’s

and you know you’re a major brand what’s

and you know you’re a major brand what’s up on the wall say and why you existed

up on the wall say and why you existed

up on the wall say and why you existed and what what’s the sense of purpose

and what what’s the sense of purpose

and what what’s the sense of purpose what’s the mission so you should tell

what’s the mission so you should tell

what’s the mission so you should tell people in the interview process you know

people in the interview process you know

people in the interview process you know that’s the mission that’s what we’re

that’s the mission that’s what we’re

that’s the mission that’s what we’re here this is how we’re going to change

here this is how we’re going to change

here this is how we’re going to change this is why I get excited and get up at

this is why I get excited and get up at

this is why I get excited and get up at 6 o’clock every morning if they get your

6 o’clock every morning if they get your

6 o’clock every morning if they get your passion you’re you you’re gonna be sick

passion you’re you you’re gonna be sick

passion you’re you you’re gonna be sick you’re gonna have a great chance of

you’re gonna have a great chance of

you’re gonna have a great chance of being successful if they don’t get your

being successful if they don’t get your

being successful if they don’t get your passion and they don’t get the passion

passion and they don’t get the passion

passion and they don’t get the passion for the big idea then I I think it’s

for the big idea then I I think it’s

for the big idea then I I think it’s just nice to be polite and finish the

just nice to be polite and finish the

just nice to be polite and finish the conversation there and find someone

conversation there and find someone

conversation there and find someone who’s passionate I think they have to

who’s passionate I think they have to

who’s passionate I think they have to have your passion then that’s the really

have your passion then that’s the really

have your passion then that’s the really important thing as well is I think you

important thing as well is I think you

important thing as well is I think you need to sort of profile yourself what

need to sort of profile yourself what

need to sort of profile yourself what are you really good at um none of us are

are you really good at um none of us are

are you really good at um none of us are good at everything so you know you good

good at everything so you know you good

good at everything so you know you good at marketing and you’ve got ideas you’ve

at marketing and you’ve got ideas you’ve

at marketing and you’ve got ideas you’ve got a product development you’ve got a

got a product development you’ve got a

got a product development you’ve got a website are you good in terms of kind of

website are you good in terms of kind of

website are you good in terms of kind of run of the book spam paying the bills

run of the book spam paying the bills

run of the book spam paying the bills keep it the cash flow going all these

keep it the cash flow going all these

keep it the cash flow going all these sort of things I’ll ask yourself what

sort of things I’ll ask yourself what

sort of things I’ll ask yourself what really gets you excited and this is

really gets you excited and this is

really gets you excited and this is where you have to be true to yourself

where you have to be true to yourself

where you have to be true to yourself don’t don’t kind of fake it so because

don’t don’t kind of fake it so because

don’t don’t kind of fake it so because we’re all different and some people like

we’re all different and some people like

we’re all different and some people like assails are marked and they love to get

assails are marked and they love to get

assails are marked and they love to get out they were customers some people kind

out they were customers some people kind

out they were customers some people kind of want to build structure and you know

of want to build structure and you know

of want to build structure and you know have a good finance very you know all

have a good finance very you know all

have a good finance very you know all that sort of stuff now the reason why

that sort of stuff now the reason why

that sort of stuff now the reason why I’m saying that Iran is you want to

I’m saying that Iran is you want to

I’m saying that Iran is you want to surround yourself probably in the early

surround yourself probably in the early

surround yourself probably in the early stages with people who have who share

stages with people who have who share

stages with people who have who share the passion but people who complement

the passion but people who complement

the passion but people who complement your gaps so if you look at yourself and

your gaps so if you look at yourself and

your gaps so if you look at yourself and say actually that’s a gap I need someone

say actually that’s a gap I need someone

say actually that’s a gap I need someone who can do a great job of customer

who can do a great job of customer

who can do a great job of customer service because I’m not you know what I

service because I’m not you know what I

service because I’m not you know what I am is I am great at going out this isn’t

am is I am great at going out this isn’t

am is I am great at going out this isn’t about me this is just a hypothetical

about me this is just a hypothetical

about me this is just a hypothetical situation but I am great ago now and

situation but I am great ago now and

situation but I am great ago now and building a compelling kind of value

building a compelling kind of value

building a compelling kind of value proposition around my big idea and

proposition around my big idea and

proposition around my big idea and putting out on the website and

putting out on the website and

putting out on the website and attracting loads of customers one not

attracting loads of customers one not

attracting loads of customers one not very good at is getting those customers

very good at is getting those customers

very good at is getting those customers on-boarded live get customer

on-boarded live get customer

on-boarded live get customer satisfaction through the roof but that’s

satisfaction through the roof but that’s

satisfaction through the roof but that’s something that’s really important to my

something that’s really important to my

something that’s really important to my success as a business so I need someone

success as a business so I need someone

success as a business so I need someone who’s going to do that follow-up because

who’s going to do that follow-up because

who’s going to do that follow-up because I need to go and get the next wave of

I need to go and get the next wave of

I need to go and get the next wave of customers so I think kind of number one

customers so I think kind of number one

customers so I think kind of number one they have to show your passion number

they have to show your passion number

they have to show your passion number two you should really look hard of

two you should really look hard of

two you should really look hard of yourself and what you’re really

yourself and what you’re really

yourself and what you’re really competent at and what you’re really good

competent at and what you’re really good

competent at and what you’re really good at and what what really is your DNA and

at and what what really is your DNA and

at and what what really is your DNA and then surround yourself with the next

then surround yourself with the next

then surround yourself with the next hire who compliments you and delivers

hire who compliments you and delivers

hire who compliments you and delivers the most

the most

the most important impact for the growth of your

important impact for the growth of your

important impact for the growth of your business yeah when I think about

business yeah when I think about

business yeah when I think about questions like this I think of Jim

questions like this I think of Jim

questions like this I think of Jim Collins and embrace the genius at the

Collins and embrace the genius at the

Collins and embrace the genius at the end whenever you put like do I do this

end whenever you put like do I do this

end whenever you put like do I do this or do this like the answer is both you

or do this like the answer is both you

or do this like the answer is both you know to have a successful business it’s

know to have a successful business it’s

know to have a successful business it’s going to be depend on your team as you

going to be depend on your team as you

going to be depend on your team as you build up the amount that you contribute

build up the amount that you contribute

build up the amount that you contribute goes it decreases as you build up your

goes it decreases as you build up your

goes it decreases as you build up your team right so you need to have stars on

team right so you need to have stars on

team right so you need to have stars on your team and so the challenge is if you

your team and so the challenge is if you

your team and so the challenge is if you hire somebody who has passion but then

hire somebody who has passion but then

hire somebody who has passion but then doesn’t have any skills you have

doesn’t have any skills you have

doesn’t have any skills you have somebody who’s like really committed but

somebody who’s like really committed but

somebody who’s like really committed but isn’t isn’t giving you the output and

isn’t isn’t giving you the output and

isn’t isn’t giving you the output and then somebody who has the talent but

then somebody who has the talent but

then somebody who has the talent but doesn’t have passion you’re never going

doesn’t have passion you’re never going

doesn’t have passion you’re never going to win their hearts and souls and so now

to win their hearts and souls and so now

to win their hearts and souls and so now you’re stuck with a good person instead

you’re stuck with a good person instead

you’re stuck with a good person instead of going for somebody who’s potentially

of going for somebody who’s potentially

of going for somebody who’s potentially great and you need a great team to be

great and you need a great team to be

great and you need a great team to be able to build up and so whenever faced

able to build up and so whenever faced

able to build up and so whenever faced with those kind of this or this question

with those kind of this or this question

with those kind of this or this question I would challenge all of you to think

I would challenge all of you to think

I would challenge all of you to think about the end how do I make both of

about the end how do I make both of

about the end how do I make both of these things happen and it’s worth the

these things happen and it’s worth the

these things happen and it’s worth the time to find that one person who is the

time to find that one person who is the

time to find that one person who is the end than to hire three people who are

end than to hire three people who are

end than to hire three people who are just good and then you’re getting

just good and then you’re getting

just good and then you’re getting mediocre results as you go down another

mediocre results as you go down another

mediocre results as you go down another I teach I just apply that to every or

I teach I just apply that to every or

I teach I just apply that to every or this or this question quickly from

this or this question quickly from

this or this question quickly from Tamara C when she’s writing in to say

Tamara C when she’s writing in to say

Tamara C when she’s writing in to say there’s nothing like hearing SK talk

there’s nothing like hearing SK talk

there’s nothing like hearing SK talk about his love for customers he loves

about his love for customers he loves

about his love for customers he loves his customer know he loves his customers

his customer know he loves his customers

his customer know he loves his customers heart from his heart and like three

heart from his heart and like three

heart from his heart and like three heart emojis coming in so lemma thanks

heart emojis coming in so lemma thanks

heart emojis coming in so lemma thanks Tamara you know I think I’m actually

Tamara you know I think I’m actually

Tamara you know I think I’m actually ever not talked about it yeah I just get

ever not talked about it yeah I just get

ever not talked about it yeah I just get so excited about you know customers and

so excited about you know customers and

so excited about you know customers and when you’re here I spend a lot of time

when you’re here I spend a lot of time

when you’re here I spend a lot of time when you hear their love their passion

when you hear their love their passion

when you hear their love their passion and you know some of these customers

and you know some of these customers

and you know some of these customers have been in business two years some of

have been in business two years some of

have been in business two years some of them 20 years and they still Wow they

them 20 years and they still Wow they

them 20 years and they still Wow they still feel that energy about their dream

still feel that energy about their dream

still feel that energy about their dream and their business and being their own

and their business and being their own

and their business and being their own boss and all these silly things and and

boss and all these silly things and and

boss and all these silly things and and you know I just I’m in all of them so

you know I just I’m in all of them so

you know I just I’m in all of them so I’m very privileged and I’m very lucky

I’m very privileged and I’m very lucky

I’m very privileged and I’m very lucky and very humble actually to serve them

and very humble actually to serve them

and very humble actually to serve them and just hopefully always be a great

and just hopefully always be a great

and just hopefully always be a great partner to I think that’s a really

partner to I think that’s a really

partner to I think that’s a really important point too and that

important point too and that

important point too and that and building a team like you guys here

and building a team like you guys here

and building a team like you guys here how much Steven loves customers and in

how much Steven loves customers and in

how much Steven loves customers and in every episode you guys are the hardcore

every episode you guys are the hardcore

every episode you guys are the hardcore fans you’ve seen him talk every episode

fans you’ve seen him talk every episode

fans you’ve seen him talk every episode about customers it’s not just talking to

about customers it’s not just talking to

about customers it’s not just talking to something he actually feels and so

something he actually feels and so

something he actually feels and so building a team up around people who

building a team up around people who

building a team up around people who love customers like you could be a

love customers like you could be a

love customers like you could be a really talented marketer or really

really talented marketer or really

really talented marketer or really talented programmer but if you don’t

talented programmer but if you don’t

talented programmer but if you don’t care about the sage customer that this

care about the sage customer that this

care about the sage customer that this product is going to be in the hands of

product is going to be in the hands of

product is going to be in the hands of then there’s not a there’s not a place

then there’s not a there’s not a place

then there’s not a there’s not a place for you like this isn’t that right

for you like this isn’t that right

for you like this isn’t that right company to be a part of you have to love

company to be a part of you have to love

company to be a part of you have to love customers to be in this business and I

customers to be in this business and I

customers to be in this business and I think when people can understand what

think when people can understand what

think when people can understand what that value is then it’s easy to attract

that value is then it’s easy to attract

that value is then it’s easy to attract the right people to the business – yeah

the right people to the business – yeah

the right people to the business – yeah I think I actually have another thing

I think I actually have another thing

I think I actually have another thing about hiring people is sort of related

about hiring people is sort of related

about hiring people is sort of related is and you’ve talked about is it’s the

is and you’ve talked about is it’s the

is and you’ve talked about is it’s the values you want you want the next

values you want you want the next

values you want you want the next generation to have the same values that

generation to have the same values that

generation to have the same values that you care about that customers about

you care about that customers about

you care about that customers about winning about growth about all that

winning about growth about all that

winning about growth about all that growth mindset and and people who

growth mindset and and people who

growth mindset and and people who generally are optimistic I think great

generally are optimistic I think great

generally are optimistic I think great entrepreneurs and early-stage companies

entrepreneurs and early-stage companies

entrepreneurs and early-stage companies are full of amazing optimists you kind

are full of amazing optimists you kind

are full of amazing optimists you kind of don’t want someone who’s gonna tell

of don’t want someone who’s gonna tell

of don’t want someone who’s gonna tell you a thousand reasons and why you can’t

you a thousand reasons and why you can’t

you a thousand reasons and why you can’t do stuff you want people to say yeah

do stuff you want people to say yeah

do stuff you want people to say yeah there’s loads of issues all you want

there’s loads of issues all you want

there’s loads of issues all you want people actually and something I do in

people actually and something I do in

people actually and something I do in interviews when I interview people

interviews when I interview people

interviews when I interview people sometimes I ask them this question I say

sometimes I ask them this question I say

sometimes I ask them this question I say tell me what’s been the worst worst

tell me what’s been the worst worst

tell me what’s been the worst worst worst day of your life professionally in

worst day of your life professionally in

worst day of your life professionally in business what’s the worst day and then

business what’s the worst day and then

business what’s the worst day and then how did you overcome it and you’ll get a

how did you overcome it and you’ll get a

how did you overcome it and you’ll get a great sense you know coz experience and

great sense you know coz experience and

great sense you know coz experience and attitude overcoming adversity we all

attitude overcoming adversity we all

attitude overcoming adversity we all know it is tough being the start of is

know it is tough being the start of is

know it is tough being the start of is tough and there’s some amazing days and

tough and there’s some amazing days and

tough and there’s some amazing days and days when you’re doing kind of

days when you’re doing kind of

days when you’re doing kind of somersaults when you leave and some days

somersaults when you leave and some days

somersaults when you leave and some days we you know you think oh this is really

we you know you think oh this is really

we you know you think oh this is really a grind but you don’t want to be

a grind but you don’t want to be

a grind but you don’t want to be surrounded by people who just say yes to

surrounded by people who just say yes to

surrounded by people who just say yes to you but you and you didn’t want to

you but you and you didn’t want to

you but you and you didn’t want to challenge from them but you do want them

challenge from them but you do want them

challenge from them but you do want them to be optimists and winners because

to be optimists and winners because

to be optimists and winners because because winners attract winners and then

because winners attract winners and then

because winners attract winners and then the other thing is to always have people

the other thing is to always have people

the other thing is to always have people bet on yourself and you will find you

bet on yourself and you will find you

bet on yourself and you will find you because you’ve got to think ahead in two

because you’ve got to think ahead in two

because you’ve got to think ahead in two years time these people you’re hiring

years time these people you’re hiring

years time these people you’re hiring today will be hiring you know three or

today will be hiring you know three or

today will be hiring you know three or four people themselves

four people themselves

four people themselves so will they attract the next generation

so will they attract the next generation

so will they attract the next generation for years you’ve grown Skelly company

for years you’ve grown Skelly company

for years you’ve grown Skelly company and will they do with integrity and the

and will they do with integrity and the

and will they do with integrity and the values that you hold true to yourself I

values that you hold true to yourself I

values that you hold true to yourself I love it

love it

love it well you give you a lot more love in the

well you give you a lot more love in the

well you give you a lot more love in the comments thank you excellent advice and

comments thank you excellent advice and

comments thank you excellent advice and insight Wow good dialogue I’m a huge fan

insight Wow good dialogue I’m a huge fan

insight Wow good dialogue I’m a huge fan getting some good love here

getting some good love here

getting some good love here the next question ties into that that

the next question ties into that that

the next question ties into that that idea around mindset so comes from Rick

idea around mindset so comes from Rick

idea around mindset so comes from Rick and he says question for both of you

and he says question for both of you

and he says question for both of you what are some common mindsets that you

what are some common mindsets that you

what are some common mindsets that you would suggest that people need to change

would suggest that people need to change

would suggest that people need to change or adopt to start seeing a better

or adopt to start seeing a better

or adopt to start seeing a better business and culture and 2018 so I think

business and culture and 2018 so I think

business and culture and 2018 so I think hey Rick it’s good question I think

hey Rick it’s good question I think

hey Rick it’s good question I think mindset is really important so generally

mindset is really important so generally

mindset is really important so generally I think all the entrepreneurs I meet are

I think all the entrepreneurs I meet are

I think all the entrepreneurs I meet are just amazing optimists great lovers of

just amazing optimists great lovers of

just amazing optimists great lovers of life so the sort of mindset here you can

life so the sort of mindset here you can

life so the sort of mindset here you can read about this there’s there’s things

read about this there’s there’s things

read about this there’s there’s things called the growth mindset and actually

called the growth mindset and actually

called the growth mindset and actually kind of the other the other one is day

kind of the other the other one is day

kind of the other the other one is day one mindset and and it just talks about

one mindset and and it just talks about

one mindset and and it just talks about doing some doing the basics really well

doing some doing the basics really well

doing some doing the basics really well it talks about putting customers first

it talks about putting customers first

it talks about putting customers first it talks about execution it talks about

it talks about execution it talks about

it talks about execution it talks about a lot of things we’ve said but it really

a lot of things we’ve said but it really

a lot of things we’ve said but it really encapsulates it and very easy to

encapsulates it and very easy to

encapsulates it and very easy to understand a language that you can then

understand a language that you can then

understand a language that you can then reflect in terms of your mindset but

reflect in terms of your mindset but

reflect in terms of your mindset but also then your actions and attitude so I

also then your actions and attitude so I

also then your actions and attitude so I think you want to be you want to be out

think you want to be you want to be out

think you want to be you want to be out there with winners and you’ll attract

there with winners and you’ll attract

there with winners and you’ll attract winners and I think mindset is really

winners and I think mindset is really

winners and I think mindset is really important because you’ve not got to only

important because you’ve not got to only

important because you’ve not got to only believe yourself and I love that hashtag

believe yourself and I love that hashtag

believe yourself and I love that hashtag believe Evan if you believe you’ll

believe Evan if you believe you’ll

believe Evan if you believe you’ll inspire not only colleagues but you’ll

inspire not only colleagues but you’ll

inspire not only colleagues but you’ll inspire your customers and they’ll

inspire your customers and they’ll

inspire your customers and they’ll believe with you and that’s a very very

believe with you and that’s a very very

believe with you and that’s a very very powerful combination what do you think

powerful combination what do you think

powerful combination what do you think Evan yeah I love it growth mindset day

Evan yeah I love it growth mindset day

Evan yeah I love it growth mindset day one mindset a huge fan of both to add I

one mindset a huge fan of both to add I

one mindset a huge fan of both to add I would say just the mindset of taking

would say just the mindset of taking

would say just the mindset of taking responsibility for where you’re at I

responsibility for where you’re at I

responsibility for where you’re at I think I think the people who achieve are

think I think the people who achieve are

think I think the people who achieve are not complainers you don’t complain about

not complainers you don’t complain about

not complainers you don’t complain about the government or the president or taxes

the government or the president or taxes

the government or the president or taxes or whatever because as long as it’s

or whatever because as long as it’s

or whatever because as long as it’s somebody else’s fault then you don’t

somebody else’s fault then you don’t

somebody else’s fault then you don’t have to do anything and I think the

have to do anything and I think the

have to do anything and I think the people who succeed yes they have

people who succeed yes they have

people who succeed yes they have challenges and often the people who

challenges and often the people who

challenges and often the people who succeed had the most challenges growing

succeed had the most challenges growing

succeed had the most challenges growing up and over

up and over

up and over insane adversity to Stevens question

insane adversity to Stevens question

insane adversity to Stevens question around what was the biggest problem that

around what was the biggest problem that

around what was the biggest problem that you faced and how did you overcome it

you faced and how did you overcome it

you faced and how did you overcome it you’ll find that the the people who

you’ll find that the the people who

you’ll find that the the people who overcame huge odds had every reason to

overcame huge odds had every reason to

overcame huge odds had every reason to give up the people have the most success

give up the people have the most success

give up the people have the most success had had every reason to complain and

had had every reason to complain and

had had every reason to complain and give up and call it in and everybody

give up and call it in and everybody

give up and call it in and everybody would have understood and said well

would have understood and said well

would have understood and said well that’s totally understandable but they

that’s totally understandable but they

that’s totally understandable but they didn’t accept that they didn’t complain

didn’t accept that they didn’t complain

didn’t accept that they didn’t complain didn’t blame anybody they took

didn’t blame anybody they took

didn’t blame anybody they took responsibility for where they were in

responsibility for where they were in

responsibility for where they were in life and they changed it and so I think

life and they changed it and so I think

life and they changed it and so I think a good habit would be looking yourself

a good habit would be looking yourself

a good habit would be looking yourself in the mirror and ask yourself why am I

in the mirror and ask yourself why am I

in the mirror and ask yourself why am I not more successful than I that I you

not more successful than I that I you

not more successful than I that I you know then then I should be and see what

know then then I should be and see what

know then then I should be and see what comes back and if the answer isn’t

comes back and if the answer isn’t

comes back and if the answer isn’t something related to you the answer is

something related to you the answer is

something related to you the answer is your parents or something else then then

your parents or something else then then

your parents or something else then then you’re in the complaining mindset and

you’re in the complaining mindset and

you’re in the complaining mindset and you have to adjust it to take more

you have to adjust it to take more

you have to adjust it to take more responsibility for what you are

responsibility for what you are

responsibility for what you are yeah it’s a great point I love it we’re

yeah it’s a great point I love it we’re

yeah it’s a great point I love it we’re we’re getting tight on time I want to

we’re getting tight on time I want to

we’re getting tight on time I want to fit one more in let’s see yeah a Jing

fit one more in let’s see yeah a Jing

fit one more in let’s see yeah a Jing Kia is asking to follow a question

Kia is asking to follow a question

Kia is asking to follow a question around hiring people with passion so

around hiring people with passion so

around hiring people with passion so writing in to say how to find the people

writing in to say how to find the people

writing in to say how to find the people with passion when you’re starting up

with passion when you’re starting up

with passion when you’re starting up hey I drink tea I think what kind of

hey I drink tea I think what kind of

hey I drink tea I think what kind of look at your network your social media

look at your network your social media

look at your network your social media network and then there’s again things

network and then there’s again things

network and then there’s again things like linkedin there’s loads of tools out

like linkedin there’s loads of tools out

like linkedin there’s loads of tools out there to find who are people who express

there to find who are people who express

there to find who are people who express themselves with passion who are

themselves with passion who are

themselves with passion who are interested in your idea and her great

interested in your idea and her great

interested in your idea and her great great compliment for you and and again

great compliment for you and and again

great compliment for you and and again here be bold don’t give up have never

here be bold don’t give up have never

here be bold don’t give up have never give up this there’s so many people

give up this there’s so many people

give up this there’s so many people there just so I gave you the example of

there just so I gave you the example of

there just so I gave you the example of Kathleen she reached out to Evan she

Kathleen she reached out to Evan she

Kathleen she reached out to Evan she reached out to me I reach out to prove

reached out to me I reach out to prove

reached out to me I reach out to prove you cannot you cannot underestimate how

you cannot you cannot underestimate how

you cannot you cannot underestimate how generous people are with their time to

generous people are with their time to

generous people are with their time to help you be successful

help you be successful

help you be successful honestly all we want to see is a whole

honestly all we want to see is a whole

honestly all we want to see is a whole volunteer army of great entrepreneurs

volunteer army of great entrepreneurs

volunteer army of great entrepreneurs out there start their business live

out there start their business live

out there start their business live their dreams and there’s generally

their dreams and there’s generally

their dreams and there’s generally people who have made it serial

people who have made it serial

people who have made it serial entrepreneurs I’ve typically found them

entrepreneurs I’ve typically found them

entrepreneurs I’ve typically found them the most generous people in terms of

the most generous people in terms of

the most generous people in terms of giving their time and advice to the next

giving their time and advice to the next

giving their time and advice to the next generation so and and through their

generation so and and through their

generation so and and through their network you know every time you see some

network you know every time you see some

network you know every time you see some of the hustler

of the hustler

of the hustler honestly I even I do it now I say have

honestly I even I do it now I say have

honestly I even I do it now I say have you seen the amazing people any I’m

you seen the amazing people any I’m

you seen the amazing people any I’m looking I’m on a mission for rock stars

looking I’m on a mission for rock stars

looking I’m on a mission for rock stars so where are the rock stars you know I

so where are the rock stars you know I

so where are the rock stars you know I wanna harm rock stars you must have some

wanna harm rock stars you must have some

wanna harm rock stars you must have some names think about it think about it

names think about it think about it

names think about it think about it here’s my card

here’s my card

here’s my card think about rock stars this is what I’m

think about rock stars this is what I’m

think about rock stars this is what I’m looking for this is the sort of you know

looking for this is the sort of you know

looking for this is the sort of you know amazing social media or amazing

amazing social media or amazing

amazing social media or amazing marketing or whatever the role is and

marketing or whatever the role is and

marketing or whatever the role is and you just say we’ve gotta find rock stars

you just say we’ve gotta find rock stars

you just say we’ve gotta find rock stars and they do think about it and then you

and they do think about it and then you

and they do think about it and then you get the best way to hard people I’ve

get the best way to hard people I’ve

get the best way to hard people I’ve always found is probably through the

always found is probably through the

always found is probably through the extended network because people don’t

extended network because people don’t

extended network because people don’t like to recommend anybody that’s not a

like to recommend anybody that’s not a

like to recommend anybody that’s not a rock star and and you and I know Evan

rock star and and you and I know Evan

rock star and and you and I know Evan he’s a rock so people you meet in life

he’s a rock so people you meet in life

he’s a rock so people you meet in life there’s so many great people and if you

there’s so many great people and if you

there’s so many great people and if you can give them a leg up and give them an

can give them a leg up and give them an

can give them a leg up and give them an opportunity to the next role the next

opportunity to the next role the next

opportunity to the next role the next big idea then that’s something which

big idea then that’s something which

big idea then that’s something which would be very noble a hundred percent

would be very noble a hundred percent

would be very noble a hundred percent agree the only thing I would add is

agree the only thing I would add is

agree the only thing I would add is always lead with your your mission and

always lead with your your mission and

always lead with your your mission and your values so Steven loves customers

your values so Steven loves customers

your values so Steven loves customers then if I was hiring a programmer the

then if I was hiring a programmer the

then if I was hiring a programmer the the job title would be programmer who

the job title would be programmer who

the job title would be programmer who loves customers yeah and then lead with

loves customers yeah and then lead with

loves customers yeah and then lead with what we’re trying to do and then

what we’re trying to do and then

what we’re trying to do and then somebody would read that and say that’s

somebody would read that and say that’s

somebody would read that and say that’s the stupidest job I’ve ever seen I don’t

the stupidest job I’ve ever seen I don’t

the stupidest job I’ve ever seen I don’t care about customers I just care about

care about customers I just care about

care about customers I just care about code great don’t apply like you’re not

code great don’t apply like you’re not

code great don’t apply like you’re not gonna be a fit at this company and

gonna be a fit at this company and

gonna be a fit at this company and others are gonna say wow that’s really

others are gonna say wow that’s really

others are gonna say wow that’s really amazing finally a company that actually

amazing finally a company that actually

amazing finally a company that actually cares about customers I want to feel

cares about customers I want to feel

cares about customers I want to feel like the work I’m doing is meaningful

like the work I’m doing is meaningful

like the work I’m doing is meaningful and so people will self select in based

and so people will self select in based

and so people will self select in based on what you’re putting out and so that’s

on what you’re putting out and so that’s

on what you’re putting out and so that’s how you can attract people to you

how you can attract people to you

how you can attract people to you instead of if you just have a boring job

instead of if you just have a boring job

instead of if you just have a boring job ad or a boring website then you get a

ad or a boring website then you get a

ad or a boring website then you get a mix of everybody and nobody that truly

mix of everybody and nobody that truly

mix of everybody and nobody that truly cares about you so just really lead with

cares about you so just really lead with

cares about you so just really lead with your your mission and your values first

your your mission and your values first

your your mission and your values first Steven we’re we’re getting up at the end

Steven we’re we’re getting up at the end

Steven we’re we’re getting up at the end of the hour here I’d love to hear your

of the hour here I’d love to hear your

of the hour here I’d love to hear your your final thoughts for our final video

your final thoughts for our final video

your final thoughts for our final video in 2017 leave believe nation with some

in 2017 leave believe nation with some

in 2017 leave believe nation with some inspiration to head into the new year I

inspiration to head into the new year I

inspiration to head into the new year I love it so hey you

love it so hey you

love it so hey you first of all web and I just want a

first of all web and I just want a

first of all web and I just want a personal message to Nina to say I was

personal message to Nina to say I was

personal message to Nina to say I was lucky enough to me Evans partner in

lucky enough to me Evans partner in

lucky enough to me Evans partner in London and give a big hugs and you know

London and give a big hugs and you know

London and give a big hugs and you know for the holiday season you know have a

for the holiday season you know have a

for the holiday season you know have a restful and superb time and then also I

restful and superb time and then also I

restful and superb time and then also I think for everybody out there you know

think for everybody out there you know

think for everybody out there you know again though the words of a great leader

again though the words of a great leader

again though the words of a great leader Martin Luther King in terms of climbing

Martin Luther King in terms of climbing

Martin Luther King in terms of climbing that giant staircase just take the first

that giant staircase just take the first

that giant staircase just take the first step and there’s no better time than

step and there’s no better time than

step and there’s no better time than taking the first step then when you come

taking the first step then when you come

taking the first step then when you come back in January and you’ve had a great

back in January and you’ve had a great

back in January and you’ve had a great hopefully amazing kind of restful time

hopefully amazing kind of restful time

hopefully amazing kind of restful time over the holidays with your loved ones

over the holidays with your loved ones

over the holidays with your loved ones your family your friends to come back in

your family your friends to come back in

your family your friends to come back in and just say I’m gonna do this I’m gonna

and just say I’m gonna do this I’m gonna

and just say I’m gonna do this I’m gonna make it happen

make it happen

make it happen I’ll do it with no regrets because if

I’ll do it with no regrets because if

I’ll do it with no regrets because if you sat there in ten years time and said

you sat there in ten years time and said

you sat there in ten years time and said well I didn’t do it you’ll have regrets

well I didn’t do it you’ll have regrets

well I didn’t do it you’ll have regrets if you do it and take the risk and back

if you do it and take the risk and back

if you do it and take the risk and back yourself and believe honestly it will

yourself and believe honestly it will

yourself and believe honestly it will start the best adventure of your life so

start the best adventure of your life so

start the best adventure of your life so you know we’re back in you we’re all

you know we’re back in you we’re all

you know we’re back in you we’re all back in you and I would say actually

back in you and I would say actually

back in you and I would say actually Evan we we love doing these I’d be

Evan we we love doing these I’d be

Evan we we love doing these I’d be useful for everybody out there we I

useful for everybody out there we I

useful for everybody out there we I always enjoy and always look forward in

always enjoy and always look forward in

always enjoy and always look forward in my week to having a chat with Evan and

my week to having a chat with Evan and

my week to having a chat with Evan and in the hangouts and we hope they’re

in the hangouts and we hope they’re

in the hangouts and we hope they’re useful to you I love your questions Ben

useful to you I love your questions Ben

useful to you I love your questions Ben great questions again today so thank you

great questions again today so thank you

great questions again today so thank you very much and finally just to wish all a

very much and finally just to wish all a

very much and finally just to wish all a happy holiday coming up and in the year

happy holiday coming up and in the year

happy holiday coming up and in the year ahead 2018 hit the ground running and

ahead 2018 hit the ground running and

ahead 2018 hit the ground running and yeah this time believe man go make it

yeah this time believe man go make it

yeah this time believe man go make it happen make it happen I love it what are

happen make it happen I love it what are

happen make it happen I love it what are we going to end it well thank you Sivan

we going to end it well thank you Sivan

we going to end it well thank you Sivan so much your time your advice your

so much your time your advice your

so much your time your advice your wisdom your heart your care thank you

wisdom your heart your care thank you

wisdom your heart your care thank you guys so much for watching and all the

guys so much for watching and all the

guys so much for watching and all the fantastic questions we didn’t get all of

fantastic questions we didn’t get all of

fantastic questions we didn’t get all of them but we’re gonna keep it going into

them but we’re gonna keep it going into

them but we’re gonna keep it going into the new year and look forward to meeting

the new year and look forward to meeting

the new year and look forward to meeting you there thanks for thanks for

you there thanks for thanks for

you there thanks for thanks for everything have a fantastic close to

everything have a fantastic close to

everything have a fantastic close to your week continue to believe and we’ll

your week continue to believe and we’ll

your week continue to believe and we’ll see you soon

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