
I reckon we are live with another YouTube hang out strategy fantasy sesh
YouTube hang out strategy fantasy sesh
YouTube hang out strategy fantasy sesh number 14 with Jennifer price the
number 14 with Jennifer price the
number 14 with Jennifer price the fantasy copywriter Jen welcome back
fantasy copywriter Jen welcome back
fantasy copywriter Jen welcome back thank you it’s good to be here thanks
thank you it’s good to be here thanks
thank you it’s good to be here thanks for having me I like your new background
for having me I like your new background
for having me I like your new background it’s super cool yeah I guess since the
it’s super cool yeah I guess since the
it’s super cool yeah I guess since the last one we did that now there’s a new
last one we did that now there’s a new
last one we did that now there’s a new background have i told you the thing
background have i told you the thing
background have i told you the thing with the nenas story here you heard that
with the nenas story here you heard that
with the nenas story here you heard that one yet I don’t think I’ve heard that
one yet I don’t think I’ve heard that
one yet I don’t think I’ve heard that yet okey so this is my background the
yet okey so this is my background the
yet okey so this is my background the ideas when I walk in i’m inspired and
ideas when I walk in i’m inspired and
ideas when I walk in i’m inspired and they don’t know these people looking at
they don’t know these people looking at
they don’t know these people looking at me and everybody has their own kind of
me and everybody has their own kind of
me and everybody has their own kind of story as to why they’re up there right
story as to why they’re up there right
story as to why they’re up there right right this nina and hayden so my
right this nina and hayden so my
right this nina and hayden so my computer setup like this and then i have
computer setup like this and then i have
computer setup like this and then i have a spot right here where i usually keep
a spot right here where i usually keep
a spot right here where i usually keep their picture okay so that while I’m
their picture okay so that while I’m
their picture okay so that while I’m working like I don’t see these guys
working like I don’t see these guys
working like I don’t see these guys while I’m working right yeah it’s you
while I’m working right yeah it’s you
while I’m working right yeah it’s you know I’m Hayden while I’m working us
know I’m Hayden while I’m working us
know I’m Hayden while I’m working us it’s worth usual spot is but Nina gets
it’s worth usual spot is but Nina gets
it’s worth usual spot is but Nina gets upset that her picture is not in the
upset that her picture is not in the
upset that her picture is not in the shot when I doing hangouts so I have to
shot when I doing hangouts so I have to
shot when I doing hangouts so I have to adjust so that your hangouts it goes
adjust so that your hangouts it goes
adjust so that your hangouts it goes here and then I love it there so that’s
here and then I love it there so that’s
here and then I love it there so that’s awesome so do you move it back so that
awesome so do you move it back so that
awesome so do you move it back so that when you because when you’re working you
when you because when you’re working you
when you because when you’re working you want to be able to see them right Zach
want to be able to see them right Zach
want to be able to see them right Zach no I’m on the back but then like 30
no I’m on the back but then like 30
no I’m on the back but then like 30 things not to move it here just so that
things not to move it here just so that
things not to move it here just so that we do the hay and also when I do the do
we do the hay and also when I do the do
we do the hay and also when I do the do a morning a YouTube thing with with
a morning a YouTube thing with with
a morning a YouTube thing with with marisha with Russia kept TV playing
marisha with Russia kept TV playing
marisha with Russia kept TV playing league of legends and so I have to move
league of legends and so I have to move
league of legends and so I have to move it back in for that so constantly on the
it back in for that so constantly on the
it back in for that so constantly on the move between the two spots that’s
move between the two spots that’s
move between the two spots that’s awesome I did not know you did that with
awesome I did not know you did that with
awesome I did not know you did that with reishi I did not know you did league of
reishi I did not know you did league of
reishi I did not know you did league of legends with her are you kidding me yeah
legends with her are you kidding me yeah
legends with her are you kidding me yeah one wednesday and friday morning we do a
one wednesday and friday morning we do a
one wednesday and friday morning we do a stream and we answer questions while I
stream and we answer questions while I
stream and we answer questions while I play league of legends oh my god that’s
play league of legends oh my god that’s
play league of legends oh my god that’s awesome does she play too or initiate
awesome does she play too or initiate
awesome does she play too or initiate she just on the call with you oh yeah
she just on the call with you oh yeah
she just on the call with you oh yeah she doesn’t play she he moderates the
she doesn’t play she he moderates the
she doesn’t play she he moderates the stream and then she asks the questions
stream and then she asks the questions
stream and then she asks the questions and it also answers some of the
and it also answers some of the
and it also answers some of the questions so okay yeah that’s fun it’s
questions so okay yeah that’s fun it’s
questions so okay yeah that’s fun it’s good there’s a test it’s a new test I
good there’s a test it’s a new test I
good there’s a test it’s a new test I like experimenting yeah he had me to uh
like experimenting yeah he had me to uh
like experimenting yeah he had me to uh so it’s been a while may was our last
so it’s been a while may was our last
so it’s been a while may was our last our last call number 13 yeah what’s that
our last call number 13 yeah what’s that
our last call number 13 yeah what’s that what’s the quick update what’s been
what’s the quick update what’s been
what’s the quick update what’s been um let’s see well since may I have
um let’s see well since may I have
um let’s see well since may I have continued doing some workshops i think i
continued doing some workshops i think i
continued doing some workshops i think i did my first workshop last time we
did my first workshop last time we
did my first workshop last time we talked so i’ve done two more since then
talked so i’ve done two more since then
talked so i’ve done two more since then and i’ve had like a four hundred percent
and i’ve had like a four hundred percent
and i’ve had like a four hundred percent increase in my tenants because i think
increase in my tenants because i think
increase in my tenants because i think the first one i only had one person calm
the first one i only had one person calm
the first one i only had one person calm which was which was totally great right
which was which was totally great right
which was which was totally great right that’s we gotta start somewhere and she
that’s we gotta start somewhere and she
that’s we gotta start somewhere and she hired me so that was great and then I
hired me so that was great and then I
hired me so that was great and then I had two more and they’ve had four people
had two more and they’ve had four people
had two more and they’ve had four people at each of those and so that’s been
at each of those and so that’s been
at each of those and so that’s been great and I know one of the suggestions
great and I know one of the suggestions
great and I know one of the suggestions you made was to introduce at those
you made was to introduce at those
you made was to introduce at those workshops how people could continue to
workshops how people could continue to
workshops how people could continue to work with me and so I have done that and
work with me and so I have done that and
work with me and so I have done that and that’s been really great too and I’ve
that’s been really great too and I’ve
that’s been really great too and I’ve also offered to help them continue
also offered to help them continue
also offered to help them continue writing their pages because what I’m
writing their pages because what I’m
writing their pages because what I’m doing is I’m helping them are either
doing is I’m helping them are either
doing is I’m helping them are either write in about page or sales page and so
write in about page or sales page and so
write in about page or sales page and so that’s been working out great too it’s
that’s been working out great too it’s
that’s been working out great too it’s been a great reason to follow up with
been a great reason to follow up with
been a great reason to follow up with them and then help them out and show
them and then help them out and show
them and then help them out and show them what I do in my skills and that
them what I do in my skills and that
them what I do in my skills and that kind of thing cool any of the other ones
kind of thing cool any of the other ones
kind of thing cool any of the other ones led to sales they haven’t led the sales
led to sales they haven’t led the sales
led to sales they haven’t led the sales yet but they but the other thing i’ve
yet but they but the other thing i’ve
yet but they but the other thing i’ve done is i’ve sent feedback to them I you
done is i’ve sent feedback to them I you
done is i’ve sent feedback to them I you know be a survey to get feedback from
know be a survey to get feedback from
know be a survey to get feedback from them and and at both of the most recent
them and and at both of the most recent
them and and at both of the most recent ones they suggested that they really
ones they suggested that they really
ones they suggested that they really felt like when one workshop wasn’t
felt like when one workshop wasn’t
felt like when one workshop wasn’t enough that they you know they got late
enough that they you know they got late
enough that they you know they got late later realize how intense it was right
later realize how intense it was right
later realize how intense it was right and that they would love to be able to
and that they would love to be able to
and that they would love to be able to do more so I am I so I’m and that’s the
do more so I am I so I’m and that’s the
do more so I am I so I’m and that’s the whole goal right to show them how much
whole goal right to show them how much
whole goal right to show them how much work that goes into writing it but I
work that goes into writing it but I
work that goes into writing it but I think a lot of do you want to write on
think a lot of do you want to write on
think a lot of do you want to write on their own so i think i may consider
their own so i think i may consider
their own so i think i may consider doing some kind of a series or a
doing some kind of a series or a
doing some kind of a series or a two-part thing um you know I’m thinking
two-part thing um you know I’m thinking
two-part thing um you know I’m thinking about that because that is definitely a
about that because that is definitely a
about that because that is definitely a feedback that I got this is a free
feedback that I got this is a free
feedback that I got this is a free workshop right you’re putting on it’s
workshop right you’re putting on it’s
workshop right you’re putting on it’s not free um I offer it it’s super cheap
not free um I offer it it’s super cheap
not free um I offer it it’s super cheap I offer it for 40 bucks per person and
I offer it for 40 bucks per person and
I offer it for 40 bucks per person and then after a discount to people who are
then after a discount to people who are
then after a discount to people who are in my networking groups so what he bucks
in my networking groups so what he bucks
in my networking groups so what he bucks for how long an hour or two hours Wow is
for how long an hour or two hours Wow is
for how long an hour or two hours Wow is 40 books to two hours okay what about um
40 books to two hours okay what about um
40 books to two hours okay what about um and then the in May you were talking
and then the in May you were talking
and then the in May you were talking about work chest with connectors are you
about work chest with connectors are you
about work chest with connectors are you how are you promoting these workshops
how are you promoting these workshops
how are you promoting these workshops well right now I’m promoting them
well right now I’m promoting them
well right now I’m promoting them primarily through I have three different
primarily through I have three different
primarily through I have three different networking groups that I belong to and
networking groups that I belong to and
networking groups that I belong to and so I’m putting that i created a little
so I’m putting that i created a little
so I’m putting that i created a little mini sales page for them and i put it up
mini sales page for them and i put it up
mini sales page for them and i put it up on there
on there
on there our Facebook pages and then I’ve also
our Facebook pages and then I’ve also
our Facebook pages and then I’ve also been just putting it out on people that
been just putting it out on people that
been just putting it out on people that I know who I think might be might want
I know who I think might be might want
I know who I think might be might want to come I’ve considered like putting it
to come I’ve considered like putting it
to come I’ve considered like putting it into into my mailing list or maybe on my
into into my mailing list or maybe on my
into into my mailing list or maybe on my you know much Facebook page the problem
you know much Facebook page the problem
you know much Facebook page the problem is is my you know their local workshops
is is my you know their local workshops
is is my you know their local workshops and some I much facebook page actually
and some I much facebook page actually
and some I much facebook page actually is primarily most people on that are
is primarily most people on that are
is primarily most people on that are actually outside of the Portland area so
actually outside of the Portland area so
actually outside of the Portland area so yeah yeah so I’m actually considered
yeah yeah so I’m actually considered
yeah yeah so I’m actually considered that’s one of things I was thinking
that’s one of things I was thinking
that’s one of things I was thinking about doing actually I was so I think
about doing actually I was so I think
about doing actually I was so I think you saw my mouth my group how bummed i
you saw my mouth my group how bummed i
you saw my mouth my group how bummed i was about blab going away what if one of
was about blab going away what if one of
was about blab going away what if one of the things I was thinking about doing
the things I was thinking about doing
the things I was thinking about doing was doing a little mini workshops once a
was doing a little mini workshops once a
was doing a little mini workshops once a week on blab just so anyone and everyone
week on blab just so anyone and everyone
week on blab just so anyone and everyone could kind of get benefit from that and
could kind of get benefit from that and
could kind of get benefit from that and kind of for free maybe not quite as
kind of for free maybe not quite as
kind of for free maybe not quite as intense as I do in these to our
intense as I do in these to our
intense as I do in these to our workshops because there wouldn’t be
workshops because there wouldn’t be
workshops because there wouldn’t be enough time to really get into it but
enough time to really get into it but
enough time to really get into it but you know a good way to kind of introduce
you know a good way to kind of introduce
you know a good way to kind of introduce the subject and let them know what I do
the subject and let them know what I do
the subject and let them know what I do um but unfortunately Bob’s going away so
um but unfortunately Bob’s going away so
um but unfortunately Bob’s going away so I’m considering what might be to replace
I’m considering what might be to replace
I’m considering what might be to replace that I might do it on youtube live or I
that I might do it on youtube live or I
that I might do it on youtube live or I don’t know i’m not i might see what blog
don’t know i’m not i might see what blog
don’t know i’m not i might see what blog can i do to you will see how the whole
can i do to you will see how the whole
can i do to you will see how the whole YouTube thing shakes out too because
YouTube thing shakes out too because
YouTube thing shakes out too because they’re getting rid of that and so we’ll
they’re getting rid of that and so we’ll
they’re getting rid of that and so we’ll see because i use hang us all the time
see because i use hang us all the time
see because i use hang us all the time so we’ll see what that ends up becoming
so we’ll see what that ends up becoming
so we’ll see what that ends up becoming how to bring people in yeah i’m i think
how to bring people in yeah i’m i think
how to bring people in yeah i’m i think your best bet I mean what you’re looking
your best bet I mean what you’re looking
your best bet I mean what you’re looking at it mean it’s great that you’re making
at it mean it’s great that you’re making
at it mean it’s great that you’re making some a little bit of money at least now
some a little bit of money at least now
some a little bit of money at least now so you got like you know 40 bucks times
so you got like you know 40 bucks times
so you got like you know 40 bucks times for people you know make your time there
for people you know make your time there
for people you know make your time there for the night um just covers my cost
for the night um just covers my cost
for the night um just covers my cost because I have to pay for a room and now
because I have to pay for a room and now
because I have to pay for a room and now snacks I mean it’s basically for free
snacks I mean it’s basically for free
snacks I mean it’s basically for free you know but right yeah I like playing
you know but right yeah I like playing
you know but right yeah I like playing in either the free or the high value
in either the free or the high value
in either the free or the high value right now we’re like I getting paid a
right now we’re like I getting paid a
right now we’re like I getting paid a lot and you use the free to filter out
lot and you use the free to filter out
lot and you use the free to filter out the people who want to go to the next
the people who want to go to the next
the people who want to go to the next step yeah so you is basically free right
step yeah so you is basically free right
step yeah so you is basically free right because you’re not making money um I
because you’re not making money um I
because you’re not making money um I think it’s much point about trying to
think it’s much point about trying to
think it’s much point about trying to get the right target audience to come in
get the right target audience to come in
get the right target audience to come in all right so I don’t want people who
all right so I don’t want people who
all right so I don’t want people who want to become copywriters yes you have
want to become copywriters yes you have
want to become copywriters yes you have some kind of coaching program or
some kind of coaching program or
some kind of coaching program or training program where you can teach
training program where you can teach
training program where you can teach them and earn more money doing that as
them and earn more money doing that as
them and earn more money doing that as well so understanding the point of the
well so understanding the point of the
well so understanding the point of the series because if you’re getting
series because if you’re getting
series because if you’re getting feedbacks and hey we want more like that
feedbacks and hey we want more like that
feedbacks and hey we want more like that was really intense we want more uh like
was really intense we want more uh like
was really intense we want more uh like you may not want to do more if that’s
you may not want to do more if that’s
you may not want to do more if that’s not your business model right I’m not
not your business model right I’m not
not your business model right I’m not trying to attract writers you’re trying
trying to attract writers you’re trying
trying to attract writers you’re trying to talk business people who don’t want
to talk business people who don’t want
to talk business people who don’t want to write yep and maybe focus shouldn’t
to write yep and maybe focus shouldn’t
to write yep and maybe focus shouldn’t be explaining the course to do a part 2
be explaining the course to do a part 2
be explaining the course to do a part 2 or part 3 yes I totally great that’s
or part 3 yes I totally great that’s
or part 3 yes I totally great that’s exactly what my thought was to it was
exactly what my thought was to it was
exactly what my thought was to it was like really it’s really meant to show
like really it’s really meant to show
like really it’s really meant to show them that it’s intense so if they want
them that it’s intense so if they want
them that it’s intense so if they want to continue not doing it on their own
to continue not doing it on their own
to continue not doing it on their own they have I give them a lot of intense
they have I give them a lot of intense
they have I give them a lot of intense materials so they can do it on their own
materials so they can do it on their own
materials so they can do it on their own you’re right like that’s not probably
you’re right like that’s not probably
you’re right like that’s not probably the private person I want to attract
the private person I want to attract
the private person I want to attract most these people aren’t necessarily
most these people aren’t necessarily
most these people aren’t necessarily writers but they’re just new or business
writers but they’re just new or business
writers but they’re just new or business owners that might just want to pay for
owners that might just want to pay for
owners that might just want to pay for you don’t want to pay for a writer right
you don’t want to pay for a writer right
you don’t want to pay for a writer right now because they can afford it or
now because they can afford it or
now because they can afford it or whatever and so they’re wanting to write
whatever and so they’re wanting to write
whatever and so they’re wanting to write their own page one of the things I’ve
their own page one of the things I’ve
their own page one of the things I’ve sort of you know encourage them to do is
sort of you know encourage them to do is
sort of you know encourage them to do is to hire me as a consultant so that they
to hire me as a consultant so that they
to hire me as a consultant so that they can still do the writing and make I
can still do the writing and make I
can still do the writing and make I could give them feedback on their
could give them feedback on their
could give them feedback on their writing and that way doesn’t take as
writing and that way doesn’t take as
writing and that way doesn’t take as much time for me to do the writing
much time for me to do the writing
much time for me to do the writing itself but to consult with them on an
itself but to consult with them on an
itself but to consult with them on an ongoing basis I think that might make
ongoing basis I think that might make
ongoing basis I think that might make more sense because then they can afford
more sense because then they can afford
more sense because then they can afford it and it also helps helps them
it and it also helps helps them
it and it also helps helps them establish a brand a little better and
establish a brand a little better and
establish a brand a little better and the messaging behind their brand over a
the messaging behind their brand over a
the messaging behind their brand over a longer term and then it’s worth it for
longer term and then it’s worth it for
longer term and then it’s worth it for me if you know if someone was willing to
me if you know if someone was willing to
me if you know if someone was willing to pay me it cooks consulting fee for a
pay me it cooks consulting fee for a
pay me it cooks consulting fee for a couple hours a month you know for six
couple hours a month you know for six
couple hours a month you know for six months that it’s totally worth of me so
months that it’s totally worth of me so
months that it’s totally worth of me so I think that’s a better route than than
I think that’s a better route than than
I think that’s a better route than than having it longer workshop series i
having it longer workshop series i
having it longer workshop series i totally agree I would also see if
totally agree I would also see if
totally agree I would also see if they’re open to doing it as a live
they’re open to doing it as a live
they’re open to doing it as a live coaching session like this public where
coaching session like this public where
coaching session like this public where it’s going to go to youtube because that
it’s going to go to youtube because that
it’s going to go to youtube because that also benefits it benefits them and they
also benefits it benefits them and they
also benefits it benefits them and they get some exposure if they’re willing to
get some exposure if they’re willing to
get some exposure if they’re willing to share you know what’s going on but it
share you know what’s going on but it
share you know what’s going on but it also helps you build content to try to
also helps you build content to try to
also helps you build content to try to attract other people who want to get
attract other people who want to get
attract other people who want to get advice on how to like it’s it’s still a
advice on how to like it’s it’s still a
advice on how to like it’s it’s still a lot of free stuff that a lot of people
lot of free stuff that a lot of people
lot of free stuff that a lot of people will come and we’ll just consume and
will come and we’ll just consume and
will come and we’ll just consume and hopefully help them with their business
hopefully help them with their business
hopefully help them with their business and if you’re in a little bit ad dollars
and if you’re in a little bit ad dollars
and if you’re in a little bit ad dollars off of it but helps become a funnel for
off of it but helps become a funnel for
off of it but helps become a funnel for people again who look at that and say
people again who look at that and say
people again who look at that and say wow that’s a ton of work I don’t want to
wow that’s a ton of work I don’t want to
wow that’s a ton of work I don’t want to do that can I just hire Jen to help me
do that can I just hire Jen to help me
do that can I just hire Jen to help me yeah I love that idea that’s actually
yeah I love that idea that’s actually
yeah I love that idea that’s actually kind of what I was thinking about with
kind of what I was thinking about with
kind of what I was thinking about with the blob thing so maybe yeah maybe it’s
the blob thing so maybe yeah maybe it’s
the blob thing so maybe yeah maybe it’s just some one on one thing and
just some one on one thing and
just some one on one thing and said yeah I’ll think about that that’s
said yeah I’ll think about that that’s
said yeah I’ll think about that that’s that’s a great idea and then I wouldn’t
that’s a great idea and then I wouldn’t
that’s a great idea and then I wouldn’t have to pay for the room fee either so I
have to pay for the room fee either so I
have to pay for the room fee either so I could actually even offshore lot less
could actually even offshore lot less
could actually even offshore lot less money right so yeah if you’re getting if
money right so yeah if you’re getting if
money right so yeah if you’re getting if you’re getting paid for two you’re gonna
you’re getting paid for two you’re gonna
you’re getting paid for two you’re gonna pay for your time how a position is is
pay for your time how a position is is
pay for your time how a position is is good for them it’s good for their
good for them it’s good for their
good for them it’s good for their business you can also start getting some
business you can also start getting some
business you can also start getting some feedback from people watching and
feedback from people watching and
feedback from people watching and getting their opinions and their advice
getting their opinions and their advice
getting their opinions and their advice interviews and you can you can rally
interviews and you can you can rally
interviews and you can you can rally your community around saying hey you
your community around saying hey you
your community around saying hey you know this thursday i’m doing a session
know this thursday i’m doing a session
know this thursday i’m doing a session with jill and we’re going to talk about
with jill and we’re going to talk about
with jill and we’re going to talk about her business come and give feedback and
her business come and give feedback and
her business come and give feedback and so the way i always approach it as I
so the way i always approach it as I
so the way i always approach it as I don’t I don’t ask for permission on it
don’t I don’t ask for permission on it
don’t I don’t ask for permission on it like hey would you mind if I did this
like hey would you mind if I did this
like hey would you mind if I did this thing because then it makes it look like
thing because then it makes it look like
thing because then it makes it look like it’s a favor to you right our position
it’s a favor to you right our position
it’s a favor to you right our position is as where it still is it is good for
is as where it still is it is good for
is as where it still is it is good for you but imagine as it’s been good for
you but imagine as it’s been good for
you but imagine as it’s been good for them and that I like to do it this way I
them and that I like to do it this way I
them and that I like to do it this way I want to give you more exposure I want to
want to give you more exposure I want to
want to give you more exposure I want to give you some live real-time feedback
give you some live real-time feedback
give you some live real-time feedback and what you’re doing both for myself
and what you’re doing both for myself
and what you’re doing both for myself and from the live audience that will
and from the live audience that will
and from the live audience that will bring even if like two people show up
bring even if like two people show up
bring even if like two people show up it’s still something back and it helps
it’s still something back and it helps
it’s still something back and it helps them uh it helps them grow to as a as an
them uh it helps them grow to as a as an
them uh it helps them grow to as a as an entrepreneur to be able to you know be
entrepreneur to be able to you know be
entrepreneur to be able to you know be on camera in practice being vulnerable
on camera in practice being vulnerable
on camera in practice being vulnerable and some people absolutely hate it and
and some people absolutely hate it and
and some people absolutely hate it and won’t want to do it but I’ll surprise
won’t want to do it but I’ll surprise
won’t want to do it but I’ll surprise you how many people who would we got
you how many people who would we got
you how many people who would we got ache like I’ve never had anybody turn it
ache like I’ve never had anybody turn it
ache like I’ve never had anybody turn it down anytime somebody wants to interview
down anytime somebody wants to interview
down anytime somebody wants to interview me or for their podcast or for their if
me or for their podcast or for their if
me or for their podcast or for their if it’s a youtuber it’s easy because you’re
it’s a youtuber it’s easy because you’re
it’s a youtuber it’s easy because you’re used to YouTube podcasters or people
used to YouTube podcasters or people
used to YouTube podcasters or people read an article or somebody wants
read an article or somebody wants
read an article or somebody wants mentorship I’ve always said let’s just
mentorship I’ve always said let’s just
mentorship I’ve always said let’s just do it as a google hangout and I’m gonna
do it as a google hangout and I’m gonna
do it as a google hangout and I’m gonna happy I’m happy to promote you to my
happy I’m happy to promote you to my
happy I’m happy to promote you to my audience and we’ll get some live
audience and we’ll get some live
audience and we’ll get some live feedback and they’ve always some of them
feedback and they’ve always some of them
feedback and they’ve always some of them been really scared isn’t my first time
been really scared isn’t my first time
been really scared isn’t my first time going on camera oh my god I live yeah I
going on camera oh my god I live yeah I
going on camera oh my god I live yeah I totally but you know they mean a little
totally but you know they mean a little
totally but you know they mean a little bit of hand-holding through that process
bit of hand-holding through that process
bit of hand-holding through that process like don’t worry you’ll be fine you know
like don’t worry you’ll be fine you know
like don’t worry you’ll be fine you know we’ll just walk through it you’ll be
we’ll just walk through it you’ll be
we’ll just walk through it you’ll be you’ll be great so I’ve never had
you’ll be great so I’ve never had
you’ll be great so I’ve never had anybody seen oh and that helps me build
anybody seen oh and that helps me build
anybody seen oh and that helps me build up you know content for my channel too
up you know content for my channel too
up you know content for my channel too but also helps give them exposure to to
but also helps give them exposure to to
but also helps give them exposure to to the audience so yeah I whether it’s free
the audience so yeah I whether it’s free
the audience so yeah I whether it’s free or ideally it’s a paid session I would
or ideally it’s a paid session I would
or ideally it’s a paid session I would trying to make that into a live event so
trying to make that into a live event so
trying to make that into a live event so you have content per channel 2 and even
you have content per channel 2 and even
you have content per channel 2 and even if you’re doing your workshops I’d love
if you’re doing your workshops I’d love
if you’re doing your workshops I’d love it to be filmed right you have content
it to be filmed right you have content
it to be filmed right you have content on channel um taking back to to the
on channel um taking back to to the
on channel um taking back to to the strategies of workshops you know the
strategies of workshops you know the
strategies of workshops you know the idea is we want to get ideal clients
idea is we want to get ideal clients
idea is we want to get ideal clients coming in there and your ideal client is
coming in there and your ideal client is
coming in there and your ideal client is it is a business owner as an
it is a business owner as an
it is a business owner as an entrepreneur yeah it’s an entrepreneur
entrepreneur yeah it’s an entrepreneur
entrepreneur yeah it’s an entrepreneur who I mean probably the most ideal
who I mean probably the most ideal
who I mean probably the most ideal client is somebody who’s got you know a
client is somebody who’s got you know a
client is somebody who’s got you know a couple of of employees and they’re doing
couple of of employees and they’re doing
couple of of employees and they’re doing and they need help because they’re doing
and they need help because they’re doing
and they need help because they’re doing some kind of a launch of some kind
some kind of a launch of some kind
some kind of a launch of some kind whether it’s like an online you know
whether it’s like an online you know
whether it’s like an online you know course or they’re doing something where
course or they’re doing something where
course or they’re doing something where they need you know help write in a page
they need you know help write in a page
they need you know help write in a page on their website about it to get sales
on their website about it to get sales
on their website about it to get sales right so i would i would start looking
right so i would i would start looking
right so i would i would start looking at who was already dealing with these
at who was already dealing with these
at who was already dealing with these people like maybe it’s not your
people like maybe it’s not your
people like maybe it’s not your networking groups maybe maybe those
networking groups maybe maybe those
networking groups maybe maybe those people are just solo entrepreneurs and
people are just solo entrepreneurs and
people are just solo entrepreneurs and they love the idea but they can’t afford
they love the idea but they can’t afford
they love the idea but they can’t afford your services which is very real right
your services which is very real right
your services which is very real right so lame go Phil pay 40 bucks for a
so lame go Phil pay 40 bucks for a
so lame go Phil pay 40 bucks for a couple hours I mean be consulting gig
couple hours I mean be consulting gig
couple hours I mean be consulting gig here there but it’s not really the kind
here there but it’s not really the kind
here there but it’s not really the kind of kind that you want to bring on build
of kind that you want to bring on build
of kind that you want to bring on build your business around right well looking
your business around right well looking
your business around right well looking at who is dealing with these kinds of
at who is dealing with these kinds of
at who is dealing with these kinds of ideal clients and how can this be
ideal clients and how can this be
ideal clients and how can this be something that they can do for their
something that they can do for their
something that they can do for their clients um so as an example there is a
clients um so as an example there is a
clients um so as an example there is a local SEO company here who built his
local SEO company here who built his
local SEO company here who built his business by partnering up with business
business by partnering up with business
business by partnering up with business coaches okay business coaches in the
coaches okay business coaches in the
coaches okay business coaches in the area and they have enough budget to hire
area and they have enough budget to hire
area and they have enough budget to hire business coach so it’s not right now
business coach so it’s not right now
business coach so it’s not right now like it might be a pure started but
like it might be a pure started but
like it might be a pure started but stills pure start that has enough money
stills pure start that has enough money
stills pure start that has enough money to hire business coach and they would do
to hire business coach and they would do
to hire business coach and they would do a free workshop for all of the clients
a free workshop for all of the clients
a free workshop for all of the clients of the business coach so the business
of the business coach so the business
of the business coach so the business culture then go out and say hey you know
culture then go out and say hey you know
culture then go out and say hey you know I’ve got this SEO expert come in and
I’ve got this SEO expert come in and
I’ve got this SEO expert come in and talk about SEO for your company it’s a
talk about SEO for your company it’s a
talk about SEO for your company it’s a free event on me is my you know
free event on me is my you know
free event on me is my you know appreciation for you guys as little
appreciation for you guys as little
appreciation for you guys as little clients let’s meet up at you know
clients let’s meet up at you know
clients let’s meet up at you know whatever their office or some some
whatever their office or some some
whatever their office or some some location and so he used that to hop
location and so he used that to hop
location and so he used that to hop around to different business coaches and
around to different business coaches and
around to different business coaches and it was value add for the business coach
it was value add for the business coach
it was value add for the business coach to really provide that to their
to really provide that to their
to really provide that to their clients as a free service so you know if
clients as a free service so you know if
clients as a free service so you know if you can get into a room of 20 ideal
you can get into a room of 20 ideal
you can get into a room of 20 ideal clients right who have the budget people
clients right who have the budget people
clients right who have the budget people have a need is a good chance you’re
have a need is a good chance you’re
have a need is a good chance you’re going to land you know at least one sale
going to land you know at least one sale
going to land you know at least one sale coming out of there so it’s more about
coming out of there so it’s more about
coming out of there so it’s more about finding those people who can be good
finding those people who can be good
finding those people who can be good connectors for you yeah whether it’s
connectors for you yeah whether it’s
connectors for you yeah whether it’s business coaches or accountants or
business coaches or accountants or
business coaches or accountants or lawyers or website design companies if
lawyers or website design companies if
lawyers or website design companies if they’re talk about landing pages and
they’re talk about landing pages and
they’re talk about landing pages and need some coffee from SEO companies
need some coffee from SEO companies
need some coffee from SEO companies anybody who’s working with these
anybody who’s working with these
anybody who’s working with these entrepreneurs I mean there’s really some
entrepreneurs I mean there’s really some
entrepreneurs I mean there’s really some within your networking group that you
within your networking group that you
within your networking group that you can yeah um instead of just trying to
can yeah um instead of just trying to
can yeah um instead of just trying to target the people in the group may be
target the people in the group may be
target the people in the group may be targeting their the people that they
targeting their the people that they
targeting their the people that they work with right Florian’s for people
work with right Florian’s for people
work with right Florian’s for people that they work with exactly and so if
that they work with exactly and so if
that they work with exactly and so if you could do some of those if you can do
you could do some of those if you can do
you could do some of those if you can do a couple those workshops a month you’ll
a couple those workshops a month you’ll
a couple those workshops a month you’ll quickly end up having a pretty full
quickly end up having a pretty full
quickly end up having a pretty full stable of that’s cool I like that idea
stable of that’s cool I like that idea
stable of that’s cool I like that idea especially website developers are a
especially website developers are a
especially website developers are a great target because they obviously work
great target because they obviously work
great target because they obviously work with balloon you know they’re working
with balloon you know they’re working
with balloon you know they’re working doing website work for people so um even
doing website work for people so um even
doing website work for people so um even people cuz a lot of times do they do all
people cuz a lot of times do they do all
people cuz a lot of times do they do all our kind of project by project basis but
our kind of project by project basis but
our kind of project by project basis but maybe I offer them some kind of
maybe I offer them some kind of
maybe I offer them some kind of incentive for referring me to look for a
incentive for referring me to look for a
incentive for referring me to look for a workshop yeah you you you could some
workshop yeah you you you could some
workshop yeah you you you could some some people uh I think you want to
some people uh I think you want to
some people uh I think you want to approach you to make sure that they know
approach you to make sure that they know
approach you to make sure that they know it’s not just gonna be a hard sales
it’s not just gonna be a hard sales
it’s not just gonna be a hard sales pitch right you’re not just going to go
pitch right you’re not just going to go
pitch right you’re not just going to go in and try to sell their clients because
in and try to sell their clients because
in and try to sell their clients because they’re putting it as hey here’s some
they’re putting it as hey here’s some
they’re putting it as hey here’s some value add thank you for being my client
value add thank you for being my client
value add thank you for being my client I’m bringing in gen to talk to us about
I’m bringing in gen to talk to us about
I’m bringing in gen to talk to us about how to write better coffee for your
how to write better coffee for your
how to write better coffee for your website and business yeah so I think if
website and business yeah so I think if
website and business yeah so I think if people have the need don’t actually want
people have the need don’t actually want
people have the need don’t actually want to talk to you about it you can explain
to talk to you about it you can explain
to talk to you about it you can explain the next steps some people are very
the next steps some people are very
the next steps some people are very money oriented and then we’ll want to
money oriented and then we’ll want to
money oriented and then we’ll want to see some kind of thing back Commission
see some kind of thing back Commission
see some kind of thing back Commission others honor term doing it because they
others honor term doing it because they
others honor term doing it because they want to provide the value and that could
want to provide the value and that could
want to provide the value and that could be off-putting like not i’m bringing you
be off-putting like not i’m bringing you
be off-putting like not i’m bringing you in to provide value not to sell my
in to provide value not to sell my
in to provide value not to sell my client right so you just want to you
client right so you just want to you
client right so you just want to you know play that by ear um what’s it
know play that by ear um what’s it
know play that by ear um what’s it develops will be an interesting choice
develops will be an interesting choice
develops will be an interesting choice yes there’s a strategic fit ah you could
yes there’s a strategic fit ah you could
yes there’s a strategic fit ah you could also be their competitor
also be their competitor
also be their competitor pending on right the company mhm part of
pending on right the company mhm part of
pending on right the company mhm part of their business they use copywriters
their business they use copywriters
their business they use copywriters sometimes you do it in-house sometimes a
sometimes you do it in-house sometimes a
sometimes you do it in-house sometimes a outsource um yeah I’ve found a lot of
outsource um yeah I’ve found a lot of
outsource um yeah I’ve found a lot of them do outsourced but they do have
them do outsourced but they do have
them do outsourced but they do have their prefer people but one of the
their prefer people but one of the
their prefer people but one of the things i have noticed is a lot of them
things i have noticed is a lot of them
things i have noticed is a lot of them like to not have the cooperator work
like to not have the cooperator work
like to not have the cooperator work directly with a client almost like an
directly with a client almost like an
directly with a client almost like an agency um which I don’t really prefer I
agency um which I don’t really prefer I
agency um which I don’t really prefer I don’t really necessarily want to work
don’t really necessarily want to work
don’t really necessarily want to work with those web developers because I
with those web developers because I
with those web developers because I think it’s so important that I work
think it’s so important that I work
think it’s so important that I work directly with the client so I know
directly with the client so I know
directly with the client so I know exactly you mean yeah they do kind of
exactly you mean yeah they do kind of
exactly you mean yeah they do kind of they might consider me what a competitor
they might consider me what a competitor
they might consider me what a competitor I wouldn’t because I don’t want to
I wouldn’t because I don’t want to
I wouldn’t because I don’t want to design websites and I’ll have you know I
design websites and I’ll have you know I
design websites and I’ll have you know I would but form a threat to them of any
would but form a threat to them of any
would but form a threat to them of any kind but I get sometimes they just for
kind but I get sometimes they just for
kind but I get sometimes they just for control reasons they want to control the
control reasons they want to control the
control reasons they want to control the situation so yeah it’s it’s more that
situation so yeah it’s it’s more that
situation so yeah it’s it’s more that they you know you don’t do all of their
they you know you don’t do all of their
they you know you don’t do all of their services what you do one of theirs right
services what you do one of theirs right
services what you do one of theirs right okay right they sell copy and you sell
okay right they sell copy and you sell
okay right they sell copy and you sell copy that’s a competitive situation you
copy that’s a competitive situation you
copy that’s a competitive situation you may feel the work out a deal where you
may feel the work out a deal where you
may feel the work out a deal where you like if talk to the client is important
like if talk to the client is important
like if talk to the client is important obviously for you to get to know them
obviously for you to get to know them
obviously for you to get to know them and create the best experience and best
and create the best experience and best
and create the best experience and best result yeah you could also sign a like a
result yeah you could also sign a like a
result yeah you could also sign a like a one-year yeah it’s some sort of like
one-year yeah it’s some sort of like
one-year yeah it’s some sort of like agreement that i won’t contact them for
agreement that i won’t contact them for
agreement that i won’t contact them for other projects yeah right and and or if
other projects yeah right and and or if
other projects yeah right and and or if like anything that comes to anything
like anything that comes to anything
like anything that comes to anything that comes has to go through them for
that comes has to go through them for
that comes has to go through them for one year or whatever mm-hmm and i would
one year or whatever mm-hmm and i would
one year or whatever mm-hmm and i would be a timeline on it but I’d be willing
be a timeline on it but I’d be willing
be a timeline on it but I’d be willing to offer that up to the agencies because
to offer that up to the agencies because
to offer that up to the agencies because at the end they they want to provide the
at the end they they want to provide the
at the end they they want to provide the best well they should one probably the
best well they should one probably the
best well they should one probably the best result to their client when that
best result to their client when that
best result to their client when that works yeah and if you have a process on
works yeah and if you have a process on
works yeah and if you have a process on how to get that and it needs to come
how to get that and it needs to come
how to get that and it needs to come from talking to client directly I get
from talking to client directly I get
from talking to client directly I get the fear I get the figure just going to
the fear I get the figure just going to
the fear I get the figure just going to poach clients right you know the website
poach clients right you know the website
poach clients right you know the website development business is highly
development business is highly
development business is highly competitive and you know they want they
competitive and you know they want they
competitive and you know they want they don’t want you poach a client and then
don’t want you poach a client and then
don’t want you poach a client and then even if it’s only for the copy but then
even if it’s only for the copy but then
even if it’s only for the copy but then it could be like oh you know what this
it could be like oh you know what this
it could be like oh you know what this is other website guys who are really
is other website guys who are really
is other website guys who are really good to you should go with them right
good to you should go with them right
good to you should go with them right not big lost totally well they like the
not big lost totally well they like the
not big lost totally well they like the control to I think I think it’s more a
control to I think I think it’s more a
control to I think I think it’s more a matter of and sometimes they’ll up
matter of and sometimes they’ll up
matter of and sometimes they’ll up charge it or or even if they don’t
charge it or or even if they don’t
charge it or or even if they don’t charge it they want to control the cost
charge it they want to control the cost
charge it they want to control the cost for their client make it really low so
for their client make it really low so
for their client make it really low so they have this like they might say okay
they have this like they might say okay
they have this like they might say okay I’m developing a website for you and you
I’m developing a website for you and you
I’m developing a website for you and you know this will include the copy and then
know this will include the copy and then
know this will include the copy and then they want to like you know they want to
they want to like you know they want to
they want to like you know they want to need a bit low because they want to keep
need a bit low because they want to keep
need a bit low because they want to keep the under certain control costs which
the under certain control costs which
the under certain control costs which doesn’t make sense the client if it’s
doesn’t make sense the client if it’s
doesn’t make sense the client if it’s not going to get enough so yeah yeah and
not going to get enough so yeah yeah and
not going to get enough so yeah yeah and a lot of vacancies don’t respect the
a lot of vacancies don’t respect the
a lot of vacancies don’t respect the subcontractors enough and I ain’t want
subcontractors enough and I ain’t want
subcontractors enough and I ain’t want you don’t under it I mean I think the
you don’t under it I mean I think the
you don’t under it I mean I think the pricing the the payment will still
pricing the the payment will still
pricing the the payment will still likely go through the SEO company the
likely go through the SEO company the
likely go through the SEO company the web company yeah you can be fine with
web company yeah you can be fine with
web company yeah you can be fine with that say hey you guys invoice I’ll
that say hey you guys invoice I’ll
that say hey you guys invoice I’ll invoice you and then you book you push
invoice you and then you book you push
invoice you and then you book you push them um there’s a lot of companies that
them um there’s a lot of companies that
them um there’s a lot of companies that start off that way doing those kinds of
start off that way doing those kinds of
start off that way doing those kinds of partnerships and then just end up find
partnerships and then just end up find
partnerships and then just end up find their own clients because it’s a more
their own clients because it’s a more
their own clients because it’s a more ideal situation yeah um so what you know
ideal situation yeah um so what you know
ideal situation yeah um so what you know it really depends on the personality of
it really depends on the personality of
it really depends on the personality of the people who own that business if they
the people who own that business if they
the people who own that business if they see was value either if they just see
see was value either if they just see
see was value either if they just see you as a you know piece of me you know
you as a you know piece of me you know
you as a you know piece of me you know like they know the copywriter another
like they know the copywriter another
like they know the copywriter another copywriter right right people really
copywriter right right people really
copywriter right right people really value and some people don’t so yeah I
value and some people don’t so yeah I
value and some people don’t so yeah I agree um so it’s one avenue worth
agree um so it’s one avenue worth
agree um so it’s one avenue worth looking at but I’d also be looking at
looking at but I’d also be looking at
looking at but I’d also be looking at who else it is selling to your ideal
who else it is selling to your ideal
who else it is selling to your ideal client base business coaches accountants
client base business coaches accountants
client base business coaches accountants lawyers anybody who’s working with
lawyers anybody who’s working with
lawyers anybody who’s working with entrepreneurs again like hyper local to
entrepreneurs again like hyper local to
entrepreneurs again like hyper local to your area so you can go in and make a
your area so you can go in and make a
your area so you can go in and make a presentation maybe film it if there’s an
presentation maybe film it if there’s an
presentation maybe film it if there’s an opportunity but really this is kind of
opportunity but really this is kind of
opportunity but really this is kind of lead generation to help you get some
lead generation to help you get some
lead generation to help you get some ideal clients for yourself yeah I also
ideal clients for yourself yeah I also
ideal clients for yourself yeah I also plan to sort of leverage it I mean I
plan to sort of leverage it I mean I
plan to sort of leverage it I mean I think I like video filming it just if
think I like video filming it just if
think I like video filming it just if nothing else for the effect for myself
nothing else for the effect for myself
nothing else for the effect for myself but I also you know really do you want
but I also you know really do you want
but I also you know really do you want to develop an online course of some kind
to develop an online course of some kind
to develop an online course of some kind and so my thinking you know was I can
and so my thinking you know was I can
and so my thinking you know was I can this is kind of repurpose material that
this is kind of repurpose material that
this is kind of repurpose material that I can use to develop an online course
I can use to develop an online course
I can use to develop an online course for other people it’s that i can sell
for other people it’s that i can sell
for other people it’s that i can sell online then so it’s not even just
online then so it’s not even just
online then so it’s not even just workshop but that it provides another
workshop but that it provides another
workshop but that it provides another source of revenue for me sure i would
source of revenue for me sure i would
source of revenue for me sure i would look at i would look at that especially
look at i would look at that especially
look at i would look at that especially doing the twenty-dollar one or the forty
doing the twenty-dollar one or the forty
doing the twenty-dollar one or the forty dollar ones or if you’re going to do
dollar ones or if you’re going to do
dollar ones or if you’re going to do some free ones you can use some coaching
some free ones you can use some coaching
some free ones you can use some coaching or consulting and do those into live
or consulting and do those into live
or consulting and do those into live hangout sessions uh it’s a possibility
hangout sessions uh it’s a possibility
hangout sessions uh it’s a possibility of doing it when you’re working with
of doing it when you’re working with
of doing it when you’re working with like if you work with the business
like if you work with the business
like if you work with the business coaching he’s bringing 20 of his clients
coaching he’s bringing 20 of his clients
coaching he’s bringing 20 of his clients and my focus would be on giving
and my focus would be on giving
and my focus would be on giving those 20 people in same value and not
those 20 people in same value and not
those 20 people in same value and not necessarily worrying about videotaping
necessarily worrying about videotaping
necessarily worrying about videotaping it yeah I totally hurt that Yeah right
it yeah I totally hurt that Yeah right
it yeah I totally hurt that Yeah right cuz that you know you get one great
cuz that you know you get one great
cuz that you know you get one great client of that that’s yeah that’s a good
client of that that’s yeah that’s a good
client of that that’s yeah that’s a good meal ticket for the next you know track
meal ticket for the next you know track
meal ticket for the next you know track of time yeah um so I’ll be looking at
of time yeah um so I’ll be looking at
of time yeah um so I’ll be looking at you know like type in portland business
you know like type in portland business
you know like type in portland business coach and see who’s coming up and maybe
coach and see who’s coming up and maybe
coach and see who’s coming up and maybe even help them like give them a couple
even help them like give them a couple
even help them like give them a couple ideas for their website of what they
ideas for their website of what they
ideas for their website of what they think might be able to do how they
think might be able to do how they
think might be able to do how they explain themselves so it kind of
explain themselves so it kind of
explain themselves so it kind of demonstrates your value of what you can
demonstrates your value of what you can
demonstrates your value of what you can provide um yeah that’s it’s hard because
provide um yeah that’s it’s hard because
provide um yeah that’s it’s hard because a lot of entrepreneurs like the ideal
a lot of entrepreneurs like the ideal
a lot of entrepreneurs like the ideal clients are you looking for they don’t
clients are you looking for they don’t
clients are you looking for they don’t go to networking events right for the
go to networking events right for the
go to networking events right for the most part you know it’s herding cats
most part you know it’s herding cats
most part you know it’s herding cats like they’re too busy running their
like they’re too busy running their
like they’re too busy running their business you also the people go to
business you also the people go to
business you also the people go to networking events are super early stage
networking events are super early stage
networking events are super early stage or haven’t haven’t started yet and so
or haven’t haven’t started yet and so
or haven’t haven’t started yet and so it’s really hard to get any kind of
it’s really hard to get any kind of
it’s really hard to get any kind of ideal client out of that there are other
ideal client out of that there are other
ideal client out of that there are other groups to like there’s tak the
groups to like there’s tak the
groups to like there’s tak the entrepreneurs the entrepreneur community
entrepreneurs the entrepreneur community
entrepreneurs the entrepreneur community tech waipio i don’t know how many of
tech waipio i don’t know how many of
tech waipio i don’t know how many of them are based in what you’re at these
them are based in what you’re at these
them are based in what you’re at these guys have bigger like multi-million
guys have bigger like multi-million
guys have bigger like multi-million dollar businesses right I think waipio
dollar businesses right I think waipio
dollar businesses right I think waipio was eight or ten million dollars minimum
was eight or ten million dollars minimum
was eight or ten million dollars minimum revenue but so I mean they have the
revenue but so I mean they have the
revenue but so I mean they have the budget to be able to afford right help
budget to be able to afford right help
budget to be able to afford right help them with our country it’s worth looking
them with our country it’s worth looking
them with our country it’s worth looking into the different groups and
into the different groups and
into the different groups and organizations and like I would I would
organizations and like I would I would
organizations and like I would I would just spend a half a day doing research
just spend a half a day doing research
just spend a half a day doing research on everybody in Portland who’s
on everybody in Portland who’s
on everybody in Portland who’s connecting with entrepreneurs and then
connecting with entrepreneurs and then
connecting with entrepreneurs and then figure out how you can get on their
figure out how you can get on their
figure out how you can get on their radar and do a free event for their
radar and do a free event for their
radar and do a free event for their clients try to line up three or four or
clients try to line up three or four or
clients try to line up three or four or five of those and if you’ve already done
five of those and if you’ve already done
five of those and if you’ve already done it a couple times you got like the flow
it a couple times you got like the flow
it a couple times you got like the flow what you’re going to say and what
what you’re going to say and what
what you’re going to say and what resonates and um then I think that’s
resonates and um then I think that’s
resonates and um then I think that’s what I want everybody walking out
what I want everybody walking out
what I want everybody walking out feeling like it was a lot of value there
feeling like it was a lot of value there
feeling like it was a lot of value there and you’re naturally going to get people
and you’re naturally going to get people
and you’re naturally going to get people who want to come and work with you yeah
who want to come and work with you yeah
who want to come and work with you yeah yeah no I know exact what you’re saying
yeah no I know exact what you’re saying
yeah no I know exact what you’re saying that’s part of why i was doing these pro
that’s part of why i was doing these pro
that’s part of why i was doing these pro shops you just kind of get practice for
shops you just kind of get practice for
shops you just kind of get practice for other events another reason is obviously
other events another reason is obviously
other events another reason is obviously to repurpose that material that’s I mean
to repurpose that material that’s I mean
to repurpose that material that’s I mean that is one of the challenges for me as
that is one of the challenges for me as
that is one of the challenges for me as a as a business owner and I’m sure you
a as a business owner and I’m sure you
a as a business owner and I’m sure you can relate you know or come across other
can relate you know or come across other
can relate you know or come across other people who understand this is you know
people who understand this is you know
people who understand this is you know like I think people really want to work
like I think people really want to work
like I think people really want to work with people they know like a trois tribe
with people they know like a trois tribe
with people they know like a trois tribe that they know you I do a lot better
that they know you I do a lot better
that they know you I do a lot better obviously if I’m face to face with
obviously if I’m face to face with
obviously if I’m face to face with somebody but like you said a lot of my
somebody but like you said a lot of my
somebody but like you said a lot of my and that’s one of the reasons why i
and that’s one of the reasons why i
and that’s one of the reasons why i started going to networking events but a
started going to networking events but a
started going to networking events but a lot of the a lot because a lot of the
lot of the a lot because a lot of the
lot of the a lot because a lot of the people who really are my target are
people who really are my target are
people who really are my target are really online they’re online
really online they’re online
really online they’re online entrepreneurs who are launching courses
entrepreneurs who are launching courses
entrepreneurs who are launching courses or launching products online and selling
or launching products online and selling
or launching products online and selling things online and so reaching those
things online and so reaching those
things online and so reaching those people with a cold you know cold call or
people with a cold you know cold call or
people with a cold you know cold call or email isn’t always super effective
email isn’t always super effective
email isn’t always super effective because they don’t really know you know
because they don’t really know you know
because they don’t really know you know they don’t know me from Adam so it’s
they don’t know me from Adam so it’s
they don’t know me from Adam so it’s just going it’s getting into into those
just going it’s getting into into those
just going it’s getting into into those networks and so I like your idea of
networks and so I like your idea of
networks and so I like your idea of looking at other organizations because
looking at other organizations because
looking at other organizations because maybe there’s other groups both online
maybe there’s other groups both online
maybe there’s other groups both online and here locally that have more of those
and here locally that have more of those
and here locally that have more of those kinds of entrepreneurs as members yeah
kinds of entrepreneurs as members yeah
kinds of entrepreneurs as members yeah and and like every entrepreneur is a
and and like every entrepreneur is a
and and like every entrepreneur is a website every entrepreneur needs mm-hmm
website every entrepreneur needs mm-hmm
website every entrepreneur needs mm-hmm copy for their website for their store
copy for their website for their store
copy for their website for their store for the product descriptions for their
for the product descriptions for their
for the product descriptions for their resume you know like if they’re going
resume you know like if they’re going
resume you know like if they’re going out and speaking they may need to update
out and speaking they may need to update
out and speaking they may need to update their bio like there’s a lot of
their bio like there’s a lot of
their bio like there’s a lot of different things that people could use
different things that people could use
different things that people could use entrepreneur needs copy in their
entrepreneur needs copy in their
entrepreneur needs copy in their business um it’s probably the fastest
business um it’s probably the fastest
business um it’s probably the fastest way to get you like as much as I love
way to get you like as much as I love
way to get you like as much as I love YouTube and all of that it’s probably
YouTube and all of that it’s probably
YouTube and all of that it’s probably the fastest way to get you a stable of
the fastest way to get you a stable of
the fastest way to get you a stable of clients that are in the bills and
clients that are in the bills and
clients that are in the bills and helping you might give you some
helping you might give you some
helping you might give you some breathing room YouTube is people who are
breathing room YouTube is people who are
breathing room YouTube is people who are searching for it and you know hoping
searching for it and you know hoping
searching for it and you know hoping that one of them becomes right the
that one of them becomes right the
that one of them becomes right the client most people will never pay for
client most people will never pay for
client most people will never pay for anything or everyone to contact you
anything or everyone to contact you
anything or everyone to contact you right all right that’s just the nature
right all right that’s just the nature
right all right that’s just the nature of the game but here you have people who
of the game but here you have people who
of the game but here you have people who are I think it’s a much longer term play
are I think it’s a much longer term play
are I think it’s a much longer term play like YouTube is a longer term play and
like YouTube is a longer term play and
like YouTube is a longer term play and allows you to build up an audience and
allows you to build up an audience and
allows you to build up an audience and Lau’s you to make much bigger moves
Lau’s you to make much bigger moves
Lau’s you to make much bigger moves mm-hmm want to sell courses the need an
mm-hmm want to sell courses the need an
mm-hmm want to sell courses the need an audience who will sell it to that you’ll
audience who will sell it to that you’ll
audience who will sell it to that you’ll do much better at with an online
do much better at with an online
do much better at with an online strategy then with a going to event
strategy then with a going to event
strategy then with a going to event there’s 10 to 20 people at and Trent
there’s 10 to 20 people at and Trent
there’s 10 to 20 people at and Trent then trying to sell your dirty dollar
then trying to sell your dirty dollar
then trying to sell your dirty dollar course or whatever just the numbers
course or whatever just the numbers
course or whatever just the numbers don’t add up mm-hmm but in the short run
don’t add up mm-hmm but in the short run
don’t add up mm-hmm but in the short run like in the the trading time for money
like in the the trading time for money
like in the the trading time for money kind of business that’s that’s
kind of business that’s that’s
kind of business that’s that’s like–that’s what i would spend most of
like–that’s what i would spend most of
like–that’s what i would spend most of my effort yeah those introductions and
my effort yeah those introductions and
my effort yeah those introductions and trying to do those free seminars to
trying to do those free seminars to
trying to do those free seminars to build some connections and build some
build some connections and build some
build some connections and build some build some business going it’s exciting
build some business going it’s exciting
build some business going it’s exciting like squiddy you’ve done a couple now
like squiddy you’ve done a couple now
like squiddy you’ve done a couple now swimming those into let’s start talking
swimming those into let’s start talking
swimming those into let’s start talking exactly yeah no I agree i think you’re
exactly yeah no I agree i think you’re
exactly yeah no I agree i think you’re right a lot into visible over longer
right a lot into visible over longer
right a lot into visible over longer term play which I just wanted still
term play which I just wanted still
term play which I just wanted still committed to it because I think it’s a
committed to it because I think it’s a
committed to it because I think it’s a great way to communicate what I do also
great way to communicate what I do also
great way to communicate what I do also and then you know I think I just need to
and then you know I think I just need to
and then you know I think I just need to that’s one thing I’ve given it to doing
that’s one thing I’ve given it to doing
that’s one thing I’ve given it to doing is you know leveraging that a little bit
is you know leveraging that a little bit
is you know leveraging that a little bit more I’ve been making these YouTube
more I’ve been making these YouTube
more I’ve been making these YouTube videos and then not you know I’ve been
videos and then not you know I’ve been
videos and then not you know I’ve been posting my twitter but not post them on
posting my twitter but not post them on
posting my twitter but not post them on my youtube channel or I haven’t but or
my youtube channel or I haven’t but or
my youtube channel or I haven’t but or not I’m not YouTube not you posting them
not I’m not YouTube not you posting them
not I’m not YouTube not you posting them on my Facebook page and then I haven’t
on my Facebook page and then I haven’t
on my Facebook page and then I haven’t been really promoting it you know in
been really promoting it you know in
been really promoting it you know in everywhere that I can so haven’t been
everywhere that I can so haven’t been
everywhere that I can so haven’t been sending emails out so things like that
sending emails out so things like that
sending emails out so things like that so i think i’m gonna start i’ll
so i think i’m gonna start i’ll
so i think i’m gonna start i’ll definitely get started setting them up
definitely get started setting them up
definitely get started setting them up by email at least my copywriting ones
by email at least my copywriting ones
by email at least my copywriting ones that idea once a week and then I’m gonna
that idea once a week and then I’m gonna
that idea once a week and then I’m gonna start promoting like with a little mini
start promoting like with a little mini
start promoting like with a little mini trailer videos on Facebook and snapchat
trailer videos on Facebook and snapchat
trailer videos on Facebook and snapchat I just start recently got a snapchat a
I just start recently got a snapchat a
I just start recently got a snapchat a love addict by the way my 14 year old
love addict by the way my 14 year old
love addict by the way my 14 year old daughter’s I’ll have to show me how to
daughter’s I’ll have to show me how to
daughter’s I’ll have to show me how to use it and I still was so confused
use it and I still was so confused
use it and I still was so confused because it’s it’s kind of confusing but
because it’s it’s kind of confusing but
because it’s it’s kind of confusing but anyway it’s a great it’s a great fun fun
anyway it’s a great it’s a great fun fun
anyway it’s a great it’s a great fun fun platform to so anyway just things like
platform to so anyway just things like
platform to so anyway just things like that so that I can really I mean I’m
that so that I can really I mean I’m
that so that I can really I mean I’m committed to doing it so might as well
committed to doing it so might as well
committed to doing it so might as well keep promoting it and try and build my
keep promoting it and try and build my
keep promoting it and try and build my audience more there so yeah I think I
audience more there so yeah I think I
audience more there so yeah I think I think as well just by keeping doing it
think as well just by keeping doing it
think as well just by keeping doing it you focus on the content keep getting
you focus on the content keep getting
you focus on the content keep getting the content better right like somebody
the content better right like somebody
the content better right like somebody watch your video and want to instantly
watch your video and want to instantly
watch your video and want to instantly share it to their audience uh you know
share it to their audience uh you know
share it to their audience uh you know that’s it that’s a constant struggle for
that’s it that’s a constant struggle for
that’s it that’s a constant struggle for me I think I probably go through this
me I think I probably go through this
me I think I probably go through this once a quarter where I look at my
once a quarter where I look at my
once a quarter where I look at my channel look at my videos like ah I
channel look at my videos like ah I
channel look at my videos like ah I should be I should have more views and
should be I should have more views and
should be I should have more views and should have more subscribers than I’m at
should have more subscribers than I’m at
should have more subscribers than I’m at now and you know sure I have you know
now and you know sure I have you know
now and you know sure I have you know quarter without subscribers or whatever
quarter without subscribers or whatever
quarter without subscribers or whatever but it still feels like it’s the quality
but it still feels like it’s the quality
but it still feels like it’s the quality of stuff I’m I know and I mean
of stuff I’m I know and I mean
of stuff I’m I know and I mean no it’s a lot but it’s still not a lot
no it’s a lot but it’s still not a lot
no it’s a lot but it’s still not a lot in the YouTube world right I feel like
in the YouTube world right I feel like
in the YouTube world right I feel like with the stuff I’m putting out and the
with the stuff I’m putting out and the
with the stuff I’m putting out and the amount of effort hard work like why is
amount of effort hard work like why is
amount of effort hard work like why is it so low convert to where I think it
it so low convert to where I think it
it so low convert to where I think it should be and about once a quarter I go
should be and about once a quarter I go
should be and about once a quarter I go through that we’re like I kind of market
through that we’re like I kind of market
through that we’re like I kind of market at market how can I market this more you
at market how can I market this more you
at market how can I market this more you know what you should I talk to her how
know what you should I talk to her how
know what you should I talk to her how can I pump this out more on my Twitter
can I pump this out more on my Twitter
can I pump this out more on my Twitter newsletter email list or whatever um and
newsletter email list or whatever um and
newsletter email list or whatever um and at the end of the day always comes down
at the end of the day always comes down
at the end of the day always comes down to just make better stuff right right
to just make better stuff right right
to just make better stuff right right box because that’s work uh and so you
box because that’s work uh and so you
box because that’s work uh and so you know doing that doing the quantity helps
know doing that doing the quantity helps
know doing that doing the quantity helps you get to the quality like keep doing
you get to the quality like keep doing
you get to the quality like keep doing it every week the consistency your video
it every week the consistency your video
it every week the consistency your video is now are better than they were when
is now are better than they were when
is now are better than they were when they started you know rii videos better
they started you know rii videos better
they started you know rii videos better than the last um and so like there is no
than the last um and so like there is no
than the last um and so like there is no magic bullet yes like absolutely put it
magic bullet yes like absolutely put it
magic bullet yes like absolutely put it out to the newsletter put it on facebook
out to the newsletter put it on facebook
out to the newsletter put it on facebook it’ll drive a couple more views um but
it’ll drive a couple more views um but
it’ll drive a couple more views um but the real thing is going to be making the
the real thing is going to be making the
the real thing is going to be making the videos better owning the message better
videos better owning the message better
videos better owning the message better when I watch it I want to instantly
when I watch it I want to instantly
when I watch it I want to instantly apply what you what you said or sure
apply what you what you said or sure
apply what you what you said or sure what the friends going through something
what the friends going through something
what the friends going through something similar and that’s a that’s a high bar
similar and that’s a that’s a high bar
similar and that’s a that’s a high bar yea high even for me for my videos is a
yea high even for me for my videos is a
yea high even for me for my videos is a high bar people watch the video and even
high bar people watch the video and even
high bar people watch the video and even if they like it they don’t share it
if they like it they don’t share it
if they like it they don’t share it mm-hmm so I’ve got to get better right
mm-hmm so I’ve got to get better right
mm-hmm so I’ve got to get better right I’ve got it Mike Witt is better um yeah
I’ve got it Mike Witt is better um yeah
I’ve got it Mike Witt is better um yeah I mean I that is definitely one thing I
I mean I that is definitely one thing I
I mean I that is definitely one thing I that was my first focus is making it
that was my first focus is making it
that was my first focus is making it better which I feel like there will wait
better which I feel like there will wait
better which I feel like there will wait like you said the way better than they
like you said the way better than they
like you said the way better than they were even like even four months ago I
were even like even four months ago I
were even like even four months ago I just like the contents that are the
just like the contents that are the
just like the contents that are the headlines are better you know there’s a
headlines are better you know there’s a
headlines are better you know there’s a lot there’s a lot of improvement but
lot there’s a lot of improvement but
lot there’s a lot of improvement but you’re right i mean I could you know I
you’re right i mean I could you know I
you’re right i mean I could you know I can still make it better right you can
can still make it better right you can
can still make it better right you can always make it better and I don’t you
always make it better and I don’t you
always make it better and I don’t you know make it more intriguing for people
know make it more intriguing for people
know make it more intriguing for people to keep watching more and more so I know
to keep watching more and more so I know
to keep watching more and more so I know you’ve got I mean you’re insane how many
you’ve got I mean you’re insane how many
you’ve got I mean you’re insane how many videos you put Alex I don’t know how you
videos you put Alex I don’t know how you
videos you put Alex I don’t know how you do it like that yeah i mean i do well on
do it like that yeah i mean i do well on
do it like that yeah i mean i do well on the team right touches me yeah right
the team right touches me yeah right
the team right touches me yeah right there’s six of us who just do youtube uh
there’s six of us who just do youtube uh
there’s six of us who just do youtube uh and it’s it’s also you know we could
and it’s it’s also you know we could
and it’s it’s also you know we could pump out what we could do 20 videos a
pump out what we could do 20 videos a
pump out what we could do 20 videos a day if you wanted to but then the
day if you wanted to but then the
day if you wanted to but then the quality would suffer right this is low
quality would suffer right this is low
quality would suffer right this is low that we can put out with the quality
that we can put out with the quality
that we can put out with the quality that I want at the moment yeah um so but
that I want at the moment yeah um so but
that I want at the moment yeah um so but but like my channel grew as I became
but like my channel grew as I became
but like my channel grew as I became more consistent as I started posting
more consistent as I started posting
more consistent as I started posting more regularly you can see the spike
more regularly you can see the spike
more regularly you can see the spike with fans and subscribers as well um
with fans and subscribers as well um
with fans and subscribers as well um yeah it’s helping me too i’m at 95 i’m
yeah it’s helping me too i’m at 95 i’m
yeah it’s helping me too i’m at 95 i’m almost at 100 yeah yeah i love it it’s
almost at 100 yeah yeah i love it it’s
almost at 100 yeah yeah i love it it’s coming it’s right around the corner
coming it’s right around the corner
coming it’s right around the corner right on fire I’ll be able to celebrate
cool well well I still think like the
cool well well I still think like the most important thing if you can get
most important thing if you can get
most important thing if you can get those workshops with those connectors
those workshops with those connectors
those workshops with those connectors focus on that for the next month ah you
focus on that for the next month ah you
focus on that for the next month ah you know I don’t know what your look time
know I don’t know what your look time
know I don’t know what your look time looks like today but sit down and make a
looks like today but sit down and make a
looks like today but sit down and make a list of all the business coaches in
list of all the business coaches in
list of all the business coaches in Portland and yeah I love it reach out to
Portland and yeah I love it reach out to
Portland and yeah I love it reach out to this actually what I do in my networking
this actually what I do in my networking
this actually what I do in my networking group said anything about like you know
group said anything about like you know
group said anything about like you know them specifically so that’s a great idea
them specifically so that’s a great idea
them specifically so that’s a great idea I mean also it’s a definitely great
I mean also it’s a definitely great
I mean also it’s a definitely great place to start i would i would just
place to start i would i would just
place to start i would i would just question again a lot of people go to
question again a lot of people go to
question again a lot of people go to network into groups are not successful
network into groups are not successful
network into groups are not successful yet and so they may not have the base
yet and so they may not have the base
yet and so they may not have the base that you’re looking for for ideal
that you’re looking for for ideal
that you’re looking for for ideal clients yeah so it’s not about place to
clients yeah so it’s not about place to
clients yeah so it’s not about place to start it’s not a bad place to get a
start it’s not a bad place to get a
start it’s not a bad place to get a little more experience I just look at
little more experience I just look at
little more experience I just look at the room when you come in like are these
the room when you come in like are these
the room when you come in like are these the people that you want to eventually
the people that you want to eventually
the people that you want to eventually sell stuff to or not and that mean it
sell stuff to or not and that mean it
sell stuff to or not and that mean it may mean looking outside your current
may mean looking outside your current
may mean looking outside your current group to other you know more successful
group to other you know more successful
group to other you know more successful coaches who aren’t going to networking
coaches who aren’t going to networking
coaches who aren’t going to networking groups but just make an introduction and
groups but just make an introduction and
groups but just make an introduction and saying this is what you want to do we’re
saying this is what you want to do we’re
saying this is what you want to do we’re grabbing coffee or having a quick phone
grabbing coffee or having a quick phone
grabbing coffee or having a quick phone call you can write it you know you can
call you can write it you know you can
call you can write it you know you can write a great email your you do copy so
write a great email your you do copy so
write a great email your you do copy so um so I’m so here go and I agree for it
um so I’m so here go and I agree for it
um so I’m so here go and I agree for it yeah totally cool awesome thank you so
yeah totally cool awesome thank you so
yeah totally cool awesome thank you so much Evan well I have a great month will
much Evan well I have a great month will
much Evan well I have a great month will connect with you soon good luck into
connect with you soon good luck into
connect with you soon good luck into those hundreds of subscribers and next
those hundreds of subscribers and next
those hundreds of subscribers and next time we’ll talk i’ll be at a hundred yes
time we’ll talk i’ll be at a hundred yes
time we’ll talk i’ll be at a hundred yes yes and have done a couple seminars to
yes and have done a couple seminars to
yes and have done a couple seminars to yep absolutely alright thanks Jen thank
yep absolutely alright thanks Jen thank
yep absolutely alright thanks Jen thank you that tech 11 cheers
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