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Evan Carmichael Radio Show – Episode #29


hello will believe nation welcome to

hello will believe nation welcome to another edition of the Evan Carmichael

another edition of the Evan Carmichael

another edition of the Evan Carmichael show I believe in entrepreneurs and this

show I believe in entrepreneurs and this

show I believe in entrepreneurs and this show is all about making you a success

show is all about making you a success

show is all about making you a success with your company now I’m really excited

with your company now I’m really excited

with your company now I’m really excited about today’s show today we’re talking

about today’s show today we’re talking

about today’s show today we’re talking about how to get bigger clients how to

about how to get bigger clients how to

about how to get bigger clients how to land bigger deals and I know a lot of

land bigger deals and I know a lot of

land bigger deals and I know a lot of you and this is me when I was starting

you and this is me when I was starting

you and this is me when I was starting up to you’re frustrated you’re not

up to you’re frustrated you’re not

up to you’re frustrated you’re not getting the momentum you want you’re not

getting the momentum you want you’re not

getting the momentum you want you’re not making the kind of money you want you’re

making the kind of money you want you’re

making the kind of money you want you’re tired of working with customers so we

tired of working with customers so we

tired of working with customers so we not respect you or value your time and

not respect you or value your time and

not respect you or value your time and now for value what you do enough and

now for value what you do enough and

now for value what you do enough and you’re not where you want to be yet and

you’re not where you want to be yet and

you’re not where you want to be yet and part of getting to that whole part of

part of getting to that whole part of

part of getting to that whole part of reaching your dreams is being able to

reaching your dreams is being able to

reaching your dreams is being able to work with clients who can afford to

work with clients who can afford to

work with clients who can afford to really pay you what your work and help

really pay you what your work and help

really pay you what your work and help you build your movement and start to

you build your movement and start to

you build your movement and start to change the world to the better so if

change the world to the better so if

change the world to the better so if you’re frustrated you’re not in that

you’re frustrated you’re not in that

you’re frustrated you’re not in that place yet you’re getting your goals

place yet you’re getting your goals

place yet you’re getting your goals you’re not getting big enough clients

you’re not getting big enough clients

you’re not getting big enough clients yet this show is for you now i’m really

yet this show is for you now i’m really

yet this show is for you now i’m really excited here’s what i’m going to talk

excited here’s what i’m going to talk

excited here’s what i’m going to talk about i’m going to talk about from my

about i’m going to talk about from my

about i’m going to talk about from my experience how i got big companies to

experience how i got big companies to

experience how i got big companies to fund my product development i’m going to

fund my product development i’m going to

fund my product development i’m going to talk about how i turned a

talk about how i turned a

talk about how i turned a five-hundred-dollar one-off deal into a

five-hundred-dollar one-off deal into a

five-hundred-dollar one-off deal into a six-figure annually deal and how I got

six-figure annually deal and how I got

six-figure annually deal and how I got to work with Donald Trump closing him on

to work with Donald Trump closing him on

to work with Donald Trump closing him on a deal and then sharing my formula for

a deal and then sharing my formula for

a deal and then sharing my formula for how to go out and get big clients to

how to go out and get big clients to

how to go out and get big clients to work with you so let’s get started okay

work with you so let’s get started okay

work with you so let’s get started okay you know if you if you didn’t 8020

you know if you if you didn’t 8020

you know if you if you didn’t 8020 analysis on your customer base if you

analysis on your customer base if you

analysis on your customer base if you look at your customer to look at where

look at your customer to look at where

look at your customer to look at where most of your revenue is coming from

most of your revenue is coming from

most of your revenue is coming from you’ll probably find that most of the

you’ll probably find that most of the

you’ll probably find that most of the income comes from a few key clients I

income comes from a few key clients I

income comes from a few key clients I mean a lot of businesses that’s not a

mean a lot of businesses that’s not a

mean a lot of businesses that’s not a t20 that could be 90 10 or 95 5 where

t20 that could be 90 10 or 95 5 where

t20 that could be 90 10 or 95 5 where most of your income comes from a few key

most of your income comes from a few key

most of your income comes from a few key clients they’re larger they love what

clients they’re larger they love what

clients they’re larger they love what you do they integrated what you have

you do they integrated what you have

you do they integrated what you have into their businesses of their personal

into their businesses of their personal

into their businesses of their personal lives you are part of their daily

lives you are part of their daily

lives you are part of their daily existence now what you want to do is try

existence now what you want to do is try

existence now what you want to do is try to move upstream learn more of those

to move upstream learn more of those

to move upstream learn more of those kinds of clients or even bigger clients

kinds of clients or even bigger clients

kinds of clients or even bigger clients get above them these guys have more

get above them these guys have more

get above them these guys have more money they have bigger needs and you can

money they have bigger needs and you can

money they have bigger needs and you can build your business

build your business

build your business round them they can lead you to the

round them they can lead you to the

round them they can lead you to the promised land now there’s nothing wrong

promised land now there’s nothing wrong

promised land now there’s nothing wrong with working with the little guys okay

with working with the little guys okay

with working with the little guys okay it can be very rewarding and can be a

it can be very rewarding and can be a

it can be very rewarding and can be a lot of fun it’s great to see that

lot of fun it’s great to see that

lot of fun it’s great to see that personal impact you’re having on

personal impact you’re having on

personal impact you’re having on somebody’s life for business the problem

somebody’s life for business the problem

somebody’s life for business the problem is that can be really hard and long to

is that can be really hard and long to

is that can be really hard and long to build a significant business off of them

build a significant business off of them

build a significant business off of them if you’re selling I can see more product

if you’re selling I can see more product

if you’re selling I can see more product and you’re going one by one by one by

and you’re going one by one by one by

and you’re going one by one by one by one it’s going to take a long time to

one it’s going to take a long time to

one it’s going to take a long time to build that up if you’re selling to

build that up if you’re selling to

build that up if you’re selling to businesses and you’re working with small

businesses and you’re working with small

businesses and you’re working with small businesses and entrepreneurs we don’t

businesses and entrepreneurs we don’t

businesses and entrepreneurs we don’t have a lot of money typically right

have a lot of money typically right

have a lot of money typically right entrepreneurs do not have a lot of money

entrepreneurs do not have a lot of money

entrepreneurs do not have a lot of money to spend and so again it can be very

to spend and so again it can be very

to spend and so again it can be very rewarding but it’s hard to build a

rewarding but it’s hard to build a

rewarding but it’s hard to build a business around it and a lot of

business around it and a lot of

business around it and a lot of entrepreneurs they fail they shut down

entrepreneurs they fail they shut down

entrepreneurs they fail they shut down and you spend a lot of time and effort

and you spend a lot of time and effort

and you spend a lot of time and effort and your trainers clients and then

and your trainers clients and then

and your trainers clients and then they’re no longer in business thanks

they’re no longer in business thanks

they’re no longer in business thanks what you want to do is identify what

what you want to do is identify what

what you want to do is identify what your ideal clients look like and create

your ideal clients look like and create

your ideal clients look like and create a plan to target them now there may be a

a plan to target them now there may be a

a plan to target them now there may be a few select smaller clients who you can

few select smaller clients who you can

few select smaller clients who you can grow with and they’ll spend more with

grow with and they’ll spend more with

grow with and they’ll spend more with you as they grow but it’s a risky

you as they grow but it’s a risky

you as they grow but it’s a risky strategy and I wouldn’t bet my business

strategy and I wouldn’t bet my business

strategy and I wouldn’t bet my business on it what I want to do is get that plan

on it what I want to do is get that plan

on it what I want to do is get that plan target the ideal customers now the

target the ideal customers now the

target the ideal customers now the bigger clients can also be your research

bigger clients can also be your research

bigger clients can also be your research and development department they can help

and development department they can help

and development department they can help fund your new product and King you to do

fund your new product and King you to do

fund your new product and King you to do it let me give you a quick example in my

it let me give you a quick example in my

it let me give you a quick example in my old software company we were constantly

old software company we were constantly

old software company we were constantly asking feedback from customers right not

asking feedback from customers right not

asking feedback from customers right not something you should do you always want

something you should do you always want

something you should do you always want to be talking to customers getting

to be talking to customers getting

to be talking to customers getting feedback asking them how things could be

feedback asking them how things could be

feedback asking them how things could be better our smaller kind did you must a

better our smaller kind did you must a

better our smaller kind did you must a lot of great ideas but most of them

lot of great ideas but most of them

lot of great ideas but most of them would apply only to that right now I

would apply only to that right now I

would apply only to that right now I wish your product could do this I wish

wish your product could do this I wish

wish your product could do this I wish your father could do that but it was

your father could do that but it was

your father could do that but it was only specific to what they were working

only specific to what they were working

only specific to what they were working on and we didn’t really know how much

on and we didn’t really know how much

on and we didn’t really know how much other people would really benefit from

other people would really benefit from

other people would really benefit from having those features in and so it’s a

having those features in and so it’s a

having those features in and so it’s a restore us right if we develop it and

restore us right if we develop it and

restore us right if we develop it and only one person wants it that’s a lot of

only one person wants it that’s a lot of

only one person wants it that’s a lot of waste of time it’s not worth the cost

waste of time it’s not worth the cost

waste of time it’s not worth the cost our bigger clients though they would ask

our bigger clients though they would ask

our bigger clients though they would ask the features and they pay us to create

the features and they pay us to create

the features and they pay us to create it for them arvest was completely

it for them arvest was completely

it for them arvest was completely removed and anyone else wanted those

removed and anyone else wanted those

removed and anyone else wanted those features

features

features would be a bonus for us so let me give

would be a bonus for us so let me give

would be a bonus for us so let me give you an example an example within one of

you an example an example within one of

you an example an example within one of our clients they wanted to have the

our clients they wanted to have the

our clients they wanted to have the software in Spanish get our software

software in Spanish get our software

software in Spanish get our software with English only so can you make expand

with English only so can you make expand

with English only so can you make expand it without a lot of people you know

it without a lot of people you know

it without a lot of people you know spanish working for us who want to be

spanish working for us who want to be

spanish working for us who want to be able to have them use the software and

able to have them use the software and

able to have them use the software and we weren’t sure if we wanted to go to

we weren’t sure if we wanted to go to

we weren’t sure if we wanted to go to the spanish market right we didn’t have

the spanish market right we didn’t have

the spanish market right we didn’t have enough data or feedback from other

enough data or feedback from other

enough data or feedback from other people saying hey we really want this in

people saying hey we really want this in

people saying hey we really want this in Spanish that could have been a big risky

Spanish that could have been a big risky

Spanish that could have been a big risky move for us to to hire these people to

move for us to to hire these people to

move for us to to hire these people to make it Spanish to have our developers

make it Spanish to have our developers

make it Spanish to have our developers created for them and in say what we did

created for them and in say what we did

created for them and in say what we did is we costed it up we set up day the

is we costed it up we set up day the

is we costed it up we set up day the higher the translator who understands

higher the translator who understands

higher the translator who understands kind of scientific language is a

kind of scientific language is a

kind of scientific language is a scientific software product it’s going

scientific software product it’s going

scientific software product it’s going to cost this amount of money and she

to cost this amount of money and she

to cost this amount of money and she then how our programmers go in and

then how our programmers go in and

then how our programmers go in and create it it’s going to be this number

create it it’s going to be this number

create it it’s going to be this number of nine hours right opportunity costs

of nine hours right opportunity costs

of nine hours right opportunity costs are making something else and we put

are making something else and we put

are making something else and we put together a budget so this is what it’s

together a budget so this is what it’s

together a budget so this is what it’s going to cost to do it and they were

going to cost to do it and they were

going to cost to do it and they were willing to pay for that development

willing to pay for that development

willing to pay for that development costs and we were kind of like mind

costs and we were kind of like mind

costs and we were kind of like mind blown like they’re going to pay us to

blown like they’re going to pay us to

blown like they’re going to pay us to make our product better and it’s yes

make our product better and it’s yes

make our product better and it’s yes because it’s making their lives way

because it’s making their lives way

because it’s making their lives way easier way better because we were an

easier way better because we were an

easier way better because we were an important part of their business so

important part of their business so

important part of their business so that’s what you want to do right those

that’s what you want to do right those

that’s what you want to do right those smaller guys do they have great ideas

smaller guys do they have great ideas

smaller guys do they have great ideas but they don’t have the budget to be

but they don’t have the budget to be

but they don’t have the budget to be able to afford any kind of custom work

able to afford any kind of custom work

able to afford any kind of custom work or custom development where you can

or custom development where you can

or custom development where you can build your business on the backs of

build your business on the backs of

build your business on the backs of these bigger customers now as you grow

these bigger customers now as you grow

these bigger customers now as you grow you’ll also find that it takes a lot of

you’ll also find that it takes a lot of

you’ll also find that it takes a lot of work dealing with any customers but it

work dealing with any customers but it

work dealing with any customers but it takes almost as much work dealing with

takes almost as much work dealing with

takes almost as much work dealing with the big guys and the small guys until

the big guys and the small guys until

the big guys and the small guys until you’re spending all of this time working

you’re spending all of this time working

you’re spending all of this time working on these small bills we need to be

on these small bills we need to be

on these small bills we need to be spending the same amount of time working

spending the same amount of time working

spending the same amount of time working on bigger deals so I used to be in a

on bigger deals so I used to be in a

on bigger deals so I used to be in a venture capital business the due

venture capital business the due

venture capital business the due diligence process the process you gota

diligence process the process you gota

diligence process the process you gota to to fund the deal right you research

to to fund the deal right you research

to to fund the deal right you research in a California you’re looking at their

in a California you’re looking at their

in a California you’re looking at their business plans and proposals and they’re

business plans and proposals and they’re

business plans and proposals and they’re coming in and pitching you and then you

coming in and pitching you and then you

coming in and pitching you and then you got to look into the business more on

got to look into the business more on

got to look into the business more on check references and call their

check references and call their

check references and call their customers a lot of work before you put

customers a lot of work before you put

customers a lot of work before you put money into a company

money into a company

money into a company a VC will typically start at around a

a VC will typically start at around a

a VC will typically start at around a half a million dollar range in terms of

half a million dollar range in terms of

half a million dollar range in terms of investment but it takes as much work to

investment but it takes as much work to

investment but it takes as much work to close half a million dollar deal as it

close half a million dollar deal as it

close half a million dollar deal as it does a five-million-dollar deal or 15

does a five-million-dollar deal or 15

does a five-million-dollar deal or 15 million dollar deal the returns though

million dollar deal the returns though

million dollar deal the returns though are way smaller on that half a million

are way smaller on that half a million

are way smaller on that half a million dollar deal so the venture capitalists

dollar deal so the venture capitalists

dollar deal so the venture capitalists prefer to go for the bigger deals

prefer to go for the bigger deals

prefer to go for the bigger deals because it’s the same work but more

because it’s the same work but more

because it’s the same work but more money to get the bigger deals you got to

money to get the bigger deals you got to

money to get the bigger deals you got to apply this strategy to your business as

apply this strategy to your business as

apply this strategy to your business as well those smaller clients they take up

well those smaller clients they take up

well those smaller clients they take up just as much time as the bigger ones and

just as much time as the bigger ones and

just as much time as the bigger ones and this may mean you have to fire some of

this may mean you have to fire some of

this may mean you have to fire some of your client and I know you know some

your client and I know you know some

your client and I know you know some people get frustrated and anxious and

people get frustrated and anxious and

people get frustrated and anxious and you don’t want to do it but if there are

you don’t want to do it but if there are

you don’t want to do it but if there are small clients that are chewing up your

small clients that are chewing up your

small clients that are chewing up your time and calling in and asking questions

time and calling in and asking questions

time and calling in and asking questions and you know they asking for for new

and you know they asking for for new

and you know they asking for for new things that you don’t have and it’s not

things that you don’t have and it’s not

things that you don’t have and it’s not worth of development time it’s not worth

worth of development time it’s not worth

worth of development time it’s not worth going out and doing it for them cuz it’s

going out and doing it for them cuz it’s

going out and doing it for them cuz it’s only 11 customer then you may have to

only 11 customer then you may have to

only 11 customer then you may have to fire some of those clients and focus on

fire some of those clients and focus on

fire some of those clients and focus on the bigger ones here’s a way to look at

the bigger ones here’s a way to look at

the bigger ones here’s a way to look at it is this is important discussion you

it is this is important discussion you

it is this is important discussion you should have with yourself if you took

should have with yourself if you took

should have with yourself if you took yourself out of your business if you

yourself out of your business if you

yourself out of your business if you weren’t full time in your business

weren’t full time in your business

weren’t full time in your business answering customer questions doing

answering customer questions doing

answering customer questions doing customer support doing fulfillment

customer support doing fulfillment

customer support doing fulfillment shipping product meeting with clients

shipping product meeting with clients

shipping product meeting with clients all the laps up if you weren’t in that

all the laps up if you weren’t in that

all the laps up if you weren’t in that part of your business could you afford

part of your business could you afford

part of your business could you afford to hire someone to come on board and

to hire someone to come on board and

to hire someone to come on board and handle those smaller deals could you

handle those smaller deals could you

handle those smaller deals could you afford the higher so I’m going to come

afford the higher so I’m going to come

afford the higher so I’m going to come on board and do that and still be

on board and do that and still be

on board and do that and still be profitable that’s where a lot of

profitable that’s where a lot of

profitable that’s where a lot of companies is known and that’s why you’re

companies is known and that’s why you’re

companies is known and that’s why you’re making lesson you deserve that’s why

making lesson you deserve that’s why

making lesson you deserve that’s why some people are working out less

some people are working out less

some people are working out less reasonable wage in their own business

reasonable wage in their own business

reasonable wage in their own business because they’re working with clients

because they’re working with clients

because they’re working with clients that are too small if you can’t keep

that are too small if you can’t keep

that are too small if you can’t keep business to the point where you can hire

business to the point where you can hire

business to the point where you can hire somebody to come on board and manage

somebody to come on board and manage

somebody to come on board and manage those smaller clients then you focus

those smaller clients then you focus

those smaller clients then you focus should be on going after the bigger

should be on going after the bigger

should be on going after the bigger deals and as you grow slowly firing the

deals and as you grow slowly firing the

deals and as you grow slowly firing the smaller ones now there’s nothing wrong

smaller ones now there’s nothing wrong

smaller ones now there’s nothing wrong with starting some

with starting some

with starting some all you know if you’re going to go you

all you know if you’re going to go you

all you know if you’re going to go you have a goal I want to get I want to get

have a goal I want to get I want to get

have a goal I want to get I want to get Donald chump to be a customer right you

Donald chump to be a customer right you

Donald chump to be a customer right you got to have something you got to have

got to have something you got to have

got to have something you got to have some momentum some progress something

some momentum some progress something

some momentum some progress something the show him nothing wrong with starting

the show him nothing wrong with starting

the show him nothing wrong with starting small but you didn’t want to stay small

small but you didn’t want to stay small

small but you didn’t want to stay small that’s the problem that a lot of

that’s the problem that a lot of

that’s the problem that a lot of entrepreneurs treats they stay small

entrepreneurs treats they stay small

entrepreneurs treats they stay small they’ve seen the little game and they

they’ve seen the little game and they

they’ve seen the little game and they get so caught up in running their

get so caught up in running their

get so caught up in running their businesses the day-to-day grind that

businesses the day-to-day grind that

businesses the day-to-day grind that they never remember to get behind to

they never remember to get behind to

they never remember to get behind to grow to go up to those bigger deals so

grow to go up to those bigger deals so

grow to go up to those bigger deals so you want to plot that force you want to

you want to plot that force you want to

you want to plot that force you want to figure out who your ideal customers are

figure out who your ideal customers are

figure out who your ideal customers are and if you can’t reach them yet you’re

and if you can’t reach them yet you’re

and if you can’t reach them yet you’re going to aim lower start smaller and

going to aim lower start smaller and

going to aim lower start smaller and work towards those bigger deals now I

work towards those bigger deals now I

work towards those bigger deals now I want to share a quick story with you one

want to share a quick story with you one

want to share a quick story with you one of the first big clients I got was a

of the first big clients I got was a

of the first big clients I got was a major telecommunications company and

major telecommunications company and

major telecommunications company and they hired me and nine other experts to

they hired me and nine other experts to

they hired me and nine other experts to write for their blog and you said hey we

write for their blog and you said hey we

write for their blog and you said hey we want you to write 300 to 500 words on

want you to write 300 to 500 words on

want you to write 300 to 500 words on whatever topic you want and we’re going

whatever topic you want and we’re going

whatever topic you want and we’re going to post on the blog and we’re going to

to post on the blog and we’re going to

to post on the blog and we’re going to pay you five hundred dollars to do it I

pay you five hundred dollars to do it I

pay you five hundred dollars to do it I thought hey this is great exposure i was

thought hey this is great exposure i was

thought hey this is great exposure i was allowing to done it for free but firing

allowing to done it for free but firing

allowing to done it for free but firing the box is great I was just getting

the box is great I was just getting

the box is great I was just getting started at the time and I didn’t just

started at the time and I didn’t just

started at the time and I didn’t just want to give them what they asked for I

want to give them what they asked for I

want to give them what they asked for I didn’t write 300 words for them I don’t

didn’t write 300 words for them I don’t

didn’t write 300 words for them I don’t know 1500 words and I gave him my video

know 1500 words and I gave him my video

know 1500 words and I gave him my video and I promoted it to my newsletter and I

and I promoted it to my newsletter and I

and I promoted it to my newsletter and I shared it on my social media I gave them

shared it on my social media I gave them

shared it on my social media I gave them way more value than what they were

way more value than what they were

way more value than what they were asking for and everybody else just did

asking for and everybody else just did

asking for and everybody else just did the bare minimum right they did what

the bare minimum right they did what

the bare minimum right they did what they were paid to do they weren’t

they were paid to do they weren’t

they were paid to do they weren’t off they just did what they are

off they just did what they are

off they just did what they are paying to do they wrote three to five

paying to do they wrote three to five

paying to do they wrote three to five hundred words and after everybody

hundred words and after everybody

hundred words and after everybody unwritten their post my post got more

unwritten their post my post got more

unwritten their post my post got more views more likes more engaged in more

views more likes more engaged in more

views more likes more engaged in more comments that all of the other posts

comments that all of the other posts

comments that all of the other posts combined and so when the company was

combined and so when the company was

combined and so when the company was looking at seeing as you want to move

looking at seeing as you want to move

looking at seeing as you want to move forward with I was a natural choice and

forward with I was a natural choice and

forward with I was a natural choice and I turned that meal into something that

I turned that meal into something that

I turned that meal into something that became a six-figure business every year

became a six-figure business every year

became a six-figure business every year and that post went from popular dollars

and that post went from popular dollars

and that post went from popular dollars that i charged to 1500 to 2500 I kept

that i charged to 1500 to 2500 I kept

that i charged to 1500 to 2500 I kept increase in the price because I provided

increase in the price because I provided

increase in the price because I provided so much value and this is an important

so much value and this is an important

so much value and this is an important lesson because if you want to lend a big

lesson because if you want to lend a big

lesson because if you want to lend a big customers you don’t have to go in and

customers you don’t have to go in and

customers you don’t have to go in and just go for a huge deal right you don’t

just go for a huge deal right you don’t

just go for a huge deal right you don’t go in and after a a million-dollar deal

go in and after a a million-dollar deal

go in and after a a million-dollar deal start with something small so I was

start with something small so I was

start with something small so I was something easy so I was something that

something easy so I was something that

something easy so I was something that is is so stupid dumb easy for them to

is is so stupid dumb easy for them to

is is so stupid dumb easy for them to say yes to and then over deliver like

say yes to and then over deliver like

say yes to and then over deliver like crazy reduce the risks for them by

crazy reduce the risks for them by

crazy reduce the risks for them by starting on a small deal and then show

starting on a small deal and then show

starting on a small deal and then show your crazy value don’t just given what

your crazy value don’t just given what

your crazy value don’t just given what they asked for that’s that’s the entry

they asked for that’s that’s the entry

they asked for that’s that’s the entry price to getting in you got to go way

price to getting in you got to go way

price to getting in you got to go way above and beyond to give that value

above and beyond to give that value

above and beyond to give that value that’s how you can start working with

that’s how you can start working with

that’s how you can start working with big customers oh I get to the call I

big customers oh I get to the call I

big customers oh I get to the call I have Bernice on the line Bernice where

have Bernice on the line Bernice where

have Bernice on the line Bernice where are you from and how can I help yes a

are you from and how can I help yes a

are you from and how can I help yes a little Westchester but I only a

little Westchester but I only a

little Westchester but I only a barbershop hair salon in the block in

barbershop hair salon in the block in

barbershop hair salon in the block in the Bronx alright welcome on board how

the Bronx alright welcome on board how

the Bronx alright welcome on board how can I go after my question is I’ve had

can I go after my question is I’ve had

can I go after my question is I’ve had the business for seven years and we do

the business for seven years and we do

the business for seven years and we do our Terran subscribe different ways to

our Terran subscribe different ways to

our Terran subscribe different ways to maximize our returns I don’t know what

maximize our returns I don’t know what

maximize our returns I don’t know what we’re doing wrong but you have to be

we’re doing wrong but you have to be

we’re doing wrong but you have to be progress and the hairdresser and the

progress and the hairdresser and the

progress and the hairdresser and the business was pretty okay it’s nice and

business was pretty okay it’s nice and

business was pretty okay it’s nice and smooth but I returns I’m not that good I

smooth but I returns I’m not that good I

smooth but I returns I’m not that good I mean we’re kind of doing different to

mean we’re kind of doing different to

mean we’re kind of doing different to receive more because we put out enough

receive more because we put out enough

receive more because we put out enough and you know you clean it off including

and you know you clean it off including

and you know you clean it off including to your shop and everything you’re

to your shop and everything you’re

to your shop and everything you’re getting new people coming in but you’re

getting new people coming in but you’re

getting new people coming in but you’re not getting people coming back no people

not getting people coming back no people

not getting people coming back no people coming and it’s in a given her my

coming and it’s in a given her my

coming and it’s in a given her my problem as a business aspect is why is

problem as a business aspect is why is

problem as a business aspect is why is it that at the end of the year when we

it that at the end of the year when we

it that at the end of the year when we found our returns but we’re not get

found our returns but we’re not get

found our returns but we’re not get enough back in return I we do have

enough back in return I we do have

enough back in return I we do have someone that does the classic forwards

someone that does the classic forwards

someone that does the classic forwards and stuff is that something that should

and stuff is that something that should

and stuff is that something that should be doing different so that I can eat my

be doing different so that I can eat my

be doing different so that I can eat my returns can be more you want more money

returns can be more you want more money

returns can be more you want more money back in the government near the year

back in the government near the year

back in the government near the year what yeah you need a better accounting

what yeah you need a better accounting

what yeah you need a better accounting for others where I yeah honest is like a

for others where I yeah honest is like a

for others where I yeah honest is like a good account and a good lawyer are

good account and a good lawyer are

good account and a good lawyer are really worth their weight in a business

really worth their weight in a business

really worth their weight in a business and I know how to start you know when

and I know how to start you know when

and I know how to start you know when you first started off we can’t really

you first started off we can’t really

you first started off we can’t really afford get people to come on board and

afford get people to come on board and

afford get people to come on board and you do everything yourself and the

you do everything yourself and the

you do everything yourself and the returns are going to be that but you

returns are going to be that but you

returns are going to be that but you don’t need to hire somebody great

don’t need to hire somebody great

don’t need to hire somebody great because not getting a lot doc and

because not getting a lot doc and

because not getting a lot doc and returns anyway but using the business or

returns anyway but using the business or

returns anyway but using the business or seven years and you’re growing and and

seven years and you’re growing and and

seven years and you’re growing and and you feel like you should be getting more

you feel like you should be getting more

you feel like you should be getting more money back then you need to work with a

money back then you need to work with a

money back then you need to work with a better account

better account

better account whoo-hoo using right now is it like a

whoo-hoo using right now is it like a

whoo-hoo using right now is it like a bookkeeper you have a full-on accountant

bookkeeper you have a full-on accountant

bookkeeper you have a full-on accountant helping you when on our books our last

helping you when on our books our last

helping you when on our books our last five years he said an accountant more so

five years he said an accountant more so

five years he said an accountant more so i guess if he thought he can stay on top

i guess if he thought he can stay on top

i guess if he thought he can stay on top of any changes that we should be at a

of any changes that we should be at a

of any changes that we should be at a benefit on back how could they i would

benefit on back how could they i would

benefit on back how could they i would hope that he ever do that but what

hope that he ever do that but what

hope that he ever do that but what should I look for is if i’m looking

should I look for is if i’m looking

should I look for is if i’m looking forward to switch them up will be better

forward to switch them up will be better

forward to switch them up will be better where we were kind of no person so

where we were kind of no person so

where we were kind of no person so specifically you looking for our tax

specifically you looking for our tax

specifically you looking for our tax account okay somebody who understands

account okay somebody who understands

account okay somebody who understands how to maximize the returns for

how to maximize the returns for

how to maximize the returns for businesses and what i would do is is

businesses and what i would do is is

businesses and what i would do is is audition them you know you can you can

audition them you know you can you can

audition them you know you can you can look up go to google type in bronx tax

look up go to google type in bronx tax

look up go to google type in bronx tax accountants or if you have some friends

accountants or if you have some friends

accountants or if you have some friends you can ask them who they are using but

you can ask them who they are using but

you can ask them who they are using but take your books to them and show them

take your books to them and show them

take your books to them and show them what you’re doing and and they’ll meet

what you’re doing and and they’ll meet

what you’re doing and and they’ll meet with you for you know an hour whatever

with you for you know an hour whatever

with you for you know an hour whatever just as an introduction to talk about it

just as an introduction to talk about it

just as an introduction to talk about it and see what they come up with see if

and see what they come up with see if

and see what they come up with see if they say oh I would have done the exact

they say oh I would have done the exact

they say oh I would have done the exact same thing or Fiji actually give you

same thing or Fiji actually give you

same thing or Fiji actually give you some strategies and ideas to help you

some strategies and ideas to help you

some strategies and ideas to help you save some money Oh another good try yeah

save some money Oh another good try yeah

save some money Oh another good try yeah happens example how much how much you

happens example how much how much you

happens example how much how much you getting backing and your returns right

getting backing and your returns right

getting backing and your returns right now I’m average maybe four thousand

now I’m average maybe four thousand

now I’m average maybe four thousand three four thousand a year now and yeah

three four thousand a year now and yeah

three four thousand a year now and yeah well we go I catch the year we that’s

well we go I catch the year we that’s

well we go I catch the year we that’s three four thousand and we spend at

three four thousand and we spend at

three four thousand and we spend at least about 10,000 keep the records of

least about 10,000 keep the records of

least about 10,000 keep the records of how much you spend to keep the place

how much you spend to keep the place

how much you spend to keep the place clean and maintain and the tears or

clean and maintain and the tears or

clean and maintain and the tears or anything like that we keep track of all

anything like that we keep track of all

anything like that we keep track of all those things so it’s better than that

those things so it’s better than that

those things so it’s better than that and you read like it better with us know

and you read like it better with us know

and you read like it better with us know and how much are your accounting fees

and how much are your accounting fees

and how much are your accounting fees how much is your accountant charging you

how much is your accountant charging you

how much is your accountant charging you every year you can charge about 3300 so

every year you can charge about 3300 so

every year you can charge about 3300 so yeah okay so I mean you get what you pay

yeah okay so I mean you get what you pay

yeah okay so I mean you get what you pay for that’s not a lot of money to 5304 to

for that’s not a lot of money to 5304 to

for that’s not a lot of money to 5304 to do the returns he’s making just taking

do the returns he’s making just taking

do the returns he’s making just taking what you’re giving them and violent like

what you’re giving them and violent like

what you’re giving them and violent like there’s no that right and I I

there’s no that right and I I

there’s no that right and I I mean you don’t feel like you can double

mean you don’t feel like you can double

mean you don’t feel like you can double your returns right so you can get to so

your returns right so you can get to so

your returns right so you can get to so you can get the ten thousand dollars in

you can get the ten thousand dollars in

you can get the ten thousand dollars in your turns you feel like that’s where I

your turns you feel like that’s where I

your turns you feel like that’s where I should be then it’s worth pain a better

should be then it’s worth pain a better

should be then it’s worth pain a better accountant two thousand dollars to help

accountant two thousand dollars to help

accountant two thousand dollars to help you figure that out because you know

you figure that out because you know

you figure that out because you know you’re spending more but you’re making

you’re spending more but you’re making

you’re spending more but you’re making even more on the back

even more on the back

even more on the back I’ll go to sonic sense right I don’t you

I’ll go to sonic sense right I don’t you

I’ll go to sonic sense right I don’t you know I mean did you can do you can keep

know I mean did you can do you can keep

know I mean did you can do you can keep into I last don’t know we do our books

into I last don’t know we do our books

into I last don’t know we do our books we do our own book even we keep track of

we do our own book even we keep track of

we do our own book even we keep track of all it necessarily bring everything to

all it necessarily bring everything to

all it necessarily bring everything to him received and will keep it in

him received and will keep it in

him received and will keep it in anything like that but if you can kind

anything like that but if you can kind

anything like that but if you can kind of put them together but we keep check

of put them together but we keep check

of put them together but we keep check it out ourselves okay and so I mean a

it out ourselves okay and so I mean a

it out ourselves okay and so I mean a good account will also take it overview

good account will also take it overview

good account will also take it overview of your bookkeeping nothing you’ll have

of your bookkeeping nothing you’ll have

of your bookkeeping nothing you’ll have to deal with themselves but they could

to deal with themselves but they could

to deal with themselves but they could they could give you some strategies for

they could give you some strategies for

they could give you some strategies for how to classify everything so that when

how to classify everything so that when

how to classify everything so that when it comes to them it saves them time

it comes to them it saves them time

it comes to them it saves them time right so that you’re not does you want

right so that you’re not does you want

right so that you’re not does you want to be spending hundreds of dollars every

to be spending hundreds of dollars every

to be spending hundreds of dollars every hour you know when when they could save

hour you know when when they could save

hour you know when when they could save you time up front so if you can find

you time up front so if you can find

you time up front so if you can find someone who’s helping with the strategy

someone who’s helping with the strategy

someone who’s helping with the strategy they can also with the bookkeeper in

they can also with the bookkeeper in

they can also with the bookkeeper in process and how how you’re classifying

process and how how you’re classifying

process and how how you’re classifying everything so that when you’re doing

everything so that when you’re doing

everything so that when you’re doing your bookkeeping you can make the

your bookkeeping you can make the

your bookkeeping you can make the information as easy as possible for them

information as easy as possible for them

information as easy as possible for them to be able to continue okay salsa rocks

to be able to continue okay salsa rocks

to be able to continue okay salsa rocks that is like audition right i mean you

that is like audition right i mean you

that is like audition right i mean you can do it today you go to google type up

can do it today you go to google type up

can do it today you go to google type up rocks tax accountants and and start

rocks tax accountants and and start

rocks tax accountants and and start making some appointments you use a

making some appointments you use a

making some appointments you use a lawyer as well you have a tax lawyer

lawyer as well you have a tax lawyer

lawyer as well you have a tax lawyer well okay depending on the size your

well okay depending on the size your

well okay depending on the size your business it could be something that you

business it could be something that you

business it could be something that you start looking into to how you how you

start looking into to how you how you

start looking into to how you how you set up your company structure you know

set up your company structure you know

set up your company structure you know maybe you need a holding company there’s

maybe you need a holding company there’s

maybe you need a holding company there’s a lot of tax savings that you can get

a lot of tax savings that you can get

a lot of tax savings that you can get what did your business do annually how

what did your business do annually how

what did your business do annually how much how much you make in right in your

much how much you make in right in your

much how much you make in right in your year maybe three four thousand a month

year maybe three four thousand a month

year maybe three four thousand a month 112 so what I got so I’m once you start

112 so what I got so I’m once you start

112 so what I got so I’m once you start getting 100,000 200,000 300,000 once you

getting 100,000 200,000 300,000 once you

getting 100,000 200,000 300,000 once you start kind of breaking six figures that

start kind of breaking six figures that

start kind of breaking six figures that may be more the time to hire to

may be more the time to hire to

may be more the time to hire to investigate looking at a tax lawyer they

investigate looking at a tax lawyer they

investigate looking at a tax lawyer they can pay for their weight but right now

can pay for their weight but right now

can pay for their weight but right now you’re ready to get a tax accountant and

you’re ready to get a tax accountant and

you’re ready to get a tax accountant and the money yeah so call me put me where I

the money yeah so call me put me where I

the money yeah so call me put me where I need to be up so that can make the

need to be up so that can make the

need to be up so that can make the substrate announced I’m not here okay so

substrate announced I’m not here okay so

substrate announced I’m not here okay so if you’re pretty instant all right I’ll

if you’re pretty instant all right I’ll

if you’re pretty instant all right I’ll be calling anyway okay bye-bye welcome

be calling anyway okay bye-bye welcome

be calling anyway okay bye-bye welcome back she doesn’t find Michael show I

back she doesn’t find Michael show I

back she doesn’t find Michael show I believe in on

believe in on

believe in on heard and this show is about making your

heard and this show is about making your

heard and this show is about making your business it’s done today we’re talking

business it’s done today we’re talking

business it’s done today we’re talking about how to land bigger clients and

about how to land bigger clients and

about how to land bigger clients and clothes bigger deal and I want to share

clothes bigger deal and I want to share

clothes bigger deal and I want to share with you the story of how I made a deal

with you the story of how I made a deal

with you the story of how I made a deal with Donald Trump now when i started my

with Donald Trump now when i started my

with Donald Trump now when i started my website at mechanical com one of my

website at mechanical com one of my

website at mechanical com one of my goals was to help a billion people i

goals was to help a billion people i

goals was to help a billion people i want to help a billion entrepreneurship

want to help a billion entrepreneurship

want to help a billion entrepreneurship my website it’s a big goal and when i

my website it’s a big goal and when i

my website it’s a big goal and when i started it it was just me it was just me

started it it was just me it was just me

started it it was just me it was just me myself and i that was the team i’m sure

myself and i that was the team i’m sure

myself and i that was the team i’m sure a lot of you can relate and i wanted to

a lot of you can relate and i wanted to

a lot of you can relate and i wanted to start sharing some great content and i

start sharing some great content and i

start sharing some great content and i figured you know what who’s the biggest

figured you know what who’s the biggest

figured you know what who’s the biggest name out there in entrepreneurship who’s

name out there in entrepreneurship who’s

name out there in entrepreneurship who’s the biggest guy who can get on board a

the biggest guy who can get on board a

the biggest guy who can get on board a lot of credibility and really explosive

lot of credibility and really explosive

lot of credibility and really explosive business forward and Donald Trump came

business forward and Donald Trump came

business forward and Donald Trump came to mind because he was just launching

to mind because he was just launching

to mind because he was just launching his apprentice TV show and he was

his apprentice TV show and he was

his apprentice TV show and he was everywhere and I thought I got to find a

everywhere and I thought I got to find a

everywhere and I thought I got to find a way to get to Donald chump I make this

way to get to Donald chump I make this

way to get to Donald chump I make this thing work the challenge is Donald Trump

thing work the challenge is Donald Trump

thing work the challenge is Donald Trump looked at my website there was nothing

looked at my website there was nothing

looked at my website there was nothing there right there just my picture and a

there right there just my picture and a

there right there just my picture and a little bit of information but there’s no

little bit of information but there’s no

little bit of information but there’s no momentum and so it doesn’t have a reason

momentum and so it doesn’t have a reason

momentum and so it doesn’t have a reason to want to work with me I didn’t want to

to want to work with me I didn’t want to

to want to work with me I didn’t want to create a negative first impression but I

create a negative first impression but I

create a negative first impression but I had my goal and so I started working

had my goal and so I started working

had my goal and so I started working towards my goal and here’s what i did

towards my goal and here’s what i did

towards my goal and here’s what i did and here’s how you can model this

and here’s how you can model this

and here’s how you can model this success okay i started small i started

success okay i started small i started

success okay i started small i started small but it didn’t stay small and i

small but it didn’t stay small and i

small but it didn’t stay small and i started by finding business coaches

started by finding business coaches

started by finding business coaches marketing consultants sales experts

marketing consultants sales experts

marketing consultants sales experts anybody who had information it would be

anybody who had information it would be

anybody who had information it would be of value to entrepreneurs and invited

of value to entrepreneurs and invited

of value to entrepreneurs and invited them to share content on my website so i

them to share content on my website so i

them to share content on my website so i did many deals many deals with

did many deals many deals with

did many deals many deals with low-hanging fruit people who you know

low-hanging fruit people who you know

low-hanging fruit people who you know they were just looking for any kind of

they were just looking for any kind of

they were just looking for any kind of exposure and i was giving it to them so

exposure and i was giving it to them so

exposure and i was giving it to them so they didn’t really care about what i had

they didn’t really care about what i had

they didn’t really care about what i had built up yet which was nothing and then

built up yet which was nothing and then

built up yet which was nothing and then we started helping them and i started

we started helping them and i started

we started helping them and i started with finding the model I misheard you’re

with finding the model I misheard you’re

with finding the model I misheard you’re making mistakes with them and figuring

making mistakes with them and figuring

making mistakes with them and figuring out how it could get better and gives

out how it could get better and gives

out how it could get better and gives them more value and when I built it up

them more value and when I built it up

them more value and when I built it up and I knew I had something that was

and I knew I had something that was

and I knew I had something that was working i said okay I’m ready to grow

working i said okay I’m ready to grow

working i said okay I’m ready to grow now I’m ready to grow and I wanted to

now I’m ready to grow and I wanted to

now I’m ready to grow and I wanted to move to the next year right along the

move to the next year right along the

move to the next year right along the along your you’re

along your you’re

along your you’re to your goal did that they dream they’re

to your goal did that they dream they’re

to your goal did that they dream they’re steps at you have to take so my first

steps at you have to take so my first

steps at you have to take so my first step was the low hanging through dealing

step was the low hanging through dealing

step was the low hanging through dealing with anybody who had content the next

with anybody who had content the next

with anybody who had content the next step was I wanted to reach out to

step was I wanted to reach out to

step was I wanted to reach out to somebody was a little more well-known

somebody was a little more well-known

somebody was a little more well-known not Donald Trump level yet but a little

not Donald Trump level yet but a little

not Donald Trump level yet but a little bit more well known and so I wanted to

bit more well known and so I wanted to

bit more well known and so I wanted to get guileless boxing Seth Godin and at

get guileless boxing Seth Godin and at

get guileless boxing Seth Godin and at the time they were big names in bloggers

the time they were big names in bloggers

the time they were big names in bloggers they have books that are highly

they have books that are highly

they have books that are highly successful you should read them i

successful you should read them i

successful you should read them i recommend them and so I started reaching

recommend them and so I started reaching

recommend them and so I started reaching out because I didn’t know what either

out because I didn’t know what either

out because I didn’t know what either though you know they weren’t they

though you know they weren’t they

though you know they weren’t they weren’t my best friends I didn’t know

weren’t my best friends I didn’t know

weren’t my best friends I didn’t know how to get in touch with them and I said

how to get in touch with them and I said

how to get in touch with them and I said asking my friends of it networking and

asking my friends of it networking and

asking my friends of it networking and it came across a guy who knew guy and a

it came across a guy who knew guy and a

it came across a guy who knew guy and a guy who knew guy and and he set up that

guy who knew guy and and he set up that

guy who knew guy and and he set up that introduction for me he was willing to

introduction for me he was willing to

introduction for me he was willing to introduce me the guy kawasaki chef

introduce me the guy kawasaki chef

introduce me the guy kawasaki chef golden I didn’t have a contact in to so

golden I didn’t have a contact in to so

golden I didn’t have a contact in to so I just reached out to him and I

I just reached out to him and I

I just reached out to him and I passionately let him know what I was

passionately let him know what I was

passionately let him know what I was doing and if there’s a way that we could

doing and if there’s a way that we could

doing and if there’s a way that we could start to deal together and both of them

start to deal together and both of them

start to deal together and both of them said yes so through my networking I got

said yes so through my networking I got

said yes so through my networking I got the guy and just threw a passionate

the guy and just threw a passionate

the guy and just threw a passionate email that the set both of them said yes

email that the set both of them said yes

email that the set both of them said yes and I started working away on using now

and I started working away on using now

and I started working away on using now their names to get into the next step

their names to get into the next step

their names to get into the next step and I knew their names and credibility

and I knew their names and credibility

and I knew their names and credibility to help me get Michael Gerber her of the

to help me get Michael Gerber her of the

to help me get Michael Gerber her of the email and Zig Ziglar and jack canfield

email and Zig Ziglar and jack canfield

email and Zig Ziglar and jack canfield and all these other bigger names and

and all these other bigger names and

and all these other bigger names and then I used their names to go and get

then I used their names to go and get

then I used their names to go and get Donald Trump and Trump was watching his

Donald Trump and Trump was watching his

Donald Trump and Trump was watching his Trump University which is a program to

Trump University which is a program to

Trump University which is a program to help entrepreneurs and was looking to

help entrepreneurs and was looking to

help entrepreneurs and was looking to you know have more headway into the

you know have more headway into the

you know have more headway into the small business space and I connected to

small business space and I connected to

small business space and I connected to him to chuckle University and they said

him to chuckle University and they said

him to chuckle University and they said yes and so it’s starting small but not

yes and so it’s starting small but not

yes and so it’s starting small but not staying small and building your step

staying small and building your step

staying small and building your step stop it started with whoever i could

stop it started with whoever i could

stop it started with whoever i could find writes the loaning you to customers

find writes the loaning you to customers

find writes the loaning you to customers then moving one step up to God Kawasaki

then moving one step up to God Kawasaki

then moving one step up to God Kawasaki and seth godin then moving one step up

and seth godin then moving one step up

and seth godin then moving one step up to getting jack canfield and Zig Ziglar

to getting jack canfield and Zig Ziglar

to getting jack canfield and Zig Ziglar and those guys and then finally going

and those guys and then finally going

and those guys and then finally going out there gone up shopping by the time I

out there gone up shopping by the time I

out there gone up shopping by the time I got the hand there was so much momentum

got the hand there was so much momentum

got the hand there was so much momentum so much traction built up and i used the

so much traction built up and i used the

so much traction built up and i used the names of everybody who was with me at

names of everybody who was with me at

names of everybody who was with me at the time that was the easy decision to

the time that was the easy decision to

the time that was the easy decision to say yes to so that’s how you start you

say yes to so that’s how you start you

say yes to so that’s how you start you start

start

start but you don’t stay small continue

but you don’t stay small continue

but you don’t stay small continue building step by step by step so you get

building step by step by step so you get

building step by step by step so you get to the big fish I have Antonio on the

to the big fish I have Antonio on the

to the big fish I have Antonio on the line Antonio where are you from and how

line Antonio where are you from and how

line Antonio where are you from and how can I help hey how are you I’m great man

can I help hey how are you I’m great man

can I help hey how are you I’m great man what’s up I’m from lufkin texas i have a

what’s up I’m from lufkin texas i have a

what’s up I’m from lufkin texas i have a brand that’s called just be you I just

brand that’s called just be you I just

brand that’s called just be you I just started it because I recently decided to

started it because I recently decided to

started it because I recently decided to come clean about a lot of things and

come clean about a lot of things and

come clean about a lot of things and just do you started from my childhood

just do you started from my childhood

just do you started from my childhood and the things I went through at the age

and the things I went through at the age

and the things I went through at the age of 12 and up to now to prison and this

of 12 and up to now to prison and this

of 12 and up to now to prison and this brand I’m trying to get it out I’m

brand I’m trying to get it out I’m

brand I’m trying to get it out I’m trying to get my story out there i’m

trying to get my story out there i’m

trying to get my story out there i’m trying to get people to notice me I have

trying to get people to notice me I have

trying to get people to notice me I have a fan page so far but it just seemed

a fan page so far but it just seemed

a fan page so far but it just seemed like it’s just the same you know this is

like it’s just the same you know this is

like it’s just the same you know this is not going as fast as I wanted to

not going as fast as I wanted to

not going as fast as I wanted to basically I have friends that support me

basically I have friends that support me

basically I have friends that support me I have faced a lot of Facebook friends

I have faced a lot of Facebook friends

I have faced a lot of Facebook friends that shares my story or whatever what

that shares my story or whatever what

that shares my story or whatever what happened and what was going on behind

happened and what was going on behind

happened and what was going on behind just be you I have no idea if I want to

just be you I have no idea if I want to

just be you I have no idea if I want to start a book or if I want to do clothing

start a book or if I want to do clothing

start a book or if I want to do clothing I don’t know how I go about it but

I don’t know how I go about it but

I don’t know how I go about it but that’s what I really just need the

that’s what I really just need the

that’s what I really just need the advice on how to get it out there how to

advice on how to get it out there how to

advice on how to get it out there how to get myself horn because it’s just seem

get myself horn because it’s just seem

get myself horn because it’s just seem like it’s in the same spot I love it so

like it’s in the same spot I love it so

like it’s in the same spot I love it so the message is clear easy just for you

the message is clear easy just for you

the message is clear easy just for you something people can relate to how you

something people can relate to how you

something people can relate to how you want to be able to introduce that next

want to be able to introduce that next

want to be able to introduce that next is by quickly and library on that right

is by quickly and library on that right

is by quickly and library on that right so why is it so important that you have

so why is it so important that you have

so why is it so important that you have to just be you because I know it’s a lot

to just be you because I know it’s a lot

to just be you because I know it’s a lot of people out there they can relate to

of people out there they can relate to

of people out there they can relate to my life story and what I’ve been through

my life story and what I’ve been through

my life story and what I’ve been through and to be like it’s just okay to be you

and to be like it’s just okay to be you

and to be like it’s just okay to be you it’s okay to open up its ok to say I’ve

it’s okay to open up its ok to say I’ve

it’s okay to open up its ok to say I’ve been hurt and not in that way about what

been hurt and not in that way about what

been hurt and not in that way about what anybody else has to say just be you and

anybody else has to say just be you and

anybody else has to say just be you and this is something that I feel like a lot

this is something that I feel like a lot

this is something that I feel like a lot of people can relate to you know but I

of people can relate to you know but I

of people can relate to you know but I can’t get it to everyone who could

can’t get it to everyone who could

can’t get it to everyone who could without you know no supporting anything

without you know no supporting anything

without you know no supporting anything so I really just stuck in a vine on

so I really just stuck in a vine on

so I really just stuck in a vine on where to go with this who is your

where to go with this who is your

where to go with this who is your audience is that kids is this young

audience is that kids is this young

audience is that kids is this young ounces and everybody it’s honestly it’s

ounces and everybody it’s honestly it’s

ounces and everybody it’s honestly it’s everyone but I’m really more so looking

everyone but I’m really more so looking

everyone but I’m really more so looking at the young the

at the young the

at the young the up to the middle age because they can

up to the middle age because they can

up to the middle age because they can relate to you know of course with all

relate to you know of course with all

relate to you know of course with all the armed police brutality child abuse

the armed police brutality child abuse

the armed police brutality child abuse central molestation um and also with me

central molestation um and also with me

central molestation um and also with me being again male you know in the stuff

being again male you know in the stuff

being again male you know in the stuff that I went through as trying to get

that I went through as trying to get

that I went through as trying to get just view up to with that you know

just view up to with that you know

just view up to with that you know people just tend to be down because of

people just tend to be down because of

people just tend to be down because of my sexual orientation you know it’s a

my sexual orientation you know it’s a

my sexual orientation you know it’s a lot behind the story behind my story

lot behind the story behind my story

lot behind the story behind my story about what I went through just as far to

about what I went through just as far to

about what I went through just as far to just be you but it is I came to get to

just be you but it is I came to get to

just be you but it is I came to get to the if I can’t seem to just get

the if I can’t seem to just get

the if I can’t seem to just get everybody to share my story I can’t you

everybody to share my story I can’t you

everybody to share my story I can’t you just get to everybody just notice me but

just get to everybody just notice me but

just get to everybody just notice me but I need help on who you know what was

I need help on who you know what was

I need help on who you know what was best massage social media like I mean

best massage social media like I mean

best massage social media like I mean what i would recommend doing it’s

what i would recommend doing it’s

what i would recommend doing it’s starting to leverage other people’s

starting to leverage other people’s

starting to leverage other people’s brands here okay so you’re trying to

brands here okay so you’re trying to

brands here okay so you’re trying to build up your own brains just like i did

build up your own brains just like i did

build up your own brains just like i did when i started associating with Donald

when i started associating with Donald

when i started associating with Donald Trump and jack canfield and Ziggler

Trump and jack canfield and Ziggler

Trump and jack canfield and Ziggler Ziggler built up my friend and the

Ziggler built up my friend and the

Ziggler built up my friend and the people started paying attention so the

people started paying attention so the

people started paying attention so the same thing can happen with you in the

same thing can happen with you in the

same thing can happen with you in the field of of just being you and what i

field of of just being you and what i

field of of just being you and what i would do is pick one medium if it’s

would do is pick one medium if it’s

would do is pick one medium if it’s whatever whatever you feel more natural

whatever whatever you feel more natural

whatever whatever you feel more natural at if you like writing then do a blog if

at if you like writing then do a blog if

at if you like writing then do a blog if you like doing the radio if you like

you like doing the radio if you like

you like doing the radio if you like speaking and do a podcast or radio show

speaking and do a podcast or radio show

speaking and do a podcast or radio show if you like doing videos and do a

if you like doing videos and do a

if you like doing videos and do a YouTube channel and I start reaching out

YouTube channel and I start reaching out

YouTube channel and I start reaching out to people who you know have gone through

to people who you know have gone through

to people who you know have gone through some of the same stuff that you’ve done

some of the same stuff that you’ve done

some of the same stuff that you’ve done so so if coming as a cloud and saying

so so if coming as a cloud and saying

so so if coming as a cloud and saying hey I’m gay with a big thing for you

hey I’m gay with a big thing for you

hey I’m gay with a big thing for you then find other people who are more

then find other people who are more

then find other people who are more established or more well-known and more

established or more well-known and more

established or more well-known and more recognized and and interview them and

recognized and and interview them and

recognized and and interview them and you can share part of your story but

you can share part of your story but

you can share part of your story but also you’re bringing on these people to

also you’re bringing on these people to

also you’re bringing on these people to come on board and help you so here’s an

come on board and help you so here’s an

come on board and help you so here’s an example on writing the book called one

example on writing the book called one

example on writing the book called one word and interviewing people like the

word and interviewing people like the

word and interviewing people like the town there’s an honest which is

town there’s an honest which is

town there’s an honest which is Christopher Gavigan and Jessica Alba and

Christopher Gavigan and Jessica Alba and

Christopher Gavigan and Jessica Alba and so telling their story helps build up

so telling their story helps build up

so telling their story helps build up leverage around the concept of one word

leverage around the concept of one word

leverage around the concept of one word in the book on Monday so who can you

in the book on Monday so who can you

in the book on Monday so who can you interview who’s gone through and there’s

interview who’s gone through and there’s

interview who’s gone through and there’s so many people right who’ve gone through

so many people right who’ve gone through

so many people right who’ve gone through this child abuse and

this child abuse and

this child abuse and coming on the closet and being gay and

coming on the closet and being gay and

coming on the closet and being gay and you know being made fun of and all of

you know being made fun of and all of

you know being made fun of and all of that everybody has a store that they can

that everybody has a store that they can

that everybody has a store that they can share that can relate to it and to

share that can relate to it and to

share that can relate to it and to creating an ongoing media channel

creating an ongoing media channel

creating an ongoing media channel whether it’s like blog podcast lat radio

whether it’s like blog podcast lat radio

whether it’s like blog podcast lat radio show or YouTube video interview channel

show or YouTube video interview channel

show or YouTube video interview channel that you can leverage their names and

that you can leverage their names and

that you can leverage their names and their stories but at the same time build

their stories but at the same time build

their stories but at the same time build up your brand in the process okay I

up your brand in the process okay I

up your brand in the process okay I didn’t even look at it I finished that

didn’t even look at it I finished that

didn’t even look at it I finished that sounds like a plan okay sue somebody

sounds like a plan okay sue somebody

sounds like a plan okay sue somebody retires come out of the closet who who’s

retires come out of the closet who who’s

retires come out of the closet who who’s somebody look up to and like he did it

somebody look up to and like he did it

somebody look up to and like he did it like the Tim Cook from apple just came

like the Tim Cook from apple just came

like the Tim Cook from apple just came out of the closet that he was gay right

out of the closet that he was gay right

out of the closet that he was gay right the president of that right yeah not to

the president of that right yeah not to

the president of that right yeah not to be a goal of yours to go an interview

be a goal of yours to go an interview

be a goal of yours to go an interview Jim cook right I maybe it starts smaller

Jim cook right I maybe it starts smaller

Jim cook right I maybe it starts smaller and you build up your your platform but

and you build up your your platform but

and you build up your your platform but if it can cook or if it’s you know Magic

if it can cook or if it’s you know Magic

if it can cook or if it’s you know Magic Johnson coming out and saying he had

Johnson coming out and saying he had

Johnson coming out and saying he had AIDS back in the day or HIV back in the

AIDS back in the day or HIV back in the

AIDS back in the day or HIV back in the day I’m using them to help you build up

day I’m using them to help you build up

day I’m using them to help you build up credibility and then when they when the

credibility and then when they when the

credibility and then when they when the interview launches they’re probably

interview launches they’re probably

interview launches they’re probably going to help spread the message right

going to help spread the message right

going to help spread the message right if somebody has a following on social

if somebody has a following on social

if somebody has a following on social media said hey I was just interviewed by

media said hey I was just interviewed by

media said hey I was just interviewed by Antonio go check out this podcast as its

Antonio go check out this podcast as its

Antonio go check out this podcast as its YouTube video so really how the road I

YouTube video so really how the road I

YouTube video so really how the road I brand okay okay okay okay um about 10

brand okay okay okay okay um about 10

brand okay okay okay okay um about 10 with that do you think that the the fan

with that do you think that the the fan

with that do you think that the the fan base pays I got going on I need to keep

base pays I got going on I need to keep

base pays I got going on I need to keep that up also I’m I would focus your

that up also I’m I would focus your

that up also I’m I would focus your efforts picked it one thing that you

efforts picked it one thing that you

efforts picked it one thing that you love doing most and pour all your

love doing most and pour all your

love doing most and pour all your passion into it and journey we gotta go

passion into it and journey we gotta go

passion into it and journey we gotta go thank you so much for calling good luck

thank you so much for calling good luck

thank you so much for calling good luck to me posted with your program welcome

to me posted with your program welcome

to me posted with your program welcome back to heaven Carmichael show I believe

back to heaven Carmichael show I believe

back to heaven Carmichael show I believe in entrepreneurs and today we are

in entrepreneurs and today we are

in entrepreneurs and today we are talking about how to land bigger clients

talking about how to land bigger clients

talking about how to land bigger clients so I want to share with you my 4-step

so I want to share with you my 4-step

so I want to share with you my 4-step process okay number one you have to know

process okay number one you have to know

process okay number one you have to know who you want this is really important

who you want this is really important

who you want this is really important you can’t just be any I want to have

you can’t just be any I want to have

you can’t just be any I want to have bigger clients you gotta have a target

bigger clients you gotta have a target

bigger clients you gotta have a target you got to know who you want to go after

you got to know who you want to go after

you got to know who you want to go after for me it was Donald chump right I

for me it was Donald chump right I

for me it was Donald chump right I wanted Donald Trump to be involved in my

wanted Donald Trump to be involved in my

wanted Donald Trump to be involved in my business somehow that was my goal and I

business somehow that was my goal and I

business somehow that was my goal and I work towards it so you got to know who

work towards it so you got to know who

work towards it so you got to know who you want number two if you can’t get

you want number two if you can’t get

you want number two if you can’t get that works right now aim lower it’s okay

that works right now aim lower it’s okay

that works right now aim lower it’s okay you got to start smaller build momentum

you got to start smaller build momentum

you got to start smaller build momentum go step by

go step by

go step by by step continue pulling people sweaters

by step continue pulling people sweaters

by step continue pulling people sweaters to get higher up the ladder that’s how

to get higher up the ladder that’s how

to get higher up the ladder that’s how you do it but just don’t stay small so

you do it but just don’t stay small so

you do it but just don’t stay small so many people have this big goal and then

many people have this big goal and then

many people have this big goal and then they start small I may just keep staying

they start small I may just keep staying

they start small I may just keep staying small and they don’t take the next step

small and they don’t take the next step

small and they don’t take the next step up you mean I both can smell the Trump

up you mean I both can smell the Trump

up you mean I both can smell the Trump but you go small to medium to large to

but you go small to medium to large to

but you go small to medium to large to extra-large the trunk right you got to

extra-large the trunk right you got to

extra-large the trunk right you got to go through that process number three

go through that process number three

go through that process number three when you make that list of people you

when you make that list of people you

when you make that list of people you want to reach out to start reaching out

want to reach out to start reaching out

want to reach out to start reaching out right reach out to them connect to them

right reach out to them connect to them

right reach out to them connect to them let them know what you’re up to let them

let them know what you’re up to let them

let them know what you’re up to let them know where you are let them know how you

know where you are let them know how you

know where you are let them know how you can help them and number four keep

can help them and number four keep

can help them and number four keep reaching out and this is a key because

reaching out and this is a key because

reaching out and this is a key because most of the time it doesn’t happen on

most of the time it doesn’t happen on

most of the time it doesn’t happen on the first time you got to follow up you

the first time you got to follow up you

the first time you got to follow up you got to stay in touch you got to keep

got to stay in touch you got to keep

got to stay in touch you got to keep providing values and it’s not just

providing values and it’s not just

providing values and it’s not just calling up and saying hey you ready to

calling up and saying hey you ready to

calling up and saying hey you ready to buy something yet you ready to do

buy something yet you ready to do

buy something yet you ready to do something together you should be a known

something together you should be a known

something together you should be a known quantity okay you want to be following

quantity okay you want to be following

quantity okay you want to be following them on Twitter and comment on their

them on Twitter and comment on their

them on Twitter and comment on their stuff you want to be connecting with

stuff you want to be connecting with

stuff you want to be connecting with them on youtube and google+ and linkedin

them on youtube and google+ and linkedin

them on youtube and google+ and linkedin wherever they are when they’re

wherever they are when they’re

wherever they are when they’re commenting and sharing stuff you want to

commenting and sharing stuff you want to

commenting and sharing stuff you want to be there they should know who you are

be there they should know who you are

be there they should know who you are you see something in the media and the

you see something in the media and the

you see something in the media and the news an article a story a book that you

news an article a story a book that you

news an article a story a book that you think could help them you fire that off

think could help them you fire that off

think could help them you fire that off to them we want to try to add value so

to them we want to try to add value so

to them we want to try to add value so that when you are top of mind with them

that when you are top of mind with them

that when you are top of mind with them when they have a need they’re going to

when they have a need they’re going to

when they have a need they’re going to go to you first okay that supports that

go to you first okay that supports that

go to you first okay that supports that process use it leverage it start to grow

process use it leverage it start to grow

process use it leverage it start to grow your business again bigger deal number

your business again bigger deal number

your business again bigger deal number one nobody want number to a more if you

one nobody want number to a more if you

one nobody want number to a more if you have to the retreat reach out number

have to the retreat reach out number

have to the retreat reach out number four keep reaching out I got time for

four keep reaching out I got time for

four keep reaching out I got time for one last caller we’re going to the lines

one last caller we’re going to the lines

one last caller we’re going to the lines I’ve got Joey on the line Joey where are

I’ve got Joey on the line Joey where are

I’ve got Joey on the line Joey where are you from and how can I help from Long

you from and how can I help from Long

you from and how can I help from Long Island New York how you doing well you

Island New York how you doing well you

Island New York how you doing well you just answered a lot of my questions

just answered a lot of my questions

just answered a lot of my questions right there but what a basically I am is

right there but what a basically I am is

right there but what a basically I am is I’m a professional DJ comedian and a

I’m a professional DJ comedian and a

I’m a professional DJ comedian and a singer so what I was trying to do was

singer so what I was trying to do was

singer so what I was trying to do was try to be different and I wanted to

try to be different and I wanted to

try to be different and I wanted to package all my talents into a go one man

package all my talents into a go one man

package all my talents into a go one man show type of thing I started a website

show type of thing I started a website

show type of thing I started a website about a year ago and I’m getting you

about a year ago and I’m getting you

about a year ago and I’m getting you know i’m surprised i’m only getting

know i’m surprised i’m only getting

know i’m surprised i’m only getting maybe three or four gigs in that

maybe three or four gigs in that

maybe three or four gigs in that direction and in a great party is great

direction and in a great party is great

direction and in a great party is great to wear you know everything i’m shooting

to wear you know everything i’m shooting

to wear you know everything i’m shooting for us is working out rates just a

for us is working out rates just a

for us is working out rates just a matter of like you said targeting

matter of like you said targeting

matter of like you said targeting finding out where i get those type of

finding out where i get those type of

finding out where i get those type of clients

clients

clients facebook in it and twitter in it and all

facebook in it and twitter in it and all

facebook in it and twitter in it and all that type of stuff but I’m even thinking

that type of stuff but I’m even thinking

that type of stuff but I’m even thinking about me to get a local commercial here

about me to get a local commercial here

about me to get a local commercial here on Long Island to promote myself are you

on Long Island to promote myself are you

on Long Island to promote myself are you doing weddings or corporate advisor who

doing weddings or corporate advisor who

doing weddings or corporate advisor who is your audience well no weddings and

is your audience well no weddings and

is your audience well no weddings and stuff like that I keep separate but what

stuff like that I keep separate but what

stuff like that I keep separate but what I’m doing corporate events or if I’m

I’m doing corporate events or if I’m

I’m doing corporate events or if I’m doing up birthday parties stuff like

doing up birthday parties stuff like

doing up birthday parties stuff like that more entertainment the better you

that more entertainment the better you

that more entertainment the better you know so I’m trying to take all my

know so I’m trying to take all my

know so I’m trying to take all my talents together and put them into one

talents together and put them into one

talents together and put them into one party and it’s a great idea and it works

party and it’s a great idea and it works

party and it’s a great idea and it works great when it happens and I really have

great when it happens and I really have

great when it happens and I really have to sell the idea but it’s not catching

to sell the idea but it’s not catching

to sell the idea but it’s not catching on you know I’ve been doing it for about

on you know I’ve been doing it for about

on you know I’ve been doing it for about a year now and like I said I like four

a year now and like I said I like four

a year now and like I said I like four or five parties in the last year I get

or five parties in the last year I get

or five parties in the last year I get regular party so I’ll get regular

regular party so I’ll get regular

regular party so I’ll get regular weddings and sweet 16 and stuff like

weddings and sweet 16 and stuff like

weddings and sweet 16 and stuff like that but I’m right a lot of market this

that but I’m right a lot of market this

that but I’m right a lot of market this you know I mean it’s like people don’t

you know I mean it’s like people don’t

you know I mean it’s like people don’t trust it because it’s new it’s different

trust it because it’s new it’s different

trust it because it’s new it’s different so my trust me it’s good so yeah I think

so my trust me it’s good so yeah I think

so my trust me it’s good so yeah I think if you’re looking at social media your

if you’re looking at social media your

if you’re looking at social media your best bet is going to be YouTube like I

best bet is going to be YouTube like I

best bet is going to be YouTube like I want to see this because as you’re

want to see this because as you’re

want to see this because as you’re grinding it you’re saying what a

grinding it you’re saying what a

grinding it you’re saying what a comedian singer like i wanna i want to

comedian singer like i wanna i want to

comedian singer like i wanna i want to see your show i I have a huge i have a

see your show i I have a huge i have a

see your show i I have a huge i have a website and i have videos on the website

website and i have videos on the website

website and i have videos on the website but um I can’t stay in traffic into the

but um I can’t stay in traffic into the

but um I can’t stay in traffic into the website I’m you know it you know I have

website I’m you know it you know I have

website I’m you know it you know I have business cards word of mouth it’s just

business cards word of mouth it’s just

business cards word of mouth it’s just uh I don’t know people are spending

uh I don’t know people are spending

uh I don’t know people are spending extra money a lot two histories I can’t

extra money a lot two histories I can’t

extra money a lot two histories I can’t figure out why something like that one

figure out why something like that one

figure out why something like that one catch on I know I would want it at my

catch on I know I would want it at my

catch on I know I would want it at my part yeah so the two things that would

part yeah so the two things that would

part yeah so the two things that would look at is one so it’s great to have

look at is one so it’s great to have

look at is one so it’s great to have video i put a few more videos up there

video i put a few more videos up there

video i put a few more videos up there beyond just one show and see if you can

beyond just one show and see if you can

beyond just one show and see if you can have somebody I don’t help professional

have somebody I don’t help professional

have somebody I don’t help professional that first video is but it’s actually be

that first video is but it’s actually be

that first video is but it’s actually be doing corporate they want to see

doing corporate they want to see

doing corporate they want to see professional so it might be worth having

professional so it might be worth having

professional so it might be worth having helped to record one live show that’s

helped to record one live show that’s

helped to record one live show that’s done professionally because it’s a good

done professionally because it’s a good

done professionally because it’s a good reflection on your brand so i would i

reflection on your brand so i would i

reflection on your brand so i would i would also see if I can get some

would also see if I can get some

would also see if I can get some testimonials on video so those four

testimonials on video so those four

testimonials on video so those four fires that you did can you go back to

fires that you did can you go back to

fires that you did can you go back to some of the people in the audience and

some of the people in the audience and

some of the people in the audience and say then that Joey is crazy you made our

say then that Joey is crazy you made our

say then that Joey is crazy you made our event like the talk of the town was

event like the talk of the town was

event like the talk of the town was awesome you got to get him on board just

awesome you got to get him on board just

awesome you got to get him on board just so that you said like its new people are

so that you said like its new people are

so that you said like its new people are scared they are fearful they don’t want

scared they are fearful they don’t want

scared they are fearful they don’t want to make the company look bad

to make the company look bad

to make the company look bad so having somebody come on and say how

so having somebody come on and say how

so having somebody come on and say how great you were can add a lot of value

great you were can add a lot of value

great you were can add a lot of value and reduce the risk for new people

and reduce the risk for new people

and reduce the risk for new people coming on board right now it’s the risk

coming on board right now it’s the risk

coming on board right now it’s the risk if the trust factor they’ll trust it

if the trust factor they’ll trust it

if the trust factor they’ll trust it it’s like I tell about it down the warp

it’s like I tell about it down the warp

it’s like I tell about it down the warp 6 great a lot of fun and now we’ll just

6 great a lot of fun and now we’ll just

6 great a lot of fun and now we’ll just stick with the music you like I you know

stick with the music you like I you know

stick with the music you like I you know we’re going to go I got to force some

we’re going to go I got to force some

we’re going to go I got to force some somebody to change the other thoughts

somebody to change the other thoughts

somebody to change the other thoughts but us right and it’s great that it’s a

but us right and it’s great that it’s a

but us right and it’s great that it’s a medical like you really have a business

medical like you really have a business

medical like you really have a business and this is an upsell for them but i

and this is an upsell for them but i

and this is an upsell for them but i would get those two halves of the manual

would get those two halves of the manual

would get those two halves of the manual videos no i don’t know i could probably

videos no i don’t know i could probably

videos no i don’t know i could probably go back like you said go see the people

go back like you said go see the people

go back like you said go see the people that i did the parties for were very

that i did the parties for were very

that i did the parties for were very happy it’d be no problem to contact them

happy it’d be no problem to contact them

happy it’d be no problem to contact them some kind of testimonial yeah I mean

some kind of testimonial yeah I mean

some kind of testimonial yeah I mean that’s a huge risk reduction because of

that’s a huge risk reduction because of

that’s a huge risk reduction because of course you’re going to see how great

course you’re going to see how great

course you’re going to see how great everything is right no no I’m snoring

everything is right no no I’m snoring

everything is right no no I’m snoring would say oh this is you know I’m just

would say oh this is you know I’m just

would say oh this is you know I’m just I’m just trying to upsell you and take

I’m just trying to upsell you and take

I’m just trying to upsell you and take your money you know but having customers

your money you know but having customers

your money you know but having customers glow about how great you were as a lot

glow about how great you were as a lot

glow about how great you were as a lot of value and really reduces my risk if

of value and really reduces my risk if

of value and really reduces my risk if I’m on the fence and I see a great

I’m on the fence and I see a great

I’m on the fence and I see a great customer testimony or a couple of them

customer testimony or a couple of them

customer testimony or a couple of them from like a company I might recognize

from like a company I might recognize

from like a company I might recognize like I want to do it for those guys and

like I want to do it for those guys and

like I want to do it for those guys and I’m really happy okay let’s try it um

I’m really happy okay let’s try it um

I’m really happy okay let’s try it um the other thought I had was I would

the other thought I had was I would

the other thought I had was I would start working with event organizers

start working with event organizers

start working with event organizers event planners instead of trying to go

event planners instead of trying to go

event planners instead of trying to go direct to the corporate because a lot of

direct to the corporate because a lot of

direct to the corporate because a lot of the bigger corporate they don’t do their

the bigger corporate they don’t do their

the bigger corporate they don’t do their own stuff they hire event planners to

own stuff they hire event planners to

own stuff they hire event planners to manage it for them and okay and if a

manage it for them and okay and if a

manage it for them and okay and if a good event planner will have multiple

good event planner will have multiple

good event planner will have multiple clients instead of trying to sell one

clients instead of trying to sell one

clients instead of trying to sell one client at a time if you get an event

client at a time if you get an event

client at a time if you get an event planner to love what you’re doing he or

planner to love what you’re doing he or

planner to love what you’re doing he or she can sell you into tons of dates

she can sell you into tons of dates

she can sell you into tons of dates dozens of the hundreds of gigs because I

dozens of the hundreds of gigs because I

dozens of the hundreds of gigs because I that’s their job right so you could say

that’s their job right so you could say

that’s their job right so you could say okay well here’s a you know he can join

okay well here’s a you know he can join

okay well here’s a you know he can join him give you the music but if you want

him give you the music but if you want

him give you the music but if you want something extra special you know here’s

something extra special you know here’s

something extra special you know here’s the video and use decimals to back it up

the video and use decimals to back it up

the video and use decimals to back it up maybe you should consider this complete

maybe you should consider this complete

maybe you should consider this complete package right right right yeah that’s

package right right right yeah that’s

package right right right yeah that’s what like always like Oh Liz to be

what like always like Oh Liz to be

what like always like Oh Liz to be different to do something I try to get

different to do something I try to get

different to do something I try to get you so I wasn’t I’d make a list of all

you so I wasn’t I’d make a list of all

you so I wasn’t I’d make a list of all those people who are event planners in

those people who are event planners in

those people who are event planners in the area you get way better returns out

the area you get way better returns out

the area you get way better returns out of that and taking out a commercial on a

of that and taking out a commercial on a

of that and taking out a commercial on a radio station okay and also branded

radio station okay and also branded

radio station okay and also branded something like call it something that i

something like call it something that i

something like call it something that i will remember you know right

will remember you know right

will remember you know right like I don’t know what you’re going to

like I don’t know what you’re going to

like I don’t know what you’re going to call but something that that’s memorable

call but something that that’s memorable

call but something that that’s memorable that that sticks in my head is something

that that sticks in my head is something

that that sticks in my head is something extra special right right Joey good luck

extra special right right Joey good luck

extra special right right Joey good luck yep ok thank you that thank you awesome

yep ok thank you that thank you awesome

yep ok thank you that thank you awesome thanks for calling in hey we’re at the

thanks for calling in hey we’re at the

thanks for calling in hey we’re at the end of another hour it’s crazy how time

end of another hour it’s crazy how time

end of another hour it’s crazy how time flies I want to thank my producers Josh

flies I want to thank my producers Josh

flies I want to thank my producers Josh and Christy it was Christie’s first show

and Christy it was Christie’s first show

and Christy it was Christie’s first show she hit out of the park thank you so

she hit out of the park thank you so

she hit out of the park thank you so much crispy for the great show when I

much crispy for the great show when I

much crispy for the great show when I come back I’m going to be on in two

come back I’m going to be on in two

come back I’m going to be on in two weeks again talking more strategies that

weeks again talking more strategies that

weeks again talking more strategies that help you grow your business until then

help you grow your business until then

help you grow your business until then keep strong keeps grinding it about keep

keep strong keeps grinding it about keep

keep strong keeps grinding it about keep hustling and keep believing thanks fans

hustling and keep believing thanks fans

hustling and keep believing thanks fans have a great couple weeks

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