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Customer Service – How to retain existing customers and persuade new ones – Ask Evan


hi I’m Evan Carmichael welcome to

hi I’m Evan Carmichael welcome to another edition of ask Evan in today’s

another edition of ask Evan in today’s

another edition of ask Evan in today’s episode I’m going to answer a question

episode I’m going to answer a question

episode I’m going to answer a question from one of my newsletter readers

from one of my newsletter readers

from one of my newsletter readers Clementina she’s the marketing manager

Clementina she’s the marketing manager

Clementina she’s the marketing manager at a printing company and she’s pretty

at a printing company and she’s pretty

at a printing company and she’s pretty new in her job and she’s finding that

new in her job and she’s finding that

new in her job and she’s finding that people are coming in and asking for

people are coming in and asking for

people are coming in and asking for quotes for her services but they aren’t

quotes for her services but they aren’t

quotes for her services but they aren’t following through them becoming

following through them becoming

following through them becoming customers there she is wondering what my

customers there she is wondering what my

customers there she is wondering what my advice would be and how she can market

advice would be and how she can market

advice would be and how she can market the business more effectively so

the business more effectively so

the business more effectively so Clementina the printing business is

Clementina the printing business is

Clementina the printing business is cutthroat it’s almost a race to the

cutthroat it’s almost a race to the

cutthroat it’s almost a race to the bottom where people are discounting the

bottom where people are discounting the

bottom where people are discounting the prices just to get the business and like

prices just to get the business and like

prices just to get the business and like any entrepreneur you don’t want to

any entrepreneur you don’t want to

any entrepreneur you don’t want to compete on price it’s one of the hardest

compete on price it’s one of the hardest

compete on price it’s one of the hardest things to maintain as a competitive

things to maintain as a competitive

things to maintain as a competitive advantage you want to try to find

advantage you want to try to find

advantage you want to try to find something else that can differentiate

something else that can differentiate

something else that can differentiate yourself so the first thing I would do

yourself so the first thing I would do

yourself so the first thing I would do for you if I was in your business is

for you if I was in your business is

for you if I was in your business is that come up with my unique value

that come up with my unique value

that come up with my unique value proposition so basically what this will

proposition so basically what this will

proposition so basically what this will answer is what makes you different from

answer is what makes you different from

answer is what makes you different from all the other printing companies and it

all the other printing companies and it

all the other printing companies and it could be your service it could be your

could be your service it could be your

could be your service it could be your target a specific type of customer so

target a specific type of customer so

target a specific type of customer so manufacturer and their lawyers or

manufacturer and their lawyers or

manufacturer and their lawyers or whatever it is it could be special

whatever it is it could be special

whatever it is it could be special features that you add to your printing

features that you add to your printing

features that you add to your printing service that other people don’t add but

service that other people don’t add but

service that other people don’t add but you basically need to find some way to

you basically need to find some way to

you basically need to find some way to stand out that’s different from all the

stand out that’s different from all the

stand out that’s different from all the other printing companies and when you

other printing companies and when you

other printing companies and when you introduce yourself you put that as part

introduce yourself you put that as part

introduce yourself you put that as part of your statement so instead of writing

of your statement so instead of writing

of your statement so instead of writing an email saying you know we’re part of a

an email saying you know we’re part of a

an email saying you know we’re part of a printing company you say I’m the

printing company you say I’m the

printing company you say I’m the printing company that does XYZ for

printing company that does XYZ for

printing company that does XYZ for deceptive clients so you want to make

deceptive clients so you want to make

deceptive clients so you want to make sure that you can identify your target

sure that you can identify your target

sure that you can identify your target customer and you’ve done a good job

customer and you’ve done a good job

customer and you’ve done a good job identifying why you’re different than

identifying why you’re different than

identifying why you’re different than everybody else so a quick example for me

everybody else so a quick example for me

everybody else so a quick example for me I do a lot of work with brands who are

I do a lot of work with brands who are

I do a lot of work with brands who are trying to target entrepreneurs and

trying to target entrepreneurs and

trying to target entrepreneurs and everybody on my website is an

everybody on my website is an

everybody on my website is an entrepreneur and I get approached all

entrepreneur and I get approached all

entrepreneur and I get approached all the time from different companies who

the time from different companies who

the time from different companies who want to promote their products or

want to promote their products or

want to promote their products or services and if it’s not related to

services and if it’s not related to

services and if it’s not related to entrepreneurship I can’t really help and

entrepreneurship I can’t really help and

entrepreneurship I can’t really help and I tell them that and there’s you know

I tell them that and there’s you know

I tell them that and there’s you know huge markets open for me potentially to

huge markets open for me potentially to

huge markets open for me potentially to promote other things and talk about

promote other things and talk about

promote other things and talk about other things but I really care about

other things but I really care about

other things but I really care about entrepreneurs and that’s what I really

entrepreneurs and that’s what I really

entrepreneurs and that’s what I really love doing and that’s what my website my

love doing and that’s what my website my

love doing and that’s what my website my business is geared towards so I turn

business is geared towards so I turn

business is geared towards so I turn away business that might be lucrative

away business that might be lucrative

away business that might be lucrative because it’s not really my target market

because it’s not really my target market

because it’s not really my target market but then when somebody is interested in

but then when somebody is interested in

but then when somebody is interested in selling to entrepreneurs are working

selling to entrepreneurs are working

selling to entrepreneurs are working with on

with on

with on where’s I’m able to help them and I’m

where’s I’m able to help them and I’m

where’s I’m able to help them and I’m able to check your premium not just a

able to check your premium not just a

able to check your premium not just a regular price but a premium because

regular price but a premium because

regular price but a premium because that’s what I focus on that’s what I’m

that’s what I focus on that’s what I’m

that’s what I focus on that’s what I’m really good at so the same thing for

really good at so the same thing for

really good at so the same thing for your business what are you really good

your business what are you really good

your business what are you really good at who can you really help and how can

at who can you really help and how can

at who can you really help and how can you stand out from everybody else and go

you stand out from everybody else and go

you stand out from everybody else and go after specific clients who can really

after specific clients who can really

after specific clients who can really value those services so not everybody in

value those services so not everybody in

value those services so not everybody in the business who wants printing is gonna

the business who wants printing is gonna

the business who wants printing is gonna want service a lot of people are just

want service a lot of people are just

want service a lot of people are just looking for the lowest price and you

looking for the lowest price and you

looking for the lowest price and you don’t want those customers you want

don’t want those customers you want

don’t want those customers you want identify the guys who value service and

identify the guys who value service and

identify the guys who value service and who really value the expertise that you

who really value the expertise that you

who really value the expertise that you bring to the table

bring to the table

bring to the table and oh assuming that you have some

and oh assuming that you have some

and oh assuming that you have some special expertise and you are focus on

special expertise and you are focus on

special expertise and you are focus on service so you want to really define

service so you want to really define

service so you want to really define that so figure that out with your unique

that so figure that out with your unique

that so figure that out with your unique value proposition and then only go out

value proposition and then only go out

value proposition and then only go out to the clients and customers who fit the

to the clients and customers who fit the

to the clients and customers who fit the mold of the ideal client that you’re

mold of the ideal client that you’re

mold of the ideal client that you’re trying to chase okay you mentioned that

trying to chase okay you mentioned that

trying to chase okay you mentioned that a lot of people were then asking for

a lot of people were then asking for

a lot of people were then asking for quotes and weren’t following through so

quotes and weren’t following through so

quotes and weren’t following through so the next thing I would do and this would

the next thing I would do and this would

the next thing I would do and this would be me if it was my business and I do

be me if it was my business and I do

be me if it was my business and I do this in my own business

this in my own business

this in my own business I don’t just quote people so if somebody

I don’t just quote people so if somebody

I don’t just quote people so if somebody asks for a quote I don’t just give it

asks for a quote I don’t just give it

asks for a quote I don’t just give it give them a quote on the phone or by

give them a quote on the phone or by

give them a quote on the phone or by email it’s important for me that I

email it’s important for me that I

email it’s important for me that I understand the needs of my clients and

understand the needs of my clients and

understand the needs of my clients and that I’m working with them so I’ll

that I’m working with them so I’ll

that I’m working with them so I’ll always at least have a phone call if

always at least have a phone call if

always at least have a phone call if they’re not based here in Toronto where

they’re not based here in Toronto where

they’re not based here in Toronto where I’m from but I’ll usually try to set up

I’m from but I’ll usually try to set up

I’m from but I’ll usually try to set up a meeting and at the point of that

a meeting and at the point of that

a meeting and at the point of that meeting is to understand why they’re

meeting is to understand why they’re

meeting is to understand why they’re interested in working with me what their

interested in working with me what their

interested in working with me what their goals are what they want to achieve by

goals are what they want to achieve by

goals are what they want to achieve by working with me and it builds a

working with me and it builds a

working with me and it builds a relationship with them and you want to

relationship with them and you want to

relationship with them and you want to do the same thing so I would approach my

do the same thing so I would approach my

do the same thing so I would approach my clients people who are interested in

clients people who are interested in

clients people who are interested in potentially use my printing services and

potentially use my printing services and

potentially use my printing services and instead of just offering a quote I tried

instead of just offering a quote I tried

instead of just offering a quote I tried to set up a meeting to talk to them

to set up a meeting to talk to them

to set up a meeting to talk to them about what the challenges are why

about what the challenges are why

about what the challenges are why they’re trying to hire us and how we

they’re trying to hire us and how we

they’re trying to hire us and how we might be able to help them and I get an

might be able to help them and I get an

might be able to help them and I get an understanding of if I can help them and

understanding of if I can help them and

understanding of if I can help them and how it can help them and it builds that

how it can help them and it builds that

how it can help them and it builds that trust and it’s more likely that they’re

trust and it’s more likely that they’re

trust and it’s more likely that they’re gonna want to work with me if they find

gonna want to work with me if they find

gonna want to work with me if they find that I’m professional I care about their

that I’m professional I care about their

that I’m professional I care about their needs

needs

needs I’m responsive and I took the time to

I’m responsive and I took the time to

I’m responsive and I took the time to meet with them now most people you’re

meet with them now most people you’re

meet with them now most people you’re not going to be able to meet with and a

not going to be able to meet with and a

not going to be able to meet with and a lot of people won’t want to meet with

lot of people won’t want to meet with

lot of people won’t want to meet with you and probably those are the clients

you and probably those are the clients

you and probably those are the clients who you don’t want to have as clients if

who you don’t want to have as clients if

who you don’t want to have as clients if someone’s just shopping around trying to

someone’s just shopping around trying to

someone’s just shopping around trying to find the lowest price and you know you

find the lowest price and you know you

find the lowest price and you know you offer to meet with them and they don’t

offer to meet with them and they don’t

offer to meet with them and they don’t want to meet with you then I wouldn’t

want to meet with you then I wouldn’t

want to meet with you then I wouldn’t want that person was my client anyway so

want that person was my client anyway so

want that person was my client anyway so you’re weeding out some of the

you’re weeding out some of the

you’re weeding out some of the people who are just kind of bottom

people who are just kind of bottom

people who are just kind of bottom feeders looking for the lowest price

feeders looking for the lowest price

feeders looking for the lowest price available again you want to focus on

available again you want to focus on

available again you want to focus on that unique value proposition see why

that unique value proposition see why

that unique value proposition see why you’re different and that people will

you’re different and that people will

you’re different and that people will appreciate that when you end up meeting

appreciate that when you end up meeting

appreciate that when you end up meeting with them for coffee or over the phone

with them for coffee or over the phone

with them for coffee or over the phone the next thing I would do is come up

the next thing I would do is come up

the next thing I would do is come up with a package and what a lot of

with a package and what a lot of

with a package and what a lot of printing companies do that I’ve seen is

printing companies do that I’ve seen is

printing companies do that I’ve seen is you send out samples so somebody might

you send out samples so somebody might

you send out samples so somebody might say you know send me some samples of

say you know send me some samples of

say you know send me some samples of what you’ve done before and what I would

what you’ve done before and what I would

what you’ve done before and what I would do instead of just sending those samples

do instead of just sending those samples

do instead of just sending those samples I try to send out a package that is

I try to send out a package that is

I try to send out a package that is tailored to my customer so if for

tailored to my customer so if for

tailored to my customer so if for example your unique value proposition

example your unique value proposition

example your unique value proposition states that you’re really focused on

states that you’re really focused on

states that you’re really focused on working with manufacturers and you’re

working with manufacturers and you’re

working with manufacturers and you’re really good at work with manufacturers

really good at work with manufacturers

really good at work with manufacturers you understand their needs you

you understand their needs you

you understand their needs you understand their printing needs you

understand their printing needs you

understand their printing needs you understand their goals what they need to

understand their goals what they need to

understand their goals what they need to get done and what I would do with my

get done and what I would do with my

get done and what I would do with my package here is not just include samples

package here is not just include samples

package here is not just include samples of work that we’ve done for previous

of work that we’ve done for previous

of work that we’ve done for previous manufacturing companies which is

manufacturing companies which is

manufacturing companies which is important but it also outlined an entire

important but it also outlined an entire

important but it also outlined an entire marketing strategy for what we’ve done

marketing strategy for what we’ve done

marketing strategy for what we’ve done in the past so show the ROI that other

in the past so show the ROI that other

in the past so show the ROI that other manufacturing companies you’ve worked

manufacturing companies you’ve worked

manufacturing companies you’ve worked with have seen from working with your

with have seen from working with your

with have seen from working with your services include testimonials and

services include testimonials and

services include testimonials and pictures and quotes from people who’ve

pictures and quotes from people who’ve

pictures and quotes from people who’ve you’ve worked with who are in a similar

you’ve worked with who are in a similar

you’ve worked with who are in a similar business and manufactured again whatever

business and manufactured again whatever

business and manufactured again whatever industry it is but make sure it’s

industry it is but make sure it’s

industry it is but make sure it’s targeted to that client and so when your

targeted to that client and so when your

targeted to that client and so when your client is looking at your offering

client is looking at your offering

client is looking at your offering versus everybody else first you took the

versus everybody else first you took the

versus everybody else first you took the time to meet with them second you give

time to meet with them second you give

time to meet with them second you give them a professional package that is

them a professional package that is

them a professional package that is catered to their needs and shows that

catered to their needs and shows that

catered to their needs and shows that you really understand what their goals

you really understand what their goals

you really understand what their goals are and even though you’re charging a

are and even though you’re charging a

are and even though you’re charging a higher price a lot of people will think

higher price a lot of people will think

higher price a lot of people will think well this is worth it because these guys

well this is worth it because these guys

well this is worth it because these guys really get what I’m doing so I would try

really get what I’m doing so I would try

really get what I’m doing so I would try to get that in Grain as part of your

to get that in Grain as part of your

to get that in Grain as part of your process you’re always doing this as part

process you’re always doing this as part

process you’re always doing this as part of your sales process instead of just

of your sales process instead of just

of your sales process instead of just sending out samples and quoting people

sending out samples and quoting people

sending out samples and quoting people by email the last thing I would do is

by email the last thing I would do is

by email the last thing I would do is follow up

so a lot of sales calls and there’s a

so a lot of sales calls and there’s a lot of sales process dies because the

lot of sales process dies because the

lot of sales process dies because the company doesn’t follow up and it could

company doesn’t follow up and it could

company doesn’t follow up and it could be because either they found another

be because either they found another

be because either they found another supplier or you know the budget

supplier or you know the budget

supplier or you know the budget disappeared for what they wanted to do

disappeared for what they wanted to do

disappeared for what they wanted to do or they’re not interested in doing it

or they’re not interested in doing it

or they’re not interested in doing it anymore but I would try to follow up at

anymore but I would try to follow up at

anymore but I would try to follow up at least at the beginning every couple

least at the beginning every couple

least at the beginning every couple weeks just to figure out you know if you

weeks just to figure out you know if you

weeks just to figure out you know if you let it deal or not if there’s any other

let it deal or not if there’s any other

let it deal or not if there’s any other questions you can ask or not and then on

questions you can ask or not and then on

questions you can ask or not and then on an ongoing basis I keep people in my

an ongoing basis I keep people in my

an ongoing basis I keep people in my database and quarterly just touch base

database and quarterly just touch base

database and quarterly just touch base with them try to follow up give them

with them try to follow up give them

with them try to follow up give them some new ideas and how they might be

some new ideas and how they might be

some new ideas and how they might be able to market their business or new

able to market their business or new

able to market their business or new printing services that you’re offering

printing services that you’re offering

printing services that you’re offering just to maintain that relationship and

just to maintain that relationship and

just to maintain that relationship and what you want to do especially for

what you want to do especially for

what you want to do especially for business clients if you’re selling

business clients if you’re selling

business clients if you’re selling business-to-business you want to be seen

business-to-business you want to be seen

business-to-business you want to be seen as an important part of somebody’s

as an important part of somebody’s

as an important part of somebody’s business and not just a supplier and so

business and not just a supplier and so

business and not just a supplier and so when I meet with my clients as an

when I meet with my clients as an

when I meet with my clients as an example I don’t just build them and I

example I don’t just build them and I

example I don’t just build them and I don’t talk them anymore especially if

don’t talk them anymore especially if

don’t talk them anymore especially if the client is over as well I’ll follow

the client is over as well I’ll follow

the client is over as well I’ll follow up every quarter with with all my

up every quarter with with all my

up every quarter with with all my clients and try to give them information

clients and try to give them information

clients and try to give them information and data that could help them make

and data that could help them make

and data that could help them make important business decisions and

important business decisions and

important business decisions and hopefully like puts me in a position of

hopefully like puts me in a position of

hopefully like puts me in a position of being really important to their business

being really important to their business

being really important to their business and not just a commodity supplier where

and not just a commodity supplier where

and not just a commodity supplier where they could drop me and go to somebody

they could drop me and go to somebody

they could drop me and go to somebody else really quickly so especially with

else really quickly so especially with

else really quickly so especially with you where you’re selling a printing

you where you’re selling a printing

you where you’re selling a printing service that might be seen as a

service that might be seen as a

service that might be seen as a commodity type of product that somebody

commodity type of product that somebody

commodity type of product that somebody could buy you want to find ways to

could buy you want to find ways to

could buy you want to find ways to establish that relationship and give

establish that relationship and give

establish that relationship and give them information on a regular basis that

them information on a regular basis that

them information on a regular basis that can help them achieve their visions

can help them achieve their visions

can help them achieve their visions business objectives and grow their

business objectives and grow their

business objectives and grow their companies so you know what do you send

companies so you know what do you send

companies so you know what do you send them it’s all still comes back to

them it’s all still comes back to

them it’s all still comes back to instead of having that quote we’ve had

instead of having that quote we’ve had

instead of having that quote we’ve had that meeting and we and they’re saying

that meeting and we and they’re saying

that meeting and we and they’re saying what they’re looking for and we try to

what they’re looking for and we try to

what they’re looking for and we try to help them grow their business

help them grow their business

help them grow their business now not everybody you meet is gonna be

now not everybody you meet is gonna be

now not everybody you meet is gonna be able to sign up with you and maybe not

able to sign up with you and maybe not

able to sign up with you and maybe not in the immediate future as well maybe a

in the immediate future as well maybe a

in the immediate future as well maybe a longer term process but that’s where the

longer term process but that’s where the

longer term process but that’s where the follow-up comes in and touching the base

follow-up comes in and touching the base

follow-up comes in and touching the base with everybody at least once a quarter

with everybody at least once a quarter

with everybody at least once a quarter to see you know again if you might be

to see you know again if you might be

to see you know again if you might be able to help them with their services

able to help them with their services

able to help them with their services and grow their business so I hope that

and grow their business so I hope that

and grow their business so I hope that helps it might be a little bit of a

helps it might be a little bit of a

helps it might be a little bit of a different model than what what you’re

different model than what what you’re

different model than what what you’re used to but it’s moving you from being a

used to but it’s moving you from being a

used to but it’s moving you from being a commodity printing company and this is

commodity printing company and this is

commodity printing company and this is for any entrepreneur moving from a

for any entrepreneur moving from a

for any entrepreneur moving from a commodity service being seen as somebody

commodity service being seen as somebody

commodity service being seen as somebody that they can just drop quickly and

that they can just drop quickly and

that they can just drop quickly and competing only on price to being a

competing only on price to being a

competing only on price to being a valuable part of your customers business

valuable part of your customers business

valuable part of your customers business by understanding what they’re really

by understanding what they’re really

by understanding what they’re really looking for targeting your market really

looking for targeting your market really

looking for targeting your market really not just taking on anybody not just

not just taking on anybody not just

not just taking on anybody not just quoting people going meeting with them

quoting people going meeting with them

quoting people going meeting with them and follow-up making sure you touch base

and follow-up making sure you touch base

and follow-up making sure you touch base with them on a regular basis to show how

with them on a regular basis to show how

with them on a regular basis to show how much you care about their company so I

much you care about their company so I

much you care about their company so I hope that helps if you like the video

hope that helps if you like the video

hope that helps if you like the video I’d love to hear what you guys have to

I’d love to hear what you guys have to

I’d love to hear what you guys have to think below if you want to leave a

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