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Can DIVERSITY and AUTHENTICITY Co-Exist? – Evan & @SKellyCEO


came on how do you bring diversity

came on how do you bring diversity without losing its identity and

without losing its identity and

without losing its identity and authenticity that’s a great question I

authenticity that’s a great question I

authenticity that’s a great question I think I think you came over what what

think I think you came over what what

think I think you came over what what you want to do is just think diverse

you want to do is just think diverse

you want to do is just think diverse from day one and are better than

from day one and are better than

from day one and are better than provider for there’s a book I’ve

provider for there’s a book I’ve

provider for there’s a book I’ve mentioned on a previous kind of blab we

mentioned on a previous kind of blab we

mentioned on a previous kind of blab we did by an Irish Bonnie and it’s a book

did by an Irish Bonnie and it’s a book

did by an Irish Bonnie and it’s a book or what works and the reason why I got

or what works and the reason why I got

or what works and the reason why I got kinda choked me is there’s so many kind

kinda choked me is there’s so many kind

kinda choked me is there’s so many kind of subconscious unconscious biases we

of subconscious unconscious biases we

of subconscious unconscious biases we all have I think the first thing you do

all have I think the first thing you do

all have I think the first thing you do como is to make sure you talk about it

como is to make sure you talk about it

como is to make sure you talk about it so then I think the fundamental I love

so then I think the fundamental I love

so then I think the fundamental I love that word authenticity because if you

that word authenticity because if you

that word authenticity because if you talk about stuff you get it out on the

talk about stuff you get it out on the

talk about stuff you get it out on the table whatever it is and then you can

table whatever it is and then you can

table whatever it is and then you can you know dispassionately see kind of why

you know dispassionately see kind of why

you know dispassionately see kind of why do I think that way or you know why

do I think that way or you know why

do I think that way or you know why while we were just recruited in that

while we were just recruited in that

while we were just recruited in that sort of stereotype or why you know how

sort of stereotype or why you know how

sort of stereotype or why you know how we even place in the words on our

we even place in the words on our

we even place in the words on our website or our social media because

website or our social media because

website or our social media because because it’s all these little elements

because it’s all these little elements

because it’s all these little elements kind of join together to actually

kind of join together to actually

kind of join together to actually attract an audience and then the other

attract an audience and then the other

attract an audience and then the other thing I think really fundamental as a

thing I think really fundamental as a

thing I think really fundamental as a leader on also transparent and then if

leader on also transparent and then if

leader on also transparent and then if you plan diversity and right from the

you plan diversity and right from the

you plan diversity and right from the get-go into your business I think it can

get-go into your business I think it can

get-go into your business I think it can be a real competitive strength in the

be a real competitive strength in the

be a real competitive strength in the long term and it builds an awesome

long term and it builds an awesome

long term and it builds an awesome culture and a coach you’d be really

culture and a coach you’d be really

culture and a coach you’d be really proud of and I think of us to be the

proud of and I think of us to be the

proud of and I think of us to be the financial return to that other’s time to

financial return to that other’s time to

financial return to that other’s time to date on that but it just makes you proud

date on that but it just makes you proud

date on that but it just makes you proud that you feel something very special

that you feel something very special

that you feel something very special very sustainable and very diverse and

very sustainable and very diverse and

very sustainable and very diverse and inclusive as well so so I think that

inclusive as well so so I think that

inclusive as well so so I think that comes down to the behaviors there’s a

comes down to the behaviors there’s a

comes down to the behaviors there’s a whole loads of research as well that are

whole loads of research as well that are

whole loads of research as well that are around kind of D biasing because reality

around kind of D biasing because reality

around kind of D biasing because reality is you just got to acknowledge that

is you just got to acknowledge that

is you just got to acknowledge that we’ve all got we both got biases we’ve

we’ve all got we both got biases we’ve

we’ve all got we both got biases we’ve all got armed conscious and sometimes

all got armed conscious and sometimes

all got armed conscious and sometimes very clearly subconscious preferences

very clearly subconscious preferences

very clearly subconscious preferences and and the more we actually challenge

and and the more we actually challenge

and and the more we actually challenge them ourselves

them ourselves

them ourselves then the better world videos

then the better world videos

then the better world videos entrepreneurs and leaders ah

entrepreneurs and leaders ah

entrepreneurs and leaders ah and the more actually we feel

and the more actually we feel

and the more actually we feel placing and comfortable probably the

placing and comfortable probably the

placing and comfortable probably the more we kind of fester and just progress

more we kind of fester and just progress

more we kind of fester and just progress so I would really say memo said this is

so I would really say memo said this is

so I would really say memo said this is what probably evident I do kind of most

what probably evident I do kind of most

what probably evident I do kind of most weeks we reflect kinda what’s gone well

weeks we reflect kinda what’s gone well

weeks we reflect kinda what’s gone well what’s not gone well what have I done

what’s not gone well what have I done

what’s not gone well what have I done well as a leader did I did what could I

well as a leader did I did what could I

well as a leader did I did what could I have done differently you know and then

have done differently you know and then

have done differently you know and then kind of challenge is sort of

kind of challenge is sort of

kind of challenge is sort of subconscious about you know weird viewed

subconscious about you know weird viewed

subconscious about you know weird viewed these folks and actually it’s kind of

these folks and actually it’s kind of

these folks and actually it’s kind of great entities now I very often go to

great entities now I very often go to

great entities now I very often go to meetings where I’m the only guy and I

meetings where I’m the only guy and I

meetings where I’m the only guy and I think why this is cool like this and you

think why this is cool like this and you

think why this is cool like this and you know I obviously it’s way more than just

know I obviously it’s way more than just

know I obviously it’s way more than just gender I’ve got to get into race faith

gender I’ve got to get into race faith

gender I’ve got to get into race faith age disability all these areas but you

age disability all these areas but you

age disability all these areas but you know I think there’s some real real

know I think there’s some real real

know I think there’s some real real things that you as a leader and

things that you as a leader and

things that you as a leader and entrepreneur can kind of think about and

entrepreneur can kind of think about and

entrepreneur can kind of think about and your rights have flagged up those words

your rights have flagged up those words

your rights have flagged up those words of authenticity I think it’s all about

of authenticity I think it’s all about

of authenticity I think it’s all about culture it’s all about transparency it’s

culture it’s all about transparency it’s

culture it’s all about transparency it’s all about good I think a great culture

all about good I think a great culture

all about good I think a great culture is a company where people talk about

is a company where people talk about

is a company where people talk about stuff people don’t hide stuff or stand

stuff people don’t hide stuff or stand

stuff people don’t hide stuff or stand by the you know coffee machine and just

by the you know coffee machine and just

by the you know coffee machine and just talk behind your back

talk behind your back

talk behind your back I just think transparency and openness

I just think transparency and openness

I just think transparency and openness is a great culture because because

is a great culture because because

is a great culture because because ultimately then you can put teams

ultimately then you can put teams

ultimately then you can put teams together squads together who can work on

together squads together who can work on

together squads together who can work on stuff that means stuff will change for

stuff that means stuff will change for

stuff that means stuff will change for customers and build value for customers

customers and build value for customers

customers and build value for customers is all about you know serving the guys

is all about you know serving the guys

is all about you know serving the guys who are going to be buying a product or

who are going to be buying a product or

who are going to be buying a product or services and really enjoying what you

services and really enjoying what you

services and really enjoying what you build it building taking your idea and

build it building taking your idea and

build it building taking your idea and making it real and the way you do that

making it real and the way you do that

making it real and the way you do that is almost as important as the idea

is almost as important as the idea

is almost as important as the idea itself so I think I think you hit on a

itself so I think I think you hit on a

itself so I think I think you hit on a really rich reign there as you came oh

really rich reign there as you came oh

really rich reign there as you came oh thank you if you’re worried about you

thank you if you’re worried about you

thank you if you’re worried about you losing your authenticity you need to

losing your authenticity you need to

losing your authenticity you need to know what your mission is and you can’t

know what your mission is and you can’t

know what your mission is and you can’t I have diversity around a mission like

I have diversity around a mission like

I have diversity around a mission like this is what our company is here to do

this is what our company is here to do

this is what our company is here to do right like sage is here to help

right like sage is here to help

right like sage is here to help entrepreneurs as long as you’re

entrepreneurs as long as you’re

entrepreneurs as long as you’re surrounded by that common mission then

surrounded by that common mission then

surrounded by that common mission then there’s a lot of different ways to go

there’s a lot of different ways to go

there’s a lot of different ways to go and do it

and do it

and do it right sage you know you guys launch your

right sage you know you guys launch your

right sage you know you guys launch your your foundation which does a lot of work

your foundation which does a lot of work

your foundation which does a lot of work around the world helping out Stephen

around the world helping out Stephen

around the world helping out Stephen these to help out and give back

these to help out and give back

these to help out and give back entrepreneurs they have sage summit

entrepreneurs they have sage summit

entrepreneurs they have sage summit every year which is a massive party how

every year which is a massive party how

every year which is a massive party how to help entrepreneurs and so there’s a

to help entrepreneurs and so there’s a

to help entrepreneurs and so there’s a lot of different ways to do it right as

lot of different ways to do it right as

lot of different ways to do it right as other ideas that will come up as new

other ideas that will come up as new

other ideas that will come up as new people come into sage and it even comes

people come into sage and it even comes

people come into sage and it even comes up some ideas the way Bill attacks will

up some ideas the way Bill attacks will

up some ideas the way Bill attacks will be a lot of different ways but there’s

be a lot of different ways but there’s

be a lot of different ways but there’s still the mission that we want to go out

still the mission that we want to go out

still the mission that we want to go out and help entrepreneurs and build the

and help entrepreneurs and build the

and help entrepreneurs and build the best software to do it you know we’re

best software to do it you know we’re

best software to do it you know we’re not in the car business or something

not in the car business or something

not in the car business or something else I think as long as you have a

else I think as long as you have a

else I think as long as you have a really focused mission you know you’re

really focused mission you know you’re

really focused mission you know you’re why look this is what we’re trying to do

why look this is what we’re trying to do

why look this is what we’re trying to do there’s a lot of different ways to go

there’s a lot of different ways to go

there’s a lot of different ways to go and attack it but not being I think if

and attack it but not being I think if

and attack it but not being I think if you have diversity and the what we’re

you have diversity and the what we’re

you have diversity and the what we’re trying to do then that could be an issue

trying to do then that could be an issue

trying to do then that could be an issue I think you need to have as the leader

I think you need to have as the leader

I think you need to have as the leader how’s that clear focus and then that

how’s that clear focus and then that

how’s that clear focus and then that gives your team the freedom to go up and

gives your team the freedom to go up and

gives your team the freedom to go up and do what they need to do

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