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a different question from rice online do you believe that people’s life spans
you believe that people’s life spans
you believe that people’s life spans youth and well-being can be extended
youth and well-being can be extended
youth and well-being can be extended making it even less relevant what age
making it even less relevant what age
making it even less relevant what age you are when you start as a late bloomer
you are when you start as a late bloomer
you are when you start as a late bloomer so yeah I do by expanding life life
so yeah I do by expanding life life
so yeah I do by expanding life life spans you can will be yeah I think up so
spans you can will be yeah I think up so
spans you can will be yeah I think up so Evan someone asked me the other day you
Evan someone asked me the other day you
Evan someone asked me the other day you know when are you going to retire Steven
know when are you going to retire Steven
know when are you going to retire Steven said I’ve set my retirement date is the
said I’ve set my retirement date is the
said I’ve set my retirement date is the day I die yeah love it when you are so
day I die yeah love it when you are so
day I die yeah love it when you are so passionate about your business and you
passionate about your business and you
passionate about your business and you love what you’re doing well I think
love what you’re doing well I think
love what you’re doing well I think you’ve got a much better karma you could
you’ve got a much better karma you could
you’ve got a much better karma you could give much more to your family your
give much more to your family your
give much more to your family your personal life your friends you know no
personal life your friends you know no
personal life your friends you know no one wants to kind of go home and be bent
one wants to kind of go home and be bent
one wants to kind of go home and be bent out of shape people want to be positive
out of shape people want to be positive
out of shape people want to be positive energy and I all the entrepreneurs dunno
energy and I all the entrepreneurs dunno
energy and I all the entrepreneurs dunno you know got huge energy huge passion
you know got huge energy huge passion
you know got huge energy huge passion they really believe they’re following
they really believe they’re following
they really believe they’re following their dreams and it does it does become
their dreams and it does it does become
their dreams and it does it does become contagious it rubs off and I i I’ve got
contagious it rubs off and I i I’ve got
contagious it rubs off and I i I’ve got no statistics to say you’re going to
no statistics to say you’re going to
no statistics to say you’re going to live to do 150 and you’re gonna have
live to do 150 and you’re gonna have
live to do 150 and you’re gonna have perfect health but what I would say is
perfect health but what I would say is
perfect health but what I would say is you know you just got a much greater
you know you just got a much greater
you know you just got a much greater come you probably have more fun in your
come you probably have more fun in your
come you probably have more fun in your life yep if you’re your own boss you you
life yep if you’re your own boss you you
life yep if you’re your own boss you you know you’ve really accountable for
know you’ve really accountable for
know you’ve really accountable for everything good about what you created
everything good about what you created
everything good about what you created and that’s a very special and unique
and that’s a very special and unique
and that’s a very special and unique feeling and I think I do think it rubs
feeling and I think I do think it rubs
feeling and I think I do think it rubs off incredibly positive leave where a
off incredibly positive leave where a
off incredibly positive leave where a also you know it’s probably means that
also you know it’s probably means that
also you know it’s probably means that your work and your life and your friends
your work and your life and your friends
your work and your life and your friends there’s a greater blur and they’re much
there’s a greater blur and they’re much
there’s a greater blur and they’re much more integrated they’re much more
more integrated they’re much more
more integrated they’re much more holistic they’re much more part of what
holistic they’re much more part of what
holistic they’re much more part of what your personality is I love it in the in
your personality is I love it in the in
your personality is I love it in the in the pre-chat we’re talking about two
the pre-chat we’re talking about two
the pre-chat we’re talking about two entrepreneurs Ray Kroc and Colonel
entrepreneurs Ray Kroc and Colonel
entrepreneurs Ray Kroc and Colonel sandals Sanders and Ray Kroc build
sandals Sanders and Ray Kroc build
sandals Sanders and Ray Kroc build McDonald’s and he was in his 50s and he
McDonald’s and he was in his 50s and he
McDonald’s and he was in his 50s and he already had diabetes and arthritis and
already had diabetes and arthritis and
already had diabetes and arthritis and lost most of his gallbladder and and he
lost most of his gallbladder and and he
lost most of his gallbladder and and he was convinced that the best years were
was convinced that the best years were
was convinced that the best years were still ahead of him you know when he’s in
still ahead of him you know when he’s in
still ahead of him you know when he’s in his fifties and have all these issues
his fifties and have all these issues
his fifties and have all these issues and Colonel Sanders started KFC and he
and Colonel Sanders started KFC and he
and Colonel Sanders started KFC and he started franchising when he was in his
started franchising when he was in his
started franchising when he was in his 60s and from 65 to 75 he opened up
60s and from 65 to 75 he opened up
60s and from 65 to 75 he opened up hundred stores right see you like 65
hundred stores right see you like 65
hundred stores right see you like 65 years old people thinking about
years old people thinking about
years old people thinking about retirement here’s Sanders say no I still
retirement here’s Sanders say no I still
retirement here’s Sanders say no I still got a lot of work to do i’m going to
got a lot of work to do i’m going to
got a lot of work to do i’m going to open up six hundred stores and he kept
open up six hundred stores and he kept
open up six hundred stores and he kept working till the day he died to 90 years
working till the day he died to 90 years
working till the day he died to 90 years old building up KFC and these are two
old building up KFC and these are two
old building up KFC and these are two guys who are in the restaurant business
guys who are in the restaurant business
guys who are in the restaurant business which is you know the highest failure
which is you know the highest failure
which is you know the highest failure rate of any industry is the restaurant
rate of any industry is the restaurant
rate of any industry is the restaurant business and they say i don’t care i’m
business and they say i don’t care i’m
business and they say i don’t care i’m going to do it and so you know when
going to do it and so you know when
going to do it and so you know when you’re at an age when most people think
you’re at an age when most people think
you’re at an age when most people think they’re going to quit that’s just that’s
they’re going to quit that’s just that’s
they’re going to quit that’s just that’s just starting time for a lot of people
just starting time for a lot of people
just starting time for a lot of people and love that mentality i think when you
and love that mentality i think when you
and love that mentality i think when you love what you do then it’s easy to want
love what you do then it’s easy to want
love what you do then it’s easy to want to keep going because it it fuels you
to keep going because it it fuels you
to keep going because it it fuels you gets you excited yeah never done i
gets you excited yeah never done i
gets you excited yeah never done i interested my family of small business
interested my family of small business
interested my family of small business people some of that had a teen coffee
people some of that had a teen coffee
people some of that had a teen coffee you know early version of starbucks and
you know early version of starbucks and
you know early version of starbucks and he did importing coffee and all that
he did importing coffee and all that
he did importing coffee and all that sort of stuff and then he got sick
sort of stuff and then he got sick
sort of stuff and then he got sick actually in here we had to sell the
actually in here we had to sell the
actually in here we had to sell the business he was probably 60 when he did
business he was probably 60 when he did
business he was probably 60 when he did that and he got better and then he could
that and he got better and then he could
that and he got better and then he could went to work for someone but I remember
went to work for someone but I remember
went to work for someone but I remember him coming home when I was a kid and he
him coming home when I was a kid and he
him coming home when I was a kid and he said you know I just hate I just you
said you know I just hate I just you
said you know I just hate I just you know have a.m. to take orders and I can
know have a.m. to take orders and I can
know have a.m. to take orders and I can see so many things wrong with the
see so many things wrong with the
see so many things wrong with the business and we could do it so much
business and we could do it so much
business and we could do it so much differently and better and yeah he did
differently and better and yeah he did
differently and better and yeah he did that for three years he got frustrated
that for three years he got frustrated
that for three years he got frustrated to say I want to be my own boss again I
to say I want to be my own boss again I
to say I want to be my own boss again I want to you know get back and go and do
want to you know get back and go and do
want to you know get back and go and do all over again and that’s a guy in his
all over again and that’s a guy in his
all over again and that’s a guy in his sixties and I think age is just Evans a
sixties and I think age is just Evans a
sixties and I think age is just Evans a young guy I’m an old guy but I feel like
young guy I’m an old guy but I feel like
young guy I’m an old guy but I feel like a 19 year old kid in my head and when
a 19 year old kid in my head and when
a 19 year old kid in my head and when you talk to whoever you talk to you talk
you talk to whoever you talk to you talk
you talk to whoever you talk to you talk to your grandma you you ask them
to your grandma you you ask them
to your grandma you you ask them honestly how do they feel in their head
honestly how do they feel in their head
honestly how do they feel in their head they feel like they were 25 all over
they feel like they were 25 all over
they feel like they were 25 all over again and I think a lot of people were
again and I think a lot of people were
again and I think a lot of people were seeing this now is you guys huge energy
seeing this now is you guys huge energy
seeing this now is you guys huge energy with the embracement of kind of the
with the embracement of kind of the
with the embracement of kind of the digital social media as well age has
digital social media as well age has
digital social media as well age has very little impact on your capability
very little impact on your capability
very little impact on your capability you enthusiasm or energy and the
you enthusiasm or energy and the
you enthusiasm or energy and the experience you have is incredible so
experience you have is incredible so
experience you have is incredible so some of the statistics over in the UK
some of the statistics over in the UK
some of the statistics over in the UK from old people so over 50s are actually
from old people so over 50s are actually
from old people so over 50s are actually creating businesses there’s more than
creating businesses there’s more than
creating businesses there’s more than fifty percent more
fifty percent more
fifty percent more this is created by over fifties and
this is created by over fifties and
this is created by over fifties and there were in two thousand eight seven
there were in two thousand eight seven
there were in two thousand eight seven years ago the other thing is really
years ago the other thing is really
years ago the other thing is really interesting they apply their experience
interesting they apply their experience
interesting they apply their experience but they’re hiring is seven times
but they’re hiring is seven times
but they’re hiring is seven times greater of employees than it is for any
greater of employees than it is for any
greater of employees than it is for any other business in the UK the average so
other business in the UK the average so
other business in the UK the average so what it means is more older people are
what it means is more older people are
what it means is more older people are starting their businesses there being
starting their businesses there being
starting their businesses there being more successful the data is there twenty
more successful the data is there twenty
more successful the data is there twenty twenty nine percent more profitable I
twenty nine percent more profitable I
twenty nine percent more profitable I also their employ more people that
also their employ more people that
also their employ more people that creates prosperity for you know rural
creates prosperity for you know rural
creates prosperity for you know rural communities urban communities right
communities urban communities right
communities urban communities right across you can the data is the same in
across you can the data is the same in
across you can the data is the same in the US and I think also Evan I think
the US and I think also Evan I think
the US and I think also Evan I think people kind of get sick of corporate
people kind of get sick of corporate
people kind of get sick of corporate life and when you’re in your 50s you’ve
life and when you’re in your 50s you’ve
life and when you’re in your 50s you’ve probably got you know reasonable
probably got you know reasonable
probably got you know reasonable financial security and and you’ve got an
financial security and and you’ve got an
financial security and and you’ve got an idea and that’s the time to say now is
idea and that’s the time to say now is
idea and that’s the time to say now is the right time I’ll go and do what I’ve
the right time I’ll go and do what I’ve
the right time I’ll go and do what I’ve always dreamt of doing for the last 30
always dreamt of doing for the last 30
always dreamt of doing for the last 30 years and I will go and follow my dreams
years and I will go and follow my dreams
years and I will go and follow my dreams great time to do it yeah it’s great to
great time to do it yeah it’s great to
great time to do it yeah it’s great to see because I you know I see a lot of
see because I you know I see a lot of
see because I you know I see a lot of people go into the corporate path and in
people go into the corporate path and in
people go into the corporate path and in the longer they stay there the harder it
the longer they stay there the harder it
the longer they stay there the harder it is to get off the more they rely on that
is to get off the more they rely on that
is to get off the more they rely on that stability and they built their family up
stability and they built their family up
stability and they built their family up and so that there’s the even more
and so that there’s the even more
and so that there’s the even more pressure to deliver results and they say
pressure to deliver results and they say
pressure to deliver results and they say well if I was 20 and I didn’t have a
well if I was 20 and I didn’t have a
well if I was 20 and I didn’t have a spouse and enough kids be way easier to
spouse and enough kids be way easier to
spouse and enough kids be way easier to do it but it’s great to see that people
do it but it’s great to see that people
do it but it’s great to see that people are now actually taking the opportunity
are now actually taking the opportunity
are now actually taking the opportunity to jump off and throw their own business
to jump off and throw their own business
to jump off and throw their own business I think I think surrounding yourself
I think I think surrounding yourself
I think I think surrounding yourself with young energy helps to you think I’m
with young energy helps to you think I’m
with young energy helps to you think I’m a young guy but I’m the oldest guy my
a young guy but I’m the oldest guy my
a young guy but I’m the oldest guy my company in both my company’s everybody’s
company in both my company’s everybody’s
company in both my company’s everybody’s younger than me so you know they keep me
younger than me so you know they keep me
younger than me so you know they keep me vibrant and give me new ideas and energy
vibrant and give me new ideas and energy
vibrant and give me new ideas and energy as well so I that can help too if you’re
as well so I that can help too if you’re
as well so I that can help too if you’re you know if your peer group isn’t giving
you know if your peer group isn’t giving
you know if your peer group isn’t giving you the energy that you need and change
you the energy that you need and change
you the energy that you need and change your peer group to get that vibe I’ve
your peer group to get that vibe I’ve
your peer group to get that vibe I’ve got a mortgage I’ve got financial
got a mortgage I’ve got financial
got a mortgage I’ve got financial dependency on the kids I just can’t
dependency on the kids I just can’t
dependency on the kids I just can’t afford to take the risk that’s wrong so
afford to take the risk that’s wrong so
afford to take the risk that’s wrong so there’s a couple of ways you can think
there’s a couple of ways you can think
there’s a couple of ways you can think about how do i do a soft land in to an
about how do i do a soft land in to an
about how do i do a soft land in to an exit and start your business an
exit and start your business an
exit and start your business an entrepreneur one do a bit of
entrepreneur one do a bit of
entrepreneur one do a bit of moonlighting so you do your full-time
moonlighting so you do your full-time
moonlighting so you do your full-time job you’ve got your evenings weekends
job you’ve got your evenings weekends
job you’ve got your evenings weekends free start your business
free start your business
free start your business secondly if you got a great relationship
secondly if you got a great relationship
secondly if you got a great relationship with your boss say how about a
with your boss say how about a
with your boss say how about a sabbatical how about you know the
sabbatical how about you know the
sabbatical how about you know the reality if you agree that company will
reality if you agree that company will
reality if you agree that company will beg you to come back whether it’s a year
beg you to come back whether it’s a year
beg you to come back whether it’s a year two years three years so you’ve got
two years three years so you’ve got
two years three years so you’ve got total security because you know you’ve
total security because you know you’ve
total security because you know you’ve got a job so you can go out and you can
got a job so you can go out and you can
got a job so you can go out and you can fail fast try a couple things and have
fail fast try a couple things and have
fail fast try a couple things and have like a two-year sabbatical where you go
like a two-year sabbatical where you go
like a two-year sabbatical where you go and live your dreams for that two years
and live your dreams for that two years
and live your dreams for that two years if it takes off never go back so there’s
if it takes off never go back so there’s
if it takes off never go back so there’s some smart ways you can think about how
some smart ways you can think about how
some smart ways you can think about how do I actually use my existing company to
do I actually use my existing company to
do I actually use my existing company to give me a bit of time space or a bit of
give me a bit of time space or a bit of
give me a bit of time space or a bit of moonlight in to end ironically a guy
moonlight in to end ironically a guy
moonlight in to end ironically a guy called my bailiff who started
called my bailiff who started
called my bailiff who started salesforce.com amazing entrepreneur
salesforce.com amazing entrepreneur
salesforce.com amazing entrepreneur amazingly to build a great company did
amazingly to build a great company did
amazingly to build a great company did exactly that from a company called
exactly that from a company called
exactly that from a company called Oracle and Larry Ellison the chief
Oracle and Larry Ellison the chief
Oracle and Larry Ellison the chief executive Aurora actually gave him space
executive Aurora actually gave him space
executive Aurora actually gave him space and some time off to start cell source
and some time off to start cell source
and some time off to start cell source back in what was it two thousand and now
back in what was it two thousand and now
back in what was it two thousand and now it’s I think about as seven billion
it’s I think about as seven billion
it’s I think about as seven billion dollar company with a market value of
dollar company with a market value of
dollar company with a market value of probably ten times that so there’s loads
probably ten times that so there’s loads
probably ten times that so there’s loads of ways whether you’re in that you know
of ways whether you’re in that you know
of ways whether you’re in that you know in the 50s where if you think you’ve got
in the 50s where if you think you’ve got
in the 50s where if you think you’ve got financial security problem there’s got
financial security problem there’s got
financial security problem there’s got to be a way around it where you can
to be a way around it where you can
to be a way around it where you can follow your dreams be an entrepreneur
follow your dreams be an entrepreneur
follow your dreams be an entrepreneur and also maybe sometimes get your
and also maybe sometimes get your
and also maybe sometimes get your company to give you a bit of a buffer to
company to give you a bit of a buffer to
company to give you a bit of a buffer to actually start your dreams off I love it
actually start your dreams off I love it
actually start your dreams off I love it it’s the resourcefulness right there I
it’s the resourcefulness right there I
it’s the resourcefulness right there I love it
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