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How to write ads that SELL without hiring a copywriter ft. @antonvolney


welcome everybody to another Google

welcome everybody to another Google hangout super excited to be here with a

hangout super excited to be here with a

hangout super excited to be here with a friend of mine Anton and we’re gonna be

friend of mine Anton and we’re gonna be

friend of mine Anton and we’re gonna be talking about how to write ads that sell

talking about how to write ads that sell

talking about how to write ads that sell so you don’t need to hire a copywriter

so you don’t need to hire a copywriter

so you don’t need to hire a copywriter and you know writing great content is

and you know writing great content is

and you know writing great content is one of the things that you need to do as

one of the things that you need to do as

one of the things that you need to do as an entrepreneur to get your message out

an entrepreneur to get your message out

an entrepreneur to get your message out and to get people to buy your stuff so

and to get people to buy your stuff so

and to get people to buy your stuff so Anton is the man

Anton is the man

Anton is the man Anton welcome to the show thanks I’m

Anton welcome to the show thanks I’m

Anton welcome to the show thanks I’m really glad to be here

really glad to be here

really glad to be here cool do you want to give people just a

cool do you want to give people just a

cool do you want to give people just a quick intro a little background on you

quick intro a little background on you

quick intro a little background on you so they know where you’re coming from

so they know where you’re coming from

so they know where you’re coming from yes so um I’ve been writing copy which

yes so um I’ve been writing copy which

yes so um I’ve been writing copy which is writing ads for mostly online

is writing ads for mostly online

is writing ads for mostly online entrepreneurs for almost I’d say four to

entrepreneurs for almost I’d say four to

entrepreneurs for almost I’d say four to five years at this point it’s been all

five years at this point it’s been all

five years at this point it’s been all I’ve been doing for a long time I have

I’ve been doing for a long time I have

I’ve been doing for a long time I have my name isn’t out there so much because

my name isn’t out there so much because

my name isn’t out there so much because I like to hide in the shadows I I’ve

I like to hide in the shadows I I’ve

I like to hide in the shadows I I’ve worked for some people that you may have

worked for some people that you may have

worked for some people that you may have heard of I’ve worked for raw meats 80

heard of I’ve worked for raw meats 80

heard of I’ve worked for raw meats 80 for a while as a senior copywriter and

for a while as a senior copywriter and

for a while as a senior copywriter and probably a lot of other people that you

probably a lot of other people that you

probably a lot of other people that you may not have heard of and I also spent a

may not have heard of and I also spent a

may not have heard of and I also spent a lot of time working on my own background

lot of time working on my own background

lot of time working on my own background business because I like I really I I do

business because I like I really I I do

business because I like I really I I do copywriting because really at heart I’m

copywriting because really at heart I’m

copywriting because really at heart I’m an entrepreneur that’s what I love so

an entrepreneur that’s what I love so

an entrepreneur that’s what I love so you know I spent a lot of time working

you know I spent a lot of time working

you know I spent a lot of time working on my Amazon business and all sorts of

on my Amazon business and all sorts of

on my Amazon business and all sorts of other stuff in the background that’s my

other stuff in the background that’s my

other stuff in the background that’s my little story cool and I put his link to

little story cool and I put his link to

little story cool and I put his link to the website below you guys can learn

the website below you guys can learn

the website below you guys can learn more about what he’s all about – so

more about what he’s all about – so

more about what he’s all about – so let’s you know hit me up with some tips

let’s you know hit me up with some tips

let’s you know hit me up with some tips so what do I need to know I want to

so what do I need to know I want to

so what do I need to know I want to write some ads that sell what’s what’s

write some ads that sell what’s what’s

write some ads that sell what’s what’s your process what advice do you have for

your process what advice do you have for

your process what advice do you have for entrepreneurs okay so walk with me for a

entrepreneurs okay so walk with me for a

entrepreneurs okay so walk with me for a second let’s just last week I was on

second let’s just last week I was on

second let’s just last week I was on Facebook I have an old friend he’s a

Facebook I have an old friend he’s a

Facebook I have an old friend he’s a magician and he doesn’t know anything

magician and he doesn’t know anything

magician and he doesn’t know anything about writing coffee he doesn’t know how

about writing coffee he doesn’t know how

about writing coffee he doesn’t know how do I copy like he doesn’t spend time

do I copy like he doesn’t spend time

do I copy like he doesn’t spend time reading books like me and all that crap

reading books like me and all that crap

reading books like me and all that crap he doesn’t he doesn’t know what to do

he doesn’t he doesn’t know what to do

he doesn’t he doesn’t know what to do okay but he did a really good job I was

okay but he did a really good job I was

okay but he did a really good job I was impressed I was so impressed I called

impressed I was so impressed I called

impressed I was so impressed I called him up because I hadn’t talked to him in

him up because I hadn’t talked to him in

him up because I hadn’t talked to him in a good few years I called know that’s

a good few years I called know that’s

a good few years I called know that’s how much

how much

how much coffee and he’s used this technique to

coffee and he’s used this technique to

coffee and he’s used this technique to really grow his business to the next

really grow his business to the next

really grow his business to the next level he just told me he actually might

level he just told me he actually might

level he just told me he actually might be he’s he’s fingers crossed he’s trying

be he’s he’s fingers crossed he’s trying

be he’s he’s fingers crossed he’s trying to do a show for Justin Bieber in a

to do a show for Justin Bieber in a

to do a show for Justin Bieber in a couple of weeks that’s where he’s at

couple of weeks that’s where he’s at

couple of weeks that’s where he’s at okay so um so I’m gonna tell you

okay so um so I’m gonna tell you

okay so um so I’m gonna tell you something that I saw on his Facebook so

something that I saw on his Facebook so

something that I saw on his Facebook so I just puts up a video and he says uh

I just puts up a video and he says uh

I just puts up a video and he says uh just a story about some mistakes that I

just a story about some mistakes that I

just a story about some mistakes that I made you know and then I watch the video

made you know and then I watch the video

made you know and then I watch the video and it’s all about this story about how

and it’s all about this story about how

and it’s all about this story about how right before one of one of his big gigs

right before one of one of his big gigs

right before one of one of his big gigs as a magician he has to go to the

as a magician he has to go to the

as a magician he has to go to the bathroom and what happens is he

bathroom and what happens is he

bathroom and what happens is he accidentally goes to the ladies bathroom

accidentally goes to the ladies bathroom

accidentally goes to the ladies bathroom and he’s it’s really like a bad time

and he’s it’s really like a bad time

and he’s it’s really like a bad time he’s a really embarrassed everybody’s

he’s a really embarrassed everybody’s

he’s a really embarrassed everybody’s looking at him like he’s a freak show

looking at him like he’s a freak show

looking at him like he’s a freak show and what’s going on I don’t want to do

and what’s going on I don’t want to do

and what’s going on I don’t want to do and then from there he everything that

and then from there he everything that

and then from there he everything that could go wrong went wrong and he really

could go wrong went wrong and he really

could go wrong went wrong and he really had to grapple with I pull up the best

had to grapple with I pull up the best

had to grapple with I pull up the best all of the stops as being the

all of the stops as being the

all of the stops as being the professional that he is to ensure that

professional that he is to ensure that

professional that he is to ensure that he had a great show and he was worried

he had a great show and he was worried

he had a great show and he was worried because for a second that really looked

because for a second that really looked

because for a second that really looked like it might not work out and they

like it might not work out and they

like it might not work out and they might not be happy but he was like hey I

might not be happy but he was like hey I

might not be happy but he was like hey I have my money back guarantee blah blah

have my money back guarantee blah blah

have my money back guarantee blah blah blah and that was this video okay so I

blah and that was this video okay so I

blah and that was this video okay so I gave you this example for a really

gave you this example for a really

gave you this example for a really really important reason I summarized

really important reason I summarized

really important reason I summarized this I hope you caught the idea but the

this I hope you caught the idea but the

this I hope you caught the idea but the reason I told you this is because one of

reason I told you this is because one of

reason I told you this is because one of what I’d say is the biggest mistakes

what I’d say is the biggest mistakes

what I’d say is the biggest mistakes that people are making with copying how

that people are making with copying how

that people are making with copying how to persuade people how to sell is that

to persuade people how to sell is that

to persuade people how to sell is that they’re thinking a little bit too much

they’re thinking a little bit too much

they’re thinking a little bit too much like elect like a professor and not

like elect like a professor and not

like elect like a professor and not enough like someone who’s sitting on a

enough like someone who’s sitting on a

enough like someone who’s sitting on a bar having a good time with someone like

bar having a good time with someone like

bar having a good time with someone like a friend okay so the bottom line here is

a friend okay so the bottom line here is

a friend okay so the bottom line here is nobody likes a lecture and everybody

nobody likes a lecture and everybody

nobody likes a lecture and everybody loves a good story right and the more

loves a good story right and the more

loves a good story right and the more you lecture the more you’re gonna have

you lecture the more you’re gonna have

you lecture the more you’re gonna have to pull out all of the the fancy stuff

to pull out all of the the fancy stuff

to pull out all of the the fancy stuff to make your your ad sound amazing and

to make your your ad sound amazing and

to make your your ad sound amazing and the more you tell a good story the less

the more you tell a good story the less

the more you tell a good story the less selling you have to do the less

selling you have to do the less

selling you have to do the less high-pressure

high-pressure

high-pressure you have to be the less sleazy and slimy

you have to be the less sleazy and slimy

you have to be the less sleazy and slimy you sound so the first step is tell a

you sound so the first step is tell a

you sound so the first step is tell a good story that’s I’m gonna like land

good story that’s I’m gonna like land

good story that’s I’m gonna like land that plane and that’s that’s the first

that plane and that’s that’s the first

that plane and that’s that’s the first big tip tell a good story and embedding

big tip tell a good story and embedding

big tip tell a good story and embedding your the benefits to your service and

your the benefits to your service and

your the benefits to your service and product in a damn good story

product in a damn good story

product in a damn good story cool so if I’m you know so all here’s an

cool so if I’m you know so all here’s an

cool so if I’m you know so all here’s an example so one of the business I have is

example so one of the business I have is

example so one of the business I have is a salsa dancing business okay so yeah so

a salsa dancing business okay so yeah so

a salsa dancing business okay so yeah so say I’m writing copy for the home page

say I’m writing copy for the home page

say I’m writing copy for the home page or the about page write what

or the about page write what

or the about page write what how would you lead off with a story what

how would you lead off with a story what

how would you lead off with a story what what store do I want to tell to entice

what store do I want to tell to entice

what store do I want to tell to entice people to want to sign up for salsa

people to want to sign up for salsa

people to want to sign up for salsa classes okay I would start with one of a

classes okay I would start with one of a

classes okay I would start with one of a couple things um if first of all I would

couple things um if first of all I would

couple things um if first of all I would tell a story that answers a few

tell a story that answers a few

tell a story that answers a few important questions

important questions

important questions why are you better why are you different

why are you better why are you different

why are you better why are you different what makes you better what’s what what

what makes you better what’s what what

what makes you better what’s what what is it about salsa that really could get

is it about salsa that really could get

is it about salsa that really could get someone excited alright and then I would

someone excited alright and then I would

someone excited alright and then I would find a story that you can tell that is

find a story that you can tell that is

find a story that you can tell that is your story Evan that exemplifies what it

your story Evan that exemplifies what it

your story Evan that exemplifies what it is that all of these questions that you

is that all of these questions that you

is that all of these questions that you just now answered right so you Evan

just now answered right so you Evan

just now answered right so you Evan I don’t remember I don’t know your life

I don’t remember I don’t know your life

I don’t remember I don’t know your life as a salsa dancer or instructor or owner

as a salsa dancer or instructor or owner

as a salsa dancer or instructor or owner of a salsa business but I know that you

of a salsa business but I know that you

of a salsa business but I know that you know I remember the last one of the

know I remember the last one of the

know I remember the last one of the times in the past that we spoke he told

times in the past that we spoke he told

times in the past that we spoke he told a story about how you sold your business

a story about how you sold your business

a story about how you sold your business and you were just you know kind of like

and you were just you know kind of like

and you were just you know kind of like a college kid and oh so long ago I still

a college kid and oh so long ago I still

a college kid and oh so long ago I still kind of remember how that’s how you were

kind of remember how that’s how you were

kind of remember how that’s how you were struggling and it sucked and here you

struggling and it sucked and here you

struggling and it sucked and here you are now right so I can’t I I obviously

are now right so I can’t I I obviously

are now right so I can’t I I obviously can’t tell the story for you cuz I

can’t tell the story for you cuz I

can’t tell the story for you cuz I didn’t notice

didn’t notice

didn’t notice I gotta have to find it out of you and

I gotta have to find it out of you and

I gotta have to find it out of you and if you could find a way as a salsa

if you could find a way as a salsa

if you could find a way as a salsa dancer to say it it almost it almost has

dancer to say it it almost it almost has

dancer to say it it almost it almost has thinking about a client I worked with

thinking about a client I worked with

thinking about a client I worked with long ago who was working was kind of a

long ago who was working was kind of a

long ago who was working was kind of a weight-loss product and we’re told a

weight-loss product and we’re told a

weight-loss product and we’re told a story about how the guy lost his

story about how the guy lost his

story about how the guy lost his girlfriend to some guy who was blatantly

girlfriend to some guy who was blatantly

girlfriend to some guy who was blatantly just like hot right and I had a

just like hot right and I had a

just like hot right and I had a beautiful six packing that was like

beautiful six packing that was like

beautiful six packing that was like where he was at right and so you could

where he was at right and so you could

where he was at right and so you could tell a story about how you Evan you know

tell a story about how you Evan you know

tell a story about how you Evan you know really your life got changed for salsa

really your life got changed for salsa

really your life got changed for salsa right and if you tell it in a way that

right and if you tell it in a way that

right and if you tell it in a way that the people feel like wow my life could

the people feel like wow my life could

the people feel like wow my life could change from salsa right I actually as

change from salsa right I actually as

change from salsa right I actually as you see that I you know cuz I do do that

you see that I you know cuz I do do that

you see that I you know cuz I do do that dance salsa reminds me of a friend of

dance salsa reminds me of a friend of

dance salsa reminds me of a friend of mine who salsa to her was almost like

mine who salsa to her was almost like

mine who salsa to her was almost like therapy right so she was a survivor of a

therapy right so she was a survivor of a

therapy right so she was a survivor of a lot of abuse but I’m not really sure

lot of abuse but I’m not really sure

lot of abuse but I’m not really sure what kind of abuse but it was a very

what kind of abuse but it was a very

what kind of abuse but it was a very traumatic past that she came from and so

traumatic past that she came from and so

traumatic past that she came from and so she had no confidence

she had no confidence

she had no confidence she stayed alone at home and then she

she stayed alone at home and then she

she stayed alone at home and then she started doing salsa and not only did she

started doing salsa and not only did she

started doing salsa and not only did she get better but she had all of these

get better but she had all of these

get better but she had all of these friends and that’s what salsa did for

friends and that’s what salsa did for

friends and that’s what salsa did for her so that’s kind of like an example

her so that’s kind of like an example

her so that’s kind of like an example just look that’s off of my head cool so

just look that’s off of my head cool so

just look that’s off of my head cool so do you recommend that entrepreneurs then

do you recommend that entrepreneurs then

do you recommend that entrepreneurs then tell their own story or tell other

tell their own story or tell other

tell their own story or tell other people’s stories or client stories or

people’s stories or client stories or

people’s stories or client stories or mixture of both and and how do you

mixture of both and and how do you

mixture of both and and how do you prioritize you know you got your home

prioritize you know you got your home

prioritize you know you got your home page most important thing has to go

page most important thing has to go

page most important thing has to go there

there

there yeah the easiest but but how do you

yeah the easiest but but how do you

yeah the easiest but but how do you prioritize what to put up okay so this

prioritize what to put up okay so this

prioritize what to put up okay so this is very um there are different places

is very um there are different places

is very um there are different places and ways you want to speak to your

and ways you want to speak to your

and ways you want to speak to your customer across different mediums so now

customer across different mediums so now

customer across different mediums so now we’re talking about a website we could

we’re talking about a website we could

we’re talking about a website we could be talking about a sales page for like a

be talking about a sales page for like a

be talking about a sales page for like a higher-end product we could be talking

higher-end product we could be talking

higher-end product we could be talking about an email funnel right and um you

about an email funnel right and um you

about an email funnel right and um you know your story for your sales page

know your story for your sales page

know your story for your sales page could be really just a summary of the

could be really just a summary of the

could be really just a summary of the longer story right it could be you

longer story right it could be you

longer story right it could be you I have a you know III teach success tips

I have a you know III teach success tips

I have a you know III teach success tips and I used to stand in line at the you

and I used to stand in line at the you

and I used to stand in line at the you know the food bank to get groceries and

know the food bank to get groceries and

know the food bank to get groceries and now here I am and I you know have the

now here I am and I you know have the

now here I am and I you know have the lifestyle lifestyle I choose and I can

lifestyle lifestyle I choose and I can

lifestyle lifestyle I choose and I can do something and that could be the whole

do something and that could be the whole

do something and that could be the whole story it could be just an introductory

story it could be just an introductory

story it could be just an introductory video and you don’t even have to go into

video and you don’t even have to go into

video and you don’t even have to go into the long details because maybe you might

the long details because maybe you might

the long details because maybe you might save that for something like a more

save that for something like a more

save that for something like a more in-depth product right so you could say

in-depth product right so you could say

in-depth product right so you could say hi my name is Evan Carmichael and

hi my name is Evan Carmichael and

hi my name is Evan Carmichael and welcome to my website on this website I

welcome to my website on this website I

welcome to my website on this website I teach people about how to grow their

teach people about how to grow their

teach people about how to grow their businesses and how to make it from

businesses and how to make it from

businesses and how to make it from scratch all the way to success whatever

scratch all the way to success whatever

scratch all the way to success whatever that means for you I myself came from a

that means for you I myself came from a

that means for you I myself came from a place where not too long ago I was just

place where not too long ago I was just

place where not too long ago I was just like you I was struggling trying to find

like you I was struggling trying to find

like you I was struggling trying to find my way I was just 19 and I couldn’t I

my way I was just 19 and I couldn’t I

my way I was just 19 and I couldn’t I could barely get my bills paid I had to

could barely get my bills paid I had to

could barely get my bills paid I had to work 80 hours a week just to survive it

work 80 hours a week just to survive it

work 80 hours a week just to survive it was struggle after struggle and trial

was struggle after struggle and trial

was struggle after struggle and trial and tribulation a lot of people can

and tribulation a lot of people can

and tribulation a lot of people can really relate to this fight because we

really relate to this fight because we

really relate to this fight because we had been there I mean but I was probably

had been there I mean but I was probably

had been there I mean but I was probably closer to that lifestyle back when I

closer to that lifestyle back when I

closer to that lifestyle back when I spoke to you years ago but anyway and

spoke to you years ago but anyway and

spoke to you years ago but anyway and Here I am now I have a YouTube channel

Here I am now I have a YouTube channel

Here I am now I have a YouTube channel with 250 subscribers I have a website

with 250 subscribers I have a website

with 250 subscribers I have a website with a million people a month or

with a million people a month or

with a million people a month or whatever I have a an email list with

whatever I have a an email list with

whatever I have a an email list with honey I don’t know how I don’t know what

honey I don’t know how I don’t know what

honey I don’t know how I don’t know what you know and I learned a lot of things

you know and I learned a lot of things

you know and I learned a lot of things along the way and this is what I want to

along the way and this is what I want to

along the way and this is what I want to teach you please join my email list and

teach you please join my email list and

teach you please join my email list and we’ll talk or join my list and I’ll give

we’ll talk or join my list and I’ll give

we’ll talk or join my list and I’ll give you that the first step and whatever the

you that the first step and whatever the

you that the first step and whatever the first step is I don’t know

first step is I don’t know

first step is I don’t know cool um so we got some live questions

cool um so we got some live questions

cool um so we got some live questions coming in Timor is asking I pronounce

coming in Timor is asking I pronounce

coming in Timor is asking I pronounce that okay where’s the line between

that okay where’s the line between

that okay where’s the line between strict formal and down-to-earth

strict formal and down-to-earth

strict formal and down-to-earth copywriting okay oh I love that question

copywriting okay oh I love that question

copywriting okay oh I love that question because it’s probably the download the

because it’s probably the download the

because it’s probably the download the list of like the third filter that I

list of like the third filter that I

list of like the third filter that I look at copy from is is this

look at copy from is is this

look at copy from is is this stiff and not well I’ll tell you

stiff and not well I’ll tell you

stiff and not well I’ll tell you actually the simple the the the way that

actually the simple the the the way that

actually the simple the the the way that I would put it is I would reflect back

I would put it is I would reflect back

I would put it is I would reflect back to the customer the language that they

to the customer the language that they

to the customer the language that they themselves use okay and that’s not an

themselves use okay and that’s not an

themselves use okay and that’s not an easy thing to do like if you are not in

easy thing to do like if you are not in

easy thing to do like if you are not in touch with their customers so the the

touch with their customers so the the

touch with their customers so the the the answer to your question is figure

the answer to your question is figure

the answer to your question is figure get in touch with your customers which

get in touch with your customers which

get in touch with your customers which by itself is something that I would be

by itself is something that I would be

by itself is something that I would be happy to really give you some good

happy to really give you some good

happy to really give you some good insight on but reflect your cut reflect

insight on but reflect your cut reflect

insight on but reflect your cut reflect the language of your customer so if your

the language of your customer so if your

the language of your customer so if your customer is you know a blue-collar

customer is you know a blue-collar

customer is you know a blue-collar worker and they typically say howdy

worker and they typically say howdy

worker and they typically say howdy right maybe you want to greet them like

right maybe you want to greet them like

right maybe you want to greet them like howdy I remembered this internet

howdy I remembered this internet

howdy I remembered this internet marketer who you know they always signed

marketer who you know they always signed

marketer who you know they always signed off as cousin whatever the name was

off as cousin whatever the name was

off as cousin whatever the name was right hey see you later from cousin Andy

right hey see you later from cousin Andy

right hey see you later from cousin Andy or whatever the name was right and it’s

or whatever the name was right and it’s

or whatever the name was right and it’s like you want to reflect the language of

like you want to reflect the language of

like you want to reflect the language of your customer and you don’t want to go

your customer and you don’t want to go

your customer and you don’t want to go above up a little bit so if your

above up a little bit so if your

above up a little bit so if your customer is a venture capitalist and

customer is a venture capitalist and

customer is a venture capitalist and they speak with a lot of jargon and

they speak with a lot of jargon and

they speak with a lot of jargon and that’s their world I still want to I

that’s their world I still want to I

that’s their world I still want to I select it err on the side of simple

select it err on the side of simple

select it err on the side of simple simplistic language because at the end

simplistic language because at the end

simplistic language because at the end of the day that simple language works

of the day that simple language works

of the day that simple language works but reflect the language of the customer

but reflect the language of the customer

but reflect the language of the customer yeah I think that too that too it’s also

yeah I think that too that too it’s also

yeah I think that too that too it’s also who you are and still answer anyway

who you are and still answer anyway

who you are and still answer anyway right like like if I’m trying to sell to

right like like if I’m trying to sell to

right like like if I’m trying to sell to somebody who is really formal and then I

somebody who is really formal and then I

somebody who is really formal and then I get really formal and then they look at

get really formal and then they look at

get really formal and then they look at my other stuff that’s not formal there’s

my other stuff that’s not formal there’s

my other stuff that’s not formal there’s gonna be a huge rise connect and so

gonna be a huge rise connect and so

gonna be a huge rise connect and so matching both like understand who your

matching both like understand who your

matching both like understand who your customers are and how they speak and how

customers are and how they speak and how

customers are and how they speak and how they want to be connected to and then

they want to be connected to and then

they want to be connected to and then also take that information do

also take that information do

also take that information do something’s congruent with who you are

something’s congruent with who you are

something’s congruent with who you are so that you feel comfortable and natural

so that you feel comfortable and natural

so that you feel comfortable and natural especially if you end up doing like

especially if you end up doing like

especially if you end up doing like video and or interviews where you have

video and or interviews where you have

video and or interviews where you have to you know it’d be hard for me to go

to you know it’d be hard for me to go

to you know it’d be hard for me to go and do a video like I’m rocking a hat

and do a video like I’m rocking a hat

and do a video like I’m rocking a hat and the hoodie you know like yeah you

and the hoodie you know like yeah you

and the hoodie you know like yeah you know like you gotta put me in the tuxedo

know like you gotta put me in the tuxedo

know like you gotta put me in the tuxedo and like you got to be very formal you

and like you got to be very formal you

and like you got to be very formal you can’t see yeah yeah let be rough for me

can’t see yeah yeah let be rough for me

can’t see yeah yeah let be rough for me that yeah I mean I remember I went I was

that yeah I mean I remember I went I was

that yeah I mean I remember I went I was giving out an award in an event

giving out an award in an event

giving out an award in an event I I it was a black-tie thing and I

I I it was a black-tie thing and I

I I it was a black-tie thing and I showed up with my hoodie dress pants

showed up with my hoodie dress pants

showed up with my hoodie dress pants dress pants but my honey man that’s you

dress pants but my honey man that’s you

dress pants but my honey man that’s you know they can kick me out if they want

know they can kick me out if they want

know they can kick me out if they want but I’m being here too so I think I

but I’m being here too so I think I

but I’m being here too so I think I think it’s both I think it’s like

think it’s both I think it’s like

think it’s both I think it’s like matching you the customer then also

matching you the customer then also

matching you the customer then also thinking about who you are as a person

thinking about who you are as a person

thinking about who you are as a person making that congruent I think I think

making that congruent I think I think

making that congruent I think I think I’ll wait to marry that by the way is is

I’ll wait to marry that by the way is is

I’ll wait to marry that by the way is is like you know the people who you’re

like you know the people who you’re

like you know the people who you’re talking to I’m kind of assuming that you

talking to I’m kind of assuming that you

talking to I’m kind of assuming that you kind of you know you look like on some

kind of you know you look like on some

kind of you know you look like on some level you got to relate to them and they

level you got to relate to them and they

level you got to relate to them and they got a relate to you you know I’m saying

got a relate to you you know I’m saying

got a relate to you you know I’m saying so if you are trying to speak to an

so if you are trying to speak to an

so if you are trying to speak to an audience that you you don’t know then it

audience that you you don’t know then it

audience that you you don’t know then it really makes things hard so yeah okay

really makes things hard so yeah okay

really makes things hard so yeah okay ket Kumar wants to make his own YouTube

ket Kumar wants to make his own YouTube

ket Kumar wants to make his own YouTube channel do you have guidance tips advice

channel do you have guidance tips advice

channel do you have guidance tips advice and then I guess maybe from like a

and then I guess maybe from like a

and then I guess maybe from like a copyright in perspective yeah what do

copyright in perspective yeah what do

copyright in perspective yeah what do you think in terms of making videos okay

you think in terms of making videos okay

you think in terms of making videos okay that’s I you know what that that is

that’s I you know what that that is

that’s I you know what that that is something that I can give you a good a

something that I can give you a good a

something that I can give you a good a copywriters perspective so the first

copywriters perspective so the first

copywriters perspective so the first thing you want to do is what are you

thing you want to do is what are you

thing you want to do is what are you about like what like if I give you four

about like what like if I give you four

about like what like if I give you four seconds three seconds can you see can

seconds three seconds can you see can

seconds three seconds can you see can you distill your message down to that

you distill your message down to that

you distill your message down to that can you distill your message down to

can you distill your message down to

can you distill your message down to essentially one sentence and marketing

essentially one sentence and marketing

essentially one sentence and marketing speak that’s called an elevator pitch

speak that’s called an elevator pitch

speak that’s called an elevator pitch okay so it’s actually one of the things

okay so it’s actually one of the things

okay so it’s actually one of the things that I integrate into every form of

that I integrate into every form of

that I integrate into every form of marketing every form of copy that I

marketing every form of copy that I

marketing every form of copy that I write is a every form of copy I write is

write is a every form of copy I write is

write is a every form of copy I write is like it’s an elevator pitch right so how

like it’s an elevator pitch right so how

like it’s an elevator pitch right so how you do that is you gotta say this is who

you do that is you gotta say this is who

you do that is you gotta say this is who I am and this is this is who I help and

I am and this is this is who I help and

I am and this is this is who I help and this is how I help them right so if you

this is how I help them right so if you

this is how I help them right so if you are you know I don’t know if he can

are you know I don’t know if he can

are you know I don’t know if he can communicate with watch what it is that

communicate with watch what it is that

communicate with watch what it is that she specifically does is she there uh

she specifically does is she there uh

she specifically does is she there uh you can you know

you can you know

you can you know cat if you want to add more in the

cat if you want to add more in the

cat if you want to add more in the comments I’ll try to keep my eye out for

comments I’ll try to keep my eye out for

comments I’ll try to keep my eye out for it but I get three sick a little bit

it but I get three sick a little bit

it but I get three sick a little bit okay that’s cool she’s up if if you’re

okay that’s cool she’s up if if you’re

okay that’s cool she’s up if if you’re into interior decorating you get to see

into interior decorating you get to see

into interior decorating you get to see you you want to say hey this is who I

you you want to say hey this is who I

you you want to say hey this is who I help this is how I help them this does a

help this is how I help them this does a

help this is how I help them this does a couple of things right this immediately

couple of things right this immediately

couple of things right this immediately lets everybody know who’s included and

lets everybody know who’s included and

lets everybody know who’s included and excluded from from the discussion and it

excluded from from the discussion and it

excluded from from the discussion and it immediately gives people a reason to

want to communicate with it immediately

want to communicate with it immediately gives the the audience a kind of a

gives the the audience a kind of a

gives the the audience a kind of a conversation point that says hey this is

conversation point that says hey this is

conversation point that says hey this is what we’re about and we connect together

what we’re about and we connect together

what we’re about and we connect together because you helped me get this right so

because you helped me get this right so

because you helped me get this right so if I said for example off the top of my

if I said for example off the top of my

if I said for example off the top of my head I help business owners get clear

head I help business owners get clear

head I help business owners get clear powerful and profitable communication

powerful and profitable communication

powerful and profitable communication that’s what my unique selling

that’s what my unique selling

that’s what my unique selling proposition might be and then I can

proposition might be and then I can

proposition might be and then I can brand around my unique selling

brand around my unique selling

brand around my unique selling proposition so everything that your

proposition so everything that your

proposition so everything that your brand becomes kind of embodies and like

brand becomes kind of embodies and like

brand becomes kind of embodies and like kind of personifies what your unique

kind of personifies what your unique

kind of personifies what your unique proposition what your elevator pitch is

proposition what your elevator pitch is

proposition what your elevator pitch is so if you can say I help X person do Y

so if you can say I help X person do Y

so if you can say I help X person do Y thing then you can kind of say oh I’m

thing then you can kind of say oh I’m

thing then you can kind of say oh I’m the so-and-so person right I’m the you

the so-and-so person right I’m the you

the so-and-so person right I’m the you know Evan Carmichael’s believe that’s

know Evan Carmichael’s believe that’s

know Evan Carmichael’s believe that’s his brand right because he helps

his brand right because he helps

his brand right because he helps entrepreneurs believe and achieve and

entrepreneurs believe and achieve and

entrepreneurs believe and achieve and succeed in what what it is that they’re

succeed in what what it is that they’re

succeed in what what it is that they’re trying to do like I’m making a PSP right

trying to do like I’m making a PSP right

trying to do like I’m making a PSP right now but in a sense that’s kind of what

now but in a sense that’s kind of what

now but in a sense that’s kind of what it is right

it is right

it is right you’re his brand is kind of like a

you’re his brand is kind of like a

you’re his brand is kind of like a metaphor for his unique selling

metaphor for his unique selling

metaphor for his unique selling proposition so you want to create a

proposition so you want to create a

proposition so you want to create a brand but you want to create it based on

brand but you want to create it based on

brand but you want to create it based on a very clear premise and then from there

a very clear premise and then from there

a very clear premise and then from there everything reflects back to that core

everything reflects back to that core

everything reflects back to that core message yeah for me if you’re starting a

message yeah for me if you’re starting a

message yeah for me if you’re starting a YouTube channel so you mean you click a

YouTube channel so you mean you click a

YouTube channel so you mean you click a mine we have 200 something thousand

mine we have 200 something thousand

mine we have 200 something thousand subscribers almost three hundred one the

subscribers almost three hundred one the

subscribers almost three hundred one the foundation store is super important I

foundation store is super important I

foundation store is super important I mean Anton touched on this before

mean Anton touched on this before

mean Anton touched on this before talking about your story I remember when

talking about your story I remember when

talking about your story I remember when I was working with my agent to work on

I was working with my agent to work on

I was working with my agent to work on my

my

my story I did it 20 30 times and you kept

story I did it 20 30 times and you kept

story I did it 20 30 times and you kept making me redo it and redo it and redo

making me redo it and redo it and redo

making me redo it and redo it and redo it until I had it down so super

it until I had it down so super

it until I had it down so super important and then also from I mean I

important and then also from I mean I

important and then also from I mean I guess back to the topic of this video

guess back to the topic of this video

guess back to the topic of this video about creating copy that sells in

about creating copy that sells in

about creating copy that sells in YouTube the title is super important and

YouTube the title is super important and

YouTube the title is super important and the thumbnail is also super important

the thumbnail is also super important

the thumbnail is also super important right so in somebody’s searching like

right so in somebody’s searching like

right so in somebody’s searching like you’re gonna look at the picture before

you’re gonna look at the picture before

you’re gonna look at the picture before you’re gonna look at the the copy but

you’re gonna look at the the copy but

you’re gonna look at the the copy but still is important so you know when when

still is important so you know when when

still is important so you know when when aunt and I were making this session I

aunt and I were making this session I

aunt and I were making this session I said hey anthem what do you want to call

said hey anthem what do you want to call

said hey anthem what do you want to call this session right what are we going to

this session right what are we going to

this session right what are we going to title it what’s the name because it’s

title it what’s the name because it’s

title it what’s the name because it’s important right I want to reflect what

important right I want to reflect what

important right I want to reflect what he thought it was about but also to have

he thought it was about but also to have

he thought it was about but also to have a name that would attract attention and

a name that would attract attention and

a name that would attract attention and so if you look at any search term the

so if you look at any search term the

so if you look at any search term the videos that show up and that do well are

videos that show up and that do well are

videos that show up and that do well are not just the ones that have the search

not just the ones that have the search

not just the ones that have the search term in it it’s not just like a stuffing

term in it it’s not just like a stuffing

term in it it’s not just like a stuffing of search terms it’s the ones that have

of search terms it’s the ones that have

of search terms it’s the ones that have a powerful message and a powerful

a powerful message and a powerful

a powerful message and a powerful thumbnail around that topic so

thumbnail around that topic so

thumbnail around that topic so everything Anton said plus honestly is

everything Anton said plus honestly is

everything Anton said plus honestly is funny I love how you were just like I

funny I love how you were just like I

funny I love how you were just like I went on the big macro brand yourself and

went on the big macro brand yourself and

went on the big macro brand yourself and then ya write a headline that you know

then ya write a headline that you know

then ya write a headline that you know that that immediately you know draws an

that that immediately you know draws an

that that immediately you know draws an attention give somebody a good reason to

attention give somebody a good reason to

attention give somebody a good reason to want to click your videos right and

want to click your videos right and

want to click your videos right and videos headlines just like a quick off

videos headlines just like a quick off

videos headlines just like a quick off the top of my head a good headline

the top of my head a good headline

the top of my head a good headline should offer something valuable it

should offer something valuable it

should offer something valuable it should be specific so don’t say how to

should be specific so don’t say how to

should be specific so don’t say how to make more money it could be how to you

make more money it could be how to you

make more money it could be how to you know save 20% on a restaurant tips or

know save 20% on a restaurant tips or

know save 20% on a restaurant tips or whatever I don’t know it could be

whatever I don’t know it could be

whatever I don’t know it could be something that sparks curiosity that

something that sparks curiosity that

something that sparks curiosity that type of thing so I’ll land the plane on

type of thing so I’ll land the plane on

type of thing so I’ll land the plane on that one

that one

that one cool so I mean it’s both it’s the big

cool so I mean it’s both it’s the big

cool so I mean it’s both it’s the big picture and in the tactical things I

picture and in the tactical things I

picture and in the tactical things I like it um Ricardo is asking about our

like it um Ricardo is asking about our

like it um Ricardo is asking about our thoughts on applying this to network

thoughts on applying this to network

thoughts on applying this to network marketing how would you apply Network

marketing how would you apply Network

marketing how would you apply Network yeah okay let me think about

yeah okay let me think about

yeah okay let me think about example uh just a client that I I did a

example uh just a client that I I did a

example uh just a client that I I did a direct mail letter I don’t know I don’t

direct mail letter I don’t know I don’t

direct mail letter I don’t know I don’t know how does he Network for his network

know how does he Network for his network

know how does he Network for his network marketing is what I my first question I

marketing is what I my first question I

marketing is what I my first question I would say that I don’t know if your car

would say that I don’t know if your car

would say that I don’t know if your car is gonna respond so I’m just gonna

is gonna respond so I’m just gonna

is gonna respond so I’m just gonna hypothesize so you know I I just I just

hypothesize so you know I I just I just

hypothesize so you know I I just I just wrote a direct mail letter last week for

wrote a direct mail letter last week for

wrote a direct mail letter last week for not a network marketer but an insurance

not a network marketer but an insurance

not a network marketer but an insurance guy okay so this insurance guy is trying

guy okay so this insurance guy is trying

guy okay so this insurance guy is trying to sell a service right and instead of

to sell a service right and instead of

to sell a service right and instead of saying hey I can help you save more

saying hey I can help you save more

saying hey I can help you save more money on your insurance and this is like

money on your insurance and this is like

money on your insurance and this is like a letter going out to people in the mail

a letter going out to people in the mail

a letter going out to people in the mail and this guy happened to sell very very

and this guy happened to sell very very

and this guy happened to sell very very very high insurance so basically sells

very high insurance so basically sells

very high insurance so basically sells to the board members of condominium

to the board members of condominium

to the board members of condominium associations it’s like talk about

associations it’s like talk about

associations it’s like talk about someone who doesn’t want to be spammed

someone who doesn’t want to be spammed

someone who doesn’t want to be spammed at write someone who doesn’t want to

at write someone who doesn’t want to

at write someone who doesn’t want to deal with a lot of pesky buzzards and

deal with a lot of pesky buzzards and

deal with a lot of pesky buzzards and that type of thing right well we in that

that type of thing right well we in that

that type of thing right well we in that letter we were just like a one-page

letter we were just like a one-page

letter we were just like a one-page letter and the letter was actually

letter and the letter was actually

letter and the letter was actually formatted so that when it gets printed

formatted so that when it gets printed

formatted so that when it gets printed out it’s basically a handwritten letter

out it’s basically a handwritten letter

out it’s basically a handwritten letter so it’s really personal and that tells a

so it’s really personal and that tells a

so it’s really personal and that tells a personal story about one of his

personal story about one of his

personal story about one of his customers who they what happened they

customers who they what happened they

customers who they what happened they got his granddaughter got fell and

got his granddaughter got fell and

got his granddaughter got fell and bumped her head and how that related to

bumped her head and how that related to

bumped her head and how that related to his to get buying insurance for the or

his to get buying insurance for the or

his to get buying insurance for the or getting the right kind of insurance for

getting the right kind of insurance for

getting the right kind of insurance for condominium associations right so you

condominium associations right so you

condominium associations right so you you know you you’re still using the

you know you you’re still using the

you know you you’re still using the power of telling stories you’re still

power of telling stories you’re still

power of telling stories you’re still using that specific language you’re

using that specific language you’re

using that specific language you’re being benefit oriented all the nice

being benefit oriented all the nice

being benefit oriented all the nice short stories like one example situation

short stories like one example situation

short stories like one example situation I look at network marketing and I think

I look at network marketing and I think

I look at network marketing and I think most people get in it for the wrong

most people get in it for the wrong

most people get in it for the wrong reasons I think most people see if it’s

reasons I think most people see if it’s

reasons I think most people see if it’s as an income opportunity and have not

as an income opportunity and have not

as an income opportunity and have not attached to the product I think the big

attached to the product I think the big

attached to the product I think the big thing that we’re marketing is you have

thing that we’re marketing is you have

thing that we’re marketing is you have to tell your story as to why this works

to tell your story as to why this works

to tell your story as to why this works like for you have it something that you

like for you have it something that you

like for you have it something that you would proudly recommend you

would proudly recommend you

would proudly recommend you mother using because you believe in it

mother using because you believe in it

mother using because you believe in it so much and so there are some people who

so much and so there are some people who

so much and so there are some people who are highly successful network marketing

are highly successful network marketing

are highly successful network marketing but I think I think it gets a bad rap

but I think I think it gets a bad rap

but I think I think it gets a bad rap because of all the people get in just

because of all the people get in just

because of all the people get in just trying to make money at it and then you

trying to make money at it and then you

trying to make money at it and then you look at their about page and it’s

look at their about page and it’s

look at their about page and it’s terrible it’s just a stock about page it

terrible it’s just a stock about page it

terrible it’s just a stock about page it was given by the north marketing company

was given by the north marketing company

was given by the north marketing company they don’t have their picture on there

they don’t have their picture on there

they don’t have their picture on there they don’t their story on there and I

they don’t their story on there and I

they don’t their story on there and I think the thing that makes you stand out

think the thing that makes you stand out

think the thing that makes you stand out is how you actually use and love the

is how you actually use and love the

is how you actually use and love the products and services that you’re

products and services that you’re

products and services that you’re selling back to our original point about

selling back to our original point about

selling back to our original point about telling a powerful story around it like

telling a powerful story around it like

telling a powerful story around it like if you are not using it and you can’t

if you are not using it and you can’t

if you are not using it and you can’t talk about the benefits personally

talk about the benefits personally

talk about the benefits personally around it then you’re not gonna have

around it then you’re not gonna have

around it then you’re not gonna have success in any business network

success in any business network

success in any business network marketing I just think too many people

marketing I just think too many people

marketing I just think too many people when you’re you’re when you’re an

when you’re you’re when you’re an

when you’re you’re when you’re an entrepreneur you create a product or

entrepreneur you create a product or

entrepreneur you create a product or service you’re emotionally attached to

service you’re emotionally attached to

service you’re emotionally attached to it where a lot of times in network

it where a lot of times in network

it where a lot of times in network marketing people join and they don’t

marketing people join and they don’t

marketing people join and they don’t really care about the product you trying

really care about the product you trying

really care about the product you trying to make money and that’s when you fail

to make money and that’s when you fail

to make money and that’s when you fail out I like to comment on what you just

out I like to comment on what you just

out I like to comment on what you just said I think that what you said what

said I think that what you said what

said I think that what you said what what I hear when you say that is

what I hear when you say that is

what I hear when you say that is actually if you’re doing network

actually if you’re doing network

actually if you’re doing network marketing well why do I want to buy from

marketing well why do I want to buy from

marketing well why do I want to buy from you specifically well the one way you

you specifically well the one way you

you specifically well the one way you can differentiate yourself and make your

can differentiate yourself and make your

can differentiate yourself and make your product completely unique is to say is

product completely unique is to say is

product completely unique is to say is to show how your product benefits you

to show how your product benefits you

to show how your product benefits you personally so I really you know I’m

personally so I really you know I’m

personally so I really you know I’m echoing back what Kevin just said cool

echoing back what Kevin just said cool

echoing back what Kevin just said cool miles is right in

miles is right in

miles is right in what’s the statue next to you Evan this

what’s the statue next to you Evan this

what’s the statue next to you Evan this is Guan Yu from a book called three

is Guan Yu from a book called three

is Guan Yu from a book called three kingdoms it’s one of the most read books

kingdoms it’s one of the most read books

kingdoms it’s one of the most read books in Chinese history you go check it out

in Chinese history you go check it out

in Chinese history you go check it out he’s one of the Warriors is a God in

he’s one of the Warriors is a God in

he’s one of the Warriors is a God in China there’s a whole story behind that

China there’s a whole story behind that

China there’s a whole story behind that we don’t need to get into it here but

we don’t need to get into it here but

we don’t need to get into it here but we’ll just leave it on the curious note

we’ll just leave it on the curious note

we’ll just leave it on the curious note you can go look up long a new fortune is

you can go look up long a new fortune is

you can go look up long a new fortune is writing is writing in what does Anton

writing is writing in what does Anton

writing is writing in what does Anton charge for copywriting we do web design

charge for copywriting we do web design

charge for copywriting we do web design and are always looking to add more value

and are always looking to add more value

and are always looking to add more value to our clients web projects you can

to our clients web projects you can

to our clients web projects you can check my website there’ll be a link to

check my website there’ll be a link to

check my website there’ll be a link to that in the description of this video of

that in the description of this video of

that in the description of this video of probably any of these videos if they’re

probably any of these videos if they’re

probably any of these videos if they’re small ones so gotta lead you there cool

small ones so gotta lead you there cool

small ones so gotta lead you there cool yeah the link

yeah the link

yeah the link site is their team wars writing in but i

site is their team wars writing in but i

site is their team wars writing in but i want to become a copywriter topic was

want to become a copywriter topic was

want to become a copywriter topic was you don’t need to hire copywriter

you don’t need to hire copywriter

you don’t need to hire copywriter he wants to become sure so so what

he wants to become sure so so what

he wants to become sure so so what advice do you have for him who wants to

advice do you have for him who wants to

advice do you have for him who wants to become a copywriter okay good question

become a copywriter okay good question

become a copywriter okay good question super good question um my first up I’m

super good question um my first up I’m

super good question um my first up I’m gonna break it down into a couple of

gonna break it down into a couple of

gonna break it down into a couple of things first you got to know the craft

things first you got to know the craft

things first you got to know the craft really well so you want to learn you

really well so you want to learn you

really well so you want to learn you want to read you want to practice then

want to read you want to practice then

want to read you want to practice then you want to get samples okay

you want to get samples okay

you want to get samples okay read practice samples I’m glossing over

read practice samples I’m glossing over

read practice samples I’m glossing over this really you know quickly but until

this really you know quickly but until

this really you know quickly but until you have a basic skill set you are a

you have a basic skill set you are a

you have a basic skill set you are a liability to yourself and your customer

liability to yourself and your customer

liability to yourself and your customer okay when you have you know just a

okay when you have you know just a

okay when you have you know just a little bit of practice you don’t spend

little bit of practice you don’t spend

little bit of practice you don’t spend too much time some people spend too much

too much time some people spend too much

too much time some people spend too much time you know practicing I did they

time you know practicing I did they

time you know practicing I did they don’t spend enough time doing like

don’t spend enough time doing like

don’t spend enough time doing like getting out there then you want to get

getting out there then you want to get

getting out there then you want to get out there I’m gonna give you a simple

out there I’m gonna give you a simple

out there I’m gonna give you a simple quick quick way to do that

quick quick way to do that

quick quick way to do that get in your email inbox get just kind of

get in your email inbox get just kind of

get in your email inbox get just kind of figure out all the people who you like

figure out all the people who you like

figure out all the people who you like and follow in your subscriptions and

and follow in your subscriptions and

and follow in your subscriptions and those are people who you’ve been

those are people who you’ve been

those are people who you’ve been studying their product for a long time

studying their product for a long time

studying their product for a long time you’ve had you interacted with their

you’ve had you interacted with their

you’ve had you interacted with their product if you have no experience you

product if you have no experience you

product if you have no experience you can make a list if you have a hundred

can make a list if you have a hundred

can make a list if you have a hundred people that you subscribe to just reach

people that you subscribe to just reach

people that you subscribe to just reach out to all of them and say hey um I am a

out to all of them and say hey um I am a

out to all of them and say hey um I am a copywriter don’t undersell yourself be

copywriter don’t undersell yourself be

copywriter don’t undersell yourself be like I’m a beginner no you’re a

like I’m a beginner no you’re a

like I’m a beginner no you’re a copywriter you know I’m a copywriter I’m

copywriter you know I’m a copywriter I’m

copywriter you know I’m a copywriter I’m just going through your website and

just going through your website and

just going through your website and guess what I saw some stuff but I think

guess what I saw some stuff but I think

guess what I saw some stuff but I think I can help like I think I can improve if

I can help like I think I can improve if

I can help like I think I can improve if you want me to discuss that right there

you want me to discuss that right there

you want me to discuss that right there those three things will get your foot in

those three things will get your foot in

those three things will get your foot in the door I’m trying to think of how we

the door I’m trying to think of how we

the door I’m trying to think of how we first met

first met

first met to kind of give a example how did we

to kind of give a example how did we

to kind of give a example how did we first connect was it over the LinkedIn

first connect was it over the LinkedIn

first connect was it over the LinkedIn stuff I think you needed something you I

stuff I think you needed something you I

stuff I think you needed something you I think you found you put out a job

think you found you put out a job

think you found you put out a job somewhere I think it was on oDesk it was

somewhere I think it was on oDesk it was

somewhere I think it was on oDesk it was and and I think we kind of

and and I think we kind of

and and I think we kind of we came back we just like I think you’re

we came back we just like I think you’re

we came back we just like I think you’re really you’re unique in that we’ve kept

really you’re unique in that we’ve kept

really you’re unique in that we’ve kept in touch with vaguely over the years in

in touch with vaguely over the years in

in touch with vaguely over the years in the background yeah but I’m saying so

the background yeah but I’m saying so

the background yeah but I’m saying so you can also hit up some of the job

you can also hit up some of the job

you can also hit up some of the job posting websites like I think it’s up

posting websites like I think it’s up

posting websites like I think it’s up work is what it’s called now I didn’t

work is what it’s called now I didn’t

work is what it’s called now I didn’t mention that but it’s a worthwhile place

mention that but it’s a worthwhile place

mention that but it’s a worthwhile place to start I would recommend against

to start I would recommend against

to start I would recommend against lingering there based on the fact that

lingering there based on the fact that

lingering there based on the fact that you want to get more niche and more

you want to get more niche and more

you want to get more niche and more specialized to the people you service

specialized to the people you service

specialized to the people you service over time so you Lance is a great place

over time so you Lance is a great place

over time so you Lance is a great place to find some good people or up work I

to find some good people or up work I

to find some good people or up work I guess it’s also a great place to find a

guess it’s also a great place to find a

guess it’s also a great place to find a lot of nightmare clients so you want it

lot of nightmare clients so you want it

lot of nightmare clients so you want it you want you can get in there to get a

you want you can get in there to get a

you want you can get in there to get a quick jump let’s just say so but I

quick jump let’s just say so but I

quick jump let’s just say so but I didn’t find it heaven was not hope I

didn’t find it heaven was not hope I

didn’t find it heaven was not hope I wasn’t nightmare I’m just thinking as an

wasn’t nightmare I’m just thinking as an

wasn’t nightmare I’m just thinking as an example for people who want to get more

example for people who want to get more

example for people who want to get more awareness of what they’re doing I mean

awareness of what they’re doing I mean

awareness of what they’re doing I mean we’re here doing a hangout you’re

we’re here doing a hangout you’re

we’re here doing a hangout you’re answering questions I’m introducing you

answering questions I’m introducing you

answering questions I’m introducing you to my audience I suggested it as an as

to my audience I suggested it as an as

to my audience I suggested it as an as an opportunity because you wrote to me I

an opportunity because you wrote to me I

an opportunity because you wrote to me I mean I haven’t heard from you in a year

mean I haven’t heard from you in a year

mean I haven’t heard from you in a year and so maybe more I miss that much yeah

and so maybe more I miss that much yeah

and so maybe more I miss that much yeah and you wrote to me kind of the blue and

and you wrote to me kind of the blue and

and you wrote to me kind of the blue and I said hey this is cool why don’t we why

I said hey this is cool why don’t we why

I said hey this is cool why don’t we why don’t we do it as a as an interview and

don’t we do it as a as an interview and

don’t we do it as a as an interview and let’s chat about it and sure give you a

let’s chat about it and sure give you a

let’s chat about it and sure give you a little more exposure to and help my

little more exposure to and help my

little more exposure to and help my audience that I so I think developing

audience that I so I think developing

audience that I so I think developing relationships to like if you could do

relationships to like if you could do

relationships to like if you could do something if you can find people so back

something if you can find people so back

something if you can find people so back to the question the teamwork if you can

to the question the teamwork if you can

to the question the teamwork if you can find people who are who are influencers

find people who are who are influencers

find people who are who are influencers in your space and work with them on

in your space and work with them on

in your space and work with them on something it was a small project even if

something it was a small project even if

something it was a small project even if it’s a spec project it was a free watch

it’s a spec project it was a free watch

it’s a spec project it was a free watch just to say oh I know who you are like

just to say oh I know who you are like

just to say oh I know who you are like you you’re on my radar now and maybe we

you you’re on my radar now and maybe we

you you’re on my radar now and maybe we end up doing something like this and

end up doing something like this and

end up doing something like this and then you get introduced to a lot of

then you get introduced to a lot of

then you get introduced to a lot of other people and you can use that person

other people and you can use that person

other people and you can use that person as a testimonial for your website hey

as a testimonial for your website hey

as a testimonial for your website hey this person really helped me so look at

this person really helped me so look at

this person really helped me so look at who you’re to Anton’s point about being

who you’re to Anton’s point about being

who you’re to Anton’s point about being niche and specialize like okay so you

niche and specialize like okay so you

niche and specialize like okay so you pick your niche who are the influencers

pick your niche who are the influencers

pick your niche who are the influencers in that niche that then you can help out

in that niche that then you can help out

in that niche that then you can help out whether it’s just

you know helping them with their like

you know helping them with their like Twitter bio right it doesn’t have to be

Twitter bio right it doesn’t have to be

Twitter bio right it doesn’t have to be a long sales letter or page just

a long sales letter or page just

a long sales letter or page just something quick and short that that can

something quick and short that that can

something quick and short that that can help them in and develop a relationship

help them in and develop a relationship

help them in and develop a relationship and that they like you know you trust

and that they like you know you trust

and that they like you know you trust you they may give you jobs but they may

you they may give you jobs but they may

you they may give you jobs but they may also refer you to other people so he’s

also refer you to other people so he’s

also refer you to other people so he’s writing in Anton thank you very much the

writing in Anton thank you very much the

writing in Anton thank you very much the advice I’ll absolutely do what you said

advice I’ll absolutely do what you said

advice I’ll absolutely do what you said so there you go this is a quick a quick

so there you go this is a quick a quick

so there you go this is a quick a quick a quick way to just like throw to boil

a quick way to just like throw to boil

a quick way to just like throw to boil it down present yourself to people who

it down present yourself to people who

it down present yourself to people who have influence without and offer them

have influence without and offer them

have influence without and offer them some good value that can be a guest post

some good value that can be a guest post

some good value that can be a guest post an interview that can be a critique of

an interview that can be a critique of

an interview that can be a critique of their website that’s a really great way

their website that’s a really great way

their website that’s a really great way to get hired by the way to just say hey

to get hired by the way to just say hey

to get hired by the way to just say hey oh man you’re really messing up on your

oh man you’re really messing up on your

oh man you’re really messing up on your website this is what I think you should

website this is what I think you should

website this is what I think you should do and a lot of people will be grateful

do and a lot of people will be grateful

do and a lot of people will be grateful for the free but valuable advice right

for the free but valuable advice right

for the free but valuable advice right but actually give value not just like

but actually give value not just like

but actually give value not just like hey you’re messing up on your website I

hey you’re messing up on your website I

hey you’re messing up on your website I can help you right because I get tons of

can help you right because I get tons of

can help you right because I get tons of those like you me say this guy knows

those like you me say this guy knows

those like you me say this guy knows what he’s talking about you know you

what he’s talking about you know you

what he’s talking about you know you don’t to give away the whole thing but

don’t to give away the whole thing but

don’t to give away the whole thing but give me a taste at least interested cool

give me a taste at least interested cool

give me a taste at least interested cool world well we’re already at time Anton I

world well we’re already at time Anton I

world well we’re already at time Anton I appreciate you coming on and spending

appreciate you coming on and spending

appreciate you coming on and spending time with us for people who there’s you

time with us for people who there’s you

time with us for people who there’s you know a lot of people have asked

know a lot of people have asked

know a lot of people have asked questions here that we haven’t gotten to

questions here that we haven’t gotten to

questions here that we haven’t gotten to so I’ve linked up ant on his website in

so I’ve linked up ant on his website in

so I’ve linked up ant on his website in the description and his Twitter account

the description and his Twitter account

the description and his Twitter account is in the title any message or quick

is in the title any message or quick

is in the title any message or quick thing you want to leave people with yes

thing you want to leave people with yes

thing you want to leave people with yes if anyone wants some some some free

if anyone wants some some some free

if anyone wants some some some free goodies I have I have an old from the

goodies I have I have an old from the

goodies I have I have an old from the archive vault of an interview with me

archive vault of an interview with me

archive vault of an interview with me interviewing with Evan and he is he gave

interviewing with Evan and he is he gave

interviewing with Evan and he is he gave some really good advice on how to build

some really good advice on how to build

some really good advice on how to build his business and that’s just right on my

his business and that’s just right on my

his business and that’s just right on my website so you can go into the

website so you can go into the

website so you can go into the description below to find that also I

description below to find that also I

description below to find that also I have a couple of really good goodies

have a couple of really good goodies

have a couple of really good goodies good stuff that anyone who is an

good stuff that anyone who is an

good stuff that anyone who is an entrepreneur might really love if they

entrepreneur might really love if they

entrepreneur might really love if they just visited that site so I’m also happy

just visited that site so I’m also happy

just visited that site so I’m also happy to answer any questions

to answer any questions

to answer any questions cool well I appreciate it anton thank

cool well I appreciate it anton thank

cool well I appreciate it anton thank you guys for watching

you guys for watching

you guys for watching have a great day guys and we’ll see you

have a great day guys and we’ll see you

have a great day guys and we’ll see you soon

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