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Founder Chat to INSPIRE Entrepreneurs ft. @FURMacademy


des x hello all right welcome everybody

des x hello all right welcome everybody we’ve got a whole bunch of people

we’ve got a whole bunch of people

we’ve got a whole bunch of people watching in the chat why don’t you

watching in the chat why don’t you

watching in the chat why don’t you quickly introduce yourself to us we are

quickly introduce yourself to us we are

quickly introduce yourself to us we are live and then we can get into your

live and then we can get into your

live and then we can get into your questions right hello everybody my name

questions right hello everybody my name

questions right hello everybody my name is Nate eleuthera and i’m calling from

is Nate eleuthera and i’m calling from

is Nate eleuthera and i’m calling from Auckland New Zealand today it’s a cold

Auckland New Zealand today it’s a cold

Auckland New Zealand today it’s a cold morning as looking at quarter past eight

morning as looking at quarter past eight

morning as looking at quarter past eight sorry for the delay earlier we’ve got

sorry for the delay earlier we’ve got

sorry for the delay earlier we’ve got some trouble with the Wi-Fi connection

some trouble with the Wi-Fi connection

some trouble with the Wi-Fi connection here so I’ve got that reasonably fixed i

here so I’ve got that reasonably fixed i

here so I’ve got that reasonably fixed i believe so hopefully we won’t get

believe so hopefully we won’t get

believe so hopefully we won’t get disconnected but it’s a pleasure to be

disconnected but it’s a pleasure to be

disconnected but it’s a pleasure to be here that’s pleasure to be speaking to

here that’s pleasure to be speaking to

here that’s pleasure to be speaking to the great Evan Carmichael and really

the great Evan Carmichael and really

the great Evan Carmichael and really looking forward to this chat cool man

looking forward to this chat cool man

looking forward to this chat cool man well just quick intro to what the

well just quick intro to what the

well just quick intro to what the founder chat concept is all about just

founder chat concept is all about just

founder chat concept is all about just from my my viewers to come on you’re

from my my viewers to come on you’re

from my my viewers to come on you’re saying and then and then your you know

saying and then and then your you know

saying and then and then your you know whatever questions you have fire away

whatever questions you have fire away

whatever questions you have fire away and let’s do it oh it’s fantastic so

and let’s do it oh it’s fantastic so

and let’s do it oh it’s fantastic so everybody i actually have launched firm

everybody i actually have launched firm

everybody i actually have launched firm academy which you can check out online

academy which you can check out online

academy which you can check out online WWF urm quetta me and within that run an

WWF urm quetta me and within that run an

WWF urm quetta me and within that run an online series a video-based series

online series a video-based series

online series a video-based series called founder chats and done some

called founder chats and done some

called founder chats and done some amazing interviews with some some

amazing interviews with some some

amazing interviews with some some like-minded entrepreneurs and founders

like-minded entrepreneurs and founders

like-minded entrepreneurs and founders with some really cool success stories to

with some really cool success stories to

with some really cool success stories to inspire as other aspiring entrepreneurs

inspire as other aspiring entrepreneurs

inspire as other aspiring entrepreneurs and founders out there including myself

and founders out there including myself

and founders out there including myself I always get inspired by these chats and

I always get inspired by these chats and

I always get inspired by these chats and so again this chat which I’m glued with

so again this chat which I’m glued with

so again this chat which I’m glued with evan is the first live chat I’ve

evan is the first live chat I’ve

evan is the first live chat I’ve actually ever done so I hope it goes

actually ever done so I hope it goes

actually ever done so I hope it goes well but i’m really looking for two

well but i’m really looking for two

well but i’m really looking for two again some really good quality learnings

again some really good quality learnings

again some really good quality learnings which is the key takeaway that we like

which is the key takeaway that we like

which is the key takeaway that we like to achieve from a founders chat session

to achieve from a founders chat session

to achieve from a founders chat session so that we can we can learn and grow

so that we can we can learn and grow

so that we can we can learn and grow from our experiences what time is it in

from our experiences what time is it in

from our experiences what time is it in New Zeeland right now oh so it’s 815 am

New Zeeland right now oh so it’s 815 am

New Zeeland right now oh so it’s 815 am in your future so the next morning okay

in your future so the next morning okay

in your future so the next morning okay that’s not that bad it looks dark and

that’s not that bad it looks dark and

that’s not that bad it looks dark and yeah I feeling like like it’s four in

yeah I feeling like like it’s four in

yeah I feeling like like it’s four in the morning or something and you are

the morning or something and you are

the morning or something and you are soon on and okay that’s not that bad ATM

soon on and okay that’s not that bad ATM

soon on and okay that’s not that bad ATM is not that bad okay let’s get into like

is not that bad okay let’s get into like

is not that bad okay let’s get into like yeah let’s do it what’s your what’s your

yeah let’s do it what’s your what’s your

yeah let’s do it what’s your what’s your first question yeah sure look

first question yeah sure look

first question yeah sure look let’s start with you know even I’ve been

let’s start with you know even I’ve been

let’s start with you know even I’ve been following your stuff for for a few years

following your stuff for for a few years

following your stuff for for a few years actually and really love the emails that

actually and really love the emails that

actually and really love the emails that come through and the stories that you

come through and the stories that you

come through and the stories that you share the videos about other inspiring

share the videos about other inspiring

share the videos about other inspiring entrepreneurs so you know put together

entrepreneurs so you know put together

entrepreneurs so you know put together some really good quality questions but

some really good quality questions but

some really good quality questions but let’s I’d love to just start with your

let’s I’d love to just start with your

let’s I’d love to just start with your view on community building the concept

view on community building the concept

view on community building the concept of community building today’s generation

of community building today’s generation

of community building today’s generation because really is it’s almost like it’s

because really is it’s almost like it’s

because really is it’s almost like it’s one hundred percent online nowadays so

one hundred percent online nowadays so

one hundred percent online nowadays so that’s YouTube community building or

that’s YouTube community building or

that’s YouTube community building or social media community building and just

social media community building and just

social media community building and just being able to do that from scratch you

being able to do that from scratch you

being able to do that from scratch you know and working up the courage to do

know and working up the courage to do

know and working up the courage to do that and also some strategies on how you

that and also some strategies on how you

that and also some strategies on how you can do that effectively because it can

can do that effectively because it can

can do that effectively because it can get frustrating sometimes when you don’t

get frustrating sometimes when you don’t

get frustrating sometimes when you don’t see traction yeah I think so cuz it’s a

see traction yeah I think so cuz it’s a

see traction yeah I think so cuz it’s a lot there I think first you have to care

lot there I think first you have to care

lot there I think first you have to care like community building has to be

like community building has to be

like community building has to be something that’s in you but you have to

something that’s in you but you have to

something that’s in you but you have to you have to want to meet people and to

you have to want to meet people and to

you have to want to meet people and to help make their lives better and bring

help make their lives better and bring

help make their lives better and bring people together think it’s a fantastic

people together think it’s a fantastic

people together think it’s a fantastic marketing strategy but if you don’t

marketing strategy but if you don’t

marketing strategy but if you don’t actually care about people that much you

actually care about people that much you

actually care about people that much you know then then it’s not going to work

know then then it’s not going to work

know then then it’s not going to work for you there’s so many different

for you there’s so many different

for you there’s so many different strategies that you can do but then

strategies that you can do but then

strategies that you can do but then community bill is one of them but again

community bill is one of them but again

community bill is one of them but again you have to love the process like just

you have to love the process like just

you have to love the process like just because I may come on and say community

because I may come on and say community

because I may come on and say community building is the way of the future and

building is the way of the future and

building is the way of the future and that’s how you got to market yourself it

that’s how you got to market yourself it

that’s how you got to market yourself it doesn’t mean that that’s going to work

doesn’t mean that that’s going to work

doesn’t mean that that’s going to work for you you got to find the thing that

for you you got to find the thing that

for you you got to find the thing that fits your personality so for me I love

fits your personality so for me I love

fits your personality so for me I love my community right I love my YouTube

my community right I love my YouTube

my community right I love my YouTube community especially I’m in the comments

community especially I’m in the comments

community especially I’m in the comments every day I want everybody to get a

every day I want everybody to get a

every day I want everybody to get a response most of it is that I make are

response most of it is that I make are

response most of it is that I make are about um request that people put in to

about um request that people put in to

about um request that people put in to my channel you know i like that it feeds

my channel you know i like that it feeds

my channel you know i like that it feeds me i wake up every morning and look at

me i wake up every morning and look at

me i wake up every morning and look at the comments and that gives me energy to

the comments and that gives me energy to

the comments and that gives me energy to want to do more and be better i think it

want to do more and be better i think it

want to do more and be better i think it doesn’t only have to be online I look at

doesn’t only have to be online I look at

doesn’t only have to be online I look at my my business my salsa business trying

my my business my salsa business trying

my my business my salsa business trying to dance salsa in one we started a

to dance salsa in one we started a

to dance salsa in one we started a meetup group around that so yes to

meetup group around that so yes to

meetup group around that so yes to connect initially online but then the

connect initially online but then the

connect initially online but then the whole point is that they get together in

whole point is that they get together in

whole point is that they get together in an offline setting

an offline setting

an offline setting people come to our school to learn to

people come to our school to learn to

people come to our school to learn to dance but also to really to meet people

dance but also to really to meet people

dance but also to really to meet people because they’re they’re isolated and

because they’re they’re isolated and

because they’re they’re isolated and lonely and they’re just stuck in their

lonely and they’re just stuck in their

lonely and they’re just stuck in their phones and so it’s a way of really

phones and so it’s a way of really

phones and so it’s a way of really bringing people together so to get

bringing people together so to get

bringing people together so to get started one like actually care and and

started one like actually care and and

started one like actually care and and then to don’t be so focused about I need

then to don’t be so focused about I need

then to don’t be so focused about I need to get you know a thousand more people

to get you know a thousand more people

to get you know a thousand more people on my thing it’s really about making an

on my thing it’s really about making an

on my thing it’s really about making an impact on the people who do come you

impact on the people who do come you

impact on the people who do come you don’t even impact on one person that

don’t even impact on one person that

don’t even impact on one person that person going to come back they’re gonna

person going to come back they’re gonna

person going to come back they’re gonna tell their friends their friends are

tell their friends their friends are

tell their friends their friends are going to come and it’s caring about them

going to come and it’s caring about them

going to come and it’s caring about them all of the process you to help them get

all of the process you to help them get

all of the process you to help them get to you know whatever whatever the goal

to you know whatever whatever the goal

to you know whatever whatever the goal is of your business for me to help

is of your business for me to help

is of your business for me to help believe in yourself Creek companies for

believe in yourself Creek companies for

believe in yourself Creek companies for other people might be how to learn

other people might be how to learn

other people might be how to learn guitar or learn the dancer you know

guitar or learn the dancer you know

guitar or learn the dancer you know become an author or whatever it is

become an author or whatever it is

become an author or whatever it is people are so attached like the angle

people are so attached like the angle

people are so attached like the angle without enjoying the process along the

without enjoying the process along the

without enjoying the process along the way so really focusing on quality over

way so really focusing on quality over

way so really focusing on quality over quantity and then quantities like the

quantity and then quantities like the

quantity and then quantities like the byproduct of that in a way but carrying

byproduct of that in a way but carrying

byproduct of that in a way but carrying along the way yes the quality quantity

along the way yes the quality quantity

along the way yes the quality quantity thing is interesting because the real

thing is interesting because the real

thing is interesting because the real answer is is actually both right like

answer is is actually both right like

answer is is actually both right like yes you need quality quality is what

yes you need quality quality is what

yes you need quality quality is what gets you if you just bump it out like if

gets you if you just bump it out like if

gets you if you just bump it out like if i make my youtube channel i’m pumping

i make my youtube channel i’m pumping

i make my youtube channel i’m pumping out a thousand crappy videos a day

out a thousand crappy videos a day

out a thousand crappy videos a day doesn’t matter how much quantity i put

doesn’t matter how much quantity i put

doesn’t matter how much quantity i put out you’re gonna help but if i’m only

out you’re gonna help but if i’m only

out you’re gonna help but if i’m only doing one video a year that’s probably

doing one video a year that’s probably

doing one video a year that’s probably not going to be good either unless it’s

not going to be good either unless it’s

not going to be good either unless it’s like just insanely epic what people

like just insanely epic what people

like just insanely epic what people you’ll kind of feel understanding is the

you’ll kind of feel understanding is the

you’ll kind of feel understanding is the quantity leads to the quality for me to

quantity leads to the quality for me to

quantity leads to the quality for me to give you quality i need practice like my

give you quality i need practice like my

give you quality i need practice like my channel has become good because I’ve

channel has become good because I’ve

channel has become good because I’ve done 3500 videos that’s a lot of

done 3500 videos that’s a lot of

done 3500 videos that’s a lot of quantity and not all the moving have

quantity and not all the moving have

quantity and not all the moving have been published so if you want to be able

been published so if you want to be able

been published so if you want to be able to provide quality to your customers to

to provide quality to your customers to

to provide quality to your customers to your community then you need a lot of

your community then you need a lot of

your community then you need a lot of practice whether it’s in your own

practice whether it’s in your own

practice whether it’s in your own community you’re going to other

community you’re going to other

community you’re going to other communities so at the start you’re going

communities so at the start you’re going

communities so at the start you’re going to suck just like anything else and you

to suck just like anything else and you

to suck just like anything else and you slowly get better and so the you need

slowly get better and so the you need

slowly get better and so the you need both quality and quantity and the

both quality and quantity and the

both quality and quantity and the quality helps you I sorry the quality

quality helps you I sorry the quality

quality helps you I sorry the quality helps you lead to the quantity the

helps you lead to the quantity the

helps you lead to the quantity the quality I’m not all the placer the

quality I’m not all the placer the

quality I’m not all the placer the quantity

quantity

quantity you need the quality I mean and then you

you need the quality I mean and then you

you need the quality I mean and then you know in saying that you know like i said

know in saying that you know like i said

know in saying that you know like i said i’ve been watching your stuff for a few

i’ve been watching your stuff for a few

i’ve been watching your stuff for a few years but one thing I’ve noticed with

years but one thing I’ve noticed with

years but one thing I’ve noticed with you is that you stayed consistent in a

you is that you stayed consistent in a

you is that you stayed consistent in a lot of your content so the stuff that I

lot of your content so the stuff that I

lot of your content so the stuff that I could I could go back and read some of

could I could go back and read some of

could I could go back and read some of your content from you know couple years

your content from you know couple years

your content from you know couple years back but it would still be very much

back but it would still be very much

back but it would still be very much aligned to the stuff they be releasing

aligned to the stuff they be releasing

aligned to the stuff they be releasing today you know it’s about

today you know it’s about

today you know it’s about entrepreneurship it’s about inspiration

entrepreneurship it’s about inspiration

entrepreneurship it’s about inspiration it’s about success stories of other

it’s about success stories of other

it’s about success stories of other entrepreneurs and I think one of the

entrepreneurs and I think one of the

entrepreneurs and I think one of the challenges is everybody talks about

challenges is everybody talks about

challenges is everybody talks about staying consistent in authentic and when

staying consistent in authentic and when

staying consistent in authentic and when you are releasing content but how can

you are releasing content but how can

you are releasing content but how can you also to show you to stay relevant

you also to show you to stay relevant

you also to show you to stay relevant because if you stay consistent authentic

because if you stay consistent authentic

because if you stay consistent authentic for today’s generation and you’re doing

for today’s generation and you’re doing

for today’s generation and you’re doing that over a period of five ten years do

that over a period of five ten years do

that over a period of five ten years do you just expect your audience to grow

you just expect your audience to grow

you just expect your audience to grow with you how how would you then tap into

with you how how would you then tap into

with you how how would you then tap into the next generation and still be

the next generation and still be

the next generation and still be relevant to that I stay relevant to the

relevant to that I stay relevant to the

relevant to that I stay relevant to the audience into the market by staying

audience into the market by staying

audience into the market by staying relevant to myself I am my market I make

relevant to myself I am my market I make

relevant to myself I am my market I make stuff that I love and thankfully a lot

stuff that I love and thankfully a lot

stuff that I love and thankfully a lot of people love it as well I don’t put

of people love it as well I don’t put

of people love it as well I don’t put out content like I don’t put out content

out content like I don’t put out content

out content like I don’t put out content trying to attract the 16 year old new

trying to attract the 16 year old new

trying to attract the 16 year old new entrepreneur who was all over snapchat

entrepreneur who was all over snapchat

entrepreneur who was all over snapchat although like in looking at the people

although like in looking at the people

although like in looking at the people watching live we’ve got 14 and 15 16

watching live we’ve got 14 and 15 16

watching live we’ve got 14 and 15 16 year olds watching I put out content

year olds watching I put out content

year olds watching I put out content that i love that are that is for me that

that i love that are that is for me that

that i love that are that is for me that makes me a lot that i wish i had

makes me a lot that i wish i had

makes me a lot that i wish i had when i was starting my business and

when i was starting my business and

when i was starting my business and that’s still today give me value for

that’s still today give me value for

that’s still today give me value for what i’m doing i think if you are just

what i’m doing i think if you are just

what i’m doing i think if you are just trying to i think so many companies do

trying to i think so many companies do

trying to i think so many companies do that i think so many companies look at

that i think so many companies look at

that i think so many companies look at oh this is new market developing how to

oh this is new market developing how to

oh this is new market developing how to been going to attract those where you

been going to attract those where you

been going to attract those where you have maybe you have no interest like you

have maybe you have no interest like you

have maybe you have no interest like you know maybe you don’t have any business

know maybe you don’t have any business

know maybe you don’t have any business attracting those guys you know maybe the

attracting those guys you know maybe the

attracting those guys you know maybe the content you’re going to make is going to

content you’re going to make is going to

content you’re going to make is going to be crack because you’re just trying to

be crack because you’re just trying to

be crack because you’re just trying to appeal to a 14 year old and it doesn’t

appeal to a 14 year old and it doesn’t

appeal to a 14 year old and it doesn’t resonate with you at all where I think

resonate with you at all where I think

resonate with you at all where I think you’ve got to create stuff that makes

you’ve got to create stuff that makes

you’ve got to create stuff that makes you come alive and for me you talk about

you come alive and for me you talk about

you come alive and for me you talk about the consistency and stain on message I

the consistency and stain on message I

the consistency and stain on message I really worried about like message in

really worried about like message in

really worried about like message in staying consistent like oh is this the

staying consistent like oh is this the

staying consistent like oh is this the same thing that I said two years ago or

same thing that I said two years ago or

same thing that I said two years ago or two months ago really it’s about just

two months ago really it’s about just

two months ago really it’s about just being authentic and when you’re when you

being authentic and when you’re when you

being authentic and when you’re when you are when you when you tell the truth you

are when you when you tell the truth you

are when you when you tell the truth you don’t to worry about all the lies that

don’t to worry about all the lies that

don’t to worry about all the lies that you’ve told I try to go straight in your

you’ve told I try to go straight in your

you’ve told I try to go straight in your head and so I think it’s important to

head and so I think it’s important to

head and so I think it’s important to find out what it is that you staying for

find out what it is that you staying for

find out what it is that you staying for for me it’s about finding the one word

for me it’s about finding the one word

for me it’s about finding the one word that defines who you are and that’s a

that defines who you are and that’s a

that defines who you are and that’s a topic of my nonstick hold on yes I have

topic of my nonstick hold on yes I have

topic of my nonstick hold on yes I have that’s the top of my new book that’s

that’s the top of my new book that’s

that’s the top of my new book that’s coming out to be careful I just

coming out to be careful I just

coming out to be careful I just announced it um and so then when you

announced it um and so then when you

announced it um and so then when you understand the value of what you staying

understand the value of what you staying

understand the value of what you staying for then the lens through which I see

for then the lens through which I see

for then the lens through which I see the world is believed and the way I’m

the world is believed and the way I’m

the world is believed and the way I’m able to help it make an impact is

able to help it make an impact is

able to help it make an impact is through entrepreneurship because that’s

through entrepreneurship because that’s

through entrepreneurship because that’s what I have an understanding of and so I

what I have an understanding of and so I

what I have an understanding of and so I helped believe in entrepreneurs and so

helped believe in entrepreneurs and so

helped believe in entrepreneurs and so all my content has been around that

all my content has been around that

all my content has been around that consistently the actual videos may have

consistently the actual videos may have

consistently the actual videos may have changed like the top 10 series that

changed like the top 10 series that

changed like the top 10 series that people no one loved and talked about in

people no one loved and talked about in

people no one loved and talked about in the chat you know I didn’t have those

the chat you know I didn’t have those

the chat you know I didn’t have those two years ago the in special series I

two years ago the in special series I

two years ago the in special series I didn’t have those two years ago it was

didn’t have those two years ago it was

didn’t have those two years ago it was more just answering questions from the

more just answering questions from the

more just answering questions from the audience but the message has

audience but the message has

audience but the message has consistently been the same I may have

consistently been the same I may have

consistently been the same I may have more energy now I mean turn up a little

more energy now I mean turn up a little

more energy now I mean turn up a little bit more than I did before because the

bit more than I did before because the

bit more than I did before because the quantity leads to better quality most of

quantity leads to better quality most of

quantity leads to better quality most of the opinions that I have are the same or

the opinions that I have are the same or

the opinions that I have are the same or consistent there may be some things that

consistent there may be some things that

consistent there may be some things that you know I may have changed my approach

you know I may have changed my approach

you know I may have changed my approach on something but I think as long as

on something but I think as long as

on something but I think as long as you’re being true to yourself and

you’re being true to yourself and

you’re being true to yourself and growing your business as you grow as a

growing your business as you grow as a

growing your business as you grow as a human being too many people get trapped

human being too many people get trapped

human being too many people get trapped into well this is what worked for me two

into well this is what worked for me two

into well this is what worked for me two years ago and so I’m just going to keep

years ago and so I’m just going to keep

years ago and so I’m just going to keep doing it even though i don’t really like

doing it even though i don’t really like

doing it even though i don’t really like it anymore like i’m kind of bored of

it anymore like i’m kind of bored of

it anymore like i’m kind of bored of doing that but it’s what’s working and

doing that but it’s what’s working and

doing that but it’s what’s working and bringing me money so i’m just going to

bringing me money so i’m just going to

bringing me money so i’m just going to keep doing that and not growing and

keep doing that and not growing and

keep doing that and not growing and expanding and the trick is as you grow

expanding and the trick is as you grow

expanding and the trick is as you grow and change the human being you need to

and change the human being you need to

and change the human being you need to incorporate that into your business

incorporate that into your business

incorporate that into your business otherwise it’ll start it a little flat

otherwise it’ll start it a little flat

otherwise it’ll start it a little flat line and then go down because you don’t

line and then go down because you don’t

line and then go down because you don’t have the same energy and passion at your

have the same energy and passion at your

have the same energy and passion at your point into it so i think as long as

point into it so i think as long as

point into it so i think as long as you’re creating something that you love

you’re creating something that you love

you’re creating something that you love and makes you come alive other people

and makes you come alive other people

and makes you come alive other people will too

will too

will too it’s interesting you know you raise the

it’s interesting you know you raise the

it’s interesting you know you raise the passion and purpose and in today’s

passion and purpose and in today’s

passion and purpose and in today’s millennial generation I’d say you know

millennial generation I’d say you know

millennial generation I’d say you know they’re all about passion and purpose

they’re all about passion and purpose

they’re all about passion and purpose and in what they do I’d love to hear

and in what they do I’d love to hear

and in what they do I’d love to hear your thoughts on millennial

your thoughts on millennial

your thoughts on millennial entrepreneurship versus because I know a

entrepreneurship versus because I know a

entrepreneurship versus because I know a lot of the videos you’ve made is you

lot of the videos you’ve made is you

lot of the videos you’ve made is you know we’re talking about the earlier

know we’re talking about the earlier

know we’re talking about the earlier entrepreneurs like the Steve Jobs of the

entrepreneurs like the Steve Jobs of the

entrepreneurs like the Steve Jobs of the world of what Disney’s of the world you

world of what Disney’s of the world you

world of what Disney’s of the world you know the guys who I would call

know the guys who I would call

know the guys who I would call traditional entrepreneurs from an era

traditional entrepreneurs from an era

traditional entrepreneurs from an era before the digital age and in today’s

before the digital age and in today’s

before the digital age and in today’s digital age almost anyone can pick up

digital age almost anyone can pick up

digital age almost anyone can pick up their laptop with internet and become an

their laptop with internet and become an

their laptop with internet and become an entrepreneur so how do you see the game

entrepreneur so how do you see the game

entrepreneur so how do you see the game exchange the Entrepreneurship game has

exchange the Entrepreneurship game has

exchange the Entrepreneurship game has changed you know in that journey I think

changed you know in that journey I think

changed you know in that journey I think it’s just become easier I think that the

it’s just become easier I think that the

it’s just become easier I think that the the cost of entry is so low to get in

the cost of entry is so low to get in

the cost of entry is so low to get in you don’t have to buy a building in hire

you don’t have to buy a building in hire

you don’t have to buy a building in hire a team and manufacturer you know picture

a team and manufacturer you know picture

a team and manufacturer you know picture frames or ginger snap or whatever right

frames or ginger snap or whatever right

frames or ginger snap or whatever right like you don’t need to have those

like you don’t need to have those

like you don’t need to have those facilities you can just start from a

facilities you can just start from a

facilities you can just start from a laptop so that the cost to get started

laptop so that the cost to get started

laptop so that the cost to get started are way lower and there’s there’s a lot

are way lower and there’s there’s a lot

are way lower and there’s there’s a lot of people to look up to now this there’s

of people to look up to now this there’s

of people to look up to now this there’s young entrepreneurs who have made it and

young entrepreneurs who have made it and

young entrepreneurs who have made it and had success and so there’s role models

had success and so there’s role models

had success and so there’s role models to look to you know being the one of the

to look to you know being the one of the

to look to you know being the one of the first young entrepreneurs might be scary

first young entrepreneurs might be scary

first young entrepreneurs might be scary being the first black entrepreneur be

being the first black entrepreneur be

being the first black entrepreneur be scary being the first woman entrepreneur

scary being the first woman entrepreneur

scary being the first woman entrepreneur might be scary but now there’s so many

might be scary but now there’s so many

might be scary but now there’s so many role models to look up to say oh well he

role models to look up to say oh well he

role models to look up to say oh well he did it she did it I can do it too so

did it she did it I can do it too so

did it she did it I can do it too so those two things combined I think people

those two things combined I think people

those two things combined I think people always wanted to do their passion uh you

always wanted to do their passion uh you

always wanted to do their passion uh you look at kids I have a son you don’t you

look at kids I have a son you don’t you

look at kids I have a son you don’t you have kids yet I have a son just turned

have kids yet I have a son just turned

have kids yet I have a son just turned seven you know he wants to do what he

seven you know he wants to do what he

seven you know he wants to do what he wants to do like we are born this way we

wants to do like we are born this way we

wants to do like we are born this way we want to do the things that we want to do

want to do the things that we want to do

want to do the things that we want to do one that we love and then as we get

one that we love and then as we get

one that we love and then as we get older and as we get safe and as we get

older and as we get safe and as we get

older and as we get safe and as we get jobs that gets kind of beaten out of us

jobs that gets kind of beaten out of us

jobs that gets kind of beaten out of us and we just end up you know working for

and we just end up you know working for

and we just end up you know working for the man and bowling orders and living

the man and bowling orders and living

the man and bowling orders and living for the evenings a weekend so I don’t

for the evenings a weekend so I don’t

for the evenings a weekend so I don’t know that I don’t think that today’s

know that I don’t think that today’s

know that I don’t think that today’s millennial generation is any different

millennial generation is any different

millennial generation is any different than the other generations growing up

than the other generations growing up

than the other generations growing up the difference in terms of like their

the difference in terms of like their

the difference in terms of like their their passion and wanting to do

their passion and wanting to do

their passion and wanting to do something for themselves I think it’s

something for themselves I think it’s

something for themselves I think it’s just more that’s weight easier to do it

just more that’s weight easier to do it

just more that’s weight easier to do it now

now

now more opportunities to do it now than

more opportunities to do it now than

more opportunities to do it now than we’ve ever had and there’s more role

we’ve ever had and there’s more role

we’ve ever had and there’s more role models look to to know that it’s

models look to to know that it’s

models look to to know that it’s possible so um in saying that you know

possible so um in saying that you know

possible so um in saying that you know we also hear a lot about the young guys

we also hear a lot about the young guys

we also hear a lot about the young guys and the disruption and the tech

and the disruption and the tech

and the disruption and the tech disruption going on and just being able

disruption going on and just being able

disruption going on and just being able to you know do things differently and

to you know do things differently and

to you know do things differently and outside the status quo and all that what

outside the status quo and all that what

outside the status quo and all that what are your thoughts on entrepreneurship by

are your thoughts on entrepreneurship by

are your thoughts on entrepreneurship by that style or are you more in you know

that style or are you more in you know

that style or are you more in you know are you more into sort of when you doing

are you more into sort of when you doing

are you more into sort of when you doing entrepreneurship you should try and make

entrepreneurship you should try and make

entrepreneurship you should try and make the world a better place because i think

the world a better place because i think

the world a better place because i think is kind of two different dynamics so you

is kind of two different dynamics so you

is kind of two different dynamics so you try to make the world a better place or

try to make the world a better place or

try to make the world a better place or you’re disrupting a current status quo

you’re disrupting a current status quo

you’re disrupting a current status quo current form yeah you know i would put

current form yeah you know i would put

current form yeah you know i would put those together i I disrupt you know I

those together i I disrupt you know I

those together i I disrupt you know I make the world a better place by

make the world a better place by

make the world a better place by disrupting the status quo once that okay

disrupting the status quo once that okay

disrupting the status quo once that okay and then but when you when you’re doing

and then but when you when you’re doing

and then but when you when you’re doing that you know some like you look at the

that you know some like you look at the

that you know some like you look at the tech disruption that’s going on I think

tech disruption that’s going on I think

tech disruption that’s going on I think what we get here on the side of the ones

what we get here on the side of the ones

what we get here on the side of the ones we get kind of to two sides of it I’m

we get kind of to two sides of it I’m

we get kind of to two sides of it I’m totally for the disruption of the tech

totally for the disruption of the tech

totally for the disruption of the tech disruption that’s going on as well I

disruption that’s going on as well I

disruption that’s going on as well I think it’s fantastic but I think there’s

think it’s fantastic but I think there’s

think it’s fantastic but I think there’s also a little bit of pushback in terms

also a little bit of pushback in terms

also a little bit of pushback in terms of resistance to change to actually

of resistance to change to actually

of resistance to change to actually accepting it as well so like you know is

accepting it as well so like you know is

accepting it as well so like you know is that a generational mindset mindset

that a generational mindset mindset

that a generational mindset mindset thing or what is what would you so not

thing or what is what would you so not

thing or what is what would you so not so it’s all this is human nature we

so it’s all this is human nature we

so it’s all this is human nature we don’t like change right don’t like

don’t like change right don’t like

don’t like change right don’t like change you know when when the car came

change you know when when the car came

change you know when when the car came out the guys with the horse and buggies

out the guys with the horse and buggies

out the guys with the horse and buggies were pissed like technology disrupts and

were pissed like technology disrupts and

were pissed like technology disrupts and if you’re losing business and you don’t

if you’re losing business and you don’t

if you’re losing business and you don’t want to innovate and change if you’re

want to innovate and change if you’re

want to innovate and change if you’re not leading that revolution then you’re

not leading that revolution then you’re

not leading that revolution then you’re going to get upset and you’re going to

going to get upset and you’re going to

going to get upset and you’re going to fight it you know I don’t know what it’s

fight it you know I don’t know what it’s

fight it you know I don’t know what it’s like a New Zealand but recently in

like a New Zealand but recently in

like a New Zealand but recently in toronto all the taxi guys were upset

toronto all the taxi guys were upset

toronto all the taxi guys were upset about uber coming in and kind of

about uber coming in and kind of

about uber coming in and kind of disrupting their business like uber is

disrupting their business like uber is

disrupting their business like uber is the future it can be in me as a future

the future it can be in me as a future

the future it can be in me as a future you got to be able to keep up with that

you got to be able to keep up with that

you got to be able to keep up with that and there was always going to be people

and there was always going to be people

and there was always going to be people who is it’s not just this generation

who is it’s not just this generation

who is it’s not just this generation it’s happened forever ah you know so

it’s happened forever ah you know so

it’s happened forever ah you know so it’s something you did that back in the

it’s something you did that back in the

it’s something you did that back in the day I was reading you also introduced

day I was reading you also introduced

day I was reading you also introduced software and and took that from from

software and and took that from from

software and and took that from from sort of you know it from the college

sort of you know it from the college

sort of you know it from the college days up to an exit as well yeah

days up to an exit as well yeah

days up to an exit as well yeah what was that journey like was that

what was that journey like was that

what was that journey like was that quite a but a tough journey to go

quite a but a tough journey to go

quite a but a tough journey to go through you know some advice to other

through you know some advice to other

through you know some advice to other entrepreneurs trying to get into the

entrepreneurs trying to get into the

entrepreneurs trying to get into the let’s say software-as-a-service uh it

let’s say software-as-a-service uh it

let’s say software-as-a-service uh it will that really sucked hard uh and then

will that really sucked hard uh and then

will that really sucked hard uh and then was amazing oh we oh we know among the

was amazing oh we oh we know among the

was amazing oh we oh we know among the worst days of my life and part of that

worst days of my life and part of that

worst days of my life and part of that business I had opportunities to work at

business I had opportunities to work at

business I had opportunities to work at big companies and make lots of money and

big companies and make lots of money and

big companies and make lots of money and turned it down to do this job the this

turned it down to do this job the this

turned it down to do this job the this company that was an owner and that I

company that was an owner and that I

company that was an owner and that I didn’t know if I was going to work out

didn’t know if I was going to work out

didn’t know if I was going to work out and I thought might have been the worst

and I thought might have been the worst

and I thought might have been the worst decision of my life in terms of

decision of my life in terms of

decision of my life in terms of translating that to kind of advice for

translating that to kind of advice for

translating that to kind of advice for entrepreneurs for me the the thing that

entrepreneurs for me the the thing that

entrepreneurs for me the the thing that I learned the most from that is I don’t

I learned the most from that is I don’t

I learned the most from that is I don’t want to live with regret right that if

want to live with regret right that if

want to live with regret right that if there’s something that I’m scared of

there’s something that I’m scared of

there’s something that I’m scared of doing or something that I’m on the fence

doing or something that I’m on the fence

doing or something that I’m on the fence of or something that might be pushing

of or something that might be pushing

of or something that might be pushing aluminum personal belief of mine I don’t

aluminum personal belief of mine I don’t

aluminum personal belief of mine I don’t want to just default to the safe path

want to just default to the safe path

want to just default to the safe path because it’s a safe path and everybody

because it’s a safe path and everybody

because it’s a safe path and everybody says to go and do it even if my friends

says to go and do it even if my friends

says to go and do it even if my friends and family are you know questioning me

and family are you know questioning me

and family are you know questioning me or people online you know think you’re

or people online you know think you’re

or people online you know think you’re crazy I try to look at my life when I’m

crazy I try to look at my life when I’m

crazy I try to look at my life when I’m 90 years old or maybe by the time I get

90 years old or maybe by the time I get

90 years old or maybe by the time I get there I’ll be like 150 years old because

there I’ll be like 150 years old because

there I’ll be like 150 years old because we can live and looking back like I

we can live and looking back like I

we can live and looking back like I don’t want to look back on this day and

don’t want to look back on this day and

don’t want to look back on this day and in regret that I was too afraid to make

in regret that I was too afraid to make

in regret that I was too afraid to make the right decision and that helps me

the right decision and that helps me

the right decision and that helps me bust through the fear and so I almost

bust through the fear and so I almost

bust through the fear and so I almost didn’t go with my company we weren’t

didn’t go with my company we weren’t

didn’t go with my company we weren’t doing well it’s making 300 girls a month

doing well it’s making 300 girls a month

doing well it’s making 300 girls a month when I had these opportunities to make

when I had these opportunities to make

when I had these opportunities to make you know 100k starting salary flying

you know 100k starting salary flying

you know 100k starting salary flying around the world in the job I thought I

around the world in the job I thought I

around the world in the job I thought I wanted to do and I didn’t know was going

wanted to do and I didn’t know was going

wanted to do and I didn’t know was going to work is easy to say now that I had I

to work is easy to say now that I had I

to work is easy to say now that I had I worked out as a great i didn’t know that

worked out as a great i didn’t know that

worked out as a great i didn’t know that I was scared out of my mind I’m the

I was scared out of my mind I’m the

I was scared out of my mind I’m the thing that just got me through with me

thing that just got me through with me

thing that just got me through with me feeling like I can always get another

feeling like I can always get another

feeling like I can always get another job and may not be with that company may

job and may not be with that company may

job and may not be with that company may not look as good a minute there’s many

not look as good a minute there’s many

not look as good a minute there’s many benefits and all this stuff but I can’t

benefits and all this stuff but I can’t

benefits and all this stuff but I can’t I don’t know if I’d ever get that

I don’t know if I’d ever get that

I don’t know if I’d ever get that business opportunity again something in

business opportunity again something in

business opportunity again something in here was like I gotta go and do it and

here was like I gotta go and do it and

here was like I gotta go and do it and so making the big decisions in your life

so making the big decisions in your life

so making the big decisions in your life with your heart and not your head and

with your heart and not your head and

with your heart and not your head and then you use your head to figure out how

then you use your head to figure out how

then you use your head to figure out how to make those decisions work yeah and I

to make those decisions work yeah and I

to make those decisions work yeah and I think that’s the last time you lost

think that’s the last time you lost

think that’s the last time you lost stuff within the software industry but i

stuff within the software industry but i

stuff within the software industry but i think is less than

think is less than

think is less than all entrepreneurs can apply if there’s

all entrepreneurs can apply if there’s

all entrepreneurs can apply if there’s something that you want to do and that

something that you want to do and that

something that you want to do and that you think you would read if you don’t do

you think you would read if you don’t do

you think you would read if you don’t do it then you owe it to yourself to try

it then you owe it to yourself to try

it then you owe it to yourself to try even if it’s scary if people think

even if it’s scary if people think

even if it’s scary if people think you’re crazy for doing it yeah and i

you’re crazy for doing it yeah and i

you’re crazy for doing it yeah and i think you know uncertainty you’re saying

think you know uncertainty you’re saying

think you know uncertainty you’re saying and here’s a couple of the most common

and here’s a couple of the most common

and here’s a couple of the most common emotions that you get in the early

emotions that you get in the early

emotions that you get in the early stages because you just don’t know is

stages because you just don’t know is

stages because you just don’t know is where is this going to go you might have

where is this going to go you might have

where is this going to go you might have passion and purpose leave but you still

passion and purpose leave but you still

passion and purpose leave but you still can’t predict the future so you just we

can’t predict the future so you just we

can’t predict the future so you just we just don’t know which direction it’s

just don’t know which direction it’s

just don’t know which direction it’s going to take and then so you know

going to take and then so you know

going to take and then so you know getting the that out of you the

getting the that out of you the

getting the that out of you the uncertainty and fearlessness sort of

uncertainty and fearlessness sort of

uncertainty and fearlessness sort of really turning out a certainty into

really turning out a certainty into

really turning out a certainty into certainty or turning the fear to

certainty or turning the fear to

certainty or turning the fear to fearlessness and all that sort of stuff

fearlessness and all that sort of stuff

fearlessness and all that sort of stuff and I guess that’s that’s what reasons

and I guess that’s that’s what reasons

and I guess that’s that’s what reasons what I would turn to your kind of

what I would turn to your kind of

what I would turn to your kind of content you know what’s that sort of

content you know what’s that sort of

content you know what’s that sort of content I would enjoy it I’ll be like

content I would enjoy it I’ll be like

content I would enjoy it I’ll be like you know what you know it happen time

you know what you know it happen time

you know what you know it happen time and time and time again Rivoli’s I don’t

and time and time again Rivoli’s I don’t

and time and time again Rivoli’s I don’t see what the problem is where it

see what the problem is where it

see what the problem is where it happening again this one time so I guess

happening again this one time so I guess

happening again this one time so I guess one of the biggest values that we get

one of the biggest values that we get

one of the biggest values that we get from your content I’m going to all that

from your content I’m going to all that

from your content I’m going to all that other stuff have you been to us out of

other stuff have you been to us out of

other stuff have you been to us out of the world yet I have not been to New

the world yet I have not been to New

the world yet I have not been to New Zealand or to Australia i’ve been i’ve

Zealand or to Australia i’ve been i’ve

Zealand or to Australia i’ve been i’ve been around asia a bunch of times for

been around asia a bunch of times for

been around asia a bunch of times for speaking and stuff but I haven’t been

speaking and stuff but I haven’t been

speaking and stuff but I haven’t been there yet so it’s on my list yeah we’ll

there yet so it’s on my list yeah we’ll

there yet so it’s on my list yeah we’ll have to see if we can see something up

have to see if we can see something up

have to see if we can see something up to get thing I hear New Zealanders are

to get thing I hear New Zealanders are

to get thing I hear New Zealanders are friendlier than Australians yeah we love

friendlier than Australians yeah we love

friendlier than Australians yeah we love everybody I think so we gotta see I got

everybody I think so we gotta see I got

everybody I think so we gotta see I got to put that too because I strands are

to put that too because I strands are

to put that too because I strands are pretty friendly so so I’ll have to put

pretty friendly so so I’ll have to put

pretty friendly so so I’ll have to put it to the test and see I hope I’m by the

it to the test and see I hope I’m by the

it to the test and see I hope I’m by the first Kiwi you met no no I met I met a

first Kiwi you met no no I met I met a

first Kiwi you met no no I met I met a bunch of you know I met a bunch of

bunch of you know I met a bunch of

bunch of you know I met a bunch of Zealanders and and I’ve seen the dance

Zealanders and and I’ve seen the dance

Zealanders and and I’ve seen the dance the number of times and it’s fine that’s

the number of times and it’s fine that’s

the number of times and it’s fine that’s fantastic oh look i mean everything i

fantastic oh look i mean everything i

fantastic oh look i mean everything i think you know just going to stick to

think you know just going to stick to

think you know just going to stick to the time I don’t know if we still have

the time I don’t know if we still have

the time I don’t know if we still have time or we know mark yeah so um you know

time or we know mark yeah so um you know

time or we know mark yeah so um you know what what else can you sort of share I

what what else can you sort of share I

what what else can you sort of share I guess with my community and with your

guess with my community and with your

guess with my community and with your community in terms of what’s coming

community in terms of what’s coming

community in terms of what’s coming ahead for you you writing a book you’re

ahead for you you writing a book you’re

ahead for you you writing a book you’re mentioning as well yeah book comes out

mentioning as well yeah book comes out

mentioning as well yeah book comes out december six it’s about

december six it’s about

december six it’s about self-awareness is about finding the one

self-awareness is about finding the one

self-awareness is about finding the one word that defines you to help then you

word that defines you to help then you

word that defines you to help then you make your your business and your life on

make your your business and your life on

make your your business and your life on purpose instead of have I released it I

purpose instead of have I released it I

purpose instead of have I released it I feel like I actually haven’t released it

feel like I actually haven’t released it

feel like I actually haven’t released it I feel like it actually releases this

I feel like it actually releases this

I feel like it actually releases this weekend this Monday this is like bonus

weekend this Monday this is like bonus

weekend this Monday this is like bonus we will see you guys watching this is

we will see you guys watching this is

we will see you guys watching this is live bonus stuff because I just good I

live bonus stuff because I just good I

live bonus stuff because I just good I should probably stop talking because I

should probably stop talking because I

should probably stop talking because I publishes i canna back forget everything

publishes i canna back forget everything

publishes i canna back forget everything you guys have heard because I haven’t I

you guys have heard because I haven’t I

you guys have heard because I haven’t I haven’t I filmed it yesterday but I

haven’t I filmed it yesterday but I

haven’t I filmed it yesterday but I haven’t really it doesn’t come out till

haven’t really it doesn’t come out till

haven’t really it doesn’t come out till Monday games probably but so let’s talk

Monday games probably but so let’s talk

Monday games probably but so let’s talk about fear ah i chant something to say

about fear ah i chant something to say

about fear ah i chant something to say about fear um I feel like people are

about fear um I feel like people are

about fear um I feel like people are trying to avoid fear and and people tell

trying to avoid fear and and people tell

trying to avoid fear and and people tell them or tell themselves don’t be afraid

them or tell themselves don’t be afraid

them or tell themselves don’t be afraid like I shouldn’t be afraid right don’t

like I shouldn’t be afraid right don’t

like I shouldn’t be afraid right don’t be dear feelers be fearless we’re really

be dear feelers be fearless we’re really

be dear feelers be fearless we’re really for me it’s more about feeling the fear

for me it’s more about feeling the fear

for me it’s more about feeling the fear and doing it anyway it’s not like expect

and doing it anyway it’s not like expect

and doing it anyway it’s not like expect to be afraid it’s okay to be afraid it’s

to be afraid it’s okay to be afraid it’s

to be afraid it’s okay to be afraid it’s normal to be afraid people are afraid

normal to be afraid people are afraid

normal to be afraid people are afraid like oh I shouldn’t be feeling this and

like oh I shouldn’t be feeling this and

like oh I shouldn’t be feeling this and then they they bow down and they don’t

then they they bow down and they don’t

then they they bow down and they don’t actually take the action that they’re

actually take the action that they’re

actually take the action that they’re supposed to be taking aa people are

supposed to be taking aa people are

supposed to be taking aa people are freaking on the comments about the book

freaking on the comments about the book

freaking on the comments about the book uh so what I try to do when I’m afraid

uh so what I try to do when I’m afraid

uh so what I try to do when I’m afraid is I try to step into it I try to do

is I try to step into it I try to do

is I try to step into it I try to do things that make me uncomfortable on

things that make me uncomfortable on

things that make me uncomfortable on purpose so an example that happened

purpose so an example that happened

purpose so an example that happened recently was about socks this sounds

recently was about socks this sounds

recently was about socks this sounds like something silly and stupid but I I

like something silly and stupid but I I

like something silly and stupid but I I was moving I just moved to a new place

was moving I just moved to a new place

was moving I just moved to a new place and when you move at least for me I had

and when you move at least for me I had

and when you move at least for me I had all these socks like these single socks

all these socks like these single socks

all these socks like these single socks that I was secretly hoping I was gonna

that I was secretly hoping I was gonna

that I was secretly hoping I was gonna get the matching pair you know in the

get the matching pair you know in the

get the matching pair you know in the wash but it never came so moving I gotta

wash but it never came so moving I gotta

wash but it never came so moving I gotta throw away all these socks like I’m

throw away all these socks like I’m

throw away all these socks like I’m never gonna find the matching pair

never gonna find the matching pair

never gonna find the matching pair forget about it and I thought to my son

forget about it and I thought to my son

forget about it and I thought to my son Hayden who’s seven and he he insists on

Hayden who’s seven and he he insists on

Hayden who’s seven and he he insists on wearing different colored socks all the

wearing different colored socks all the

wearing different colored socks all the time you’ll never wear matching socks

time you’ll never wear matching socks

time you’ll never wear matching socks never uh and I thought why don’t I just

never uh and I thought why don’t I just

never uh and I thought why don’t I just wear different socks like who cares

wear different socks like who cares

wear different socks like who cares what’s the big deal and I had these

what’s the big deal and I had these

what’s the big deal and I had these extra socks so you don’t have to throw

extra socks so you don’t have to throw

extra socks so you don’t have to throw them away and then my immediate thought

them away and then my immediate thought

them away and then my immediate thought was oh what do people see me in these

was oh what do people see me in these

was oh what do people see me in these different color socks what do people

different color socks what do people

different color socks what do people going

going

going to say how are people gonna judge me and

to say how are people gonna judge me and

to say how are people gonna judge me and its like the fear of you know acceptance

its like the fear of you know acceptance

its like the fear of you know acceptance from others yeah and as soon as I

from others yeah and as soon as I

from others yeah and as soon as I recognize that fear instantly I had to

recognize that fear instantly I had to

recognize that fear instantly I had to do it I had to do it like I don’t want

do it I had to do it like I don’t want

do it I had to do it like I don’t want to live my life based on what other

to live my life based on what other

to live my life based on what other people will think of me so I have to get

people will think of me so I have to get

people will think of me so I have to get used to pushing myself to do it and so I

used to pushing myself to do it and so I

used to pushing myself to do it and so I wore different color socks that entire

wore different color socks that entire

wore different color socks that entire day I went to a salsa thing at my

day I went to a salsa thing at my

day I went to a salsa thing at my business at night and and I then made a

business at night and and I then made a

business at night and and I then made a show of it and say hey I’m wearing two

show of it and say hey I’m wearing two

show of it and say hey I’m wearing two different colored socks you know don’t

different colored socks you know don’t

different colored socks you know don’t worry about how people judge you go and

worry about how people judge you go and

worry about how people judge you go and do something today um and so getting

do something today um and so getting

do something today um and so getting used to doing those kinds of things

used to doing those kinds of things

used to doing those kinds of things getting used to when you are afraid of

getting used to when you are afraid of

getting used to when you are afraid of something going out and trying it

something going out and trying it

something going out and trying it obviously within reason you know like

obviously within reason you know like

obviously within reason you know like don’t go jumping off a huge tower

don’t go jumping off a huge tower

don’t go jumping off a huge tower without a parachute or something you

without a parachute or something you

without a parachute or something you know like there are some things that you

know like there are some things that you

know like there are some things that you may not need to conquer that fear but

may not need to conquer that fear but

may not need to conquer that fear but most things are not actually things you

most things are not actually things you

most things are not actually things you should be afraid of and by getting into

should be afraid of and by getting into

should be afraid of and by getting into the habit of pushing yourself to when

the habit of pushing yourself to when

the habit of pushing yourself to when you feel afraid of something to try it

you feel afraid of something to try it

you feel afraid of something to try it on a small scale I find that that’s

on a small scale I find that that’s

on a small scale I find that that’s super helpful and a lot of times people

super helpful and a lot of times people

super helpful and a lot of times people are are chewing you on I remember being

are are chewing you on I remember being

are are chewing you on I remember being on a snowboard trail and I was on a ski

on a snowboard trail and I was on a ski

on a snowboard trail and I was on a ski lift and I was going up a ski lift

lift and I was going up a ski lift

lift and I was going up a ski lift there’s this little girl like 10 years

there’s this little girl like 10 years

there’s this little girl like 10 years old trying to these jumps on the

old trying to these jumps on the

old trying to these jumps on the snowboarding hill and she would jump and

snowboarding hill and she would jump and

snowboarding hill and she would jump and fall and jump and fall and jump and fall

fall and jump and fall and jump and fall

fall and jump and fall and jump and fall I’m sitting doing that on the ski lift

I’m sitting doing that on the ski lift

I’m sitting doing that on the ski lift thinking I hope she makes like if she

thinking I hope she makes like if she

thinking I hope she makes like if she wanted to land one it sucks to fall down

wanted to land one it sucks to fall down

wanted to land one it sucks to fall down every time and I’m at the top of the ski

every time and I’m at the top of the ski

every time and I’m at the top of the ski ski line I look down and she’s like lens

ski line I look down and she’s like lens

ski line I look down and she’s like lens the last one to five min hill I’m so

the last one to five min hill I’m so

the last one to five min hill I’m so happy for and I’m improving my

happy for and I’m improving my

happy for and I’m improving my snowboarding skills and I get to the top

snowboarding skills and I get to the top

snowboarding skills and I get to the top of the hill I’m ready to go down thing I

of the hill I’m ready to go down thing I

of the hill I’m ready to go down thing I wonder if I can jump but what if I can

wonder if I can jump but what if I can

wonder if I can jump but what if I can do that yeah and then instantly it’s

do that yeah and then instantly it’s

do that yeah and then instantly it’s like Oh what it like who’s here who else

like Oh what it like who’s here who else

like Oh what it like who’s here who else is on the hill who might see me fall I

is on the hill who might see me fall I

is on the hill who might see me fall I don’t want to fall and make it a fool of

don’t want to fall and make it a fool of

don’t want to fall and make it a fool of myself with all these people watching

myself with all these people watching

myself with all these people watching yeah and I thought back to like me look

yeah and I thought back to like me look

yeah and I thought back to like me look at the girl on the chairlift and

at the girl on the chairlift and

at the girl on the chairlift and thinking listen these people don’t even

thinking listen these people don’t even

thinking listen these people don’t even care and some of them will be cheer me

care and some of them will be cheer me

care and some of them will be cheer me on to help me want to like to do it to

on to help me want to like to do it to

on to help me want to like to do it to say yeah like hit that jump good job and

say yeah like hit that jump good job and

say yeah like hit that jump good job and so we just automatically assume that

so we just automatically assume that

so we just automatically assume that people are judging us and you know being

people are judging us and you know being

people are judging us and you know being negative towards

negative towards

negative towards Sin Cara but what we’re doing and really

Sin Cara but what we’re doing and really

Sin Cara but what we’re doing and really if you don’t care about the opinions of

if you don’t care about the opinions of

if you don’t care about the opinions of others I it just makes you stronger and

others I it just makes you stronger and

others I it just makes you stronger and you get into the habit and practice of

you get into the habit and practice of

you get into the habit and practice of being able to do that consistently so

being able to do that consistently so

being able to do that consistently so I’m still afraid of a lot of stuff and

I’m still afraid of a lot of stuff and

I’m still afraid of a lot of stuff and any time I recognize that I try to say

any time I recognize that I try to say

any time I recognize that I try to say okay feel the fear and do it anyway well

okay feel the fear and do it anyway well

okay feel the fear and do it anyway well anyway yeah and i think that’s that’s

anyway yeah and i think that’s that’s

anyway yeah and i think that’s that’s part of the life journey because fear in

part of the life journey because fear in

part of the life journey because fear in itself is learned behavior isn’t it it’s

itself is learned behavior isn’t it it’s

itself is learned behavior isn’t it it’s um it’s something you pick up as a child

um it’s something you pick up as a child

um it’s something you pick up as a child because as a child you touch fire you

because as a child you touch fire you

because as a child you touch fire you don’t know it’s fine you know you

don’t know it’s fine you know you

don’t know it’s fine you know you realize afterwards that oppa should have

realize afterwards that oppa should have

realize afterwards that oppa should have touched that that’s exploring me or it’s

touched that that’s exploring me or it’s

touched that that’s exploring me or it’s hurting so that’s that’s that’s feared

hurting so that’s that’s that’s feared

hurting so that’s that’s that’s feared and self being learned as you grow but

and self being learned as you grow but

and self being learned as you grow but um I think there’s some natural things

um I think there’s some natural things

um I think there’s some natural things like that I think there are like the hot

like that I think there are like the hot

like that I think there are like the hot stove over some instinctive things I

stove over some instinctive things I

stove over some instinctive things I think most of it those learned i think

think most of it those learned i think

think most of it those learned i think most of it is is is taught from your

most of it is is is taught from your

most of it is is is taught from your parents from your friends like if you’re

parents from your friends like if you’re

parents from your friends like if you’re afraid that you’re not going to have

afraid that you’re not going to have

afraid that you’re not going to have enough money it’s because your parents

enough money it’s because your parents

enough money it’s because your parents were afraid didn’t or they didn’t have

were afraid didn’t or they didn’t have

were afraid didn’t or they didn’t have enough money a lot of it stems from from

enough money a lot of it stems from from

enough money a lot of it stems from from learned behavior it’s definitely makes

learned behavior it’s definitely makes

learned behavior it’s definitely makes us not all learn but that allows you to

us not all learn but that allows you to

us not all learn but that allows you to change it like if you can learn it then

change it like if you can learn it then

change it like if you can learn it then you can unlearn it and it’s just around

you can unlearn it and it’s just around

you can unlearn it and it’s just around yourself with an environment where that

yourself with an environment where that

yourself with an environment where that allows you to bring the best out in

allows you to bring the best out in

allows you to bring the best out in yourself like if you’re afraid of

yourself like if you’re afraid of

yourself like if you’re afraid of failing being criticized as far because

failing being criticized as far because

failing being criticized as far because you were criticized a lot when you were

you were criticized a lot when you were

you were criticized a lot when you were younger and so now you’re too afraid to

younger and so now you’re too afraid to

younger and so now you’re too afraid to do anything because you were so critical

do anything because you were so critical

do anything because you were so critical one of the reasons why I’m able to do

one of the reasons why I’m able to do

one of the reasons why I’m able to do what i do is my parents always made me

what i do is my parents always made me

what i do is my parents always made me believe like believe comes from them

believe like believe comes from them

believe like believe comes from them they’re on if you can see there that’s

they’re on if you can see there that’s

they’re on if you can see there that’s me when I was like six or seven those of

me when I was like six or seven those of

me when I was like six or seven those of my parents they always told me that I

my parents they always told me that I

my parents they always told me that I was like australie Carmichael and I can

was like australie Carmichael and I can

was like australie Carmichael and I can do anything that I want my mom’s last

do anything that I want my mom’s last

do anything that I want my mom’s last name is cuz truly and so then dating

name is cuz truly and so then dating

name is cuz truly and so then dating really criticized me for trying to do

really criticized me for trying to do

really criticized me for trying to do stuff and that’s allowed all three of us

stuff and that’s allowed all three of us

stuff and that’s allowed all three of us who are two siblings two sisters to go

who are two siblings two sisters to go

who are two siblings two sisters to go out in and chase unexpected things none

out in and chase unexpected things none

out in and chase unexpected things none of us follow the traditional job path

of us follow the traditional job path

of us follow the traditional job path when my parents were pretty traditional

when my parents were pretty traditional

when my parents were pretty traditional with their career choices all three of

with their career choices all three of

with their career choices all three of us went off and did different crazy

us went off and did different crazy

us went off and did different crazy things and they supported us and made us

things and they supported us and made us

things and they supported us and made us feel like we could do it and

feel like we could do it and

feel like we could do it and other people don’t have enough of that

other people don’t have enough of that

other people don’t have enough of that in their lives whether it’s parents or

in their lives whether it’s parents or

in their lives whether it’s parents or the videos a watch or the interviews I

the videos a watch or the interviews I

the videos a watch or the interviews I mean it’s why your fan or chat series is

mean it’s why your fan or chat series is

mean it’s why your fan or chat series is super important like listening to one of

super important like listening to one of

super important like listening to one of your interviews might be the only shot

your interviews might be the only shot

your interviews might be the only shot of inspiration that your listeners gets

of inspiration that your listeners gets

of inspiration that your listeners gets in their life that’s sad but it’s also a

in their life that’s sad but it’s also a

in their life that’s sad but it’s also a huge kind of responsibility for you two

huge kind of responsibility for you two

huge kind of responsibility for you two to turn up and give them some quality

to turn up and give them some quality

to turn up and give them some quality stuff and it’s on every person watching

stuff and it’s on every person watching

stuff and it’s on every person watching this too and listening in to don’t just

this too and listening in to don’t just

this too and listening in to don’t just accept the environment that you have

accept the environment that you have

accept the environment that you have been given like so what if your parents

been given like so what if your parents

been given like so what if your parents sucked so what if you’re from you know a

sucked so what if you’re from you know a

sucked so what if you’re from you know a country without a lot of resources like

country without a lot of resources like

country without a lot of resources like you can either just complain for the

you can either just complain for the

you can either just complain for the rest of your life that you weren’t

rest of your life that you weren’t

rest of your life that you weren’t gifted opportunities like other people

gifted opportunities like other people

gifted opportunities like other people were or you can get up and make

were or you can get up and make

were or you can get up and make something better change your environment

something better change your environment

something better change your environment change people you hang out with consume

change people you hang out with consume

change people you hang out with consume content that makes you better like you

content that makes you better like you

content that makes you better like you need to create there’s a reason why

need to create there’s a reason why

need to create there’s a reason why these people are my wall right you need

these people are my wall right you need

these people are my wall right you need to create a physical environment that

to create a physical environment that

to create a physical environment that helps you push yourself to be that best

helps you push yourself to be that best

helps you push yourself to be that best version of yourself and too many people

version of yourself and too many people

version of yourself and too many people just accept the environment that was

just accept the environment that was

just accept the environment that was given to them and that just holds them

given to them and that just holds them

given to them and that just holds them where they are yeah i agree with that i

where they are yeah i agree with that i

where they are yeah i agree with that i think you know that environment

think you know that environment

think you know that environment sometimes becomes their excuse as well

sometimes becomes their excuse as well

sometimes becomes their excuse as well without them achieve and realizing it’s

without them achieve and realizing it’s

without them achieve and realizing it’s like an inherent excuse but um what I’m

like an inherent excuse but um what I’m

like an inherent excuse but um what I’m gonna just do a little segue because I

gonna just do a little segue because I

gonna just do a little segue because I want to ask you the meeting toski you

want to ask you the meeting toski you

want to ask you the meeting toski you know at one two or three entrepreneurs

know at one two or three entrepreneurs

know at one two or three entrepreneurs right now that’s on your radar who you

right now that’s on your radar who you

right now that’s on your radar who you are either seeing seeing some amazing

are either seeing seeing some amazing

are either seeing seeing some amazing success and inspiration that you’re

success and inspiration that you’re

success and inspiration that you’re sharing that content with others who are

sharing that content with others who are

sharing that content with others who are more in the kind of last come up in the

more in the kind of last come up in the

more in the kind of last come up in the last sort of five years who would you

last sort of five years who would you

last sort of five years who would you sort of name you’re looking at content

sort of name you’re looking at content

sort of name you’re looking at content creators people creating stuff to look

creators people creating stuff to look

creators people creating stuff to look out for like inspirational stuff to

out for like inspirational stuff to

out for like inspirational stuff to watch I think just sort of entrepreneurs

watch I think just sort of entrepreneurs

watch I think just sort of entrepreneurs who you’ve seen in the last five years

who you’ve seen in the last five years

who you’ve seen in the last five years come up who you you know you share

come up who you you know you share

come up who you you know you share stories with the likes of Walt Disney

stories with the likes of Walt Disney

stories with the likes of Walt Disney and the likes of steve jobs and the real

and the likes of steve jobs and the real

and the likes of steve jobs and the real them you know these guys have been

them you know these guys have been

them you know these guys have been around you know decades but the guys

around you know decades but the guys

around you know decades but the guys have been around maybe the last five

have been around maybe the last five

have been around maybe the last five years who have done something equally

years who have done something equally

years who have done something equally amazing who who who would you sort of

amazing who who who would you sort of

amazing who who who would you sort of name drop their got it um

that’s interesting I would I would look

that’s interesting I would I would look I’m thinking people who like I’ve

I’m thinking people who like I’ve

I’m thinking people who like I’ve learned stuff from and who would inspire

learned stuff from and who would inspire

learned stuff from and who would inspire me a little bit i would go with gary

me a little bit i would go with gary

me a little bit i would go with gary vaynerchuk a lot of you guys probably

vaynerchuk a lot of you guys probably

vaynerchuk a lot of you guys probably already know him and if you’re listening

already know him and if you’re listening

already know him and if you’re listening to kind of motivation entrepreneur stuff

to kind of motivation entrepreneur stuff

to kind of motivation entrepreneur stuff more for the content he creates as well

more for the content he creates as well

more for the content he creates as well as the businesses building but a lot of

as the businesses building but a lot of

as the businesses building but a lot of great content that you can learn from

great content that you can learn from

great content that you can learn from and get inspired from and regular

and get inspired from and regular

and get inspired from and regular content too I mean this my channel but

content too I mean this my channel but

content too I mean this my channel but Gary does numbers of videos a week that

Gary does numbers of videos a week that

Gary does numbers of videos a week that you can learn from and I like consuming

you can learn from and I like consuming

you can learn from and I like consuming this stuff helps me um trying to be

this stuff helps me um trying to be

this stuff helps me um trying to be careful like mega impactful um Kanye

careful like mega impactful um Kanye

careful like mega impactful um Kanye West had a big impact on me and that’s

West had a big impact on me and that’s

West had a big impact on me and that’s within the last five years he’s on the

within the last five years he’s on the

within the last five years he’s on the wall there at the end a lot of people

wall there at the end a lot of people

wall there at the end a lot of people hate on Kanye uh and he does do a lot of

hate on Kanye uh and he does do a lot of

hate on Kanye uh and he does do a lot of crazy stuff that a lot of people can’t

crazy stuff that a lot of people can’t

crazy stuff that a lot of people can’t look past but the guy has won more

look past but the guy has won more

look past but the guy has won more grammy awards at anybody for his eighth

grammy awards at anybody for his eighth

grammy awards at anybody for his eighth in history he’s successfully

in history he’s successfully

in history he’s successfully transitioned multiple time to different

transitioned multiple time to different

transitioned multiple time to different careers and the thing about ham that I

careers and the thing about ham that I

careers and the thing about ham that I love is being unafraid to express

love is being unafraid to express

love is being unafraid to express yourself like Kanye doesn’t care yeah

yourself like Kanye doesn’t care yeah

yourself like Kanye doesn’t care yeah well he’ll go on say crazy stuff that I

well he’ll go on say crazy stuff that I

well he’ll go on say crazy stuff that I may not agree with but he’s not afraid

may not agree with but he’s not afraid

may not agree with but he’s not afraid to do it where I think a lot of us are

to do it where I think a lot of us are

to do it where I think a lot of us are too afraid to express ourselves but and

too afraid to express ourselves but and

too afraid to express ourselves but and it’s about doing it now you know that

it’s about doing it now you know that

it’s about doing it now you know that that picture they are some a radio

that picture they are some a radio

that picture they are some a radio interview that he did where he was going

interview that he did where he was going

interview that he did where he was going on about you know I don’t want to sit

on about you know I don’t want to sit

on about you know I don’t want to sit inside a corporation for 20 years you

inside a corporation for 20 years you

inside a corporation for 20 years you know the time is now the time is now to

know the time is now the time is now to

know the time is now the time is now to be the greatest view the time was now to

be the greatest view the time was now to

be the greatest view the time was now to express herself to go and claim what’s

express herself to go and claim what’s

express herself to go and claim what’s yours and so that’s that like in urgency

yours and so that’s that like in urgency

yours and so that’s that like in urgency and expressing yourself as things that

and expressing yourself as things that

and expressing yourself as things that I’ve learned from him part of why I’ve

I’ve learned from him part of why I’ve

I’ve learned from him part of why I’ve turned up to like watch a lot of his

turned up to like watch a lot of his

turned up to like watch a lot of his stuff helps me turn up in not offending

stuff helps me turn up in not offending

stuff helps me turn up in not offending people but to be the better version of

people but to be the better version of

people but to be the better version of myself and the third person from the

myself and the third person from the

myself and the third person from the past five years has had a big impact

what are you on the spot with this one

what are you on the spot with this one but i think you know it’s that we’ve

but i think you know it’s that we’ve

but i think you know it’s that we’ve just seen so much trajectory in

just seen so much trajectory in

just seen so much trajectory in entrepreneur

entrepreneur

entrepreneur in the last five years I think and

in the last five years I think and

in the last five years I think and absolutely i mean this concept like the

absolutely i mean this concept like the

absolutely i mean this concept like the easy answer is like elon musk ox or any

easy answer is like elon musk ox or any

easy answer is like elon musk ox or any of these guys but it’s not they hasn’t

of these guys but it’s not they hasn’t

of these guys but it’s not they hasn’t had like a massive impact on me where I

had like a massive impact on me where I

had like a massive impact on me where I look at Elon I mean one thing I love I

look at Elon I mean one thing I love I

look at Elon I mean one thing I love I love learning from different people to

love learning from different people to

love learning from different people to make me the best version of me that’s

make me the best version of me that’s

make me the best version of me that’s the that’s the that’s the thesis of my

the that’s the that’s the thesis of my

the that’s the that’s the thesis of my channel right is having all of these

channel right is having all of these

channel right is having all of these famous successful people whether the

famous successful people whether the

famous successful people whether the entrepreneurs are athletes are singers

entrepreneurs are athletes are singers

entrepreneurs are athletes are singers or inventors or whatever and I can learn

or inventors or whatever and I can learn

or inventors or whatever and I can learn something from this person to help me be

something from this person to help me be

something from this person to help me be better you know you could learn

better you know you could learn

better you know you could learn something from Donald Trump even if you

something from Donald Trump even if you

something from Donald Trump even if you hate him you can learn something from

hate him you can learn something from

hate him you can learn something from Hillary Clinton even if you hate her I

Hillary Clinton even if you hate her I

Hillary Clinton even if you hate her I don’t know who the new zealand

don’t know who the new zealand

don’t know who the new zealand politicians and people are but like you

politicians and people are but like you

politicians and people are but like you know somebody actually hate you can

know somebody actually hate you can

know somebody actually hate you can learn from them to make you better so

learn from them to make you better so

learn from them to make you better so Elon Musk one of the things I love what

Elon Musk one of the things I love what

Elon Musk one of the things I love what Elon Musk besides like the thinking big

Elon Musk besides like the thinking big

Elon Musk besides like the thinking big in the great visions and you know he

in the great visions and you know he

in the great visions and you know he sees the world totally different that’s

sees the world totally different that’s

sees the world totally different that’s like the easy go-to thing one of the

like the easy go-to thing one of the

like the easy go-to thing one of the things that blows me with Elon Musk is

things that blows me with Elon Musk is

things that blows me with Elon Musk is he is not afraid to say he doesn’t know

he is not afraid to say he doesn’t know

he is not afraid to say he doesn’t know he was at he’s on multiple interviews

he was at he’s on multiple interviews

he was at he’s on multiple interviews and like we watch all this stuff and

and like we watch all this stuff and

and like we watch all this stuff and pull together the best resources he was

pull together the best resources he was

pull together the best resources he was on interview with CNN talking about how

on interview with CNN talking about how

on interview with CNN talking about how artificial intelligence is the biggest

artificial intelligence is the biggest

artificial intelligence is the biggest threat to mankind right and he’s

threat to mankind right and he’s

threat to mankind right and he’s creating he wants governments to donate

creating he wants governments to donate

creating he wants governments to donate one percent of GDP to colonize Mars

one percent of GDP to colonize Mars

one percent of GDP to colonize Mars because he’s afraid we’re gonna

because he’s afraid we’re gonna

because he’s afraid we’re gonna self-destruct and it’s a back-up plan

self-destruct and it’s a back-up plan

self-destruct and it’s a back-up plan for Earth so that’s thinking big right

for Earth so that’s thinking big right

for Earth so that’s thinking big right like I want to make my city better this

like I want to make my city better this

like I want to make my city better this guy is trying to have a back-up plan for

guy is trying to have a back-up plan for

guy is trying to have a back-up plan for Earth but what so I mean that’s the

Earth but what so I mean that’s the

Earth but what so I mean that’s the thinking big but what what I loved about

thinking big but what what I loved about

thinking big but what what I loved about it was she was asking him about like how

it was she was asking him about like how

it was she was asking him about like how it would take place or you know where do

it would take place or you know where do

it would take place or you know where do you see the rise of the robots happening

you see the rise of the robots happening

you see the rise of the robots happening and he’s like you know I don’t know yeah

and he’s like you know I don’t know yeah

and he’s like you know I don’t know yeah well x is like I don’t know like would

well x is like I don’t know like would

well x is like I don’t know like would you go on CNN and just say I don’t know

you go on CNN and just say I don’t know

you go on CNN and just say I don’t know it’s a question that I just know the

it’s a question that I just know the

it’s a question that I just know the answer to is the expert it it’s just a

answer to is the expert it it’s just a

answer to is the expert it it’s just a level of confidence and not caring about

level of confidence and not caring about

level of confidence and not caring about how again he would be judged by the

how again he would be judged by the

how again he would be judged by the media and the people watching it was

media and the people watching it was

media and the people watching it was just super interesting to me helps me

just super interesting to me helps me

just super interesting to me helps me kind of reflect on myself

kind of reflect on myself

kind of reflect on myself and so I try to pull out those moments

and so I try to pull out those moments

and so I try to pull out those moments from lots of different people yeah but I

from lots of different people yeah but I

from lots of different people yeah but I don’t think I don’t think there’s

don’t think I don’t think there’s

don’t think I don’t think there’s anybody I don’t know there’s a third

anybody I don’t know there’s a third

anybody I don’t know there’s a third person I’m probably missing somebody but

person I’m probably missing somebody but

person I’m probably missing somebody but big impact on me over the past five

big impact on me over the past five

big impact on me over the past five years I probably go with those two maybe

years I probably go with those two maybe

years I probably go with those two maybe me the future founder chat series next

me the future founder chat series next

me the future founder chat series next five years the founder Chad series could

five years the founder Chad series could

five years the founder Chad series could have that level of impact who knows who

have that level of impact who knows who

have that level of impact who knows who knows what the future holds we’re gonna

knows what the future holds we’re gonna

knows what the future holds we’re gonna see what we receive if we can turn the

see what we receive if we can turn the

see what we receive if we can turn the uncertainty into some certainty there

uncertainty into some certainty there

uncertainty into some certainty there but um you know it’s funny you mentioned

but um you know it’s funny you mentioned

but um you know it’s funny you mentioned Kanye West because i was reading the

Kanye West because i was reading the

Kanye West because i was reading the other day that you had an idea to turn

other day that you had an idea to turn

other day that you had an idea to turn his next album into a

his next album into a

his next album into a software-as-a-service startup could

software-as-a-service startup could

software-as-a-service startup could raise some funds through silicon valley

raise some funds through silicon valley

raise some funds through silicon valley for that so that’s that’s kind of the

for that so that’s that’s kind of the

for that so that’s that’s kind of the method of just thinking in a mad way to

method of just thinking in a mad way to

method of just thinking in a mad way to reinvent the music industry so I the way

reinvent the music industry so I the way

reinvent the music industry so I the way I sort of agree with you I think he does

I sort of agree with you I think he does

I sort of agree with you I think he does think outside the box a lot with his

think outside the box a lot with his

think outside the box a lot with his with his ideas and concepts so it’s

with his ideas and concepts so it’s

with his ideas and concepts so it’s pretty cool and most people can’t

pretty cool and most people can’t

pretty cool and most people can’t differentiate like you see a person and

differentiate like you see a person and

differentiate like you see a person and unless they like like you don’t like one

unless they like like you don’t like one

unless they like like you don’t like one thing about them then I can’t i’m not

thing about them then I can’t i’m not

thing about them then I can’t i’m not i’m not paying attention to them they

i’m not paying attention to them they

i’m not paying attention to them they can’t pull out they can’t ignore the

can’t pull out they can’t ignore the

can’t pull out they can’t ignore the things that they hate to be able to pull

things that they hate to be able to pull

things that they hate to be able to pull the things that they love like steve

the things that they love like steve

the things that they love like steve jobs you know he’s on the walls had a

jobs you know he’s on the walls had a

jobs you know he’s on the walls had a big impact on me but he you know was not

big impact on me but he you know was not

big impact on me but he you know was not a great manager of people like yelling

a great manager of people like yelling

a great manager of people like yelling at people berating people hard to get

at people berating people hard to get

at people berating people hard to get along with it’s not something that I

along with it’s not something that I

along with it’s not something that I personally agree with something I would

personally agree with something I would

personally agree with something I would want to be as a leader in terms of

want to be as a leader in terms of

want to be as a leader in terms of leading the team mmm but that’s fine

leading the team mmm but that’s fine

leading the team mmm but that’s fine like I don’t want to be any of these

like I don’t want to be any of these

like I don’t want to be any of these guys I want to be me I’ll be the best

guys I want to be me I’ll be the best

guys I want to be me I’ll be the best version of me and I can pull from

version of me and I can pull from

version of me and I can pull from everybody here to do that and all the

everybody here to do that and all the

everybody here to do that and all the people who are watching the videos and

people who are watching the videos and

people who are watching the videos and so it just blows our mind that people

so it just blows our mind that people

so it just blows our mind that people are so limited in where they can learn

are so limited in where they can learn

are so limited in where they can learn from like if you have a guest on your

from like if you have a guest on your

from like if you have a guest on your show who’s super controversial or me and

show who’s super controversial or me and

show who’s super controversial or me and me like maybe I’m saying something that

me like maybe I’m saying something that

me like maybe I’m saying something that really bothers some but I pissed off the

really bothers some but I pissed off the

really bothers some but I pissed off the Australians who are like I mean because

Australians who are like I mean because

Australians who are like I mean because I said New Zealanders are nicer and now

I said New Zealanders are nicer and now

I said New Zealanders are nicer and now they’re like shut themselves off to

they’re like shut themselves off to

they’re like shut themselves off to learning because I said one thing that

learning because I said one thing that

learning because I said one thing that didn’t agree with all right so people

didn’t agree with all right so people

didn’t agree with all right so people see the world through that lens but the

see the world through that lens but the

see the world through that lens but the australia new zones a bit like canada

australia new zones a bit like canada

australia new zones a bit like canada USA go ah canadians have us envy in that

USA go ah canadians have us envy in that

USA go ah canadians have us envy in that you know we compare ourselves to them

you know we compare ourselves to them

you know we compare ourselves to them and we do a lot of trade with them and a

and we do a lot of trade with them and a

and we do a lot of trade with them and a lot of our economy is tied to them

lot of our economy is tied to them

lot of our economy is tied to them Americans don’t pay attention to Canada

Americans don’t pay attention to Canada

Americans don’t pay attention to Canada okay honest like it they don’t care ah

okay honest like it they don’t care ah

okay honest like it they don’t care ah it’s it’s like a state almost to them

it’s it’s like a state almost to them

it’s it’s like a state almost to them they don’t Americans have great

they don’t Americans have great

they don’t Americans have great confidence in general and are very

confidence in general and are very

confidence in general and are very insular where Canadians have to be more

insular where Canadians have to be more

insular where Canadians have to be more global and think figure because our

global and think figure because our

global and think figure because our economy can’t support just ourselves and

economy can’t support just ourselves and

economy can’t support just ourselves and so this yeah I don’t know I don’t know

so this yeah I don’t know I don’t know

so this yeah I don’t know I don’t know what the relationship is new zealand

what the relationship is new zealand

what the relationship is new zealand australia um there’s not many things we

australia um there’s not many things we

australia um there’s not many things we can peed on like maybe hockey canadians

can peed on like maybe hockey canadians

can peed on like maybe hockey canadians love hockey the Americans are okay at

love hockey the Americans are okay at

love hockey the Americans are okay at hockey so that’s a big rivalry I guess

hockey so that’s a big rivalry I guess

hockey so that’s a big rivalry I guess um that yeah it’s very similar you know

um that yeah it’s very similar you know

um that yeah it’s very similar you know New Zealand’s were a population of very

New Zealand’s were a population of very

New Zealand’s were a population of very four and a half million approximately so

four and a half million approximately so

four and a half million approximately so you know we we have got a history of the

you know we we have got a history of the

you know we we have got a history of the innovative and gold with a global

innovative and gold with a global

innovative and gold with a global context in what we do exports a major

context in what we do exports a major

context in what we do exports a major part of what what a country does so it’s

part of what what a country does so it’s

part of what what a country does so it’s you know we just kind of have to by

you know we just kind of have to by

you know we just kind of have to by default we just kind of have to do that

default we just kind of have to do that

default we just kind of have to do that you know otherwise we’re just looking

you know otherwise we’re just looking

you know otherwise we’re just looking after our own economy and for our people

after our own economy and for our people

after our own economy and for our people so cool well I mean we’re bumping up

so cool well I mean we’re bumping up

so cool well I mean we’re bumping up against the clock for people who want to

against the clock for people who want to

against the clock for people who want to learn more about you founder trance

learn more about you founder trance

learn more about you founder trance series what’s the best way to get in

series what’s the best way to get in

series what’s the best way to get in touch I would I would love it if you

touch I would I would love it if you

touch I would I would love it if you guys jump on to like i said earlier jump

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I start going to go live I would as soon

I start going to go live I would as soon as I get a copy from you it’s gonna go

as I get a copy from you it’s gonna go

as I get a copy from you it’s gonna go alright well it goes live on YouTube

alright well it goes live on YouTube

alright well it goes live on YouTube like 10 minutes or 30 minutes maybe

like 10 minutes or 30 minutes maybe

like 10 minutes or 30 minutes maybe after after the session stuff Oh awesome

after after the session stuff Oh awesome

after after the session stuff Oh awesome to meet you man thanks for the great

to meet you man thanks for the great

to meet you man thanks for the great questions and waking up even though it

questions and waking up even though it

questions and waking up even though it looks like it’s two in the morning over

looks like it’s two in the morning over

looks like it’s two in the morning over there thank you for sharing the great

there thank you for sharing the great

there thank you for sharing the great questions thank you everybody for

questions thank you everybody for

questions thank you everybody for watching still like tons of question

watching still like tons of question

watching still like tons of question that we even get to but appreciate you

that we even get to but appreciate you

that we even get to but appreciate you guys watching have an amazing evening

guys watching have an amazing evening

guys watching have an amazing evening day continue to believe and we’ll see

day continue to believe and we’ll see

day continue to believe and we’ll see you soon thanks Evan see you in serato

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