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Evan Carmichael Radio Show – Episode #9


blowin welcome to the Evan Carmichael

blowin welcome to the Evan Carmichael show I believe in entrepreneurs and I

show I believe in entrepreneurs and I

show I believe in entrepreneurs and I want to see you achieve success with

want to see you achieve success with

want to see you achieve success with your company every week I deal with

your company every week I deal with

your company every week I deal with thousands of entrepreneurs who are

thousands of entrepreneurs who are

thousands of entrepreneurs who are frustrated or struggling who think they

frustrated or struggling who think they

frustrated or struggling who think they have a great product or service but

have a great product or service but

have a great product or service but you’re not getting the results that you

you’re not getting the results that you

you’re not getting the results that you want and I’ve been there I was a guy who

want and I’ve been there I was a guy who

want and I’ve been there I was a guy who is making 300 bucks a month could barely

is making 300 bucks a month could barely

is making 300 bucks a month could barely survive on my company almost quit

survive on my company almost quit

survive on my company almost quit multiple times and I finally cracked the

multiple times and I finally cracked the

multiple times and I finally cracked the code I made it through and this radio

code I made it through and this radio

code I made it through and this radio show is all about helping you guys do

show is all about helping you guys do

show is all about helping you guys do the same I’m going to pull you with me

the same I’m going to pull you with me

the same I’m going to pull you with me we’re going to achieve some success

we’re going to achieve some success

we’re going to achieve some success together I’m excited about the program

together I’m excited about the program

together I’m excited about the program today on the agenda did I start smaller

today on the agenda did I start smaller

today on the agenda did I start smaller think big how to get in the state of

think big how to get in the state of

think big how to get in the state of flow don’t compete on price and what to

flow don’t compete on price and what to

flow don’t compete on price and what to do when you’re frustrated I get this

do when you’re frustrated I get this

do when you’re frustrated I get this question a lot should I start small or

question a lot should I start small or

question a lot should I start small or think big and this is this is such an

think big and this is this is such an

think big and this is this is such an important learning to laugh you guys

important learning to laugh you guys

important learning to laugh you guys today if you are starting the business

today if you are starting the business

today if you are starting the business if you’re trying to think about should I

if you’re trying to think about should I

if you’re trying to think about should I just start small should i do it stop

just start small should i do it stop

just start small should i do it stop this opera or should I go for my big

this opera or should I go for my big

this opera or should I go for my big vision I got a great question that came

vision I got a great question that came

vision I got a great question that came in from Peter who’s on my youtube

in from Peter who’s on my youtube

in from Peter who’s on my youtube channel who is thinking about starting

channel who is thinking about starting

channel who is thinking about starting up a gym and he’s not sure if you should

up a gym and he’s not sure if you should

up a gym and he’s not sure if you should just rent from other gyms and test this

just rent from other gyms and test this

just rent from other gyms and test this concept or if it just go big and you

concept or if it just go big and you

concept or if it just go big and you know go after the big picture open up

know go after the big picture open up

know go after the big picture open up his own gym they got a huge loan and go

his own gym they got a huge loan and go

his own gym they got a huge loan and go for it here’s the thing okay this is

for it here’s the thing okay this is

for it here’s the thing okay this is what’s really important I want you to

what’s really important I want you to

what’s really important I want you to think big but start small the reason why

think big but start small the reason why

think big but start small the reason why it’s so important is because no matter

it’s so important is because no matter

it’s so important is because no matter how great a business plan you have at

how great a business plan you have at

how great a business plan you have at the start you’re going to make mistakes

the start you’re going to make mistakes

the start you’re going to make mistakes you’re going to have incorrect

you’re going to have incorrect

you’re going to have incorrect assumption if you look at any successful

assumption if you look at any successful

assumption if you look at any successful company you look at the first product or

company you look at the first product or

company you look at the first product or service that came up with that’s never

service that came up with that’s never

service that came up with that’s never the one that they hit it big with they

the one that they hit it big with they

the one that they hit it big with they always have to adapt to the market they

always have to adapt to the market they

always have to adapt to the market they always have to make changes so if my

always have to make changes so if my

always have to make changes so if my friend Peter here goes out takes out a

friend Peter here goes out takes out a

friend Peter here goes out takes out a huge loan cashes in his retirement

huge loan cashes in his retirement

huge loan cashes in his retirement savings goes all ends open up this huge

savings goes all ends open up this huge

savings goes all ends open up this huge gym

gym

gym it’s going to make huge mistakes and

it’s going to make huge mistakes and

it’s going to make huge mistakes and it’s probably not going to work out it

it’s probably not going to work out it

it’s probably not going to work out it could there’s a chance it might work out

could there’s a chance it might work out

could there’s a chance it might work out but it’s such a tiny chance where it’s

but it’s such a tiny chance where it’s

but it’s such a tiny chance where it’s much better to start small making

much better to start small making

much better to start small making mistakes on a small scale find something

mistakes on a small scale find something

mistakes on a small scale find something that works and then invest in making

that works and then invest in making

that works and then invest in making that better I’m an investor in a salsa

that better I’m an investor in a salsa

that better I’m an investor in a salsa dancing company here in Toronto and

dancing company here in Toronto and

dancing company here in Toronto and we’ll help five six thousand students a

we’ll help five six thousand students a

we’ll help five six thousand students a year learn how to dance salsa and the

year learn how to dance salsa and the

year learn how to dance salsa and the company was started by a woman who had

company was started by a woman who had

company was started by a woman who had no business experience she had never

no business experience she had never

no business experience she had never done anything as an arch firm before

done anything as an arch firm before

done anything as an arch firm before it’s always been corporate work she

it’s always been corporate work she

it’s always been corporate work she worked at the marriott in HR and when

worked at the marriott in HR and when

worked at the marriott in HR and when she started the company she started just

she started the company she started just

she started the company she started just renting out of Jim’s the cost of 40

renting out of Jim’s the cost of 40

renting out of Jim’s the cost of 40 bucks an hour she was the only

bucks an hour she was the only

bucks an hour she was the only instructor she had no overhead no cost

instructor she had no overhead no cost

instructor she had no overhead no cost except for her studio at 40 bucks an

except for her studio at 40 bucks an

except for her studio at 40 bucks an hour fast forward to today a few years

hour fast forward to today a few years

hour fast forward to today a few years later she’s got her own studio at a

later she’s got her own studio at a

later she’s got her own studio at a popular mall costing a hundred thousand

popular mall costing a hundred thousand

popular mall costing a hundred thousand dollars a year to maintain plus salaries

dollars a year to maintain plus salaries

dollars a year to maintain plus salaries of instructors bus admin costs bus

of instructors bus admin costs bus

of instructors bus admin costs bus marketing costs all these additional

marketing costs all these additional

marketing costs all these additional costs but she’s built it up because it

costs but she’s built it up because it

costs but she’s built it up because it worked at a small scale she tweaked her

worked at a small scale she tweaked her

worked at a small scale she tweaked her model and everything has changed and

model and everything has changed and

model and everything has changed and when she first started what she teaches

when she first started what she teaches

when she first started what she teaches has changed how she taught it has

has changed how she taught it has

has changed how she taught it has changed the class structure has changed

changed the class structure has changed

changed the class structure has changed who she brings on board has changed

who she brings on board has changed

who she brings on board has changed she’s made a lot of mistakes and learn

she’s made a lot of mistakes and learn

she’s made a lot of mistakes and learn from them along the way and it’s helped

from them along the way and it’s helped

from them along the way and it’s helped her quickly build up a highly successful

her quickly build up a highly successful

her quickly build up a highly successful enterprise that’s why I wanted to be a

enterprise that’s why I wanted to be a

enterprise that’s why I wanted to be a part of it if she had gone out and said

part of it if she had gone out and said

part of it if she had gone out and said you know what I’m going to I’m going to

you know what I’m going to I’m going to

you know what I’m going to I’m going to take out a loan I’m going to go and take

take out a loan I’m going to go and take

take out a loan I’m going to go and take the hundred thousand dollars and the

the hundred thousand dollars and the

the hundred thousand dollars and the type of thousands a year for five years

type of thousands a year for five years

type of thousands a year for five years minimum if you’re looking at a corporate

minimum if you’re looking at a corporate

minimum if you’re looking at a corporate commercial real estate I’m going to go

commercial real estate I’m going to go

commercial real estate I’m going to go and take out this loan I’m going to cash

and take out this loan I’m going to cash

and take out this loan I’m going to cash in my retirement savings it wouldn’t

in my retirement savings it wouldn’t

in my retirement savings it wouldn’t have worked out she would have made too

have worked out she would have made too

have worked out she would have made too many mistakes all at once and she would

many mistakes all at once and she would

many mistakes all at once and she would have failed and she’d be back at her

have failed and she’d be back at her

have failed and she’d be back at her marry a job and potentially in debt for

marry a job and potentially in debt for

marry a job and potentially in debt for the rest of her life

the rest of her life

the rest of her life it’s important to think big I want you

it’s important to think big I want you

it’s important to think big I want you to think bigger wanted have a big vision

to think bigger wanted have a big vision

to think bigger wanted have a big vision for yourself that’s what keeps you going

for yourself that’s what keeps you going

for yourself that’s what keeps you going every day but start small test see what

every day but start small test see what

every day but start small test see what works and continue to apply those

works and continue to apply those

works and continue to apply those changes to your business that you’ve

changes to your business that you’ve

changes to your business that you’ve success I want to get to called I have

success I want to get to called I have

success I want to get to called I have Megan on the line Megan where are you

Megan on the line Megan where are you

Megan on the line Megan where are you from and how can I help hi Evan yes hi

from and how can I help hi Evan yes hi

from and how can I help hi Evan yes hi how are you today Jared what’s going on

how are you today Jared what’s going on

how are you today Jared what’s going on ever has a question it’s not really

ever has a question it’s not really

ever has a question it’s not really about it you know I go a retail or

about it you know I go a retail or

about it you know I go a retail or physical business but my question is in

physical business but my question is in

physical business but my question is in terms of how much money you put into an

terms of how much money you put into an

terms of how much money you put into an endeavor this particular of business or

endeavor this particular of business or

endeavor this particular of business or personal endeavor I’m talking about is

personal endeavor I’m talking about is

personal endeavor I’m talking about is more they are just the creative line

more they are just the creative line

more they are just the creative line okay and you know like I failed at it

okay and you know like I failed at it

okay and you know like I failed at it you know like I keep putting money into

you know like I keep putting money into

you know like I keep putting money into it but I get very little return

it but I get very little return

it but I get very little return monetarily from it so that my question

monetarily from it so that my question

monetarily from it so that my question is how long she wants continue in this

is how long she wants continue in this

is how long she wants continue in this particular you know babe until then

particular you know babe until then

particular you know babe until then until they start making money meaning if

until they start making money meaning if

until they start making money meaning if I put in ten thousand dollars i’m lucky

I put in ten thousand dollars i’m lucky

I put in ten thousand dollars i’m lucky to see 1,500 back an actual earnings why

to see 1,500 back an actual earnings why

to see 1,500 back an actual earnings why are you doing this what is the block

are you doing this what is the block

are you doing this what is the block right why do you care about it well I

right why do you care about it well I

right why do you care about it well I really like it I find it so say

really like it I find it so say

really like it I find it so say something that makes me happy I always

something that makes me happy I always

something that makes me happy I always wanted to do it it’s very self

wanted to do it it’s very self

wanted to do it it’s very self actualized what is the vision well it’s

actualized what is the vision well it’s

actualized what is the vision well it’s an art business you’re making art I’m

an art business you’re making art I’m

an art business you’re making art I’m making it but at the same time I’m

making it but at the same time I’m

making it but at the same time I’m making it i’m constantly put it on your

making it i’m constantly put it on your

making it i’m constantly put it on your spending money is taking more art more

spending money is taking more art more

spending money is taking more art more art classes like you know spend money to

art classes like you know spend money to

art classes like you know spend money to go into art shows and you know what i

go into art shows and you know what i

go into art shows and you know what i get for each of gazing is very very

get for each of gazing is very very

get for each of gazing is very very little right you know versus what I’m

little right you know versus what I’m

little right you know versus what I’m putting into it so I want to know what

putting into it so I want to know what

putting into it so I want to know what company is should I give myself or

company is should I give myself or

company is should I give myself or should anybody give themselves like one

should anybody give themselves like one

should anybody give themselves like one year two years three years here’s the

year two years three years here’s the

year two years three years here’s the thing okay it’s a struggle for every

thing okay it’s a struggle for every

thing okay it’s a struggle for every entrepreneur who starting up nobody

entrepreneur who starting up nobody

entrepreneur who starting up nobody looks back

looks back

looks back oh that was so he starting a business

oh that was so he starting a business

oh that was so he starting a business right and you’re you’re in the struggle

right and you’re you’re in the struggle

right and you’re you’re in the struggle mode right now right right what gets you

mode right now right right what gets you

mode right now right right what gets you through right is the love of what you’re

through right is the love of what you’re

through right is the love of what you’re doing and you do it to do it you’re not

doing and you do it to do it you’re not

doing and you do it to do it you’re not I mean it because you think you’re going

I mean it because you think you’re going

I mean it because you think you’re going to try to make a lot of money of it that

to try to make a lot of money of it that

to try to make a lot of money of it that can happen but you’re doing it to do it

can happen but you’re doing it to do it

can happen but you’re doing it to do it if you look at any successful famous

if you look at any successful famous

if you look at any successful famous entrepreneur and how they got started

entrepreneur and how they got started

entrepreneur and how they got started hey they had failure after failure

hey they had failure after failure

hey they had failure after failure failure and people told them go back and

failure and people told them go back and

failure and people told them go back and get a job this isn’t for you it’s ever

get a job this isn’t for you it’s ever

get a job this isn’t for you it’s ever going to work out one of my favorite

going to work out one of my favorite

going to work out one of my favorite examples is kind of close to what you’re

examples is kind of close to what you’re

examples is kind of close to what you’re doing is George Lucas you know George

doing is George Lucas you know George

doing is George Lucas you know George Lucas yeah a producer yeah created Star

Lucas yeah a producer yeah created Star

Lucas yeah a producer yeah created Star Wars Indiana Jones you went to film

Wars Indiana Jones you went to film

Wars Indiana Jones you went to film school and people thought you’re crazy

school and people thought you’re crazy

school and people thought you’re crazy why are you going to go to film school

why are you going to go to film school

why are you going to go to film school you’re never going to get a job in the

you’re never going to get a job in the

you’re never going to get a job in the film industry it’s not going to work out

film industry it’s not going to work out

film industry it’s not going to work out and he spent six years of failure this

and he spent six years of failure this

and he spent six years of failure this failure reserved mediocre work nobody

failure reserved mediocre work nobody

failure reserved mediocre work nobody wanted to find what he was selling it

wanted to find what he was selling it

wanted to find what he was selling it and he thought constantly about going

and he thought constantly about going

and he thought constantly about going back and getting the job but he only

back and getting the job but he only

back and getting the job but he only stuck with it because he loves what he

stuck with it because he loves what he

stuck with it because he loves what he was doing early and eventually it turned

was doing early and eventually it turned

was doing early and eventually it turned out to be a huge success with star wars

out to be a huge success with star wars

out to be a huge success with star wars and indiana jones and all the other

and indiana jones and all the other

and indiana jones and all the other films he’s created so the question

films he’s created so the question

films he’s created so the question really is how much you love your art oh

really is how much you love your art oh

really is how much you love your art oh and is this hard to do that you

and is this hard to do that you

and is this hard to do that you can’t was going you’re doing this for

can’t was going you’re doing this for

can’t was going you’re doing this for you know what do you think oh well I had

you know what do you think oh well I had

you know what do you think oh well I had to give you a little more time level 6

to give you a little more time level 6

to give you a little more time level 6 to 12 months but funding nurses and so

to 12 months but funding nurses and so

to 12 months but funding nurses and so pro is different anything if you really

pro is different anything if you really

pro is different anything if you really love this thing if you love this so much

love this thing if you love this so much

love this thing if you love this so much with all your heart then you would find

with all your heart then you would find

with all your heart then you would find other ways even to make money just to do

other ways even to make money just to do

other ways even to make money just to do this because you’ve got this around

this because you’ve got this around

this because you’ve got this around running for mayor okay she seems

running for mayor okay she seems

running for mayor okay she seems late and more shows etc what other

late and more shows etc what other

late and more shows etc what other Kuiper to do another job no there’s no

Kuiper to do another job no there’s no

Kuiper to do another job no there’s no tight answer here there’s no hay in six

tight answer here there’s no hay in six

tight answer here there’s no hay in six months of doesn’t work you gotta quit I

months of doesn’t work you gotta quit I

months of doesn’t work you gotta quit I it’s listening to your heart and

it’s listening to your heart and

it’s listening to your heart and understanding why you’re doing this

understanding why you’re doing this

understanding why you’re doing this basically and maybe what might help you

basically and maybe what might help you

basically and maybe what might help you is to look at famous entrepreneur

is to look at famous entrepreneur

is to look at famous entrepreneur someone you respect and looked up to and

someone you respect and looked up to and

someone you respect and looked up to and look at their early struggles and see if

look at their early struggles and see if

look at their early struggles and see if there’s a lesson you can learn from

there’s a lesson you can learn from

there’s a lesson you can learn from their success all the reminded of Oprah

their success all the reminded of Oprah

their success all the reminded of Oprah Winfrey to and when she started he said

Winfrey to and when she started he said

Winfrey to and when she started he said that she would she had to do this she

that she would she had to do this she

that she would she had to do this she had to keep doing this even if she

had to keep doing this even if she

had to keep doing this even if she didn’t see it because she had to keep

didn’t see it because she had to keep

didn’t see it because she had to keep going because she loved it and she would

going because she loved it and she would

going because she loved it and she would find other ways to make money to keep

find other ways to make money to keep

find other ways to make money to keep doing this because she loved it so much

doing this because she loved it so much

doing this because she loved it so much I end up in washing for longer aren’t

I end up in washing for longer aren’t

I end up in washing for longer aren’t that much is this just a hobby a side

that much is this just a hobby a side

that much is this just a hobby a side thing and something to experiment or is

thing and something to experiment or is

thing and something to experiment or is this part of who you are no I I really

this part of who you are no I I really

this part of who you are no I I really you know I really love it and it’s

you know I really love it and it’s

you know I really love it and it’s actually expecting no periphery which is

actually expecting no periphery which is

actually expecting no periphery which is why I decided to do it because it has

why I decided to do it because it has

why I decided to do it because it has been saving from rental from my other

been saving from rental from my other

been saving from rental from my other job don’t you love it when I was working

job don’t you love it when I was working

job don’t you love it when I was working yeah I do it that much if you have to

yeah I do it that much if you have to

yeah I do it that much if you have to find a way to keep going if you love it

find a way to keep going if you love it

find a way to keep going if you love it if this is part of who you are you’re

if this is part of who you are you’re

if this is part of who you are you’re making a difference you have to find the

making a difference you have to find the

making a difference you have to find the way people you do not means taking on a

way people you do not means taking on a

way people you do not means taking on a part-time job and so intelligent keep

part-time job and so intelligent keep

part-time job and so intelligent keep going okay i will i will thank you very

going okay i will i will thank you very

going okay i will i will thank you very much evidence thank you good luck I

much evidence thank you good luck I

much evidence thank you good luck I don’t acknowledge everybody has the same

don’t acknowledge everybody has the same

don’t acknowledge everybody has the same problem I know it’s tough it’s really

problem I know it’s tough it’s really

problem I know it’s tough it’s really tough start in the business especially

tough start in the business especially

tough start in the business especially if you’re doing something different but

if you’re doing something different but

if you’re doing something different but if you love it you owe it to yourself

if you love it you owe it to yourself

if you love it you owe it to yourself your family your community to keep going

your family your community to keep going

your family your community to keep going welcome back to daven Carmichael show I

welcome back to daven Carmichael show I

welcome back to daven Carmichael show I believe in entrepreneurs and I want d

believe in entrepreneurs and I want d

believe in entrepreneurs and I want d you have massive success with your

you have massive success with your

you have massive success with your company and part of that is getting into

company and part of that is getting into

company and part of that is getting into the state of flow I got a great question

the state of flow I got a great question

the state of flow I got a great question from one of my youtube viewers Donald

from one of my youtube viewers Donald

from one of my youtube viewers Donald who wrote in to say how do I get in the

who wrote in to say how do I get in the

who wrote in to say how do I get in the state of flow that’s when you’re in the

state of flow that’s when you’re in the

state of flow that’s when you’re in the zone that’s when you come for the great

zone that’s when you come for the great

zone that’s when you come for the great ideas that’s when you are insanely

ideas that’s when you are insanely

ideas that’s when you are insanely productive when you are coming in the

productive when you are coming in the

productive when you are coming in the computer at nine in the morning and you

computer at nine in the morning and you

computer at nine in the morning and you look up and it’s five at nine you don’t

look up and it’s five at nine you don’t

look up and it’s five at nine you don’t even know what happened during the day

even know what happened during the day

even know what happened during the day it’s so important

it’s so important

it’s so important that when you are in flow to maintain it

that when you are in flow to maintain it

that when you are in flow to maintain it how to get there it’s hard I can’t tell

how to get there it’s hard I can’t tell

how to get there it’s hard I can’t tell you how to get there but I can tell you

you how to get there but I can tell you

you how to get there but I can tell you how not to get there you’re not going to

how not to get there you’re not going to

how not to get there you’re not going to get in the flow when you’re stressed out

get in the flow when you’re stressed out

get in the flow when you’re stressed out when you’re overworked when you’re not

when you’re overworked when you’re not

when you’re overworked when you’re not sleeping well not eating while I’m not

sleeping well not eating while I’m not

sleeping well not eating while I’m not taking care of yourself when you’re just

taking care of yourself when you’re just

taking care of yourself when you’re just putting out fires constantly with your

putting out fires constantly with your

putting out fires constantly with your business you have to allow for freedom

business you have to allow for freedom

business you have to allow for freedom and flexibility to be built in think

and flexibility to be built in think

and flexibility to be built in think about when you get your best idea it’s

about when you get your best idea it’s

about when you get your best idea it’s probably when you’re on vacation when

probably when you’re on vacation when

probably when you’re on vacation when you’re in the shower when you’re

you’re in the shower when you’re

you’re in the shower when you’re chilling out when you’re in the park

chilling out when you’re in the park

chilling out when you’re in the park when you’re walking right that’s when

when you’re walking right that’s when

when you’re walking right that’s when you get your best ideas it’s never

you get your best ideas it’s never

you get your best ideas it’s never getting people down in the boardroom

getting people down in the boardroom

getting people down in the boardroom table and saying be creative right now

table and saying be creative right now

table and saying be creative right now does it work and so when flow comes you

does it work and so when flow comes you

does it work and so when flow comes you have to run with it because it’s so

have to run with it because it’s so

have to run with it because it’s so important for your business in my

important for your business in my

important for your business in my company will push off any other

company will push off any other

company will push off any other deadlines priorities when we’re in the

deadlines priorities when we’re in the

deadlines priorities when we’re in the state of flow I’ve got a great new guy

state of flow I’ve got a great new guy

state of flow I’ve got a great new guy on my team named Jason who’s working on

on my team named Jason who’s working on

on my team named Jason who’s working on some projects he helped me with my

some projects he helped me with my

some projects he helped me with my rebrand guys some mad skills and we have

rebrand guys some mad skills and we have

rebrand guys some mad skills and we have laid out a list of priorities here’s

laid out a list of priorities here’s

laid out a list of priorities here’s what we need to work on but what’s more

what we need to work on but what’s more

what we need to work on but what’s more important than anything is slow because

important than anything is slow because

important than anything is slow because if he’s feeling an idea the Jason go

if he’s feeling an idea the Jason go

if he’s feeling an idea the Jason go running with that do that even if it’s

running with that do that even if it’s

running with that do that even if it’s not on the list because what is going to

not on the list because what is going to

not on the list because what is going to make is going to be magical it’s going

make is going to be magical it’s going

make is going to be magical it’s going to be way better than forcing somebody

to be way better than forcing somebody

to be way better than forcing somebody to work on a project they’re not

to work on a project they’re not

to work on a project they’re not interested in sometimes you feel certain

interested in sometimes you feel certain

interested in sometimes you feel certain projects sometimes you don’t if you have

projects sometimes you don’t if you have

projects sometimes you don’t if you have to go with that flow it’s so important

to go with that flow it’s so important

to go with that flow it’s so important because the work is going to come out

because the work is going to come out

because the work is going to come out when you are in flow will be

when you are in flow will be

when you are in flow will be mind-blowing for your business I want to

mind-blowing for your business I want to

mind-blowing for your business I want to get to the call I have Sasha on the line

get to the call I have Sasha on the line

get to the call I have Sasha on the line Sasha where are you from and how can I

Sasha where are you from and how can I

Sasha where are you from and how can I help hello also simple Florida welcome

help hello also simple Florida welcome

help hello also simple Florida welcome to the program what’s going on well my

to the program what’s going on well my

to the program what’s going on well my question will be how did you investigate

question will be how did you investigate

question will be how did you investigate what making people not come back to your

what making people not come back to your

what making people not come back to your store how do you how do you get people

store how do you how do you get people

store how do you how do you get people not to come back to your store yes you

not to come back to your store yes you

not to come back to your store yes you don’t want people come into your store

don’t want people come into your store

don’t want people come into your store no like I have a small business and I’m

no like I have a small business and I’m

no like I have a small business and I’m trying to like any help I mean what is

trying to like any help I mean what is

trying to like any help I mean what is what is your business my business is a

what is your business my business is a

what is your business my business is a Jewish boy okay I was two years I had I

Jewish boy okay I was two years I had I

Jewish boy okay I was two years I had I had this

had this

had this for two years then nobody coming back

for two years then nobody coming back

for two years then nobody coming back imagery store they coming once but they

imagery store they coming once but they

imagery store they coming once but they don’t come back yes sir why is that do

don’t come back yes sir why is that do

don’t come back yes sir why is that do you think I don’t know I just think

you think I don’t know I just think

you think I don’t know I just think they’ve been also else I just are they

they’ve been also else I just are they

they’ve been also else I just are they buying from you or they just walk into

buying from you or they just walk into

buying from you or they just walk into they don’t come back they will do they

they don’t come back they will do they

they don’t come back they will do they walk in they buy like who I don’t and

walk in they buy like who I don’t and

walk in they buy like who I don’t and then they’ll say they’ll they’ll say

then they’ll say they’ll they’ll say

then they’ll say they’ll they’ll say they coming back but they won’t come

they coming back but they won’t come

they coming back but they won’t come back so I want a little bit quieter

back so I want a little bit quieter

back so I want a little bit quieter store what’s different what’s different

store what’s different what’s different

store what’s different what’s different there’s nothing different the same well

there’s nothing different the same well

there’s nothing different the same well that’s why people are coming back right

that’s why people are coming back right

that’s why people are coming back right you gotta have something different

you gotta have something different

you gotta have something different there’s tons of jewelry stores out there

there’s tons of jewelry stores out there

there’s tons of jewelry stores out there so what what can I have that’s different

so what what can I have that’s different

so what what can I have that’s different what can you bring that your customers

what can you bring that your customers

what can you bring that your customers are interested in that most dealers

are interested in that most dealers

are interested in that most dealers don’t provide so think about so

don’t provide so think about so

don’t provide so think about so somebody’s coming to buy jewelry right

somebody’s coming to buy jewelry right

somebody’s coming to buy jewelry right there buying a diamond earring or ring

there buying a diamond earring or ring

there buying a diamond earring or ring or whatever it is right yes you’re

or whatever it is right yes you’re

or whatever it is right yes you’re helping them with the actual product but

helping them with the actual product but

helping them with the actual product but what other frustrations do they have

what other frustrations do they have

what other frustrations do they have that you can help them with well I

that you can help them with well I

that you can help them with well I didn’t know I renault know says but even

didn’t know I renault know says but even

didn’t know I renault know says but even so think about even education okay i

so think about even education okay i

so think about even education okay i remember when i had to go buy a diamond

remember when i had to go buy a diamond

remember when i had to go buy a diamond ring it’s confusing the first time you

ring it’s confusing the first time you

ring it’s confusing the first time you go you have no idea what you’re doing

go you have no idea what you’re doing

go you have no idea what you’re doing yes cuz they don’t know what yeah it’s a

yes cuz they don’t know what yeah it’s a

yes cuz they don’t know what yeah it’s a lot no idea especially gosh we don’t

lot no idea especially gosh we don’t

lot no idea especially gosh we don’t know what to buy you can help well I can

know what to buy you can help well I can

know what to buy you can help well I can suggest them to many other products

suggest them to many other products

suggest them to many other products that’s that’s basically what I can do

that’s that’s basically what I can do

that’s that’s basically what I can do but it did not interested in the item

but it did not interested in the item

but it did not interested in the item then I don’t know what the four-stage a

then I don’t know what the four-stage a

then I don’t know what the four-stage a lot of people are looking for simple

lot of people are looking for simple

lot of people are looking for simple solutions okay you know guys might come

solutions okay you know guys might come

solutions okay you know guys might come in looking for a diamond ring for an

in looking for a diamond ring for an

in looking for a diamond ring for an engagement ring and they’re quickly

engagement ring and they’re quickly

engagement ring and they’re quickly overwhelmed with all the different

overwhelmed with all the different

overwhelmed with all the different options color cut clarity all that stuff

options color cut clarity all that stuff

options color cut clarity all that stuff right they have no idea what they’re

right they have no idea what they’re

right they have no idea what they’re getting into so they want somebody to be

getting into so they want somebody to be

getting into so they want somebody to be friendly and educate them and teach them

friendly and educate them and teach them

friendly and educate them and teach them I’ve got to do and give them a critical

I’ve got to do and give them a critical

I’ve got to do and give them a critical option simple Apfel

option simple Apfel

option simple Apfel that’s four guys my what a possible

that’s four guys my what a possible

that’s four guys my what a possible senior from females they just come on in

senior from females they just come on in

senior from females they just come on in and they just choose me well think about

and they just choose me well think about

and they just choose me well think about your own experience your female right

your own experience your female right

your own experience your female right what’s your buying experience what do

what’s your buying experience what do

what’s your buying experience what do you look for when you go to a store not

you look for when you go to a store not

you look for when you go to a store not not when you bind Julie but anything

not when you bind Julie but anything

not when you bind Julie but anything you’re buying clothes for buying shoes

you’re buying clothes for buying shoes

you’re buying clothes for buying shoes well I look like opening who you respect

well I look like opening who you respect

well I look like opening who you respect like who what’s a fashion company that

like who what’s a fashion company that

like who what’s a fashion company that you respect their a retailer that you go

you respect their a retailer that you go

you respect their a retailer that you go to and you love that company barrel is

to and you love that company barrel is

to and you love that company barrel is good old fat dairy okay coat back so

good old fat dairy okay coat back so

good old fat dairy okay coat back so what do they do that’s great that other

what do they do that’s great that other

what do they do that’s great that other coach stores don’t do well they do sales

coach stores don’t do well they do sales

coach stores don’t do well they do sales sales or what else well i like i like i

sales or what else well i like i like i

sales or what else well i like i like i like the material I like these fabrics I

like the material I like these fabrics I

like the material I like these fabrics I like to design and everything about the

like to design and everything about the

like to design and everything about the experience about the salespeople only a

experience about the salespeople only a

experience about the salespeople only a customer service hey cousin the servers

customer service hey cousin the servers

customer service hey cousin the servers are really great well this is this is a

are really great well this is this is a

are really great well this is this is a great model for you because you’re

great model for you because you’re

great model for you because you’re taking a company a coach store and

taking a company a coach store and

taking a company a coach store and there’s tons of code stores all cities

there’s tons of code stores all cities

there’s tons of code stores all cities right there’s tons there’s just as many

right there’s tons there’s just as many

right there’s tons there’s just as many coats or this jewelry stores kako

coats or this jewelry stores kako

coats or this jewelry stores kako they’ve managed to stand out for you in

they’ve managed to stand out for you in

they’ve managed to stand out for you in some way right they have unique products

some way right they have unique products

some way right they have unique products they have great customer service they

they have great customer service they

they have great customer service they make you want to go back to model that

make you want to go back to model that

make you want to go back to model that experience and say I’m going to be the

experience and say I’m going to be the

experience and say I’m going to be the coat factory of the jewelry world okay

coat factory of the jewelry world okay

coat factory of the jewelry world okay so I have unique products and provide

so I have unique products and provide

so I have unique products and provide great service I mean people want to come

great service I mean people want to come

great service I mean people want to come back thank you what can you do what’s

back thank you what can you do what’s

back thank you what can you do what’s like one thing you could do from the

like one thing you could do from the

like one thing you could do from the coat factory that you can apply to your

coat factory that you can apply to your

coat factory that you can apply to your business right now one thing I can do is

business right now one thing I can do is

business right now one thing I can do is first I got a model more products like I

first I got a model more products like I

first I got a model more products like I have to ask away Martha model my Pradas

have to ask away Martha model my Pradas

have to ask away Martha model my Pradas so the people can come back in or you

so the people can come back in or you

so the people can come back in or you know he buying for me the unique product

know he buying for me the unique product

know he buying for me the unique product just like the coat factory has unique

just like the coat factory has unique

just like the coat factory has unique products during other pics come up with

products during other pics come up with

products during other pics come up with some unique products unique I’ll make

some unique products unique I’ll make

some unique products unique I’ll make you stand out like a show good how about

you stand out like a show good how about

you stand out like a show good how about the service what’s one thing from the

the service what’s one thing from the

the service what’s one thing from the service you love their salespeople

service you love their salespeople

service you love their salespeople they’re very customer centric what’s

they’re very customer centric what’s

they’re very customer centric what’s ones you need to take from their

ones you need to take from their

ones you need to take from their salespeople that you can apply to your

salespeople that you can apply to your

salespeople that you can apply to your business now well I can apply a good

business now well I can apply a good

business now well I can apply a good customer service I can talk to people

customer service I can talk to people

customer service I can talk to people you know

you know

you know I currently get to know the people a

I currently get to know the people a

I currently get to know the people a little bit but not know all of them but

little bit but not know all of them but

little bit but not know all of them but like you to know them so you know

like you to know them so you know

like you to know them so you know however like a great conversation with

however like a great conversation with

however like a great conversation with them so they I don’t want to come back

them so they I don’t want to come back

them so they I don’t want to come back and you know is it more it’s great that

and you know is it more it’s great that

and you know is it more it’s great that you know what the next time you go to

you know what the next time you go to

you know what the next time you go to the coat factory really examine how

the coat factory really examine how

the coat factory really examine how their sales people treat you think about

their sales people treat you think about

their sales people treat you think about like what’s the first thing they say how

like what’s the first thing they say how

like what’s the first thing they say how do they approach you there’s nobody

do they approach you there’s nobody

do they approach you there’s nobody likes me and approached by salespeople

likes me and approached by salespeople

likes me and approached by salespeople well everybody likes to be helped so how

well everybody likes to be helped so how

well everybody likes to be helped so how do they approach you and what questions

do they approach you and what questions

do they approach you and what questions do they are well when we come to me yeah

do they are well when we come to me yeah

do they are well when we come to me yeah oh when they approach me they ask me how

oh when they approach me they ask me how

oh when they approach me they ask me how can I help you do you find anything that

can I help you do you find anything that

can I help you do you find anything that you’re interested in oh are you looking

you’re interested in oh are you looking

you’re interested in oh are you looking for something like very specific so this

for something like very specific so this

for something like very specific so this is all great so and keep modeling people

is all great so and keep modeling people

is all great so and keep modeling people on the planet this is your assignment

on the planet this is your assignment

on the planet this is your assignment for the next week is to go to the coat

for the next week is to go to the coat

for the next week is to go to the coat factory model success applies here does

factory model success applies here does

factory model success applies here does that make sense yeah well alright good

that make sense yeah well alright good

that make sense yeah well alright good luck let me know how it goes i’m on

luck let me know how it goes i’m on

luck let me know how it goes i’m on every two weeks hi thank you go back to

every two weeks hi thank you go back to

every two weeks hi thank you go back to the Carmichael show I believe in

the Carmichael show I believe in

the Carmichael show I believe in entrepreneurs and I’m about to put some

entrepreneurs and I’m about to put some

entrepreneurs and I’m about to put some more money in your pocket don’t compete

more money in your pocket don’t compete

more money in your pocket don’t compete on price as entrepreneurs we tend

on price as entrepreneurs we tend

on price as entrepreneurs we tend undervalue the service that we’re

undervalue the service that we’re

undervalue the service that we’re providing and we undercut our prices and

providing and we undercut our prices and

providing and we undercut our prices and we think it’s the only way to get new

we think it’s the only way to get new

we think it’s the only way to get new businesses to deep discount our prices

businesses to deep discount our prices

businesses to deep discount our prices to get Justin to come in the door the

to get Justin to come in the door the

to get Justin to come in the door the problem here is you’re not going to get

problem here is you’re not going to get

problem here is you’re not going to get ideal customers right you don’t want

ideal customers right you don’t want

ideal customers right you don’t want customers buying from you only because

customers buying from you only because

customers buying from you only because of price they’re not going to tell their

of price they’re not going to tell their

of price they’re not going to tell their friends are not going to be long term

friends are not going to be long term

friends are not going to be long term loyal customers because as soon as you

loyal customers because as soon as you

loyal customers because as soon as you start increasing your prices they’re

start increasing your prices they’re

start increasing your prices they’re gone and there’s always going to be

gone and there’s always going to be

gone and there’s always going to be somebody who’s hungrier who’s going to

somebody who’s hungrier who’s going to

somebody who’s hungrier who’s going to undercut your price it’s just a race to

undercut your price it’s just a race to

undercut your price it’s just a race to the bottom the challenge for

the bottom the challenge for

the bottom the challenge for entrepreneurs is you have to think about

entrepreneurs is you have to think about

entrepreneurs is you have to think about what more added value you can provide to

what more added value you can provide to

what more added value you can provide to your customers make them pay not even

your customers make them pay not even

your customers make them pay not even average price but a premium price you

average price but a premium price you

average price but a premium price you should be master class you should be one

should be master class you should be one

should be master class you should be one of the best in the world of what you do

of the best in the world of what you do

of the best in the world of what you do and if you are you deserve to get paid

and if you are you deserve to get paid

and if you are you deserve to get paid so I had a question come in from Colin

so I had a question come in from Colin

so I had a question come in from Colin who has a rental property and he was

who has a rental property and he was

who has a rental property and he was trying to figure out how do I make more

trying to figure out how do I make more

trying to figure out how do I make more money than I rental property every time

money than I rental property every time

money than I rental property every time I drop my price I get business and every

I drop my price I get business and every

I drop my price I get business and every time I increase it it sits empty so

time I increase it it sits empty so

time I increase it it sits empty so here’s the thing always competing on his

here’s the thing always competing on his

here’s the thing always competing on his location and his price it’s not a

location and his price it’s not a

location and his price it’s not a winning strategy you ought to think

winning strategy you ought to think

winning strategy you ought to think about other ways to add value to the

about other ways to add value to the

about other ways to add value to the customer experience think about other

customer experience think about other

customer experience think about other frustrations they have that they’re

frustrations they have that they’re

frustrations they have that they’re coming to you for that you could

coming to you for that you could

coming to you for that you could potentially help solve for them why do

potentially help solve for them why do

potentially help solve for them why do people pay thousand dollars a night to

people pay thousand dollars a night to

people pay thousand dollars a night to stay out of Four Seasons room when they

stay out of Four Seasons room when they

stay out of Four Seasons room when they can go to a fifty dollar night hotel

can go to a fifty dollar night hotel

can go to a fifty dollar night hotel room you’re still getting a bed and a

room you’re still getting a bed and a

room you’re still getting a bed and a place to sleep but you’re getting a lot

place to sleep but you’re getting a lot

place to sleep but you’re getting a lot more added value by going to the fourth

more added value by going to the fourth

more added value by going to the fourth season they they’re selling the

season they they’re selling the

season they they’re selling the convenience they’re selling the fact

convenience they’re selling the fact

convenience they’re selling the fact that you’re going to get a hassle free

that you’re going to get a hassle free

that you’re going to get a hassle free trip for a business person who’s on a

trip for a business person who’s on a

trip for a business person who’s on a big deal they’re about to close a

big deal they’re about to close a

big deal they’re about to close a multi-million dollar deal where they

multi-million dollar deal where they

multi-million dollar deal where they going to stay they want to know that

going to stay they want to know that

going to stay they want to know that they’re going to be at the top of their

they’re going to be at the top of their

they’re going to be at the top of their game they want a good night’s sleep and

game they want a good night’s sleep and

game they want a good night’s sleep and they’re going to go and pay an extra

they’re going to go and pay an extra

they’re going to go and pay an extra couple hundred bucks to stay at the four

couple hundred bucks to stay at the four

couple hundred bucks to stay at the four seasons because they get that added

seasons because they get that added

seasons because they get that added value so for Colin who has a rental

value so for Colin who has a rental

value so for Colin who has a rental property again think about what people

property again think about what people

property again think about what people are coming for one of the problems do

are coming for one of the problems do

are coming for one of the problems do they have can you tell them about the

they have can you tell them about the

they have can you tell them about the city that you’re in and you give them a

city that you’re in and you give them a

city that you’re in and you give them a tour can you tell them about upcoming

tour can you tell them about upcoming

tour can you tell them about upcoming events that are happening what else can

events that are happening what else can

events that are happening what else can you do think about their challenges and

you do think about their challenges and

you do think about their challenges and it doesn’t have to cost a lot of money

it doesn’t have to cost a lot of money

it doesn’t have to cost a lot of money it just has to have high perceived value

it just has to have high perceived value

it just has to have high perceived value high perceived value but it doesn’t have

high perceived value but it doesn’t have

high perceived value but it doesn’t have to cost you a lot or anything a great

to cost you a lot or anything a great

to cost you a lot or anything a great example is uh I work with some some

example is uh I work with some some

example is uh I work with some some brand clients are trying to reach

brand clients are trying to reach

brand clients are trying to reach entrepreneurs and what I do with them is

entrepreneurs and what I do with them is

entrepreneurs and what I do with them is every quarter I sit down and I explained

every quarter I sit down and I explained

every quarter I sit down and I explained here’s what’s happening in the

here’s what’s happening in the

here’s what’s happening in the entrepreneur space from all of my

entrepreneur space from all of my

entrepreneur space from all of my research I collect tons of data

research I collect tons of data

research I collect tons of data questions are coming from you guys on

questions are coming from you guys on

questions are coming from you guys on YouTube Twitter everywhere and I get a

YouTube Twitter everywhere and I get a

YouTube Twitter everywhere and I get a sense of where the entrepreneur market

sense of where the entrepreneur market

sense of where the entrepreneur market is going I collect this information

is going I collect this information

is going I collect this information anyway for my stuff for my own purposes

anyway for my stuff for my own purposes

anyway for my stuff for my own purposes it helps guide the content for this

it helps guide the content for this

it helps guide the content for this program it helps guide my youtube videos

program it helps guide my youtube videos

program it helps guide my youtube videos I’m already doing this but these big

I’m already doing this but these big

I’m already doing this but these big brands that are my client they have no

brands that are my client they have no

brands that are my client they have no way of act in this data like give it to

way of act in this data like give it to

way of act in this data like give it to them for free I give this to them for

them for free I give this to them for

them for free I give this to them for free to build the relationship and then

free to build the relationship and then

free to build the relationship and then when they hire me for program they know

when they hire me for program they know

when they hire me for program they know that I know what I’m talking about and I

that I know what I’m talking about and I

that I know what I’m talking about and I can charge five times as much as the

can charge five times as much as the

can charge five times as much as the next guy so I’m a ton of value but again

next guy so I’m a ton of value but again

next guy so I’m a ton of value but again it’s not cost mating because i’ve

it’s not cost mating because i’ve

it’s not cost mating because i’ve already doing it so think about the

already doing it so think about the

already doing it so think about the frustration that your customers

frustration that your customers

frustration that your customers currently have beyond what you’re

currently have beyond what you’re

currently have beyond what you’re helping them solve and go the extra mile

helping them solve and go the extra mile

helping them solve and go the extra mile to give them more value and start

to give them more value and start

to give them more value and start increasing your prices and get paid for

increasing your prices and get paid for

increasing your prices and get paid for your worth I have Sarah on the line

your worth I have Sarah on the line

your worth I have Sarah on the line they’re aware your thumb and how can I

they’re aware your thumb and how can I

they’re aware your thumb and how can I help hi I’m from New York City of them

help hi I’m from New York City of them

help hi I’m from New York City of them actually calling about my little

actually calling about my little

actually calling about my little brother’s business he’s starting in the

brother’s business he’s starting in the

brother’s business he’s starting in the Northern Virginia DC area I was

Northern Virginia DC area I was

Northern Virginia DC area I was listening to your show and I love what

listening to your show and I love what

listening to your show and I love what you’re saying about thinking big but

you’re saying about thinking big but

you’re saying about thinking big but starting small and my brother is under

starting small and my brother is under

starting small and my brother is under starting a bakery that does like what

starting a bakery that does like what

starting a bakery that does like what he’s my delivery and cookies with the

he’s my delivery and cookies with the

he’s my delivery and cookies with the idea that it would reach out to you know

idea that it would reach out to you know

idea that it would reach out to you know the party skiing or the canvases there’s

the party skiing or the canvases there’s

the party skiing or the canvases there’s a lot of colleges in the DC area that

a lot of colleges in the DC area that

a lot of colleges in the DC area that they think they could tap into but they

they think they could tap into but they

they think they could tap into but they have absolutely zero capital and they’re

have absolutely zero capital and they’re

have absolutely zero capital and they’re trying to figure out how to get their

trying to figure out how to get their

trying to figure out how to get their products out there fast even if it means

products out there fast even if it means

products out there fast even if it means investing a little bit up front but they

investing a little bit up front but they

investing a little bit up front but they don’t they’re not in the position to

don’t they’re not in the position to

don’t they’re not in the position to take out a loan or anything crazy they’d

take out a loan or anything crazy they’d

take out a loan or anything crazy they’d like you to food trucks but that even

like you to food trucks but that even

like you to food trucks but that even seems really expensive at first tho i

seems really expensive at first tho i

seems really expensive at first tho i guess my question is how do they take

guess my question is how do they take

guess my question is how do they take that first small step that’s a great

that first small step that’s a great

that first small step that’s a great question and congrats and wanting to

question and congrats and wanting to

question and congrats and wanting to start small and build it up does he

start small and build it up does he

start small and build it up does he really have connections into that

really have connections into that

really have connections into that university market um they I think of the

university market um they I think of the

university market um they I think of the three of them were starting this I one

three of them were starting this I one

three of them were starting this I one of them definitely works like with the

of them definitely works like with the

of them definitely works like with the campus and universities and they do

campus and universities and they do

campus and universities and they do already have a friend who has a bakery

already have a friend who has a bakery

already have a friend who has a bakery and but she’s been doing with these

and but she’s been doing with these

and but she’s been doing with these things from home and they’re looking to

things from home and they’re looking to

things from home and they’re looking to collaborate with her and sort of expand

collaborate with her and sort of expand

collaborate with her and sort of expand from there and really reach campus so

from there and really reach campus so

from there and really reach campus so what what you really needs to do is

what what you really needs to do is

what what you really needs to do is prove that this model can work

prove that this model can work

prove that this model can work a bakery if you’re like the actual cost

a bakery if you’re like the actual cost

a bakery if you’re like the actual cost my bakery aren’t that much to get a

my bakery aren’t that much to get a

my bakery aren’t that much to get a physical location is expensive but the

physical location is expensive but the

physical location is expensive but the material cost is really cheap right to

material cost is really cheap right to

material cost is really cheap right to make bread and cookies you’re not going

make bread and cookies you’re not going

make bread and cookies you’re not going out and spending a ton of money yeah do

out and spending a ton of money yeah do

out and spending a ton of money yeah do this from home or they can work with

this from home or they can work with

this from home or they can work with that Baker and use their place off hours

that Baker and use their place off hours

that Baker and use their place off hours to test it the biggest thing to see is

to test it the biggest thing to see is

to test it the biggest thing to see is do people want this late night delivery

do people want this late night delivery

do people want this late night delivery service right nobody’s done this before

service right nobody’s done this before

service right nobody’s done this before it could be a great idea could totally

it could be a great idea could totally

it could be a great idea could totally tanked great so the biggest thing is not

tanked great so the biggest thing is not

tanked great so the biggest thing is not on how to produce this thing is more in

on how to produce this thing is more in

on how to produce this thing is more in the marketing side okay how do I see if

the marketing side okay how do I see if

the marketing side okay how do I see if people want to spend on how do I expose

people want to spend on how do I expose

people want to spend on how do I expose this to the University crowd so

this to the University crowd so

this to the University crowd so listening to what you’re saying before

listening to what you’re saying before

listening to what you’re saying before like they shouldn’t be going to

like they shouldn’t be going to

like they shouldn’t be going to universities there are places and just

universities there are places and just

universities there are places and just giving away free products or starting

giving away free products or starting

giving away free products or starting fall or should they just be doing

fall or should they just be doing

fall or should they just be doing anything they can to get the name out

anything they can to get the name out

anything they can to get the name out there and the concept you can do

there and the concept you can do

there and the concept you can do sampling and again when the costs are

sampling and again when the costs are

sampling and again when the costs are not high like for them to make cookies

not high like for them to make cookies

not high like for them to make cookies is not going to cost them a lot of money

is not going to cost them a lot of money

is not going to cost them a lot of money is going to be mostly on right so you

is going to be mostly on right so you

is going to be mostly on right so you have to invest a lot of hospital and

have to invest a lot of hospital and

have to invest a lot of hospital and getting that out but it’s really tapping

getting that out but it’s really tapping

getting that out but it’s really tapping into the university market and seeing

into the university market and seeing

into the university market and seeing how you can get involved in campus life

how you can get involved in campus life

how you can get involved in campus life so that people know about you want to

so that people know about you want to

so that people know about you want to try you out ok I see much more the

try you out ok I see much more the

try you out ok I see much more the marketing exercise and actually

marketing exercise and actually

marketing exercise and actually producing the stuff because it doesn’t

producing the stuff because it doesn’t

producing the stuff because it doesn’t need to go out and get a store to create

need to go out and get a store to create

need to go out and get a store to create his first product right and if it works

his first product right and if it works

his first product right and if it works and you start making some money then you

and you start making some money then you

and you start making some money then you can invest that back into business and

can invest that back into business and

can invest that back into business and get your own location if you want to

get your own location if you want to

get your own location if you want to expand to multiple universities and take

expand to multiple universities and take

expand to multiple universities and take this thing nationwide and take over the

this thing nationwide and take over the

this thing nationwide and take over the world got it so should they target maybe

world got it so should they target maybe

world got it so should they target maybe like one college specifically first and

like one college specifically first and

like one college specifically first and see how that goes and then jump from

see how that goes and then jump from

see how that goes and then jump from there should they be hitting as many

there should they be hitting as many

there should they be hitting as many different possible marcus’s they can I

different possible marcus’s they can I

different possible marcus’s they can I try to look for whatever the lowest

try to look for whatever the lowest

try to look for whatever the lowest hanging fruit is to start whatever

hanging fruit is to start whatever

hanging fruit is to start whatever colleges they went to or we know that

colleges they went to or we know that

colleges they went to or we know that partner whatever you know college

partner whatever you know college

partner whatever you know college they’re part of right now working that

they’re part of right now working that

they’re part of right now working that then that’s your easiest connection in

then that’s your easiest connection in

then that’s your easiest connection in okay get the ball rolling and and test

okay get the ball rolling and and test

okay get the ball rolling and and test the concept right if people love this

the concept right if people love this

the concept right if people love this idea of late night delivery of cookies

idea of late night delivery of cookies

idea of late night delivery of cookies then then you roll with it probably

then then you roll with it probably

then then you roll with it probably what’s going to happen is and this is

what’s going to happen is and this is

what’s going to happen is and this is typical with with motors in the first

typical with with motors in the first

typical with with motors in the first getting started there’s something to the

getting started there’s something to the

getting started there’s something to the idea but it’s not perfect yet you have

idea but it’s not perfect yet you have

idea but it’s not perfect yet you have to tweak it so the delivery model might

to tweak it so the delivery model might

to tweak it so the delivery model might be great but they may need to change

be great but they may need to change

be great but they may need to change their hours or people may not like

their hours or people may not like

their hours or people may not like cookies about maybe they want donut

cookies about maybe they want donut

cookies about maybe they want donut maybe they won’t take or something else

maybe they won’t take or something else

maybe they won’t take or something else so yeah play with the model until you

so yeah play with the model until you

so yeah play with the model until you get a working really well and the

get a working really well and the

get a working really well and the tighter you are to your customer so the

tighter you are to your customer so the

tighter you are to your customer so the closer they are to those universities

closer they are to those universities

closer they are to those universities and can get some real feedback because

and can get some real feedback because

and can get some real feedback because the first experience probably won’t be

the first experience probably won’t be

the first experience probably won’t be perfect with the customer real having

perfect with the customer real having

perfect with the customer real having somebody to to kind of sit there with

somebody to to kind of sit there with

somebody to to kind of sit there with you and be patient and say hey I’d

you and be patient and say hey I’d

you and be patient and say hey I’d really love it if you could do XYZ and

really love it if you could do XYZ and

really love it if you could do XYZ and dr. you the business that really help

dr. you the business that really help

dr. you the business that really help them take off got it that’s great I love

them take off got it that’s great I love

them take off got it that’s great I love that what’s your role in all of this Joe

that what’s your role in all of this Joe

that what’s your role in all of this Joe is my little brother and I she was

is my little brother and I she was

is my little brother and I she was listening to the show and he’s been

listening to the show and he’s been

listening to the show and he’s been racking his brain and really stretched

racking his brain and really stretched

racking his brain and really stretched out because he just proposed to his

out because he just proposed to his

out because he just proposed to his girlfriend who he’s been really busy but

girlfriend who he’s been really busy but

girlfriend who he’s been really busy but this is something that he really thinks

this is something that he really thinks

this is something that he really thinks to take off and he still got a side job

to take off and he still got a side job

to take off and he still got a side job and so as I keep hearing all these

and so as I keep hearing all these

and so as I keep hearing all these things I was listening to the show as I

things I was listening to the show as I

things I was listening to the show as I clean it’s like you’re really good

clean it’s like you’re really good

clean it’s like you’re really good opportunity to get some get searched for

opportunity to get some get searched for

opportunity to get some get searched for him just a lot of big sister I what I do

him just a lot of big sister I what I do

him just a lot of big sister I what I do we should it’s great it’s great for him

we should it’s great it’s great for him

we should it’s great it’s great for him to start part time it’s gripping in the

to start part time it’s gripping in the

to start part time it’s gripping in the test is out see if it works eep and

test is out see if it works eep and

test is out see if it works eep and really just listen to the customers

really just listen to the customers

really just listen to the customers listen to what they walk because they

listen to what they walk because they

listen to what they walk because they will tell him what needs to be changed

will tell him what needs to be changed

will tell him what needs to be changed for this business to actually work great

for this business to actually work great

for this business to actually work great and if you want to call in let me know

and if you want to call in let me know

and if you want to call in let me know I’m on every two weeks I’d love to hear

I’m on every two weeks I’d love to hear

I’m on every two weeks I’d love to hear from through the progress that sounds

from through the progress that sounds

from through the progress that sounds great I’ll definitely tell them about it

great I’ll definitely tell them about it

great I’ll definitely tell them about it alright thanks Sarah thank you so much

alright thanks Sarah thank you so much

alright thanks Sarah thank you so much no problem so for everybody listening

no problem so for everybody listening

no problem so for everybody listening this is a great model to follow start

this is a great model to follow start

this is a great model to follow start small and test your concept if he goes

small and test your concept if he goes

small and test your concept if he goes out and he buys a bakery and invest all

out and he buys a bakery and invest all

out and he buys a bakery and invest all of his money into this and takes on a

of his money into this and takes on a

of his money into this and takes on a loan is probably going to fail who knows

loan is probably going to fail who knows

loan is probably going to fail who knows if people even want late night delivery

if people even want late night delivery

if people even want late night delivery right instead of testing your

right instead of testing your

right instead of testing your assumptions on a big scale tested on the

assumptions on a big scale tested on the

assumptions on a big scale tested on the sauce count people works get some

sauce count people works get some

sauce count people works get some feedback foot that he brought back into

feedback foot that he brought back into

feedback foot that he brought back into your business and you’re on the path or

your business and you’re on the path or

your business and you’re on the path or successful enterprise welcome back to

successful enterprise welcome back to

successful enterprise welcome back to the Evan Carmichael show I believe in

the Evan Carmichael show I believe in

the Evan Carmichael show I believe in entrepreneurs and I want to see you have

entrepreneurs and I want to see you have

entrepreneurs and I want to see you have massive success with your company and

massive success with your company and

massive success with your company and part of that is going to come by

part of that is going to come by

part of that is going to come by breaking through the frustration I’m

breaking through the frustration I’m

breaking through the frustration I’m frustrated with my business constantly I

frustrated with my business constantly I

frustrated with my business constantly I wanted to be going faster I want to hit

wanted to be going faster I want to hit

wanted to be going faster I want to hit our goals more quickly I want things to

our goals more quickly I want things to

our goals more quickly I want things to happen now I want things that happen

happen now I want things that happen

happen now I want things that happen yesterday and that’s part of life as an

yesterday and that’s part of life as an

yesterday and that’s part of life as an entrepreneur and it’s okay to be there

entrepreneur and it’s okay to be there

entrepreneur and it’s okay to be there it’s one of the things that we don’t

it’s one of the things that we don’t

it’s one of the things that we don’t talk about you know you read magazines

talk about you know you read magazines

talk about you know you read magazines and books and listen to radio programs

and books and listen to radio programs

and books and listen to radio programs and everybody’s saying do these three

and everybody’s saying do these three

and everybody’s saying do these three things you’ll be successful right you

things you’ll be successful right you

things you’ll be successful right you have to bust through tons of frustration

have to bust through tons of frustration

have to bust through tons of frustration and just stick with it you’ll to get you

and just stick with it you’ll to get you

and just stick with it you’ll to get you through so if you’re frustrated right

through so if you’re frustrated right

through so if you’re frustrated right now with your business you’re not alone

now with your business you’re not alone

now with your business you’re not alone here’s a few things you can do to help

here’s a few things you can do to help

here’s a few things you can do to help you bust through the first thing that

you bust through the first thing that

you bust through the first thing that really helped me was model success I

really helped me was model success I

really helped me was model success I researched entrepreneurs who had made it

researched entrepreneurs who had made it

researched entrepreneurs who had made it to its done what I want to do but really

to its done what I want to do but really

to its done what I want to do but really hit it hard and looked at how they got

hit it hard and looked at how they got

hit it hard and looked at how they got started and found the day off struggled

started and found the day off struggled

started and found the day off struggled to all of these guys they struggled

to all of these guys they struggled

to all of these guys they struggled nobody had it easy from the start they

nobody had it easy from the start they

nobody had it easy from the start they struggled and struggled and were

struggled and struggled and were

struggled and struggled and were frustrated and they push through and

frustrated and they push through and

frustrated and they push through and researching those stories of your

researching those stories of your

researching those stories of your favorite famous entrepreneur or somebody

favorite famous entrepreneur or somebody

favorite famous entrepreneur or somebody in you that you look up to will not only

in you that you look up to will not only

in you that you look up to will not only give you strategies and what to do you

give you strategies and what to do you

give you strategies and what to do you know they did this so I can do it too

know they did this so I can do it too

know they did this so I can do it too but they’ll give you the motivation to

but they’ll give you the motivation to

but they’ll give you the motivation to keep going and busts through the

keep going and busts through the

keep going and busts through the frustration

frustration

frustration the second thing is remember why you’re

the second thing is remember why you’re

the second thing is remember why you’re doing this why did you start this

doing this why did you start this

doing this why did you start this business what are you trying to

business what are you trying to

business what are you trying to accomplish one thing that really helped

accomplish one thing that really helped

accomplish one thing that really helped me early on was I would go and I would

me early on was I would go and I would

me early on was I would go and I would do presentations entrepreneurs I would

do presentations entrepreneurs I would

do presentations entrepreneurs I would go and I would meet entrepreneurs and

go and I would meet entrepreneurs and

go and I would meet entrepreneurs and give a great presentation and feel

give a great presentation and feel

give a great presentation and feel inspired and change their lives and then

inspired and change their lives and then

inspired and change their lives and then I wake up the next day like I had to

I wake up the next day like I had to

I wake up the next day like I had to start all over again like my motivation

start all over again like my motivation

start all over again like my motivation has disappeared where did it go some

has disappeared where did it go some

has disappeared where did it go some days you just wake up and you don’t want

days you just wake up and you don’t want

days you just wake up and you don’t want to do anything as to what i would do is

to do anything as to what i would do is

to do anything as to what i would do is read the testimonials of people would

read the testimonials of people would

read the testimonials of people would left for me i would look at the emails

left for me i would look at the emails

left for me i would look at the emails people right into me and it would keep

people right into me and it would keep

people right into me and it would keep me motivated to keep going because i saw

me motivated to keep going because i saw

me motivated to keep going because i saw the impact and i have I kept wanting to

the impact and i have I kept wanting to

the impact and i have I kept wanting to do it and the third thing you can do is

do it and the third thing you can do is

do it and the third thing you can do is use frustration at school when you get

use frustration at school when you get

use frustration at school when you get so frustrated with your company two

so frustrated with your company two

so frustrated with your company two things are going to happen either one

things are going to happen either one

things are going to happen either one you’re going to quit you’re going to

you’re going to quit you’re going to

you’re going to quit you’re going to give up shut down go off and get a job

give up shut down go off and get a job

give up shut down go off and get a job or you’re going to use that as fuel to

or you’re going to use that as fuel to

or you’re going to use that as fuel to keep going to remember that when you’re

keep going to remember that when you’re

keep going to remember that when you’re frustrated you’re not alone and this is

frustrated you’re not alone and this is

frustrated you’re not alone and this is something that that really hurt me early

something that that really hurt me early

something that that really hurt me early on because I felt like I was the only

on because I felt like I was the only

on because I felt like I was the only one going through all these problems

one going through all these problems

one going through all these problems like it was super easy for everybody

like it was super easy for everybody

like it was super easy for everybody else and I was the idiot who couldn’t

else and I was the idiot who couldn’t

else and I was the idiot who couldn’t get it you know why was a reading

get it you know why was a reading

get it you know why was a reading stories about these guys who came from

stories about these guys who came from

stories about these guys who came from nothing I made it big and here I was

nothing I made it big and here I was

nothing I made it big and here I was struggling to get clients you know I had

struggling to get clients you know I had

struggling to get clients you know I had a great product I had a great team why

a great product I had a great team why

a great product I had a great team why was this so hard and I almost quit

was this so hard and I almost quit

was this so hard and I almost quit multiple times I remember one time I was

multiple times I remember one time I was

multiple times I remember one time I was on the call with with my business

on the call with with my business

on the call with with my business partner this is the worst period of my

partner this is the worst period of my

partner this is the worst period of my life and my business career it was a

life and my business career it was a

life and my business career it was a family event and we had been through so

family event and we had been through so

family event and we had been through so much pain and struggle trying to get our

much pain and struggle trying to get our

much pain and struggle trying to get our company launched and I took a call from

company launched and I took a call from

company launched and I took a call from my partner and I went upstairs and at

my partner and I went upstairs and at

my partner and I went upstairs and at the end of it was I told him I quit i

the end of it was I told him I quit i

the end of it was I told him I quit i got i had had it i had enough this was

got i had had it i had enough this was

got i had had it i had enough this was too much I feel like I need to be doing

too much I feel like I need to be doing

too much I feel like I need to be doing something where I can get some results

something where I can get some results

something where I can get some results the same way I was taking so long and

the same way I was taking so long and

the same way I was taking so long and maybe we’re just not meant to do this

maybe we’re just not meant to do this

maybe we’re just not meant to do this that’s it I’m done I quit no more i’m

that’s it I’m done I quit no more i’m

that’s it I’m done I quit no more i’m doing something else and then I hung up

doing something else and then I hung up

doing something else and then I hung up the phone and I just cried I bawled my

the phone and I just cried I bawled my

the phone and I just cried I bawled my eyes out you know tears streaming down

eyes out you know tears streaming down

eyes out you know tears streaming down my face through my nose everything I was

my face through my nose everything I was

my face through my nose everything I was just a total mess and my mom came up she

just a total mess and my mom came up she

just a total mess and my mom came up she heard me crying and she put her hand on

heard me crying and she put her hand on

heard me crying and she put her hand on my shoulder and I couldn’t even say

my shoulder and I couldn’t even say

my shoulder and I couldn’t even say anything to her I was just so frustrated

anything to her I was just so frustrated

anything to her I was just so frustrated and so upset and so disappointed in

and so upset and so disappointed in

and so upset and so disappointed in myself and so ashamed and embarrassed

myself and so ashamed and embarrassed

myself and so ashamed and embarrassed you know I had so much confidence going

you know I had so much confidence going

you know I had so much confidence going into this thing and to be at this point

into this thing and to be at this point

into this thing and to be at this point that you’re mean say that I quit was so

that you’re mean say that I quit was so

that you’re mean say that I quit was so so embarrassing now I couldn’t say

so embarrassing now I couldn’t say

so embarrassing now I couldn’t say anything I just SAT there and cried and

anything I just SAT there and cried and

anything I just SAT there and cried and I ended up going to sleep that night and

I ended up going to sleep that night and

I ended up going to sleep that night and just feeling terrible for myself and I

just feeling terrible for myself and I

just feeling terrible for myself and I woke up the next day I went back to work

woke up the next day I went back to work

woke up the next day I went back to work because that’s what I needed to do I had

because that’s what I needed to do I had

because that’s what I needed to do I had a business to build and I almost quit

a business to build and I almost quit

a business to build and I almost quit that was the first time that I actually

that was the first time that I actually

that was the first time that I actually you know threatened to quit and I meant

you know threatened to quit and I meant

you know threatened to quit and I meant it at the time I wanted to quit I wanted

it at the time I wanted to quit I wanted

it at the time I wanted to quit I wanted to go do something else I was so

to go do something else I was so

to go do something else I was so frustrated with this business mega not

frustrated with this business mega not

frustrated with this business mega not going well but I kept going to the

going well but I kept going to the

going well but I kept going to the frustration the next day I woke up and

frustration the next day I woke up and

frustration the next day I woke up and remembered those three things one

remembered those three things one

remembered those three things one Pauline success I looked at

Pauline success I looked at

Pauline success I looked at entrepreneurs like George Lucas and

entrepreneurs like George Lucas and

entrepreneurs like George Lucas and Oprah Winfrey and saw all the struggles

Oprah Winfrey and saw all the struggles

Oprah Winfrey and saw all the struggles that they had when they got started and

that they had when they got started and

that they had when they got started and I didn’t want to regret for the rest of

I didn’t want to regret for the rest of

I didn’t want to regret for the rest of my life that I quit too soon I looked at

my life that I quit too soon I looked at

my life that I quit too soon I looked at their success and I research what made

their success and I research what made

their success and I research what made them so successful walk gotten to that

them so successful walk gotten to that

them so successful walk gotten to that point and applied it to my business but

point and applied it to my business but

point and applied it to my business but more importantly was just knowing that I

more importantly was just knowing that I

more importantly was just knowing that I wasn’t alone in this like other people

wasn’t alone in this like other people

wasn’t alone in this like other people are struggling to everybody struggles

are struggling to everybody struggles

are struggling to everybody struggles with their business from your local dry

with their business from your local dry

with their business from your local dry cleaner local pizza shop all the way up

cleaner local pizza shop all the way up

cleaner local pizza shop all the way up to Donald Trump and Bill Gates these

to Donald Trump and Bill Gates these

to Donald Trump and Bill Gates these guys are all struggling at times in the

guys are all struggling at times in the

guys are all struggling at times in the business the frustration can be used as

business the frustration can be used as

business the frustration can be used as a tool to get you through the model

a tool to get you through the model

a tool to get you through the model success work the second one again was

success work the second one again was

success work the second one again was remember why do

remember why do

remember why do and I looked at my customers and I

and I looked at my customers and I

and I looked at my customers and I looked at the great feedback that we got

looked at the great feedback that we got

looked at the great feedback that we got I wasn’t giving a lot of customers I

I wasn’t giving a lot of customers I

I wasn’t giving a lot of customers I wasn’t making a lot of money but I had

wasn’t making a lot of money but I had

wasn’t making a lot of money but I had some customers and they liked it and it

some customers and they liked it and it

some customers and they liked it and it was helping them and reading their

was helping them and reading their

was helping them and reading their stories and reading their emails made me

stories and reading their emails made me

stories and reading their emails made me want to keep going you know like I feel

want to keep going you know like I feel

want to keep going you know like I feel like it let these guys down and we had a

like it let these guys down and we had a

like it let these guys down and we had a noble purpose for this business if I

noble purpose for this business if I

noble purpose for this business if I needed to keep it going and in the last

needed to keep it going and in the last

needed to keep it going and in the last part is using it as fuel I didn’t want

part is using it as fuel I didn’t want

part is using it as fuel I didn’t want to quit you know I was facing huge

to quit you know I was facing huge

to quit you know I was facing huge resistance but I didn’t want to quit I

resistance but I didn’t want to quit I

resistance but I didn’t want to quit I didn’t want that mark on me I didn’t

didn’t want that mark on me I didn’t

didn’t want that mark on me I didn’t want to regret this for the rest of my

want to regret this for the rest of my

want to regret this for the rest of my life and so I kept going and it was hard

life and so I kept going and it was hard

life and so I kept going and it was hard it was brutally hard and you’re going to

it was brutally hard and you’re going to

it was brutally hard and you’re going to go through something similar if you

go through something similar if you

go through something similar if you haven’t already multiple times but know

haven’t already multiple times but know

haven’t already multiple times but know that you’re not alone everybody goes

that you’re not alone everybody goes

that you’re not alone everybody goes through these phases completely natural

through these phases completely natural

through these phases completely natural and you can break through thank you guys

and you can break through thank you guys

and you can break through thank you guys so much for joining me for another great

so much for joining me for another great

so much for joining me for another great show I want to thank especially my

show I want to thank especially my

show I want to thank especially my producers for NASA and Doc Ock is back

producers for NASA and Doc Ock is back

producers for NASA and Doc Ock is back love you guys so much and I’m on every

love you guys so much and I’m on every

love you guys so much and I’m on every two weeks I’m back love to hear you guys

two weeks I’m back love to hear you guys

two weeks I’m back love to hear you guys at the sink hit me up on Twitter I’m

at the sink hit me up on Twitter I’m

at the sink hit me up on Twitter I’m asked Evan Carmichael thank you so much

asked Evan Carmichael thank you so much

asked Evan Carmichael thank you so much and I’ll see you in two weeks

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