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Coming up with your BIG idea! – Live Q&A with Evan and @SKellyCEO


all right hello everyone and welcome to

all right hello everyone and welcome to another YouTube hang out I’m super

another YouTube hang out I’m super

another YouTube hang out I’m super excited today to be talking to you about

excited today to be talking to you about

excited today to be talking to you about how to come up with that big idea to

how to come up with that big idea to

how to come up with that big idea to launch your business and I’m also really

launch your business and I’m also really

launch your business and I’m also really excited to have a special guest with me

excited to have a special guest with me

excited to have a special guest with me today Steven Kelley is the CEO of sage

today Steven Kelley is the CEO of sage

today Steven Kelley is the CEO of sage and they have the accounting software

and they have the accounting software

and they have the accounting software company and they’ve got you know over

company and they’ve got you know over

company and they’ve got you know over 10,000 employees and you may know them

10,000 employees and you may know them

10,000 employees and you may know them and use them in your business why i love

and use them in your business why i love

and use them in your business why i love steven is this guy and welcome to

steven is this guy and welcome to

steven is this guy and welcome to another yo kinda amazing super expose

another yo kinda amazing super expose

another yo kinda amazing super expose Etta Stephen Stephen cares about

Etta Stephen Stephen cares about

Etta Stephen Stephen cares about entrepreneurs this guy actually cares

entrepreneurs this guy actually cares

entrepreneurs this guy actually cares about entrepreneurs where I’ve met with

about entrepreneurs where I’ve met with

about entrepreneurs where I’ve met with a ton of CEOs who sell the entrepreneurs

a ton of CEOs who sell the entrepreneurs

a ton of CEOs who sell the entrepreneurs and it just kind of pay lip service

and it just kind of pay lip service

and it just kind of pay lip service because if our customers but this guy

because if our customers but this guy

because if our customers but this guy actually has a passion to help small

actually has a passion to help small

actually has a passion to help small business owners out and I wanted to have

business owners out and I wanted to have

business owners out and I wanted to have them on today for this hangout so Steven

them on today for this hangout so Steven

them on today for this hangout so Steven welcome aboard great to be here Evan

welcome aboard great to be here Evan

welcome aboard great to be here Evan you’re right I’ve got a passion around

you’re right I’ve got a passion around

you’re right I’ve got a passion around small and medium businesses these guys

small and medium businesses these guys

small and medium businesses these guys on knows you and I know you guys out

on knows you and I know you guys out

on knows you and I know you guys out there the risk takers you that the

there the risk takers you that the

there the risk takers you that the heroes of your kind so we love you love

heroes of your kind so we love you love

heroes of your kind so we love you love it now we have a lot of people already

it now we have a lot of people already

it now we have a lot of people already asking questions we’re talking about how

asking questions we’re talking about how

asking questions we’re talking about how to get started how to cope with that big

to get started how to cope with that big

to get started how to cope with that big idea so I’m curious if you have any

idea so I’m curious if you have any

idea so I’m curious if you have any general advice off the top what do you

general advice off the top what do you

general advice off the top what do you recommend in terms of coming up with

recommend in terms of coming up with

recommend in terms of coming up with that big idea for your new business yeah

that big idea for your new business yeah

that big idea for your new business yeah I think um it’s kind of like the essence

I think um it’s kind of like the essence

I think um it’s kind of like the essence of life is you know follow your dreams

of life is you know follow your dreams

of life is you know follow your dreams do you love so if you’re passionate

do you love so if you’re passionate

do you love so if you’re passionate about cycling and your passion about

about cycling and your passion about

about cycling and your passion about service you know what I ran a small

service you know what I ran a small

service you know what I ran a small business myself and I was absolutely

business myself and I was absolutely

business myself and I was absolutely loved fixing really complicated problems

loved fixing really complicated problems

loved fixing really complicated problems around customer service so I work for a

around customer service so I work for a

around customer service so I work for a start-up out of California back in 97

start-up out of California back in 97

start-up out of California back in 97 and that’s what we did and we try to

and that’s what we did and we try to

and that’s what we did and we try to transform the way banks who had a really

transform the way banks who had a really

transform the way banks who had a really messy customer service dealt with their

messy customer service dealt with their

messy customer service dealt with their consumers like you and me ah and and you

consumers like you and me ah and and you

consumers like you and me ah and and you know it was a pretty kind of scary ride

know it was a pretty kind of scary ride

know it was a pretty kind of scary ride a roller coaster of worried about

a roller coaster of worried about

a roller coaster of worried about payroll every month but at the end the

payroll every month but at the end the

payroll every month but at the end the day everybody in that company was

day everybody in that company was

day everybody in that company was passionate about one thing about kind of

passionate about one thing about kind of

passionate about one thing about kind of really fixing the problem so whatever

really fixing the problem so whatever

really fixing the problem so whatever your passion is it’s almost like what

your passion is it’s almost like what

your passion is it’s almost like what what advice he gives your kids in terms

what advice he gives your kids in terms

what advice he gives your kids in terms of what

of what

of what a college study doing in love do your

a college study doing in love do your

a college study doing in love do your passion about because then you’ll be an

passion about because then you’ll be an

passion about because then you’ll be an expert in that area and you will be able

expert in that area and you will be able

expert in that area and you will be able to recruit a volunteer army of kind of

to recruit a volunteer army of kind of

to recruit a volunteer army of kind of reboot fans its customers so I think

reboot fans its customers so I think

reboot fans its customers so I think that’s kind of lesson number one and you

that’s kind of lesson number one and you

that’s kind of lesson number one and you got to think about it evidence work you

got to think about it evidence work you

got to think about it evidence work you if you start a business and I don’t say

if you start a business and I don’t say

if you start a business and I don’t say you want to want to live your dreams

you want to want to live your dreams

you want to want to live your dreams which most people want to do it’s much

which most people want to do it’s much

which most people want to do it’s much better to feel really excited about the

better to feel really excited about the

better to feel really excited about the product is selling all this service they

product is selling all this service they

product is selling all this service they deliver to really believe in it to be

deliver to really believe in it to be

deliver to really believe in it to be the expert for their customers yeah I

the expert for their customers yeah I

the expert for their customers yeah I couldn’t agree with you more and I think

couldn’t agree with you more and I think

couldn’t agree with you more and I think too many people start a business just

too many people start a business just

too many people start a business just because they’re trying to make money you

because they’re trying to make money you

because they’re trying to make money you know they look at here the top ten new

know they look at here the top ten new

know they look at here the top ten new business ideas for you from The Wall

business ideas for you from The Wall

business ideas for you from The Wall Street Journal at the top 10 hottest

Street Journal at the top 10 hottest

Street Journal at the top 10 hottest industries to get into so I’m going to

industries to get into so I’m going to

industries to get into so I’m going to go jump in and do that where you don’t

go jump in and do that where you don’t

go jump in and do that where you don’t actually have a love for that industry

actually have a love for that industry

actually have a love for that industry of that product and and you’re never

of that product and and you’re never

of that product and and you’re never going to make it so the key like every

going to make it so the key like every

going to make it so the key like every success I’ve had is because I have built

success I’ve had is because I have built

success I’ve had is because I have built something that was for me that was

something that was for me that was

something that was for me that was selfish that I love and then I share

selfish that I love and then I share

selfish that I love and then I share that with the world I think that’s

that with the world I think that’s

that with the world I think that’s definitely right approaches start with

definitely right approaches start with

definitely right approaches start with start with something your passion what

start with something your passion what

start with something your passion what you get to get too excited because as

you get to get too excited because as

you get to get too excited because as soon as it gets hard and it’s going to

soon as it gets hard and it’s going to

soon as it gets hard and it’s going to get hard it’s that passion is going to

get hard it’s that passion is going to

get hard it’s that passion is going to keep it going get you through it yeah

keep it going get you through it yeah

keep it going get you through it yeah the other thing I you know I think

the other thing I you know I think

the other thing I you know I think you’re lucky if you can find something

you’re lucky if you can find something

you’re lucky if you can find something you love and then also find existing

you love and then also find existing

you love and then also find existing service providers or product creators

service providers or product creators

service providers or product creators who just drive you crazy so if you get

who just drive you crazy so if you get

who just drive you crazy so if you get frustrated about a service a web service

frustrated about a service a web service

frustrated about a service a web service product and you think wow there’s gotta

product and you think wow there’s gotta

product and you think wow there’s gotta be a better way then that’s you’re

be a better way then that’s you’re

be a better way then that’s you’re probably on to some here and there’s so

probably on to some here and there’s so

probably on to some here and there’s so many great companies been created out of

many great companies been created out of

many great companies been created out of frustration where the existing guys by

frustration where the existing guys by

frustration where the existing guys by the god honestly complacent or they’ve

the god honestly complacent or they’ve

the god honestly complacent or they’ve just kind of forgot their customers and

just kind of forgot their customers and

just kind of forgot their customers and they forgot it at seven and its crew a

they forgot it at seven and its crew a

they forgot it at seven and its crew a huge opportunity particularly you know

huge opportunity particularly you know

huge opportunity particularly you know the world of the digital economy where

the world of the digital economy where

the world of the digital economy where you know entrepreneurs can start

you know entrepreneurs can start

you know entrepreneurs can start businesses so um something you remember

businesses so um something you remember

businesses so um something you remember kind of like brandy temple who’s a

kind of like brandy temple who’s a

kind of like brandy temple who’s a business started out frustration on at

business started out frustration on at

business started out frustration on at home wanna how great clothes want to

home wanna how great clothes want to

home wanna how great clothes want to have everything intuitive

have everything intuitive

have everything intuitive terms of clothes for kids and stuff like

terms of clothes for kids and stuff like

terms of clothes for kids and stuff like that so witness gaps in the marketplace

that so witness gaps in the marketplace

that so witness gaps in the marketplace when you see huge frustration as a

when you see huge frustration as a

when you see huge frustration as a consumer or business to business user

consumer or business to business user

consumer or business to business user that’s also probably a catalyst saying

that’s also probably a catalyst saying

that’s also probably a catalyst saying there’s a business idea here we’re

there’s a business idea here we’re

there’s a business idea here we’re absolutely is part of a dream something

absolutely is part of a dream something

absolutely is part of a dream something I’m passionate about and these guys

I’m passionate about and these guys

I’m passionate about and these guys aren’t doing a good job and I could go a

aren’t doing a good job and I could go a

aren’t doing a good job and I could go a lot better I love it I love it the

lot better I love it I love it the

lot better I love it I love it the advice is awesome so how this is going

advice is awesome so how this is going

advice is awesome so how this is going to work guys usual YouTube hang out with

to work guys usual YouTube hang out with

to work guys usual YouTube hang out with me there’s a there’s a chat section

me there’s a there’s a chat section

me there’s a there’s a chat section you’re on the right where if you want to

you’re on the right where if you want to

you’re on the right where if you want to leave your questions for me and Stephen

leave your questions for me and Stephen

leave your questions for me and Stephen we’re going to try to get through all of

we’re going to try to get through all of

we’re going to try to get through all of them and also feel free to joining the

them and also feel free to joining the

them and also feel free to joining the chart in support each other i know a lot

chart in support each other i know a lot

chart in support each other i know a lot of the best ideas also come from you

of the best ideas also come from you

of the best ideas also come from you guys helping each other out so the first

guys helping each other out so the first

guys helping each other out so the first question comes in is jason who wrote in

question comes in is jason who wrote in

question comes in is jason who wrote in the say he has a fear of failure how do

the say he has a fear of failure how do

the say he has a fear of failure how do i get over my fear of failure what do

i get over my fear of failure what do

i get over my fear of failure what do you think Stephen you know that some guy

you think Stephen you know that some guy

you think Stephen you know that some guy I look at myself Tommy every week I I

I look at myself Tommy every week I I

I look at myself Tommy every week I I probably fair that something I think

probably fair that something I think

probably fair that something I think it’s a really good point I think as

it’s a really good point I think as

it’s a really good point I think as human beings the way we kind of

human beings the way we kind of

human beings the way we kind of indoctrinated by the education system is

indoctrinated by the education system is

indoctrinated by the education system is all about passing exams and perfection

all about passing exams and perfection

all about passing exams and perfection and that’s not real life that’s not

and that’s not real life that’s not

and that’s not real life that’s not business business is all about making a

business business is all about making a

business business is all about making a lot of mistakes and one one man trying

lot of mistakes and one one man trying

lot of mistakes and one one man trying to use internally ear it’s ages fell

to use internally ear it’s ages fell

to use internally ear it’s ages fell fast learn quickly and also I kind of

fast learn quickly and also I kind of

fast learn quickly and also I kind of think because of the fear of failure

think because of the fear of failure

think because of the fear of failure people spend way too much time building

people spend way too much time building

people spend way too much time building fancy business plans that never see the

fancy business plans that never see the

fancy business plans that never see the light of day or over-engineering crazy

light of day or over-engineering crazy

light of day or over-engineering crazy strategies and fancy diagrams and stuff

strategies and fancy diagrams and stuff

strategies and fancy diagrams and stuff as if they’re you know GE or someone

as if they’re you know GE or someone

as if they’re you know GE or someone like that you’re much better test drive

like that you’re much better test drive

like that you’re much better test drive and getting into execution fading fast

and getting into execution fading fast

and getting into execution fading fast course correction find out and again you

course correction find out and again you

course correction find out and again you know the world you’ve really kind of

know the world you’ve really kind of

know the world you’ve really kind of captured this ever around social media

captured this ever around social media

captured this ever around social media you can find out in nanoseconds customer

you can find out in nanoseconds customer

you can find out in nanoseconds customer reaction and therefore you can involve

reaction and therefore you can involve

reaction and therefore you can involve your product strategy in minutes um so I

your product strategy in minutes um so I

your product strategy in minutes um so I kind of think the whole essence of great

kind of think the whole essence of great

kind of think the whole essence of great business is great star knots of people

business is great star knots of people

business is great star knots of people who fail fast and I’ve got passion

who fail fast and I’ve got passion

who fail fast and I’ve got passion around learning improve

around learning improve

around learning improve I love it I would add that I think think

I love it I would add that I think think

I love it I would add that I think think people see failure as this big huge

people see failure as this big huge

people see failure as this big huge negative thing you should avoid where

negative thing you should avoid where

negative thing you should avoid where it’s it’s just part of the process if

it’s it’s just part of the process if

it’s it’s just part of the process if you try to do something and avoid any

you try to do something and avoid any

you try to do something and avoid any kind of failure than your plane it’s so

kind of failure than your plane it’s so

kind of failure than your plane it’s so safe that that you’re never going to

safe that that you’re never going to

safe that that you’re never going to accomplish your goal and so failure is

accomplish your goal and so failure is

accomplish your goal and so failure is not the enemy it’s just making sure you

not the enemy it’s just making sure you

not the enemy it’s just making sure you don’t fail huge right you’re going to

don’t fail huge right you’re going to

don’t fail huge right you’re going to fail a lot along your weight think about

fail a lot along your weight think about

fail a lot along your weight think about anything that you learned right you you

anything that you learned right you you

anything that you learned right you you wrote a bike you fell down you learn to

wrote a bike you fell down you learn to

wrote a bike you fell down you learn to ski you fell down you learn French you

ski you fell down you learn French you

ski you fell down you learn French you made mistakes like failure is just part

made mistakes like failure is just part

made mistakes like failure is just part of the process you can’t avoid it it’s

of the process you can’t avoid it it’s

of the process you can’t avoid it it’s just understanding that you’re using

just understanding that you’re using

just understanding that you’re using that that leverage that you’ve learned

that that leverage that you’ve learned

that that leverage that you’ve learned to then make your product your service

to then make your product your service

to then make your product your service your business better and so just bail

your business better and so just bail

your business better and so just bail fast feel smarter feel smaller so that

fast feel smarter feel smaller so that

fast feel smarter feel smaller so that you can get to where you want to go and

you can get to where you want to go and

you can get to where you want to go and so don’t fear failure because it’s going

so don’t fear failure because it’s going

so don’t fear failure because it’s going to happen and I think just understanding

to happen and I think just understanding

to happen and I think just understanding that might relieve some of the pressure

that might relieve some of the pressure

that might relieve some of the pressure like you don’t have to be perfect as

like you don’t have to be perfect as

like you don’t have to be perfect as perfect doesn’t exist and fairly what

perfect doesn’t exist and fairly what

perfect doesn’t exist and fairly what happened along the way to you achieving

happened along the way to you achieving

happened along the way to you achieving your goal yeah yeah everything is test

your goal yeah yeah everything is test

your goal yeah yeah everything is test drive often you know test drive you talk

drive often you know test drive you talk

drive often you know test drive you talk about riding the bike ride in your car

about riding the bike ride in your car

about riding the bike ride in your car getting your license you have to test

getting your license you have to test

getting your license you have to test drive yeah in business you have to

drive yeah in business you have to

drive yeah in business you have to absolutely and then probably every month

absolutely and then probably every month

absolutely and then probably every month every year you need to be reinvented

every year you need to be reinvented

every year you need to be reinvented itself hopefully the world we live in

itself hopefully the world we live in

itself hopefully the world we live in particular social medias about tweaks

particular social medias about tweaks

particular social medias about tweaks today from customers then guys you could

today from customers then guys you could

today from customers then guys you could do a better job that is the best

do a better job that is the best

do a better job that is the best feedback like a nap every day I live and

feedback like a nap every day I live and

feedback like a nap every day I live and die by taking feedback and change in the

die by taking feedback and change in the

die by taking feedback and change in the course in terms of the service

course in terms of the service

course in terms of the service composition all the products or whatever

composition all the products or whatever

composition all the products or whatever it is we’re out there doing so I think

it is we’re out there doing so I think

it is we’re out there doing so I think kind of directly geopoint evidence is

kind of directly geopoint evidence is

kind of directly geopoint evidence is something which would probably train

something which would probably train

something which would probably train through the kind of education systems a

through the kind of education systems a

through the kind of education systems a negative I see is a really massive

negative I see is a really massive

negative I see is a really massive positive I love it um next one is am I

positive I love it um next one is am I

positive I love it um next one is am I and/or my big idea good enough whoo am I

and/or my big idea good enough whoo am I

and/or my big idea good enough whoo am I good enough what do you think little

good enough what do you think little

good enough what do you think little relief I’d say a bit of advice I got you

relief I’d say a bit of advice I got you

relief I’d say a bit of advice I got you know again I started I grow up if I had

know again I started I grow up if I had

know again I started I grow up if I had two small businesses and the great thing

two small businesses and the great thing

two small businesses and the great thing about small business with three fighters

about small business with three fighters

about small business with three fighters were offering where are they were

were offering where are they were

were offering where are they were customer time

customer time

customer time and and everything you should focus is

and and everything you should focus is

and and everything you should focus is actually doing good enough and learning

actually doing good enough and learning

actually doing good enough and learning and improving I would advocate number

and improving I would advocate number

and improving I would advocate number one don’t try and come up back to your

one don’t try and come up back to your

one don’t try and come up back to your first point really Evan with the Holy

first point really Evan with the Holy

first point really Evan with the Holy Grail don’t worry about perfection

Grail don’t worry about perfection

Grail don’t worry about perfection actually get a business off the ground

actually get a business off the ground

actually get a business off the ground engage your customers get a flight out

engage your customers get a flight out

engage your customers get a flight out I’ll get the service proposition out and

I’ll get the service proposition out and

I’ll get the service proposition out and then learn fast improved so I kind of

then learn fast improved so I kind of

then learn fast improved so I kind of think if you think it’s good enough

think if you think it’s good enough

think if you think it’s good enough you’re passionate about it you love what

you’re passionate about it you love what

you’re passionate about it you love what you’re doing and you think there’s a gap

you’re doing and you think there’s a gap

you’re doing and you think there’s a gap in the mob go and find out test drive it

in the mob go and find out test drive it

in the mob go and find out test drive it with friends could be are you know

with friends could be are you know

with friends could be are you know trommel customers and then you’ll find

trommel customers and then you’ll find

trommel customers and then you’ll find out really quickly whether it’s good

out really quickly whether it’s good

out really quickly whether it’s good enough you know the rubber hits the very

enough you know the rubber hits the very

enough you know the rubber hits the very what customers tell you that you’ve got

what customers tell you that you’ve got

what customers tell you that you’ve got the best product in the world and you

the best product in the world and you

the best product in the world and you know view actually the early customers

know view actually the early customers

know view actually the early customers again when I kind of started this

again when I kind of started this

again when I kind of started this business in California we said the first

business in California we said the first

business in California we said the first 20 customers they’ve got to be raving

20 customers they’ve got to be raving

20 customers they’ve got to be raving fans they got to be evangelist they got

fans they got to be evangelist they got

fans they got to be evangelist they got a you know when you cut into the DNA of

a you know when you cut into the DNA of

a you know when you cut into the DNA of them they gotta believe in us because

them they gotta believe in us because

them they gotta believe in us because we’re there for them built rusticana

we’re there for them built rusticana

we’re there for them built rusticana because you know with all these things

because you know with all these things

because you know with all these things again with social media those 20 guys

again with social media those 20 guys

again with social media those 20 guys from to come thousands of guys and and

from to come thousands of guys and and

from to come thousands of guys and and no it goes viral so I wouldn’t worry too

no it goes viral so I wouldn’t worry too

no it goes viral so I wouldn’t worry too much about analyzing again is it good

much about analyzing again is it good

much about analyzing again is it good enough I’d get into the execution phase

enough I’d get into the execution phase

enough I’d get into the execution phase and start test on and again one of the

and start test on and again one of the

and start test on and again one of the phrase on use around here is a class

phrase on use around here is a class

phrase on use around here is a class strategy of in class execution is always

strategy of in class execution is always

strategy of in class execution is always inferior to be fast for a DNA class

inferior to be fast for a DNA class

inferior to be fast for a DNA class execution get out and find out what work

execution get out and find out what work

execution get out and find out what work to improve it yeah i love it i wanna i

to improve it yeah i love it i wanna i

to improve it yeah i love it i wanna i love that I love that a Class B Class

love that I love that a Class B Class

love that I love that a Class B Class thing is cool I’m I might take that from

thing is cool I’m I might take that from

thing is cool I’m I might take that from you mindset is super important here uh

you mindset is super important here uh

you mindset is super important here uh you have to believe you know right

you have to believe you know right

you have to believe you know right believe you got to believe that your

believe you got to believe that your

believe you got to believe that your idea is good enough and every major

idea is good enough and every major

idea is good enough and every major breakthrough that I’ve had in my

breakthrough that I’ve had in my

breakthrough that I’ve had in my business career has been because I’ve

business career has been because I’ve

business career has been because I’ve shattered a limiting belief that I had

shattered a limiting belief that I had

shattered a limiting belief that I had in my first business was a it was a

in my first business was a it was a

in my first business was a it was a biotech software company I was 19 years

biotech software company I was 19 years

biotech software company I was 19 years old I was selling to scientists

old I was selling to scientists

old I was selling to scientists researchers who were three times my age

researchers who were three times my age

researchers who were three times my age had PhDs all these degrees and the story

had PhDs all these degrees and the story

had PhDs all these degrees and the story I told myself was I’m too young to do

I told myself was I’m too young to do

I told myself was I’m too young to do this I’m they’re never going to take me

this I’m they’re never going to take me

this I’m they’re never going to take me seriously and as long as I believe

seriously and as long as I believe

seriously and as long as I believe as long as I was a story I told myself

as long as I was a story I told myself

as long as I was a story I told myself then it was a self-fulfilling prophecy

then it was a self-fulfilling prophecy

then it was a self-fulfilling prophecy that actually happened and then the

that actually happened and then the

that actually happened and then the shift came when I realized that hey I

shift came when I realized that hey I

shift came when I realized that hey I can actually provide value to these

can actually provide value to these

can actually provide value to these people right they don’t care about my

people right they don’t care about my

people right they don’t care about my background and my credentials as long as

background and my credentials as long as

background and my credentials as long as I can actually help them accomplish

I can actually help them accomplish

I can actually help them accomplish something important in what they’re

something important in what they’re

something important in what they’re doing and like we’d all have our own

doing and like we’d all have our own

doing and like we’d all have our own limiting beliefs we tell ourselves we’re

limiting beliefs we tell ourselves we’re

limiting beliefs we tell ourselves we’re too young we’re too old we don’t have

too young we’re too old we don’t have

too young we’re too old we don’t have the right parents we don’t have the

the right parents we don’t have the

the right parents we don’t have the educational background I don’t have

educational background I don’t have

educational background I don’t have enough money I don’t have you know

enough money I don’t have you know

enough money I don’t have you know whatever excuse you come up with as long

whatever excuse you come up with as long

whatever excuse you come up with as long as you believe that story then it’s

as you believe that story then it’s

as you believe that story then it’s going to come true and again once you

going to come true and again once you

going to come true and again once you realize that that’s just a story you’re

realize that that’s just a story you’re

realize that that’s just a story you’re telling yourself and you accept

telling yourself and you accept

telling yourself and you accept responsibility for your life and not

responsibility for your life and not

responsibility for your life and not blame the conditions then you can see if

blame the conditions then you can see if

blame the conditions then you can see if they break through in your business yeah

they break through in your business yeah

they break through in your business yeah group oh cool next up help her desk I

group oh cool next up help her desk I

group oh cool next up help her desk I thought if we need to start a channel

thought if we need to start a channel

thought if we need to start a channel about a new passion and update your

about a new passion and update your

about a new passion and update your progress as you improve for example I

progress as you improve for example I

progress as you improve for example I love surfing yet I’ve never been would

love surfing yet I’ve never been would

love surfing yet I’ve never been would watch me learn to surf be a good idea

watch me learn to surf be a good idea

watch me learn to surf be a good idea yeah um I kind of think again anything

yeah um I kind of think again anything

yeah um I kind of think again anything you know I am a massive fan a couple of

you know I am a massive fan a couple of

you know I am a massive fan a couple of things one is busy Lawson success looks

things one is busy Lawson success looks

things one is busy Lawson success looks like and actually is a great way to

like and actually is a great way to

like and actually is a great way to overcome your sort of self believes and

overcome your sort of self believes and

overcome your sort of self believes and limitations because if you visualize

limitations because if you visualize

limitations because if you visualize yourself being successful you know

yourself being successful you know

yourself being successful you know actually changes what’s in your head and

actually changes what’s in your head and

actually changes what’s in your head and you believe all um the other thing that

you believe all um the other thing that

you believe all um the other thing that kind of pretty significant here is I

kind of pretty significant here is I

kind of pretty significant here is I think there’s a lot of things now of the

think there’s a lot of things now of the

think there’s a lot of things now of the world we live in a global village and

world we live in a global village and

world we live in a global village and everything’s available to everybody and

everything’s available to everybody and

everything’s available to everybody and it’s just unimaginable the Internet’s

it’s just unimaginable the Internet’s

it’s just unimaginable the Internet’s changed online so so the things like

changed online so so the things like

changed online so so the things like kind of surfing stuff like that and cool

kind of surfing stuff like that and cool

kind of surfing stuff like that and cool incredible sports around there so I

incredible sports around there so I

incredible sports around there so I think again if there’s a passion there’s

think again if there’s a passion there’s

think again if there’s a passion there’s an idea I’d encourage everybody to be

an idea I’d encourage everybody to be

an idea I’d encourage everybody to be disruptor to innovate innovate innovate

disruptor to innovate innovate innovate

disruptor to innovate innovate innovate and create something that’s kind of very

and create something that’s kind of very

and create something that’s kind of very different in general different

different in general different

different in general different experience so you go for it you’ll find

experience so you go for it you’ll find

experience so you go for it you’ll find out quickly if you launch a business

out quickly if you launch a business

out quickly if you launch a business like that whether there’s a lot of

like that whether there’s a lot of

like that whether there’s a lot of interest of arms and what is the right

interest of arms and what is the right

interest of arms and what is the right time yeah I mean to add to that I would

time yeah I mean to add to that I would

time yeah I mean to add to that I would say as a general principle in business

say as a general principle in business

say as a general principle in business if you provide value to people you will

if you provide value to people you will

if you provide value to people you will make money

make money

make money right you provide more value make more

right you provide more value make more

right you provide more value make more money provide value quickly you’ll make

money provide value quickly you’ll make

money provide value quickly you’ll make money quickly it’s about providing value

money quickly it’s about providing value

money quickly it’s about providing value to somebody else and so you know if you

to somebody else and so you know if you

to somebody else and so you know if you don’t know how to surf then your value

don’t know how to surf then your value

don’t know how to surf then your value won’t be in providing expert surf tips

won’t be in providing expert surf tips

won’t be in providing expert surf tips right because you’re not the surfer yet

right because you’re not the surfer yet

right because you’re not the surfer yet but I love the idea of taking people

but I love the idea of taking people

but I love the idea of taking people along the journey with you because your

along the journey with you because your

along the journey with you because your approach it from a beginner’s mind and

approach it from a beginner’s mind and

approach it from a beginner’s mind and they will learn as you learn and for

they will learn as you learn and for

they will learn as you learn and for anybody who’s starting a new project I’m

anybody who’s starting a new project I’m

anybody who’s starting a new project I’m a huge believer in in Craig on youtube

a huge believer in in Craig on youtube

a huge believer in in Craig on youtube channel or in allowing people to follow

channel or in allowing people to follow

channel or in allowing people to follow you and what you’re doing on Twitter or

you and what you’re doing on Twitter or

you and what you’re doing on Twitter or Facebook and keep updating them and as

Facebook and keep updating them and as

Facebook and keep updating them and as you make mistakes and as you learn you

you make mistakes and as you learn you

you make mistakes and as you learn you create content about that I’m writing my

create content about that I’m writing my

create content about that I’m writing my first book with with penguin Random

first book with with penguin Random

first book with with penguin Random House I’ve never written a book before

House I’ve never written a book before

House I’ve never written a book before and every week I make a video on my

and every week I make a video on my

and every week I make a video on my youtube channel about my book writing

youtube channel about my book writing

youtube channel about my book writing process frustrations I have winds that

process frustrations I have winds that

process frustrations I have winds that I’m having I answer your questions and

I’m having I answer your questions and

I’m having I answer your questions and I’m bringing you along the journey with

I’m bringing you along the journey with

I’m bringing you along the journey with me to help you understand that book

me to help you understand that book

me to help you understand that book writing process I can’t make a book

writing process I can’t make a book

writing process I can’t make a book about uh sir I can’t make a video go

about uh sir I can’t make a video go

about uh sir I can’t make a video go here’s the 10 things you need to do to

here’s the 10 things you need to do to

here’s the 10 things you need to do to write a best-seller book because I

write a best-seller book because I

write a best-seller book because I haven’t done it yet but I can make those

haven’t done it yet but I can make those

haven’t done it yet but I can make those videos about my journey and so I think I

videos about my journey and so I think I

videos about my journey and so I think I think that’s the value that you can add

think that’s the value that you can add

think that’s the value that you can add as a kind of side twist to this a little

as a kind of side twist to this a little

as a kind of side twist to this a little curveball I’d add is I think making it

curveball I’d add is I think making it

curveball I’d add is I think making it public and also keep you on track with

public and also keep you on track with

public and also keep you on track with your business I think if you are

your business I think if you are

your business I think if you are starting up any new thing it could be it

starting up any new thing it could be it

starting up any new thing it could be it can be exciting but also frustrating

can be exciting but also frustrating

can be exciting but also frustrating then lonely and you may go out and you

then lonely and you may go out and you

then lonely and you may go out and you start surfing and you fall and you fail

start surfing and you fall and you fail

start surfing and you fall and you fail and the guy that’s it I’m done I’m never

and the guy that’s it I’m done I’m never

and the guy that’s it I’m done I’m never going to be good at this but if you now

going to be good at this but if you now

going to be good at this but if you now have a community of people supporting

have a community of people supporting

have a community of people supporting you and cheering you on and you’re

you and cheering you on and you’re

you and cheering you on and you’re committed to them you’re much more

committed to them you’re much more

committed to them you’re much more likely to follow through just like when

likely to follow through just like when

likely to follow through just like when you tell your friend hit come to the gym

you tell your friend hit come to the gym

you tell your friend hit come to the gym with me you’re going to go to take that

with me you’re going to go to take that

with me you’re going to go to take that Jim appointment and so I think that the

Jim appointment and so I think that the

Jim appointment and so I think that the side benefit could be it gives you a lot

side benefit could be it gives you a lot

side benefit could be it gives you a lot more motivation as well to actually

more motivation as well to actually

more motivation as well to actually execute against your plan in the Lotus

execute against your plan in the Lotus

execute against your plan in the Lotus of your interview maestressa but

of your interview maestressa but

of your interview maestressa but everybody’s posting stuff on Facebook

everybody’s posting stuff on Facebook

everybody’s posting stuff on Facebook Instagram and it sort of piece of vision

Instagram and it sort of piece of vision

Instagram and it sort of piece of vision of the world that’s perfect everyone is

of the world that’s perfect everyone is

of the world that’s perfect everyone is a celebrity go to vegas the weekend

a celebrity go to vegas the weekend

a celebrity go to vegas the weekend spring break everybody’s having fun all

spring break everybody’s having fun all

spring break everybody’s having fun all the time and kind of that’s not real so

the time and kind of that’s not real so

the time and kind of that’s not real so what you bring out

what you bring out

what you bring out people genuine real life kind of all

people genuine real life kind of all

people genuine real life kind of all abilities so if you’re out there and

abilities so if you’re out there and

abilities so if you’re out there and learning to surf you build a community

learning to surf you build a community

learning to surf you build a community and you share your kind of hold

and you share your kind of hold

and you share your kind of hold abilities that’s very engaging and kind

abilities that’s very engaging and kind

abilities that’s very engaging and kind of brings people with you and you know

of brings people with you and you know

of brings people with you and you know all the kind of face book heroes out

all the kind of face book heroes out

all the kind of face book heroes out there kind of out there’s kind of brands

there kind of out there’s kind of brands

there kind of out there’s kind of brands now a lot of it’s based on just

now a lot of it’s based on just

now a lot of it’s based on just connected with real life people with

connected with real life people with

connected with real life people with real life situations physics foreign

real life situations physics foreign

real life situations physics foreign people’s vulnerabilities you write your

people’s vulnerabilities you write your

people’s vulnerabilities you write your books that’s tough my everyday is a

books that’s tough my everyday is a

books that’s tough my everyday is a perfect day not every day comes out with

perfect day not every day comes out with

perfect day not every day comes out with the best chapter so I kind of think

the best chapter so I kind of think

the best chapter so I kind of think there’s you’re onto something there by

there’s you’re onto something there by

there’s you’re onto something there by disconnecting with people’s real life

disconnecting with people’s real life

disconnecting with people’s real life emotions but when there’s a Steven

emotions but when there’s a Steven

emotions but when there’s a Steven Kelley book coming out we’re gonna do

Kelley book coming out we’re gonna do

Kelley book coming out we’re gonna do one together deal I haven’t finished my

one together deal I haven’t finished my

one together deal I haven’t finished my first one though man it’s killing me oh

first one though man it’s killing me oh

first one though man it’s killing me oh okay I mix up tons of questions Jameel I

okay I mix up tons of questions Jameel I

okay I mix up tons of questions Jameel I love your speaking style maybe it’s the

love your speaking style maybe it’s the

love your speaking style maybe it’s the accent I don’t know if he’s talking to

accent I don’t know if he’s talking to

accent I don’t know if he’s talking to you or me but we got Canada and UK in

you or me but we got Canada and UK in

you or me but we got Canada and UK in the house uh how do I find the first few

the house uh how do I find the first few

the house uh how do I find the first few investors and keep them happy in my

investors and keep them happy in my

investors and keep them happy in my business yeah on this great question and

business yeah on this great question and

business yeah on this great question and you know one of these when I was in the

you know one of these when I was in the

you know one of these when I was in the start this is all kind of wind down side

start this is all kind of wind down side

start this is all kind of wind down side of your own pc money and all that sort

of your own pc money and all that sort

of your own pc money and all that sort of stuff um I think what I would advise

of stuff um I think what I would advise

of stuff um I think what I would advise generally if you got a great business

generally if you got a great business

generally if you got a great business idea you read it but even it’d probably

idea you read it but even it’d probably

idea you read it but even it’d probably start if you can do we did research

start if you can do we did research

start if you can do we did research assemblage set of our customers actually

assemblage set of our customers actually

assemblage set of our customers actually use your own life savings or people get

use your own life savings or people get

use your own life savings or people get their homes to fund their businesses I

their homes to fund their businesses I

their homes to fund their businesses I would be advocating if you can do go

would be advocating if you can do go

would be advocating if you can do go friends and family first ah and then you

friends and family first ah and then you

friends and family first ah and then you keep control and and you kind of you

keep control and and you kind of you

keep control and and you kind of you know again you can waste a lot of time

know again you can waste a lot of time

know again you can waste a lot of time go to banks go to finance houses go to

go to banks go to finance houses go to

go to banks go to finance houses go to VCS when you should be building your

VCS when you should be building your

VCS when you should be building your businesses a lot of your customers

businesses a lot of your customers

businesses a lot of your customers following to drink so I kind of put more

following to drink so I kind of put more

following to drink so I kind of put more emphasis that but it’s time to go is

emphasis that but it’s time to go is

emphasis that but it’s time to go is when you’ve got something that you think

when you’ve got something that you think

when you’ve got something that you think real tangible and they’ll call it a kind

real tangible and they’ll call it a kind

real tangible and they’ll call it a kind of proven business model but ultimately

of proven business model but ultimately

of proven business model but ultimately then you kind of have peer nails and

then you kind of have peer nails and

then you kind of have peer nails and cash flow projections and all that sort

cash flow projections and all that sort

cash flow projections and all that sort of stuff underneath it but the longer

of stuff underneath it but the longer

of stuff underneath it but the longer you can defer that I would be

you can defer that I would be

you can defer that I would be the big advocate and the only way that

the big advocate and the only way that

the big advocate and the only way that our argue against myself is if you come

our argue against myself is if you come

our argue against myself is if you come across something where you have got the

across something where you have got the

across something where you have got the next Facebook and it’s going to be so

next Facebook and it’s going to be so

next Facebook and it’s going to be so massive and so big and you’ve got to

massive and so big and you’ve got to

massive and so big and you’ve got to invest at scale we’ve gotta go global

invest at scale we’ve gotta go global

invest at scale we’ve gotta go global because you know you’re just going to

because you know you’re just going to

because you know you’re just going to miss that with your opportunity and then

miss that with your opportunity and then

miss that with your opportunity and then it might make sense to go I’m gonna good

it might make sense to go I’m gonna good

it might make sense to go I’m gonna good fruit and you know there’s a lot of

fruit and you know there’s a lot of

fruit and you know there’s a lot of people I Devon you know tons of people

people I Devon you know tons of people

people I Devon you know tons of people in Canada Toronto you can actually fund

in Canada Toronto you can actually fund

in Canada Toronto you can actually fund businesses in the UK in the u.s. angel

businesses in the UK in the u.s. angel

businesses in the UK in the u.s. angel investors probably are advocating the

investors probably are advocating the

investors probably are advocating the best route because again they’re not in

best route because again they’re not in

best route because again they’re not in vases they won’t interfere and they’ll

vases they won’t interfere and they’ll

vases they won’t interfere and they’ll give you capital based on business plan

give you capital based on business plan

give you capital based on business plan and trust and it allows you to get on

and trust and it allows you to get on

and trust and it allows you to get on and really kind of fun the next day to

and really kind of fun the next day to

and really kind of fun the next day to do business yeah I mean just to

do business yeah I mean just to

do business yeah I mean just to piggyback on that I think I hate

piggyback on that I think I hate

piggyback on that I think I hate spending money till I’m making money

spending money till I’m making money

spending money till I’m making money just as a general rule I think anybody

just as a general rule I think anybody

just as a general rule I think anybody can spend money if I give you a million

can spend money if I give you a million

can spend money if I give you a million dollars you can find a million different

dollars you can find a million different

dollars you can find a million different ways to spend it not everybody can make

ways to spend it not everybody can make

ways to spend it not everybody can make money and so that’s the discipline you

money and so that’s the discipline you

money and so that’s the discipline you need to learn and when you are out

need to learn and when you are out

need to learn and when you are out getting investors the hardest i used to

getting investors the hardest i used to

getting investors the hardest i used to be a VC I was raising half a million 15

be a VC I was raising half a million 15

be a VC I was raising half a million 15 million dollars for companies the

million dollars for companies the

million dollars for companies the hardest money to raise is the startup

hardest money to raise is the startup

hardest money to raise is the startup capital because it’s the riskiest time

capital because it’s the riskiest time

capital because it’s the riskiest time and they’ll take the biggest chunk of

and they’ll take the biggest chunk of

and they’ll take the biggest chunk of your business right they could take

your business right they could take

your business right they could take three percent of your business for a

three percent of your business for a

three percent of your business for a small amount of money because there’s a

small amount of money because there’s a

small amount of money because there’s a high risk where if you can show them

high risk where if you can show them

high risk where if you can show them that you can deliver a result then you

that you can deliver a result then you

that you can deliver a result then you can get some revenue that somebody’s

can get some revenue that somebody’s

can get some revenue that somebody’s willing to actually pay you for this the

willing to actually pay you for this the

willing to actually pay you for this the easiest kind of money to raise his

easiest kind of money to raise his

easiest kind of money to raise his expansion capital mean I’ve already

expansion capital mean I’ve already

expansion capital mean I’ve already selling I have some sales come in it now

selling I have some sales come in it now

selling I have some sales come in it now I need to grow that’s easy money to

I need to grow that’s easy money to

I need to grow that’s easy money to raise you’ll get a much better valuation

raise you’ll get a much better valuation

raise you’ll get a much better valuation and raising capital can’t be a full-time

and raising capital can’t be a full-time

and raising capital can’t be a full-time business for you and like Stephen said

business for you and like Stephen said

business for you and like Stephen said that takes your eye off the ball of

that takes your eye off the ball of

that takes your eye off the ball of actually running your business and so if

actually running your business and so if

actually running your business and so if i were you i would try as much as

i were you i would try as much as

i were you i would try as much as possible to focus on the execution find

possible to focus on the execution find

possible to focus on the execution find little ways to get started invest my

little ways to get started invest my

little ways to get started invest my hustle my time my energy not dollars and

hustle my time my energy not dollars and

hustle my time my energy not dollars and especially not other people’s dollars

especially not other people’s dollars

especially not other people’s dollars until I got to the point where I had a

until I got to the point where I had a

until I got to the point where I had a product that was out that was making

product that was out that was making

product that was out that was making some money i mean i’ll be profitable yet

some money i mean i’ll be profitable yet

some money i mean i’ll be profitable yet but i’m making money I have a path to

but i’m making money I have a path to

but i’m making money I have a path to profitability because that really

profitability because that really

profitability because that really reduces the risk and you’ll get a much

reduces the risk and you’ll get a much

reduces the risk and you’ll get a much better the

better the

better the from investors nature ah cool next

from investors nature ah cool next

from investors nature ah cool next crystal hello mr. caracal mr. Kelly so

crystal hello mr. caracal mr. Kelly so

crystal hello mr. caracal mr. Kelly so formal so far now mr. Kelly and mr.

formal so far now mr. Kelly and mr.

formal so far now mr. Kelly and mr. carmack look at us that that’s like a

carmack look at us that that’s like a

carmack look at us that that’s like a talk show or something I was 17 year old

talk show or something I was 17 year old

talk show or something I was 17 year old student I’m turning 18 September I asked

student I’m turning 18 September I asked

student I’m turning 18 September I asked my mom for capital so I can invest in a

my mom for capital so I can invest in a

my mom for capital so I can invest in a network marketing company is that a bad

network marketing company is that a bad

network marketing company is that a bad idea I kind of think um we probably need

idea I kind of think um we probably need

idea I kind of think um we probably need to say did the mum say yes or no but

to say did the mum say yes or no but

to say did the mum say yes or no but it’s kind of she believes in network

it’s kind of she believes in network

it’s kind of she believes in network marketing and she thinks as a business

marketing and she thinks as a business

marketing and she thinks as a business opportunity how could like in 30 days we

opportunity how could like in 30 days we

opportunity how could like in 30 days we test drive that and do some untried

test drive that and do some untried

test drive that and do some untried development or test drive it in terms of

development or test drive it in terms of

development or test drive it in terms of kind of research even if it’s kind of

kind of research even if it’s kind of

kind of research even if it’s kind of friends and family and then go to the

friends and family and then go to the

friends and family and then go to the mall and say you know am I trying to get

mall and say you know am I trying to get

mall and say you know am I trying to get this started and get it on the road and

this started and get it on the road and

this started and get it on the road and then kind of what you said is work with

then kind of what you said is work with

then kind of what you said is work with all these things I kind of didn’t say

all these things I kind of didn’t say

all these things I kind of didn’t say this but one of the worst things you can

this but one of the worst things you can

this but one of the worst things you can do is raise money for bc’s because I see

do is raise money for bc’s because I see

do is raise money for bc’s because I see so many companies get there and it’s

so many companies get there and it’s

so many companies get there and it’s almost like companies do an initial

almost like companies do an initial

almost like companies do an initial public offering IPO and they think it’s

public offering IPO and they think it’s

public offering IPO and they think it’s the end of the journey I tell you guys

the end of the journey I tell you guys

the end of the journey I tell you guys that’s the start of the journey and um

that’s the start of the journey and um

that’s the start of the journey and um you’ve gotta keep this is really

you’ve gotta keep this is really

you’ve gotta keep this is really important culturally culture is

important culturally culture is

important culturally culture is everything about stars and you’ve got to

everything about stars and you’ve got to

everything about stars and you’ve got to have that culture that you treat the

have that culture that you treat the

have that culture that you treat the company’s money as if it’s your own cuz

company’s money as if it’s your own cuz

company’s money as if it’s your own cuz it is so you’ve gotta be mean on

it is so you’ve gotta be mean on

it is so you’ve gotta be mean on expenses you’ve got to be fair but mean

expenses you’ve got to be fair but mean

expenses you’ve got to be fair but mean but ultimately on this question I’d say

but ultimately on this question I’d say

but ultimately on this question I’d say if your mom kind of backs the idea she

if your mom kind of backs the idea she

if your mom kind of backs the idea she believes in you and you’re passionate

believes in you and you’re passionate

believes in you and you’re passionate about it seventy or your whole life page

about it seventy or your whole life page

about it seventy or your whole life page you can got to go for it and and it

you can got to go for it and and it

you can got to go for it and and it might take two or three reps now the

might take two or three reps now the

might take two or three reps now the guys are you know profitable everybody

guys are you know profitable everybody

guys are you know profitable everybody knows about wd-40 ah what was it the

knows about wd-40 ah what was it the

knows about wd-40 ah what was it the guys back in what 1953 kicked off a

guys back in what 1953 kicked off a

guys back in what 1953 kicked off a project they they fail 40 times before

project they they fail 40 times before

project they they fail 40 times before they actually invented some sort of

they actually invented some sort of

they actually invented some sort of substance that separated water for jet

substance that separated water for jet

substance that separated water for jet engines and rockets 40 failures and now

engines and rockets 40 failures and now

engines and rockets 40 failures and now they’ve got a kind of global leader

they’ve got a kind of global leader

they’ve got a kind of global leader prime so with these sort of things is 17

prime so with these sort of things is 17

prime so with these sort of things is 17 year old you got 70 great years ahead

year old you got 70 great years ahead

year old you got 70 great years ahead here where you can be working 80 hours a

here where you can be working 80 hours a

here where you can be working 80 hours a week

week

week all your dreams building great

all your dreams building great

all your dreams building great businesses go for it yeah i mean i agree

businesses go for it yeah i mean i agree

businesses go for it yeah i mean i agree i love seeing the young entrepreneurs i

i love seeing the young entrepreneurs i

i love seeing the young entrepreneurs i love the people are looking at starting

love the people are looking at starting

love the people are looking at starting the business as their career path

the business as their career path

the business as their career path instead of starting work at a big

instead of starting work at a big

instead of starting work at a big company and then uh you know it makes it

company and then uh you know it makes it

company and then uh you know it makes it harder to then jump off and start doing

harder to then jump off and start doing

harder to then jump off and start doing business later uh you know to my last

business later uh you know to my last

business later uh you know to my last point I hate I hate raising money till

point I hate I hate raising money till

point I hate I hate raising money till I’m making money honestly I would find a

I’m making money honestly I would find a

I’m making money honestly I would find a way to hustle to make that money myself

way to hustle to make that money myself

way to hustle to make that money myself to then invest in my business I don’t

to then invest in my business I don’t

to then invest in my business I don’t know how much money you need you need a

know how much money you need you need a

know how much money you need you need a thousand dollars $5,000 $10,000 I would

thousand dollars $5,000 $10,000 I would

thousand dollars $5,000 $10,000 I would hustle my way to make that money somehow

hustle my way to make that money somehow

hustle my way to make that money somehow and put it into then launching the

and put it into then launching the

and put it into then launching the business and bet on myself um that’s

business and bet on myself um that’s

business and bet on myself um that’s maybe that’s just me I hate taking money

maybe that’s just me I hate taking money

maybe that’s just me I hate taking money till I’m making money and the other

till I’m making money and the other

till I’m making money and the other thing that i would add there is why are

thing that i would add there is why are

thing that i would add there is why are you picking network marketing um I’ve

you picking network marketing um I’ve

you picking network marketing um I’ve made a couple videos on this and it’s a

made a couple videos on this and it’s a

made a couple videos on this and it’s a little bit of a touchy subject but I

little bit of a touchy subject but I

little bit of a touchy subject but I feel a lot of people getting to know

feel a lot of people getting to know

feel a lot of people getting to know what marketing for the wrong reasons

what marketing for the wrong reasons

what marketing for the wrong reasons they’re promised huge income

they’re promised huge income

they’re promised huge income opportunities and they think they can

opportunities and they think they can

opportunities and they think they can make you rich overnight and that just

make you rich overnight and that just

make you rich overnight and that just doesn’t happen the way to have success

doesn’t happen the way to have success

doesn’t happen the way to have success is if you’re actually using a product

is if you’re actually using a product

is if you’re actually using a product you love it it’s something that you

you love it it’s something that you

you love it it’s something that you would recommend to your mom to you say

would recommend to your mom to you say

would recommend to your mom to you say mom is a fantastic product if you can’t

mom is a fantastic product if you can’t

mom is a fantastic product if you can’t do that then you should not be selling

do that then you should not be selling

do that then you should not be selling that product is you’re not going to have

that product is you’re not going to have

that product is you’re not going to have success with it and so I really

success with it and so I really

success with it and so I really encourage you to examine the business

encourage you to examine the business

encourage you to examine the business that you’re getting into are you a

that you’re getting into are you a

that you’re getting into are you a passionate a user and can you be a

passionate a user and can you be a

passionate a user and can you be a passionate advocate for it because if

passionate advocate for it because if

passionate advocate for it because if you can’t be then I would I love the

you can’t be then I would I love the

you can’t be then I would I love the idea of starting a business I would

idea of starting a business I would

idea of starting a business I would challenge you to think about what

challenge you to think about what

challenge you to think about what business you want to start it’s gotta be

business you want to start it’s gotta be

business you want to start it’s gotta be something your passion back to like the

something your passion back to like the

something your passion back to like the very top of the show where we’re talking

very top of the show where we’re talking

very top of the show where we’re talking about finding that business around your

about finding that business around your

about finding that business around your passion next Dominic Dominic is a

passion next Dominic Dominic is a

passion next Dominic Dominic is a question about explaining why customers

question about explaining why customers

question about explaining why customers should take action so he says I see that

should take action so he says I see that

should take action so he says I see that you have been talking to me do not spend

you have been talking to me do not spend

you have been talking to me do not spend a lot of time to your audience why they

a lot of time to your audience why they

a lot of time to your audience why they should start a business is that the

should start a business is that the

should start a business is that the right thing to do hmm educational how

right thing to do hmm educational how

right thing to do hmm educational how much education you guys do see you in at

much education you guys do see you in at

much education you guys do see you in at sage um we never good enough but I’d say

sage um we never good enough but I’d say

sage um we never good enough but I’d say if the question is should a sub

if the question is should a sub

if the question is should a sub just to what you said I think the

just to what you said I think the

just to what you said I think the freedom it gives you I think the

freedom it gives you I think the

freedom it gives you I think the learning you get by starting the

learning you get by starting the

learning you get by starting the business making a ton of mistakes

business making a ton of mistakes

business making a ton of mistakes falling flat on your face dust yourself

falling flat on your face dust yourself

falling flat on your face dust yourself off and you know constantly innovating

off and you know constantly innovating

off and you know constantly innovating your products and services is the

your products and services is the

your products and services is the University of life it’s the best place

University of life it’s the best place

University of life it’s the best place to learn I think you know when I look at

to learn I think you know when I look at

to learn I think you know when I look at the US economy about 12 million jobs

the US economy about 12 million jobs

the US economy about 12 million jobs created down in the u.s. in the last

created down in the u.s. in the last

created down in the u.s. in the last five years sixty-six percent have been

five years sixty-six percent have been

five years sixty-six percent have been created by small and medium businesses

created by small and medium businesses

created by small and medium businesses the value that small immediate business

the value that small immediate business

the value that small immediate business in Canada us over Europe greatly

in Canada us over Europe greatly

in Canada us over Europe greatly economies and prosperity way off the

economies and prosperity way off the

economies and prosperity way off the scale and the truth is the voice they

scale and the truth is the voice they

scale and the truth is the voice they have in terms of governments of people

have in terms of governments of people

have in terms of governments of people is tiny but it’s really guys who give up

is tiny but it’s really guys who give up

is tiny but it’s really guys who give up their lines a lot of human sacrifice a

their lines a lot of human sacrifice a

their lines a lot of human sacrifice a lot of hours worked a life savings got

lot of hours worked a life savings got

lot of hours worked a life savings got into it but the rewards are huge because

into it but the rewards are huge because

into it but the rewards are huge because you built something yourself that’s very

you built something yourself that’s very

you built something yourself that’s very special you’re doing what you love

special you’re doing what you love

special you’re doing what you love you’re doing what you’re passionate

you’re doing what you’re passionate

you’re doing what you’re passionate about and I just think it’s for a career

about and I just think it’s for a career

about and I just think it’s for a career point of view it’s probably most

point of view it’s probably most

point of view it’s probably most fulfilling thing you can do so I’ll be a

fulfilling thing you can do so I’ll be a

fulfilling thing you can do so I’ll be a huge supporter like Evan said on the

huge supporter like Evan said on the

huge supporter like Evan said on the last question we love the young kids

last question we love the young kids

last question we love the young kids coming out of like a college or at

coming out of like a college or at

coming out of like a college or at straight out of school and starting

straight out of school and starting

straight out of school and starting their businesses because you guys the

their businesses because you guys the

their businesses because you guys the future yeah it’s interesting so I don’t

future yeah it’s interesting so I don’t

future yeah it’s interesting so I don’t talk a lot about uh why you should start

talk a lot about uh why you should start

talk a lot about uh why you should start a business I think it’s just

a business I think it’s just

a business I think it’s just understanding who your audiences I am

understanding who your audiences I am

understanding who your audiences I am not trying to convert people to be

not trying to convert people to be

not trying to convert people to be entrepreneurs that’s not my audience my

entrepreneurs that’s not my audience my

entrepreneurs that’s not my audience my arms are the people who already are

arms are the people who already are

arms are the people who already are entrepreneurs or want to be

entrepreneurs or want to be

entrepreneurs or want to be entrepreneurs and need advice to get

entrepreneurs and need advice to get

entrepreneurs and need advice to get better so that’s where my content is

better so that’s where my content is

better so that’s where my content is geared towards right we haven’t talked

geared towards right we haven’t talked

geared towards right we haven’t talked about in this video why you should start

about in this video why you should start

about in this video why you should start a business versus working at a company

a business versus working at a company

a business versus working at a company so I think it’s just understanding

so I think it’s just understanding

so I think it’s just understanding education is definitely important and my

education is definitely important and my

education is definitely important and my channel there’s a lot of education on

channel there’s a lot of education on

channel there’s a lot of education on and that’s why we’re doing this video

and that’s why we’re doing this video

and that’s why we’re doing this video series even today to help answer your

series even today to help answer your

series even today to help answer your questions and teach you guys but it’s

questions and teach you guys but it’s

questions and teach you guys but it’s understanding who your target audiences

understanding who your target audiences

understanding who your target audiences and what hurdles they have so I don’t

and what hurdles they have so I don’t

and what hurdles they have so I don’t consider the guys for working at big

consider the guys for working at big

consider the guys for working at big companies to who are happy with their

companies to who are happy with their

companies to who are happy with their jobs to be my audience

jobs to be my audience

jobs to be my audience from my role to be the convince them to

from my role to be the convince them to

from my role to be the convince them to leave so that’s why I don’t talk too

leave so that’s why I don’t talk too

leave so that’s why I don’t talk too much about it um so just understanding

much about it um so just understanding

much about it um so just understanding your audience and making content and

your audience and making content and

your audience and making content and making products and services that are

making products and services that are

making products and services that are here best towards them yeah it is

here best towards them yeah it is

here best towards them yeah it is obvious but thump happens totally

obvious but thump happens totally

obvious but thump happens totally counterintuitive though some of the best

counterintuitive though some of the best

counterintuitive though some of the best businesses have been created when is the

businesses have been created when is the

businesses have been created when is the big economic downturn I’m back to two

big economic downturn I’m back to two

big economic downturn I’m back to two thousand nine because and it’s kind of

thousand nine because and it’s kind of

thousand nine because and it’s kind of logical when you thought it through a

logical when you thought it through a

logical when you thought it through a lot of you know the reduction forces

lot of you know the reduction forces

lot of you know the reduction forces when country companies laid off a lot of

when country companies laid off a lot of

when country companies laid off a lot of people and gave them pay off some of

people and gave them pay off some of

people and gave them pay off some of those people use their payoffs to go and

those people use their payoffs to go and

those people use their payoffs to go and start a business follow their dreams so

start a business follow their dreams so

start a business follow their dreams so that was a really kind of top edge of

that was a really kind of top edge of

that was a really kind of top edge of new business size many of those people

new business size many of those people

new business size many of those people who felt they’re trapped in a big

who felt they’re trapped in a big

who felt they’re trapped in a big company within 20 years and almost

company within 20 years and almost

company within 20 years and almost ironically got massive release when they

ironically got massive release when they

ironically got massive release when they were laid off and that’s unleash their

were laid off and that’s unleash their

were laid off and that’s unleash their passions and that’s all in a dream but I

passions and that’s all in a dream but I

passions and that’s all in a dream but I think again I think now there’s so much

think again I think now there’s so much

think again I think now there’s so much evidence across the world where startups

evidence across the world where startups

evidence across the world where startups business is absolutely kind of a very

business is absolutely kind of a very

business is absolutely kind of a very accepted way of going about your career

accepted way of going about your career

accepted way of going about your career and and should be valued much more wider

and and should be valued much more wider

and and should be valued much more wider community honestly especially when you

community honestly especially when you

community honestly especially when you look at you can around in Canada rural

look at you can around in Canada rural

look at you can around in Canada rural communities if it wasn’t for the smaller

communities if it wasn’t for the smaller

communities if it wasn’t for the smaller medium businesses then we ditched you

medium businesses then we ditched you

medium businesses then we ditched you know kind of once you get a big pharma

know kind of once you get a big pharma

know kind of once you get a big pharma succeeds the guys that cradle the

succeeds the guys that cradle the

succeeds the guys that cradle the prosperity de Prentice jobs this is

prosperity de Prentice jobs this is

prosperity de Prentice jobs this is more media businesses respect I told you

more media businesses respect I told you

more media businesses respect I told you who is passionate entrepreneurs I love a

who is passionate entrepreneurs I love a

who is passionate entrepreneurs I love a man sues meet oh I’m deeply passionate

man sues meet oh I’m deeply passionate

man sues meet oh I’m deeply passionate about Latin dancing salsa and bachata

about Latin dancing salsa and bachata

about Latin dancing salsa and bachata but I don’t know how to turn this

but I don’t know how to turn this

but I don’t know how to turn this passion into a lucrative business

passion into a lucrative business

passion into a lucrative business without entering an already overcrowded

without entering an already overcrowded

without entering an already overcrowded market of dane schools I’ll tell you

market of dane schools I’ll tell you

market of dane schools I’ll tell you that’s a great question so I think the

that’s a great question so I think the

that’s a great question so I think the reality is that’s a really hot area so

reality is that’s a really hot area so

reality is that’s a really hot area so you got to think about what is it you

you got to think about what is it you

you got to think about what is it you want was different from what’s being

want was different from what’s being

want was different from what’s being provided uh

provided uh

provided uh when I look at you know this great

when I look at you know this great

when I look at you know this great compass now huge companies startup

compass now huge companies startup

compass now huge companies startup company there was a market technology

company there was a market technology

company there was a market technology called CRM there was a company called

called CRM there was a company called

called CRM there was a company called Siebel it was a very saturated market

Siebel it was a very saturated market

Siebel it was a very saturated market place and this guy Marc Benioff a

place and this guy Marc Benioff a

place and this guy Marc Benioff a garbage huge admiration for stud that

garbage huge admiration for stud that

garbage huge admiration for stud that come people salesforce com and you would

come people salesforce com and you would

come people salesforce com and you would have argued at that time that is a

have argued at that time that is a

have argued at that time that is a totally crazy idea because it’s a

totally crazy idea because it’s a

totally crazy idea because it’s a saturated market place and he basically

saturated market place and he basically

saturated market place and he basically completely reimagined the space so what

completely reimagined the space so what

completely reimagined the space so what it means again back to landing dancing

it means again back to landing dancing

it means again back to landing dancing is there a way you could provide

is there a way you could provide

is there a way you could provide learning dancing that’s different that

learning dancing that’s different that

learning dancing that’s different that really meets the needs wherever you are

really meets the needs wherever you are

really meets the needs wherever you are the town you’re in or are there other

the town you’re in or are there other

the town you’re in or are there other things that you can build in terms of

things that you can build in terms of

things that you can build in terms of value that people really won because

value that people really won because

value that people really won because again you know again things like

again you know again things like

again you know again things like learning darn and salsa dancing it is a

learning darn and salsa dancing it is a

learning darn and salsa dancing it is a really hot area there’s no doubt this

really hot area there’s no doubt this

really hot area there’s no doubt this demand out um it’s a great way you can

demand out um it’s a great way you can

demand out um it’s a great way you can build communities but I think with those

build communities but I think with those

build communities but I think with those sort of things you’ve gotta build value

sort of things you’ve gotta build value

sort of things you’ve gotta build value and you’ve got to build something it’s a

and you’ve got to build something it’s a

and you’ve got to build something it’s a little bit different and constantly

little bit different and constantly

little bit different and constantly innovate as well because as soon as you

innovate as well because as soon as you

innovate as well because as soon as you come out with something that’s really

come out with something that’s really

come out with something that’s really innovative you can guarantee someone in

innovative you can guarantee someone in

innovative you can guarantee someone in that sort of space can catch up really

that sort of space can catch up really

that sort of space can catch up really quickly so you’ve got to be constantly

quickly so you’ve got to be constantly

quickly so you’ve got to be constantly offering more innovation and one of

offering more innovation and one of

offering more innovation and one of their kind of dance class or

their kind of dance class or

their kind of dance class or collaborations with local restaurants or

collaborations with local restaurants or

collaborations with local restaurants or stuff like that which is a kind of bit

stuff like that which is a kind of bit

stuff like that which is a kind of bit different this question his kind of

different this question his kind of

different this question his kind of close to home because I’m a salsa dancer

close to home because I’m a salsa dancer

close to home because I’m a salsa dancer and I’m a investor in I think North

and I’m a investor in I think North

and I’m a investor in I think North America’s largest maybe the world’s

America’s largest maybe the world’s

America’s largest maybe the world’s largest salsa dancing school trained

largest salsa dancing school trained

largest salsa dancing school trained five six thousand people a year how to

five six thousand people a year how to

five six thousand people a year how to dance salsa so i can i can speak with

dance salsa so i can i can speak with

dance salsa so i can i can speak with some Authority on this one at least the

some Authority on this one at least the

some Authority on this one at least the first thing that comes to mind is

first thing that comes to mind is

first thing that comes to mind is understanding why people come to dance

understanding why people come to dance

understanding why people come to dance classes people are not coming to dance

classes people are not coming to dance

classes people are not coming to dance classes to be the greatest salsa dancer

classes to be the greatest salsa dancer

classes to be the greatest salsa dancer bachata dancer right your competition is

bachata dancer right your competition is

bachata dancer right your competition is not the other dance schools it’s rock

not the other dance schools it’s rock

not the other dance schools it’s rock climbing it’s going out for the movies

climbing it’s going out for the movies

climbing it’s going out for the movies right your competition is the

right your competition is the

right your competition is the entertainment dollar and so why we’re

entertainment dollar and so why we’re

entertainment dollar and so why we’re successful where most of the companies

successful where most of the companies

successful where most of the companies aren’t is that we focus on letting them

aren’t is that we focus on letting them

aren’t is that we focus on letting them have fun it so it’s not about making it

have fun it so it’s not about making it

have fun it so it’s not about making it the perfect technique

the perfect technique

the perfect technique people don’t come into most of our

people don’t come into most of our

people don’t come into most of our classes trying to become again a

classes trying to become again a

classes trying to become again a performer the greatest dance in the

performer the greatest dance in the

performer the greatest dance in the world they just want to have fun and so

world they just want to have fun and so

world they just want to have fun and so understanding that that’s what your

understanding that that’s what your

understanding that that’s what your audience is looking for adjust your

audience is looking for adjust your

audience is looking for adjust your mindset to be able to create a product

mindset to be able to create a product

mindset to be able to create a product that they could use those a simple

that they could use those a simple

that they could use those a simple example speaking like directly to you we

example speaking like directly to you we

example speaking like directly to you we start with merengue merengue is a much

start with merengue merengue is a much

start with merengue merengue is a much easier dance to learned in salsa sauce

easier dance to learned in salsa sauce

easier dance to learned in salsa sauce as eat beets is the harder to pick up it

as eat beets is the harder to pick up it

as eat beets is the harder to pick up it can be frustrating at the start merengue

can be frustrating at the start merengue

can be frustrating at the start merengue is two beats you don’t have to worry

is two beats you don’t have to worry

is two beats you don’t have to worry about your feet all you’re doing is arms

about your feet all you’re doing is arms

about your feet all you’re doing is arms and so it’s a lot easier to pick up and

and so it’s a lot easier to pick up and

and so it’s a lot easier to pick up and so it’s the cane people come to that

so it’s the cane people come to that

so it’s the cane people come to that first class or having fun it builds them

first class or having fun it builds them

first class or having fun it builds them up it gives them confidence then keep

up it gives them confidence then keep

up it gives them confidence then keep going and so I find a lot of the people

going and so I find a lot of the people

going and so I find a lot of the people in the salsa community or so focused on

in the salsa community or so focused on

in the salsa community or so focused on the technique and they’re all competing

the technique and they’re all competing

the technique and they’re all competing for the more advanced students where you

for the more advanced students where you

for the more advanced students where you can focus on the having fun part then it

can focus on the having fun part then it

can focus on the having fun part then it opens up a much wider audience for you I

opens up a much wider audience for you I

opens up a much wider audience for you I am just a crazy nails down and into the

am just a crazy nails down and into the

am just a crazy nails down and into the last week in Tuscany and that’s your boy

last week in Tuscany and that’s your boy

last week in Tuscany and that’s your boy gelato ice cream in this town in Tuscany

gelato ice cream in this town in Tuscany

gelato ice cream in this town in Tuscany tons of gelato one chill artist all had

tons of gelato one chill artist all had

tons of gelato one chill artist all had choose lines down the road because the

choose lines down the road because the

choose lines down the road because the guys service guys and girls was singing

guys service guys and girls was singing

guys service guys and girls was singing singing Italian songs crazy let’s loving

singing Italian songs crazy let’s loving

singing Italian songs crazy let’s loving people were actually gathering crowd

people were actually gathering crowd

people were actually gathering crowd roaring and that place was yet one of

roaring and that place was yet one of

roaring and that place was yet one of probably 20 ice cream stores in the town

probably 20 ice cream stores in the town

probably 20 ice cream stores in the town but it was rocket it was rocking this

but it was rocket it was rocking this

but it was rocket it was rocking this people what having fun people wanted to

people what having fun people wanted to

people what having fun people wanted to do it is something I love it um yeah

do it is something I love it um yeah

do it is something I love it um yeah awesome example next up see sorry sent

awesome example next up see sorry sent

awesome example next up see sorry sent city we’re a new business using sage pay

city we’re a new business using sage pay

city we’re a new business using sage pay for our e-commerce website we think that

for our e-commerce website we think that

for our e-commerce website we think that payers you use feature is vital for

payers you use feature is vital for

payers you use feature is vital for small business what new things do you

small business what new things do you

small business what new things do you have in store to support small

have in store to support small

have in store to support small businesses so that that’s all you Steven

businesses so that that’s all you Steven

businesses so that that’s all you Steven what’s in store to support small

what’s in store to support small

what’s in store to support small businesses there’s a lot of stuff on

businesses there’s a lot of stuff on

businesses there’s a lot of stuff on safe and the other thing my email

safe and the other thing my email

safe and the other thing my email address is Stephen Kelly at save com so

address is Stephen Kelly at save com so

address is Stephen Kelly at save com so any kind of things any of our customers

any kind of things any of our customers

any kind of things any of our customers have you know we are totally accountable

have you know we are totally accountable

have you know we are totally accountable to you through service will lead and you

to you through service will lead and you

to you through service will lead and you can reach out of me if any time we drop

can reach out of me if any time we drop

can reach out of me if any time we drop it off as any kind of company does

it off as any kind of company does

it off as any kind of company does though the aspiration is that you guys

though the aspiration is that you guys

though the aspiration is that you guys to like it and have you kind of as great

to like it and have you kind of as great

to like it and have you kind of as great that so that’s really important to us vs

that so that’s really important to us vs

that so that’s really important to us vs essence elicited loads of great

essence elicited loads of great

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properties is coming out on the safety

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pay site the other thing is kind of really interesting is we find a lot of

really interesting is we find a lot of

really interesting is we find a lot of small and medium businesses all I kind

small and medium businesses all I kind

small and medium businesses all I kind of actually have totally integrated

of actually have totally integrated

of actually have totally integrated management of their money a cash

management of their money a cash

management of their money a cash invoicing cash collection plans plans

invoicing cash collection plans plans

invoicing cash collection plans plans all these sort of things management

all these sort of things management

all these sort of things management expenses and income so we’re seeing a

expenses and income so we’re seeing a

expenses and income so we’re seeing a lot of interest in the marketplace where

lot of interest in the marketplace where

lot of interest in the marketplace where you got kind of safe pay on the payroll

you got kind of safe pay on the payroll

you got kind of safe pay on the payroll looking after employees say two payments

looking after employees say two payments

looking after employees say two payments which is managing cash in and out and

which is managing cash in and out and

which is managing cash in and out and also the kind of Korra County and

also the kind of Korra County and

also the kind of Korra County and obviously there what when I going to see

obviously there what when I going to see

obviously there what when I going to see customers who have got they’ve got a

customers who have got they’ve got a

customers who have got they’ve got a website safe fashion they take on

website safe fashion they take on

website safe fashion they take on transactions over the web with people’s

transactions over the web with people’s

transactions over the web with people’s credit cards and it automatically does

credit cards and it automatically does

credit cards and it automatically does all to stop reordering it automatically

all to stop reordering it automatically

all to stop reordering it automatically updates all the ledges you know it’s

updates all the ledges you know it’s

updates all the ledges you know it’s totally what we call kind of freshness

totally what we call kind of freshness

totally what we call kind of freshness accounting where it’s fully automated

accounting where it’s fully automated

accounting where it’s fully automated because again what we don’t want to do I

because again what we don’t want to do I

because again what we don’t want to do I get one in five small businesses work

get one in five small businesses work

get one in five small businesses work more than send the out of me what we

more than send the out of me what we

more than send the out of me what we want to do for you guys is give your

want to do for you guys is give your

want to do for you guys is give your time back spend with your families or

time back spend with your families or

time back spend with your families or grey business is faster and and just do

grey business is faster and and just do

grey business is faster and and just do a lot of less of manual car note or data

a lot of less of manual car note or data

a lot of less of manual car note or data resubmitting or taking the shoebox of

resubmitting or taking the shoebox of

resubmitting or taking the shoebox of invoices to your accountant that is kind

invoices to your accountant that is kind

invoices to your accountant that is kind of so 1990s the world of today is all

of so 1990s the world of today is all

of so 1990s the world of today is all about automation running the business

about automation running the business

about automation running the business from your palm of a hand from your

from your palm of a hand from your

from your palm of a hand from your smartphone having your business in your

smartphone having your business in your

smartphone having your business in your pocket and you know 24 by 7 so you can

pocket and you know 24 by 7 so you can

pocket and you know 24 by 7 so you can look at cash please you look at invoice

look at cash please you look at invoice

look at cash please you look at invoice cells then you can look if you want on

cells then you can look if you want on

cells then you can look if you want on cash flow everything should be kind of

cash flow everything should be kind of

cash flow everything should be kind of automated in the Pawnee Annika’s again I

automated in the Pawnee Annika’s again I

automated in the Pawnee Annika’s again I think Evan as consumers in the last 10

think Evan as consumers in the last 10

think Evan as consumers in the last 10 years with Samsung’s an iphone we’ve got

years with Samsung’s an iphone we’ve got

years with Samsung’s an iphone we’ve got used to controlling our own personal

used to controlling our own personal

used to controlling our own personal life and we believe the smaller

life and we believe the smaller

life and we believe the smaller businesses coming it’s like I should do

businesses coming it’s like I should do

businesses coming it’s like I should do exactly the same as companies like Apple

exactly the same as companies like Apple

exactly the same as companies like Apple have done for consumers so as to give

have done for consumers so as to give

have done for consumers so as to give you guys control in the pamir hands so

you guys control in the pamir hands so

you guys control in the pamir hands so which is facing only specific product

which is facing only specific product

which is facing only specific product questions you can email me I’ll be in

questions you can email me I’ll be in

questions you can email me I’ll be in touch of the right people but kind of

touch of the right people but kind of

touch of the right people but kind of that golden triangle

that golden triangle

that golden triangle money around from penny people payroll

money around from penny people payroll

money around from penny people payroll payments collecting cash from customers

payments collecting cash from customers

payments collecting cash from customers and she updating all your accounts and

and she updating all your accounts and

and she updating all your accounts and IRS returns and alerts and stuff is the

IRS returns and alerts and stuff is the

IRS returns and alerts and stuff is the way to go yeah i mean i’d say in general

way to go yeah i mean i’d say in general

way to go yeah i mean i’d say in general to as entrepreneurs you should be

to as entrepreneurs you should be

to as entrepreneurs you should be looking at trying to free up your time

looking at trying to free up your time

looking at trying to free up your time to do the things that you’re best at you

to do the things that you’re best at you

to do the things that you’re best at you know most entrepreneurs you’re doing

know most entrepreneurs you’re doing

know most entrepreneurs you’re doing everything in your business you’re

everything in your business you’re

everything in your business you’re you’re the janitor up to the CEO and

you’re the janitor up to the CEO and

you’re the janitor up to the CEO and you’re not going to be able to create

you’re not going to be able to create

you’re not going to be able to create something great if you only spend in ten

something great if you only spend in ten

something great if you only spend in ten percent of your time focused on the

percent of your time focused on the

percent of your time focused on the projects that will make you great and so

projects that will make you great and so

projects that will make you great and so you know so what I try to think of what

you know so what I try to think of what

you know so what I try to think of what every day is what is the highest value

every day is what is the highest value

every day is what is the highest value that I could bring to my company today

that I could bring to my company today

that I could bring to my company today and then the other tasks have to get

and then the other tasks have to get

and then the other tasks have to get done in my business I look to automate

done in my business I look to automate

done in my business I look to automate through software like sage I look to

through software like sage I look to

through software like sage I look to delegate I look to even eliminate if

delegate I look to even eliminate if

delegate I look to even eliminate if it’s not relevant anymore and ideally if

it’s not relevant anymore and ideally if

it’s not relevant anymore and ideally if you’re managing your time you want to

you’re managing your time you want to

you’re managing your time you want to try to figure out again how can i free

try to figure out again how can i free

try to figure out again how can i free up with the distractions free up the

up with the distractions free up the

up with the distractions free up the stuff that I don’t like doing to let me

stuff that I don’t like doing to let me

stuff that I don’t like doing to let me focus on doing what I love that makes me

focus on doing what I love that makes me

focus on doing what I love that makes me come alive that adds insane value to my

come alive that adds insane value to my

come alive that adds insane value to my business I the follow-up question there

business I the follow-up question there

business I the follow-up question there was we turned our passion into something

was we turned our passion into something

was we turned our passion into something quite special and looking forward on how

quite special and looking forward on how

quite special and looking forward on how the digital online marketing will unfold

the digital online marketing will unfold

the digital online marketing will unfold you have any thoughts on this digital

you have any thoughts on this digital

you have any thoughts on this digital online marketing yeah and I just think

online marketing yeah and I just think

online marketing yeah and I just think sorry one of the most exciting things

sorry one of the most exciting things

sorry one of the most exciting things happen I I just think we’re so

happen I I just think we’re so

happen I I just think we’re so privileged to see what’s happening

privileged to see what’s happening

privileged to see what’s happening through the whole kind of web experience

through the whole kind of web experience

through the whole kind of web experience the old did you work on um you know I’m

the old did you work on um you know I’m

the old did you work on um you know I’m pretty straight line I am pretty crazy I

pretty straight line I am pretty crazy I

pretty straight line I am pretty crazy I like to kind of dream dream big but I

like to kind of dream dream big but I

like to kind of dream dream big but I kind of recognize a lot of small

kind of recognize a lot of small

kind of recognize a lot of small business out there also what a great

business out there also what a great

business out there also what a great lifestyle manage no family I’m fanta and

lifestyle manage no family I’m fanta and

lifestyle manage no family I’m fanta and we encourage all that but the digital

we encourage all that but the digital

we encourage all that but the digital marketing just makes everything so much

marketing just makes everything so much

marketing just makes everything so much easier and back to Evans point is is you

easier and back to Evans point is is you

easier and back to Evans point is is you are typically part of a big community

are typically part of a big community

are typically part of a big community now and it is a paradigm if you’re in

now and it is a paradigm if you’re in

now and it is a paradigm if you’re in the state of the US 30 years ago you

the state of the US 30 years ago you

the state of the US 30 years ago you typically sell night i’m sending product

typically sell night i’m sending product

typically sell night i’m sending product within a 30-mile radius now you lift

within a 30-mile radius now you lift

within a 30-mile radius now you lift your eyes up and into a global village

your eyes up and into a global village

your eyes up and into a global village and

and

and the web you could be selling countries

the web you could be selling countries

the web you could be selling countries within two to three months of just angry

within two to three months of just angry

within two to three months of just angry so um the barriers have completely been

so um the barriers have completely been

so um the barriers have completely been smashed and digital marketing you can

smashed and digital marketing you can

smashed and digital marketing you can really intelligently now I think

really intelligently now I think

really intelligently now I think segments and all the stuff like SEO

segments and all the stuff like SEO

segments and all the stuff like SEO optimization sem we get smaller and

optimization sem we get smaller and

optimization sem we get smaller and smaller to create a great dish with pros

smaller to create a great dish with pros

smaller to create a great dish with pros itself and again you know everything’s

itself and again you know everything’s

itself and again you know everything’s going to be authentic everything is

going to be authentic everything is

going to be authentic everything is going to have high integrity so your

going to have high integrity so your

going to have high integrity so your digital presence has got to reflect the

digital presence has got to reflect the

digital presence has got to reflect the company you are the service you deliver

company you are the service you deliver

company you are the service you deliver your love for customers but I think um

your love for customers but I think um

your love for customers but I think um you know I think definitely I would say

you know I think definitely I would say

you know I think definitely I would say all CEOs out there all man integrates

all CEOs out there all man integrates

all CEOs out there all man integrates the businesses I’d say kind of think for

the businesses I’d say kind of think for

the businesses I’d say kind of think for us get social be socially so to be out

us get social be socially so to be out

us get social be socially so to be out there be visible all feedback is good

there be visible all feedback is good

there be visible all feedback is good feedback on Twitter Facebook the sort of

feedback on Twitter Facebook the sort of

feedback on Twitter Facebook the sort of channels out because it’s just an

channels out because it’s just an

channels out because it’s just an invaluable way to listen I can’t ten

invaluable way to listen I can’t ten

invaluable way to listen I can’t ten hours to the marketplace and see what’s

hours to the marketplace and see what’s

hours to the marketplace and see what’s going on and the phpbb and you get is

going on and the phpbb and you get is

going on and the phpbb and you get is immense so i think is invaluable in

immense so i think is invaluable in

immense so i think is invaluable in digital marketing has lifted my eyes to

digital marketing has lifted my eyes to

digital marketing has lifted my eyes to stuff that blows me away this stuff that

stuff that blows me away this stuff that

stuff that blows me away this stuff that used to play two years can be done in

used to play two years can be done in

used to play two years can be done in two weeks now and camp at the old world

two weeks now and camp at the old world

two weeks now and camp at the old world of campaigns of Arctic you know has been

of campaigns of Arctic you know has been

of campaigns of Arctic you know has been so disrupted ah it’s really exciting

so disrupted ah it’s really exciting

so disrupted ah it’s really exciting times and actually the other thing I’d

times and actually the other thing I’d

times and actually the other thing I’d say is don’t just kind of think of it as

say is don’t just kind of think of it as

say is don’t just kind of think of it as a silo of digital marketing but think of

a silo of digital marketing but think of

a silo of digital marketing but think of it digital integrated marketing selling

it digital integrated marketing selling

it digital integrated marketing selling services so you’re taking customers for

services so you’re taking customers for

services so you’re taking customers for a whole life cycle firstly kind of hit

a whole life cycle firstly kind of hit

a whole life cycle firstly kind of hit your website may be trying to product by

your website may be trying to product by

your website may be trying to product by product and then giving great customer

product and then giving great customer

product and then giving great customer experience afterwards so make it a

experience afterwards so make it a

experience afterwards so make it a journey for the customer where it’s

journey for the customer where it’s

journey for the customer where it’s going to be a customer for life I love

going to be a customer for life I love

going to be a customer for life I love it and for those of you guys watching

it and for those of you guys watching

it and for those of you guys watching Stephen is he eats his own dog food he

Stephen is he eats his own dog food he

Stephen is he eats his own dog food he is active on social in a way that most

is active on social in a way that most

is active on social in a way that most CEOs aren’t you’ll see mostly eels just

CEOs aren’t you’ll see mostly eels just

CEOs aren’t you’ll see mostly eels just post press releases and super boring

post press releases and super boring

post press releases and super boring stuff where Stephen actually has some

stuff where Stephen actually has some

stuff where Stephen actually has some interesting content you know because he

interesting content you know because he

interesting content you know because he actually cares about entrepreneurs

actually cares about entrepreneurs

actually cares about entrepreneurs imagine that so we’re following on

imagine that so we’re following on

imagine that so we’re following on Twitter to answer the question I would

Twitter to answer the question I would

Twitter to answer the question I would say

say

say it’s never been easier to start a

it’s never been easier to start a

it’s never been easier to start a business and to market it the tools have

business and to market it the tools have

business and to market it the tools have never been cheaper right you don’t have

never been cheaper right you don’t have

never been cheaper right you don’t have to take out TV commercials and radio

to take out TV commercials and radio

to take out TV commercials and radio spots a newspaper ads you can get

spots a newspaper ads you can get

spots a newspaper ads you can get started on youtube on facebook on

started on youtube on facebook on

started on youtube on facebook on Twitter and start driving some attention

Twitter and start driving some attention

Twitter and start driving some attention for your company I think I think it can

for your company I think I think it can

for your company I think I think it can be overwhelming at the start I think a

be overwhelming at the start I think a

be overwhelming at the start I think a lot of times people don’t know what to

lot of times people don’t know what to

lot of times people don’t know what to do they’re so focused on building their

do they’re so focused on building their

do they’re so focused on building their product or service and trying to create

product or service and trying to create

product or service and trying to create an amazing experience and offering that

an amazing experience and offering that

an amazing experience and offering that marketing becomes his side things

marketing becomes his side things

marketing becomes his side things they’re not sure how to go out and

they’re not sure how to go out and

they’re not sure how to go out and promote themselves and so everybody has

promote themselves and so everybody has

promote themselves and so everybody has these accounts but they don’t do

these accounts but they don’t do

these accounts but they don’t do anything valuable with them what I would

anything valuable with them what I would

anything valuable with them what I would honestly recommend you doing is picking

honestly recommend you doing is picking

honestly recommend you doing is picking the one that best feels right to you and

the one that best feels right to you and

the one that best feels right to you and starting with that for me it’s You Tube

starting with that for me it’s You Tube

starting with that for me it’s You Tube I love you too bye love video I’m a

I love you too bye love video I’m a

I love you too bye love video I’m a visual learner I like being on camera I

visual learner I like being on camera I

visual learner I like being on camera I love watching videos and so it allows me

love watching videos and so it allows me

love watching videos and so it allows me to excel in a way that I might not excel

to excel in a way that I might not excel

to excel in a way that I might not excel in other platforms and so it be figuring

in other platforms and so it be figuring

in other platforms and so it be figuring out like being on camera do you like

out like being on camera do you like

out like being on camera do you like writing do you like long-form you like

writing do you like long-form you like

writing do you like long-form you like short from do you like graphic design

short from do you like graphic design

short from do you like graphic design and making pictures and whatever you

and making pictures and whatever you

and making pictures and whatever you enjoy the most pick the social media

enjoy the most pick the social media

enjoy the most pick the social media platform that best fits your passions

platform that best fits your passions

platform that best fits your passions and you’ll have a lot more success and

and you’ll have a lot more success and

and you’ll have a lot more success and that’s that’s the place to start and

that’s that’s the place to start and

that’s that’s the place to start and then you can branch out to the other the

then you can branch out to the other the

then you can branch out to the other the other categories on top of that i would

other categories on top of that i would

other categories on top of that i would i would prove to yourself to make it

i would prove to yourself to make it

i would prove to yourself to make it work a lot of people go hardcore and

work a lot of people go hardcore and

work a lot of people go hardcore and they say hey you got to get on youtube

they say hey you got to get on youtube

they say hey you got to get on youtube when so they’ll go crazy for a month and

when so they’ll go crazy for a month and

when so they’ll go crazy for a month and they’ll post 10 videos they all didn’t

they’ll post 10 videos they all didn’t

they’ll post 10 videos they all didn’t get any results and so they quit and

get any results and so they quit and

get any results and so they quit and where i would rather you start slowly

where i would rather you start slowly

where i would rather you start slowly get the account keep the name to

get the account keep the name to

get the account keep the name to yourself that nobody can squat on it

yourself that nobody can squat on it

yourself that nobody can squat on it just listen use your ears to start you

just listen use your ears to start you

just listen use your ears to start you know people are tagging you then at

know people are tagging you then at

know people are tagging you then at least respond because those are

least respond because those are

least respond because those are potential champions for you people give

potential champions for you people give

potential champions for you people give me negative feedback that’s learnings

me negative feedback that’s learnings

me negative feedback that’s learnings for you to put back into your company

for you to put back into your company

for you to put back into your company and then slowly start posting content

and then slowly start posting content

and then slowly start posting content and every step along the way you’ve

and every step along the way you’ve

and every step along the way you’ve proven to yourself that this is a

proven to yourself that this is a

proven to yourself that this is a worthwhile time investment his time is

worthwhile time investment his time is

worthwhile time investment his time is your most valuable asset right sage

your most valuable asset right sage

your most valuable asset right sage might be freeing up some of that time

might be freeing up some of that time

might be freeing up some of that time because of their software you know now

because of their software you know now

because of their software you know now you gotta make sure you’re using it

you gotta make sure you’re using it

you gotta make sure you’re using it wisely and you can easily waste days

wisely and you can easily waste days

wisely and you can easily waste days just you’re on social media so you want

just you’re on social media so you want

just you’re on social media so you want to make sure that every step along the

to make sure that every step along the

to make sure that every step along the way you’ve proven you

way you’ve proven you

way you’ve proven you stop that that’s working and adding

stop that that’s working and adding

stop that that’s working and adding value to you is one a couple of things

value to you is one a couple of things

value to you is one a couple of things that you it’s amazing now I think

that you it’s amazing now I think

that you it’s amazing now I think there’s only seven chief executives

there’s only seven chief executives

there’s only seven chief executives likely will disperse 100 companies which

likely will disperse 100 companies which

likely will disperse 100 companies which is the large scope is new UK qureshi on

is the large scope is new UK qureshi on

is the large scope is new UK qureshi on social media things angry I guarantee in

social media things angry I guarantee in

social media things angry I guarantee in five years time will be eighty percent

five years time will be eighty percent

five years time will be eighty percent it’s just you know a lot of people are

it’s just you know a lot of people are

it’s just you know a lot of people are behind the curve everybody I think with

behind the curve everybody I think with

behind the curve everybody I think with what I leapfrog and get to the future

what I leapfrog and get to the future

what I leapfrog and get to the future and they should be doing that now the

and they should be doing that now the

and they should be doing that now the other thing I’d say is to your point is

other thing I’d say is to your point is

other thing I’d say is to your point is really important i think these areas on

really important i think these areas on

really important i think these areas on digital option sometimes be pretty scary

digital option sometimes be pretty scary

digital option sometimes be pretty scary but you know reality is outside do it

but you know reality is outside do it

but you know reality is outside do it yourself some small exactly you said I’m

yourself some small exactly you said I’m

yourself some small exactly you said I’m youtube and and build your social

youtube and and build your social

youtube and and build your social presence and then you get a kind of

presence and then you get a kind of

presence and then you get a kind of momentum and you build a community and

momentum and you build a community and

momentum and you build a community and you get kind of rolling thunder um the

you get kind of rolling thunder um the

you get kind of rolling thunder um the other thing I’d say is if you really

other thing I’d say is if you really

other thing I’d say is if you really kind of feel exposed you have to get off

kind of feel exposed you have to get off

kind of feel exposed you have to get off to a digital marketing agency um then I

to a digital marketing agency um then I

to a digital marketing agency um then I go to a boutique one a small one a small

go to a boutique one a small one a small

go to a boutique one a small one a small business and what I always did when I

business and what I always did when I

business and what I always did when I start the business with try and cut

start the business with try and cut

start the business with try and cut deals with them well i didn’t pay on

deals with them well i didn’t pay on

deals with them well i didn’t pay on cash because cash is king and i do you

cash because cash is king and i do you

cash because cash is king and i do you know i’ll give them a call center

know i’ll give them a call center

know i’ll give them a call center company you know so they really have to

company you know so they really have to

company you know so they really have to believe I’m give them a tiny little bit

believe I’m give them a tiny little bit

believe I’m give them a tiny little bit of steaks and we’ll do this for free and

of steaks and we’ll do this for free and

of steaks and we’ll do this for free and we’ll pay or pay more results run

we’ll pay or pay more results run

we’ll pay or pay more results run campaigns pair of results so yeah if we

campaigns pair of results so yeah if we

campaigns pair of results so yeah if we get the lead generation the qualified

get the lead generation the qualified

get the lead generation the qualified leads and kind of will pay you a

leads and kind of will pay you a

leads and kind of will pay you a percentage of that so there’s kind of

percentage of that so there’s kind of

percentage of that so there’s kind of real skin in the game from their point

real skin in the game from their point

real skin in the game from their point of view and also you’ve got to get these

of view and also you’ve got to get these

of view and also you’ve got to get these things you’ve got to get their Rockstar

things you’ve got to get their Rockstar

things you’ve got to get their Rockstar there’s a lot of people in digital

there’s a lot of people in digital

there’s a lot of people in digital market is such a hot area but there’s a

market is such a hot area but there’s a

market is such a hot area but there’s a very few rock star so I’ll go go ask the

very few rock star so I’ll go go ask the

very few rock star so I’ll go go ask the lobsters when you find them hang on sir

lobsters when you find them hang on sir

lobsters when you find them hang on sir and give another tunnel over the

and give another tunnel over the

and give another tunnel over the wreckage or make them really focused on

wreckage or make them really focused on

wreckage or make them really focused on your business success which is terrible

your business success which is terrible

your business success which is terrible that’s an ass some point and it’s funny

that’s an ass some point and it’s funny

that’s an ass some point and it’s funny because again like most people wouldn’t

because again like most people wouldn’t

because again like most people wouldn’t expect they who that kind of advice from

expect they who that kind of advice from

expect they who that kind of advice from somebody who has over 10,000 employees

somebody who has over 10,000 employees

somebody who has over 10,000 employees and you know huge company um I love it

and you know huge company um I love it

and you know huge company um I love it like the bootstrapping nature and one

like the bootstrapping nature and one

like the bootstrapping nature and one last thing I would add to the social

last thing I would add to the social

last thing I would add to the social media site is make sure just like you’re

media site is make sure just like you’re

media site is make sure just like you’re picking products and

picking products and

picking products and services that you’re passionate about

services that you’re passionate about

services that you’re passionate about make sure that you are posting stuff on

make sure that you are posting stuff on

make sure that you are posting stuff on social that you’re passionate about so

social that you’re passionate about so

social that you’re passionate about so not just discount and coupon codes and

not just discount and coupon codes and

not just discount and coupon codes and promotions but what is the positive

promotions but what is the positive

promotions but what is the positive change you’re trying to make in the

change you’re trying to make in the

change you’re trying to make in the world and spread that message through

world and spread that message through

world and spread that message through social that’s what’s going to get you in

social that’s what’s going to get you in

social that’s what’s going to get you in audience and so it’s going to get people

audience and so it’s going to get people

audience and so it’s going to get people to care about you a lot of the CEOs

to care about you a lot of the CEOs

to care about you a lot of the CEOs aren’t on Twitter and I think when a lot

aren’t on Twitter and I think when a lot

aren’t on Twitter and I think when a lot of them do you’re going to fail because

of them do you’re going to fail because

of them do you’re going to fail because they don’t have an ability to relate to

they don’t have an ability to relate to

they don’t have an ability to relate to the the end user the customer the the

the the end user the customer the the

the the end user the customer the the general public Steven you can feel his

general public Steven you can feel his

general public Steven you can feel his passion and energy and creativity and

passion and energy and creativity and

passion and energy and creativity and his love for entrepreneurs so if he will

his love for entrepreneurs so if he will

his love for entrepreneurs so if he will excel where a lot of the CEOs that I

excel where a lot of the CEOs that I

excel where a lot of the CEOs that I find aren’t I mean they’re great

find aren’t I mean they’re great

find aren’t I mean they’re great managers but they don’t have a passion

managers but they don’t have a passion

managers but they don’t have a passion that can be tied into their messages so

that can be tied into their messages so

that can be tied into their messages so yeah I think they’re going to get on but

yeah I think they’re going to get on but

yeah I think they’re going to get on but I don’t think they’re going to do a good

I don’t think they’re going to do a good

I don’t think they’re going to do a good job and I think a lot of entrepreneurs

job and I think a lot of entrepreneurs

job and I think a lot of entrepreneurs get on and they don’t do a good job

get on and they don’t do a good job

get on and they don’t do a good job either because they don’t tap into their

either because they don’t tap into their

either because they don’t tap into their passion what they stand for what they

passion what they stand for what they

passion what they stand for what they want to do in the world and put that out

want to do in the world and put that out

want to do in the world and put that out is that’s what’s going to attract people

is that’s what’s going to attract people

is that’s what’s going to attract people to you Patrick is asking about the

to you Patrick is asking about the

to you Patrick is asking about the Richard Branson way what do we think

Richard Branson way what do we think

Richard Branson way what do we think about the Richard Branson awayfind the

about the Richard Branson awayfind the

about the Richard Branson awayfind the market that’s being poorly served right

market that’s being poorly served right

market that’s being poorly served right now in enter it was with a pain that was

now in enter it was with a pain that was

now in enter it was with a pain that was where the airline industry is almost

where the airline industry is almost

where the airline industry is almost acted like a monopoly no group friends

acted like a monopoly no group friends

acted like a monopoly no group friends like Canada Erika and United those guys

like Canada Erika and United those guys

like Canada Erika and United those guys me too easy too long and then people

me too easy too long and then people

me too easy too long and then people like Brandon came along and said I kind

like Brandon came along and said I kind

like Brandon came along and said I kind of think we want to give an amazing

of think we want to give an amazing

of think we want to give an amazing experience to our passengers loadable

experience to our passengers loadable

experience to our passengers loadable waste food service and reliability and

waste food service and reliability and

waste food service and reliability and he said similar things on music

he said similar things on music

he said similar things on music obviously stun become the mobility

obviously stun become the mobility

obviously stun become the mobility around virgin mobile all these sort of

around virgin mobile all these sort of

around virgin mobile all these sort of things so that the other thing that you

things so that the other thing that you

things so that the other thing that you kind of can’t forget about Richard

kind of can’t forget about Richard

kind of can’t forget about Richard Branson is he is the brand of the

Branson is he is the brand of the

Branson is he is the brand of the company he’s a rock star and he has

company he’s a rock star and he has

company he’s a rock star and he has built a culture around loving customers

built a culture around loving customers

built a culture around loving customers and you know the training around

and you know the training around

and you know the training around customer customer customers

customer customer customers

customer customer customers then I’ll give you an example I was very

then I’ll give you an example I was very

then I’ll give you an example I was very lucky well probably have 15 years ago to

lucky well probably have 15 years ago to

lucky well probably have 15 years ago to go to one of Richard Branson’s private

go to one of Richard Branson’s private

go to one of Richard Branson’s private parties these farm up near Oxford in the

parties these farm up near Oxford in the

parties these farm up near Oxford in the UK and you wouldn’t believe that all

UK and you wouldn’t believe that all

UK and you wouldn’t believe that all these employees there once here massive

these employees there once here massive

these employees there once here massive sulphide it reminds me when I started my

sulphide it reminds me when I started my

sulphide it reminds me when I started my business back again in California we had

business back again in California we had

business back again in California we had summer body for our employees in my yard

summer body for our employees in my yard

summer body for our employees in my yard the Richard Branson is a rock stars and

the Richard Branson is a rock stars and

the Richard Branson is a rock stars and international legend everybody’s getting

international legend everybody’s getting

international legend everybody’s getting off buses there must have been 50 bus

off buses there must have been 50 bus

off buses there must have been 50 bus loads of people from NATO with boys

loads of people from NATO with boys

loads of people from NATO with boys custom all these people and he was there

custom all these people and he was there

custom all these people and he was there to personally shake everybody’s that you

to personally shake everybody’s that you

to personally shake everybody’s that you know wow you know and meet the kids and

know wow you know and meet the kids and

know wow you know and meet the kids and me because that’s that’s what it because

me because that’s that’s what it because

me because that’s that’s what it because i think the end of day as entrepreneurs

i think the end of day as entrepreneurs

i think the end of day as entrepreneurs is very personal you got a purpose you

is very personal you got a purpose you

is very personal you got a purpose you got center puts you follow any passion

got center puts you follow any passion

got center puts you follow any passion and you never want to get reason you

and you never want to get reason you

and you never want to get reason you started the business love you had from

started the business love you had from

started the business love you had from day one i even when you’ve been there in

day one i even when you’ve been there in

day one i even when you’ve been there in 20 30 40 years because still going to

20 30 40 years because still going to

20 30 40 years because still going to that fashion my energy and i’ll say

that fashion my energy and i’ll say

that fashion my energy and i’ll say branson not only has been a disrupter

branson not only has been a disrupter

branson not only has been a disrupter and really gotta challenge cover

and really gotta challenge cover

and really gotta challenge cover monopoly guys the complacent cards which

monopoly guys the complacent cards which

monopoly guys the complacent cards which we all thought and he’s a winner he’s

we all thought and he’s a winner he’s

we all thought and he’s a winner he’s done in the right way and build an

done in the right way and build an

done in the right way and build an amazing culture I’m really connecting

amazing culture I’m really connecting

amazing culture I’m really connecting these people with a local customers it’s

these people with a local customers it’s

these people with a local customers it’s absolutely was yeah and I think remember

absolutely was yeah and I think remember

absolutely was yeah and I think remember to when Branson started he was doing

to when Branson started he was doing

to when Branson started he was doing things that he loved to you might look

things that he loved to you might look

things that he loved to you might look at branson saying now who’s involved in

at branson saying now who’s involved in

at branson saying now who’s involved in hundreds of industries and hundreds of

hundreds of industries and hundreds of

hundreds of industries and hundreds of businesses when he was starting like the

businesses when he was starting like the

businesses when he was starting like the behavior to model isn’t just look for an

behavior to model isn’t just look for an

behavior to model isn’t just look for an opportunity and jump into it you have to

opportunity and jump into it you have to

opportunity and jump into it you have to have that passion to want to do it to

have that passion to want to do it to

have that passion to want to do it to the industries that he tackled on

the industries that he tackled on

the industries that he tackled on himself when he was starting work and

himself when he was starting work and

himself when he was starting work and she said he cared about that he wanted

she said he cared about that he wanted

she said he cared about that he wanted to make a difference in and that’s why

to make a difference in and that’s why

to make a difference in and that’s why he had so much success in it and

he had so much success in it and

he had so much success in it and Barney’s money from his family his

Barney’s money from his family his

Barney’s money from his family his daughter and I was also founded I know

daughter and I was also founded I know

daughter and I was also founded I know you I know you not to follow along the

you I know you not to follow along the

you I know you not to follow along the chat but there’s tons of great comments

chat but there’s tons of great comments

chat but there’s tons of great comments him saying thank you so much great

him saying thank you so much great

him saying thank you so much great advice people weren’t expecting this

advice people weren’t expecting this

advice people weren’t expecting this from someone who works in a corporate

from someone who works in a corporate

from someone who works in a corporate environment so

environment so

environment so you got some compliments there um more

you got some compliments there um more

you got some compliments there um more questions I know we’re kind of running

questions I know we’re kind of running

questions I know we’re kind of running short of the time but someone is asking

short of the time but someone is asking

short of the time but someone is asking what do i do about someone who’s copying

what do i do about someone who’s copying

what do i do about someone who’s copying my every move and innovation yes I guess

my every move and innovation yes I guess

my every move and innovation yes I guess you talked about competitor now one

you talked about competitor now one

you talked about competitor now one thing I kind of you know if I if I if I

thing I kind of you know if I if I if I

thing I kind of you know if I if I if I just live a moment in dreams you know

just live a moment in dreams you know

just live a moment in dreams you know won’t say things like we want to be

won’t say things like we want to be

won’t say things like we want to be loved our customers loved by our

loved our customers loved by our

loved our customers loved by our colleagues our employees but one thing I

colleagues our employees but one thing I

colleagues our employees but one thing I would always say is we want to be

would always say is we want to be

would always say is we want to be mimicked and cottage and absolutely bar

mimicked and cottage and absolutely bar

mimicked and cottage and absolutely bar competitors because i think that’s

competitors because i think that’s

competitors because i think that’s that’s the biggest credit you build a

that’s the biggest credit you build a

that’s the biggest credit you build a business you build a serviceable product

business you build a serviceable product

business you build a serviceable product and when you see competitors trying to

and when you see competitors trying to

and when you see competitors trying to copy you it means you doing though i

copy you it means you doing though i

copy you it means you doing though i think so i would say again kind of you

think so i would say again kind of you

think so i would say again kind of you know if you’ve got chronic business with

know if you’ve got chronic business with

know if you’ve got chronic business with intellectual property you can do stuff

intellectual property you can do stuff

intellectual property you can do stuff like pattern so you can build some

like pattern so you can build some

like pattern so you can build some barriers to entry build value made those

barriers to entry build value made those

barriers to entry build value made those elements of invention very precious and

elements of invention very precious and

elements of invention very precious and also protect them I don’t encourage you

also protect them I don’t encourage you

also protect them I don’t encourage you to do that but but also just as a

to do that but but also just as a

to do that but but also just as a culture because if you have the

culture because if you have the

culture because if you have the innovator out there everybody’s going to

innovator out there everybody’s going to

innovator out there everybody’s going to follow you and I think that’s that’s the

follow you and I think that’s that’s the

follow you and I think that’s that’s the company everybody wants to work for they

company everybody wants to work for they

company everybody wants to work for they don’t want to work for the guys and copy

don’t want to work for the guys and copy

don’t want to work for the guys and copy you they want to work and get absolutely

you they want to work and get absolutely

you they want to work and get absolutely the front of the train so i would say

the front of the train so i would say

the front of the train so i would say again it’s kind of not a negative is a

again it’s kind of not a negative is a

again it’s kind of not a negative is a positive and what it should spur you on

positive and what it should spur you on

positive and what it should spur you on is to never be complacent never rest on

is to never be complacent never rest on

is to never be complacent never rest on your laurels invent the next thing so

your laurels invent the next thing so

your laurels invent the next thing so they’re always kind of in your every

they’re always kind of in your every

they’re always kind of in your every error I love it I completely agree I

error I love it I completely agree I

error I love it I completely agree I think I thing can go one of two ways the

think I thing can go one of two ways the

think I thing can go one of two ways the one way is to fight it you know sue them

one way is to fight it you know sue them

one way is to fight it you know sue them you know get your lawyers write them

you know get your lawyers write them

you know get your lawyers write them letters taking the cord all of that

letters taking the cord all of that

letters taking the cord all of that stuff and the other way is just keep

stuff and the other way is just keep

stuff and the other way is just keep doing what you’re great at and building

doing what you’re great at and building

doing what you’re great at and building new innovations and new products and new

new innovations and new products and new

new innovations and new products and new services and stay ahead of the curve and

services and stay ahead of the curve and

services and stay ahead of the curve and I’m much I’m much more the positive guy

I’m much I’m much more the positive guy

I’m much I’m much more the positive guy right i love the positive approach

right i love the positive approach

right i love the positive approach people copy me people rip off my videos

people copy me people rip off my videos

people copy me people rip off my videos people take things that I’ve said and

people take things that I’ve said and

people take things that I’ve said and they put their name on it constantly

they put their name on it constantly

they put their name on it constantly it’s flattery and I just honest

it’s flattery and I just honest

it’s flattery and I just honest just ignore it because my strengths are

just ignore it because my strengths are

just ignore it because my strengths are going to be more in continue to produce

going to be more in continue to produce

going to be more in continue to produce and integrate amazing stuff instead of

and integrate amazing stuff instead of

and integrate amazing stuff instead of trying to fight them and take that down

trying to fight them and take that down

trying to fight them and take that down and don’t do that and it’s just negative

and don’t do that and it’s just negative

and don’t do that and it’s just negative energy i don’t know maybe that’s me

energy i don’t know maybe that’s me

energy i don’t know maybe that’s me personally I know there’s definitely a

personally I know there’s definitely a

personally I know there’s definitely a place for lawyers and lawsuits and all

place for lawyers and lawsuits and all

place for lawyers and lawsuits and all that stuff but I just tend to focus on

that stuff but I just tend to focus on

that stuff but I just tend to focus on the positive i just say mine is flattery

the positive i just say mine is flattery

the positive i just say mine is flattery keep going build something amazing come

keep going build something amazing come

keep going build something amazing come with the next innovation go faster maybe

with the next innovation go faster maybe

with the next innovation go faster maybe time for one more kiss an old clock

time for one more kiss an old clock

time for one more kiss an old clock people are talking about mindset and

people are talking about mindset and

people are talking about mindset and parents and uh being influences and

parents and uh being influences and

parents and uh being influences and wondering who are your influences that

wondering who are your influences that

wondering who are your influences that help you develop your positive mindset

help you develop your positive mindset

help you develop your positive mindset um I think there’s a lot of people of

um I think there’s a lot of people of

um I think there’s a lot of people of work with her through this very lucky

work with her through this very lucky

work with her through this very lucky luckiest girl I’m a one star there’s a

luckiest girl I’m a one star there’s a

luckiest girl I’m a one star there’s a lot of people over he is this guy was

lot of people over he is this guy was

lot of people over he is this guy was back in the 80s with a company called

back in the 80s with a company called

back in the 80s with a company called Oracle there’s amazing leader there

Oracle there’s amazing leader there

Oracle there’s amazing leader there could relay there’s an amazing guy who’s

could relay there’s an amazing guy who’s

could relay there’s an amazing guy who’s now sells for steep garnet it’s just

now sells for steep garnet it’s just

now sells for steep garnet it’s just there’s loads of people because again

there’s loads of people because again

there’s loads of people because again this is about I think authenticity

this is about I think authenticity

this is about I think authenticity integrity folliat dreams and people will

integrity folliat dreams and people will

integrity folliat dreams and people will gravitate towards your optimism so

gravitate towards your optimism so

gravitate towards your optimism so you’ll get people who come and put your

you’ll get people who come and put your

you’ll get people who come and put your arm around you so you can do that and

arm around you so you can do that and

arm around you so you can do that and this loss and they said there there’s

this loss and they said there there’s

this loss and they said there there’s lots of people who will say are now kind

lots of people who will say are now kind

lots of people who will say are now kind of bring through that and go with the

of bring through that and go with the

of bring through that and go with the positivity of the people who in kind of

positivity of the people who in kind of

positivity of the people who in kind of your mentors and and you can be very

your mentors and and you can be very

your mentors and and you can be very honest with them and again share your

honest with them and again share your

honest with them and again share your vulnerabilities or what you worried

vulnerabilities or what you worried

vulnerabilities or what you worried about how to do things differently what

about how to do things differently what

about how to do things differently what might not work on and al to me how you

might not work on and al to me how you

might not work on and al to me how you can course-correct things both in terms

can course-correct things both in terms

can course-correct things both in terms of products services and sometimes you

of products services and sometimes you

of products services and sometimes you know your own behavior and leadership

know your own behavior and leadership

know your own behavior and leadership and all those sort of personal elements

and all those sort of personal elements

and all those sort of personal elements as well so I would say I’m something

as well so I would say I’m something

as well so I would say I’m something we’ve done it’s a gesture is kind of

we’ve done it’s a gesture is kind of

we’ve done it’s a gesture is kind of formalized somebody called a mentoring

formalized somebody called a mentoring

formalized somebody called a mentoring program the small and medium businesses

program the small and medium businesses

program the small and medium businesses so one of my executives actually go out

so one of my executives actually go out

so one of my executives actually go out there with our customers and help them

there with our customers and help them

there with our customers and help them on their growth plans their business

on their growth plans their business

on their growth plans their business plans have a go international all these

plans have a go international all these

plans have a go international all these sort of things that are kind of the

sort of things that are kind of the

sort of things that are kind of the typical issues yeah and we’re going to

typical issues yeah and we’re going to

typical issues yeah and we’re going to grow

grow

grow business because I mean you’ve gotta

business because I mean you’ve gotta

business because I mean you’ve gotta gravitate towards people who feel that

gravitate towards people who feel that

gravitate towards people who feel that sense of responsibility and it’s amazing

sense of responsibility and it’s amazing

sense of responsibility and it’s amazing who you get advice from honestly so you

who you get advice from honestly so you

who you get advice from honestly so you can read books as well you can do all

can read books as well you can do all

can read books as well you can do all the good great books and all the

the good great books and all the

the good great books and all the mentoring books how to start a business

mentoring books how to start a business

mentoring books how to start a business but I’m a kind of believer in like

but I’m a kind of believer in like

but I’m a kind of believer in like heaven is small businesses we’re in the

heaven is small businesses we’re in the

heaven is small businesses we’re in the University of life and we’re learning on

University of life and we’re learning on

University of life and we’re learning on the streets of how to build great

the streets of how to build great

the streets of how to build great companies and special companies and

companies and special companies and

companies and special companies and follow our dreams and follow that sense

follow our dreams and follow that sense

follow our dreams and follow that sense of purpose and you will find there’ll be

of purpose and you will find there’ll be

of purpose and you will find there’ll be loads of people I’m sure Evan would say

loads of people I’m sure Evan would say

loads of people I’m sure Evan would say this who will give you in valuable

this who will give you in valuable

this who will give you in valuable advice and and I think wall of the

advice and and I think wall of the

advice and and I think wall of the school great sense of humility and

school great sense of humility and

school great sense of humility and getting nuggets of advice from people

getting nuggets of advice from people

getting nuggets of advice from people about great experience is is how is

about great experience is is how is

about great experience is is how is magic I love it I think for me people

magic I love it I think for me people

magic I love it I think for me people had the biggest impact on my mind said

had the biggest impact on my mind said

had the biggest impact on my mind said have been my parents live in didn’t know

have been my parents live in didn’t know

have been my parents live in didn’t know much about entrepreneurship I when I was

much about entrepreneurship I when I was

much about entrepreneurship I when I was growing up I thought I want to be a

growing up I thought I want to be a

growing up I thought I want to be a banker my high school yearbook

banker my high school yearbook

banker my high school yearbook graduating it says where do you want to

graduating it says where do you want to

graduating it says where do you want to be in taking I said VP at a bank and so

be in taking I said VP at a bank and so

be in taking I said VP at a bank and so I didn’t get a lot of entrepreneurialism

I didn’t get a lot of entrepreneurialism

I didn’t get a lot of entrepreneurialism from them but it was more just believe

from them but it was more just believe

from them but it was more just believe in myself right believe there that comes

in myself right believe there that comes

in myself right believe there that comes from my parents i remember when i was in

from my parents i remember when i was in

from my parents i remember when i was in school and doing poorly in grades I mean

school and doing poorly in grades I mean

school and doing poorly in grades I mean like have ceased that’s poor and my

like have ceased that’s poor and my

like have ceased that’s poor and my family my sister’s always got straight

family my sister’s always got straight

family my sister’s always got straight A’s I’d have to sit down with them every

A’s I’d have to sit down with them every

A’s I’d have to sit down with them every uh every time report card came in and

uh every time report card came in and

uh every time report card came in and they wanted to talk about I knew it was

they wanted to talk about I knew it was

they wanted to talk about I knew it was in trouble and they always told me that

in trouble and they always told me that

in trouble and they always told me that I was a cost really Carmichael on that I

I was a cost really Carmichael on that I

I was a cost really Carmichael on that I could do it and so my mom’s last name is

could do it and so my mom’s last name is

could do it and so my mom’s last name is cuz truly and they always just instill

cuz truly and they always just instill

cuz truly and they always just instill that belief in me to trust in myself and

that belief in me to trust in myself and

that belief in me to trust in myself and you know by the end of high school I was

you know by the end of high school I was

you know by the end of high school I was straight 90s and and kind of turned

straight 90s and and kind of turned

straight 90s and and kind of turned everything around but um yeah I really

everything around but um yeah I really

everything around but um yeah I really credit them for instilling that self

credit them for instilling that self

credit them for instilling that self confidence and belief in myself and I’ve

confidence and belief in myself and I’ve

confidence and belief in myself and I’ve gotten a lot of advice and business

gotten a lot of advice and business

gotten a lot of advice and business ideas from from different people along

ideas from from different people along

ideas from from different people along my route but that mindset i think really

my route but that mindset i think really

my route but that mindset i think really came from them I know we’re bumping up

came from them I know we’re bumping up

came from them I know we’re bumping up against a clock a bunch of people right

against a clock a bunch of people right

against a clock a bunch of people right in to say hey how can i find you on

in to say hey how can i find you on

in to say hey how can i find you on social you guys know how to find me

social you guys know how to find me

social you guys know how to find me steven is is

steven is is

steven is is kelly CEO uh I will elite i’ll link it

kelly CEO uh I will elite i’ll link it

kelly CEO uh I will elite i’ll link it in the description if you guys want to

in the description if you guys want to

in the description if you guys want to follow stephen as well and we are gonna

follow stephen as well and we are gonna

follow stephen as well and we are gonna do this again right we’re going to

do this again right we’re going to

do this again right we’re going to stevens coming to toronto on tuesday

stevens coming to toronto on tuesday

stevens coming to toronto on tuesday drawn about the labor day yeah he’s

drawn about the labor day yeah he’s

drawn about the labor day yeah he’s coming on tuesday and we’re going to do

coming on tuesday and we’re going to do

coming on tuesday and we’re going to do this live together and so I know there’s

this live together and so I know there’s

this live together and so I know there’s a lot of people that we weren’t able to

a lot of people that we weren’t able to

a lot of people that we weren’t able to answer the questions from I apologize to

answer the questions from I apologize to

answer the questions from I apologize to kind of go through and quickly but a lot

kind of go through and quickly but a lot

kind of go through and quickly but a lot of you guys were interested so we’ll do

of you guys were interested so we’ll do

of you guys were interested so we’ll do a follow-up session on Tuesday to answer

a follow-up session on Tuesday to answer

a follow-up session on Tuesday to answer all your questions and appreciate guys

all your questions and appreciate guys

all your questions and appreciate guys tuning in Steven did you have any any

tuning in Steven did you have any any

tuning in Steven did you have any any final things to say about finding you or

final things to say about finding you or

final things to say about finding you or sage words of advice um you guys you put

sage words of advice um you guys you put

sage words of advice um you guys you put my on twitter handle on there and we’re

my on twitter handle on there and we’re

my on twitter handle on there and we’re very fruitful pretty informal obviously

very fruitful pretty informal obviously

very fruitful pretty informal obviously we are totally committed as as your

we are totally committed as as your

we are totally committed as as your champion small immediate business we

champion small immediate business we

champion small immediate business we love seeing people like ever as another

love seeing people like ever as another

love seeing people like ever as another of your champions out that your guardian

of your champions out that your guardian

of your champions out that your guardian angel and we’ve got to build this

angel and we’ve got to build this

angel and we’ve got to build this community where people really appreciate

community where people really appreciate

community where people really appreciate the family almost very special about

the family almost very special about

the family almost very special about small and medium business why you guys

small and medium business why you guys

small and medium business why you guys and together the true here is the

and together the true here is the

and together the true here is the economy the risk takers the guys who go

economy the risk takers the guys who go

economy the risk takers the guys who go the extra mile the guys who come in the

the extra mile the guys who come in the

the extra mile the guys who come in the office crazy times in the morning to

office crazy times in the morning to

office crazy times in the morning to leave late at night the guy sometimes

leave late at night the guy sometimes

leave late at night the guy sometimes hope you do not chew off to his family

hope you do not chew off to his family

hope you do not chew off to his family birthdays and stuff like that because

birthdays and stuff like that because

birthdays and stuff like that because you love your customers on entering so

you love your customers on entering so

you love your customers on entering so we’re all there mooncalf you and you

we’re all there mooncalf you and you

we’re all there mooncalf you and you know see ya we will have another one of

know see ya we will have another one of

know see ya we will have another one of these so let’s keep the conversation

these so let’s keep the conversation

these so let’s keep the conversation going I love it well thank you guys so

going I love it well thank you guys so

going I love it well thank you guys so much for watching Stephen thank you so

much for watching Stephen thank you so

much for watching Stephen thank you so much for joining me and I will see you

much for joining me and I will see you

much for joining me and I will see you all on Tuesday great job thanks Alan

all on Tuesday great job thanks Alan

all on Tuesday great job thanks Alan thanks

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