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An Honest Conversation with Christopher Gavigan


alright welcome everyone again to

alright welcome everyone again to another hangout I’m really excited today

another hangout I’m really excited today

another hangout I’m really excited today I’ve got a special guest with me named

I’ve got a special guest with me named

I’ve got a special guest with me named Christopher gavigan and Christopher runs

Christopher gavigan and Christopher runs

Christopher gavigan and Christopher runs a company that sells diapers and and

a company that sells diapers and and

a company that sells diapers and and bath products and beauty products and

bath products and beauty products and

bath products and beauty products and why I want him on the show wasn’t for

why I want him on the show wasn’t for

why I want him on the show wasn’t for what he sells but how he does it he’s

what he sells but how he does it he’s

what he sells but how he does it he’s got a company named the honest company

got a company named the honest company

got a company named the honest company and his website is honest calm and

and his website is honest calm and

and his website is honest calm and Twitter accounts are all honest and all

Twitter accounts are all honest and all

Twitter accounts are all honest and all that and i’ve been i’ve been a big

that and i’ve been i’ve been a big

that and i’ve been i’ve been a big advocate of finding your one word in the

advocate of finding your one word in the

advocate of finding your one word in the planet to your business and here’s a guy

planet to your business and here’s a guy

planet to your business and here’s a guy who’s actually out living it so i

who’s actually out living it so i

who’s actually out living it so i thought i have him on the program and

thought i have him on the program and

thought i have him on the program and asking some questions see how he’s doing

asking some questions see how he’s doing

asking some questions see how he’s doing Christopher welcome aboard thank you for

Christopher welcome aboard thank you for

Christopher welcome aboard thank you for having me Evan I’m excited about it so

having me Evan I’m excited about it so

having me Evan I’m excited about it so how did you come up with a name this is

how did you come up with a name this is

how did you come up with a name this is yawns curious to me you know obviously

yawns curious to me you know obviously

yawns curious to me you know obviously you’re selling diapers as you’re

you’re selling diapers as you’re

you’re selling diapers as you’re starting how do you come up with a

starting how do you come up with a

starting how do you come up with a diaper company and call it honest com so

diaper company and call it honest com so

diaper company and call it honest com so when my business partner Jessica Alba

when my business partner Jessica Alba

when my business partner Jessica Alba and I when we are develop on this whole

and I when we are develop on this whole

and I when we are develop on this whole concept we were imagining the world and

concept we were imagining the world and

concept we were imagining the world and dreaming big and imagining what we

dreaming big and imagining what we

dreaming big and imagining what we wanted it and I had done a lot of work

wanted it and I had done a lot of work

wanted it and I had done a lot of work when I was a executive director and CEO

when I was a executive director and CEO

when I was a executive director and CEO of a nonprofit that really went behind

of a nonprofit that really went behind

of a nonprofit that really went behind the Iron Curtain the glass walls of

the Iron Curtain the glass walls of

the Iron Curtain the glass walls of smokin beers whatever you want to say a

smokin beers whatever you want to say a

smokin beers whatever you want to say a big business specifically consumer

big business specifically consumer

big business specifically consumer packaged goods and what I found was was

packaged goods and what I found was was

packaged goods and what I found was was the levels of transparency and

the levels of transparency and

the levels of transparency and authenticity and clarity and and

authenticity and clarity and and

authenticity and clarity and and willingness to tell the consumer what

willingness to tell the consumer what

willingness to tell the consumer what was healthy and safe wasn’t there and

was healthy and safe wasn’t there and

was healthy and safe wasn’t there and I’m thinking wow these are consumable

I’m thinking wow these are consumable

I’m thinking wow these are consumable these are products that were using on

these are products that were using on

these are products that were using on our bodies in in our homes on our

our bodies in in our homes on our

our bodies in in our homes on our children were ingesting them how is that

children were ingesting them how is that

children were ingesting them how is that possible that you don’t have a level of

possible that you don’t have a level of

possible that you don’t have a level of connection with the brand and I’m really

connection with the brand and I’m really

connection with the brand and I’m really knowing what’s inside and so when we

knowing what’s inside and so when we

knowing what’s inside and so when we were thinking about what’s the world we

were thinking about what’s the world we

were thinking about what’s the world we wanted you know the company which are

wanted you know the company which are

wanted you know the company which are those two words that surround the honest

those two words that surround the honest

those two words that surround the honest company i love i love the the beauty of

company i love i love the the beauty of

company i love i love the the beauty of the word honest the simplicity the the

the word honest the simplicity the the

the word honest the simplicity the the that’s a to be honest is really

that’s a to be honest is really

that’s a to be honest is really something that every

something that every

something that every wants to be an aspiration as well as

wants to be an aspiration as well as

wants to be an aspiration as well as well as a real-life fulfillment so I

well as a real-life fulfillment so I

well as a real-life fulfillment so I loved it’s it’s a variability and what

loved it’s it’s a variability and what

loved it’s it’s a variability and what it could do and I loved surrounding it

it could do and I loved surrounding it

it could do and I loved surrounding it by that and company which are standard

by that and company which are standard

by that and company which are standard words in a traditional marketplace and

words in a traditional marketplace and

words in a traditional marketplace and when you insert it is almost as if

when you insert it is almost as if

when you insert it is almost as if honest could be a parenthetical or

honest could be a parenthetical or

honest could be a parenthetical or bracketed and it does so much to a name

bracketed and it does so much to a name

bracketed and it does so much to a name and a title and a a company name I love

and a title and a a company name I love

and a title and a a company name I love it I love it did you get haters or

it I love it did you get haters or

it I love it did you get haters or doubters at the start when you told them

doubters at the start when you told them

doubters at the start when you told them I want to call this company the honest

I want to call this company the honest

I want to call this company the honest company yeah yeah they were like wow

company yeah yeah they were like wow

company yeah yeah they were like wow that’s a lot to live up to you can you

that’s a lot to live up to you can you

that’s a lot to live up to you can you handle that that level of criticism and

handle that that level of criticism and

handle that that level of criticism and so what I know about myself is up

so what I know about myself is up

so what I know about myself is up crazily I’m a detail fanatic I am

crazily I’m a detail fanatic I am

crazily I’m a detail fanatic I am ridiculously overwrought with the

ridiculously overwrought with the

ridiculously overwrought with the details because every detail matters and

details because every detail matters and

details because every detail matters and so I knew that there was a level of

so I knew that there was a level of

so I knew that there was a level of standard and protocols that we would

standard and protocols that we would

standard and protocols that we would bring to the space and I wanted to I

bring to the space and I wanted to I

bring to the space and I wanted to I wanted to challenge ourselves it’s you

wanted to challenge ourselves it’s you

wanted to challenge ourselves it’s you know to be honest what does it mean it’s

know to be honest what does it mean it’s

know to be honest what does it mean it’s also a challenge and so I wanted to see

also a challenge and so I wanted to see

also a challenge and so I wanted to see if we could do it and what i said is

if we could do it and what i said is

if we could do it and what i said is often you know we’re not the perfect

often you know we’re not the perfect

often you know we’re not the perfect company or the honest company and when

company or the honest company and when

company or the honest company and when you relief really when you release the

you relief really when you release the

you relief really when you release the your idea of perfection and really

your idea of perfection and really

your idea of perfection and really embrace the word honesty honesty has a

embrace the word honesty honesty has a

embrace the word honesty honesty has a lot of variability and when but when you

lot of variability and when but when you

lot of variability and when but when you hold it up to a standard when you’re

hold it up to a standard when you’re

hold it up to a standard when you’re talking about health and children and

talking about health and children and

talking about health and children and family and home you have a lot to live

family and home you have a lot to live

family and home you have a lot to live up to and so we’re constantly as a brand

up to and so we’re constantly as a brand

up to and so we’re constantly as a brand and a company we’re constantly pushing

and a company we’re constantly pushing

and a company we’re constantly pushing yourself to become better every single

yourself to become better every single

yourself to become better every single day to really achieve to be more more

day to really achieve to be more more

day to really achieve to be more more honest every single day when you were

honest every single day when you were

honest every single day when you were younger and kind of getting started in

younger and kind of getting started in

younger and kind of getting started in your career what was honestly something

your career what was honestly something

your career what was honestly something that was still a core value to you did

that was still a core value to you did

that was still a core value to you did you get upset when people weren’t honest

you get upset when people weren’t honest

you get upset when people weren’t honest I mean you talked about your background

I mean you talked about your background

I mean you talked about your background in the consumer packaged goods company

in the consumer packaged goods company

in the consumer packaged goods company does it go back giving younger for you

does it go back giving younger for you

does it go back giving younger for you like seeing people who are dishonest

like seeing people who are dishonest

like seeing people who are dishonest bothered you and you were always be

bothered you and you were always be

bothered you and you were always be honest kid growing up and it’s a good

honest kid growing up and it’s a good

honest kid growing up and it’s a good question um so I grew up in a very

question um so I grew up in a very

question um so I grew up in a very a very traditional Irish Catholic family

a very traditional Irish Catholic family

a very traditional Irish Catholic family and those values were very much

and those values were very much

and those values were very much connected to family and being true to

connected to family and being true to

connected to family and being true to yourself and yes being honest and um

yourself and yes being honest and um

yourself and yes being honest and um unaccessible relatable so yeah it

unaccessible relatable so yeah it

unaccessible relatable so yeah it certainly was there in the more

certainly was there in the more

certainly was there in the more traditional family value sense and i had

traditional family value sense and i had

traditional family value sense and i had a a mom and a dad there are four boys in

a a mom and a dad there are four boys in

a a mom and a dad there are four boys in my family and so we were we were held to

my family and so we were we were held to

my family and so we were we were held to standards of a level of honesty but I

standards of a level of honesty but I

standards of a level of honesty but I think in my career early in my career

think in my career early in my career

think in my career early in my career what I did see especially when my work

what I did see especially when my work

what I did see especially when my work on advocacy and going to Washington and

on advocacy and going to Washington and

on advocacy and going to Washington and I was frustrated I was frustrated with

I was frustrated I was frustrated with

I was frustrated I was frustrated with the glad-handing I was frustrated with

the glad-handing I was frustrated with

the glad-handing I was frustrated with the lack of an authentic relationship in

the lack of an authentic relationship in

the lack of an authentic relationship in business I think business is all about

business I think business is all about

business I think business is all about relationships and do people want to work

relationships and do people want to work

relationships and do people want to work with you do they get excited about you

with you do they get excited about you

with you do they get excited about you do they believe in your vision and your

do they believe in your vision and your

do they believe in your vision and your your ideas but can you execute do you

your ideas but can you execute do you

your ideas but can you execute do you show up and for me showing up as being

show up and for me showing up as being

show up and for me showing up as being your most honest self are you consistent

your most honest self are you consistent

your most honest self are you consistent can people depend on you and that’s what

can people depend on you and that’s what

can people depend on you and that’s what I love about brand building that’s what

I love about brand building that’s what

I love about brand building that’s what I love about building a culture on a

I love about building a culture on a

I love about building a culture on a team and when I was really frustrated

team and when I was really frustrated

team and when I was really frustrated with when I saw the work when i was

with when I saw the work when i was

with when I saw the work when i was doing advocacy and legislation work at

doing advocacy and legislation work at

doing advocacy and legislation work at the nonprofit levels everyone would

the nonprofit levels everyone would

the nonprofit levels everyone would promise you the world and then at the

promise you the world and then at the

promise you the world and then at the end of the day there was no consistent

end of the day there was no consistent

end of the day there was no consistent follow up and that’s that’s being

follow up and that’s that’s being

follow up and that’s that’s being totally dishonest right you can feel

totally dishonest right you can feel

totally dishonest right you can feel your passion coming through the screen I

your passion coming through the screen I

your passion coming through the screen I love it now so obviously have a business

love it now so obviously have a business

love it now so obviously have a business partner I think you have two business

partner I think you have two business

partner I think you have two business partners are just know there’s three of

partners are just know there’s three of

partners are just know there’s three of us actually three founders okay Jessica

us actually three founders okay Jessica

us actually three founders okay Jessica Alba she and I worked on the brand from

Alba she and I worked on the brand from

Alba she and I worked on the brand from his early iterations starting way back

his early iterations starting way back

his early iterations starting way back when we met in 2008 and then Bryan Lee

when we met in 2008 and then Bryan Lee

when we met in 2008 and then Bryan Lee who is a internet entrepreneur who comes

who is a internet entrepreneur who comes

who is a internet entrepreneur who comes from legalzoom and shoedazzle as well as

from legalzoom and shoedazzle as well as

from legalzoom and shoedazzle as well as some other endeavors and then Sean Cain

some other endeavors and then Sean Cain

some other endeavors and then Sean Cain who is also a great general manager and

who is also a great general manager and

who is also a great general manager and a tremendous acumen in internet and

a tremendous acumen in internet and

a tremendous acumen in internet and accounting we all came together to

accounting we all came together to

accounting we all came together to really formulate the bread and so when

really formulate the bread and so when

really formulate the bread and so when you’re talking about the brain and

you’re talking about the brain and

you’re talking about the brain and bringing on people especially somebody’s

bringing on people especially somebody’s

bringing on people especially somebody’s in

in

in an owner do you lead with honest you

an owner do you lead with honest you

an owner do you lead with honest you like this is what we stand for is what

like this is what we stand for is what

like this is what we stand for is what we believe in or is it you know we have

we believe in or is it you know we have

we believe in or is it you know we have this great diaper baby bath products

this great diaper baby bath products

this great diaper baby bath products walking and by the way we called the

walking and by the way we called the

walking and by the way we called the honest company that’s a good question

honest company that’s a good question

honest company that’s a good question when we when we were all coming together

when we when we were all coming together

when we when we were all coming together I think we came together in a very

I think we came together in a very

I think we came together in a very synergistic fashion we were all young

synergistic fashion we were all young

synergistic fashion we were all young parents you know as it stands today we

parents you know as it stands today we

parents you know as it stands today we have amongst the four of us we have ten

have amongst the four of us we have ten

have amongst the four of us we have ten children between us all and they’re all

children between us all and they’re all

children between us all and they’re all under or just six and under so there was

under or just six and under so there was

under or just six and under so there was a level of passion and around what does

a level of passion and around what does

a level of passion and around what does it mean to be a modern family brand or a

it mean to be a modern family brand or a

it mean to be a modern family brand or a lifestyle brand and the connection

lifestyle brand and the connection

lifestyle brand and the connection around being honest and the connection

around being honest and the connection

around being honest and the connection around really creating something that

around really creating something that

around really creating something that was that was new and modern and fresh

was that was new and modern and fresh

was that was new and modern and fresh and and again the spin on and the I

and and again the spin on and the I

and and again the spin on and the I using the levels of irony in the word

using the levels of irony in the word

using the levels of irony in the word the honest company we all love that the

the honest company we all love that the

the honest company we all love that the plan words and really I think you know

plan words and really I think you know

plan words and really I think you know we all are very type-a we all want to

we all are very type-a we all want to

we all are very type-a we all want to win and we all believe that we have the

win and we all believe that we have the

win and we all believe that we have the right to win and a belief in the right

right to win and a belief in the right

right to win and a belief in the right to win means my vision in the world I

to win means my vision in the world I

to win means my vision in the world I want to create and make true and

want to create and make true and

want to create and make true and wholesome and for us seeing a new

wholesome and for us seeing a new

wholesome and for us seeing a new reality in the end of family and baby

reality in the end of family and baby

reality in the end of family and baby space that you know there’s so many

space that you know there’s so many

space that you know there’s so many toxic offenders and so many people not

toxic offenders and so many people not

toxic offenders and so many people not doing honest things in food and cleaning

doing honest things in food and cleaning

doing honest things in food and cleaning & diapering and personal care and beauty

& diapering and personal care and beauty

& diapering and personal care and beauty it’s it’s astounding at the corporate

it’s it’s astounding at the corporate

it’s it’s astounding at the corporate level and so that was offensive to me

level and so that was offensive to me

level and so that was offensive to me that to the point where I knew when we

that to the point where I knew when we

that to the point where I knew when we all came together that level of passion

all came together that level of passion

all came together that level of passion really merged together dovetailed well

really merged together dovetailed well

really merged together dovetailed well so this is awesome a lot of people come

so this is awesome a lot of people come

so this is awesome a lot of people come up with this clear core value t’adore

up with this clear core value t’adore

up with this clear core value t’adore one word and they struggle how do you

one word and they struggle how do you

one word and they struggle how do you apply this so tell me my say okay my

apply this so tell me my say okay my

apply this so tell me my say okay my core values honesty but how do I build a

core values honesty but how do I build a

core values honesty but how do I build a business around honesty that’s such a

business around honesty that’s such a

business around honesty that’s such a huge word so can you talk about the

huge word so can you talk about the

huge word so can you talk about the different areas in your business that

different areas in your business that

different areas in your business that you apply to so you’re talking a little

you apply to so you’re talking a little

you apply to so you’re talking a little about the the product itself and making

about the the product itself and making

about the the product itself and making sure that it’s not being harmful to kids

sure that it’s not being harmful to kids

sure that it’s not being harmful to kids and being

and being

and being sick what kind of product selection can

sick what kind of product selection can

sick what kind of product selection can you talk about other ways that honest

you talk about other ways that honest

you talk about other ways that honest you know is your mantra or your

you know is your mantra or your

you know is your mantra or your operating philosophy and how you apply

operating philosophy and how you apply

operating philosophy and how you apply to running your business so we just

to running your business so we just

to running your business so we just walked we had all hands deck meaning

walked we had all hands deck meaning

walked we had all hands deck meaning three minutes ago and that’s when we

three minutes ago and that’s when we

three minutes ago and that’s when we bring the company together as one large

bring the company together as one large

bring the company together as one large group and we all you know we sit around

group and we all you know we sit around

group and we all you know we sit around we used to be sitting around a table now

we used to be sitting around a table now

we used to be sitting around a table now it’s gathering around in one large group

it’s gathering around in one large group

it’s gathering around in one large group and we we are what I love about us is

and we we are what I love about us is

and we we are what I love about us is that it’s constantly an open circle it

that it’s constantly an open circle it

that it’s constantly an open circle it early formed in an optimist a semicircle

early formed in an optimist a semicircle

early formed in an optimist a semicircle full circle fashion so that everyone has

full circle fashion so that everyone has

full circle fashion so that everyone has a voice everyone can be participatory in

a voice everyone can be participatory in

a voice everyone can be participatory in those those all hands on deck and it’s

those those all hands on deck and it’s

those those all hands on deck and it’s and it’s having a level of connection

and it’s having a level of connection

and it’s having a level of connection with instead of here’s the corporate

with instead of here’s the corporate

with instead of here’s the corporate executives and here’s the here’s the

executives and here’s the here’s the

executives and here’s the here’s the customer service groups and all the

customer service groups and all the

customer service groups and all the divisions and and and steps in between

divisions and and and steps in between

divisions and and and steps in between we have a great level of connectivity at

we have a great level of connectivity at

we have a great level of connectivity at every single level and so I’m doing

every single level and so I’m doing

every single level and so I’m doing trainings with customer service work

trainings with customer service work

trainings with customer service work we’re going to the warehouse and packing

we’re going to the warehouse and packing

we’re going to the warehouse and packing boxes were rolling calls with with with

boxes were rolling calls with with with

boxes were rolling calls with with with that client services team we’re engaging

that client services team we’re engaging

that client services team we’re engaging so I think honesty for the company on a

so I think honesty for the company on a

so I think honesty for the company on a day-to-day level is really it is

day-to-day level is really it is

day-to-day level is really it is everyone’s in it to win it and

everyone’s in it to win it and

everyone’s in it to win it and everyone’s here to really see this

everyone’s here to really see this

everyone’s here to really see this mission and purpose driven company

mission and purpose driven company

mission and purpose driven company really fulfill its its core goal and a

really fulfill its its core goal and a

really fulfill its its core goal and a lot of it is we’re not here to build

lot of it is we’re not here to build

lot of it is we’re not here to build product we’re here to educate a new

product we’re here to educate a new

product we’re here to educate a new generation of consumers and parents and

generation of consumers and parents and

generation of consumers and parents and we and not we know and we see and all my

we and not we know and we see and all my

we and not we know and we see and all my career’s been it’s in pivotal times of

career’s been it’s in pivotal times of

career’s been it’s in pivotal times of change particularly life and death new

change particularly life and death new

change particularly life and death new baby and someone dying that people

baby and someone dying that people

baby and someone dying that people understand wow on behalf of my health on

understand wow on behalf of my health on

understand wow on behalf of my health on behalf of my lifestyle I’m going to

behalf of my lifestyle I’m going to

behalf of my lifestyle I’m going to change and we love that that we get to

change and we love that that we get to

change and we love that that we get to engage with families every day and

engage with families every day and

engage with families every day and either talk to them on a very authentic

either talk to them on a very authentic

either talk to them on a very authentic level and and human relational level and

level and and human relational level and

level and and human relational level and as a company we really live in and

as a company we really live in and

as a company we really live in and breathe it on a day-to-day basis

breathe it on a day-to-day basis

breathe it on a day-to-day basis and as you’re growing your team now

and as you’re growing your team now

and as you’re growing your team now writes its total with the founders and

writes its total with the founders and

writes its total with the founders and you’re building a team and you know you

you’re building a team and you know you

you’re building a team and you know you race your cattle and you’re trying to

race your cattle and you’re trying to

race your cattle and you’re trying to grow how do you how do you hire for

grow how do you how do you hire for

grow how do you how do you hire for honest yeah you uh it’s funny because a

honest yeah you uh it’s funny because a

honest yeah you uh it’s funny because a lot of times in interviews and we’ve

lot of times in interviews and we’ve

lot of times in interviews and we’ve trained some of the particular in the

trained some of the particular in the

trained some of the particular in the client services team when someone walks

client services team when someone walks

client services team when someone walks in and they’re so prepared and so

in and they’re so prepared and so

in and they’re so prepared and so Freddie and they have their like their

Freddie and they have their like their

Freddie and they have their like their one-liners ready we really talk about

one-liners ready we really talk about

one-liners ready we really talk about family we talk about what motivates them

family we talk about what motivates them

family we talk about what motivates them we talk about some stories from their

we talk about some stories from their

we talk about some stories from their childhood and you can really see you can

childhood and you can really see you can

childhood and you can really see you can see a person really come to life and

see a person really come to life and

see a person really come to life and really if there look I think honest a

really if there look I think honest a

really if there look I think honest a lot of honesty that comes out of a

lot of honesty that comes out of a

lot of honesty that comes out of a person is when they’re their most

person is when they’re their most

person is when they’re their most relaxed self and we really we depend on

relaxed self and we really we depend on

relaxed self and we really we depend on that from people we depend on them to

that from people we depend on them to

that from people we depend on them to come to work every day and really be if

come to work every day and really be if

come to work every day and really be if they’re engaged in smart self and have

they’re engaged in smart self and have

they’re engaged in smart self and have the highest level of effort because

the highest level of effort because

the highest level of effort because smarts and efforts will win over over

smarts and efforts will win over over

smarts and efforts will win over over you know an attitude any single day in

you know an attitude any single day in

you know an attitude any single day in business but I want people to really

business but I want people to really

business but I want people to really bring themselves to the company and

bring themselves to the company and

bring themselves to the company and embrace their what wackiness if they

embrace their what wackiness if they

embrace their what wackiness if they have it or whatever range that of a

have it or whatever range that of a

have it or whatever range that of a person they are and so when we you hire

person they are and so when we you hire

person they are and so when we you hire I like to hire people that have a sense

I like to hire people that have a sense

I like to hire people that have a sense of self and truth in that self and and

of self and truth in that self and and

of self and truth in that self and and are Oh get settled and okay with

are Oh get settled and okay with

are Oh get settled and okay with themselves you know it’s funny we just

themselves you know it’s funny we just

themselves you know it’s funny we just had that we had we had a great new hire

had that we had we had a great new hire

had that we had we had a great new hire that she was on tour with the Michael

that she was on tour with the Michael

that she was on tour with the Michael Jackson tour in Las Vegas right before

Jackson tour in Las Vegas right before

Jackson tour in Las Vegas right before Michael had died to really be part of

Michael had died to really be part of

Michael had died to really be part of that whole group and and she was telling

that whole group and and she was telling

that whole group and and she was telling that story there was level of passion

that story there was level of passion

that story there was level of passion and and and and there was gonna be her

and and and and there was gonna be her

and and and and there was gonna be her life’s work until Michael had died and

life’s work until Michael had died and

life’s work until Michael had died and she was so excited about it that she had

she was so excited about it that she had

she was so excited about it that she had a massive shift in career went back to

a massive shift in career went back to

a massive shift in career went back to school and and really dedicated caters

school and and really dedicated caters

school and and really dedicated caters of two years of work that this was a

of two years of work that this was a

of two years of work that this was a first break for her and that I thought

first break for her and that I thought

first break for her and that I thought that was just awesome and so we gave her

that was just awesome and so we gave her

that was just awesome and so we gave her a break and we gave her the job and she

a break and we gave her the job and she

a break and we gave her the job and she you know do

you know do

you know do a top-performing job but I loved seeing

a top-performing job but I loved seeing

a top-performing job but I loved seeing I I know you can translate passion to

I I know you can translate passion to

I I know you can translate passion to different places in your life and if

different places in your life and if

different places in your life and if you’ve got a depth in a pool of passion

you’ve got a depth in a pool of passion

you’ve got a depth in a pool of passion you can tap into it whenever you want to

you can tap into it whenever you want to

you can tap into it whenever you want to I love it it’s really cool do you train

I love it it’s really cool do you train

I love it it’s really cool do you train I’m thinking as you talk with honestly

I’m thinking as you talk with honestly

I’m thinking as you talk with honestly this kind of subsets and there’s there’s

this kind of subsets and there’s there’s

this kind of subsets and there’s there’s other sister words that go with it so

other sister words that go with it so

other sister words that go with it so obviously honesty is telling the truth

obviously honesty is telling the truth

obviously honesty is telling the truth but it’s also good quality and it’s also

but it’s also good quality and it’s also

but it’s also good quality and it’s also respect are there other core elements

respect are there other core elements

respect are there other core elements that kind of what does honest mean to

that kind of what does honest mean to

that kind of what does honest mean to you besides just what everybody thinks

you besides just what everybody thinks

you besides just what everybody thinks of it as as being an honest person is

of it as as being an honest person is

of it as as being an honest person is there yeah I mean it’s it’s it’s it’s um

there yeah I mean it’s it’s it’s it’s um

there yeah I mean it’s it’s it’s it’s um it’s telling people the truth even

it’s telling people the truth even

it’s telling people the truth even though it might be uncomfortable mmm

though it might be uncomfortable mmm

though it might be uncomfortable mmm from a business perspective is sometimes

from a business perspective is sometimes

from a business perspective is sometimes it’s saying it’s you know the question

it’s saying it’s you know the question

it’s saying it’s you know the question that comes up often is hey why don’t you

that comes up often is hey why don’t you

that comes up often is hey why don’t you use more organic ingredients that’s what

use more organic ingredients that’s what

use more organic ingredients that’s what you guys stand for absolutely and we are

you guys stand for absolutely and we are

you guys stand for absolutely and we are constantly improving organic content and

constantly improving organic content and

constantly improving organic content and always having plant-based ingredients

always having plant-based ingredients

always having plant-based ingredients and and sometimes you have to make a

and and sometimes you have to make a

and and sometimes you have to make a compromise either from a sourcing

compromise either from a sourcing

compromise either from a sourcing perspective or supply chain perspective

perspective or supply chain perspective

perspective or supply chain perspective or a quality of our integrity and

or a quality of our integrity and

or a quality of our integrity and ingredie perspective certainly price and

ingredie perspective certainly price and

ingredie perspective certainly price and comes into that equation and it it’s

comes into that equation and it it’s

comes into that equation and it it’s being honest with you consumer and

being honest with you consumer and

being honest with you consumer and letting them know hey we had to make

letting them know hey we had to make

letting them know hey we had to make this decision for the best of the

this decision for the best of the

this decision for the best of the business for the both the integrity of

business for the both the integrity of

business for the both the integrity of the product for the quality of the

the product for the quality of the

the product for the quality of the product and and that might be and

product and and that might be and

product and and that might be and telling them that and having them being

telling them that and having them being

telling them that and having them being okay with that I’m not afraid to tell

okay with that I’m not afraid to tell

okay with that I’m not afraid to tell them that because I know that Oh are

them that because I know that Oh are

them that because I know that Oh are short medium and long term intention is

short medium and long term intention is

short medium and long term intention is done become even better and it’s if you

done become even better and it’s if you

done become even better and it’s if you are allowing people to see your

are allowing people to see your

are allowing people to see your trajectory of growth they’re okay if

trajectory of growth they’re okay if

trajectory of growth they’re okay if you’re right here right now and they’re

you’re right here right now and they’re

you’re right here right now and they’re excited that you might move along that

excited that you might move along that

excited that you might move along that path right and um so yes it’s quality

path right and um so yes it’s quality

path right and um so yes it’s quality it’s being it’s saying things that

it’s being it’s saying things that

it’s being it’s saying things that matter it’s telling people what you

matter it’s telling people what you

matter it’s telling people what you won’t do and and and what’s not inside

won’t do and and and what’s not inside

won’t do and and and what’s not inside as opposed to what is inside and for me

as opposed to what is inside and for me

as opposed to what is inside and for me it’s it’s it’s a

it’s it’s it’s a

it’s it’s it’s a really being I think honest today is is

really being I think honest today is is

really being I think honest today is is really embracing the range of

really embracing the range of

really embracing the range of personality that you are and as a

personality that you are and as a

personality that you are and as a company we have a ton of range you know

company we have a ton of range you know

company we have a ton of range you know where everything from an 80 diaper to

where everything from an 80 diaper to

where everything from an 80 diaper to Harran shampoo to fruit and veggie

Harran shampoo to fruit and veggie

Harran shampoo to fruit and veggie washes to the range of lifestyle things

washes to the range of lifestyle things

washes to the range of lifestyle things and i love that range of expansiveness

and i love that range of expansiveness

and i love that range of expansiveness because at the end of the day a parent

because at the end of the day a parent

because at the end of the day a parent just wants to trust you and I guard that

just wants to trust you and I guard that

just wants to trust you and I guard that trust I safeguard that every single day

trust I safeguard that every single day

trust I safeguard that every single day I and our and that’s the only thing we

I and our and that’s the only thing we

I and our and that’s the only thing we have is our credibility and Trust and i

have is our credibility and Trust and i

have is our credibility and Trust and i will i am i am such a strong passionate

will i am i am such a strong passionate

will i am i am such a strong passionate advocate of keeping that trust and that

advocate of keeping that trust and that

advocate of keeping that trust and that level of connectivity with that consumer

level of connectivity with that consumer

level of connectivity with that consumer and letting them know we are doing

and letting them know we are doing

and letting them know we are doing everything possible every single day to

everything possible every single day to

everything possible every single day to build and improve on that level of trust

build and improve on that level of trust

build and improve on that level of trust and connection and relationship what

and connection and relationship what

and connection and relationship what where can you take on us i mean can you

where can you take on us i mean can you

where can you take on us i mean can you sell honest computers can you sell on

sell honest computers can you sell on

sell honest computers can you sell on his cars honest hotels like what is it

his cars honest hotels like what is it

his cars honest hotels like what is it how does the brand stretch it seems like

how does the brand stretch it seems like

how does the brand stretch it seems like it can apply to anything yeah so i will

it can apply to anything yeah so i will

it can apply to anything yeah so i will look I wrote in 2008 I wrote a book

look I wrote in 2008 I wrote a book

look I wrote in 2008 I wrote a book called healthy child healthy world and

called healthy child healthy world and

called healthy child healthy world and its really a lifestyle map a few years

its really a lifestyle map a few years

its really a lifestyle map a few years later Jessica are my business partner

later Jessica are my business partner

later Jessica are my business partner wrote a book called the honest life

wrote a book called the honest life

wrote a book called the honest life where she essentially talks about a

where she essentially talks about a

where she essentially talks about a similar range of lifestyle choices one

similar range of lifestyle choices one

similar range of lifestyle choices one would have everything to what’s the

would have everything to what’s the

would have everything to what’s the water in your home to how are you caring

water in your home to how are you caring

water in your home to how are you caring for your pets to what are you putting on

for your pets to what are you putting on

for your pets to what are you putting on your body and what’s your makeup and how

your body and what’s your makeup and how

your body and what’s your makeup and how do you engage with the community so

do you engage with the community so

do you engage with the community so there’s a lot of range and a lot of

there’s a lot of range and a lot of

there’s a lot of range and a lot of product opportunities in that range do I

product opportunities in that range do I

product opportunities in that range do I have a perspective on what the paint is

have a perspective on what the paint is

have a perspective on what the paint is on the wall from health and toxicity

on the wall from health and toxicity

on the wall from health and toxicity perspective and a level of ingredients

perspective and a level of ingredients

perspective and a level of ingredients and integrity yes does that mean we’re

and integrity yes does that mean we’re

and integrity yes does that mean we’re going to go there who knows but i love i

going to go there who knows but i love i

going to go there who knows but i love i love to your point and I appreciate that

love to your point and I appreciate that

love to your point and I appreciate that you see it I love the opportunity a

you see it I love the opportunity a

you see it I love the opportunity a range of we’re honest could go over time

range of we’re honest could go over time

range of we’re honest could go over time that it’s really exciting as a business

that it’s really exciting as a business

that it’s really exciting as a business professional as a as a product developer

professional as a as a product developer

professional as a as a product developer and formulator and but what made it make

and formulator and but what made it make

and formulator and but what made it make the most excited is that on the other

the most excited is that on the other

the most excited is that on the other side of this wall is our customer

side of this wall is our customer

side of this wall is our customer service group they are rolling anywhere

service group they are rolling anywhere

service group they are rolling anywhere between three to six thousand calls a

between three to six thousand calls a

between three to six thousand calls a day that’s moms and dads calling in

day that’s moms and dads calling in

day that’s moms and dads calling in every day and saying hey let’s manage my

every day and saying hey let’s manage my

every day and saying hey let’s manage my account let’s talk about new products

account let’s talk about new products

account let’s talk about new products let me learn about your ingredients or

let me learn about your ingredients or

let me learn about your ingredients or how to use products and they really

how to use products and they really

how to use products and they really their job and their their their main

their job and their their their main

their job and their their their main goal is to really talk and help parents

goal is to really talk and help parents

goal is to really talk and help parents understand about products and the

understand about products and the

understand about products and the integrity of our work but it’s also to

integrity of our work but it’s also to

integrity of our work but it’s also to help those to engage those consumers and

help those to engage those consumers and

help those to engage those consumers and those parents to say hey where do you

those parents to say hey where do you

those parents to say hey where do you want us to go what gets you excited what

want us to go what gets you excited what

want us to go what gets you excited what what do you believe would make your

what do you believe would make your

what do you believe would make your world better and so our mantra of

world better and so our mantra of

world better and so our mantra of together we can make it better is really

together we can make it better is really

together we can make it better is really lived and breathed through our

lived and breathed through our

lived and breathed through our relationships and our conversations and

relationships and our conversations and

relationships and our conversations and listening to those consumers and not

listening to those consumers and not

listening to those consumers and not only listening but really acting upon

only listening but really acting upon

only listening but really acting upon their their words we’re not doing it for

their their words we’re not doing it for

their their words we’re not doing it for market research we’re really doing it to

market research we’re really doing it to

market research we’re really doing it to influence our pipeline you mentioned at

influence our pipeline you mentioned at

influence our pipeline you mentioned at the start when we came up with the name

the start when we came up with the name

the start when we came up with the name on us that that it was a high standard

on us that that it was a high standard

on us that that it was a high standard to hold yourself to and it’s

to hold yourself to and it’s

to hold yourself to and it’s aspirational II can’t be perfect but

aspirational II can’t be perfect but

aspirational II can’t be perfect but you’re working towards it and that’s a

you’re working towards it and that’s a

you’re working towards it and that’s a great you know benchmark for you and

great you know benchmark for you and

great you know benchmark for you and your team to go for but it’s part of

your team to go for but it’s part of

your team to go for but it’s part of what you’re doing to to try to encourage

what you’re doing to to try to encourage

what you’re doing to to try to encourage the general public your customers to be

the general public your customers to be

the general public your customers to be more honest um part of it is it’s the

more honest um part of it is it’s the

more honest um part of it is it’s the other ranges of what we’d love to

other ranges of what we’d love to

other ranges of what we’d love to achieve certainly it’s it’s to encourage

achieve certainly it’s it’s to encourage

achieve certainly it’s it’s to encourage our members our customers understand

our members our customers understand

our members our customers understand what up what is an honest lifestyle what

what up what is an honest lifestyle what

what up what is an honest lifestyle what does that mean that means living in a

does that mean that means living in a

does that mean that means living in a more pure wholesome natural sense it’s

more pure wholesome natural sense it’s

more pure wholesome natural sense it’s understanding how to embrace more the

understanding how to embrace more the

understanding how to embrace more the plant based technologies in a range of

plant based technologies in a range of

plant based technologies in a range of products how to how to live more simply

products how to how to live more simply

products how to how to live more simply and connected to the earth and your

and connected to the earth and your

and connected to the earth and your children and to really prioritize human

children and to really prioritize human

children and to really prioritize human health at the top of that pyramid it

health at the top of that pyramid it

health at the top of that pyramid it certainly is to drive awareness to our

certainly is to drive awareness to our

certainly is to drive awareness to our supply chain and ethnic groups of people

supply chain and ethnic groups of people

supply chain and ethnic groups of people who week how who and how we build our

who week how who and how we build our

who week how who and how we build our products I want that I want complete

products I want that I want complete

products I want that I want complete transparency we have it

transparency we have it

transparency we have it amongst every raw material where it’s

amongst every raw material where it’s

amongst every raw material where it’s coming from how it’s being made what its

coming from how it’s being made what its

coming from how it’s being made what its source and and and knowing that I think

source and and and knowing that I think

source and and and knowing that I think a lot of brands don’t know that and

a lot of brands don’t know that and

a lot of brands don’t know that and that’s concerning to me and that’s also

that’s concerning to me and that’s also

that’s concerning to me and that’s also i want other brands to to challenge

i want other brands to to challenge

i want other brands to to challenge themselves I want them to look at that

themselves I want them to look at that

themselves I want them to look at that their core products the core ingredients

their core products the core ingredients

their core products the core ingredients are using every single thing because at

are using every single thing because at

are using every single thing because at a parts per billion it matters at a

a parts per billion it matters at a

a parts per billion it matters at a parts per trillion it matters and as a

parts per trillion it matters and as a

parts per trillion it matters and as a company we’re doing everything we

company we’re doing everything we

company we’re doing everything we possibly can to safeguard the end-user

possibly can to safeguard the end-user

possibly can to safeguard the end-user that one day old and I would really

that one day old and I would really

that one day old and I would really encourage other brands to do the same

encourage other brands to do the same

encourage other brands to do the same it’s it’s not easy it takes time we’ve

it’s it’s not easy it takes time we’ve

it’s it’s not easy it takes time we’ve had to start from scratches of a bit

had to start from scratches of a bit

had to start from scratches of a bit easier but I would challenge the

easier but I would challenge the

easier but I would challenge the consumer marketplace and other grants or

consumer marketplace and other grants or

consumer marketplace and other grants or really do your best to think about your

really do your best to think about your

really do your best to think about your consumer you know it’s that whole triple

consumer you know it’s that whole triple

consumer you know it’s that whole triple bottom line you know people is number

bottom line you know people is number

bottom line you know people is number one planet is number two profit is

one planet is number two profit is

one planet is number two profit is number three and and if you could

number three and and if you could

number three and and if you could balance that and really prioritizing

balance that and really prioritizing

balance that and really prioritizing people I think we’d have a better world

people I think we’d have a better world

people I think we’d have a better world and reality for us all yeah I mean one

and reality for us all yeah I mean one

and reality for us all yeah I mean one of the things I love about what you’re

of the things I love about what you’re

of the things I love about what you’re doing is look at your Twitter feed kind

doing is look at your Twitter feed kind

doing is look at your Twitter feed kind of you know cyber stalking you before we

of you know cyber stalking you before we

of you know cyber stalking you before we got on the call and you had some great

got on the call and you had some great

got on the call and you had some great quotes one was like serve others with

quotes one was like serve others with

quotes one was like serve others with honesty and integrity and the rest

honesty and integrity and the rest

honesty and integrity and the rest ideally fall into place and kind of

ideally fall into place and kind of

ideally fall into place and kind of sharing quotes it again have nothing to

sharing quotes it again have nothing to

sharing quotes it again have nothing to do with what you’re selling but just

do with what you’re selling but just

do with what you’re selling but just trying to spread the word of honesty and

trying to spread the word of honesty and

trying to spread the word of honesty and and being a model company for people to

and being a model company for people to

and being a model company for people to look up to and say hey here’s a company

look up to and say hey here’s a company

look up to and say hey here’s a company whose was doing it right you know

whose was doing it right you know

whose was doing it right you know they’re your maybe you maybe be

they’re your maybe you maybe be

they’re your maybe you maybe be pioneering a whole lot of thing if

pioneering a whole lot of thing if

pioneering a whole lot of thing if you’re making a lot of mistakes along

you’re making a lot of mistakes along

you’re making a lot of mistakes along the way but this could be the model for

the way but this could be the model for

the way but this could be the model for a lot of businesses to follow and you

a lot of businesses to follow and you

a lot of businesses to follow and you guys are that role model for a lot of

guys are that role model for a lot of

guys are that role model for a lot of people

he joined again I came in sorry bout

he joined again I came in sorry bout sorry I’ll you bounce kit did you hear

sorry I’ll you bounce kit did you hear

sorry I’ll you bounce kit did you hear what I said yeah you were saying

what I said yeah you were saying

what I said yeah you were saying something of serving the world of

something of serving the world of

something of serving the world of honesty and having some quote I would

honesty and having some quote I would

honesty and having some quote I would love for you to repeat it if you come

love for you to repeat it if you come

love for you to repeat it if you come back I mean so as a quote that you put

back I mean so as a quote that you put

back I mean so as a quote that you put on your Twitter feed about about being

on your Twitter feed about about being

on your Twitter feed about about being honest and what I loved about it was

honest and what I loved about it was

honest and what I loved about it was that you you’re not just selling diapers

that you you’re not just selling diapers

that you you’re not just selling diapers you’re not just pumping out product and

you’re not just pumping out product and

you’re not just pumping out product and your Twitter feed you’re trying to

your Twitter feed you’re trying to

your Twitter feed you’re trying to spread the message of honesty and and I

spread the message of honesty and and I

spread the message of honesty and and I could see that being a model for people

could see that being a model for people

could see that being a model for people to want to follow and say hey here’s a

to want to follow and say hey here’s a

to want to follow and say hey here’s a company who’s doing it right who’s

company who’s doing it right who’s

company who’s doing it right who’s leading the way who we can look up to

leading the way who we can look up to

leading the way who we can look up to and you may not have it perfect yet I

and you may not have it perfect yet I

and you may not have it perfect yet I mean there’s no guidebook for you to

mean there’s no guidebook for you to

mean there’s no guidebook for you to follow your make it up as you go but

follow your make it up as you go but

follow your make it up as you go but you’re setting a lot of rules and trends

you’re setting a lot of rules and trends

you’re setting a lot of rules and trends that other companies can follow and

that other companies can follow and

that other companies can follow and model to create a more on this world

model to create a more on this world

model to create a more on this world well I really appreciate that come the

well I really appreciate that come the

well I really appreciate that come the compliment and and and comment I’m

compliment and and and comment I’m

compliment and and and comment I’m humbled by that I my greatest core

humbled by that I my greatest core

humbled by that I my greatest core passion is to educate and empower and

passion is to educate and empower and

passion is to educate and empower and inspire change right now we’re choosing

inspire change right now we’re choosing

inspire change right now we’re choosing to build product and and build high

to build product and and build high

to build product and and build high quality safer product it could be in our

quality safer product it could be in our

quality safer product it could be in our core mission we don’t talk about product

core mission we don’t talk about product

core mission we don’t talk about product we talk about what’s the change in the

we talk about what’s the change in the

we talk about what’s the change in the world we want to see and how do we

world we want to see and how do we

world we want to see and how do we accomplish that and i haven’t of the

accomplish that and i haven’t of the

accomplish that and i haven’t of the happily worked with patagonian way back

happily worked with patagonian way back

happily worked with patagonian way back when and that’s what they did and i was

when and that’s what they did and i was

when and that’s what they did and i was i was so impressed with that like

i was so impressed with that like

i was so impressed with that like they’re not there to talk about hey

they’re not there to talk about hey

they’re not there to talk about hey we’re making great outdoor gear they

we’re making great outdoor gear they

we’re making great outdoor gear they talk about what’s the impact in the

talk about what’s the impact in the

talk about what’s the impact in the world we want to have and how do we get

world we want to have and how do we get

world we want to have and how do we get there and i love that that that Creed in

there and i love that that that Creed in

there and i love that that that Creed in that mantra and that’s what we try to

that mantra and that’s what we try to

that mantra and that’s what we try to live here every day we’re here to

live here every day we’re here to

live here every day we’re here to educate and we’re here to transforms

educate and we’re here to transforms

educate and we’re here to transforms people’s how they engage with their

people’s how they engage with their

people’s how they engage with their legislators how they communicate and

legislators how they communicate and

legislators how they communicate and raise their children how they connect

raise their children how they connect

raise their children how they connect with family how they tend to the earth I

with family how they tend to the earth I

with family how they tend to the earth I so they’re all these different ranges of

so they’re all these different ranges of

so they’re all these different ranges of a lifestyle that you go through and and

a lifestyle that you go through and and

a lifestyle that you go through and and i think you know we all do our part to

i think you know we all do our part to

i think you know we all do our part to share and that knowledge and excite

share and that knowledge and excite

share and that knowledge and excite people to do the same have you had any

people to do the same have you had any

people to do the same have you had any difficult choices you know opportunities

difficult choices you know opportunities

difficult choices you know opportunities that come up that either work with

that come up that either work with

that come up that either work with people or bring on this investor or

people or bring on this investor or

people or bring on this investor or launch this product but then it

launch this product but then it

launch this product but then it conflicted with honest and you like you

conflicted with honest and you like you

conflicted with honest and you like you know what we can’t do this as a brand

know what we can’t do this as a brand

know what we can’t do this as a brand even though it looks like a great

even though it looks like a great

even though it looks like a great opportunity on paper we have to pass

opportunity on paper we have to pass

opportunity on paper we have to pass because it’s not who we are yeah there

because it’s not who we are yeah there

because it’s not who we are yeah there have been some of those for sure and at

have been some of those for sure and at

have been some of those for sure and at the end of the day you have to you’ve

the end of the day you have to you’ve

the end of the day you have to you’ve got to align yourself with what you

got to align yourself with what you

got to align yourself with what you believe is right and I what I love about

believe is right and I what I love about

believe is right and I what I love about us and certainly our port team and then

us and certainly our port team and then

us and certainly our port team and then our larger team in general is with

our larger team in general is with

our larger team in general is with really we act from our heart and if it

really we act from our heart and if it

really we act from our heart and if it doesn’t feel right we’re not going to go

doesn’t feel right we’re not going to go

doesn’t feel right we’re not going to go there or we’re not going to do that and

there or we’re not going to do that and

there or we’re not going to do that and or one particular instance which I

or one particular instance which I

or one particular instance which I thought was a big learning experience

thought was a big learning experience

thought was a big learning experience for me and and I’m and I’m trying to

for me and and I’m and I’m trying to

for me and and I’m and I’m trying to educate around it is the first the

educate around it is the first the

educate around it is the first the company first started with a wife a baby

company first started with a wife a baby

company first started with a wife a baby wipe product or what we call them honest

wipe product or what we call them honest

wipe product or what we call them honest wipes because I feel like there are tons

wipes because I feel like there are tons

wipes because I feel like there are tons of wipes the market that car dashboard

of wipes the market that car dashboard

of wipes the market that car dashboard wipes and finger wipes like you just

wipes and finger wipes like you just

wipes and finger wipes like you just need one wipe and these honest wipes

need one wipe and these honest wipes

need one wipe and these honest wipes just happen to come out too thin and so

just happen to come out too thin and so

just happen to come out too thin and so we went to the drawing board and I went

we went to the drawing board and I went

we went to the drawing board and I went around the domestic landscape of

around the domestic landscape of

around the domestic landscape of manufacturers and then up to Canada I

manufacturers and then up to Canada I

manufacturers and then up to Canada I could no one would build to my spec I

could no one would build to my spec I

could no one would build to my spec I really set the bar incredibly high no

really set the bar incredibly high no

really set the bar incredibly high no one would build the my spec and so I had

one would build the my spec and so I had

one would build the my spec and so I had to go internationally and i found a

to go internationally and i found a

to go internationally and i found a manufacturing group and partner that was

manufacturing group and partner that was

manufacturing group and partner that was really able to hit our demands that hit

really able to hit our demands that hit

really able to hit our demands that hit our wallet water quality demands our

our wallet water quality demands our

our wallet water quality demands our sourcing demands I mean I want a medical

sourcing demands I mean I want a medical

sourcing demands I mean I want a medical grade cloth not garmin grade i wanted a

grade cloth not garmin grade i wanted a

grade cloth not garmin grade i wanted a filtration system on the water because

filtration system on the water because

filtration system on the water because that’s the the majority of the lotion

that’s the the majority of the lotion

that’s the the majority of the lotion load in a wife i wanted that is so high

load in a wife i wanted that is so high

load in a wife i wanted that is so high and I had all these demands and no one

and I had all these demands and no one

and I had all these demands and no one can beat except this one group and they

can beat except this one group and they

can beat except this one group and they happened to be in China just outside of

happened to be in China just outside of

happened to be in China just outside of Shanghai and I I from a second from my

Shanghai and I I from a second from my

Shanghai and I I from a second from my core inner inner in herself was like I

core inner inner in herself was like I

core inner inner in herself was like I don’t know enough about China and seems

don’t know enough about China and seems

don’t know enough about China and seems really far away and shipping lanes and

really far away and shipping lanes and

really far away and shipping lanes and carbon footprints and qualities uh

carbon footprints and qualities uh

carbon footprints and qualities uh stories about bad quality I just don’t

stories about bad quality I just don’t

stories about bad quality I just don’t want to go there and I hide what I

want to go there and I hide what I

want to go there and I hide what I physically went there and learned and

physically went there and learned and

physically went there and learned and educated myself because I I needed that

educated myself because I I needed that

educated myself because I I needed that and the business needed that and I

and the business needed that and I

and the business needed that and I learned a lot and you’ve got first

learned a lot and you’ve got first

learned a lot and you’ve got first second and third class

second and third class

second and third class tears of manufacturing around the globe

tears of manufacturing around the globe

tears of manufacturing around the globe and that happens to be here in the

and that happens to be here in the

and that happens to be here in the backyard of California and or around the

backyard of California and or around the

backyard of California and or around the world in Asia and I learned a lot and

world in Asia and I learned a lot and

world in Asia and I learned a lot and what I what I was most impressed by was

what I what I was most impressed by was

what I what I was most impressed by was if you tell get and we have a great blog

if you tell get and we have a great blog

if you tell get and we have a great blog post about it and on our blog if you

post about it and on our blog if you

post about it and on our blog if you google that and I think you you you

google that and I think you you you

google that and I think you you you learn that what your preconceived

learn that what your preconceived

learn that what your preconceived notions aren’t always what what you

notions aren’t always what what you

notions aren’t always what what you believe they couldn’t should be so as an

believe they couldn’t should be so as an

believe they couldn’t should be so as an adult you can learn and it again as our

adult you can learn and it again as our

adult you can learn and it again as our job as a company is to educate people

job as a company is to educate people

job as a company is to educate people around the globe and around the world

around the globe and around the world

around the globe and around the world about different ranges of business

about different ranges of business

about different ranges of business choices and that was one that we made

choices and that was one that we made

choices and that was one that we made and I’m proud of it because we’ve got a

and I’m proud of it because we’ve got a

and I’m proud of it because we’ve got a great manufacturing partner that hits

great manufacturing partner that hits

great manufacturing partner that hits standards above and beyond everyone that

standards above and beyond everyone that

standards above and beyond everyone that I’ve ever seen domestically and and

I’ve ever seen domestically and and

I’ve ever seen domestically and and that’s been it’s been exciting to go

that’s been it’s been exciting to go

that’s been it’s been exciting to go through that that life cycle yeah I mean

through that that life cycle yeah I mean

through that that life cycle yeah I mean that question came up to and part of

that question came up to and part of

that question came up to and part of from what you tweeted about CBS and CBS

from what you tweeted about CBS and CBS

from what you tweeted about CBS and CBS recently changed name CVS health and now

recently changed name CVS health and now

recently changed name CVS health and now they’re all about how amazing and

they’re all about how amazing and

they’re all about how amazing and they’re getting rid of all of their

they’re getting rid of all of their

they’re getting rid of all of their cigarettes because that’s not help and

cigarettes because that’s not help and

cigarettes because that’s not help and that that’s a two billion dollar hit

that that’s a two billion dollar hit

that that’s a two billion dollar hit right I mean you should talk abut we

right I mean you should talk abut we

right I mean you should talk abut we should give that a noun called the CVS

should give that a noun called the CVS

should give that a noun called the CVS effect because that that’s a two billion

effect because that that’s a two billion

effect because that that’s a two billion dollar decision that is so impressive

dollar decision that is so impressive

dollar decision that is so impressive and business should really look at them

and business should really look at them

and business should really look at them say what is best for again prioritize

say what is best for again prioritize

say what is best for again prioritize human health people first and at the end

human health people first and at the end

human health people first and at the end of the environment where you prioritize

of the environment where you prioritize

of the environment where you prioritize people yeah I love it we’re just getting

people yeah I love it we’re just getting

people yeah I love it we’re just getting a somebody writing in from Brazil Raziel

a somebody writing in from Brazil Raziel

a somebody writing in from Brazil Raziel says I haven’t had any luck shrine the

says I haven’t had any luck shrine the

says I haven’t had any luck shrine the honest products yet but I’m a huge fan

honest products yet but I’m a huge fan

honest products yet but I’m a huge fan of the company but learning so much for

of the company but learning so much for

of the company but learning so much for them for your blog and so thank you so

them for your blog and so thank you so

them for your blog and so thank you so just uh Brasel coming in being a fan

just uh Brasel coming in being a fan

just uh Brasel coming in being a fan when you going to brazil on a single

when you going to brazil on a single

when you going to brazil on a single ticket for 0 l-r coming soon no an

ticket for 0 l-r coming soon no an

ticket for 0 l-r coming soon no an international expansion is always a

international expansion is always a

international expansion is always a great opportunity i mean everything is

great opportunity i mean everything is

great opportunity i mean everything is prioritized

prioritized

prioritized prioritization and sequencing so we’re

prioritization and sequencing so we’re

prioritization and sequencing so we’re looking at a lot of great opportunities

looking at a lot of great opportunities

looking at a lot of great opportunities we’re excited about many of them and the

we’re excited about many of them and the

we’re excited about many of them and the business continues to do well we’re

business continues to do well we’re

business continues to do well we’re really humbled by that is their

really humbled by that is their

really humbled by that is their simplicity and having one word I mean

simplicity and having one word I mean

simplicity and having one word I mean you look at you look at any company and

you look at you look at any company and

you look at you look at any company and they have noble intentions we look at

they have noble intentions we look at

they have noble intentions we look at their values they all have values but

their values they all have values but

their values they all have values but nobody can remember what they are

nobody can remember what they are

nobody can remember what they are because they have you know 15 core

because they have you know 15 core

because they have you know 15 core values and probably the CEO could name

values and probably the CEO could name

values and probably the CEO could name them off and here you are like one main

them off and here you are like one main

them off and here you are like one main thing that just make it easier to try to

thing that just make it easier to try to

thing that just make it easier to try to live your mission yeah I think I think

live your mission yeah I think I think

live your mission yeah I think I think people the word honest is is really

people the word honest is is really

people the word honest is is really comforting and it’s in it it’s really

comforting and it’s in it it’s really

comforting and it’s in it it’s really satisfying to hear and and people get it

satisfying to hear and and people get it

satisfying to hear and and people get it immediately and so when you have that

immediately and so when you have that

immediately and so when you have that level of a when you can connect deep on

level of a when you can connect deep on

level of a when you can connect deep on that psychological level I think people

that psychological level I think people

that psychological level I think people really are satisfied and feel comforted

really are satisfied and feel comforted

really are satisfied and feel comforted by that and that’s a it’s a it’s an

by that and that’s a it’s a it’s an

by that and that’s a it’s a it’s an honor to hold that word and it’s a it’s

honor to hold that word and it’s a it’s

honor to hold that word and it’s a it’s a it’s a privilege and it’s a duty right

a it’s a privilege and it’s a duty right

a it’s a privilege and it’s a duty right it it holds you to a standard and and it

it it holds you to a standard and and it

it it holds you to a standard and and it drives us forward every single day have

drives us forward every single day have

drives us forward every single day have you collaborated with any any other

you collaborated with any any other

you collaborated with any any other entrepreneurs or artists or musicians or

entrepreneurs or artists or musicians or

entrepreneurs or artists or musicians or other people who just want to spread the

other people who just want to spread the

other people who just want to spread the message of honesty and and since you

message of honesty and and since you

message of honesty and and since you guys both believe in the same thing

guys both believe in the same thing

guys both believe in the same thing there’s opportunities to work together I

there’s opportunities to work together I

there’s opportunities to work together I mean we’re just starting to look at some

mean we’re just starting to look at some

mean we’re just starting to look at some depths of collaborations out we’ve done

depths of collaborations out we’ve done

depths of collaborations out we’ve done some brand collaborations on the product

some brand collaborations on the product

some brand collaborations on the product side which were really satisfying but

side which were really satisfying but

side which were really satisfying but nothing that you’re mentioning I would

nothing that you’re mentioning I would

nothing that you’re mentioning I would love to do what we’re really doing now

love to do what we’re really doing now

love to do what we’re really doing now is we’re really building out our social

is we’re really building out our social

is we’re really building out our social goodness arm we’re to our core and built

goodness arm we’re to our core and built

goodness arm we’re to our core and built into the DNA of this company outside of

into the DNA of this company outside of

into the DNA of this company outside of you know what’s the change we want to

you know what’s the change we want to

you know what’s the change we want to see it’s it’s our responsibility to

see it’s it’s our responsibility to

see it’s it’s our responsibility to really provide an offer and and support

really provide an offer and and support

really provide an offer and and support communities and families in need and

communities and families in need and

communities and families in need and that’s what we’ve identified and so I

that’s what we’ve identified and so I

that’s what we’ve identified and so I you will see us really flexing our

you will see us really flexing our

you will see us really flexing our muscle and our and our belief system

muscle and our and our belief system

muscle and our and our belief system there

there

there because we’d use a lot right now some of

because we’d use a lot right now some of

because we’d use a lot right now some of it those broadcasts and much of it

it those broadcasts and much of it

it those broadcasts and much of it doesn’t and I really want to build

doesn’t and I really want to build

doesn’t and I really want to build programs and messy messaging campaigns

programs and messy messaging campaigns

programs and messy messaging campaigns and stuff that Jose that social

and stuff that Jose that social

and stuff that Jose that social philanthropy built into business much am

philanthropy built into business much am

philanthropy built into business much am Thompson does it well we know Blake very

Thompson does it well we know Blake very

Thompson does it well we know Blake very well and some other brands have done it

well and some other brands have done it

well and some other brands have done it very well yeah I think honest is not as

very well yeah I think honest is not as

very well yeah I think honest is not as known for that but it is like it is

known for that but it is like it is

known for that but it is like it is everything we do over here every day

everything we do over here every day

everything we do over here every day yeah I mean if there’s an artist who’s

yeah I mean if there’s an artist who’s

yeah I mean if there’s an artist who’s trying to promote honesty maybe yeah

trying to promote honesty maybe yeah

trying to promote honesty maybe yeah design part of a package for you or

design part of a package for you or

design part of a package for you or limited your reason just a social media

limited your reason just a social media

limited your reason just a social media post um anyone who wants a design

post um anyone who wants a design

post um anyone who wants a design diapers you know we’ve got this great

diapers you know we’ve got this great

diapers you know we’ve got this great great platform of designer diapers yeah

great platform of designer diapers yeah

great platform of designer diapers yeah I think it’s a great idea regret it love

I think it’s a great idea regret it love

I think it’s a great idea regret it love it again in a question feeling and

it again in a question feeling and

it again in a question feeling and voting in oh just saying I was at the

voting in oh just saying I was at the

voting in oh just saying I was at the AMA honest office a few weeks ago I love

AMA honest office a few weeks ago I love

AMA honest office a few weeks ago I love honest you got some good fans here yeah

honest you got some good fans here yeah

honest you got some good fans here yeah what is the honest mantra coming out

what is the honest mantra coming out

what is the honest mantra coming out when’s the next book by Christopher the

when’s the next book by Christopher the

when’s the next book by Christopher the honest mantra hitting the bookshelves ah

honest mantra hitting the bookshelves ah

honest mantra hitting the bookshelves ah it’s a great question I am uh I’m

it’s a great question I am uh I’m

it’s a great question I am uh I’m entertaining right now we build a team

entertaining right now we build a team

entertaining right now we build a team and you know we’re only 32 months old

and you know we’re only 32 months old

and you know we’re only 32 months old we’re you know we’re infant and as a

we’re you know we’re infant and as a

we’re you know we’re infant and as a lesson company so we’re really just

lesson company so we’re really just

lesson company so we’re really just getting a feet under US and um it this

getting a feet under US and um it this

getting a feet under US and um it this has been a true labor of love I’ve three

has been a true labor of love I’ve three

has been a true labor of love I’ve three babies and this has definitely been a

babies and this has definitely been a

babies and this has definitely been a fourth and a fifth so I it’s been a lot

fourth and a fifth so I it’s been a lot

fourth and a fifth so I it’s been a lot of work one day soon I hope yeah I think

of work one day soon I hope yeah I think

of work one day soon I hope yeah I think it’s a great idea i mean honestly i may

it’s a great idea i mean honestly i may

it’s a great idea i mean honestly i may be gushing but i love what you stand for

be gushing but i love what you stand for

be gushing but i love what you stand for i wish more businesses what adopted and

i wish more businesses what adopted and

i wish more businesses what adopted and you know you getting your message out

you know you getting your message out

you know you getting your message out there and leading by example but also

there and leading by example but also

there and leading by example but also being out there i know you’re doing a

being out there i know you’re doing a

being out there i know you’re doing a lot of speaking and they’re going on

lot of speaking and they’re going on

lot of speaking and they’re going on traveling and just promoting that

traveling and just promoting that

traveling and just promoting that concept there’s a lot of people it

concept there’s a lot of people it

concept there’s a lot of people it hasn’t even hit their radar but you you

hasn’t even hit their radar but you you

hasn’t even hit their radar but you you noticed that you got frustrated and you

noticed that you got frustrated and you

noticed that you got frustrated and you took action a lot of people are they may

took action a lot of people are they may

took action a lot of people are they may be frustrate but they don’t know what to

be frustrate but they don’t know what to

be frustrate but they don’t know what to do and you’re giving them a model for

do and you’re giving them a model for

do and you’re giving them a model for hey here’s the type of business that you

hey here’s the type of business that you

hey here’s the type of business that you can that you can start and make it be a

can that you can start and make it be a

can that you can start and make it be a positive force for good in the world so

positive force for good in the world so

positive force for good in the world so i love it man i’m gushing but i love i

i love it man i’m gushing but i love i

i love it man i’m gushing but i love i love you’re all about awesome I

love you’re all about awesome I

love you’re all about awesome I appreciate that oh um you know I want to

appreciate that oh um you know I want to

appreciate that oh um you know I want to be respected

be respected

be respected I know I said we’d be done in half now

I know I said we’d be done in half now

I know I said we’d be done in half now we’re kind of little over so I’m gonna

we’re kind of little over so I’m gonna

we’re kind of little over so I’m gonna be honest in my precinct well I am in ya

be honest in my precinct well I am in ya

be honest in my precinct well I am in ya got I’m always willing to do more than

got I’m always willing to do more than

got I’m always willing to do more than these and and and if you guys have

these and and and if you guys have

these and and and if you guys have questions throughout the on Google

questions throughout the on Google

questions throughout the on Google Hangouts we can ask questions in that I

Hangouts we can ask questions in that I

Hangouts we can ask questions in that I think there’s the chat feed there as

think there’s the chat feed there as

think there’s the chat feed there as well but it’s always a pleasure to talk

well but it’s always a pleasure to talk

well but it’s always a pleasure to talk about the business talk about what we

about the business talk about what we

about the business talk about what we stand a believe because when you’re dead

stand a believe because when you’re dead

stand a believe because when you’re dead down and day-to-day execution and

down and day-to-day execution and

down and day-to-day execution and building a team it’s nice to come up and

building a team it’s nice to come up and

building a team it’s nice to come up and really you know at the treetop level

really you know at the treetop level

really you know at the treetop level really see the forest and and see how

really see the forest and and see how

really see the forest and and see how it’s grown and maturing and i gotta say

it’s grown and maturing and i gotta say

it’s grown and maturing and i gotta say if this is it’s really a source of pride

if this is it’s really a source of pride

if this is it’s really a source of pride and and and i think i feel very humbled

and and and i think i feel very humbled

and and and i think i feel very humbled and honored to really be be part of the

and honored to really be be part of the

and honored to really be be part of the group and the team and and I feel like

group and the team and and I feel like

group and the team and and I feel like truly this is a life’s work moment and

truly this is a life’s work moment and

truly this is a life’s work moment and that I hope continued eight can continue

that I hope continued eight can continue

that I hope continued eight can continue 84 continue for generations and

84 continue for generations and

84 continue for generations and generations so yeah yeah i mean honestly

generations so yeah yeah i mean honestly

generations so yeah yeah i mean honestly I think you should be really proud of

I think you should be really proud of

I think you should be really proud of what you’re doing you’re having a huge

what you’re doing you’re having a huge

what you’re doing you’re having a huge impact and they were just getting

impact and they were just getting

impact and they were just getting started but but it’s a you’re gonna have

started but but it’s a you’re gonna have

started but but it’s a you’re gonna have a big impact and and I’m happy to have

a big impact and and I’m happy to have

a big impact and and I’m happy to have some you know small little role and

some you know small little role and

some you know small little role and getting your messages so oh it makes it

getting your messages so oh it makes it

getting your messages so oh it makes it it’s uh you know there’s more question

it’s uh you know there’s more question

it’s uh you know there’s more question that will be coming in maybe I’ll

that will be coming in maybe I’ll

that will be coming in maybe I’ll collect them and if there’s enough

collect them and if there’s enough

collect them and if there’s enough coming in we can set up another time

coming in we can set up another time

coming in we can set up another time answer people’s questions and wait all

answer people’s questions and wait all

answer people’s questions and wait all up that’d be fantastic that’d be great

up that’d be fantastic that’d be great

up that’d be fantastic that’d be great alright well I appreciate the time we’ll

alright well I appreciate the time we’ll

alright well I appreciate the time we’ll let you get back to your busy schedule

let you get back to your busy schedule

let you get back to your busy schedule thank you people want to learn more

thank you people want to learn more

thank you people want to learn more about you what’s the best thing just go

about you what’s the best thing just go

about you what’s the best thing just go to an asst comm good honest com maybe if

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lifestyle pieces everything from food to lifestyle DIY the product portfolio is

lifestyle DIY the product portfolio is

lifestyle DIY the product portfolio is growing quite rapidly I think we’re up

growing quite rapidly I think we’re up

growing quite rapidly I think we’re up to almost 90 products and and growing

to almost 90 products and and growing

to almost 90 products and and growing every month so you know keep in tune

every month so you know keep in tune

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christopher underscore gab and and thanks everyone for supporting us it’s a

thanks everyone for supporting us it’s a

thanks everyone for supporting us it’s a true honor and I I really appreciate it

true honor and I I really appreciate it

true honor and I I really appreciate it awesome to end on one last comment that

awesome to end on one last comment that

awesome to end on one last comment that came in so I want to know when Chris was

came in so I want to know when Chris was

came in so I want to know when Chris was writing his book had the chance to read

writing his book had the chance to read

writing his book had the chance to read healthy child healthy world would love

healthy child healthy world would love

healthy child healthy world would love to read one more book from him so you

to read one more book from him so you

to read one more book from him so you put an odd see people want to hear your

put an odd see people want to hear your

put an odd see people want to hear your message are more more here comes thanks

message are more more here comes thanks

message are more more here comes thanks Christopher Frank and I appreciate it

Christopher Frank and I appreciate it

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