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We’re speaking to the wrong people about extremism. | Dan Hett | TEDxManchester


on the evening of the 22nd of May last

on the evening of the 22nd of May last year I’m sure most of you will remember

year I’m sure most of you will remember

year I’m sure most of you will remember where you were I was lying in bed and as

where you were I was lying in bed and as

where you were I was lying in bed and as I’m sure many of you do I was staring

I’m sure many of you do I was staring

I’m sure many of you do I was staring blankly into my smartphone I was about

blankly into my smartphone I was about

blankly into my smartphone I was about to go to sleep when I noticed a sort of

to go to sleep when I noticed a sort of

to go to sleep when I noticed a sort of flurry of messages and tweets start to

flurry of messages and tweets start to

flurry of messages and tweets start to pop up about an accident of some kind in

pop up about an accident of some kind in

pop up about an accident of some kind in the city center banger collision

the city center banger collision

the city center banger collision something like that with social media

something like that with social media

something like that with social media being social media it was mostly just

being social media it was mostly just

being social media it was mostly just guesswork and speculation from everybody

guesswork and speculation from everybody

guesswork and speculation from everybody no one really knew what was going on I’d

no one really knew what was going on I’d

no one really knew what was going on I’d been in the city a few years ago when

been in the city a few years ago when

been in the city a few years ago when the riots had happened and I’d seen the

the riots had happened and I’d seen the

the riots had happened and I’d seen the effects of this kind of guesswork and

effects of this kind of guesswork and

effects of this kind of guesswork and speculation when the facts won’t really

speculation when the facts won’t really

speculation when the facts won’t really know I voiced my opinion and I’ve had it

know I voiced my opinion and I’ve had it

know I voiced my opinion and I’ve had it swearing but what I said was I’d sent a

swearing but what I said was I’d sent a

swearing but what I said was I’d sent a tweet out saying explosions or bangs of

tweet out saying explosions or bangs of

tweet out saying explosions or bangs of some kind happening at Victoria Station

some kind happening at Victoria Station

some kind happening at Victoria Station idiots were already tweeting

idiots were already tweeting

idiots were already tweeting misinformation and conjecture shut up I

misinformation and conjecture shut up I

misinformation and conjecture shut up I hit Send put my phone in silent and went

hit Send put my phone in silent and went

hit Send put my phone in silent and went to sleep and when I woke up I grabbed my

to sleep and when I woke up I grabbed my

to sleep and when I woke up I grabbed my phone to check the time it was about

phone to check the time it was about

phone to check the time it was about 6:00 in the morning and it became very

6:00 in the morning and it became very

6:00 in the morning and it became very obvious straight away that something was

obvious straight away that something was

obvious straight away that something was quite wrong I had hundreds and hundreds

quite wrong I had hundreds and hundreds

quite wrong I had hundreds and hundreds of messages and tweets and dozens of

of messages and tweets and dozens of

of messages and tweets and dozens of missed calls from numbers I didn’t

missed calls from numbers I didn’t

missed calls from numbers I didn’t recognize and it quickly became apparent

recognize and it quickly became apparent

recognize and it quickly became apparent that the worst of the rumors from last

that the worst of the rumors from last

that the worst of the rumors from last night had been true there had been a

night had been true there had been a

night had been true there had been a terrorist attack in Manchester and the

terrorist attack in Manchester and the

terrorist attack in Manchester and the reason that I had been bombarded with so

reason that I had been bombarded with so

reason that I had been bombarded with so many messages was that my younger

many messages was that my younger

many messages was that my younger brother Martin had been at the concert

brother Martin had been at the concert

brother Martin had been at the concert and was missing he’d been at the ariana

and was missing he’d been at the ariana

and was missing he’d been at the ariana grande concert and I initially I was

grande concert and I initially I was

grande concert and I initially I was confused because I will admit fully that

confused because I will admit fully that

confused because I will admit fully that I had never heard of ariana grande I’m

I had never heard of ariana grande I’m

I had never heard of ariana grande I’m sorry

sorry

sorry and for a little while I thought it was

and for a little while I thought it was

and for a little while I thought it was one of his friends called Ariana Grande

one of his friends called Ariana Grande

one of his friends called Ariana Grande and it was like have you tried he was if

and it was like have you tried he was if

and it was like have you tried he was if he was ariana grande’s why don’t you

he was ariana grande’s why don’t you

he was ariana grande’s why don’t you ring Gary Hanna

ring Gary Hanna

ring Gary Hanna we should we knock at her house like

we should we knock at her house like

we should we knock at her house like anything and so what had happened was

anything and so what had happened was

anything and so what had happened was that the explosion had happened at the

that the explosion had happened at the

that the explosion had happened at the very end of the concert after had

very end of the concert after had

very end of the concert after had finished and the last suite the he’d

finished and the last suite the he’d

finished and the last suite the he’d sent we were both prolific Twitter

sent we were both prolific Twitter

sent we were both prolific Twitter abuses

abuses

abuses he wrote a tweet about half-past ten

he wrote a tweet about half-past ten

he wrote a tweet about half-past ten complaining that he’d stuck to the

complaining that he’d stuck to the

complaining that he’d stuck to the toilet during a Macy Gray cover and he

toilet during a Macy Gray cover and he

toilet during a Macy Gray cover and he was moaning that everybody else had had

was moaning that everybody else had had

was moaning that everybody else had had the same idea and that was the last we

the same idea and that was the last we

the same idea and that was the last we heard that day for me and so many people

heard that day for me and so many people

heard that day for me and so many people in this city turned into the longest day

in this city turned into the longest day

in this city turned into the longest day I will ever enjoy my family were rushed

I will ever enjoy my family were rushed

I will ever enjoy my family were rushed with all the other families to the

with all the other families to the

with all the other families to the Etihad football stadium where the police

Etihad football stadium where the police

Etihad football stadium where the police had set up an emergency zone I stayed at

had set up an emergency zone I stayed at

had set up an emergency zone I stayed at home sat on the floor surrounded by

home sat on the floor surrounded by

home sat on the floor surrounded by computers laptops tablets scouring news

computers laptops tablets scouring news

computers laptops tablets scouring news fees for any trace any update had the TV

fees for any trace any update had the TV

fees for any trace any update had the TV news on in the background I was sending

news on in the background I was sending

news on in the background I was sending out his photograph to everybody we just

out his photograph to everybody we just

out his photograph to everybody we just it was just a state of complete panic at

it was just a state of complete panic at

it was just a state of complete panic at the same time my life also became a

the same time my life also became a

the same time my life also became a rolling battle with fairly aggressive

rolling battle with fairly aggressive

rolling battle with fairly aggressive journalists who swamped me with requests

journalists who swamped me with requests

journalists who swamped me with requests for information and for interviews and

for information and for interviews and

for information and for interviews and that sort of thing so we’re going from

that sort of thing so we’re going from

that sort of thing so we’re going from nought to maximum intensity very very

nought to maximum intensity very very

nought to maximum intensity very very quickly a couple turned up my place of

quickly a couple turned up my place of

quickly a couple turned up my place of work as if as if I’d be there and one

work as if as if I’d be there and one

work as if as if I’d be there and one came to my house and pushed a note under

came to my house and pushed a note under

came to my house and pushed a note under the door asking if you get him an

the door asking if you get him an

the door asking if you get him an interview bear in mind this doesn’t seem

interview bear in mind this doesn’t seem

interview bear in mind this doesn’t seem very much now but at the time is any

very much now but at the time is any

very much now but at the time is any knock could have been the police or

knock could have been the police or

knock could have been the police or worse you know by late afternoon we’d

worse you know by late afternoon we’d

worse you know by late afternoon we’d been able to pinpoint his location

been able to pinpoint his location

been able to pinpoint his location fairly well through other people’s

fairly well through other people’s

fairly well through other people’s photographs there were just dozens of

photographs there were just dozens of

photographs there were just dozens of photos of him dancing and drinking and

photos of him dancing and drinking and

photos of him dancing and drinking and partying we knew kind of where he’d been

partying we knew kind of where he’d been

partying we knew kind of where he’d been but we’d not heard anything official as

but we’d not heard anything official as

but we’d not heard anything official as evening drew in we my sisters and I were

evening drew in we my sisters and I were

evening drew in we my sisters and I were bundled into a police car and we were

bundled into a police car and we were

bundled into a police car and we were rushed to the entire stadium with blue

rushed to the entire stadium with blue

rushed to the entire stadium with blue lights on sirens blaring the traffic

lights on sirens blaring the traffic

lights on sirens blaring the traffic passing in front of us a few very

passing in front of us a few very

passing in front of us a few very difficult hours later and all left the

difficult hours later and all left the

difficult hours later and all left the stadium together as a family

stadium together as a family

stadium together as a family carrying the heartbreaking knowledge

carrying the heartbreaking knowledge

carrying the heartbreaking knowledge that Martin had been identified as one

that Martin had been identified as one

that Martin had been identified as one of the 22 people who’d been killed that

of the 22 people who’d been killed that

of the 22 people who’d been killed that day the next

day the next

day the next few days were unbelievably difficult for

few days were unbelievably difficult for

few days were unbelievably difficult for everybody but the way the city rallied

everybody but the way the city rallied

everybody but the way the city rallied together was completely incredible and I

together was completely incredible and I

together was completely incredible and I received more messages of support than I

received more messages of support than I

received more messages of support than I could possibly ever respond to I stood

could possibly ever respond to I stood

could possibly ever respond to I stood with the rest of you and watched Tony

with the rest of you and watched Tony

with the rest of you and watched Tony Walsh hold the city at a complete

Walsh hold the city at a complete

Walsh hold the city at a complete standstill with that electric reading of

standstill with that electric reading of

standstill with that electric reading of this is the place I stood onstage a few

this is the place I stood onstage a few

this is the place I stood onstage a few days later the Deaf Institute sold out

days later the Deaf Institute sold out

days later the Deaf Institute sold out benefit concert trying not to crap cry

benefit concert trying not to crap cry

benefit concert trying not to crap cry in front of the crowd as I sort of

in front of the crowd as I sort of

in front of the crowd as I sort of thanks the city in some way from the

thanks the city in some way from the

thanks the city in some way from the bottom of my heart really um I really

bottom of my heart really um I really

bottom of my heart really um I really feel that the true character of a place

feel that the true character of a place

feel that the true character of a place in his people comes out in a crisis and

in his people comes out in a crisis and

in his people comes out in a crisis and I can honestly say I’ve never been more

I can honestly say I’ve never been more

I can honestly say I’ve never been more fiercely proud to be from this city now

fiercely proud to be from this city now

fiercely proud to be from this city now all of these experiences there’s one

all of these experiences there’s one

all of these experiences there’s one particular one I feel it’s important for

particular one I feel it’s important for

particular one I feel it’s important for me to tell you about it was a few weeks

me to tell you about it was a few weeks

me to tell you about it was a few weeks after everything happened and the police

after everything happened and the police

after everything happened and the police reached out to the family to say that we

reached out to the family to say that we

reached out to the family to say that we would be possible to reach so to visit

would be possible to reach so to visit

would be possible to reach so to visit the arena it was still closed so the

the arena it was still closed so the

the arena it was still closed so the police had control of it and many family

police had control of it and many family

police had control of it and many family said no and many members of my family

said no and many members of my family

said no and many members of my family said no to is a very personal decision

said no to is a very personal decision

said no to is a very personal decision ultimately I decided that I had to know

ultimately I decided that I had to know

ultimately I decided that I had to know I had to see so a few days later I found

I had to see so a few days later I found

I had to see so a few days later I found myself with a few members of my family

myself with a few members of my family

myself with a few members of my family on a average rainy manchester afternoon

on a average rainy manchester afternoon

on a average rainy manchester afternoon standing in the empty and completely

standing in the empty and completely

standing in the empty and completely silent lobby of the Manchester Arena

silent lobby of the Manchester Arena

silent lobby of the Manchester Arena every surface around me was marked by an

every surface around me was marked by an

every surface around me was marked by an uncountable number of shrapnel impacts

uncountable number of shrapnel impacts

uncountable number of shrapnel impacts every glass panel was shattered every

every glass panel was shattered every

every glass panel was shattered every stone wall tile cracked every bit of

stone wall tile cracked every bit of

stone wall tile cracked every bit of metal in the place was punctured and

metal in the place was punctured and

metal in the place was punctured and marked on the floor around me Oh in fact

marked on the floor around me Oh in fact

marked on the floor around me Oh in fact though there was one takeaway image that

though there was one takeaway image that

though there was one takeaway image that will stay with me

will stay with me

will stay with me completely above me there was a single

completely above me there was a single

completely above me there was a single security camera looking down at the

security camera looking down at the

security camera looking down at the center of the room and it’s single s

center of the room and it’s single s

center of the room and it’s single s lens had been shattered by a piece of

lens had been shattered by a piece of

lens had been shattered by a piece of shrapnel and the whole experience was

shrapnel and the whole experience was

shrapnel and the whole experience was images like that that will just stay

images like that that will just stay

images like that that will just stay with you around me on the floor were 22

with you around me on the floor were 22

with you around me on the floor were 22 red roses spread out around the center

red roses spread out around the center

red roses spread out around the center of the attacker I knelt on the floor and

of the attacker I knelt on the floor and

of the attacker I knelt on the floor and put my hand on the polished floor tiles

put my hand on the polished floor tiles

put my hand on the polished floor tiles and underneath my hand the floor sort of

and underneath my hand the floor sort of

and underneath my hand the floor sort of gave way to rough recessed stone and I

gave way to rough recessed stone and I

gave way to rough recessed stone and I knew this to be the exact spot that the

knew this to be the exact spot that the

knew this to be the exact spot that the bomb had been detonated the 22 red roses

bomb had been detonated the 22 red roses

bomb had been detonated the 22 red roses were spread around this point most were

were spread around this point most were

were spread around this point most were in concentric circles around

in concentric circles around

in concentric circles around tacker one or two works impossibly far

tacker one or two works impossibly far

tacker one or two works impossibly far away one of the candles about seven feet

away one of the candles about seven feet

away one of the candles about seven feet away so perhaps from here so there had a

away so perhaps from here so there had a

away so perhaps from here so there had a small candle burning next to it placed

small candle burning next to it placed

small candle burning next to it placed there by the police and I knew the rose

there by the police and I knew the rose

there by the police and I knew the rose that marks where my brother have been

that marks where my brother have been

that marks where my brother have been found now the reason that I’ve described

found now the reason that I’ve described

found now the reason that I’ve described the scene to you today in such detail is

the scene to you today in such detail is

the scene to you today in such detail is that it’s important for me to get across

that it’s important for me to get across

that it’s important for me to get across that I’ve seen in a very literal sense

that I’ve seen in a very literal sense

that I’ve seen in a very literal sense the the devastation that happens when an

the the devastation that happens when an

the the devastation that happens when an attack of this nature happens um it’s

attack of this nature happens um it’s

attack of this nature happens um it’s impossible to comprehend the scale and

impossible to comprehend the scale and

impossible to comprehend the scale and ferocity of an attack until you’ve stood

ferocity of an attack until you’ve stood

ferocity of an attack until you’ve stood in the center of the aftermath and I’d

in the center of the aftermath and I’d

in the center of the aftermath and I’d not consider what it would look like but

not consider what it would look like but

not consider what it would look like but it was completely overwhelming well

it was completely overwhelming well

it was completely overwhelming well despite having been witness to this

despite having been witness to this

despite having been witness to this destruction what I’ve learned through my

destruction what I’ve learned through my

destruction what I’ve learned through my experiences since that day is that the

experiences since that day is that the

experiences since that day is that the true damage of violent extremism extends

true damage of violent extremism extends

true damage of violent extremism extends far far beyond why saw that day our

far far beyond why saw that day our

far far beyond why saw that day our responses as individuals and as

responses as individuals and as

responses as individuals and as communities are quite literally what

communities are quite literally what

communities are quite literally what imbues terrorism with its strength and

imbues terrorism with its strength and

imbues terrorism with its strength and with his power and this isn’t just

with his power and this isn’t just

with his power and this isn’t just speculation and this isn’t just an

speculation and this isn’t just an

speculation and this isn’t just an emotional response the Home Office

emotional response the Home Office

emotional response the Home Office released statistics last year saying the

released statistics last year saying the

released statistics last year saying the hate crimes had risen by 1/3 87 percent

hate crimes had risen by 1/3 87 percent

hate crimes had risen by 1/3 87 percent of those hate crimes had race or

of those hate crimes had race or

of those hate crimes had race or religion as a contributing factor

religion as a contributing factor

religion as a contributing factor it’s an astonishing number bear in mind

it’s an astonishing number bear in mind

it’s an astonishing number bear in mind that these were always conservative

that these were always conservative

that these were always conservative measures as well because an enormous

measures as well because an enormous

measures as well because an enormous number of hate crimes go unreported

number of hate crimes go unreported

number of hate crimes go unreported within this data there were clear spiked

within this data there were clear spiked

within this data there were clear spiked in hate crimes that correspond exactly

in hate crimes that correspond exactly

in hate crimes that correspond exactly with attacks in London this is thousands

with attacks in London this is thousands

with attacks in London this is thousands of retaliations perpetrated upon a

of retaliations perpetrated upon a

of retaliations perpetrated upon a peaceful Muslim population in direct

peaceful Muslim population in direct

peaceful Muslim population in direct response to isolated extremist acts I’ve

response to isolated extremist acts I’ve

response to isolated extremist acts I’ve learned that those who respond to

learned that those who respond to

learned that those who respond to violence with more violence are in fact

violence with more violence are in fact

violence with more violence are in fact doing the least constructive and most

doing the least constructive and most

doing the least constructive and most damage and thing they could possibly do

damage and thing they could possibly do

damage and thing they could possibly do when a gang Gotham folks smash up a

when a gang Gotham folks smash up a

when a gang Gotham folks smash up a mosque when a Muslim family is attacked

mosque when a Muslim family is attacked

mosque when a Muslim family is attacked in their own home this is actually just

in their own home this is actually just

in their own home this is actually just further damage from extremism the damage

further damage from extremism the damage

further damage from extremism the damage is immeasurably wide-ranging and

is immeasurably wide-ranging and

is immeasurably wide-ranging and destructive it’s not just about the bomb

destructive it’s not just about the bomb

destructive it’s not just about the bomb the damage carries on far beyond the

the damage carries on far beyond the

the damage carries on far beyond the person who carried out this attack was

person who carried out this attack was

person who carried out this attack was the son of Libyan immigrants he grew up

the son of Libyan immigrants he grew up

the son of Libyan immigrants he grew up on the same street did the same

on the same street did the same

on the same street did the same situation my brother did my brother and

situation my brother did my brother and

situation my brother did my brother and I are in fact the sons of a Turk

I are in fact the sons of a Turk

I are in fact the sons of a Turk immigrant my mother sounds from bro and

immigrant my mother sounds from bro and

immigrant my mother sounds from bro and my dad is British

my dad is British

my dad is British now the similarities between us we’re

now the similarities between us we’re

now the similarities between us we’re striking even at the very very start

striking even at the very very start

striking even at the very very start because although we led very similar

because although we led very similar

because although we led very similar lives in the same city at some point his

lives in the same city at some point his

lives in the same city at some point his paths diverged into radicalization and

paths diverged into radicalization and

paths diverged into radicalization and extremism and this similarity showed me

extremism and this similarity showed me

extremism and this similarity showed me one thing very clearly that if you use

one thing very clearly that if you use

one thing very clearly that if you use the actions of an extremists to demonize

the actions of an extremists to demonize

the actions of an extremists to demonize Islam or all immigrants you demonize me

Islam or all immigrants you demonize me

Islam or all immigrants you demonize me and my family too and worse you demonize

and my family too and worse you demonize

and my family too and worse you demonize thousands and thousands of innocent

thousands and thousands of innocent

thousands and thousands of innocent people whose only crime is to share a

people whose only crime is to share a

people whose only crime is to share a birthplace or a faith or a culture and

birthplace or a faith or a culture and

birthplace or a faith or a culture and this is why I spoke out now let me say

this is why I spoke out now let me say

this is why I spoke out now let me say very very clearly for those of the back

very very clearly for those of the back

very very clearly for those of the back of my thoughts on this if you use the

of my thoughts on this if you use the

of my thoughts on this if you use the actions of extremists to validate your

actions of extremists to validate your

actions of extremists to validate your prejudice against an inch high an entire

prejudice against an inch high an entire

prejudice against an inch high an entire section of our society that is racism

section of our society that is racism

section of our society that is racism now stop me if you’ve heard this one

now stop me if you’ve heard this one

now stop me if you’ve heard this one before I can’t be racist because Islam

before I can’t be racist because Islam

before I can’t be racist because Islam is not a race I’ve heard this a lot and

is not a race I’ve heard this a lot and

is not a race I’ve heard this a lot and I think you’re splitting hairs is point

I think you’re splitting hairs is point

I think you’re splitting hairs is point really the net result of all this is

really the net result of all this is

really the net result of all this is that Islamophobia is become almost

that Islamophobia is become almost

that Islamophobia is become almost completely normalized for so many now

completely normalized for so many now

completely normalized for so many now let’s look at the other side of the

let’s look at the other side of the

let’s look at the other side of the extremism spectrum in June 2016 Joe Cox

extremism spectrum in June 2016 Joe Cox

extremism spectrum in June 2016 Joe Cox was murdered by a right-wing far-right

was murdered by a right-wing far-right

was murdered by a right-wing far-right neo-nazi extremist on the streets of the

neo-nazi extremist on the streets of the

neo-nazi extremist on the streets of the constituency she served the the

constituency she served the the

constituency she served the the right-wing newspaper that has used his

right-wing newspaper that has used his

right-wing newspaper that has used his pages for decades to demonize Islam and

pages for decades to demonize Islam and

pages for decades to demonize Islam and immigration didn’t report the same in

immigration didn’t report the same in

immigration didn’t report the same in this case instead choosing to describe

this case instead choosing to describe

this case instead choosing to describe the attacker as a loner with a history

the attacker as a loner with a history

the attacker as a loner with a history of mental illness I’m sure you’ve read

of mental illness I’m sure you’ve read

of mental illness I’m sure you’ve read this kind of thing before a few weeks

this kind of thing before a few weeks

this kind of thing before a few weeks later when he was sentenced to life in

later when he was sentenced to life in

later when he was sentenced to life in prison they pushed the story back to

prison they pushed the story back to

prison they pushed the story back to page 30 instead of accurately reporting

page 30 instead of accurately reporting

page 30 instead of accurately reporting the Jews own verdict this attack was

the Jews own verdict this attack was

the Jews own verdict this attack was carried out to further a white

carried out to further a white

carried out to further a white supremacist ideology now as a citizen

supremacist ideology now as a citizen

supremacist ideology now as a citizen I don’t have the power to stop a

I don’t have the power to stop a

I don’t have the power to stop a terrorist attack but as citizens we

terrorist attack but as citizens we

terrorist attack but as citizens we absolutely hold the power to affect

absolutely hold the power to affect

absolutely hold the power to affect change within ourselves in our

change within ourselves in our

change within ourselves in our communities we can fix this my idea

communities we can fix this my idea

communities we can fix this my idea we’re spreading is that although we

under I say this my dear we’re spreading

under I say this my dear we’re spreading I suppose is that we all have the power

I suppose is that we all have the power

I suppose is that we all have the power to change things but we’re speaking to

to change things but we’re speaking to

to change things but we’re speaking to the wrong people about extremism now let

the wrong people about extremism now let

the wrong people about extremism now let me explain since the attack in

me explain since the attack in

me explain since the attack in particular list is taking such a public

particular list is taking such a public

particular list is taking such a public stance as I’m doing now I have spent a

stance as I’m doing now I have spent a

stance as I’m doing now I have spent a long time reading any moments of

long time reading any moments of

long time reading any moments of weakness responding to some of the most

weakness responding to some of the most

weakness responding to some of the most unbelievable abuse and aggressive

unbelievable abuse and aggressive

unbelievable abuse and aggressive commentary let’s say that you can

commentary let’s say that you can

commentary let’s say that you can imagine and it’s I very very quickly

imagine and it’s I very very quickly

imagine and it’s I very very quickly realized that attempting to meaningfully

realized that attempting to meaningfully

realized that attempting to meaningfully engage with these people is completely

engage with these people is completely

engage with these people is completely impossible it is time wasted trying to

impossible it is time wasted trying to

impossible it is time wasted trying to offer counterpoint or argument to a

offer counterpoint or argument to a

offer counterpoint or argument to a viewpoint and it’s just utterly

viewpoint and it’s just utterly

viewpoint and it’s just utterly entrenched in racism and xenophobia is

entrenched in racism and xenophobia is

entrenched in racism and xenophobia is impossible and this isn’t just online I

impossible and this isn’t just online I

impossible and this isn’t just online I was there that night when a prominent

was there that night when a prominent

was there that night when a prominent far-right right commentator chose to

far-right right commentator chose to

far-right right commentator chose to launch his self-published Islamophobic

launch his self-published Islamophobic

launch his self-published Islamophobic book on the streets of Manchester he

book on the streets of Manchester he

book on the streets of Manchester he chose this city our city my city for one

chose this city our city my city for one

chose this city our city my city for one reason alone and was the attacks I was

reason alone and was the attacks I was

reason alone and was the attacks I was there at the counter protest and I heard

there at the counter protest and I heard

there at the counter protest and I heard the same abuse screamed at my face in

the same abuse screamed at my face in

the same abuse screamed at my face in real life and that kind of thing it

real life and that kind of thing it

real life and that kind of thing it really really stays with you now this

really really stays with you now this

really really stays with you now this hostile defense of Britishness is

hostile defense of Britishness is

hostile defense of Britishness is something that pervades a lot of the

something that pervades a lot of the

something that pervades a lot of the argument put forth by the far-right you

argument put forth by the far-right you

argument put forth by the far-right you know taking our country back that kind

know taking our country back that kind

know taking our country back that kind of your kind of deal but I question what

of your kind of deal but I question what

of your kind of deal but I question what it is that they’re defending because I

it is that they’re defending because I

it is that they’re defending because I don’t think it exists for me British

don’t think it exists for me British

don’t think it exists for me British through Britishness is built on a

through Britishness is built on a

through Britishness is built on a foundation of multicultural then

foundation of multicultural then

foundation of multicultural then multiculturalism from our music to our

multiculturalism from our music to our

multiculturalism from our music to our food to our British at eccentricity we

food to our British at eccentricity we

food to our British at eccentricity we are a multicultural society and I feel

are a multicultural society and I feel

are a multicultural society and I feel that genuine national pride is actually

that genuine national pride is actually

that genuine national pride is actually a fine thing but this distorted hostile

a fine thing but this distorted hostile

a fine thing but this distorted hostile nationalism is not that and those who

nationalism is not that and those who

nationalism is not that and those who disagree are labelled as traitors and

disagree are labelled as traitors and

disagree are labelled as traitors and I’ve been called this too recently I

I’ve been called this too recently I

I’ve been called this too recently I would say that surely the real traitors

would say that surely the real traitors

would say that surely the real traitors to this country are those that seek to

to this country are those that seek to

to this country are those that seek to misappropriate subvert or weaponize our

misappropriate subvert or weaponize our

misappropriate subvert or weaponize our values against one another

values against one another

values against one another so we’re thinking about so if this is

so we’re thinking about so if this is

so we’re thinking about so if this is not where the conversation happens

not where the conversation happens

not where the conversation happens and it clearly isn’t than we’re well to

and it clearly isn’t than we’re well to

and it clearly isn’t than we’re well to fix a problem as big as extremism I

fix a problem as big as extremism I

fix a problem as big as extremism I believe that a real deep cultural change

believe that a real deep cultural change

believe that a real deep cultural change is needed and in order to do that we

is needed and in order to do that we

is needed and in order to do that we need to speak to the next generation of

need to speak to the next generation of

need to speak to the next generation of citizens recently I became a founder

citizens recently I became a founder

citizens recently I became a founder member of survivors against terror an

member of survivors against terror an

member of survivors against terror an antique extremism working group formed

antique extremism working group formed

antique extremism working group formed by Brendan Cox and a diverse group of

by Brendan Cox and a diverse group of

by Brendan Cox and a diverse group of others we’ve all been affected by

others we’ve all been affected by

others we’ve all been affected by violent extremism and we aim to use our

violent extremism and we aim to use our

violent extremism and we aim to use our collective voice and experience to

collective voice and experience to

collective voice and experience to affect proper tangible change in our

affect proper tangible change in our

affect proper tangible change in our communities our policies and our support

communities our policies and our support

communities our policies and our support networks discussing these issues openly

networks discussing these issues openly

networks discussing these issues openly with young people is a really really

with young people is a really really

with young people is a really really fundamental part of our work and when I

fundamental part of our work and when I

fundamental part of our work and when I go into these places so schools colleges

go into these places so schools colleges

go into these places so schools colleges I’ve spent a long time doing this now

I’ve spent a long time doing this now

I’ve spent a long time doing this now and when I go into these places I don’t

and when I go into these places I don’t

and when I go into these places I don’t have slides I don’t have a script

have slides I don’t have a script

have slides I don’t have a script I converse with students I don’t talk at

I converse with students I don’t talk at

I converse with students I don’t talk at students and this is an incredibly

students and this is an incredibly

students and this is an incredibly important distinction that so many are

important distinction that so many are

important distinction that so many are not making I found without fail that

not making I found without fail that

not making I found without fail that these students are just surprised to not

these students are just surprised to not

these students are just surprised to not be spoken down to discount young people

be spoken down to discount young people

be spoken down to discount young people at your peril and and they’re just happy

at your peril and and they’re just happy

at your peril and and they’re just happy to be engaged in what’s quite a frank

to be engaged in what’s quite a frank

to be engaged in what’s quite a frank and honest discussion about these issues

and honest discussion about these issues

and honest discussion about these issues which is something that often they don’t

which is something that often they don’t

which is something that often they don’t get and I found that they’re hungry for

get and I found that they’re hungry for

get and I found that they’re hungry for information for context and for balanced

information for context and for balanced

information for context and for balanced insight from other resources because

insight from other resources because

insight from other resources because quite often people young people in

quite often people young people in

quite often people young people in particular are receiving their info from

particular are receiving their info from

particular are receiving their info from singular sources which is either the

singular sources which is either the

singular sources which is either the press you have their own agenda or from

press you have their own agenda or from

press you have their own agenda or from those in the argument that shout the

those in the argument that shout the

those in the argument that shout the loudest which is not the right balance

loudest which is not the right balance

loudest which is not the right balance whatsoever and when a person receives

whatsoever and when a person receives

whatsoever and when a person receives all their information from just from

all their information from just from

all their information from just from single sources then in the worst cases

single sources then in the worst cases

single sources then in the worst cases that’s where extremism comes from and in

that’s where extremism comes from and in

that’s where extremism comes from and in their enthusiasm to engage with what is

their enthusiasm to engage with what is

their enthusiasm to engage with what is an extremely difficult thing to talk

an extremely difficult thing to talk

an extremely difficult thing to talk openly about I see one thing I see

openly about I see one thing I see

openly about I see one thing I see change those potential there or put this

change those potential there or put this

change those potential there or put this another way and if you take anything

another way and if you take anything

another way and if you take anything away today make it this bit imagine a

away today make it this bit imagine a

away today make it this bit imagine a scenario in which the radicalize young

scenario in which the radicalize young

scenario in which the radicalize young man who carried out this attack on this

man who carried out this attack on this

man who carried out this attack on this city had been exposed to voices other

city had been exposed to voices other

city had been exposed to voices other than those that led him from the path

than those that led him from the path

than those that led him from the path what happened in this city was a tragedy

what happened in this city was a tragedy

what happened in this city was a tragedy of unimaginable proportions for so many

of unimaginable proportions for so many

of unimaginable proportions for so many of us and we cannot let this legacy be

of us and we cannot let this legacy be

of us and we cannot let this legacy be more hatred and division between us we

more hatred and division between us we

more hatred and division between us we just can’t

just can’t

just can’t it’s losing someone for me to realize

it’s losing someone for me to realize

it’s losing someone for me to realize that we all have a stake in this and

that we all have a stake in this and

that we all have a stake in this and that we all have the ability to change

that we all have the ability to change

that we all have the ability to change things really change things my brother’s

things really change things my brother’s

things really change things my brother’s name was mine and he seized every moment

name was mine and he seized every moment

name was mine and he seized every moment and my tribute to him will absolutely be

and my tribute to him will absolutely be

and my tribute to him will absolutely be to do the same Thank You Manchester

to do the same Thank You Manchester

to do the same Thank You Manchester [Applause]

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