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my name is Kevin Crider and I have a

my name is Kevin Crider and I have a confession to make I’m not Irish a

confession to make I’m not Irish a

confession to make I’m not Irish a German um a Korean American adoptee and

German um a Korean American adoptee and

German um a Korean American adoptee and I’m horrible with math and growing up I

I’m horrible with math and growing up I

I’m horrible with math and growing up I want it to be white yeah that’s right I

want it to be white yeah that’s right I

want it to be white yeah that’s right I want it to be white because stereotypes

want it to be white because stereotypes

want it to be white because stereotypes are powerful it led me to isolation

are powerful it led me to isolation

are powerful it led me to isolation depression feeling of a lone self-hatred

stereotypes I was asked to be part of

stereotypes I was asked to be part of this documentary on Asian men and what

this documentary on Asian men and what

this documentary on Asian men and what it was like to be a fitness coach and a

it was like to be a fitness coach and a

it was like to be a fitness coach and a model growing up in a white community

model growing up in a white community

model growing up in a white community and first of all was to Asian women who

and first of all was to Asian women who

and first of all was to Asian women who asked me and I was shocked because Asian

asked me and I was shocked because Asian

asked me and I was shocked because Asian women they didn’t want to hear about

women they didn’t want to hear about

women they didn’t want to hear about being stripped away of your sexuality or

being stripped away of your sexuality or

being stripped away of your sexuality or the stereotypes that came with an Asian

the stereotypes that came with an Asian

the stereotypes that came with an Asian male in America so why now I was

male in America so why now I was

male in America so why now I was hesitant but then I shared my story I

came from a loving adoptive family but I

came from a loving adoptive family but I soon found out the outside world is not

soon found out the outside world is not

soon found out the outside world is not as loving my first memory of remembering

as loving my first memory of remembering

as loving my first memory of remembering that I wasn’t white was being in

that I wasn’t white was being in

that I wasn’t white was being in kindergarten there’s this Italian kid

kindergarten there’s this Italian kid

kindergarten there’s this Italian kid going around going ching chang chong

going around going ching chang chong

going around going ching chang chong jack jack should you chinese you’re

jack jack should you chinese you’re

jack jack should you chinese you’re chinese laughing going around

chinese laughing going around

chinese laughing going around single-handedly pointing me out

single-handedly pointing me out

single-handedly pointing me out immediately I was shocked into reality I

immediately I was shocked into reality I

immediately I was shocked into reality I am not like you and that kept going on

anybody know who Bruce Lee is what’s the

anybody know who Bruce Lee is what’s the first thing you think of it’s the first

first thing you think of it’s the first

first thing you think of it’s the first thing Bruce Lee was used to shame me

thing Bruce Lee was used to shame me

thing Bruce Lee was used to shame me when I was growing up kids would take me

when I was growing up kids would take me

when I was growing up kids would take me in the schoolyard bully me what stop

in the schoolyard bully me what stop

in the schoolyard bully me what stop Bruce Lee don’t know karate

Bruce Lee don’t know karate

Bruce Lee don’t know karate no beating up in the schoolyard mocked

no beating up in the schoolyard mocked

no beating up in the schoolyard mocked told I was making native noises I was

told I was making native noises I was

told I was making native noises I was really quiet growing up I don’t know

really quiet growing up I don’t know

really quiet growing up I don’t know where they got that from then fast

where they got that from then fast

where they got that from then fast forward to asking girls out on dates

forward to asking girls out on dates

forward to asking girls out on dates this part’s fun sixth grade I asked a

this part’s fun sixth grade I asked a

this part’s fun sixth grade I asked a girl to dance and she says hmm I’m not

girl to dance and she says hmm I’m not

girl to dance and she says hmm I’m not an Asian guys

an Asian guys

an Asian guys okay let me walk that one off

okay let me walk that one off

okay let me walk that one off well maybe white people just date white

well maybe white people just date white

well maybe white people just date white people right then I figured let me ask

people right then I figured let me ask

people right then I figured let me ask an Asian girl out maybe she’ll say yes

an Asian girl out maybe she’ll say yes

an Asian girl out maybe she’ll say yes hey you want to go to this dance with me

hey you want to go to this dance with me

hey you want to go to this dance with me sorry I don’t find Asian guys attractive

sorry I don’t find Asian guys attractive

sorry I don’t find Asian guys attractive Wow

Wow

Wow okay I remember when that first happened

okay I remember when that first happened

okay I remember when that first happened I said to myself why is that that Asian

I said to myself why is that that Asian

I said to myself why is that that Asian guys aren’t seen attractive why am i

guys aren’t seen attractive why am i

guys aren’t seen attractive why am i clumped into this group of people that

clumped into this group of people that

clumped into this group of people that are seen as effeminate stereotypical in

are seen as effeminate stereotypical in

are seen as effeminate stereotypical in math and science and skinny and weak and

math and science and skinny and weak and

math and science and skinny and weak and quiet and when this happened repeated

quiet and when this happened repeated

quiet and when this happened repeated repetitively it became ingrained in me

repetitively it became ingrained in me

repetitively it became ingrained in me all of a sudden I started to believe the

all of a sudden I started to believe the

all of a sudden I started to believe the perceptions that people had of me

perceptions that people had of me

perceptions that people had of me it’s called conditioning I was

it’s called conditioning I was

it’s called conditioning I was conditioned to believe this and then I

conditioned to believe this and then I

conditioned to believe this and then I got mad I got angry at these Asian women

got mad I got angry at these Asian women

got mad I got angry at these Asian women because I was so hurt but I didn’t know

because I was so hurt but I didn’t know

because I was so hurt but I didn’t know how to express myself so what do I do I

how to express myself so what do I do I

how to express myself so what do I do I strip away everything that I could of

strip away everything that I could of

strip away everything that I could of any Asian identity Asian men were seen

any Asian identity Asian men were seen

any Asian identity Asian men were seen as skinny and weak guess what I’m gonna

as skinny and weak guess what I’m gonna

as skinny and weak guess what I’m gonna hit the gym

hit the gym

hit the gym lift get stronger and guess what that

lift get stronger and guess what that

lift get stronger and guess what that worked girls started to say hey man I

worked girls started to say hey man I

worked girls started to say hey man I didn’t know they made Asian guys like

didn’t know they made Asian guys like

didn’t know they made Asian guys like you guys stop calling me chink and

you guys stop calling me chink and

you guys stop calling me chink and Chinaman didn’t do this anymore

Chinaman didn’t do this anymore

Chinaman didn’t do this anymore I started to become part of something

I started to become part of something

I started to become part of something but then I would tell Asian girls I’m

but then I would tell Asian girls I’m

but then I would tell Asian girls I’m not really attracted to you who are you

dated only white girls for a while

dated only white girls for a while made me feel good because I felt like an

made me feel good because I felt like an

made me feel good because I felt like an inferior race my whole life and when I

inferior race my whole life and when I

inferior race my whole life and when I could date a white girl it made me feel

could date a white girl it made me feel

could date a white girl it made me feel like I was part of them but then there

like I was part of them but then there

like I was part of them but then there was this constant tug-of-war don’t quite

was this constant tug-of-war don’t quite

was this constant tug-of-war don’t quite fit here don’t quite fit here I’m not

fit here don’t quite fit here I’m not

fit here don’t quite fit here I’m not part of the white community but I’m also

part of the white community but I’m also

part of the white community but I’m also not

not

not part of this community either and I

part of this community either and I

part of this community either and I started to do something that I hate it

started to do something that I hate it

started to do something that I hate it which is I then became that bully I

which is I then became that bully I

which is I then became that bully I started to look down on Asian guys pick

started to look down on Asian guys pick

started to look down on Asian guys pick on them why aren’t you fill in the blank

on them why aren’t you fill in the blank

on them why aren’t you fill in the blank I started to really hate the person I

I started to really hate the person I

I started to really hate the person I was becoming but guess what that’s what

was becoming but guess what that’s what

was becoming but guess what that’s what everybody else was doing let’s just get

everybody else was doing let’s just get

everybody else was doing let’s just get in all the fun right it’s just a joke

wasn’t funny to me but that’s what I did

wasn’t funny to me but that’s what I did to assimilate the blend in every time I

to assimilate the blend in every time I

to assimilate the blend in every time I would try to share the these feelings

would try to share the these feelings

would try to share the these feelings that I had of resentments and being the

that I had of resentments and being the

that I had of resentments and being the stereotypical Asian guy people would

stereotypical Asian guy people would

stereotypical Asian guy people would tell me it’s like well at least you

tell me it’s like well at least you

tell me it’s like well at least you don’t have the black stereotypes I’m

don’t have the black stereotypes I’m

don’t have the black stereotypes I’m like that’s supposed to make me feel

like that’s supposed to make me feel

like that’s supposed to make me feel better

better

better it’s called marginalizing just because

it’s called marginalizing just because

it’s called marginalizing just because it’s not as bad as this you have no

it’s not as bad as this you have no

it’s not as bad as this you have no reason to talk we are the model

reason to talk we are the model

reason to talk we are the model minorities we are the best of the

minorities we are the best of the

minorities we are the best of the minorities that’s what we were told we

minorities that’s what we were told we

minorities that’s what we were told we have nothing to complain about so I shut

have nothing to complain about so I shut

have nothing to complain about so I shut down I stopped talking about it maybe

down I stopped talking about it maybe

down I stopped talking about it maybe there is something wrong but then things

there is something wrong but then things

there is something wrong but then things started to change I saw my first I guess

started to change I saw my first I guess

started to change I saw my first I guess you can call it a man crush but he was

you can call it a man crush but he was

you can call it a man crush but he was an Asian guy who was signed by Ford

an Asian guy who was signed by Ford

an Asian guy who was signed by Ford models and he was tall handsome guy and

models and he was tall handsome guy and

models and he was tall handsome guy and he was gonna make it and I was like wow

he was gonna make it and I was like wow

he was gonna make it and I was like wow finally a sex symbol if he can inspire

finally a sex symbol if he can inspire

finally a sex symbol if he can inspire me to feel good about the way I look at

me to feel good about the way I look at

me to feel good about the way I look at my identity maybe I can do the same so I

my identity maybe I can do the same so I

my identity maybe I can do the same so I go up to New York I start this modeling

go up to New York I start this modeling

go up to New York I start this modeling career modeling has its own barriers

career modeling has its own barriers

career modeling has its own barriers while other people are going out I’m

while other people are going out I’m

while other people are going out I’m sitting at home alone castings aren’t

sitting at home alone castings aren’t

sitting at home alone castings aren’t right for me I can go wait too many

right for me I can go wait too many

right for me I can go wait too many details over this but something that

details over this but something that

details over this but something that happens to me I get very very consumed

happens to me I get very very consumed

happens to me I get very very consumed with a lot of self-hatred it’s

with a lot of self-hatred it’s

with a lot of self-hatred it’s exhausting hating yourself let me tell

exhausting hating yourself let me tell

exhausting hating yourself let me tell you drugs and alcohol that’s part of my

you drugs and alcohol that’s part of my

you drugs and alcohol that’s part of my story covered up the pain that I was

story covered up the pain that I was

story covered up the pain that I was feeling because when

feeling because when

feeling because when drinking I was part of you guys

drinking I was part of you guys

drinking I was part of you guys especially st. Patty’s Day oh yes I’m

especially st. Patty’s Day oh yes I’m

especially st. Patty’s Day oh yes I’m Kevin I’m one of you looks ridiculous by

Kevin I’m one of you looks ridiculous by

Kevin I’m one of you looks ridiculous by the way I don’t recommend it but that’s

the way I don’t recommend it but that’s

the way I don’t recommend it but that’s what happened I started to hate myself

what happened I started to hate myself

what happened I started to hate myself stress starts really hit at me

stress starts really hit at me

stress starts really hit at me depression isolation dating the wrong

depression isolation dating the wrong

depression isolation dating the wrong girls for the wrong reasons and then it

girls for the wrong reasons and then it

girls for the wrong reasons and then it hits me

hits me

hits me it’s called alopecia areata it’s an

it’s called alopecia areata it’s an

it’s called alopecia areata it’s an autoimmune disease stressed induced hair

autoimmune disease stressed induced hair

autoimmune disease stressed induced hair loss it’s not a good look for a model

loss it’s not a good look for a model

loss it’s not a good look for a model especially for an asian guy I was now

especially for an asian guy I was now

especially for an asian guy I was now the Buddha and Professor Xavier talked

the Buddha and Professor Xavier talked

the Buddha and Professor Xavier talked about not feeling attractive and then

about not feeling attractive and then

about not feeling attractive and then losing that making you feel even less

losing that making you feel even less

losing that making you feel even less attractive I would say that was my rock

attractive I would say that was my rock

attractive I would say that was my rock bottom in my life and what I did was

bottom in my life and what I did was

bottom in my life and what I did was decided to do this crazy journey

decided to do this crazy journey

decided to do this crazy journey soul-searching picked up a skateboard by

soul-searching picked up a skateboard by

soul-searching picked up a skateboard by the way I didn’t know how to skateboard

the way I didn’t know how to skateboard

the way I didn’t know how to skateboard at this time I’m gonna skateboard across

at this time I’m gonna skateboard across

at this time I’m gonna skateboard across the country some people said that’s far

the country some people said that’s far

the country some people said that’s far as gum ping it’s great movie watch with

as gum ping it’s great movie watch with

as gum ping it’s great movie watch with my mom all the time

my mom all the time

my mom all the time maybe that’s where I got the idea from

maybe that’s where I got the idea from

maybe that’s where I got the idea from but I figured if I can survive this

but I figured if I can survive this

but I figured if I can survive this journey then I’ll get the confidence the

journey then I’ll get the confidence the

journey then I’ll get the confidence the self-esteem that maybe I was looking for

self-esteem that maybe I was looking for

self-esteem that maybe I was looking for I can overcome everything or I’ll die

I can overcome everything or I’ll die

I can overcome everything or I’ll die either one was a good option for me but

either one was a good option for me but

either one was a good option for me but guess what the third option happened

guess what the third option happened

guess what the third option happened which was I lived and I didn’t get that

which was I lived and I didn’t get that

which was I lived and I didn’t get that fulfillment I want it there was this

fulfillment I want it there was this

fulfillment I want it there was this burning hole in me that felt empty I

burning hole in me that felt empty I

burning hole in me that felt empty I felt like nobody understood me I had to

felt like nobody understood me I had to

felt like nobody understood me I had to change my accident because I was hating

change my accident because I was hating

change my accident because I was hating the person I was becoming I had to

the person I was becoming I had to

the person I was becoming I had to change my actions so I could change my

change my actions so I could change my

change my actions so I could change my projectory of who I was and who I was

projectory of who I was and who I was

projectory of who I was and who I was becoming and I’m sharing with you three

becoming and I’m sharing with you three

becoming and I’m sharing with you three things that I did that changed my life

things that I did that changed my life

things that I did that changed my life the

the

the was to create a safe space an

was to create a safe space an

was to create a safe space an environment for Asian men to talk about

environment for Asian men to talk about

environment for Asian men to talk about this

this

this we’ve been marginalized we’ve been told

we’ve been marginalized we’ve been told

we’ve been marginalized we’ve been told to shut it for a long time by my parents

to shut it for a long time by my parents

to shut it for a long time by my parents – even at times I remember I was being

– even at times I remember I was being

– even at times I remember I was being called a banana growing up yellow on the

called a banana growing up yellow on the

called a banana growing up yellow on the inside white on the outside it’s a lot

inside white on the outside it’s a lot

inside white on the outside it’s a lot of pride in that actually I was like yes

of pride in that actually I was like yes

of pride in that actually I was like yes I’m a banana then I watch this movie

I’m a banana then I watch this movie

I’m a banana then I watch this movie breakfast and Tiffany’s anybody hear

breakfast and Tiffany’s anybody hear

breakfast and Tiffany’s anybody hear that old American classic good old

that old American classic good old

that old American classic good old Mickey Rourke thought I could handle

Mickey Rourke thought I could handle

Mickey Rourke thought I could handle this one because I’m like I’m a Twinkie

this one because I’m like I’m a Twinkie

this one because I’m like I’m a Twinkie you know yellow but I’m not really one

you know yellow but I’m not really one

you know yellow but I’m not really one of them then I saw his portrayal of

of them then I saw his portrayal of

of them then I saw his portrayal of Asian men and immediately I felt shamed

Asian men and immediately I felt shamed

Asian men and immediately I felt shamed I was not happy with what I saw and I

I was not happy with what I saw and I

I was not happy with what I saw and I felt horrible about myself and I

felt horrible about myself and I

felt horrible about myself and I realized that people’s perceptions of

realized that people’s perceptions of

realized that people’s perceptions of Asian men come from things like this the

Asian men come from things like this the

Asian men come from things like this the way we treat each other and I let it

way we treat each other and I let it

way we treat each other and I let it happen

happen

happen but then people tell you don’t take it

but then people tell you don’t take it

but then people tell you don’t take it so seriously Kevin but I didn’t get the

so seriously Kevin but I didn’t get the

so seriously Kevin but I didn’t get the joke and I really thought I would then I

joke and I really thought I would then I

joke and I really thought I would then I go to a basketball game and I meet this

go to a basketball game and I meet this

go to a basketball game and I meet this guy named Jeremy Lin Lin sanity what a

guy named Jeremy Lin Lin sanity what a

guy named Jeremy Lin Lin sanity what a guy hey Jerry Jeremy Jeremy I got a

guy hey Jerry Jeremy Jeremy I got a

guy hey Jerry Jeremy Jeremy I got a question did you ever come across that

question did you ever come across that

question did you ever come across that stereotype that Asian guys aren’t

stereotype that Asian guys aren’t

stereotype that Asian guys aren’t attractive little awkward laughs yeah I

attractive little awkward laughs yeah I

attractive little awkward laughs yeah I think they were expecting me to like ask

think they were expecting me to like ask

think they were expecting me to like ask him how he liked dribbles and does all

him how he liked dribbles and does all

him how he liked dribbles and does all that stuff and he’s like yeah and he

that stuff and he’s like yeah and he

that stuff and he’s like yeah and he shared a little bit you said that Asian

shared a little bit you said that Asian

shared a little bit you said that Asian women yes are over sexualized Asian men

women yes are over sexualized Asian men

women yes are over sexualized Asian men we don’t get the chance to talk about it

we don’t get the chance to talk about it

we don’t get the chance to talk about it and he said we need to be able to speak

and he said we need to be able to speak

and he said we need to be able to speak about it and not feel shamed about it

about it and not feel shamed about it

about it and not feel shamed about it and also to not to point fingers either

and also to not to point fingers either

and also to not to point fingers either not to be resentful or blame other

not to be resentful or blame other

not to be resentful or blame other people as well take responsibility for

people as well take responsibility for

people as well take responsibility for ourselves

ourselves

ourselves so I started doing that I started to

so I started doing that I started to

so I started doing that I started to create these communities I joined the

create these communities I joined the

create these communities I joined the American adoption Association I started

American adoption Association I started

American adoption Association I started to date Asian girls and guess what my

to date Asian girls and guess what my

to date Asian girls and guess what my life changed I started to feel like a

life changed I started to feel like a

life changed I started to feel like a part of something instead of separate

the next thing I did I know this is

the next thing I did I know this is gonna sound hokey but I had to forgive

gonna sound hokey but I had to forgive

gonna sound hokey but I had to forgive myself I had to forgive the person I was

myself I had to forgive the person I was

myself I had to forgive the person I was becoming the bully that I hated and I

becoming the bully that I hated and I

becoming the bully that I hated and I learned through this documentary through

learned through this documentary through

learned through this documentary through academia that this experience that I

academia that this experience that I

academia that this experience that I have these feelings are absolutely

have these feelings are absolutely

have these feelings are absolutely normal this is what happens with

normal this is what happens with

normal this is what happens with stereotypes this is what happens to

stereotypes this is what happens to

stereotypes this is what happens to people growing up who don’t feel

people growing up who don’t feel

people growing up who don’t feel confident about their self-identity

confident about their self-identity

confident about their self-identity their self-worth their self-image they

their self-worth their self-image they

their self-worth their self-image they feel inferior this is what happens I

feel inferior this is what happens I

feel inferior this is what happens I said to myself if I’m not alone why

said to myself if I’m not alone why

said to myself if I’m not alone why don’t more people know about this and

don’t more people know about this and

don’t more people know about this and why aren’t more people coming out like

why aren’t more people coming out like

why aren’t more people coming out like this and I had to forgive myself because

this and I had to forgive myself because

this and I had to forgive myself because I didn’t know I just thought I was doing

I didn’t know I just thought I was doing

I didn’t know I just thought I was doing the best thing I could to just blend in

the best thing I could to just blend in

the best thing I could to just blend in just get by

just get by

just get by and then the Asian women I go back to

and then the Asian women I go back to

and then the Asian women I go back to that but they were the ones who hurt me

that but they were the ones who hurt me

that but they were the ones who hurt me the most and I realized that they too

the most and I realized that they too

the most and I realized that they too were just going through the same stuff I

were just going through the same stuff I

were just going through the same stuff I was and they were doing the best that

was and they were doing the best that

was and they were doing the best that they could and when I realized that I

they could and when I realized that I

they could and when I realized that I was able to forgive them and then the

was able to forgive them and then the

was able to forgive them and then the final action was to give it back to

final action was to give it back to

final action was to give it back to mentor people to mentor other Asian men

mentor people to mentor other Asian men

mentor people to mentor other Asian men to say you are not alone in this that I

to say you are not alone in this that I

to say you are not alone in this that I felt the same way that we don’t have to

felt the same way that we don’t have to

felt the same way that we don’t have to go through this together but that we can

go through this together but that we can

go through this together but that we can redefine what being an Asian male is for

redefine what being an Asian male is for

redefine what being an Asian male is for us not let movies media and other people

us not let movies media and other people

us not let movies media and other people the way they treat us the perceptions we

the way they treat us the perceptions we

the way they treat us the perceptions we don’t have to let that define who we are

don’t have to let that define who we are

don’t have to let that define who we are and our value that we can bring to

and our value that we can bring to

and our value that we can bring to society if there’s anything anything I

society if there’s anything anything I

society if there’s anything anything I got from this and anything I want you to

got from this and anything I want you to

got from this and anything I want you to take from this is that I actually didn’t

take from this is that I actually didn’t

take from this is that I actually didn’t want to be white I just wanted to be

want to be white I just wanted to be

want to be white I just wanted to be treated like I was white

can give wholeheartedly be vulnerable

can give wholeheartedly be vulnerable share love receive love be limitless in

share love receive love be limitless in

share love receive love be limitless in what they do to their communities and

what they do to their communities and

what they do to their communities and for their communities not because of a

for their communities not because of a

for their communities not because of a stereotype and I also imagine world

stereotype and I also imagine world

stereotype and I also imagine world where Asian men can be cool he’s seen as

where Asian men can be cool he’s seen as

where Asian men can be cool he’s seen as cool sexy fun just like any other race

I’m Gavin Crider and that’s my story

I’m Gavin Crider and that’s my story thank you

thank you

thank you [Applause]

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