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Don’t let your phone tell you how to eat | Louise Gray | TEDxUniversityofEdinburgh


[Applause]

[Applause] have you noticed how people introduce

have you noticed how people introduce

have you noticed how people introduce themselves nowadays if you go to a party

themselves nowadays if you go to a party

themselves nowadays if you go to a party or someone new arrives at work you walk

or someone new arrives at work you walk

or someone new arrives at work you walk into a room and say something like hi

into a room and say something like hi

into a room and say something like hi I’m Astor really into snowboarding and

I’m Astor really into snowboarding and

I’m Astor really into snowboarding and vegan or hello I’m Carolyn I’m from

vegan or hello I’m Carolyn I’m from

vegan or hello I’m Carolyn I’m from Singapore I’m a graphic designer and I’m

Singapore I’m a graphic designer and I’m

Singapore I’m a graphic designer and I’m paleo this is my girlfriend Judy she’s a

paleo this is my girlfriend Judy she’s a

paleo this is my girlfriend Judy she’s a free diver and she’s pescetarian already

free diver and she’s pescetarian already

free diver and she’s pescetarian already you are making judgments about these

you are making judgments about these

you are making judgments about these people based on what they eat just like

people based on what they eat just like

people based on what they eat just like we wear name badges a conference like

we wear name badges a conference like

we wear name badges a conference like this our food choices our label we use

this our food choices our label we use

this our food choices our label we use to show people who we are so today I

to show people who we are so today I

to show people who we are so today I want to ask how should we eat how should

want to ask how should we eat how should

want to ask how should we eat how should we introduce ourselves to the rest of

we introduce ourselves to the rest of

we introduce ourselves to the rest of the world I’m really interested in food

the world I’m really interested in food

the world I’m really interested in food and the impact I have on the planet so I

and the impact I have on the planet so I

and the impact I have on the planet so I know what we shouldn’t eat we probably

know what we shouldn’t eat we probably

know what we shouldn’t eat we probably shouldn’t eat too much meat I’m sure

shouldn’t eat too much meat I’m sure

shouldn’t eat too much meat I’m sure those of you who watch a lot of TED

those of you who watch a lot of TED

those of you who watch a lot of TED talks on the environment have seen this

talks on the environment have seen this

talks on the environment have seen this slide before it shows that the

slide before it shows that the

slide before it shows that the proportion of the world’s global

proportion of the world’s global

proportion of the world’s global emissions from livestock that’s the

emissions from livestock that’s the

emissions from livestock that’s the energy used to raise a cow as well as

energy used to raise a cow as well as

energy used to raise a cow as well as the methane that comes out the front

the methane that comes out the front

the methane that comes out the front back ends makes up more than all the

back ends makes up more than all the

back ends makes up more than all the world’s transport put together as an

world’s transport put together as an

world’s transport put together as an environmental writer this concerns me a

environmental writer this concerns me a

environmental writer this concerns me a great deal if I want to save the planet

great deal if I want to save the planet

great deal if I want to save the planet and I do

and I do

and I do I should be vegetarian right it’s a

I should be vegetarian right it’s a

I should be vegetarian right it’s a no-brainer

no-brainer

no-brainer but I’m also a farmer’s daughter and I

but I’m also a farmer’s daughter and I

but I’m also a farmer’s daughter and I see a lot of people I love raising

see a lot of people I love raising

see a lot of people I love raising livestock with care for the environment

livestock with care for the environment

livestock with care for the environment and for the welfare of those

and for the welfare of those

and for the welfare of those I’ve also seen examples where animals

I’ve also seen examples where animals

I’ve also seen examples where animals would be controlled like Red Deer to

would be controlled like Red Deer to

would be controlled like Red Deer to allow the regeneration of the forest I’m

allow the regeneration of the forest I’m

allow the regeneration of the forest I’m happy eating what I consider to be

happy eating what I consider to be

happy eating what I consider to be ethical meat like that so I decided I

ethical meat like that so I decided I

ethical meat like that so I decided I only want to eat meat like that and the

only want to eat meat like that and the

only want to eat meat like that and the best way to make sure is to only eat

best way to make sure is to only eat

best way to make sure is to only eat animals I’d kill myself I’ll give you a

animals I’d kill myself I’ll give you a

animals I’d kill myself I’ll give you a minute to take that in the pretty

minute to take that in the pretty

minute to take that in the pretty radical move I did it for two years and

radical move I did it for two years and

radical move I did it for two years and I learned a lot I learned what it’s like

I learned a lot I learned what it’s like

I learned a lot I learned what it’s like to shoot and skin and gut and eat a

to shoot and skin and gut and eat a

to shoot and skin and gut and eat a rabbit and I learned what it’s like to

rabbit and I learned what it’s like to

rabbit and I learned what it’s like to sit in a wood crying because you’ve

sit in a wood crying because you’ve

sit in a wood crying because you’ve caused the death of an animal and to

caused the death of an animal and to

caused the death of an animal and to take responsibility for the meat we eat

take responsibility for the meat we eat

take responsibility for the meat we eat the biggest animal are killed with a

the biggest animal are killed with a

the biggest animal are killed with a stag with my father and I learned a lot

stag with my father and I learned a lot

stag with my father and I learned a lot about myself about my relationship with

about myself about my relationship with

about myself about my relationship with nature and about my dad too

nature and about my dad too

nature and about my dad too I also visited farms around the country

I also visited farms around the country

I also visited farms around the country in Europe to see how we raise animals

in Europe to see how we raise animals

in Europe to see how we raise animals and I visited abattoirs to see how we

and I visited abattoirs to see how we

and I visited abattoirs to see how we slaughter analyst and there’s no nice

slaughter analyst and there’s no nice

slaughter analyst and there’s no nice way to describe that but that’s the

way to describe that but that’s the

way to describe that but that’s the reality of where our meat comes from and

reality of where our meat comes from and

reality of where our meat comes from and I felt people ought to know at the end

I felt people ought to know at the end

I felt people ought to know at the end of all all I wrote a book called the

of all all I wrote a book called the

of all all I wrote a book called the ethical carnivore and my conclusion was

ethical carnivore and my conclusion was

ethical carnivore and my conclusion was we should all be eating less and better

we should all be eating less and better

we should all be eating less and better meat I think it struck a chord it did

meat I think it struck a chord it did

meat I think it struck a chord it did quite well people do want to know where

quite well people do want to know where

quite well people do want to know where their meat is from and then this strange

their meat is from and then this strange

their meat is from and then this strange things started to happen people started

things started to happen people started

things started to happen people started coming up to me and saying please

coming up to me and saying please

coming up to me and saying please how should I eat and I’m like I don’t

how should I eat and I’m like I don’t

how should I eat and I’m like I don’t know I’m just happy I’m a journalist a

know I’m just happy I’m a journalist a

know I’m just happy I’m a journalist a nutritionist I’m gonna share I’m not

nutritionist I’m gonna share I’m not

nutritionist I’m gonna share I’m not even a particularly good cook and some

even a particularly good cook and some

even a particularly good cook and some dishes but you know and I realized

dishes but you know and I realized

dishes but you know and I realized they’re frightened

they’re frightened

they’re frightened they’re scared it’s a scary world food

they’re scared it’s a scary world food

they’re scared it’s a scary world food is the only thing you can control so I

is the only thing you can control so I

is the only thing you can control so I thought maybe I can’t think of some

thought maybe I can’t think of some

thought maybe I can’t think of some labels things like weekday vegetarian

labels things like weekday vegetarian

labels things like weekday vegetarian displays itself with G cetera you’re

displays itself with G cetera you’re

displays itself with G cetera you’re reducing your meat or flexitarian as she

reducing your meat or flexitarian as she

reducing your meat or flexitarian as she packs of heard of but I just don’t feel

packs of heard of but I just don’t feel

packs of heard of but I just don’t feel comfortable with labels how many

comfortable with labels how many

comfortable with labels how many students you know who don’t get up

students you know who don’t get up

students you know who don’t get up before 11 a.m.

before 11 a.m.

before 11 a.m. okay quite a few but it can’t be all of

okay quite a few but it can’t be all of

okay quite a few but it can’t be all of them because some of you are here today

them because some of you are here today

them because some of you are here today we rarely conform to labels in real life

we rarely conform to labels in real life

we rarely conform to labels in real life so why should we in how we eat I start

so why should we in how we eat I start

so why should we in how we eat I start to think about the real reasons we eat

to think about the real reasons we eat

to think about the real reasons we eat what we do and in the digital world it’s

what we do and in the digital world it’s

what we do and in the digital world it’s often your phone how many times have you

often your phone how many times have you

often your phone how many times have you been in the supermarket and seen someone

been in the supermarket and seen someone

been in the supermarket and seen someone looking at their phone and buying

looking at their phone and buying

looking at their phone and buying asparagus or something recommended by a

asparagus or something recommended by a

asparagus or something recommended by a celebrity chef rather than what’s in

celebrity chef rather than what’s in

celebrity chef rather than what’s in season or reading the feed of a footman

season or reading the feed of a footman

season or reading the feed of a footman fitness guru even though they’re not a

fitness guru even though they’re not a

fitness guru even though they’re not a qualified nutritionist or how many times

qualified nutritionist or how many times

qualified nutritionist or how many times have you been in the restaurant and

have you been in the restaurant and

have you been in the restaurant and seeing people choosing a dish because it

seeing people choosing a dish because it

seeing people choosing a dish because it photographs well increasingly with

photographs well increasingly with

photographs well increasingly with choosing our food relying on the

choosing our food relying on the

choosing our food relying on the appendages in our pockets it here’s the

appendages in our pockets it here’s the

appendages in our pockets it here’s the thing Instagram can tell you what looks

thing Instagram can tell you what looks

thing Instagram can tell you what looks good but it can’t tell you what tastes

good but it can’t tell you what tastes

good but it can’t tell you what tastes good

good

good Twitter can tell you what’s fashionable

Twitter can tell you what’s fashionable

Twitter can tell you what’s fashionable but it can’t tell you what’s nutritious

but it can’t tell you what’s nutritious

but it can’t tell you what’s nutritious MyFitnessPal can tell you how many

MyFitnessPal can tell you how many

MyFitnessPal can tell you how many calories are in fish but it can’t tell

calories are in fish but it can’t tell

calories are in fish but it can’t tell you the energy you need to be afternoon

yet increasingly that’s what we use and

yet increasingly that’s what we use and again I can understand that dudes like a

again I can understand that dudes like a

again I can understand that dudes like a new religion where do we go on Sunday

new religion where do we go on Sunday

new religion where do we go on Sunday and go to the farmers market or a

and go to the farmers market or a

and go to the farmers market or a restaurant we’re constantly looking

restaurant we’re constantly looking

restaurant we’re constantly looking around us to see what other people are

around us to see what other people are

around us to see what other people are eating what’s the most common post on

eating what’s the most common post on

eating what’s the most common post on Instagram food and the most common photo

Instagram food and the most common photo

Instagram food and the most common photo you’ve got it

you’ve got it

you’ve got it Ricardo on toast I’ve done it myself and

Ricardo on toast I’ve done it myself and

Ricardo on toast I’ve done it myself and I can see why people do that a lot of

I can see why people do that a lot of

I can see why people do that a lot of young people today aren’t gonna be able

young people today aren’t gonna be able

young people today aren’t gonna be able to afford their own homes the struggle

to afford their own homes the struggle

to afford their own homes the struggle to pay off their student loans dudes the

to pay off their student loans dudes the

to pay off their student loans dudes the one thing you can afford to show off

one thing you can afford to show off

one thing you can afford to show off about lots of new trends of emerged

about lots of new trends of emerged

about lots of new trends of emerged things like clean eating plant pests

things like clean eating plant pests

things like clean eating plant pests vegan vegan before six in high carb low

vegan vegan before six in high carb low

vegan vegan before six in high carb low carb I could go on all day and that’s

carb I could go on all day and that’s

carb I could go on all day and that’s fine if it suits you if you do a little

fine if it suits you if you do a little

fine if it suits you if you do a little bit of research and make sure you’re

bit of research and make sure you’re

bit of research and make sure you’re getting the right nutrients but it is

getting the right nutrients but it is

getting the right nutrients but it is difficult for some people the nhf have

difficult for some people the nhf have

difficult for some people the nhf have reported a rise in anorexia in the

reported a rise in anorexia in the

reported a rise in anorexia in the under-19s the Royal College of

under-19s the Royal College of

under-19s the Royal College of Psychiatrists acknowledged a link

Psychiatrists acknowledged a link

Psychiatrists acknowledged a link between viewing a lot of media and the

between viewing a lot of media and the

between viewing a lot of media and the risk of eating disorders so here I am in

risk of eating disorders so here I am in

risk of eating disorders so here I am in a position where people are asking me

a position where people are asking me

a position where people are asking me how should I eat and I’m thinking it’s

how should I eat and I’m thinking it’s

how should I eat and I’m thinking it’s not just lay that labels a restrictive

not just lay that labels a restrictive

not just lay that labels a restrictive it might be dangerous so I thought I’m

it might be dangerous so I thought I’m

it might be dangerous so I thought I’m gonna be something radical again I’m

gonna be something radical again I’m

gonna be something radical again I’m gonna tell the truth about what I eat

gonna tell the truth about what I eat

gonna tell the truth about what I eat and I thought about my own food history

and I thought about my own food history

and I thought about my own food history I thought about being a child and 80s

I thought about being a child and 80s

I thought about being a child and 80s and eating butterscotch mousse into the

and eating butterscotch mousse into the

and eating butterscotch mousse into the lights and fingers kiss me pancakes all

lights and fingers kiss me pancakes all

lights and fingers kiss me pancakes all those comfort foods I thought about

those comfort foods I thought about

those comfort foods I thought about sharing a room with a girl and her

sharing a room with a girl and her

sharing a room with a girl and her eating cheese learning crystals in bed

eating cheese learning crystals in bed

eating cheese learning crystals in bed and hating them ever since I thought

and hating them ever since I thought

and hating them ever since I thought about being a teenager and hating my

about being a teenager and hating my

about being a teenager and hating my body yo-yo dieting into my twenties I

body yo-yo dieting into my twenties I

body yo-yo dieting into my twenties I thought about recovering from that and

thought about recovering from that and

thought about recovering from that and learning to love my body I thought about

learning to love my body I thought about

learning to love my body I thought about being at university and eating nothing

being at university and eating nothing

being at university and eating nothing but hummus on toast three years

but hummus on toast three years

but hummus on toast three years and I thought about being a journalist

and I thought about being a journalist

and I thought about being a journalist and saving money on food so I could buy

and saving money on food so I could buy

and saving money on food so I could buy out and spend it on booze and I thought

out and spend it on booze and I thought

out and spend it on booze and I thought about becoming going to Africa for the

about becoming going to Africa for the

about becoming going to Africa for the first time and trying mangos when I was

first time and trying mangos when I was

first time and trying mangos when I was 19 I thought about falling in love for

19 I thought about falling in love for

19 I thought about falling in love for the first time and a breakfast of fresh

the first time and a breakfast of fresh

the first time and a breakfast of fresh walnuts and bacon and I thought about

walnuts and bacon and I thought about

walnuts and bacon and I thought about becoming a food writer and thinking I

becoming a food writer and thinking I

becoming a food writer and thinking I have to be perfect I have to eat clean

have to be perfect I have to eat clean

have to be perfect I have to eat clean and our hungry in an adequate that made

and our hungry in an adequate that made

and our hungry in an adequate that made me feel back like a thought as a

me feel back like a thought as a

me feel back like a thought as a teenager and I thought about discovering

teenager and I thought about discovering

teenager and I thought about discovering food writers who really spoke to me like

food writers who really spoke to me like

food writers who really spoke to me like MFK Fisher and B Wilson in deciding to

MFK Fisher and B Wilson in deciding to

MFK Fisher and B Wilson in deciding to embrace hunger and see food is a way to

embrace hunger and see food is a way to

embrace hunger and see food is a way to evoke memories and make friends

evoke memories and make friends

evoke memories and make friends I thought about cooking shortbread for

I thought about cooking shortbread for

I thought about cooking shortbread for my fellow Tedder’s this morning and have

my fellow Tedder’s this morning and have

my fellow Tedder’s this morning and have how that would make my grandmother it’s

how that would make my grandmother it’s

how that would make my grandmother it’s her recipe all these food experiences

her recipe all these food experiences

her recipe all these food experiences have made me who I am I don’t want to be

have made me who I am I don’t want to be

have made me who I am I don’t want to be restricted by a label I want to use food

restricted by a label I want to use food

restricted by a label I want to use food to express myself to explore my

to express myself to explore my

to express myself to explore my environment to nurture my body to

environment to nurture my body to

environment to nurture my body to comfort those I love and yes to try and

comfort those I love and yes to try and

comfort those I love and yes to try and make the world a better place

make the world a better place

make the world a better place so I don’t have a problem with vegan or

so I don’t have a problem with vegan or

so I don’t have a problem with vegan or organic as I say in the ethical

organic as I say in the ethical

organic as I say in the ethical carnivore if you want to reduce your

carnivore if you want to reduce your

carnivore if you want to reduce your carbon footprint one of the easiest

carbon footprint one of the easiest

carbon footprint one of the easiest things you can do is cut down on animal

things you can do is cut down on animal

things you can do is cut down on animal products but I do have a problem with

products but I do have a problem with

products but I do have a problem with defining your lifestyle your character

defining your lifestyle your character

defining your lifestyle your character your very soul by what you eat you are

your very soul by what you eat you are

your very soul by what you eat you are more than what you eat according to

more than what you eat according to

more than what you eat according to research the University of Belfast taste

research the University of Belfast taste

research the University of Belfast taste starts in the wound babies are more

starts in the wound babies are more

starts in the wound babies are more likely to respond positively to do their

likely to respond positively to do their

likely to respond positively to do their mother fate when they’re pregnant she

mother fate when they’re pregnant she

mother fate when they’re pregnant she was pregnant it’s also about physiology

was pregnant it’s also about physiology

was pregnant it’s also about physiology there’s some amazing research going on

there’s some amazing research going on

there’s some amazing research going on it may

it may

it may at the University of University College

at the University of University College

at the University of University College London into the gut microbiome and how

London into the gut microbiome and how

London into the gut microbiome and how we all have individual gut microbiomes

we all have individual gut microbiomes

we all have individual gut microbiomes so if there are any identical twins in

so if there are any identical twins in

so if there are any identical twins in the audience you might look the same on

the audience you might look the same on

the audience you might look the same on the outside but on the inside you’re

the outside but on the inside you’re

the outside but on the inside you’re different

different

different you crave different foods in the same

you crave different foods in the same

you crave different foods in the same way we live in different environments I

way we live in different environments I

way we live in different environments I would suggest if you live somewhere

would suggest if you live somewhere

would suggest if you live somewhere where they can only grow grass you as

where they can only grow grass you as

where they can only grow grass you as well eating grass fed beef is important

well eating grass fed beef is important

well eating grass fed beef is important plant protein will abort but if you live

plant protein will abort but if you live

plant protein will abort but if you live in Central LA you might have I eat

in Central LA you might have I eat

in Central LA you might have I eat amazing vegan food so I don’t know a

amazing vegan food so I don’t know a

amazing vegan food so I don’t know a label that suits everyone even if I

label that suits everyone even if I

label that suits everyone even if I wanted to and I don’t because I think

wanted to and I don’t because I think

wanted to and I don’t because I think you should work it out for yourself

you should work it out for yourself

you should work it out for yourself you don’t need a label you need

you don’t need a label you need

you don’t need a label you need knowledge that’s what I tried to do in

knowledge that’s what I tried to do in

knowledge that’s what I tried to do in the ethical carnival I visited chicken

the ethical carnival I visited chicken

the ethical carnival I visited chicken farms in Devon and pig farms in Denmark

farms in Devon and pig farms in Denmark

farms in Devon and pig farms in Denmark so people have all the information but I

so people have all the information but I

so people have all the information but I feel fundamentally uncomfortable in

feel fundamentally uncomfortable in

feel fundamentally uncomfortable in telling people how to eat I feel they

telling people how to eat I feel they

telling people how to eat I feel they should make the choice in themselves

should make the choice in themselves

should make the choice in themselves with the right information people say

with the right information people say

with the right information people say that it’s a bit woolly we can’t make a

that it’s a bit woolly we can’t make a

that it’s a bit woolly we can’t make a difference unless we unite under one

difference unless we unite under one

difference unless we unite under one label but something is only powerful if

label but something is only powerful if

label but something is only powerful if it’s true if you decide to make a change

it’s true if you decide to make a change

it’s true if you decide to make a change because you saw it on Twitter it’s not

because you saw it on Twitter it’s not

because you saw it on Twitter it’s not gonna last but if you decide to eat

gonna last but if you decide to eat

gonna last but if you decide to eat free-range chicken because like me

free-range chicken because like me

free-range chicken because like me you’ve seen the difference between a

you’ve seen the difference between a

you’ve seen the difference between a barn red chicken and free-range and it’s

barn red chicken and free-range and it’s

barn red chicken and free-range and it’s going to last a lifetime

going to last a lifetime

going to last a lifetime it also need to have need to understand

it also need to have need to understand

it also need to have need to understand labels so you need to do a little bit of

labels so you need to do a little bit of

labels so you need to do a little bit of research you need to decide the labels

research you need to decide the labels

research you need to decide the labels you trust like Marine Stewardship

you trust like Marine Stewardship

you trust like Marine Stewardship Council or Soil Association I know it’s

Council or Soil Association I know it’s

Council or Soil Association I know it’s a bit of work is much easier to tap a

a bit of work is much easier to tap a

a bit of work is much easier to tap a button on your phone than to do all that

button on your phone than to do all that

button on your phone than to do all that research but you can look at things like

research but you can look at things like

research but you can look at things like compassion in world farming website

compassion in world farming website

compassion in world farming website which shows you what each label means

which shows you what each label means

which shows you what each label means food is complex and it’s also incredibly

food is complex and it’s also incredibly

food is complex and it’s also incredibly exciting to speak to farmers and

exciting to speak to farmers and

exciting to speak to farmers and and find out where your food is from

and find out where your food is from

and find out where your food is from believe me I’ve just spent two years

believe me I’ve just spent two years

believe me I’ve just spent two years investigating where meat comes from I’m

investigating where meat comes from I’m

investigating where meat comes from I’m currently looking into our fruit and veg

currently looking into our fruit and veg

currently looking into our fruit and veg it’s fascinating stuff so being honest

it’s fascinating stuff so being honest

it’s fascinating stuff so being honest about your personal tastes educating

about your personal tastes educating

about your personal tastes educating yourself and understanding your body is

yourself and understanding your body is

yourself and understanding your body is so much more powerful than a label I

so much more powerful than a label I

so much more powerful than a label I cannot tell you how to eat a book cannot

cannot tell you how to eat a book cannot

cannot tell you how to eat a book cannot tell you how to eat a label cannot tell

tell you how to eat a label cannot tell

tell you how to eat a label cannot tell you how to eat your phone cannot tell

you how to eat your phone cannot tell

you how to eat your phone cannot tell you how to eat tell your own food story

you how to eat tell your own food story

you how to eat tell your own food story because stories are powerful and they’re

because stories are powerful and they’re

because stories are powerful and they’re beautiful and they’re complex they’re

beautiful and they’re complex they’re

beautiful and they’re complex they’re full of joy and pain and lots and lots

full of joy and pain and lots and lots

full of joy and pain and lots and lots of mistakes stories how we work things

of mistakes stories how we work things

of mistakes stories how we work things out and they are always unique

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