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Rural revival using what’s on hand | Alex Kerr | TEDxChiangMai


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oh you may not have guessed it looking

oh you may not have guessed it looking at me but I’m here to talk about Japan

at me but I’m here to talk about Japan

at me but I’m here to talk about Japan Japanese villages in particular and it

Japanese villages in particular and it

Japanese villages in particular and it has some relevance as well to Thailand

has some relevance as well to Thailand

has some relevance as well to Thailand because although I’ve lived in Japan

because although I’ve lived in Japan

because although I’ve lived in Japan since I was a little boy this year I

since I was a little boy this year I

since I was a little boy this year I think is the 54th year in Japan

think is the 54th year in Japan

think is the 54th year in Japan I’ve also all those decades been

I’ve also all those decades been

I’ve also all those decades been traveling to Thailand as well and so

traveling to Thailand as well and so

traveling to Thailand as well and so certain things that I’ve seen in Japan I

certain things that I’ve seen in Japan I

certain things that I’ve seen in Japan I think will have some bearing on what

think will have some bearing on what

think will have some bearing on what year or you will be experiencing here

year or you will be experiencing here

year or you will be experiencing here iya Valley this was my first village

iya Valley this was my first village

iya Valley this was my first village which I discovered when I was 19 a

which I discovered when I was 19 a

which I discovered when I was 19 a completely magical place it almost

completely magical place it almost

completely magical place it almost looked like a Chinese landscape painting

looked like a Chinese landscape painting

looked like a Chinese landscape painting they used to call it the Tibet of Japan

they used to call it the Tibet of Japan

they used to call it the Tibet of Japan people live on these incredible slopes

people live on these incredible slopes

people live on these incredible slopes with the mists coming in and I fell

with the mists coming in and I fell

with the mists coming in and I fell completely in love with this place you

completely in love with this place you

completely in love with this place you can see here where it is it’s in the

can see here where it is it’s in the

can see here where it is it’s in the middle of ku it’s a very remote even now

middle of ku it’s a very remote even now

middle of ku it’s a very remote even now it takes hours to get up these windy

it takes hours to get up these windy

it takes hours to get up these windy roads and when I first went there back

roads and when I first went there back

roads and when I first went there back in the 70s it was filled with old

in the 70s it was filled with old

in the 70s it was filled with old thatched houses and when I was still in

thatched houses and when I was still in

thatched houses and when I was still in college I bought one and there it is

college I bought one and there it is

college I bought one and there it is and it was 300 years old a completely

and it was 300 years old a completely

and it was 300 years old a completely amazing place but in horrible condition

amazing place but in horrible condition

amazing place but in horrible condition that had been abandoned empty you know

that had been abandoned empty you know

that had been abandoned empty you know just a disaster we spent the next 50

just a disaster we spent the next 50

just a disaster we spent the next 50 years 40 years fixing it up and this is

years 40 years fixing it up and this is

years 40 years fixing it up and this is how it looks today one of the things

how it looks today one of the things

how it looks today one of the things that I think is noteworthy is notice how

that I think is noteworthy is notice how

that I think is noteworthy is notice how it looks a little bit like Thai houses

it looks a little bit like Thai houses

it looks a little bit like Thai houses that because of the deepest roots the

that because of the deepest roots the

that because of the deepest roots the Thai style of old wooden house is

Thai style of old wooden house is

Thai style of old wooden house is actually closely related to these very

actually closely related to these very

actually closely related to these very old Japanese structures well when I went

old Japanese structures well when I went

old Japanese structures well when I went into yeah those were happy days there

into yeah those were happy days there

into yeah those were happy days there were children and there were festivals

were children and there were festivals

were children and there were festivals there was a lot going on but something

there was a lot going on but something

there was a lot going on but something happened and this is really my subject

happened and this is really my subject

happened and this is really my subject today

today

today and it’s depopulation today eeeh is

and it’s depopulation today eeeh is

and it’s depopulation today eeeh is filled with abandoned houses the

filled with abandoned houses the

filled with abandoned houses the children are gone it’s old people and

children are gone it’s old people and

children are gone it’s old people and this is actually not just to Japan

this is actually not just to Japan

this is actually not just to Japan problem this is an international problem

problem this is an international problem

problem this is an international problem it’s all over the world you’ll find it

it’s all over the world you’ll find it

it’s all over the world you’ll find it in Italy Austria Scotland

in Italy Austria Scotland

in Italy Austria Scotland it’s starting to happen in China and

it’s starting to happen in China and

it’s starting to happen in China and Japan is just ahead of the curve because

Japan is just ahead of the curve because

Japan is just ahead of the curve because the depopulation is so much more severe

the depopulation is so much more severe

the depopulation is so much more severe in Japan you can see here this

in Japan you can see here this

in Japan you can see here this incredible drop last year Japan lost

incredible drop last year Japan lost

incredible drop last year Japan lost 350,000 people in a year which is like

350,000 people in a year which is like

350,000 people in a year which is like losing half of Shanghai in one year it’s

losing half of Shanghai in one year it’s

losing half of Shanghai in one year it’s happening in Thailand too

happening in Thailand too

happening in Thailand too the national population hasn’t fallen

the national population hasn’t fallen

the national population hasn’t fallen yet but the rural population that is

yet but the rural population that is

yet but the rural population that is people living in villages are down 10

people living in villages are down 10

people living in villages are down 10 million since the year 2000 so

million since the year 2000 so

million since the year 2000 so everything that I’m about to talk about

everything that I’m about to talk about

everything that I’m about to talk about you will start seeing more and more in

you will start seeing more and more in

you will start seeing more and more in this country I think but what has

this country I think but what has

this country I think but what has happened in Japan is this empty streets

happened in Japan is this empty streets

happened in Japan is this empty streets abandoned houses there are 10 million

abandoned houses there are 10 million

abandoned houses there are 10 million abandoned houses around Japan now many

abandoned houses around Japan now many

abandoned houses around Japan now many of them looking like this I travel

of them looking like this I travel

of them looking like this I travel around and this is what I see all the

around and this is what I see all the

around and this is what I see all the time a moss garden and the tatami from a

time a moss garden and the tatami from a

time a moss garden and the tatami from a leaky roof and as this process continues

leaky roof and as this process continues

leaky roof and as this process continues the villages are in a state of collapse

the villages are in a state of collapse

the villages are in a state of collapse they can’t keep up their shrines and

they can’t keep up their shrines and

they can’t keep up their shrines and temples and so then the question is what

temples and so then the question is what

temples and so then the question is what to do and one lady up in our valley of

to do and one lady up in our valley of

to do and one lady up in our valley of iya decided well since the people were

iya decided well since the people were

iya decided well since the people were gone she would repopulate it with

gone she would repopulate it with

gone she would repopulate it with scarecrows and here they are and they’re

scarecrows and here they are and they’re

scarecrows and here they are and they’re waiting at a bus stop for a bus that

waiting at a bus stop for a bus that

waiting at a bus stop for a bus that will never come and they’re in the

will never come and they’re in the

will never come and they’re in the fields they’re everywhere and she even

fields they’re everywhere and she even

fields they’re everywhere and she even have a scarecrow traffic policeman but

have a scarecrow traffic policeman but

have a scarecrow traffic policeman but there there have to be other ways and of

there there have to be other ways and of

there there have to be other ways and of course there are and sustainable tourism

course there are and sustainable tourism

course there are and sustainable tourism is really the great angel the last hope

is really the great angel the last hope

is really the great angel the last hope for for these rural areas and this is

for for these rural areas and this is

for for these rural areas and this is true

true

true and so in what we did is focus on long

and so in what we did is focus on long

and so in what we did is focus on long state tourism people coming there will

state tourism people coming there will

state tourism people coming there will actually stay in the village and we did

actually stay in the village and we did

actually stay in the village and we did that with these old houses and the old

that with these old houses and the old

that with these old houses and the old houses are just for people that want to

houses are just for people that want to

houses are just for people that want to get away we have people coming to year

get away we have people coming to year

get away we have people coming to year than want to just sit on the ground and

than want to just sit on the ground and

than want to just sit on the ground and watch those mists come in it’s a magical

watch those mists come in it’s a magical

watch those mists come in it’s a magical place to be but they don’t want to

place to be but they don’t want to

place to be but they don’t want to suffer they want to be in comfort and so

suffer they want to be in comfort and so

suffer they want to be in comfort and so we’ve restored the houses but you know

we’ve restored the houses but you know

we’ve restored the houses but you know plumbing heating nice kitchens and beds

plumbing heating nice kitchens and beds

plumbing heating nice kitchens and beds and so on and when that happens people

and so on and when that happens people

and so on and when that happens people will drive for hours up into the hills

will drive for hours up into the hills

will drive for hours up into the hills to get there they’ll take ferries over

to get there they’ll take ferries over

to get there they’ll take ferries over to distant islands because they’re in

to distant islands because they’re in

to distant islands because they’re in comfort and what we’re doing is in real

comfort and what we’re doing is in real

comfort and what we’re doing is in real contrast to the way tourism usually goes

contrast to the way tourism usually goes

contrast to the way tourism usually goes in Japan and I suspect here in Thailand

in Japan and I suspect here in Thailand

in Japan and I suspect here in Thailand two bureaucrats especially love the idea

two bureaucrats especially love the idea

two bureaucrats especially love the idea of numbers right we got a hundred

of numbers right we got a hundred

of numbers right we got a hundred thousand people we got three hundred

thousand people we got three hundred

thousand people we got three hundred thousand people and they come in and big

thousand people and they come in and big

thousand people and they come in and big tour buses and they count them but

tour buses and they count them but

tour buses and they count them but here’s the problem they did a study for

here’s the problem they did a study for

here’s the problem they did a study for example on a place like this and they

example on a place like this and they

example on a place like this and they found that the average stay is 40

found that the average stay is 40

found that the average stay is 40 minutes and they basically buy a coke in

minutes and they basically buy a coke in

minutes and they basically buy a coke in a vending machine and they use the

a vending machine and they use the

a vending machine and they use the toilet and they take one photo and they

toilet and they take one photo and they

toilet and they take one photo and they leave so in the meantime what if they

leave so in the meantime what if they

leave so in the meantime what if they had to do they’ve had to build this huge

had to do they’ve had to build this huge

had to do they’ve had to build this huge disruptive and expensive parking lot

disruptive and expensive parking lot

disruptive and expensive parking lot visitor facilities toilets

visitor facilities toilets

visitor facilities toilets you know plumbing widening the roads all

you know plumbing widening the roads all

you know plumbing widening the roads all this construction has to happen that’s

this construction has to happen that’s

this construction has to happen that’s very disruptive and the villagers no

very disruptive and the villagers no

very disruptive and the villagers no longer have a real life because

longer have a real life because

longer have a real life because thousands of people are traping this

thousands of people are traping this

thousands of people are traping this traipsing through their village every

traipsing through their village every

traipsing through their village every day and the money doesn’t even stay

day and the money doesn’t even stay

day and the money doesn’t even stay there because it goes to the vending

there because it goes to the vending

there because it goes to the vending machine so what we did in yeah we it’s

machine so what we did in yeah we it’s

machine so what we did in yeah we it’s small-scale we did nine houses which

small-scale we did nine houses which

small-scale we did nine houses which weari thatched made comfortable and what

weari thatched made comfortable and what

weari thatched made comfortable and what we found in iya is it’s a completely

we found in iya is it’s a completely

we found in iya is it’s a completely different economy because people come

different economy because people come

different economy because people come they spend the night that supports a

they spend the night that supports a

they spend the night that supports a whole crew of people that look after

whole crew of people that look after

whole crew of people that look after these houses so we have young people

these houses so we have young people

these houses so we have young people that have moved in now and are working

that have moved in now and are working

that have moved in now and are working in iya looking after the houses we have

in iya looking after the houses we have

in iya looking after the houses we have [Music]

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[Music] people restaurants caterers

people restaurants caterers

people restaurants caterers because they buy the food as well so we

because they buy the food as well so we

because they buy the food as well so we did a little calculation for the income

did a little calculation for the income

did a little calculation for the income that comes to you for three thousand

that comes to you for three thousand

that comes to you for three thousand people how many people would have to

people how many people would have to

people how many people would have to come to the big bus town almost seventy

come to the big bus town almost seventy

come to the big bus town almost seventy thousand so it’s basically one person

thousand so it’s basically one person

thousand so it’s basically one person staying in ears were the bus load and

staying in ears were the bus load and

staying in ears were the bus load and it’s not disruptive because three

it’s not disruptive because three

it’s not disruptive because three thousand people in a year is about ten

thousand people in a year is about ten

thousand people in a year is about ten people a day so the village can go on

people a day so the village can go on

people a day so the village can go on sustainably

sustainably

sustainably well gaining quite a big economic

well gaining quite a big economic

well gaining quite a big economic benefit so what I’ve been talking about

benefit so what I’ve been talking about

benefit so what I’ve been talking about so far is that Japanese have an old word

so far is that Japanese have an old word

so far is that Japanese have an old word for this which is metate it’s a very old

for this which is metate it’s a very old

for this which is metate it’s a very old word from 400 years ago when the tea

word from 400 years ago when the tea

word from 400 years ago when the tea masters decided that they would you take

masters decided that they would you take

masters decided that they would you take one thing that had an old use and find a

one thing that had an old use and find a

one thing that had an old use and find a new use and so they they loved these

new use and so they they loved these

new use and so they they loved these rough Korean rice bowls now they thought

rough Korean rice bowls now they thought

rough Korean rice bowls now they thought that’s very artistic well let’s use it

that’s very artistic well let’s use it

that’s very artistic well let’s use it in tea and so they’ve found a completely

in tea and so they’ve found a completely

in tea and so they’ve found a completely new way of using it and so we do this

new way of using it and so we do this

new way of using it and so we do this with our house reconstructions for

with our house reconstructions for

with our house reconstructions for example they eat or tea that’s this

example they eat or tea that’s this

example they eat or tea that’s this floor hearth and that was the that was

floor hearth and that was the that was

floor hearth and that was the that was the center of life that’s where people

the center of life that’s where people

the center of life that’s where people sat around and chatted together so we

sat around and chatted together so we

sat around and chatted together so we took the e doherty and we just lowered

took the e doherty and we just lowered

took the e doherty and we just lowered the floor that frame is where it’s been

the floor that frame is where it’s been

the floor that frame is where it’s been for two hundred years nothing has moved

for two hundred years nothing has moved

for two hundred years nothing has moved but it’s a completely new use and there

but it’s a completely new use and there

but it’s a completely new use and there are other ways of doing me taught days

are other ways of doing me taught days

are other ways of doing me taught days so today I wanted to talk about three of

so today I wanted to talk about three of

so today I wanted to talk about three of those ways the first one we’ve talked

those ways the first one we’ve talked

those ways the first one we’ve talked about which is the houses but you can

about which is the houses but you can

about which is the houses but you can also do it with food and with art in

also do it with food and with art in

also do it with food and with art in fact this map shows you three of the

fact this map shows you three of the

fact this map shows you three of the places eeya

places eeya

places eeya where we’ve just talked about which go

where we’ve just talked about which go

where we’ve just talked about which go where we’ve done a food program and

where we’ve done a food program and

where we’ve done a food program and pocket oh where they’re doing it with

pocket oh where they’re doing it with

pocket oh where they’re doing it with art the thing about food which is also a

art the thing about food which is also a

art the thing about food which is also a huge tourist resource sustainable

huge tourist resource sustainable

huge tourist resource sustainable tourist resource is unfortunately a lot

tourist resource is unfortunately a lot

tourist resource is unfortunately a lot of small towns and villages they have

of small towns and villages they have

of small towns and villages they have these incredible foods that rice and

these incredible foods that rice and

these incredible foods that rice and fruits and vegetables and fish and sake

fruits and vegetables and fish and sake

fruits and vegetables and fish and sake and many other things but they don’t

and many other things but they don’t

and many other things but they don’t know how to serve it in a way that’s

know how to serve it in a way that’s

know how to serve it in a way that’s interesting or appealing or creative for

interesting or appealing or creative for

interesting or appealing or creative for modern travelers and so we have this

modern travelers and so we have this

modern travelers and so we have this program that we call dining out which

program that we call dining out which

program that we call dining out which we’ve done now in villages all around

we’ve done now in villages all around

we’ve done now in villages all around Japan and the most recent

Japan and the most recent

Japan and the most recent just a few months ago was a niche NGO

just a few months ago was a niche NGO

just a few months ago was a niche NGO which is a beautiful historic town it’s

which is a beautiful historic town it’s

which is a beautiful historic town it’s got incredible detailing on the houses a

got incredible detailing on the houses a

got incredible detailing on the houses a beautiful old Street but you may notice

beautiful old Street but you may notice

beautiful old Street but you may notice empty they need help and so what we do

empty they need help and so what we do

empty they need help and so what we do is we bring a world-famous Michelin star

is we bring a world-famous Michelin star

is we bring a world-famous Michelin star chef down to it which go and we take

chef down to it which go and we take

chef down to it which go and we take months going through looking at their

months going through looking at their

months going through looking at their orchards tasting the persimmons talking

orchards tasting the persimmons talking

orchards tasting the persimmons talking to the farmers about their grapes and so

to the farmers about their grapes and so

to the farmers about their grapes and so on finally the day comes and we’ve done

on finally the day comes and we’ve done

on finally the day comes and we’ve done a meet at a on the street we took that

a meet at a on the street we took that

a meet at a on the street we took that Street which was an empty street just

Street which was an empty street just

Street which was an empty street just with traffic and now it’s a it’s a

with traffic and now it’s a it’s a

with traffic and now it’s a it’s a restaurant alfresco restaurant inside

restaurant alfresco restaurant inside

restaurant alfresco restaurant inside the chef is working away with volunteers

the chef is working away with volunteers

the chef is working away with volunteers because one of the crucial elements it’s

because one of the crucial elements it’s

because one of the crucial elements it’s rather like TEDx when I think about it

rather like TEDx when I think about it

rather like TEDx when I think about it is the impact that it has on the locals

is the impact that it has on the locals

is the impact that it has on the locals the people that volunteer and are

the people that volunteer and are

the people that volunteer and are involved and so these people have a

involved and so these people have a

involved and so these people have a chance to work next to a world-famous

chance to work next to a world-famous

chance to work next to a world-famous chef and see the magic that he can do

chef and see the magic that he can do

chef and see the magic that he can do and there it is these incredible

and there it is these incredible

and there it is these incredible creations that are all done with local

creations that are all done with local

creations that are all done with local food and finally the the end of the

food and finally the the end of the

food and finally the the end of the evening comes and all the staff comes

evening comes and all the staff comes

evening comes and all the staff comes out of bowels and this is kind of the

out of bowels and this is kind of the

out of bowels and this is kind of the critical moment because those hiso

critical moment because those hiso

critical moment because those hiso guests they’ll leave right they go back

guests they’ll leave right they go back

guests they’ll leave right they go back to Tokyo but the volunteers have stayed

to Tokyo but the volunteers have stayed

to Tokyo but the volunteers have stayed and we go back to these villages a year

and we go back to these villages a year

and we go back to these villages a year or two later and we find it has an

or two later and we find it has an

or two later and we find it has an incredible impact you’ll find you know

incredible impact you’ll find you know

incredible impact you’ll find you know guest houses and coffee shops and

guest houses and coffee shops and

guest houses and coffee shops and restaurants and inns and it’s

restaurants and inns and it’s

restaurants and inns and it’s transformed their cuisine and sometimes

transformed their cuisine and sometimes

transformed their cuisine and sometimes you even have one of these people create

you even have one of these people create

you even have one of these people create their own new rep brand new restaurant

their own new rep brand new restaurant

their own new rep brand new restaurant at which people will travel days you

at which people will travel days you

at which people will travel days you know to get there and see it so it has

know to get there and see it so it has

know to get there and see it so it has quite an impact on the food and there’s

quite an impact on the food and there’s

quite an impact on the food and there’s another way the Third Way which is art

another way the Third Way which is art

another way the Third Way which is art arts and crafts in a particular

arts and crafts in a particular

arts and crafts in a particular Contemporary Arts are a critical move

Contemporary Arts are a critical move

Contemporary Arts are a critical move really in the world

really in the world

really in the world tourism and the town that’s really made

tourism and the town that’s really made

tourism and the town that’s really made a success of that is Takata which is a

a success of that is Takata which is a

a success of that is Takata which is a small town in central Kyushu otaku ties

small town in central Kyushu otaku ties

small town in central Kyushu otaku ties an old castle town

an old castle town

an old castle town it has samurai houses it’s it’s got real

it has samurai houses it’s it’s got real

it has samurai houses it’s it’s got real cultural riches you know but the old

cultural riches you know but the old

cultural riches you know but the old story shuttered empty houses probably

story shuttered empty houses probably

story shuttered empty houses probably I’d say about what half the city of

I’d say about what half the city of

I’d say about what half the city of Takata is empty so what did they do they

Takata is empty so what did they do they

Takata is empty so what did they do they took these old houses and they offer

took these old houses and they offer

took these old houses and they offer them to artists so they took a samurai

them to artists so they took a samurai

them to artists so they took a samurai house and made it into a bamboo artists

house and made it into a bamboo artists

house and made it into a bamboo artists studio they took a storehouse and gave

studio they took a storehouse and gave

studio they took a storehouse and gave it to an indigo dye dye er this little

it to an indigo dye dye er this little

it to an indigo dye dye er this little town house here is where a calligrapher

town house here is where a calligrapher

town house here is where a calligrapher is working they have international

is working they have international

is working they have international artists come in all of this once these

artists come in all of this once these

artists come in all of this once these are 10 days and studios are up and going

are 10 days and studios are up and going

are 10 days and studios are up and going and they have these tours and people

and they have these tours and people

and they have these tours and people come from far away and enjoy it once

come from far away and enjoy it once

come from far away and enjoy it once that happens you need restaurants and

that happens you need restaurants and

that happens you need restaurants and guest houses this guy set up a really

guest houses this guy set up a really

guest houses this guy set up a really popular Italian restaurant some people

popular Italian restaurant some people

popular Italian restaurant some people come to Tokyo just for his restaurant

come to Tokyo just for his restaurant

come to Tokyo just for his restaurant now you have a bakery other things

now you have a bakery other things

now you have a bakery other things happening the result is literally

happening the result is literally

happening the result is literally several hundred young people have moved

several hundred young people have moved

several hundred young people have moved into Takata and you have a truly

into Takata and you have a truly

into Takata and you have a truly brand-new community going on

brand-new community going on

brand-new community going on so Takata has found a way within this

so Takata has found a way within this

so Takata has found a way within this overall trend of depopulation to revive

overall trend of depopulation to revive

overall trend of depopulation to revive itself doing something completely

itself doing something completely

itself doing something completely different a kind of meat taught day with

different a kind of meat taught day with

different a kind of meat taught day with those houses so all this brings me back

those houses so all this brings me back

those houses so all this brings me back to something great personal since I was

to something great personal since I was

to something great personal since I was a little boy in Japan I’ve always loved

a little boy in Japan I’ve always loved

a little boy in Japan I’ve always loved calligraphy and whenever we do cultural

calligraphy and whenever we do cultural

calligraphy and whenever we do cultural events and restore houses and so on at

events and restore houses and so on at

events and restore houses and so on at some point you can’t stop me I’m going

some point you can’t stop me I’m going

some point you can’t stop me I’m going to write calligraphy and this is a few

to write calligraphy and this is a few

to write calligraphy and this is a few years ago in in Kyoto and I wanted to

years ago in in Kyoto and I wanted to

years ago in in Kyoto and I wanted to show you just one of the pieces this one

show you just one of the pieces this one

show you just one of the pieces this one and which you of course can all read and

and which you of course can all read and

and which you of course can all read and it says the the bright jewel the shining

it says the the bright jewel the shining

it says the the bright jewel the shining jewel is in the palm of your hand and

jewel is in the palm of your hand and

jewel is in the palm of your hand and it’s an old Buddhist story and it talks

it’s an old Buddhist story and it talks

it’s an old Buddhist story and it talks about a man who

about a man who

about a man who looking for the brightest shining jewel

looking for the brightest shining jewel

looking for the brightest shining jewel in the world and spends decades it looks

in the world and spends decades it looks

in the world and spends decades it looks everywhere I can’t find it and finally

everywhere I can’t find it and finally

everywhere I can’t find it and finally realizes that it was in the palm of his

realizes that it was in the palm of his

realizes that it was in the palm of his hand all along you don’t need to build a

hand all along you don’t need to build a

hand all along you don’t need to build a huge bus terminals and spend bring in

huge bus terminals and spend bring in

huge bus terminals and spend bring in the big investor and build a huge spa

the big investor and build a huge spa

the big investor and build a huge spa and do all of those things that really

and do all of those things that really

and do all of those things that really are not sustainable very often and run

are not sustainable very often and run

are not sustainable very often and run against and could even destroy what what

against and could even destroy what what

against and could even destroy what what is a value locally because you’ve

is a value locally because you’ve

is a value locally because you’ve already got these incredible cuisines

already got these incredible cuisines

already got these incredible cuisines you’ve got the artists you have the

you’ve got the artists you have the

you’ve got the artists you have the young people you have the crafts you

young people you have the crafts you

young people you have the crafts you have these old houses it’s all just

have these old houses it’s all just

have these old houses it’s all just sitting there in your hand so it’s about

sitting there in your hand so it’s about

sitting there in your hand so it’s about it but you have to bring it into the

it but you have to bring it into the

it but you have to bring it into the modern age and so it’s a matter of using

modern age and so it’s a matter of using

modern age and so it’s a matter of using these techniques applying the techniques

these techniques applying the techniques

these techniques applying the techniques of metate to make the modern and just

of metate to make the modern and just

of metate to make the modern and just figuring out how to use it thank you

figuring out how to use it thank you

figuring out how to use it thank you very much

very much

very much [Applause]

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