you have to hear it if you want to experience a reaching out work within
experience a reaching out work within
experience a reaching out work within meeting that has the power to transform
meeting that has the power to transform
meeting that has the power to transform lives reaching out from within is a
lives reaching out from within is a
lives reaching out from within is a self-help program for incarcerated men
self-help program for incarcerated men
self-help program for incarcerated men and women in every Kansas prison the men
and women in every Kansas prison the men
and women in every Kansas prison the men and women who choose to participate meet
and women who choose to participate meet
and women who choose to participate meet weekly and they will file into a bear
weekly and they will file into a bear
weekly and they will file into a bear room with plastic chairs the women are
room with plastic chairs the women are
room with plastic chairs the women are wearing long cotton pants and a t-shirt
wearing long cotton pants and a t-shirt
wearing long cotton pants and a t-shirt with a number and the men wear blue
with a number and the men wear blue
with a number and the men wear blue jeans and a blue shirt and they wear a
jeans and a blue shirt and they wear a
jeans and a blue shirt and they wear a number and they all are carrying the
number and they all are carrying the
number and they all are carrying the blue book ah dah the blue book was
blue book ah dah the blue book was
blue book ah dah the blue book was created by a man who was serving a life
created by a man who was serving a life
created by a man who was serving a life sentence and he wanted to understand the
sentence and he wanted to understand the
sentence and he wanted to understand the roots of violence in his life so he
roots of violence in his life so he
roots of violence in his life so he asked if I could find some people that
asked if I could find some people that
asked if I could find some people that would come to the prison and talk about
would come to the prison and talk about
would come to the prison and talk about child abuse spouse abuse sexual abuse
child abuse spouse abuse sexual abuse
child abuse spouse abuse sexual abuse substance abuse addiction anger
substance abuse addiction anger
substance abuse addiction anger management conflict resolution
management conflict resolution
management conflict resolution communication skills a lot of other
communication skills a lot of other
communication skills a lot of other topics and everybody that I invited went
topics and everybody that I invited went
topics and everybody that I invited went to the prison and gave a workshop and
to the prison and gave a workshop and
to the prison and gave a workshop and Greg remembered everything they said and
Greg remembered everything they said and
Greg remembered everything they said and he started teaching of course the thing
he started teaching of course the thing
he started teaching of course the thing is that he came up with is after every
is that he came up with is after every
is that he came up with is after every paragraph that had some information on
paragraph that had some information on
paragraph that had some information on these topics he would ask a question and
these topics he would ask a question and
these topics he would ask a question and in the blue book there printed in
in the blue book there printed in
in the blue book there printed in italics and every question in italics is
italics and every question in italics is
italics and every question in italics is the kind of question that a psychiatrist
the kind of question that a psychiatrist
the kind of question that a psychiatrist would ask but there is no therapist in
would ask but there is no therapist in
would ask but there is no therapist in the room they only have each other to
the room they only have each other to
the room they only have each other to heal themselves
heal themselves
heal themselves each other so if you are not absolutely
each other so if you are not absolutely
each other so if you are not absolutely determined to examine the core of your
determined to examine the core of your
determined to examine the core of your being don’t come to one of these if you
being don’t come to one of these if you
being don’t come to one of these if you are not willing to be brutally
are not willing to be brutally
are not willing to be brutally vulnerable to share your deepest fears
vulnerable to share your deepest fears
vulnerable to share your deepest fears and regrets don’t show up this program
and regrets don’t show up this program
and regrets don’t show up this program is not for people who lack the courage
is not for people who lack the courage
is not for people who lack the courage to an effective program in prison is
to an effective program in prison is
to an effective program in prison is measured by recidivism recidivism is a
measured by recidivism recidivism is a
measured by recidivism recidivism is a word that’s used to describe the process
word that’s used to describe the process
word that’s used to describe the process of when somebody is released and then
of when somebody is released and then
of when somebody is released and then they have to come back in the national
they have to come back in the national
they have to come back in the national recidivism in this country is between
recidivism in this country is between
recidivism in this country is between fifty and sixty seven percent between
fifty and sixty seven percent between
fifty and sixty seven percent between fifty and sixty seven percent of all
fifty and sixty seven percent of all
fifty and sixty seven percent of all people who enter the prison and are
people who enter the prison and are
people who enter the prison and are released I’m back in again but reaching
released I’m back in again but reaching
released I’m back in again but reaching out from within the people who attend
out from within the people who attend
out from within the people who attend this program the recidivism data is
this program the recidivism data is
this program the recidivism data is between eight and twenty two person
between eight and twenty two person
between eight and twenty two person volunteers like myself who attend these
volunteers like myself who attend these
volunteers like myself who attend these weekly meetings sit in silent awe of the
weekly meetings sit in silent awe of the
weekly meetings sit in silent awe of the discussions that are so raw real and
discussions that are so raw real and
discussions that are so raw real and relevant I’ll give you an example I was
relevant I’ll give you an example I was
relevant I’ll give you an example I was at a meeting one evening and the word
at a meeting one evening and the word
at a meeting one evening and the word atonement came up and someone said well
atonement came up and someone said well
atonement came up and someone said well what what is how do you define at only
what what is how do you define at only
what what is how do you define at only and somebody else said well we don’t get
and somebody else said well we don’t get
and somebody else said well we don’t get to define it’s society does if you
to define it’s society does if you
to define it’s society does if you commit a certain crime you will spend a
commit a certain crime you will spend a
commit a certain crime you will spend a certain amount of time and then somebody
certain amount of time and then somebody
certain amount of time and then somebody spoke up and said but we all know people
spoke up and said but we all know people
spoke up and said but we all know people who serve their time and they never
who serve their time and they never
who serve their time and they never atone for the
atone for the
atone for the crime and then somebody else said and we
crime and then somebody else said and we
crime and then somebody else said and we all know people who atoned a long time
all know people who atoned a long time
all know people who atoned a long time ago and have never been released the
ago and have never been released the
ago and have never been released the member of reaching out from within who
member of reaching out from within who
member of reaching out from within who was facilitating this discussion noticed
was facilitating this discussion noticed
was facilitating this discussion noticed that there was a man sitting in a chair
that there was a man sitting in a chair
that there was a man sitting in a chair and he was in agony he was squirming he
and he was in agony he was squirming he
and he was in agony he was squirming he he could tell that there was something
he could tell that there was something
he could tell that there was something really going on so he walked over and he
really going on so he walked over and he
really going on so he walked over and he said to Damien Damien what’s going on
said to Damien Damien what’s going on
said to Damien Damien what’s going on with you
with you
with you I can see that you’re you’re really
I can see that you’re you’re really
I can see that you’re you’re really upset and Damien said I can never atone
upset and Damien said I can never atone
upset and Damien said I can never atone when I was 18 I killed a man who was 18
when I was 18 I killed a man who was 18
when I was 18 I killed a man who was 18 and it doesn’t make any difference what
and it doesn’t make any difference what
and it doesn’t make any difference what I do or how long I spend here I could
I do or how long I spend here I could
I do or how long I spend here I could never bring him back to life and there
never bring him back to life and there
never bring him back to life and there was silence in the room and CJ walked
was silence in the room and CJ walked
was silence in the room and CJ walked over stood in front of Damien and said
over stood in front of Damien and said
over stood in front of Damien and said Damien I destroyed two people’s lives I
Damien I destroyed two people’s lives I
Damien I destroyed two people’s lives I killed a woman and I kept a
killed a woman and I kept a
killed a woman and I kept a seven-year-old daughter from having a
seven-year-old daughter from having a
seven-year-old daughter from having a mother he said for decades I wallowed in
mother he said for decades I wallowed in
mother he said for decades I wallowed in my guilt and my shame I was just
my guilt and my shame I was just
my guilt and my shame I was just consumed with what I had done
consumed with what I had done
consumed with what I had done and one day I looked in the mirror and I
and one day I looked in the mirror and I
and one day I looked in the mirror and I said I’m still here my life has been
said I’m still here my life has been
said I’m still here my life has been spared what am I going to do to deserve
spared what am I going to do to deserve
spared what am I going to do to deserve this life that I have he said I thought
this life that I have he said I thought
this life that I have he said I thought to myself about all the people in this
to myself about all the people in this
to myself about all the people in this prison who were in pain and I thought to
prison who were in pain and I thought to
prison who were in pain and I thought to myself if I could just get out of myself
myself if I could just get out of myself
myself if I could just get out of myself forgive myself and be available to other
forgive myself and be available to other
forgive myself and be available to other people I could deserve this life he said
people I could deserve this life he said
people I could deserve this life he said Damien if you decide that you want to
Damien if you decide that you want to
Damien if you decide that you want to forgive yourself and become of service
forgive yourself and become of service
forgive yourself and become of service to others you know where my bunk is come
to others you know where my bunk is come
to others you know where my bunk is come on over I’ll be available to you 24/7
another story members of reaching out
another story members of reaching out from within who are in minimum security
from within who are in minimum security
from within who are in minimum security at Lansing are given permission to leave
at Lansing are given permission to leave
at Lansing are given permission to leave the prison and talk to juvenile
the prison and talk to juvenile
the prison and talk to juvenile offenders in Olathe and the staff of the
offenders in Olathe and the staff of the
offenders in Olathe and the staff of the juvenile offender facility says that
juvenile offender facility says that
juvenile offender facility says that when the inmates come and interact with
when the inmates come and interact with
when the inmates come and interact with those kids it is the most effective
those kids it is the most effective
those kids it is the most effective thing that happens for those kids so
thing that happens for those kids so
thing that happens for those kids so they are also allowed to go to high
they are also allowed to go to high
they are also allowed to go to high schools and talk to students as long as
schools and talk to students as long as
schools and talk to students as long as it’s in Kansas so three of our members
it’s in Kansas so three of our members
it’s in Kansas so three of our members came to Shawnee Mission North and j-dub
came to Shawnee Mission North and j-dub
came to Shawnee Mission North and j-dub got up and j-dub said well I mean tell
got up and j-dub said well I mean tell
got up and j-dub said well I mean tell you how it was when I grew up my parents
you how it was when I grew up my parents
you how it was when I grew up my parents both worked full time I was pretty much
both worked full time I was pretty much
both worked full time I was pretty much on my own all the time one day I went to
on my own all the time one day I went to
on my own all the time one day I went to my parents and I said could I have a
my parents and I said could I have a
my parents and I said could I have a dollar for a dollar I could get a soda
dollar for a dollar I could get a soda
dollar for a dollar I could get a soda pop a bag of chips and a candy bar that
pop a bag of chips and a candy bar that
pop a bag of chips and a candy bar that sounded pretty good to me and my mother
sounded pretty good to me and my mother
sounded pretty good to me and my mother and father said no you can’t
and father said no you can’t
and father said no you can’t so I went out got locked in the front
so I went out got locked in the front
so I went out got locked in the front yard and I looked up the street where I
yard and I looked up the street where I
yard and I looked up the street where I always looked and I saw all those guys
always looked and I saw all those guys
always looked and I saw all those guys with jewelry and fancy cars and
with jewelry and fancy cars and
with jewelry and fancy cars and girlfriends and I thought that looks a
girlfriends and I thought that looks a
girlfriends and I thought that looks a lot better to me
lot better to me
lot better to me and where I am and so I went up and I
and where I am and so I went up and I
and where I am and so I went up and I became part of that group and I started
became part of that group and I started
became part of that group and I started selling drugs he said but I got caught
selling drugs he said but I got caught
selling drugs he said but I got caught and they sent me to prison said I got
and they sent me to prison said I got
and they sent me to prison said I got out but the only thing I knew how to do
out but the only thing I knew how to do
out but the only thing I knew how to do to survive was to sell drugs so I got
to survive was to sell drugs so I got
to survive was to sell drugs so I got caught I went back to prison again
caught I went back to prison again
caught I went back to prison again that’s what got out third time when you
that’s what got out third time when you
that’s what got out third time when you do it three times you’re in prison for
do it three times you’re in prison for
do it three times you’re in prison for 25 years said I’ve already served 20 and
25 years said I’ve already served 20 and
25 years said I’ve already served 20 and I’ve got five more to go and a student
I’ve got five more to go and a student
I’ve got five more to go and a student raised his hand and said j-dub don’t you
raised his hand and said j-dub don’t you
raised his hand and said j-dub don’t you think that’s terribly unfair that you
think that’s terribly unfair that you
think that’s terribly unfair that you have to spend 25 years in prison for a
have to spend 25 years in prison for a
have to spend 25 years in prison for a victimless crime and j-dub went over to
victimless crime and j-dub went over to
victimless crime and j-dub went over to him and he said my crime was not
him and he said my crime was not
him and he said my crime was not victimless I sold drugs to people like
victimless I sold drugs to people like
victimless I sold drugs to people like your parents those parents that I sold
your parents those parents that I sold
your parents those parents that I sold drugs to spend all their money getting
drugs to spend all their money getting
drugs to spend all their money getting high and paint me they were not
high and paint me they were not
high and paint me they were not available to their children those
available to their children those
available to their children those children are my vyd
one more story if you want to become a
one more story if you want to become a member of reaching out from within
member of reaching out from within
member of reaching out from within you usually recruited by somebody who’s
you usually recruited by somebody who’s
you usually recruited by somebody who’s already a member and you can come to a
already a member and you can come to a
already a member and you can come to a meeting and sit three times and never
meeting and sit three times and never
meeting and sit three times and never say a word except at the beginning of
say a word except at the beginning of
say a word except at the beginning of every meeting you have to join in the
every meeting you have to join in the
every meeting you have to join in the beliefs and goals which says we are
beliefs and goals which says we are
beliefs and goals which says we are committed to non-violence we will find
committed to non-violence we will find
committed to non-violence we will find alternatives to solve problems without
alternatives to solve problems without
alternatives to solve problems without using violence and then you give a
using violence and then you give a
using violence and then you give a positive thought and then you can just
positive thought and then you can just
positive thought and then you can just sit but if you want to at the fourth
sit but if you want to at the fourth
sit but if you want to at the fourth meeting you have to give an icebreaker
meeting you have to give an icebreaker
meeting you have to give an icebreaker so you have to stand up and you have to
so you have to stand up and you have to
so you have to stand up and you have to tell something about your life something
tell something about your life something
tell something about your life something about your family your history your
about your family your history your
about your family your history your crime how long you’ve been in prison how
crime how long you’ve been in prison how
crime how long you’ve been in prison how long you’re going to be in prison so
long you’re going to be in prison so
long you’re going to be in prison so this young man I was he’s in his early
this young man I was he’s in his early
this young man I was he’s in his early 50s that’s pretty young to me because
50s that’s pretty young to me because
50s that’s pretty young to me because I’m 85 so 50 looks very young to me so
I’m 85 so 50 looks very young to me so
I’m 85 so 50 looks very young to me so he stood up there and he said when I was
he stood up there and he said when I was
he stood up there and he said when I was 8 years old my parents got a divorce now
8 years old my parents got a divorce now
8 years old my parents got a divorce now my father was never around so that was
my father was never around so that was
my father was never around so that was no big loss but my mother was an
no big loss but my mother was an
no big loss but my mother was an alcoholic so Social Services put me in
alcoholic so Social Services put me in
alcoholic so Social Services put me in foster care and in those days the
foster care and in those days the
foster care and in those days the philosophy of foster care was you could
philosophy of foster care was you could
philosophy of foster care was you could only stay with one foster family for
only stay with one foster family for
only stay with one foster family for nine months because if you stayed much
nine months because if you stayed much
nine months because if you stayed much longer the foster family might grow to
longer the foster family might grow to
longer the foster family might grow to like you they might even love you they
like you they might even love you they
like you they might even love you they might want to adopt you
might want to adopt you
might want to adopt you and then that family wouldn’t be
and then that family wouldn’t be
and then that family wouldn’t be available to take foster children so
available to take foster children so
available to take foster children so every nine months James was sent to
every nine months James was sent to
every nine months James was sent to another foster family and to another
another foster family and to another
another foster family and to another school and no male figure in any of
school and no male figure in any of
school and no male figure in any of those homes ever reached out to him
those homes ever reached out to him
those homes ever reached out to him tried to make a connection I’m sure they
tried to make a connection I’m sure they
tried to make a connection I’m sure they all felt well he’s gone pretty soon so
all felt well he’s gone pretty soon so
all felt well he’s gone pretty soon so no sense in trying to bother this went
no sense in trying to bother this went
no sense in trying to bother this went on year after year after year he was a
on year after year after year he was a
on year after year after year he was a lonely isolated in the families that he
lonely isolated in the families that he
lonely isolated in the families that he stayed with and in
stayed with and in
stayed with and in school when he was 16 he got sent to
school when he was 16 he got sent to
school when he was 16 he got sent to another foster family got sent to a new
another foster family got sent to a new
another foster family got sent to a new school he walked in and a game came up
school he walked in and a game came up
school he walked in and a game came up and invited him joy he was thrilled he
and invited him joy he was thrilled he
and invited him joy he was thrilled he said I never had anybody invite me to
said I never had anybody invite me to
said I never had anybody invite me to belong to anything I I couldn’t believe
belong to anything I I couldn’t believe
belong to anything I I couldn’t believe it it was so wonderful he said what I
it it was so wonderful he said what I
it it was so wonderful he said what I didn’t know was that there was going to
didn’t know was that there was going to
didn’t know was that there was going to be an initiation right that I was going
be an initiation right that I was going
be an initiation right that I was going to have to be involved in and there was
to have to be involved in and there was
to have to be involved in and there was going to be a murder so I came into
going to be a murder so I came into
going to be a murder so I came into prison when I was 16 and I’ve handled
prison when I was 16 and I’ve handled
prison when I was 16 and I’ve handled prison the same way I handed on the
prison the same way I handed on the
prison the same way I handed on the outside
outside
outside I have no social skills I’ve been alone
I have no social skills I’ve been alone
I have no social skills I’ve been alone all my life two years ago a 16 year old
all my life two years ago a 16 year old
all my life two years ago a 16 year old boy came into prison and I looked at him
boy came into prison and I looked at him
boy came into prison and I looked at him and I saw myself and he said whenever I
and I saw myself and he said whenever I
and I saw myself and he said whenever I could I just went over to his bunk and
could I just went over to his bunk and
could I just went over to his bunk and he would talk and I would just listen
he would talk and I would just listen
he would talk and I would just listen and I listened and I listened and he
and I listened and I listened and he
and I listened and I listened and he said two weeks ago he got released and
said two weeks ago he got released and
said two weeks ago he got released and before he left he came over to where I
before he left he came over to where I
before he left he came over to where I was and he took my hand and he said I
was and he took my hand and he said I
was and he took my hand and he said I want to thank you for making a
want to thank you for making a
want to thank you for making a difference in my life and James said I
difference in my life and James said I
difference in my life and James said I have never made a difference in
have never made a difference in
have never made a difference in anybody’s life never made a difference
anybody’s life never made a difference
anybody’s life never made a difference in my own life but I have heard that in
in my own life but I have heard that in
in my own life but I have heard that in this program reaching out from within
this program reaching out from within
this program reaching out from within you make a difference in each other’s
you make a difference in each other’s
you make a difference in each other’s lives
lives
lives I want to have that feeling
I have been doing these weekly meetings
I have been doing these weekly meetings for 35 years and I have changed as
for 35 years and I have changed as
for 35 years and I have changed as dramatically as all of those people in
dramatically as all of those people in
dramatically as all of those people in reaching out and within I have learned
reaching out and within I have learned
reaching out and within I have learned to be much less judgmental I never want
to be much less judgmental I never want
to be much less judgmental I never want to know anyone’s crime I don’t want to
to know anyone’s crime I don’t want to
to know anyone’s crime I don’t want to know something that might keep me from
know something that might keep me from
know something that might keep me from loving them the way I do sometimes as
loving them the way I do sometimes as
loving them the way I do sometimes as part of a meeting somebody will confess
part of a meeting somebody will confess
part of a meeting somebody will confess to something that is very painful for me
to something that is very painful for me
to something that is very painful for me to hear and they only do it because they
to hear and they only do it because they
to hear and they only do it because they think it might be best for somebody and
think it might be best for somebody and
think it might be best for somebody and that will they could learn something
that will they could learn something
that will they could learn something from the confession but I think that
from the confession but I think that
from the confession but I think that even if I did hear it at the very
even if I did hear it at the very
even if I did hear it at the very beginning I might still be able to love
beginning I might still be able to love
beginning I might still be able to love them because I’m in the presence of men
them because I’m in the presence of men
them because I’m in the presence of men and women who want to become a value
and women who want to become a value
and women who want to become a value they want to change so they can go back
they want to change so they can go back
they want to change so they can go back to their families and they can be better
to their families and they can be better
to their families and they can be better children they can be better parents they
children they can be better parents they
children they can be better parents they can be more loving spouses they want to
can be more loving spouses they want to
can be more loving spouses they want to be of value how can I not love people
be of value how can I not love people
be of value how can I not love people who are making that journey so the
who are making that journey so the
who are making that journey so the second thing I’ve learned is that I
second thing I’ve learned is that I
second thing I’ve learned is that I believe that everybody is redeemable I
believe that everybody is redeemable I
believe that everybody is redeemable I believe there is an angel and a beast in
believe there is an angel and a beast in
believe there is an angel and a beast in each of us and I believe if we don’t
each of us and I believe if we don’t
each of us and I believe if we don’t take the effort to face the demons out
take the effort to face the demons out
take the effort to face the demons out of us we won’t be able to nurture that
of us we won’t be able to nurture that
of us we won’t be able to nurture that angel I have learned about resilience
angel I have learned about resilience
angel I have learned about resilience I have watched human being after human
I have watched human being after human
I have watched human being after human being transcend becoming a number losing
being transcend becoming a number losing
being transcend becoming a number losing their identity facing daily in Justices
their identity facing daily in Justices
their identity facing daily in Justices and they still have hope for the future
and they still have hope for the future
and they still have hope for the future they still believe they have something
they still believe they have something
they still believe they have something given to this world
given to this world
given to this world and when I go home in my car I ask
and when I go home in my car I ask
and when I go home in my car I ask myself the questions that are in italic
two months ago I had an opportunity to
two months ago I had an opportunity to go to Germany and to go to a prison I
go to Germany and to go to a prison I
go to Germany and to go to a prison I had seen a television program that
had seen a television program that
had seen a television program that showed prisons in Germany that are so
showed prisons in Germany that are so
showed prisons in Germany that are so humane it was unimaginable I decided I
humane it was unimaginable I decided I
humane it was unimaginable I decided I had to see it I went the head of the
had to see it I went the head of the
had to see it I went the head of the prison gave me his card
prison gave me his card
prison gave me his card eriell Brimley it doesn’t say warden it
eriell Brimley it doesn’t say warden it
eriell Brimley it doesn’t say warden it says social pedagogue a pedagogue is an
says social pedagogue a pedagogue is an
says social pedagogue a pedagogue is an educator a teacher the German prison
educator a teacher the German prison
educator a teacher the German prison system believes that the minute you
system believes that the minute you
system believes that the minute you enter the prison their whole purpose is
enter the prison their whole purpose is
enter the prison their whole purpose is to help you leave in a way that you can
to help you leave in a way that you can
to help you leave in a way that you can be productive and come into society and
be productive and come into society and
be productive and come into society and fit and become all that you ever needed
fit and become all that you ever needed
fit and become all that you ever needed to be so you wear your own clothes you
to be so you wear your own clothes you
to be so you wear your own clothes you have a little room that’s kind of like a
have a little room that’s kind of like a
have a little room that’s kind of like a dorm room but you have a key to your own
dorm room but you have a key to your own
dorm room but you have a key to your own room at the end of one hall there’s a
room at the end of one hall there’s a
room at the end of one hall there’s a little mini kitchen because they want
little mini kitchen because they want
little mini kitchen because they want you to learn how to cook so you’ll be
you to learn how to cook so you’ll be
you to learn how to cook so you’ll be able to survive at the other end of the
able to survive at the other end of the
able to survive at the other end of the hall there are social workers that are
hall there are social workers that are
hall there are social workers that are there to help you deal with your issues
there to help you deal with your issues
there to help you deal with your issues the guards who are not called guards
the guards who are not called guards
the guards who are not called guards they’re called pedagogues have no guns
they’re called pedagogues have no guns
they’re called pedagogues have no guns no billy clubs they carry no weapons and
no billy clubs they carry no weapons and
no billy clubs they carry no weapons and the inmates don’t fear them they look up
the inmates don’t fear them they look up
the inmates don’t fear them they look up to them because they’re trying to help
to them because they’re trying to help
to them because they’re trying to help them become productive cessful it isn’t
them become productive cessful it isn’t
them become productive cessful it isn’t can you imagine this kind of humane
can you imagine this kind of humane
can you imagine this kind of humane system coming to this country can you
system coming to this country can you
system coming to this country can you imagine that this country that is so
imagine that this country that is so
imagine that this country that is so committed to punishing and dehumanizing
committed to punishing and dehumanizing
committed to punishing and dehumanizing people who enter that it could ever
people who enter that it could ever
people who enter that it could ever change and be that way it will never
change and be that way it will never
change and be that way it will never happen in my lifetime but it could
happen in my lifetime but it could
happen in my lifetime but it could happen in yours if some of you if all of
happen in yours if some of you if all of
happen in yours if some of you if all of you in this audience would think about
you in this audience would think about
you in this audience would think about using your life your energy having a
using your life your energy having a
using your life your energy having a passion to make this world a safer place
passion to make this world a safer place
passion to make this world a safer place the recidivism rate for murderers in
the recidivism rate for murderers in
the recidivism rate for murderers in that prison is five its proves its
that prison is five its proves its
that prison is five its proves its success we just need people who will
success we just need people who will
success we just need people who will make policies like that that could be
make policies like that that could be
make policies like that that could be you please do whatever you can to make
you please do whatever you can to make
you please do whatever you can to make this world play thank you very good
this world play thank you very good
this world play thank you very good [Applause]
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