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Science and Morality | Michael Lynch | TEDxKU


after years of pestering and annoying my

after years of pestering and annoying my family friends really anybody I could

family friends really anybody I could

family friends really anybody I could corner into having a philosophical

corner into having a philosophical

corner into having a philosophical debate with me I finally have a captive

debate with me I finally have a captive

debate with me I finally have a captive audience so it should be great

audience so it should be great

audience so it should be great as the title suggests we’re gonna be

as the title suggests we’re gonna be

as the title suggests we’re gonna be talking about science we’re gonna be

talking about science we’re gonna be

talking about science we’re gonna be talking about morality more specifically

talking about morality more specifically

talking about morality more specifically we’re gonna be talking about the link

we’re gonna be talking about the link

we’re gonna be talking about the link between the two could it be possible

between the two could it be possible

between the two could it be possible that science has something to say about

that science has something to say about

that science has something to say about what we should believe in and how we

what we should believe in and how we

what we should believe in and how we should have in our daily lives hopefully

should have in our daily lives hopefully

should have in our daily lives hopefully about the end of this talk you’ll be

about the end of this talk you’ll be

about the end of this talk you’ll be convinced that there is but as it is

convinced that there is but as it is

convinced that there is but as it is said in the title of this event tonight

said in the title of this event tonight

said in the title of this event tonight that the theme is reflections and so I

that the theme is reflections and so I

that the theme is reflections and so I will be talking a little bit about

will be talking a little bit about

will be talking a little bit about myself although unfortunately compared

myself although unfortunately compared

myself although unfortunately compared to the source material or the material

to the source material or the material

to the source material or the material we’re gonna be covering in the rest of

we’re gonna be covering in the rest of

we’re gonna be covering in the rest of this talk it’s exceedingly boring my

this talk it’s exceedingly boring my

this talk it’s exceedingly boring my life but we’ll get through it as quickly

life but we’ll get through it as quickly

life but we’ll get through it as quickly as we can when I was young I was

as we can when I was young I was

as we can when I was young I was obsessed with science I was obsessed

obsessed with science I was obsessed

obsessed with science I was obsessed with science and I still am I would play

with science and I still am I would play

with science and I still am I would play with my toy dinosaurs and I would know

with my toy dinosaurs and I would know

with my toy dinosaurs and I would know everything about them where they lived

everything about them where they lived

everything about them where they lived when they died why they died and where

when they died why they died and where

when they died why they died and where where they went how they acted how they

where they went how they acted how they

where they went how they acted how they behaved what their names were I knew

behaved what their names were I knew

behaved what their names were I knew everything and I carry that that the

everything and I carry that that the

everything and I carry that that the thirst for knowledge with me today and I

thirst for knowledge with me today and I

thirst for knowledge with me today and I carried it through my entire life so far

carried it through my entire life so far

carried it through my entire life so far I wanted to know everything and as I

I wanted to know everything and as I

I wanted to know everything and as I started to get into high school and then

started to get into high school and then

started to get into high school and then higher levels of education I started to

higher levels of education I started to

higher levels of education I started to learn incredible things like me you the

learn incredible things like me you the

learn incredible things like me you the chair you’re sitting in the car you

chair you’re sitting in the car you

chair you’re sitting in the car you drove here the planet you live on

drove here the planet you live on

drove here the planet you live on they’re all made of exactly the same

they’re all made of exactly the same

they’re all made of exactly the same stuff which is incredible to me they’re

stuff which is incredible to me they’re

stuff which is incredible to me they’re all made in the exact same place in the

all made in the exact same place in the

all made in the exact same place in the bellies of stars which i think is

bellies of stars which i think is

bellies of stars which i think is unbelievable really almost magical but

unbelievable really almost magical but

unbelievable really almost magical but not quite and you know the fact that

not quite and you know the fact that

not quite and you know the fact that every single one of us here has almost

every single one of us here has almost

every single one of us here has almost exactly the same DNA and in fact you and

exactly the same DNA and in fact you and

exactly the same DNA and in fact you and me share 60% of our DNA with a banana so

me share 60% of our DNA with a banana so

me share 60% of our DNA with a banana so you are 60% banana or a banana at 60%

you are 60% banana or a banana at 60%

you are 60% banana or a banana at 60% you however you want to take that all

you however you want to take that all

you however you want to take that all these things I learn it and eventually I

these things I learn it and eventually I

these things I learn it and eventually I started looking up into the Stars and I

started looking up into the Stars and I

started looking up into the Stars and I realized that we are just one small

realized that we are just one small

realized that we are just one small insect

insect

insect to give planet in one decently sized

to give planet in one decently sized

to give planet in one decently sized solar system in one a ver aside galaxy

solar system in one a ver aside galaxy

solar system in one a ver aside galaxy that’s where we are by the way and that

that’s where we are by the way and that

that’s where we are by the way and that is just one in trillions of galaxies in

is just one in trillions of galaxies in

is just one in trillions of galaxies in the universe by the way we can’t

the universe by the way we can’t

the universe by the way we can’t actually see the whole universe that’s

actually see the whole universe that’s

actually see the whole universe that’s why we call it the observable universe

why we call it the observable universe

why we call it the observable universe it might be infinite there might be an

it might be infinite there might be an

it might be infinite there might be an infinite amount of galaxies with an

infinite amount of galaxies with an

infinite amount of galaxies with an infinite amount of planets that’s

infinite amount of planets that’s

infinite amount of planets that’s incredible

incredible

incredible and if you think about it all those

and if you think about it all those

and if you think about it all those things are made of the same stuff –

things are made of the same stuff –

things are made of the same stuff – exactly the same stuff as well

exactly the same stuff as well

exactly the same stuff as well unbelievable really and you know what I

unbelievable really and you know what I

unbelievable really and you know what I would look up into the Stars well

would look up into the Stars well

would look up into the Stars well actually it’d probably look more like

actually it’d probably look more like

actually it’d probably look more like that cuz you know light pollution but

that cuz you know light pollution but

that cuz you know light pollution but you know I look up into the Stars and I

you know I look up into the Stars and I

you know I look up into the Stars and I wonder you know is there morality in the

wonder you know is there morality in the

wonder you know is there morality in the universe and I don’t think it’ll be

universe and I don’t think it’ll be

universe and I don’t think it’ll be controversial to say that the universe

controversial to say that the universe

controversial to say that the universe itself is a moral not immoral but a

itself is a moral not immoral but a

itself is a moral not immoral but a moral Jupiter does not give a damn

moral Jupiter does not give a damn

moral Jupiter does not give a damn whether you live or die regardless of

whether you live or die regardless of

whether you live or die regardless of what your horoscope says you know the

what your horoscope says you know the

what your horoscope says you know the galaxies are not making are not having

galaxies are not making are not having

galaxies are not making are not having moral quandary about destroying each

moral quandary about destroying each

moral quandary about destroying each other and running into each other

other and running into each other

other and running into each other destroying billions of years of hard

destroying billions of years of hard

destroying billions of years of hard work on account of the atoms that made

work on account of the atoms that made

work on account of the atoms that made them they don’t care and that kind of

them they don’t care and that kind of

them they don’t care and that kind of struck something in me because I looked

struck something in me because I looked

struck something in me because I looked up and I saw these things and then I

up and I saw these things and then I

up and I saw these things and then I would look down and I think well we’re

would look down and I think well we’re

would look down and I think well we’re all made of the same stuff mean the

all made of the same stuff mean the

all made of the same stuff mean the galaxies the whole universe so if

galaxies the whole universe so if

galaxies the whole universe so if morality doesn’t apply to the universe

morality doesn’t apply to the universe

morality doesn’t apply to the universe then what is morality does it apply to

then what is morality does it apply to

then what is morality does it apply to me is it just something that we tell

me is it just something that we tell

me is it just something that we tell ourselves to help us sleep soundly

ourselves to help us sleep soundly

ourselves to help us sleep soundly enough and I really started to get into

enough and I really started to get into

enough and I really started to get into a moral crisis about the universe oh

a moral crisis about the universe oh

a moral crisis about the universe oh yeah I mean it’s like what is the point

yeah I mean it’s like what is the point

yeah I mean it’s like what is the point is there a point to being moral is there

is there a point to being moral is there

is there a point to being moral is there a point of me existing and this is high

a point of me existing and this is high

a point of me existing and this is high school at the time guys so I was kind of

school at the time guys so I was kind of

school at the time guys so I was kind of freaking out yeah I had enough to worry

freaking out yeah I had enough to worry

freaking out yeah I had enough to worry about it was barely cats passing my

about it was barely cats passing my

about it was barely cats passing my chemistry exams let alone thinking about

chemistry exams let alone thinking about

chemistry exams let alone thinking about the existential problem with the truth

the existential problem with the truth

the existential problem with the truth free but you know one thing I didn’t

free but you know one thing I didn’t

free but you know one thing I didn’t lose yeah I lost a lot of things you

lose yeah I lost a lot of things you

lose yeah I lost a lot of things you know my faith my my hope I lost a lot of

know my faith my my hope I lost a lot of

know my faith my my hope I lost a lot of things but one thing I didn’t lose was

things but one thing I didn’t lose was

things but one thing I didn’t lose was my thirst for knowledge I kept that with

my thirst for knowledge I kept that with

my thirst for knowledge I kept that with me I kept trying to learn as much as I

me I kept trying to learn as much as I

me I kept trying to learn as much as I possibly could about the world we live

possibly could about the world we live

possibly could about the world we live in regardless of what it taught me

in regardless of what it taught me

in regardless of what it taught me regardless of how it made me feel that

regardless of how it made me feel that

regardless of how it made me feel that is one good thing about science is that

is one good thing about science is that

is one good thing about science is that it doesn’t care how you feel about it it

it doesn’t care how you feel about it it

it doesn’t care how you feel about it it exists regardless and so the more I

exists regardless and so the more I

exists regardless and so the more I learned the more I realized even though

learned the more I realized even though

learned the more I realized even though we I in the universe are also similar it

we I in the universe are also similar it

we I in the universe are also similar it also helped me learn about how different

also helped me learn about how different

also helped me learn about how different we are

we are

we are it helped me learn about how unique

it helped me learn about how unique

it helped me learn about how unique Humanity is I mean cosmic cosmologically

Humanity is I mean cosmic cosmologically

Humanity is I mean cosmic cosmologically speaking life you don’t see it every day

speaking life you don’t see it every day

speaking life you don’t see it every day in fact it is possible although

in fact it is possible although

in fact it is possible although hopefully not true that we might be the

hopefully not true that we might be the

hopefully not true that we might be the only habitable planet in the universe

only habitable planet in the universe

only habitable planet in the universe now but far as we know that’s the case

now but far as we know that’s the case

now but far as we know that’s the case but what does that mean does that mean

but what does that mean does that mean

but what does that mean does that mean we’re special we unique well let’s find

we’re special we unique well let’s find

we’re special we unique well let’s find out let’s start simple okay so how about

out let’s start simple okay so how about

out let’s start simple okay so how about we just have a working definition of

we just have a working definition of

we just have a working definition of morality now some might say well the

morality now some might say well the

morality now some might say well the golden rule would be a good way to sum

golden rule would be a good way to sum

golden rule would be a good way to sum up morality and I’m talking secular

up morality and I’m talking secular

up morality and I’m talking secular morality not associative one particular

morality not associative one particular

morality not associative one particular creature or another so the Golden Rule

creature or another so the Golden Rule

creature or another so the Golden Rule do unto others as you would do to

do unto others as you would do to

do unto others as you would do to yourself now that’s a good start but

yourself now that’s a good start but

yourself now that’s a good start but what about the rhinoceroses what about

what about the rhinoceroses what about

what about the rhinoceroses what about the giraffes what about the bug then you

the giraffes what about the bug then you

the giraffes what about the bug then you step on every day you don’t know this I

step on every day you don’t know this I

step on every day you don’t know this I mean are they part of the moral

mean are they part of the moral

mean are they part of the moral community too I think that a good

community too I think that a good

community too I think that a good working definition of what it means to

working definition of what it means to

working definition of what it means to be moral is to whenever and wherever and

be moral is to whenever and wherever and

be moral is to whenever and wherever and however possible try to increase the

however possible try to increase the

however possible try to increase the flourishing or promote the flourishing

flourishing or promote the flourishing

flourishing or promote the flourishing of autonomous and sentient creatures

of autonomous and sentient creatures

of autonomous and sentient creatures in at the same time we have to do our

in at the same time we have to do our

in at the same time we have to do our best to obstruct and cast out the

best to obstruct and cast out the

best to obstruct and cast out the beliefs of people whatever that try to

beliefs of people whatever that try to

beliefs of people whatever that try to impede on that and what it what does it

impede on that and what it what does it

impede on that and what it what does it mean to be sentient well that just

mean to be sentient well that just

mean to be sentient well that just basically the ability to think and feel

basically the ability to think and feel

basically the ability to think and feel and not just feel like oh that hurts but

and not just feel like oh that hurts but

and not just feel like oh that hurts but I’m in love or I’m very angry when I’m

I’m in love or I’m very angry when I’m

I’m in love or I’m very angry when I’m very nervous as I am right now now this

very nervous as I am right now now this

very nervous as I am right now now this wasn’t my idea actually this is with

wasn’t my idea actually this is with

wasn’t my idea actually this is with other speakers and other people much

other speakers and other people much

other speakers and other people much more intelligent than I am like Sam

more intelligent than I am like Sam

more intelligent than I am like Sam Harris well and I agree with it well so

Harris well and I agree with it well so

Harris well and I agree with it well so with that with that said with a working

with that with that said with a working

with that with that said with a working definition of morality in place let’s

definition of morality in place let’s

definition of morality in place let’s talk about football there are objective

talk about football there are objective

talk about football there are objective things about football and this is how we

things about football and this is how we

things about football and this is how we can tie in science now if in any pursuit

can tie in science now if in any pursuit

can tie in science now if in any pursuit in life if you are not up-to-date on the

in life if you are not up-to-date on the

in life if you are not up-to-date on the scientific advancement of the time and

scientific advancement of the time and

scientific advancement of the time and not just football I mean everything

not just football I mean everything

not just football I mean everything literally everything in the entire world

literally everything in the entire world

literally everything in the entire world we couldn’t have without the advances of

we couldn’t have without the advances of

we couldn’t have without the advances of modern science made in transportation

modern science made in transportation

modern science made in transportation agriculture modern psychology

agriculture modern psychology

agriculture modern psychology communication industry what-have-you and

communication industry what-have-you and

communication industry what-have-you and this is an exhaustive but by no means a

this is an exhaustive but by no means a

this is an exhaustive but by no means a complete list of everything that science

complete list of everything that science

complete list of everything that science makes possible well so how does that

makes possible well so how does that

makes possible well so how does that kind of football if I dress like this in

kind of football if I dress like this in

kind of football if I dress like this in modern day football and I go up against

modern day football and I go up against

modern day football and I go up against someone like this regardless of how how

someone like this regardless of how how

someone like this regardless of how how tough I am regardless of how well I

tough I am regardless of how well I

tough I am regardless of how well I understand the plays regardless of how

understand the plays regardless of how

understand the plays regardless of how much natural talent I have if I’m not

much natural talent I have if I’m not

much natural talent I have if I’m not wearing the right equipment I will get

wearing the right equipment I will get

wearing the right equipment I will get destroyed by this man regardless of what

destroyed by this man regardless of what

destroyed by this man regardless of what I do the same can be said with really

I do the same can be said with really

I do the same can be said with really any pursuit if I’m a doctor and I don’t

any pursuit if I’m a doctor and I don’t

any pursuit if I’m a doctor and I don’t believe in antiseptic I don’t think I’ll

believe in antiseptic I don’t think I’ll

believe in antiseptic I don’t think I’ll get a lot of patients if I am a lawyer

get a lot of patients if I am a lawyer

get a lot of patients if I am a lawyer and I don’t know how to use a computer

and I don’t know how to use a computer

and I don’t know how to use a computer to communicate with people and so they

to communicate with people and so they

to communicate with people and so they can help me help them I probably won’t

can help me help them I probably won’t

can help me help them I probably won’t get a lot of clients it’s the it’s the

get a lot of clients it’s the it’s the

get a lot of clients it’s the it’s the truth in every single pursuit in in

truth in every single pursuit in in

truth in every single pursuit in in human history since the dawn of time if

human history since the dawn of time if

human history since the dawn of time if you’re not up to date then you’re you’re

you’re not up to date then you’re you’re

you’re not up to date then you’re you’re behind the time and in some ways

behind the time and in some ways

behind the time and in some ways irrelevant

well how does this apply to morality

well how does this apply to morality morality is in the exact same boat if I

morality is in the exact same boat if I

morality is in the exact same boat if I don’t understand the world I live in

don’t understand the world I live in

don’t understand the world I live in both scientifically bla philosophically

both scientifically bla philosophically

both scientifically bla philosophically what-have-you culturally then I can’t

what-have-you culturally then I can’t

what-have-you culturally then I can’t make good moral decisions so if I don’t

make good moral decisions so if I don’t

make good moral decisions so if I don’t understand the world I live in

understand the world I live in

understand the world I live in how can I truly be moral well maybe

how can I truly be moral well maybe

how can I truly be moral well maybe there we go now you might think I’ll

there we go now you might think I’ll

there we go now you might think I’ll talk about deforestation or polluting

talk about deforestation or polluting

talk about deforestation or polluting the water or nuclear waste but these are

the water or nuclear waste but these are

the water or nuclear waste but these are not issues of ignorance the size this is

not issues of ignorance the size this is

not issues of ignorance the size this is an issue necklace I mean that no one’s

an issue necklace I mean that no one’s

an issue necklace I mean that no one’s going into these pursuits innocently

going into these pursuits innocently

going into these pursuits innocently anymore no one is pouring nuclear waste

anymore no one is pouring nuclear waste

anymore no one is pouring nuclear waste into the ocean be like what what

into the ocean be like what what

into the ocean be like what what happened you know no one’s saying that

happened you know no one’s saying that

happened you know no one’s saying that anymore we know what we’re doing in

anymore we know what we’re doing in

anymore we know what we’re doing in these situations I could talk about

these situations I could talk about

these situations I could talk about climate change but as I’m sure my dad

climate change but as I’m sure my dad

climate change but as I’m sure my dad could attest I probably couldn’t

could attest I probably couldn’t

could attest I probably couldn’t convince you that it actually exists so

convince you that it actually exists so

convince you that it actually exists so we won’t talk about that what I do want

we won’t talk about that what I do want

we won’t talk about that what I do want to talk about is a particular species of

to talk about is a particular species of

to talk about is a particular species of frog the Panamanian frog and it lives or

frog the Panamanian frog and it lives or

frog the Panamanian frog and it lives or rather lived in Central America no

rather lived in Central America no

rather lived in Central America no longer exists in the wild it’s now by

longer exists in the wild it’s now by

longer exists in the wild it’s now by all by all definitions extinct there’s a

all by all definitions extinct there’s a

all by all definitions extinct there’s a few hundred individuals that live in

few hundred individuals that live in

few hundred individuals that live in captivity but this frog used to be one

captivity but this frog used to be one

captivity but this frog used to be one of the most popular animals like almost

of the most popular animals like almost

of the most popular animals like almost like a mascot of Central America they

like a mascot of Central America they

like a mascot of Central America they had statues little trinkets toys

had statues little trinkets toys

had statues little trinkets toys what-have-you of the Frog and a few

what-have-you of the Frog and a few

what-have-you of the Frog and a few decades ago it just disappear and we

decades ago it just disappear and we

decades ago it just disappear and we have no idea why I had no idea it wasn’t

have no idea why I had no idea it wasn’t

have no idea why I had no idea it wasn’t because we were poisoning the water

because we were poisoning the water

because we were poisoning the water supply it wasn’t that we were doing

supply it wasn’t that we were doing

supply it wasn’t that we were doing anything that we knew would be harmful

anything that we knew would be harmful

anything that we knew would be harmful we were ignorant to what we were doing

we were ignorant to what we were doing

we were ignorant to what we were doing to this frog and this wasn’t hundreds of

to this frog and this wasn’t hundreds of

to this frog and this wasn’t hundreds of years mind.you disappearance this was

years mind.you disappearance this was

years mind.you disappearance this was this is two decades and this thing is

this is two decades and this thing is

this is two decades and this thing is gone millions of sentient creatures died

gone millions of sentient creatures died

gone millions of sentient creatures died painfully in droves you could find piles

painfully in droves you could find piles

painfully in droves you could find piles of frog bodies all over and so you know

of frog bodies all over and so you know

of frog bodies all over and so you know well it turns out that we started

well it turns out that we started

well it turns out that we started looking at other frogs for answer

looking at other frogs for answer

looking at other frogs for answer some of them started having fungi grow

some of them started having fungi grow

some of them started having fungi grow inside of the dead bodies of these frogs

inside of the dead bodies of these frogs

inside of the dead bodies of these frogs where was this coming from I mean we

where was this coming from I mean we

where was this coming from I mean we traced it all the way back to Europe and

traced it all the way back to Europe and

traced it all the way back to Europe and it turns out there’s a species of Toad

it turns out there’s a species of Toad

it turns out there’s a species of Toad that can grow this fungus and it’s

that can grow this fungus and it’s

that can grow this fungus and it’s immune to the effect that it has on the

immune to the effect that it has on the

immune to the effect that it has on the frogs that died off in Central America

frogs that died off in Central America

frogs that died off in Central America and people ignorant to the fact that

and people ignorant to the fact that

and people ignorant to the fact that this fungus can be harmful brought that

this fungus can be harmful brought that

this fungus can be harmful brought that toad over to United States and then it

toad over to United States and then it

toad over to United States and then it eventually migrated down to Central

eventually migrated down to Central

eventually migrated down to Central America

America

America spreading the fungus wherever it went

spreading the fungus wherever it went

spreading the fungus wherever it went and because of our ignorance we allowed

and because of our ignorance we allowed

and because of our ignorance we allowed millions of intelligence feeling

millions of intelligence feeling

millions of intelligence feeling creatures die painfully now just because

creatures die painfully now just because

creatures die painfully now just because we didn’t know what we were doing does

we didn’t know what we were doing does

we didn’t know what we were doing does that mean we’re not at fault morally I

that mean we’re not at fault morally I

that mean we’re not at fault morally I don’t think it does I think that we are

don’t think it does I think that we are

don’t think it does I think that we are to blame for this because we weren’t

to blame for this because we weren’t

to blame for this because we weren’t educated enough to make a good decision

educated enough to make a good decision

educated enough to make a good decision so that’s how science can help us

so that’s how science can help us

so that’s how science can help us practically in morality but I want to

practically in morality but I want to

practically in morality but I want to move this talk to a little bit of a

move this talk to a little bit of a

move this talk to a little bit of a different direction I’m going to propose

different direction I’m going to propose

different direction I’m going to propose something to you hypothesis take or

something to you hypothesis take or

something to you hypothesis take or leave it that I think might help us find

leave it that I think might help us find

leave it that I think might help us find objective moral truth now what I mean by

objective moral truth now what I mean by

objective moral truth now what I mean by objective moral truth is something that

objective moral truth is something that

objective moral truth is something that you can carry with you no matter where

you can carry with you no matter where

you can carry with you no matter where or when you go in time and space and you

or when you go in time and space and you

or when you go in time and space and you can still believe in those things and

can still believe in those things and

can still believe in those things and they are objectively true the issue with

they are objectively true the issue with

they are objectively true the issue with faith based or ideology based morality

faith based or ideology based morality

faith based or ideology based morality is that it’s culturally based and I

is that it’s culturally based and I

is that it’s culturally based and I won’t single out any religion yeah

won’t single out any religion yeah

won’t single out any religion yeah actually I will I’ll use ancient Greek

actually I will I’ll use ancient Greek

actually I will I’ll use ancient Greek religion because I don’t think there’s

religion because I don’t think there’s

religion because I don’t think there’s any worshippers of Zeus in that audience

any worshippers of Zeus in that audience

any worshippers of Zeus in that audience right and if you are I apologize I will

right and if you are I apologize I will

right and if you are I apologize I will not be sacrificing a goat to your God to

not be sacrificing a goat to your God to

not be sacrificing a goat to your God to appease him but let’s look at ancient

appease him but let’s look at ancient

appease him but let’s look at ancient Greece everything about the ancient

Greece everything about the ancient

Greece everything about the ancient Greek gods was Greek they did the exact

Greek gods was Greek they did the exact

Greek gods was Greek they did the exact same thing the Greeks did they laid

same thing the Greeks did they laid

same thing the Greeks did they laid around and drank wine and had wonder its

around and drank wine and had wonder its

around and drank wine and had wonder its battles and and you know and so on and

battles and and you know and so on and

battles and and you know and so on and so forth it was exactly like Greek

so forth it was exactly like Greek

so forth it was exactly like Greek culture the God and the same can be said

culture the God and the same can be said

culture the God and the same can be said with every religion and ideology based

with every religion and ideology based

with every religion and ideology based faith in the world so what’s the issue

faith in the world so what’s the issue

faith in the world so what’s the issue with that cultures don’t usually like to

with that cultures don’t usually like to

with that cultures don’t usually like to agree with one another and they usually

agree with one another and they usually

agree with one another and they usually like to believe that

like to believe that

like to believe that right and so when two people think

right and so when two people think

right and so when two people think they’re right or two cultures think

they’re right or two cultures think

they’re right or two cultures think they’re right usually good things do not

they’re right usually good things do not

they’re right usually good things do not happen usually bad things and the

happen usually bad things and the

happen usually bad things and the problem with that is that if you’re

problem with that is that if you’re

problem with that is that if you’re looking for objective moral truths and

looking for objective moral truths and

looking for objective moral truths and you use faith to justify them you’re

you use faith to justify them you’re

you use faith to justify them you’re actually breeding moral relativism and

actually breeding moral relativism and

actually breeding moral relativism and well moral relativism is

well moral relativism is

well moral relativism is counterproductive to having morality

counterproductive to having morality

counterproductive to having morality that can span time and space it’s an

that can span time and space it’s an

that can span time and space it’s an issue now science on the other hand

issue now science on the other hand

issue now science on the other hand deals in objectivity there’s no Japanese

deals in objectivity there’s no Japanese

deals in objectivity there’s no Japanese chemistry

chemistry

chemistry there’s no Brazilian physics if I went

there’s no Brazilian physics if I went

there’s no Brazilian physics if I went to a physics talk and I said well this

to a physics talk and I said well this

to a physics talk and I said well this whole gravity deal it’s a good idea but

whole gravity deal it’s a good idea but

whole gravity deal it’s a good idea but I think that things should move away

I think that things should move away

I think that things should move away from each other rather than towards each

from each other rather than towards each

from each other rather than towards each other I’d be laughed out of that

other I’d be laughed out of that

other I’d be laughed out of that conference these are objective truths

conference these are objective truths

conference these are objective truths the laws of physics and laws of

the laws of physics and laws of

the laws of physics and laws of chemistry are objective no matter which

chemistry are objective no matter which

chemistry are objective no matter which way you look at it you can’t say that

way you look at it you can’t say that

way you look at it you can’t say that water is made out of special oxygen and

water is made out of special oxygen and

water is made out of special oxygen and special hydrogen hydrogen so if we can

special hydrogen hydrogen so if we can

special hydrogen hydrogen so if we can if we can get moral values from the

if we can get moral values from the

if we can get moral values from the scientific method it is possible to find

scientific method it is possible to find

scientific method it is possible to find that these moral values would be

that these moral values would be

that these moral values would be objective no matter where you go because

objective no matter where you go because

objective no matter where you go because that’s what science deals it so I want

that’s what science deals it so I want

that’s what science deals it so I want to focus on biology to propose this this

to focus on biology to propose this this

to focus on biology to propose this this new type of morality in the pinnacle of

new type of morality in the pinnacle of

new type of morality in the pinnacle of biology is of course evolution now the

biology is of course evolution now the

biology is of course evolution now the problem most people have with a secular

problem most people have with a secular

problem most people have with a secular Darwinistic type of finding a way to be

Darwinistic type of finding a way to be

Darwinistic type of finding a way to be moral is that a lot of people think that

moral is that a lot of people think that

moral is that a lot of people think that the famous line survival of the fittest

the famous line survival of the fittest

the famous line survival of the fittest they kind of don’t understand what

they kind of don’t understand what

they kind of don’t understand what Fitness means in the natural world they

Fitness means in the natural world they

Fitness means in the natural world they think that if we resort to Darwinism to

think that if we resort to Darwinism to

think that if we resort to Darwinism to get our moral values then everyone will

get our moral values then everyone will

get our moral values then everyone will be killing each other in the streets

be killing each other in the streets

be killing each other in the streets because they’re the biggest they’re the

because they’re the biggest they’re the

because they’re the biggest they’re the strongest and I’m weaker so Byard the

strongest and I’m weaker so Byard the

strongest and I’m weaker so Byard the right of nature they should kill me but

right of nature they should kill me but

right of nature they should kill me but that’s not what it’s not what Fitness

that’s not what it’s not what Fitness

that’s not what it’s not what Fitness means Fitness is not brute force its

means Fitness is not brute force its

means Fitness is not brute force its adaptability and in my opinion nothing

adaptability and in my opinion nothing

adaptability and in my opinion nothing makes you more adaptable

makes you more adaptable

makes you more adaptable then apply to telogen not just

then apply to telogen not just

then apply to telogen not just intelligence cuz I’m sure you know

intelligence cuz I’m sure you know

intelligence cuz I’m sure you know someone who’s very intelligent but also

someone who’s very intelligent but also

someone who’s very intelligent but also very dumb but applied intelligence makes

very dumb but applied intelligence makes

very dumb but applied intelligence makes you the most adaptable creature on the

you the most adaptable creature on the

you the most adaptable creature on the planet in fact we’re so adaptable we’re

planet in fact we’re so adaptable we’re

planet in fact we’re so adaptable we’re so intelligent and I like to think the

so intelligent and I like to think the

so intelligent and I like to think the humans are intelligent despite some

humans are intelligent despite some

humans are intelligent despite some political yeah you might look at

political yeah you might look at

political yeah you might look at political figures and think that maybe

political figures and think that maybe

political figures and think that maybe they’re not that intelligent but I’d

they’re not that intelligent but I’d

they’re not that intelligent but I’d like to think we’re pretty smart and in

like to think we’re pretty smart and in

like to think we’re pretty smart and in fact we’re so smart that we don’t even

fact we’re so smart that we don’t even

fact we’re so smart that we don’t even have to genetically grow for a cotan to

have to genetically grow for a cotan to

have to genetically grow for a cotan to live in the Arctic although I’m growing

live in the Arctic although I’m growing

live in the Arctic although I’m growing my fur coat right now we don’t have to

my fur coat right now we don’t have to

my fur coat right now we don’t have to do that

do that

do that they live in cold places anymore it

they live in cold places anymore it

they live in cold places anymore it doesn’t take millions of years of

doesn’t take millions of years of

doesn’t take millions of years of evolution to live all across the globe

evolution to live all across the globe

evolution to live all across the globe we don’t have to grow gills to live near

we don’t have to grow gills to live near

we don’t have to grow gills to live near the coast it’s because we’re smart

the coast it’s because we’re smart

the coast it’s because we’re smart enough to adapt just the way we are so

enough to adapt just the way we are so

enough to adapt just the way we are so nothing makes you more adaptable than

nothing makes you more adaptable than

nothing makes you more adaptable than applied intelligence and in my opinion

applied intelligence and in my opinion

applied intelligence and in my opinion there’s nothing more intelligent than

there’s nothing more intelligent than

there’s nothing more intelligent than having mutual responsibility for one

having mutual responsibility for one

having mutual responsibility for one another there’s always it’s always a

another there’s always it’s always a

another there’s always it’s always a good idea to have someone watching your

good idea to have someone watching your

good idea to have someone watching your back and to expend a little bit of

back and to expend a little bit of

back and to expend a little bit of energy to watch their back in the hopes

energy to watch their back in the hopes

energy to watch their back in the hopes that together you’ll be able to survive

that together you’ll be able to survive

that together you’ll be able to survive this whole deal because I’m not going to

this whole deal because I’m not going to

this whole deal because I’m not going to be able to take the world on by myself

be able to take the world on by myself

be able to take the world on by myself and neither are you and neither is

and neither are you and neither is

and neither are you and neither is anything or anybody and so the more

anything or anybody and so the more

anything or anybody and so the more people that you have mutual

people that you have mutual

people that you have mutual responsibility for the easier it will be

responsibility for the easier it will be

responsibility for the easier it will be to survive in this thing we call life

to survive in this thing we call life

to survive in this thing we call life and it’s really hard to be responsible

and it’s really hard to be responsible

and it’s really hard to be responsible for something if you’re not concerned

for something if you’re not concerned

for something if you’re not concerned for it for instance it’s extremely hard

for it for instance it’s extremely hard

for it for instance it’s extremely hard for someone to do their math homework if

for someone to do their math homework if

for someone to do their math homework if they don’t give a damn about it I’m

they don’t give a damn about it I’m

they don’t give a damn about it I’m sorry mom but it’s extremely boring I’m

sorry mom but it’s extremely boring I’m

sorry mom but it’s extremely boring I’m not concerned about it at all and so it

not concerned about it at all and so it

not concerned about it at all and so it would make evolutionary sense to have

would make evolutionary sense to have

would make evolutionary sense to have biological foundations for caring about

biological foundations for caring about

biological foundations for caring about one another it makes sense if I don’t

one another it makes sense if I don’t

one another it makes sense if I don’t care about you I’m probably not gonna

care about you I’m probably not gonna

care about you I’m probably not gonna take responsibility for you and you need

take responsibility for you and you need

take responsibility for you and you need my help and vice versa and so if we can

my help and vice versa and so if we can

my help and vice versa and so if we can start caring about each other it’ll be

start caring about each other it’ll be

start caring about each other it’ll be much easier for both of us to survive

much easier for both of us to survive

much easier for both of us to survive and have children and our families will

and have children and our families will

and have children and our families will get bigger and we’ll all be able to

get bigger and we’ll all be able to

get bigger and we’ll all be able to survive and with happy lives what does

survive and with happy lives what does

survive and with happy lives what does this mean for morality I don’t think

this mean for morality I don’t think

this mean for morality I don’t think it’s a very big step

it’s a very big step

it’s a very big step from in CERN to carry and from carrying

from in CERN to carry and from carrying

from in CERN to carry and from carrying to morality in again using the working

to morality in again using the working

to morality in again using the working definition we had early in earlier in

definition we had early in earlier in

definition we had early in earlier in the presentation caring for all sentient

the presentation caring for all sentient

the presentation caring for all sentient creatures not just ourselves because the

creatures not just ourselves because the

creatures not just ourselves because the more we learn the more we begin to

more we learn the more we begin to

more we learn the more we begin to understand that without all the other

understand that without all the other

understand that without all the other creatures appear we’d all be dead I mean

creatures appear we’d all be dead I mean

creatures appear we’d all be dead I mean for God’s sakes products from bees if

for God’s sakes products from bees if

for God’s sakes products from bees if the bees died a lot of people are gonna

the bees died a lot of people are gonna

the bees died a lot of people are gonna die

die

die seriously look it up but the more we

seriously look it up but the more we

seriously look it up but the more we start to understand the world we live in

start to understand the world we live in

start to understand the world we live in the more moral or allowed to be and so

the more moral or allowed to be and so

the more moral or allowed to be and so I’d like to leave you today by asking

I’d like to leave you today by asking

I’d like to leave you today by asking you a question what do you think I mean

you a question what do you think I mean

you a question what do you think I mean if there’s anything that you can take

if there’s anything that you can take

if there’s anything that you can take from this talk I don’t want you to think

from this talk I don’t want you to think

from this talk I don’t want you to think that I’m telling me what to believe the

that I’m telling me what to believe the

that I’m telling me what to believe the good thing about science is that it

good thing about science is that it

good thing about science is that it teaches you how to think it doesn’t tell

teaches you how to think it doesn’t tell

teaches you how to think it doesn’t tell you what to think and I think that it

you what to think and I think that it

you what to think and I think that it would be a good idea for us to think

would be a good idea for us to think

would be a good idea for us to think critically to understand the world we

critically to understand the world we

critically to understand the world we live in the only way we’re gonna be

live in the only way we’re gonna be

live in the only way we’re gonna be truly moral is to understand what we’re

truly moral is to understand what we’re

truly moral is to understand what we’re doing you can’t be moral in a vacuum if

doing you can’t be moral in a vacuum if

doing you can’t be moral in a vacuum if I don’t understand the rules of football

I don’t understand the rules of football

I don’t understand the rules of football then I’m not gonna play good football

then I’m not gonna play good football

then I’m not gonna play good football you know if I go to if I go to Argentina

you know if I go to if I go to Argentina

you know if I go to if I go to Argentina or whatever I say let’s play football

or whatever I say let’s play football

or whatever I say let’s play football and they start kicking it around with

and they start kicking it around with

and they start kicking it around with their feet that’s not football

their feet that’s not football

their feet that’s not football it’s so objectively just because

it’s so objectively just because

it’s so objectively just because morality might be an accident of

morality might be an accident of

morality might be an accident of evolution that doesn’t mean that it

evolution that doesn’t mean that it

evolution that doesn’t mean that it can’t have objectivity football is an

can’t have objectivity football is an

can’t have objectivity football is an accident of American culture and it does

accident of American culture and it does

accident of American culture and it does have objective rules and values so don’t

have objective rules and values so don’t

have objective rules and values so don’t be afraid of morality being something

be afraid of morality being something

be afraid of morality being something that was an accident because it does

that was an accident because it does

that was an accident because it does exist but it might not be missing a

exist but it might not be missing a

exist but it might not be missing a metaphysical so if there’s one thing you

metaphysical so if there’s one thing you

metaphysical so if there’s one thing you can take it should be that the

can take it should be that the

can take it should be that the scientific process and the scientific

scientific process and the scientific

scientific process and the scientific method can make you more moral and if I

method can make you more moral and if I

method can make you more moral and if I can submit to you if you want

can submit to you if you want

can submit to you if you want objectivity in your moral values you can

objectivity in your moral values you can

objectivity in your moral values you can have that we can only have it through

have that we can only have it through

have that we can only have it through the one objective based process that we

the one objective based process that we

the one objective based process that we currently have access

currently have access

currently have access and that’s the scientific method thanks

and that’s the scientific method thanks

and that’s the scientific method thanks [Applause]

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