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Why Proper Grammar is Harmful to Society | Phil Duncan | TEDxKU


alright there we are to begin I need to

alright there we are to begin I need to give everybody a little key now face

give everybody a little key now face

give everybody a little key now face that you see here you kind of need to

that you see here you kind of need to

that you see here you kind of need to know what that is for at least a few of

know what that is for at least a few of

know what that is for at least a few of the slides it’s the face of Alex Mendes

the slides it’s the face of Alex Mendes

the slides it’s the face of Alex Mendes from twitch TV you can look at it up

from twitch TV you can look at it up

from twitch TV you can look at it up later but it’s called a twitch emotes

later but it’s called a twitch emotes

later but it’s called a twitch emotes and it’s basically kind of like an emoji

and it’s basically kind of like an emoji

and it’s basically kind of like an emoji but in a particular domain and this one

but in a particular domain and this one

but in a particular domain and this one means something like shocked surprised

means something like shocked surprised

means something like shocked surprised or bewilderment it’s called what face

or bewilderment it’s called what face

or bewilderment it’s called what face you can look it up fun later

you can look it up fun later

you can look it up fun later but you need to know what it means to

but you need to know what it means to

but you need to know what it means to get through the rest of this talk now

get through the rest of this talk now

get through the rest of this talk now all of us at some point have been

all of us at some point have been

all of us at some point have been corrected for something that we’ve said

corrected for something that we’ve said

corrected for something that we’ve said whether it’s who were a child and we’re

whether it’s who were a child and we’re

whether it’s who were a child and we’re about to wet our pants and we say can I

about to wet our pants and we say can I

about to wet our pants and we say can I go to the bathroom and some of them

go to the bathroom and some of them

go to the bathroom and some of them retorts I don’t know can you or if we’re

retorts I don’t know can you or if we’re

retorts I don’t know can you or if we’re talking to our friends and we say oh my

talking to our friends and we say oh my

talking to our friends and we say oh my gosh I literally died and they pretend

gosh I literally died and they pretend

gosh I literally died and they pretend like they’re inigo montoya from The

like they’re inigo montoya from The

like they’re inigo montoya from The Princess Bride and say you keep using

Princess Bride and say you keep using

Princess Bride and say you keep using that word I don’t think it means what

that word I don’t think it means what

that word I don’t think it means what you think it means and really no one is

you think it means and really no one is

you think it means and really no one is safe it doesn’t matter how educated you

safe it doesn’t matter how educated you

safe it doesn’t matter how educated you are it doesn’t matter how successful you

are it doesn’t matter how successful you

are it doesn’t matter how successful you are

are

are recently LeBron James experiencing

recently LeBron James experiencing

recently LeBron James experiencing something similar on Twitter when he

something similar on Twitter when he

something similar on Twitter when he tweets you bummed at Stephen Curry 30

tweets you bummed at Stephen Curry 30

tweets you bummed at Stephen Curry 30 already said he ain’t going so therefore

already said he ain’t going so therefore

already said he ain’t going so therefore ain’t no invite going to the White House

ain’t no invite going to the White House

ain’t no invite going to the White House was a great honor until you showed up

was a great honor until you showed up

was a great honor until you showed up and Mark dice who identifies himself as

and Mark dice who identifies himself as

and Mark dice who identifies himself as a media analyst says isn’t going as the

a media analyst says isn’t going as the

a media analyst says isn’t going as the proper grammar look Ron you sure can

proper grammar look Ron you sure can

proper grammar look Ron you sure can bounce the ball but putting together a

bounce the ball but putting together a

bounce the ball but putting together a proper sentence just isn’t your thing

proper sentence just isn’t your thing

proper sentence just isn’t your thing sad and I think we’ve all been put in

sad and I think we’ve all been put in

sad and I think we’ve all been put in this place and what we want to say is

this place and what we want to say is

this place and what we want to say is kind of something like what this person

kind of something like what this person

kind of something like what this person said in defense of LeBron yo mark don’t

said in defense of LeBron yo mark don’t

said in defense of LeBron yo mark don’t be a D who cares it’s social media you

be a D who cares it’s social media you

be a D who cares it’s social media you idiot no one uses proper grammar on

idiot no one uses proper grammar on

idiot no one uses proper grammar on social media sites anyway and this last

social media sites anyway and this last

social media sites anyway and this last sentence I’m gonna sort of step to the

sentence I’m gonna sort of step to the

sentence I’m gonna sort of step to the side of it not focus on but this idea

side of it not focus on but this idea

side of it not focus on but this idea that on the one hand would work

that on the one hand would work

that on the one hand would work corrected typically we hate it but on

corrected typically we hate it but on

corrected typically we hate it but on the other hand there’s this interesting

the other hand there’s this interesting

the other hand there’s this interesting tension because even though we hate

tension because even though we hate

tension because even though we hate being corrected we still feel like it’s

being corrected we still feel like it’s

being corrected we still feel like it’s right and it’s honorable and virtuous to

right and it’s honorable and virtuous to

right and it’s honorable and virtuous to correct what we see is bad grammar so

correct what we see is bad grammar so

correct what we see is bad grammar so much so that we have cottage industries

much so that we have cottage industries

much so that we have cottage industries of products like mugs and t-shirts and

of products like mugs and t-shirts and

of products like mugs and t-shirts and bumper stickers promoting certain ways

bumper stickers promoting certain ways

bumper stickers promoting certain ways of speaking we have memes alpha wazoo

of speaking we have memes alpha wazoo

of speaking we have memes alpha wazoo we have apps that as you type will

we have apps that as you type will

we have apps that as you type will automatically correct what you’re

automatically correct what you’re

automatically correct what you’re speaking in

speaking in

speaking in case for seeing things saying things

case for seeing things saying things

case for seeing things saying things like I’m just writing to say that I’m

like I’m just writing to say that I’m

like I’m just writing to say that I’m sorry I’m no expert but and supposedly

sorry I’m no expert but and supposedly

sorry I’m no expert but and supposedly this is going to devalue your message

this is going to devalue your message

this is going to devalue your message and so we have this really interesting

and so we have this really interesting

and so we have this really interesting tension between the fact that we hate

tension between the fact that we hate

tension between the fact that we hate being corrected but at the same time we

being corrected but at the same time we

being corrected but at the same time we think that it’s right because most of us

think that it’s right because most of us

think that it’s right because most of us really are taught not to question

really are taught not to question

really are taught not to question grammar grammar is this thing that’s

grammar grammar is this thing that’s

grammar grammar is this thing that’s just objective and out there and just

just objective and out there and just

just objective and out there and just the way that society works so I’m you

the way that society works so I’m you

the way that society works so I’m you know the title of this talk is why

know the title of this talk is why

know the title of this talk is why proper grammar is harmful to society so

proper grammar is harmful to society so

proper grammar is harmful to society so I need to do a little bit of explaining

I need to do a little bit of explaining

I need to do a little bit of explaining that’s what I mean by proper grammar now

that’s what I mean by proper grammar now

that’s what I mean by proper grammar now most of us I’m assuming have the

most of us I’m assuming have the

most of us I’m assuming have the standard operating definition that

standard operating definition that

standard operating definition that proper grammar is really all about right

proper grammar is really all about right

proper grammar is really all about right and wrong ways to speak right and wrong

and wrong ways to speak right and wrong

and wrong ways to speak right and wrong ways to use language but a perspective

ways to use language but a perspective

ways to use language but a perspective that’s oftentimes found in linguistics

that’s oftentimes found in linguistics

that’s oftentimes found in linguistics is that this isn’t a real thing but

is that this isn’t a real thing but

is that this isn’t a real thing but proper grammar is really the myth that

proper grammar is really the myth that

proper grammar is really the myth that there actually are right and rape or out

there actually are right and rape or out

there actually are right and rape or out wrong ways to talk in the academic world

wrong ways to talk in the academic world

wrong ways to talk in the academic world we typically talk about this in in the

we typically talk about this in in the

we typically talk about this in in the terms of standard language ideologies

terms of standard language ideologies

terms of standard language ideologies now that’s a very broad thing and it

now that’s a very broad thing and it

now that’s a very broad thing and it takes shape in many different ways in

takes shape in many different ways in

takes shape in many different ways in many different cultures and communities

many different cultures and communities

many different cultures and communities but by and large this talk is about

but by and large this talk is about

but by and large this talk is about standard language ideologies that result

standard language ideologies that result

standard language ideologies that result in particular hierarchies and social

in particular hierarchies and social

in particular hierarchies and social stratification that is basically a

stratification that is basically a

stratification that is basically a particular species that finds expression

particular species that finds expression

particular species that finds expression in the United States and some other

in the United States and some other

in the United States and some other places as well now we can ask a lot of

places as well now we can ask a lot of

places as well now we can ask a lot of questions about proper grammar some

questions about proper grammar some

questions about proper grammar some people focus on the structure of

people focus on the structure of

people focus on the structure of different grammatical things I’m a

different grammatical things I’m a

different grammatical things I’m a linguistic a nerd I’d love to do that I

linguistic a nerd I’d love to do that I

linguistic a nerd I’d love to do that I don’t think everyone will be as excited

don’t think everyone will be as excited

don’t think everyone will be as excited here to hear about those things so I’m

here to hear about those things so I’m

here to hear about those things so I’m not gonna focus on that one other

not gonna focus on that one other

not gonna focus on that one other interesting question is how do we come

interesting question is how do we come

interesting question is how do we come to acquire these beliefs and a little

to acquire these beliefs and a little

to acquire these beliefs and a little bit of that is implicit in this talk but

bit of that is implicit in this talk but

bit of that is implicit in this talk but by and large I’m going to focus on the

by and large I’m going to focus on the

by and large I’m going to focus on the second and third points here what are

second and third points here what are

second and third points here what are the basis for the beliefs that we have

the basis for the beliefs that we have

the basis for the beliefs that we have about what constitutes proper grammar or

about what constitutes proper grammar or

about what constitutes proper grammar or what constitutes improper grammar and

what constitutes improper grammar and

what constitutes improper grammar and then how does this notion of proper

then how does this notion of proper

then how does this notion of proper grammar actually impact our ability to

grammar actually impact our ability to

grammar actually impact our ability to value and appreciate diversity now

value and appreciate diversity now

value and appreciate diversity now another thing that I needed to say from

another thing that I needed to say from

another thing that I needed to say from the outset is I’m really not going for

the outset is I’m really not going for

the outset is I’m really not going for points of novelty here you can kind of

points of novelty here you can kind of

points of novelty here you can kind of interpret what I’m going to do is

interpret what I’m going to do is

interpret what I’m going to do is basically my version or my take on a

basically my version or my take on a

basically my version or my take on a linguistics public service announcement

linguistics public service announcement

linguistics public service announcement that’s been going on for decades and

that’s been going on for decades and

that’s been going on for decades and some of the constructions that I’m going

some of the constructions that I’m going

some of the constructions that I’m going to focus on here you see in the first

to focus on here you see in the first

to focus on here you see in the first two weeks

two weeks

two weeks ampuls what we call commonly double

ampuls what we call commonly double

ampuls what we call commonly double negatives where we have just loosely

negatives where we have just loosely

negatives where we have just loosely define as more than one instance and

define as more than one instance and

define as more than one instance and negation and something like a sentence

negation and something like a sentence

negation and something like a sentence and the other example that I’m gonna

and the other example that I’m gonna

and the other example that I’m gonna focus on is when some people use the

focus on is when some people use the

focus on is when some people use the verb that means to inquire and it’s

verb that means to inquire and it’s

verb that means to inquire and it’s pronounced ax as opposed to ask which is

pronounced ax as opposed to ask which is

pronounced ax as opposed to ask which is maybe what many of us say and the reason

maybe what many of us say and the reason

maybe what many of us say and the reason that I want to focus on B’s too is

that I want to focus on B’s too is

that I want to focus on B’s too is because oftentimes they trigger very

because oftentimes they trigger very

because oftentimes they trigger very very emotional reactions and over the

very emotional reactions and over the

very emotional reactions and over the years since I’ve been in linguistics

years since I’ve been in linguistics

years since I’ve been in linguistics I’ve come across many people that have

I’ve come across many people that have

I’ve come across many people that have very very strong negative reactions

very very strong negative reactions

very very strong negative reactions these two forms in particular and so

these two forms in particular and so

these two forms in particular and so this talk is really built from in an

this talk is really built from in an

this talk is really built from in an outworking of all these conversations

outworking of all these conversations

outworking of all these conversations that I’ve been having for the past you

that I’ve been having for the past you

that I’ve been having for the past you know 10 or more years in studying

know 10 or more years in studying

know 10 or more years in studying linguistics and that’s partly driven by

linguistics and that’s partly driven by

linguistics and that’s partly driven by nobody knows what a linguist actually

nobody knows what a linguist actually

nobody knows what a linguist actually does I sure didn’t before I got into it

does I sure didn’t before I got into it

does I sure didn’t before I got into it but the idea I think we have is that

but the idea I think we have is that

but the idea I think we have is that okay linguists must be a person who

okay linguists must be a person who

okay linguists must be a person who professionally studies language

professionally studies language

professionally studies language therefore they’re really all about

therefore they’re really all about

therefore they’re really all about writing wrong ways to speak and that’s

writing wrong ways to speak and that’s

writing wrong ways to speak and that’s not necessarily the case but that means

not necessarily the case but that means

not necessarily the case but that means you get approached all the time asking

you get approached all the time asking

you get approached all the time asking well why should what should or shouldn’t

well why should what should or shouldn’t

well why should what should or shouldn’t people say this or that or that kind of

people say this or that or that kind of

people say this or that or that kind of thing but these are the kind of

thing but these are the kind of

thing but these are the kind of constructions that are going to be

constructions that are going to be

constructions that are going to be focusing on today though we could use a

focusing on today though we could use a

focusing on today though we could use a lot of different examples to basically

lot of different examples to basically

lot of different examples to basically craft the same type of point so what I’m

craft the same type of point so what I’m

craft the same type of point so what I’m going to do is basically walk through

going to do is basically walk through

going to do is basically walk through very common arguments that I’ve

very common arguments that I’ve

very common arguments that I’ve experienced against these forms why we

experienced against these forms why we

experienced against these forms why we should avoid them and why they’re

should avoid them and why they’re

should avoid them and why they’re improper and talk about whether or not

improper and talk about whether or not

improper and talk about whether or not they’re valid and then really consider

they’re valid and then really consider

they’re valid and then really consider what are the social implications for

what are the social implications for

what are the social implications for these beliefs afterwards so by and large

these beliefs afterwards so by and large

these beliefs afterwards so by and large in my experience the most common thing

in my experience the most common thing

in my experience the most common thing that I hear for why we shouldn’t use

that I hear for why we shouldn’t use

that I hear for why we shouldn’t use double negatives is that they’re

double negatives is that they’re

double negatives is that they’re illogical and this is based on an idea

illogical and this is based on an idea

illogical and this is based on an idea that was promulgated about 300 years ago

that was promulgated about 300 years ago

that was promulgated about 300 years ago made famous in these grammars that were

made famous in these grammars that were

made famous in these grammars that were used in in schools all throughout the

used in in schools all throughout the

used in in schools all throughout the United States in the UK that if you have

United States in the UK that if you have

United States in the UK that if you have a negative plus a negative and language

a negative plus a negative and language

a negative plus a negative and language it cancels each other out and you get a

it cancels each other out and you get a

it cancels each other out and you get a positive and I think all of us have

positive and I think all of us have

positive and I think all of us have probably been taught this at school one

probably been taught this at school one

probably been taught this at school one basic problem of this is that if we look

basic problem of this is that if we look

basic problem of this is that if we look at the linguistic situation around the

at the linguistic situation around the

at the linguistic situation around the globe so this is a map from a site

globe so this is a map from a site

globe so this is a map from a site called the world atlas of language

called the world atlas of language

called the world atlas of language structures online and it’s instances of

structures online and it’s instances of

structures online and it’s instances of languages that behave differently

languages that behave differently

languages that behave differently depending on if you have what’s called a

depending on if you have what’s called a

depending on if you have what’s called a negative indefinite pronoun which is a

negative indefinite pronoun which is a

negative indefinite pronoun which is a word like nobody or no one or nothing

word like nobody or no one or nothing

word like nobody or no one or nothing and whether or not you have to have

and whether or not you have to have

and whether or not you have to have another thing in the sentence that

another thing in the sentence that

another thing in the sentence that actually includes negation so for

actually includes negation so for

actually includes negation so for example if I say I don’t want nothing

example if I say I don’t want nothing

example if I say I don’t want nothing I’ve got a negative pronoun and I’ve got

I’ve got a negative pronoun and I’ve got

I’ve got a negative pronoun and I’ve got negative on the negative instance on the

negative on the negative instance on the

negative on the negative instance on the bird do as well and out of about 200

bird do as well and out of about 200

bird do as well and out of about 200 languages that are sampled here the ones

languages that are sampled here the ones

languages that are sampled here the ones in blue are ones that you have to have

in blue are ones that you have to have

in blue are ones that you have to have both negation on the indefinite pronoun

both negation on the indefinite pronoun

both negation on the indefinite pronoun and negation somewhere else so you can

and negation somewhere else so you can

and negation somewhere else so you can think of these these are languages that

think of these these are languages that

think of these these are languages that require more than one instance of

require more than one instance of

require more than one instance of negation languages like Spanish that if

negation languages like Spanish that if

negation languages like Spanish that if I want to say I don’t want to I don’t

I want to say I don’t want to I don’t

I want to say I don’t want to I don’t want something I literally have to say I

want something I literally have to say I

want something I literally have to say I don’t want nothing or else it’s going to

don’t want nothing or else it’s going to

don’t want nothing or else it’s going to be ungrammatical so if double negatives

be ungrammatical so if double negatives

be ungrammatical so if double negatives are really illogical then we should be

are really illogical then we should be

are really illogical then we should be baffled when we look at the world

baffled when we look at the world

baffled when we look at the world because there are hundreds of languages

because there are hundreds of languages

because there are hundreds of languages spoken across the globe who require

spoken across the globe who require

spoken across the globe who require double negation so this argument doesn’t

double negation so this argument doesn’t

double negation so this argument doesn’t seem to hold up very well the second

seem to hold up very well the second

seem to hold up very well the second argument is kind of a variation on this

argument is kind of a variation on this

argument is kind of a variation on this theme it’s built on the first assumption

theme it’s built on the first assumption

theme it’s built on the first assumption that I talked about last time that

that I talked about last time that

that I talked about last time that you’ve got negatives cancelling each

you’ve got negatives cancelling each

you’ve got negatives cancelling each other out and then the other assumption

other out and then the other assumption

other out and then the other assumption is it basically misinterpretation is

is it basically misinterpretation is

is it basically misinterpretation is going to abound as a result of this

going to abound as a result of this

going to abound as a result of this illogicality so by show of hands who is

illogicality so by show of hands who is

illogicality so by show of hands who is familiar with the song by Bruno Mars

familiar with the song by Bruno Mars

familiar with the song by Bruno Mars that’s what I like okay I so you are so

that’s what I like okay I so you are so

that’s what I like okay I so you are so when Bruno Mars belts out I will never

when Bruno Mars belts out I will never

when Bruno Mars belts out I will never make a promise that I can’t keep

make a promise that I can’t keep

make a promise that I can’t keep followed by I promise you your smile

followed by I promise you your smile

followed by I promise you your smile ain’t gonna never leave so are we

ain’t gonna never leave so are we

ain’t gonna never leave so are we supposed to get to the song and say so

supposed to get to the song and say so

supposed to get to the song and say so that’s what this song is about he’s

that’s what this song is about he’s

that’s what this song is about he’s actually promising this person that he’s

actually promising this person that he’s

actually promising this person that he’s going to make her unhappy and make her

going to make her unhappy and make her

going to make her unhappy and make her smile leave I mean nobody thinks that so

smile leave I mean nobody thinks that so

smile leave I mean nobody thinks that so this idea that they’re confusing doesn’t

this idea that they’re confusing doesn’t

this idea that they’re confusing doesn’t really seem to operate for most of us in

really seem to operate for most of us in

really seem to operate for most of us in the real world we can think of other

the real world we can think of other

the real world we can think of other songs like I love the bill where their

songs like I love the bill where their

songs like I love the bill where their songs ain’t no sunshine when she’s gone

songs ain’t no sunshine when she’s gone

songs ain’t no sunshine when she’s gone I mean this is a really soulful sad song

I mean this is a really soulful sad song

I mean this is a really soulful sad song but if double nations negation is

but if double nations negation is

but if double nations negation is supposed to be so confusing it should be

supposed to be so confusing it should be

supposed to be so confusing it should be really peppy I mean because basically

really peppy I mean because basically

really peppy I mean because basically this should be a song about I’m so happy

this should be a song about I’m so happy

this should be a song about I’m so happy that this woman is out of my life nobody

that this woman is out of my life nobody

that this woman is out of my life nobody interpreted it that way so it’s really

interpreted it that way so it’s really

interpreted it that way so it’s really this we have to actually force ourselves

this we have to actually force ourselves

this we have to actually force ourselves even if double negation is not a feature

even if double negation is not a feature

even if double negation is not a feature of our own dialect many of us actually

of our own dialect many of us actually

of our own dialect many of us actually have to force ourselves to pretend that

have to force ourselves to pretend that

have to force ourselves to pretend that we don’t understand what

we don’t understand what

we don’t understand what on when in reality there’s no confusion

on when in reality there’s no confusion

on when in reality there’s no confusion in the first place but what’s really

in the first place but what’s really

in the first place but what’s really interesting about this type of

interesting about this type of

interesting about this type of pretending is that we use this as a

pretending is that we use this as a

pretending is that we use this as a pretense we use it as a proxy for other

pretense we use it as a proxy for other

pretense we use it as a proxy for other things like gatekeeping when someone’s

things like gatekeeping when someone’s

things like gatekeeping when someone’s applying for a job now I came across

applying for a job now I came across

applying for a job now I came across this website a couple of years ago and

this website a couple of years ago and

this website a couple of years ago and often talked about it it’s an example in

often talked about it it’s an example in

often talked about it it’s an example in some of my classes this comes from the

some of my classes this comes from the

some of my classes this comes from the BBC website skill-wise which is math and

BBC website skill-wise which is math and

BBC website skill-wise which is math and English skills for an adult and you’re

English skills for an adult and you’re

English skills for an adult and you’re looking at varieties of English and here

looking at varieties of English and here

looking at varieties of English and here the game is you’re supposed to basically

the game is you’re supposed to basically

the game is you’re supposed to basically help this woman Johanna succeed in

help this woman Johanna succeed in

help this woman Johanna succeed in finding a job and you can do a variety

finding a job and you can do a variety

finding a job and you can do a variety of different things but when you start

of different things but when you start

of different things but when you start this you’re told don’t ever say things

this you’re told don’t ever say things

this you’re told don’t ever say things such as I never saw nothing because

such as I never saw nothing because

such as I never saw nothing because that’s confusing so you should say I

that’s confusing so you should say I

that’s confusing so you should say I never saw anything so they’re telling

never saw anything so they’re telling

never saw anything so they’re telling you essentially don’t use this form in a

you essentially don’t use this form in a

you essentially don’t use this form in a workplace environment don’t use this

workplace environment don’t use this

workplace environment don’t use this form when you’re applying for a job

form when you’re applying for a job

form when you’re applying for a job because it leads to confusion so you can

because it leads to confusion so you can

because it leads to confusion so you can choose a couple of different activities

choose a couple of different activities

choose a couple of different activities and the one that I chose to illustrate

and the one that I chose to illustrate

and the one that I chose to illustrate here who is helping Joanna succeed in

here who is helping Joanna succeed in

here who is helping Joanna succeed in the interview and you’re supposed to

the interview and you’re supposed to

the interview and you’re supposed to basically find the ones that have the

basically find the ones that have the

basically find the ones that have the double negative and make sure that you

double negative and make sure that you

double negative and make sure that you don’t ever use them so here the image

don’t ever use them so here the image

don’t ever use them so here the image itself is fascinating and something that

itself is fascinating and something that

itself is fascinating and something that we could probably pick apart but just

we could probably pick apart but just

we could probably pick apart but just looking at what said the person

looking at what said the person

looking at what said the person interviewing says I’m very interested in

interviewing says I’m very interested in

interviewing says I’m very interested in your experience that you have this

your experience that you have this

your experience that you have this previous job basically tell me more one

previous job basically tell me more one

previous job basically tell me more one of the responses is well I was a

of the responses is well I was a

of the responses is well I was a receptionist and I dealt well the

receptionist and I dealt well the

receptionist and I dealt well the visitors customers reps etc and then she

visitors customers reps etc and then she

visitors customers reps etc and then she goes on to say we never got no time to

goes on to say we never got no time to

goes on to say we never got no time to rest

rest

rest so never god no is an example of a

so never god no is an example of a

so never god no is an example of a double negative and I chose this option

double negative and I chose this option

double negative and I chose this option just to see what happens and you get

just to see what happens and you get

just to see what happens and you get this and you’ve chosen wrong way because

this and you’ve chosen wrong way because

this and you’ve chosen wrong way because sorry that’s the wrong choice she’s

sorry that’s the wrong choice she’s

sorry that’s the wrong choice she’s using two negatives never and no and

using two negatives never and no and

using two negatives never and no and that’s confusing even though again we

that’s confusing even though again we

that’s confusing even though again we all know they’re not really confusing in

all know they’re not really confusing in

all know they’re not really confusing in the real world even if it’s not a

the real world even if it’s not a

the real world even if it’s not a feature of our dialects so another

feature of our dialects so another

feature of our dialects so another argument that I commonly come across is

argument that I commonly come across is

argument that I commonly come across is well okay maybe it’s a feature of other

well okay maybe it’s a feature of other

well okay maybe it’s a feature of other languages but it’s just not a feature of

languages but it’s just not a feature of

languages but it’s just not a feature of English – English doesn’t or shouldn’t

English – English doesn’t or shouldn’t

English – English doesn’t or shouldn’t use them and so the argument to – rests

use them and so the argument to – rests

use them and so the argument to – rests on an assumption that double or multiple

on an assumption that double or multiple

on an assumption that double or multiple negation really just isn’t English or

negation really just isn’t English or

negation really just isn’t English or it’s English being messed up in some

it’s English being messed up in some

it’s English being messed up in some particular way this is a map that comes

particular way this is a map that comes

particular way this is a map that comes from the electronic world atlas of

from the electronic world atlas of

from the electronic world atlas of variation in English

variation in English

variation in English this shows a sample of about a hundred

this shows a sample of about a hundred

this shows a sample of about a hundred different varieties of English spoken

different varieties of English spoken

different varieties of English spoken across the globe and kind of similar to

across the globe and kind of similar to

across the globe and kind of similar to the property last time it’s basically

the property last time it’s basically

the property last time it’s basically does your variety of English require you

does your variety of English require you

does your variety of English require you to use multiple instances of negation

to use multiple instances of negation

to use multiple instances of negation and basically if you look at anything

and basically if you look at anything

and basically if you look at anything that’s marked in the red that is a

that’s marked in the red that is a

that’s marked in the red that is a variety of English where you must or

variety of English where you must or

variety of English where you must or usually have to have more than one

usually have to have more than one

usually have to have more than one instance of negation if you’re going to

instance of negation if you’re going to

instance of negation if you’re going to speak grammatically in that particular

speak grammatically in that particular

speak grammatically in that particular dialect so you do look today across the

dialect so you do look today across the

dialect so you do look today across the globe so take a synchronic slice of what

globe so take a synchronic slice of what

globe so take a synchronic slice of what English looks like it is absolutely a

English looks like it is absolutely a

English looks like it is absolutely a feature of English you find it in Welsh

feature of English you find it in Welsh

feature of English you find it in Welsh English you find it in Scottish English

English you find it in Scottish English

English you find it in Scottish English and if we look at diachronic lis and go

and if we look at diachronic lis and go

and if we look at diachronic lis and go back in history we find that double

back in history we find that double

back in history we find that double negation has basically been around since

negation has basically been around since

negation has basically been around since the existence of English double negation

the existence of English double negation

the existence of English double negation that has actually been around for over a

that has actually been around for over a

that has actually been around for over a millennia so here this example below is

millennia so here this example below is

millennia so here this example below is from wives of the saints it means that

from wives of the saints it means that

from wives of the saints it means that no troop could stand up to him but

no troop could stand up to him but

no troop could stand up to him but literally would be translated that no

literally would be translated that no

literally would be translated that no troop could not stand up to him and over

troop could not stand up to him and over

troop could not stand up to him and over a thousand years ago double negation was

a thousand years ago double negation was

a thousand years ago double negation was actually considered to be prestigious so

actually considered to be prestigious so

actually considered to be prestigious so we had a flip in the prestige prestige

we had a flip in the prestige prestige

we had a flip in the prestige prestige which shows us that there’s really

which shows us that there’s really

which shows us that there’s really nothing about this form itself that is

nothing about this form itself that is

nothing about this form itself that is innately good or bad it’s about the

innately good or bad it’s about the

innately good or bad it’s about the value that we attribute to the form and

value that we attribute to the form and

value that we attribute to the form and we’re finding out basically that value

we’re finding out basically that value

we’re finding out basically that value is oftentimes arbitrarily defined so all

is oftentimes arbitrarily defined so all

is oftentimes arbitrarily defined so all of these arguments don’t seem to hold

of these arguments don’t seem to hold

of these arguments don’t seem to hold water so we might begin well why do we

water so we might begin well why do we

water so we might begin well why do we hate double negation so much in the

hate double negation so much in the

hate double negation so much in the first place well let’s move on to Acts

first place well let’s move on to Acts

first place well let’s move on to Acts this is another one that often times you

this is another one that often times you

this is another one that often times you get very very strong reactions against

get very very strong reactions against

get very very strong reactions against so the first argument that I almost hear

so the first argument that I almost hear

so the first argument that I almost hear invariably is well it’s spelled ASX

invariably is well it’s spelled ASX

invariably is well it’s spelled ASX therefore it should be pronounced ax the

therefore it should be pronounced ax the

therefore it should be pronounced ax the basic assumption seems to be well in

basic assumption seems to be well in

basic assumption seems to be well in English the default is to spell words

English the default is to spell words

English the default is to spell words like they sound but here’s where Alex

like they sound but here’s where Alex

like they sound but here’s where Alex Mendez the space wutface is pretty

Mendez the space wutface is pretty

Mendez the space wutface is pretty helpful because we should be wildered

helpful because we should be wildered

helpful because we should be wildered about most words in the English language

about most words in the English language

about most words in the English language that don’t sound anything like they’re

that don’t sound anything like they’re

that don’t sound anything like they’re spelled the word night with a K at the

spelled the word night with a K at the

spelled the word night with a K at the beginning that’s silent how do we get

beginning that’s silent how do we get

beginning that’s silent how do we get away with that debt with a deep with a B

away with that debt with a deep with a B

away with that debt with a deep with a B in the middle of it that we don’t

in the middle of it that we don’t

in the middle of it that we don’t pronounce or all these pairs of words

pronounce or all these pairs of words

pronounce or all these pairs of words that look exactly the same but sound

that look exactly the same but sound

that look exactly the same but sound different like Reed and

different like Reed and

different like Reed and red and wind and wind and dove and dog

red and wind and wind and dove and dog

red and wind and wind and dove and dog and subject versus subject object versus

and subject versus subject object versus

and subject versus subject object versus object and so on and so forth

object and so on and so forth

object and so on and so forth now these things often tell it’s

now these things often tell it’s

now these things often tell it’s fascinating things about the history of

fascinating things about the history of

fascinating things about the history of English so for example a word like night

English so for example a word like night

English so for example a word like night that has that silent K at the beginning

that has that silent K at the beginning

that has that silent K at the beginning it doesn’t get pronounced anymore

it doesn’t get pronounced anymore

it doesn’t get pronounced anymore but it used to actually be pronounced

but it used to actually be pronounced

but it used to actually be pronounced something more along the lines of neat

something more along the lines of neat

something more along the lines of neat so at some point in history some of

so at some point in history some of

so at some point in history some of these silent letters might have actually

these silent letters might have actually

these silent letters might have actually been pronounced some of them like the

been pronounced some of them like the

been pronounced some of them like the peon receipt were added in later when

peon receipt were added in later when

peon receipt were added in later when people were so obsessed with Latin that

people were so obsessed with Latin that

people were so obsessed with Latin that they actually changed the way that that

they actually changed the way that that

they actually changed the way that that word was spelled to reflect the original

word was spelled to reflect the original

word was spelled to reflect the original Latin word even though we got it from

Latin word even though we got it from

Latin word even though we got it from influence from French so that doesn’t

influence from French so that doesn’t

influence from French so that doesn’t seem to be a good argument well the next

seem to be a good argument well the next

seem to be a good argument well the next one is that basically okay you know it’s

one is that basically okay you know it’s

one is that basically okay you know it’s still people switching the letters

still people switching the letters

still people switching the letters around people are messing up the way

around people are messing up the way

around people are messing up the way that it’s pronounced and this relies on

that it’s pronounced and this relies on

that it’s pronounced and this relies on the assumption that ask itself is a

the assumption that ask itself is a

the assumption that ask itself is a basic form and then basically when

basic form and then basically when

basic form and then basically when somebody says acts they’re doing what we

somebody says acts they’re doing what we

somebody says acts they’re doing what we call metathesis which is just a fancy

call metathesis which is just a fancy

call metathesis which is just a fancy word for taking sounds and switching

word for taking sounds and switching

word for taking sounds and switching them around so imagine that I’m in a job

them around so imagine that I’m in a job

them around so imagine that I’m in a job interview and I don’t know when this

interview and I don’t know when this

interview and I don’t know when this ever would happen but let’s say that

ever would happen but let’s say that

ever would happen but let’s say that somebody offered me a hundred grand it’s

somebody offered me a hundred grand it’s

somebody offered me a hundred grand it’s a salary and I say in this interview yes

a salary and I say in this interview yes

a salary and I say in this interview yes I would be comfortable with a hundred

I would be comfortable with a hundred

I would be comfortable with a hundred thousand as a starting salary so who

thousand as a starting salary so who

thousand as a starting salary so who noticed what I did there what was that

noticed what I did there what was that

noticed what I did there what was that so I did something different with the

so I did something different with the

so I did something different with the way that they’re pronounce the word

way that they’re pronounce the word

way that they’re pronounce the word comfortable which is normal for me

comfortable which is normal for me

comfortable which is normal for me or imagine if you’re in the doctor’s

or imagine if you’re in the doctor’s

or imagine if you’re in the doctor’s office and your doctor says to you

office and your doctor says to you

office and your doctor says to you please wait while I get your

please wait while I get your

please wait while I get your prescription what’s wrong with that well

prescription what’s wrong with that well

prescription what’s wrong with that well probably nobody notices what whatever it

probably nobody notices what whatever it

probably nobody notices what whatever it is I’m doing and it’s hard to find out

is I’m doing and it’s hard to find out

is I’m doing and it’s hard to find out but what’s actually happening is that

but what’s actually happening is that

but what’s actually happening is that I’m doing metaphysis instead of saying

I’m doing metaphysis instead of saying

I’m doing metaphysis instead of saying comfortable I’m saying come turrible and

comfortable I’m saying come turrible and

comfortable I’m saying come turrible and switching those sounds around instead of

switching those sounds around instead of

switching those sounds around instead of say a prescription I’m saying

say a prescription I’m saying

say a prescription I’m saying perscription and I’m switching those

perscription and I’m switching those

perscription and I’m switching those sounds around the odd thing about this

sounds around the odd thing about this

sounds around the odd thing about this is no one seems to notice and no one

is no one seems to notice and no one

is no one seems to notice and no one seems to care so again

seems to care so again

seems to care so again why are we so upset about acts and the

why are we so upset about acts and the

why are we so upset about acts and the funny thing is about Acts is that it’s

funny thing is about Acts is that it’s

funny thing is about Acts is that it’s actually not even metathesis it’s a

actually not even metathesis it’s a

actually not even metathesis it’s a really really really old form that’s

really really really old form that’s

really really really old form that’s been used for ever before I get to that

been used for ever before I get to that

been used for ever before I get to that point though

point though

point though the next argument that we get is well

the next argument that we get is well

the next argument that we get is well they’re confusing so kind of like double

they’re confusing so kind of like double

they’re confusing so kind of like double negation and the assumption is if

negation and the assumption is if

negation and the assumption is if somebody hears somebody say axe to me to

somebody hears somebody say axe to me to

somebody hears somebody say axe to me to inquire that they’re gonna think about

inquire that they’re gonna think about

inquire that they’re gonna think about the noun axe that you use to say cut

the noun axe that you use to say cut

the noun axe that you use to say cut down a tree or something like this and I

down a tree or something like this and I

down a tree or something like this and I don’t really have much to say about this

don’t really have much to say about this

don’t really have much to say about this argument because it seems to be so

argument because it seems to be so

argument because it seems to be so absurd that it doesn’t need much in its

absurd that it doesn’t need much in its

absurd that it doesn’t need much in its defense other than what face here so

defense other than what face here so

defense other than what face here so let’s move on to the fourth argument the

let’s move on to the fourth argument the

let’s move on to the fourth argument the fourth argument is well we have to have

fourth argument is well we have to have

fourth argument is well we have to have a single standard well that assumption

a single standard well that assumption

a single standard well that assumption seems to be based on the idea that

seems to be based on the idea that

seems to be based on the idea that variation itself leads to confusion now

variation itself leads to confusion now

variation itself leads to confusion now this is an example of a map that shows

this is an example of a map that shows

this is an example of a map that shows the distribution of ways that speakers

the distribution of ways that speakers

the distribution of ways that speakers in the United States pronounce the word

in the United States pronounce the word

in the United States pronounce the word that spelled B EE in and over on the

that spelled B EE in and over on the

that spelled B EE in and over on the left which you see is that more

left which you see is that more

left which you see is that more concentrated in the south people

concentrated in the south people

concentrated in the south people pronounce it as I do been same type of

pronounce it as I do been same type of

pronounce it as I do been same type of vowel sound a bit as opposed to further

vowel sound a bit as opposed to further

vowel sound a bit as opposed to further to the north people are more likely to

to the north people are more likely to

to the north people are more likely to pronounce it been with the vowel sound

pronounce it been with the vowel sound

pronounce it been with the vowel sound in a word like a bet no one is going to

in a word like a bet no one is going to

in a word like a bet no one is going to bat an eye about this variation and in

bat an eye about this variation and in

bat an eye about this variation and in fact some variation we’d love if

fact some variation we’d love if

fact some variation we’d love if somebody were in a job interview and

somebody were in a job interview and

somebody were in a job interview and they used a prestigious form or what we

they used a prestigious form or what we

they used a prestigious form or what we consider to be a prestigious form of

consider to be a prestigious form of

consider to be a prestigious form of British English we wouldn’t be confused

British English we wouldn’t be confused

British English we wouldn’t be confused at all in fact we might even think more

at all in fact we might even think more

at all in fact we might even think more highly of them because we kind of have a

highly of them because we kind of have a

highly of them because we kind of have a reverse belief about certain varieties

reverse belief about certain varieties

reverse belief about certain varieties of English that are spoken in England as

of English that are spoken in England as

of English that are spoken in England as if they’re better than what we speak

if they’re better than what we speak

if they’re better than what we speak over here so the idea that variation

over here so the idea that variation

over here so the idea that variation leads to confusion also doesn’t seem to

leads to confusion also doesn’t seem to

leads to confusion also doesn’t seem to hold the last argument is basically well

hold the last argument is basically well

hold the last argument is basically well it’s just simply not the right word axe

it’s just simply not the right word axe

it’s just simply not the right word axe isn’t a word and the assumption here is

isn’t a word and the assumption here is

isn’t a word and the assumption here is that it’s either not a word in English

that it’s either not a word in English

that it’s either not a word in English it never has been or it’s new so this

it never has been or it’s new so this

it never has been or it’s new so this came up recently when we’ve got Jennifer

came up recently when we’ve got Jennifer

came up recently when we’ve got Jennifer Hudson who has announced as the coat as

Hudson who has announced as the coat as

Hudson who has announced as the coat as a coach on the voice and someone

a coach on the voice and someone

a coach on the voice and someone responds please have her not say axe it

responds please have her not say axe it

responds please have her not say axe it will never be a word it is always asked

will never be a word it is always asked

will never be a word it is always asked well whoever wrote this tweet is

well whoever wrote this tweet is

well whoever wrote this tweet is actually a pretty ignorant of history if

actually a pretty ignorant of history if

actually a pretty ignorant of history if you go back and look for example 500

you go back and look for example 500

you go back and look for example 500 years ago in the Coverdale Bible and

years ago in the Coverdale Bible and

years ago in the Coverdale Bible and this is the famous passage from Matthew

this is the famous passage from Matthew

this is the famous passage from Matthew 7 that even if you’re not familiar with

7 that even if you’re not familiar with

7 that even if you’re not familiar with the Bible you’ve probably heard it’s

the Bible you’ve probably heard it’s

the Bible you’ve probably heard it’s from a famous passage called the

from a famous passage called the

from a famous passage called the Beatitudes and here Jesus says ask and

Beatitudes and here Jesus says ask and

Beatitudes and here Jesus says ask and it shall be given to you seek and you

it shall be given to you seek and you

it shall be given to you seek and you shall find we’re probably

shall find we’re probably

shall find we’re probably familiar that but in the Coverdale Bible

familiar that but in the Coverdale Bible

familiar that but in the Coverdale Bible it’s printed as you see on the right ax

it’s printed as you see on the right ax

it’s printed as you see on the right ax and it shall be given to you for

and it shall be given to you for

and it shall be given to you for whosoever accepts receiveth which if his

whosoever accepts receiveth which if his

whosoever accepts receiveth which if his son asks Axton bread would offer him a

son asks Axton bread would offer him a

son asks Axton bread would offer him a stone or if he Axton fish would proffer

stone or if he Axton fish would proffer

stone or if he Axton fish would proffer him a serpent and then lastly how much

him a serpent and then lastly how much

him a serpent and then lastly how much more shall your father which is in

more shall your father which is in

more shall your father which is in heaven give good things to those that ax

heaven give good things to those that ax

heaven give good things to those that ax him I mean obviously we don’t interpret

him I mean obviously we don’t interpret

him I mean obviously we don’t interpret this as anything other than to enquire

this as anything other than to enquire

this as anything other than to enquire and this is actually a very late

and this is actually a very late

and this is actually a very late instance of the verb ax in fact the ax

instance of the verb ax in fact the ax

instance of the verb ax in fact the ax version of this verb is more like the

version of this verb is more like the

version of this verb is more like the original which has been around for over

original which has been around for over

original which has been around for over a thousand years so when somebody today

a thousand years so when somebody today

a thousand years so when somebody today says ax they’re not messing the word up

says ax they’re not messing the word up

says ax they’re not messing the word up they’re using a historical form that has

they’re using a historical form that has

they’re using a historical form that has existed for over 1,000 years and for

existed for over 1,000 years and for

existed for over 1,000 years and for many analyses actually seems to predate

many analyses actually seems to predate

many analyses actually seems to predate the version of ask that many of us used

the version of ask that many of us used

the version of ask that many of us used today so again we’re confronted with all

today so again we’re confronted with all

today so again we’re confronted with all these defenses of this that don’t seem

these defenses of this that don’t seem

these defenses of this that don’t seem to hold any water so now the question is

to hold any water so now the question is

to hold any water so now the question is well what are we left to stand on you

well what are we left to stand on you

well what are we left to stand on you know if we really just don’t like double

know if we really just don’t like double

know if we really just don’t like double negation and ax what’s the argument and

negation and ax what’s the argument and

negation and ax what’s the argument and it seems basically that all were left

it seems basically that all were left

it seems basically that all were left with is well they’re wrong because

with is well they’re wrong because

with is well they’re wrong because they’re wrong

they’re wrong

they’re wrong so that’s circular argumentation or

so that’s circular argumentation or

so that’s circular argumentation or they’re just not standard although we

they’re just not standard although we

they’re just not standard although we basically seem to be finding out that

basically seem to be finding out that

basically seem to be finding out that the standard is something that’s not

the standard is something that’s not

the standard is something that’s not neutral it’s something that’s

neutral it’s something that’s

neutral it’s something that’s arbitrarily defined and as many have

arbitrarily defined and as many have

arbitrarily defined and as many have argued it’s something that’s politically

argued it’s something that’s politically

argued it’s something that’s politically defined so these seems to be something

defined so these seems to be something

defined so these seems to be something that we’re basically should just

that we’re basically should just

that we’re basically should just bewildered at do we really want to be

bewildered at do we really want to be

bewildered at do we really want to be left in the position where this is our

left in the position where this is our

left in the position where this is our defense

defense

defense you know circular reasoning and

you know circular reasoning and

you know circular reasoning and arbitrary definitions hopefully not so

arbitrary definitions hopefully not so

arbitrary definitions hopefully not so then we have to ask the question what is

then we have to ask the question what is

then we have to ask the question what is it we really don’t like about double

it we really don’t like about double

it we really don’t like about double negatives and ax in the next question

negatives and ax in the next question

negatives and ax in the next question which is hard for many of us might be is

which is hard for many of us might be is

which is hard for many of us might be is it really an issue with the forms or the

it really an issue with the forms or the

it really an issue with the forms or the people who use them or the people who we

people who use them or the people who we

people who use them or the people who we think use them and this is why it

think use them and this is why it

think use them and this is why it becomes such an important issue to think

becomes such an important issue to think

becomes such an important issue to think about the social impact because now

about the social impact because now

about the social impact because now we’re talking about our the way that we

we’re talking about our the way that we

we’re talking about our the way that we think about language directly relating

think about language directly relating

think about language directly relating to the way that we think about people

to the way that we think about people

to the way that we think about people who speak so what do we go from here

who speak so what do we go from here

who speak so what do we go from here well one takeaway that’s pretty simple

well one takeaway that’s pretty simple

well one takeaway that’s pretty simple is simply ain’t nothing wrong with

is simply ain’t nothing wrong with

is simply ain’t nothing wrong with double negatives and acts

double negatives and acts

double negatives and acts questions so that’s one sort of thing

questions so that’s one sort of thing

questions so that’s one sort of thing that if you believe would have had to

that if you believe would have had to

that if you believe would have had to say so far we could probably agree on

say so far we could probably agree on

say so far we could probably agree on but what about the bigger picture here

but what about the bigger picture here

but what about the bigger picture here well what’s at stake or real-world

well what’s at stake or real-world

well what’s at stake or real-world consequences that derive from implicit

consequences that derive from implicit

consequences that derive from implicit biases that we have based on these

biases that we have based on these

biases that we have based on these beliefs that results in what John ba has

beliefs that results in what John ba has

beliefs that results in what John ba has called linguistic profiling so we find

called linguistic profiling so we find

called linguistic profiling so we find that there’s inequity in our educational

that there’s inequity in our educational

that there’s inequity in our educational system based on these types of beliefs

system based on these types of beliefs

system based on these types of beliefs children that don’t speak what is seen

children that don’t speak what is seen

children that don’t speak what is seen is the standard variety of English have

is the standard variety of English have

is the standard variety of English have in some cases been put in special

in some cases been put in special

in some cases been put in special education programs simply because they

education programs simply because they

education programs simply because they don’t speak though they speak a

don’t speak though they speak a

don’t speak though they speak a different dialect other than what’s

different dialect other than what’s

different dialect other than what’s perceived to be the standard in our

perceived to be the standard in our

perceived to be the standard in our legal system we find that there have

legal system we find that there have

legal system we find that there have been wrongful convictions based on these

been wrongful convictions based on these

been wrongful convictions based on these ideas that what somebody says it’s

ideas that what somebody says it’s

ideas that what somebody says it’s confusing because what it’s they say is

confusing because what it’s they say is

confusing because what it’s they say is actually non-standard John Rickford and

actually non-standard John Rickford and

actually non-standard John Rickford and Cherise King recently released an

Cherise King recently released an

Cherise King recently released an excellent article that won awards in

excellent article that won awards in

excellent article that won awards in language analyzing the language use of

language analyzing the language use of

language analyzing the language use of the star witness in the Trayvon Martin

the star witness in the Trayvon Martin

the star witness in the Trayvon Martin Martin murder trial Rachael genteel and

Martin murder trial Rachael genteel and

Martin murder trial Rachael genteel and a lot of people rejected her testimony

a lot of people rejected her testimony

a lot of people rejected her testimony because they hated the way that she

because they hated the way that she

because they hated the way that she talked and these kind of instances sort

talked and these kind of instances sort

talked and these kind of instances sort of reveal that the way that we think

of reveal that the way that we think

of reveal that the way that we think about language use is really it’s deeply

about language use is really it’s deeply

about language use is really it’s deeply a social issue it results in inequity in

a social issue it results in inequity in

a social issue it results in inequity in our workplaces in an everyday life when

our workplaces in an everyday life when

our workplaces in an everyday life when John bought coined the term linguistic

John bought coined the term linguistic

John bought coined the term linguistic profiling he did it based on an

profiling he did it based on an

profiling he did it based on an extensive study where he would call and

extensive study where he would call and

extensive study where he would call and try and get a house or an apartment and

try and get a house or an apartment and

try and get a house or an apartment and basically he would get an apartment or

basically he would get an apartment or

basically he would get an apartment or not depending on the way that he spoke

not depending on the way that he spoke

not depending on the way that he spoke if he spoke in a way that was much more

if he spoke in a way that was much more

if he spoke in a way that was much more like African American English or Mexican

like African American English or Mexican

like African American English or Mexican English sometimes they would screen the

English sometimes they would screen the

English sometimes they would screen the calls and he wouldn’t even get a call

calls and he wouldn’t even get a call

calls and he wouldn’t even get a call back or he wouldn’t get an apartment but

back or he wouldn’t get an apartment but

back or he wouldn’t get an apartment but if he spoke in a way that was closer to

if he spoke in a way that was closer to

if he spoke in a way that was closer to standard American English he tended to

standard American English he tended to

standard American English he tended to get a apartment with greater greater

get a apartment with greater greater

get a apartment with greater greater frequency so it looks like we actually

frequency so it looks like we actually

frequency so it looks like we actually act in the world in a way that’s based

act in the world in a way that’s based

act in the world in a way that’s based on these that trigger some interesting

on these that trigger some interesting

on these that trigger some interesting eight symmetries so what it means then

eight symmetries so what it means then

eight symmetries so what it means then is that we we basically are targeting

is that we we basically are targeting

is that we we basically are targeting asymmetrically specific varieties of

asymmetrically specific varieties of

asymmetrically specific varieties of language and we engage in practices of

language and we engage in practices of

language and we engage in practices of exclusion stigmatization and

exclusion stigmatization and

exclusion stigmatization and marginalized marginalization what a lot

marginalized marginalization what a lot

marginalized marginalization what a lot of linguists have argued and shown

of linguists have argued and shown

of linguists have argued and shown through systematic research is that

through systematic research is that

through systematic research is that is the fact of our world but we have

is the fact of our world but we have

is the fact of our world but we have absolutely no valid basis for doing so

absolutely no valid basis for doing so

absolutely no valid basis for doing so so the question is why do we actually do

so the question is why do we actually do

so the question is why do we actually do this so why is it that we’d not just

this so why is it that we’d not just

this so why is it that we’d not just allow but also seem to value so kind of

allow but also seem to value so kind of

allow but also seem to value so kind of going back to that original slide we

going back to that original slide we

going back to that original slide we seem to value language based

seem to value language based

seem to value language based discrimination the thing is is that

discrimination the thing is is that

discrimination the thing is is that language use as I mentioned early is

language use as I mentioned early is

language use as I mentioned early is invariably tied to the people that speak

invariably tied to the people that speak

invariably tied to the people that speak and that means our beliefs about

and that means our beliefs about

and that means our beliefs about language use are going to be deeply

language use are going to be deeply

language use are going to be deeply intertwined with the beliefs that we

intertwined with the beliefs that we

intertwined with the beliefs that we have about the people who use them now

have about the people who use them now

have about the people who use them now what a lot of linguistics research has

what a lot of linguistics research has

what a lot of linguistics research has shown what a lot of linguists emphasize

shown what a lot of linguists emphasize

shown what a lot of linguists emphasize is that another outcome of this is that

is that another outcome of this is that

is that another outcome of this is that we’re just missing out on what human

we’re just missing out on what human

we’re just missing out on what human language is can you imagine any

language is can you imagine any

language is can you imagine any scientist who studied a particular

scientist who studied a particular

scientist who studied a particular species and had some arbitrary reason to

species and had some arbitrary reason to

species and had some arbitrary reason to exclude a large portion of the species

exclude a large portion of the species

exclude a large portion of the species that he was investigating he or she was

that he was investigating he or she was

that he was investigating he or she was investigating and came up with this

investigating and came up with this

investigating and came up with this result we ought to all question what was

result we ought to all question what was

result we ought to all question what was actually happening so when we ignore

actually happening so when we ignore

actually happening so when we ignore half of what people say and say that

half of what people say and say that

half of what people say and say that it’s wrong we’re limiting our

it’s wrong we’re limiting our

it’s wrong we’re limiting our understanding about what human language

understanding about what human language

understanding about what human language actually is so all of these things which

actually is so all of these things which

actually is so all of these things which I’ve heard just sin living in the world

I’ve heard just sin living in the world

I’ve heard just sin living in the world around me that we all might have

around me that we all might have

around me that we all might have negative reactions to because we’ve got

negative reactions to because we’ve got

negative reactions to because we’ve got double negation we’ve got double

double negation we’ve got double

double negation we’ve got double comparatives we’ve got double modal’s

comparatives we’ve got double modal’s

comparatives we’ve got double modal’s mida ustah we’ve got things like

mida ustah we’ve got things like

mida ustah we’ve got things like positive anymore which is a very

positive anymore which is a very

positive anymore which is a very Midwestern thing in some other areas as

Midwestern thing in some other areas as

Midwestern thing in some other areas as well all of this actually are instances

well all of this actually are instances

well all of this actually are instances of the richness of expression of human

of the richness of expression of human

of the richness of expression of human language and every one of these can tell

language and every one of these can tell

language and every one of these can tell us something fascinating about it what

us something fascinating about it what

us something fascinating about it what it means to actually speak language so

it means to actually speak language so

it means to actually speak language so we’re missing out about the richness and

we’re missing out about the richness and

we’re missing out about the richness and diversity of human experience when we

diversity of human experience when we

diversity of human experience when we ignore a lot of what language use is

ignore a lot of what language use is

ignore a lot of what language use is actually about and what I’d like to at

actually about and what I’d like to at

actually about and what I’d like to at least propose is that what this sin does

least propose is that what this sin does

least propose is that what this sin does because of the relationship between the

because of the relationship between the

because of the relationship between the way that we think about language and how

way that we think about language and how

way that we think about language and how that causes us to think about other

that causes us to think about other

that causes us to think about other people is that we’re actually

people is that we’re actually

people is that we’re actually counteracting other attempts to value

counteracting other attempts to value

counteracting other attempts to value and appreciate diversity so linguists

and appreciate diversity so linguists

and appreciate diversity so linguists have emphasized over the decades that we

have emphasized over the decades that we

have emphasized over the decades that we find out about what language is by

find out about what language is by

find out about what language is by focusing on what people say not what we

focusing on what people say not what we

focusing on what people say not what we want people to

want people to

want people to say or what we think people should say

say or what we think people should say

say or what we think people should say and linguistic diversity is just a

and linguistic diversity is just a

and linguistic diversity is just a normal and beautiful fact of human life

normal and beautiful fact of human life

normal and beautiful fact of human life and it’s not a problem to be eradicated

and it’s not a problem to be eradicated

and it’s not a problem to be eradicated so we can actually learn to appreciate

so we can actually learn to appreciate

so we can actually learn to appreciate in value linguistic diversity and

in value linguistic diversity and

in value linguistic diversity and hopefully that will help us to

hopefully that will help us to

hopefully that will help us to appreciate in value of other people too

appreciate in value of other people too

appreciate in value of other people too thank you

thank you

thank you [Applause]

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