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Breaking Genres | Rachel Ohnsman | TEDxUMiami


so a few months ago I was getting to

so a few months ago I was getting to know a brand new boy student she’s a

know a brand new boy student she’s a

know a brand new boy student she’s a nine year old girl and I was asking her

nine year old girl and I was asking her

nine year old girl and I was asking her the typical questions that I asked new

the typical questions that I asked new

the typical questions that I asked new students like what’s your favorite color

students like what’s your favorite color

students like what’s your favorite color what’s your favorite animal what kind of

what’s your favorite animal what kind of

what’s your favorite animal what kind of music do you like

music do you like

music do you like she told me that her favorite color is

she told me that her favorite color is

she told me that her favorite color is purple and her favorite animal is dogs

purple and her favorite animal is dogs

purple and her favorite animal is dogs which I approved of so it was fine we

which I approved of so it was fine we

which I approved of so it was fine we knew that we’d have a decent

knew that we’d have a decent

knew that we’d have a decent teacher-student relationship and then

teacher-student relationship and then

teacher-student relationship and then she surprised me by saying that not

she surprised me by saying that not

she surprised me by saying that not talking about her favorite artist or her

talking about her favorite artist or her

talking about her favorite artist or her favorite style of music but by telling

favorite style of music but by telling

favorite style of music but by telling me that she’s really interested in music

me that she’s really interested in music

me that she’s really interested in music history well she told me that after

history well she told me that after

history well she told me that after probing a little bit further that she

probing a little bit further that she

probing a little bit further that she has heard of both Beethoven and Michael

has heard of both Beethoven and Michael

has heard of both Beethoven and Michael Jackson

Jackson

Jackson so music history to her is moonlight

so music history to her is moonlight

so music history to her is moonlight sonata and thriller and I thought that

sonata and thriller and I thought that

sonata and thriller and I thought that that was kind of charming but I I wasn’t

that was kind of charming but I I wasn’t

that was kind of charming but I I wasn’t exactly sure why these particular

exactly sure why these particular

exactly sure why these particular artists were the two that liked that she

artists were the two that liked that she

artists were the two that liked that she thought of immediately so after I gave

thought of immediately so after I gave

thought of immediately so after I gave her kind of a brief overview of his of

her kind of a brief overview of his of

her kind of a brief overview of his of the history of western music I was

the history of western music I was

the history of western music I was telling her about the medieval era and

telling her about the medieval era and

telling her about the medieval era and the Baroque and everything I started to

the Baroque and everything I started to

the Baroque and everything I started to think about how we got to this point and

think about how we got to this point and

think about how we got to this point and why these are the two that she thought

why these are the two that she thought

why these are the two that she thought of now we typically define music by

of now we typically define music by

of now we typically define music by genre we are human and we like to

genre we are human and we like to

genre we are human and we like to categorize so there’s classical there’s

categorize so there’s classical there’s

categorize so there’s classical there’s jazz there’s contemporary like pop and

jazz there’s contemporary like pop and

jazz there’s contemporary like pop and rock and then there’s world music which

rock and then there’s world music which

rock and then there’s world music which is probably the most vague and

is probably the most vague and

is probably the most vague and problematic genre of them all now while

problematic genre of them all now while

problematic genre of them all now while music genres tend to give us some

music genres tend to give us some

music genres tend to give us some insight into the kind of sounds that

insight into the kind of sounds that

insight into the kind of sounds that we’re going to hear these

we’re going to hear these

we’re going to hear these categorizations often create divisions

categorizations often create divisions

categorizations often create divisions I’m a musician so as my friends hear

I’m a musician so as my friends hear

I’m a musician so as my friends hear Aundre we both study jazz here at the

Aundre we both study jazz here at the

Aundre we both study jazz here at the Frost School of Music but our influences

Frost School of Music but our influences

Frost School of Music but our influences go a lot deeper than that I grew up

go a lot deeper than that I grew up

go a lot deeper than that I grew up singing sara bareilles and playing

singing sara bareilles and playing

singing sara bareilles and playing Chopin Nocturne

Chopin Nocturne

Chopin Nocturne and on trigger off with Bill Evans and

and on trigger off with Bill Evans and

and on trigger off with Bill Evans and Billy Joel I both have many different

Billy Joel I both have many different

Billy Joel I both have many different influences but well now we we both play

influences but well now we we both play

influences but well now we we both play in a lot of different styles I sing with

in a lot of different styles I sing with

in a lot of different styles I sing with a folk trio I play piano for musicals

a folk trio I play piano for musicals

a folk trio I play piano for musicals and I also play my own music with Andre

and I also play my own music with Andre

and I also play my own music with Andre sometimes which is kind of searching for

sometimes which is kind of searching for

sometimes which is kind of searching for its own genre now we’re not necessarily

its own genre now we’re not necessarily

its own genre now we’re not necessarily unique in this way we both have many

unique in this way we both have many

unique in this way we both have many different influences but many many

different influences but many many

different influences but many many musicians grow up listening to a variety

musicians grow up listening to a variety

musicians grow up listening to a variety of styles and play more than one now

of styles and play more than one now

of styles and play more than one now very typically when I play a jazz

very typically when I play a jazz

very typically when I play a jazz standards like bewitched or I could

standards like bewitched or I could

standards like bewitched or I could write a book for an older audience

write a book for an older audience

write a book for an older audience they tends to say well this they tend to

they tends to say well this they tend to

they tends to say well this they tend to get really excited about this right and

get really excited about this right and

get really excited about this right and they’re biased towards the music that

they’re biased towards the music that

they’re biased towards the music that they’re playing I’ll be which and I

they’re playing I’ll be which and I

they’re playing I’ll be which and I could write a book are both jazz

could write a book are both jazz

could write a book are both jazz standards from the Great American

standards from the Great American

standards from the Great American Songbook and older generation is biased

Songbook and older generation is biased

Songbook and older generation is biased towards this music and we’re biased too

towards this music and we’re biased too

towards this music and we’re biased too towards the music of our own day musical

towards the music of our own day musical

towards the music of our own day musical nostalgia to quote mark Joseph Stern

nostalgia to quote mark Joseph Stern

nostalgia to quote mark Joseph Stern isn’t just a cultural phenomenon it’s an

isn’t just a cultural phenomenon it’s an

isn’t just a cultural phenomenon it’s an erotic command now typically the music

erotic command now typically the music

erotic command now typically the music that we listen to during our formative

that we listen to during our formative

that we listen to during our formative years is deeply rooted in the culture

years is deeply rooted in the culture

years is deeply rooted in the culture that surrounds us reflecting our

that surrounds us reflecting our

that surrounds us reflecting our personal identities our social lives and

personal identities our social lives and

personal identities our social lives and our neighborhoods and the outside

our neighborhoods and the outside

our neighborhoods and the outside world’s influence but as it’s an erotic

world’s influence but as it’s an erotic

world’s influence but as it’s an erotic command essentially when we listen to

command essentially when we listen to

command essentially when we listen to music that we like our brains release

music that we like our brains release

music that we like our brains release the neurotransmitters dopamine and

the neurotransmitters dopamine and

the neurotransmitters dopamine and serotonin that make us feel great it’s

serotonin that make us feel great it’s

serotonin that make us feel great it’s the same stuff that makes us feel good

the same stuff that makes us feel good

the same stuff that makes us feel good when we have sex or when we eat a really

when we have sex or when we eat a really

when we have sex or when we eat a really good piece of cake and when we’re

good piece of cake and when we’re

good piece of cake and when we’re teenagers our brains are on hyper speed

teenagers our brains are on hyper speed

teenagers our brains are on hyper speed making rapid-fire neural connections

making rapid-fire neural connections

making rapid-fire neural connections while growth hormones run rampant in our

while growth hormones run rampant in our

while growth hormones run rampant in our bodies all during the most formative

bodies all during the most formative

bodies all during the most formative years of our personal identities and

years of our personal identities and

years of our personal identities and social lives so this all makes the

social lives so this all makes the

social lives so this all makes the connection between music emotion and

connection between music emotion and

connection between music emotion and memory really amplified now when as we

memory really amplified now when as we

memory really amplified now when as we grow older to quote dr. adrian north

grow older to quote dr. adrian north

grow older to quote dr. adrian north we do listen to new music but with a

we do listen to new music but with a

we do listen to new music but with a bias towards that which sounds similar

bias towards that which sounds similar

bias towards that which sounds similar to that which we listen to ages 16 to 24

to that which we listen to ages 16 to 24

to that which we listen to ages 16 to 24 and second the actual pieces that we

and second the actual pieces that we

and second the actual pieces that we listen to tend to become more complex as

listen to tend to become more complex as

listen to tend to become more complex as we grow older so imagine a girl from

we grow older so imagine a girl from

we grow older so imagine a girl from Pennsylvania who grew up on dad rock

Pennsylvania who grew up on dad rock

Pennsylvania who grew up on dad rock before transitioning to pop punk around

before transitioning to pop punk around

before transitioning to pop punk around junior high now she may grow older to

junior high now she may grow older to

junior high now she may grow older to listen to a slightly more sophisticated

listen to a slightly more sophisticated

listen to a slightly more sophisticated blend of music but no matter how many

blend of music but no matter how many

blend of music but no matter how many new artists she introduces to her

new artists she introduces to her

new artists she introduces to her library none will sound as sweet as the

library none will sound as sweet as the

library none will sound as sweet as the Fall Out Boy that she listened to when

Fall Out Boy that she listened to when

Fall Out Boy that she listened to when she was 14 yeah pop punk is forever the

she was 14 yeah pop punk is forever the

she was 14 yeah pop punk is forever the definition of music is pretty vague we

definition of music is pretty vague we

definition of music is pretty vague we can infer that music is basically sounds

can infer that music is basically sounds

can infer that music is basically sounds that has harmonic rhythmic and melodic

that has harmonic rhythmic and melodic

that has harmonic rhythmic and melodic continuity but we know that this isn’t

continuity but we know that this isn’t

continuity but we know that this isn’t necessarily always true who here has

necessarily always true who here has

necessarily always true who here has heard of John Cage’s 433 anyone yeah

heard of John Cage’s 433 anyone yeah

heard of John Cage’s 433 anyone yeah we’ve got a couple of tentative hands so

we’ve got a couple of tentative hands so

we’ve got a couple of tentative hands so I gave this presentation in my choir the

I gave this presentation in my choir the

I gave this presentation in my choir the other day and everyone was like really

other day and everyone was like really

other day and everyone was like really excited about that so I’m glad to share

excited about that so I’m glad to share

excited about that so I’m glad to share this with you guys so for those of you

this with you guys so for those of you

this with you guys so for those of you wondering Andre is actually playing it

wondering Andre is actually playing it

wondering Andre is actually playing it right now yeah it’s really beautiful

right now yeah it’s really beautiful

right now yeah it’s really beautiful right

right

right so 433 is literally four minutes and 33

so 433 is literally four minutes and 33

so 433 is literally four minutes and 33 seconds of the pianists not playing a

seconds of the pianists not playing a

seconds of the pianists not playing a single note it’s just four minutes and

single note it’s just four minutes and

single note it’s just four minutes and 33 seconds of listening to the room

33 seconds of listening to the room

33 seconds of listening to the room around us well this is a bit more

around us well this is a bit more

around us well this is a bit more extreme of an example yes and it’s

extreme of an example yes and it’s

extreme of an example yes and it’s making a statement John Cage was famous

making a statement John Cage was famous

making a statement John Cage was famous for that but the idea is that we can

for that but the idea is that we can

for that but the idea is that we can find music in anything we can find music

find music in anything we can find music

find music in anything we can find music in birds chirping in a forest or a

in birds chirping in a forest or a

in birds chirping in a forest or a street performance of percussive trash

street performance of percussive trash

street performance of percussive trash cans Oh John Cage himself said that

cans Oh John Cage himself said that

cans Oh John Cage himself said that everything we do is music this is all

everything we do is music this is all

everything we do is music this is all very nice but it doesn’t really give us

very nice but it doesn’t really give us

very nice but it doesn’t really give us an exact idea of what of what music

an exact idea of what of what music

an exact idea of what of what music actually can be defined as so if we take

actually can be defined as so if we take

actually can be defined as so if we take a closer look at definitions of three

a closer look at definitions of three

a closer look at definitions of three major Western music genres we see that

major Western music genres we see that

major Western music genres we see that the definitions have an idea of the

the definitions have an idea of the

the definitions have an idea of the harmonic language maybe or harmonic

harmonic language maybe or harmonic

harmonic language maybe or harmonic language or instruments that are typical

language or instruments that are typical

language or instruments that are typical in certain types of music but these

in certain types of music but these

in certain types of music but these ideas don’t necessarily give us

ideas don’t necessarily give us

ideas don’t necessarily give us the best idea of how to define the

the best idea of how to define the

the best idea of how to define the genres the one thing that’s consistent

genres the one thing that’s consistent

genres the one thing that’s consistent in all three of the music genres is the

in all three of the music genres is the

in all three of the music genres is the mention of a time or location of origin

mention of a time or location of origin

mention of a time or location of origin so music like language is acquired

so music like language is acquired

so music like language is acquired through cultural transmission so just as

through cultural transmission so just as

through cultural transmission so just as we incorporate the slang that we hear

we incorporate the slang that we hear

we incorporate the slang that we hear all around us into our daily vocabulary

all around us into our daily vocabulary

all around us into our daily vocabulary we take musical cues from our

we take musical cues from our

we take musical cues from our environment as well I listen to pop punk

environment as well I listen to pop punk

environment as well I listen to pop punk because my middle school friends listen

because my middle school friends listen

because my middle school friends listen to pop punk and I study jazz now because

to pop punk and I study jazz now because

to pop punk and I study jazz now because I got to college and started to jam with

I got to college and started to jam with

I got to college and started to jam with my friends who play jazz perhaps more

my friends who play jazz perhaps more

my friends who play jazz perhaps more important than the actual sound of the

important than the actual sound of the

important than the actual sound of the music is the tradition and culture

music is the tradition and culture

music is the tradition and culture involved the thing about not the sound

involved the thing about not the sound

involved the thing about not the sound but the ritual involved so often it’s

but the ritual involved so often it’s

but the ritual involved so often it’s the audience participation that helps to

the audience participation that helps to

the audience participation that helps to define a genre sometimes it’s a bit more

define a genre sometimes it’s a bit more

define a genre sometimes it’s a bit more obvious as in the different ways that we

obvious as in the different ways that we

obvious as in the different ways that we dress or prepare for a show at an opera

dress or prepare for a show at an opera

dress or prepare for a show at an opera house or a jazz club or an underground

house or a jazz club or an underground

house or a jazz club or an underground basement show and sometimes it’s a bit

basement show and sometimes it’s a bit

basement show and sometimes it’s a bit more subtle as in the different Latin

more subtle as in the different Latin

more subtle as in the different Latin American clubs and dances involved in

American clubs and dances involved in

American clubs and dances involved in Samba bachata and salsa now I was asking

Samba bachata and salsa now I was asking

Samba bachata and salsa now I was asking my friend Sri Hari yeah to get an idea

my friend Sri Hari yeah to get an idea

my friend Sri Hari yeah to get an idea of what the what the cultural sounds of

of what the what the cultural sounds of

of what the what the cultural sounds of his native country India are and because

his native country India are and because

his native country India are and because every culture of course has their own

every culture of course has their own

every culture of course has their own unique traditions and he told me that

unique traditions and he told me that

unique traditions and he told me that genre is our only proof of cultural

genre is our only proof of cultural

genre is our only proof of cultural difference Oh

difference Oh

difference Oh in India it’s an incredibly diverse

in India it’s an incredibly diverse

in India it’s an incredibly diverse country and all the different regions

country and all the different regions

country and all the different regions have their unique sounds in the north

have their unique sounds in the north

have their unique sounds in the north for example there’s Sufi there is Indian

for example there’s Sufi there is Indian

for example there’s Sufi there is Indian trance Indian ballads and Punjabi music

trance Indian ballads and Punjabi music

trance Indian ballads and Punjabi music as well as the Western music that has

as well as the Western music that has

as well as the Western music that has infiltrated and then I asked another

infiltrated and then I asked another

infiltrated and then I asked another friend of mine from Tokyo who for this a

friend of mine from Tokyo who for this a

friend of mine from Tokyo who for this a similar in some way it’s there and he

similar in some way it’s there and he

similar in some way it’s there and he told me that the Japanese musical

told me that the Japanese musical

told me that the Japanese musical tradition is based on the more quiet and

tradition is based on the more quiet and

tradition is based on the more quiet and observant nature of the Japanese people

observant nature of the Japanese people

observant nature of the Japanese people often because of the isolation of their

often because of the isolation of their

often because of the isolation of their islands the Japanese

islands the Japanese

islands the Japanese the Japanese tends to be really

the Japanese tends to be really

the Japanese tends to be really fantastic copiers and they’re really

fantastic copiers and they’re really

fantastic copiers and they’re really great at incorporating the sounds from

great at incorporating the sounds from

great at incorporating the sounds from other places and fusing them with their

other places and fusing them with their

other places and fusing them with their own ow no this can be found in their

own ow no this can be found in their

own ow no this can be found in their electronic hip hop and jazz fusion music

electronic hip hop and jazz fusion music

electronic hip hop and jazz fusion music I haven’t yet gotten to travel to India

I haven’t yet gotten to travel to India

I haven’t yet gotten to travel to India or Japan but I have gotten to travel a

or Japan but I have gotten to travel a

or Japan but I have gotten to travel a bit on my own and I’ve met some really

bit on my own and I’ve met some really

bit on my own and I’ve met some really interesting people through those travels

interesting people through those travels

interesting people through those travels now in January I was talking to a man

now in January I was talking to a man

now in January I was talking to a man from Germany on a plane we happened to

from Germany on a plane we happened to

from Germany on a plane we happened to sit next to each other and we were

sit next to each other and we were

sit next to each other and we were talking about different languages and

talking about different languages and

talking about different languages and cultures and he said something that I

cultures and he said something that I

cultures and he said something that I found really interesting he said that a

found really interesting he said that a

found really interesting he said that a language reflects the people who speak

language reflects the people who speak

language reflects the people who speak it ow his native language of German is a

it ow his native language of German is a

it ow his native language of German is a very direct language it’s not

very direct language it’s not

very direct language it’s not necessarily considered it’s the most

necessarily considered it’s the most

necessarily considered it’s the most beautiful language by everyone but it is

beautiful language by everyone but it is

beautiful language by everyone but it is very efficient like it’s people of this

very efficient like it’s people of this

very efficient like it’s people of this the admiration for efficiency can be

the admiration for efficiency can be

the admiration for efficiency can be found in can be found in their

found in can be found in their

found in can be found in their architecture as well as their cars right

architecture as well as their cars right

architecture as well as their cars right now by contrast he told me that he lived

now by contrast he told me that he lived

now by contrast he told me that he lived in Thailand for several years for about

in Thailand for several years for about

in Thailand for several years for about 10 years now Thai can be a bit of a

10 years now Thai can be a bit of a

10 years now Thai can be a bit of a challenge to learn especially for

challenge to learn especially for

challenge to learn especially for Westerners and this isn’t just because

Westerners and this isn’t just because

Westerners and this isn’t just because their alphabet is completely different

their alphabet is completely different

their alphabet is completely different and we can’t sound out the words like we

and we can’t sound out the words like we

and we can’t sound out the words like we would in most Latin or Germanic based

would in most Latin or Germanic based

would in most Latin or Germanic based languages this is actually because

languages this is actually because

languages this is actually because according to him Thai includes extra

according to him Thai includes extra

according to him Thai includes extra letters in Words just because they look

letters in Words just because they look

letters in Words just because they look aesthetically pleasing Thai culture is

aesthetically pleasing Thai culture is

aesthetically pleasing Thai culture is similarly treasures ornate beauty which

similarly treasures ornate beauty which

similarly treasures ornate beauty which we can see in their architecture as well

we can see in their architecture as well

we can see in their architecture as well now let’s take this example of of a

now let’s take this example of of a

now let’s take this example of of a couple different languages now if we

couple different languages now if we

couple different languages now if we took a Spanish and Italian speaker and

took a Spanish and Italian speaker and

took a Spanish and Italian speaker and we put them in a room together and told

we put them in a room together and told

we put them in a room together and told them to go crazy you become best friends

them to go crazy you become best friends

them to go crazy you become best friends they might have a bit of a challenge

they might have a bit of a challenge

they might have a bit of a challenge talking to each other right so they

talking to each other right so they

talking to each other right so they speak totally different languages but

speak totally different languages but

speak totally different languages but Spanish and Italian are both Romance

Spanish and Italian are both Romance

Spanish and Italian are both Romance languages they’re very similar

languages they’re very similar

languages they’re very similar grammatically and they have many cognate

grammatically and they have many cognate

grammatically and they have many cognate sooo many similar

sooo many similar

sooo many similar in vocabulary so while they wouldn’t

in vocabulary so while they wouldn’t

in vocabulary so while they wouldn’t exactly be able to to speak the other’s

exactly be able to to speak the other’s

exactly be able to to speak the other’s language they’d probably be able to get

language they’d probably be able to get

language they’d probably be able to get a gist of what the other is saying the

a gist of what the other is saying the

a gist of what the other is saying the same could be said for music so let’s

same could be said for music so let’s

same could be said for music so let’s say the same scenario but in this case

say the same scenario but in this case

say the same scenario but in this case it’s two guitarists one who plays

it’s two guitarists one who plays

it’s two guitarists one who plays classical guitar and one who plays jazz

classical guitar and one who plays jazz

classical guitar and one who plays jazz so a classical guitarist has a very

so a classical guitarist has a very

so a classical guitarist has a very specific technique often the guitar is

specific technique often the guitar is

specific technique often the guitar is held upright with the neck up here and

held upright with the neck up here and

held upright with the neck up here and the strings are made of nylon rather

the strings are made of nylon rather

the strings are made of nylon rather than metal like we would find in

than metal like we would find in

than metal like we would find in acoustic or electric guitars and jazz

acoustic or electric guitars and jazz

acoustic or electric guitars and jazz guitarists tend to hold them down here

guitarists tend to hold them down here

guitarists tend to hold them down here slight differences but more or less

slight differences but more or less

slight differences but more or less they’re playing the same notes on just

they’re playing the same notes on just

they’re playing the same notes on just about the same instrument and while

about the same instrument and while

about the same instrument and while they’re playing is a completely

they’re playing is a completely

they’re playing is a completely different style they’d probably be able

different style they’d probably be able

different style they’d probably be able to appreciate the others playing even if

to appreciate the others playing even if

to appreciate the others playing even if they couldn’t reproduce it themselves

they couldn’t reproduce it themselves

they couldn’t reproduce it themselves now all musicians don’t necessarily play

now all musicians don’t necessarily play

now all musicians don’t necessarily play the same way just as all humans don’t

the same way just as all humans don’t

the same way just as all humans don’t necessarily speak the same way but often

necessarily speak the same way but often

necessarily speak the same way but often the similarities outweigh the

the similarities outweigh the

the similarities outweigh the differences I’ll imagine if every human

differences I’ll imagine if every human

differences I’ll imagine if every human on earth spoke the same language in

on earth spoke the same language in

on earth spoke the same language in India alone there are 122 major

India alone there are 122 major

India alone there are 122 major languages spoken and there are about

languages spoken and there are about

languages spoken and there are about sixteen hundred others spoken as well

sixteen hundred others spoken as well

sixteen hundred others spoken as well and worldwide there are over 7,000

and worldwide there are over 7,000

and worldwide there are over 7,000 languages spoken now I’m not trying to

languages spoken now I’m not trying to

languages spoken now I’m not trying to claim that every music genre or every

claim that every music genre or every

claim that every music genre or every language is the same that’s crazy but

language is the same that’s crazy but

language is the same that’s crazy but just as a language is made up of

just as a language is made up of

just as a language is made up of conversations which are made of

conversations which are made of

conversations which are made of sentences made of words made of letters

sentences made of words made of letters

sentences made of words made of letters many agree that music is a language in

many agree that music is a language in

many agree that music is a language in its own right made up of songs which are

its own right made up of songs which are

its own right made up of songs which are made of phrases made of notes often two

made of phrases made of notes often two

made of phrases made of notes often two languages are grammatically similar or

languages are grammatically similar or

languages are grammatically similar or share an alphabet and the similarities

share an alphabet and the similarities

share an alphabet and the similarities can be found in music genres as well and

can be found in music genres as well and

can be found in music genres as well and while every language or music genre is

while every language or music genre is

while every language or music genre is going to have its unique expressions

going to have its unique expressions

going to have its unique expressions often the similarities outweigh the

often the similarities outweigh the

often the similarities outweigh the differences how earlier I mentioned

differences how earlier I mentioned

differences how earlier I mentioned bewitched and I could write a book these

bewitched and I could write a book these

bewitched and I could write a book these are two really commonly performed jazz

are two really commonly performed jazz

are two really commonly performed jazz tunes but they weren’t actually written

tunes but they weren’t actually written

tunes but they weren’t actually written for jazz musicians at all they’re from

for jazz musicians at all they’re from

for jazz musicians at all they’re from the same Rodgers and Hart musical that I

the same Rodgers and Hart musical that I

the same Rodgers and Hart musical that I hadn’t heard of before called pal Joey

hadn’t heard of before called pal Joey

hadn’t heard of before called pal Joey and the crossover like this can be found

and the crossover like this can be found

and the crossover like this can be found they’re places as well like Queen’s

they’re places as well like Queen’s

they’re places as well like Queen’s Bohemian Rhapsody which which is

Bohemian Rhapsody which which is

Bohemian Rhapsody which which is basically a rock opera work unless is

basically a rock opera work unless is

basically a rock opera work unless is performed by Kanye West in which case

performed by Kanye West in which case

performed by Kanye West in which case this is something completely different

this is something completely different

this is something completely different Jeremy denk a classical pianist has

Jeremy denk a classical pianist has

Jeremy denk a classical pianist has called box Goldberg Variations the

called box Goldberg Variations the

called box Goldberg Variations the biggest jazz riff of all time and in the

biggest jazz riff of all time and in the

biggest jazz riff of all time and in the 1400s guillaume de fight turned his

1400s guillaume de fight turned his

1400s guillaume de fight turned his secular basically pop song into a mass

secular basically pop song into a mass

secular basically pop song into a mass of the same name Messala fossae paulo

of the same name Messala fossae paulo

of the same name Messala fossae paulo and then there is Gershwin grace man is

and then there is Gershwin grace man is

and then there is Gershwin grace man is probably one of the best examples of the

probably one of the best examples of the

probably one of the best examples of the crossover between genres let’s take his

crossover between genres let’s take his

crossover between genres let’s take his folk opera Porgy and Bess this produced

folk opera Porgy and Bess this produced

folk opera Porgy and Bess this produced some really commonly performed songs

some really commonly performed songs

some really commonly performed songs like summertime which has been performed

like summertime which has been performed

like summertime which has been performed by musicians of just about every genre

by musicians of just about every genre

by musicians of just about every genre he proved he composed I’ve got rhythm

he proved he composed I’ve got rhythm

he proved he composed I’ve got rhythm which is one of the most influential in

which is one of the most influential in

which is one of the most influential in jazz history but just like bewitched and

jazz history but just like bewitched and

jazz history but just like bewitched and I could write a book wasn’t actually

I could write a book wasn’t actually

I could write a book wasn’t actually written for jazz musicians it’s from a

written for jazz musicians it’s from a

written for jazz musicians it’s from a musical called girl-crazy which also

musical called girl-crazy which also

musical called girl-crazy which also featured the tunes embraceable you and

featured the tunes embraceable you and

featured the tunes embraceable you and but not for me he’s also composed

but not for me he’s also composed

but not for me he’s also composed classical orchestral works like his

classical orchestral works like his

classical orchestral works like his Concerto in F as well as a Cuban

Concerto in F as well as a Cuban

Concerto in F as well as a Cuban overture and then there’s his

overture and then there’s his

overture and then there’s his little-known piece Rhapsody in Blue

little-known piece Rhapsody in Blue

little-known piece Rhapsody in Blue which is basically a symphonic jazz work

which is basically a symphonic jazz work

which is basically a symphonic jazz work now Gershwin had his feet in so many

now Gershwin had his feet in so many

now Gershwin had his feet in so many different genres though we might think

different genres though we might think

different genres though we might think he was like part octopus if we didn’t

he was like part octopus if we didn’t

he was like part octopus if we didn’t have photographic evidence of his two

have photographic evidence of his two

have photographic evidence of his two legs but his work is while it is

legs but his work is while it is

legs but his work is while it is indefinable

indefinable

indefinable its beloved and that’s because it all

its beloved and that’s because it all

its beloved and that’s because it all sounds like Gershwin let’s now if you do

sounds like Gershwin let’s now if you do

sounds like Gershwin let’s now if you do a quick Google search of genre names

a quick Google search of genre names

a quick Google search of genre names like weird genre names you’ll find works

like weird genre names you’ll find works

like weird genre names you’ll find works from from Spotify and others neo-soul

from from Spotify and others neo-soul

from from Spotify and others neo-soul electro-swing medieval rock free folk

electro-swing medieval rock free folk

electro-swing medieval rock free folk but but and that’s awesome so there’s

but but and that’s awesome so there’s

but but and that’s awesome so there’s something for everyone and

something for everyone and

something for everyone and as there’s so many different music

as there’s so many different music

as there’s so many different music genres no I’m not trying to say that

genres no I’m not trying to say that

genres no I’m not trying to say that every music genre is the same again just

every music genre is the same again just

every music genre is the same again just like every human doesn’t speak the same

like every human doesn’t speak the same

like every human doesn’t speak the same way but just as humans can learn in more

way but just as humans can learn in more

way but just as humans can learn in more than one language musicians and music

than one language musicians and music

than one language musicians and music lovers can expand their listening palate

lovers can expand their listening palate

lovers can expand their listening palate if we get too caught up in the labels

if we get too caught up in the labels

if we get too caught up in the labels then we tend to miss out on some really

then we tend to miss out on some really

then we tend to miss out on some really fantastic music you know we tend to

fantastic music you know we tend to

fantastic music you know we tend to define ourselves as classical jazz or

define ourselves as classical jazz or

define ourselves as classical jazz or contemporary in the music world but like

contemporary in the music world but like

contemporary in the music world but like Gershwin we should be using these

Gershwin we should be using these

Gershwin we should be using these traditions to inspire and to affect what

traditions to inspire and to affect what

traditions to inspire and to affect what we are creating while striving to sound

we are creating while striving to sound

we are creating while striving to sound our most authentic oh let’s get back to

our most authentic oh let’s get back to

our most authentic oh let’s get back to Beethoven and Michael Jackson moonlight

Beethoven and Michael Jackson moonlight

Beethoven and Michael Jackson moonlight sonata and Thriller one of them is was

sonata and Thriller one of them is was

sonata and Thriller one of them is was composed by a romantic a pivotal

composed by a romantic a pivotal

composed by a romantic a pivotal romantic composer in 1801 and the other

romantic composer in 1801 and the other

romantic composer in 1801 and the other was written by the King of Pop and

was written by the King of Pop and

was written by the King of Pop and performed by the King of Pop in 1982 the

performed by the King of Pop in 1982 the

performed by the King of Pop in 1982 the one is a classical a solo classical

one is a classical a solo classical

one is a classical a solo classical piano piece and the other uses heavy

piano piece and the other uses heavy

piano piece and the other uses heavy modern production but they both are in

modern production but they both are in

modern production but they both are in the same key they’re both in c-sharp

the same key they’re both in c-sharp

the same key they’re both in c-sharp minor so that’s something right now

minor so that’s something right now

minor so that’s something right now Gershwin oh sorry

Gershwin oh sorry

Gershwin oh sorry Michael Jackson and Beethoven may not

Michael Jackson and Beethoven may not

Michael Jackson and Beethoven may not have spoken the same language verbally

have spoken the same language verbally

have spoken the same language verbally or musically but their message is the

or musically but their message is the

or musically but their message is the same

same

same create what is genuine and don’t get too

create what is genuine and don’t get too

create what is genuine and don’t get too caught up in labels now if Beethoven and

caught up in labels now if Beethoven and

caught up in labels now if Beethoven and Michael Jackson could have this much in

Michael Jackson could have this much in

Michael Jackson could have this much in common maybe we have more in common than

common maybe we have more in common than

common maybe we have more in common than we think

we think

we think [Music]

[Music]

[Music] thank you

thank you

thank you [Applause]

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