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[Applause]

[Applause] that’s me when I was 14 when I was 14 I

that’s me when I was 14 when I was 14 I

that’s me when I was 14 when I was 14 I had a really big crush on this guy like

had a really big crush on this guy like

had a really big crush on this guy like a massive crush he was like my best

a massive crush he was like my best

a massive crush he was like my best friend he was a rebel and a rule-breaker

friend he was a rebel and a rule-breaker

friend he was a rebel and a rule-breaker and I wouldn’t shut up about him yeah my

and I wouldn’t shut up about him yeah my

and I wouldn’t shut up about him yeah my crush was Jesus Christ our Lord

III really loved him like hashtag JC as

III really loved him like hashtag JC as well sit

well sit

well sit hashtag gotta love a beard hashtag hot

hashtag gotta love a beard hashtag hot

hashtag gotta love a beard hashtag hot prophet every Sunday I would go to

prophet every Sunday I would go to

prophet every Sunday I would go to church and I would learn about this

church and I would learn about this

church and I would learn about this amazing guy and how I could be more like

amazing guy and how I could be more like

amazing guy and how I could be more like him how to live a full and meaningful

him how to live a full and meaningful

him how to live a full and meaningful life and I loved church

life and I loved church

life and I loved church I loved church I loved this place that

I loved church I loved this place that

I loved church I loved this place that was full of people that that cared about

was full of people that that cared about

was full of people that that cared about me that that were nice and kind of

me that that were nice and kind of

me that that were nice and kind of supportive these people that supported

supportive these people that supported

supportive these people that supported me who understood me

me who understood me

me who understood me who lived a life like me we had shared

who lived a life like me we had shared

who lived a life like me we had shared values they they loved me even when I

values they they loved me even when I

values they they loved me even when I was annoying and I loved them even when

was annoying and I loved them even when

was annoying and I loved them even when they were annoying Church allowed me to

they were annoying Church allowed me to

they were annoying Church allowed me to be a part of something bigger than

be a part of something bigger than

be a part of something bigger than myself to be part of a community jesus

myself to be part of a community jesus

myself to be part of a community jesus loves me this I know for the Bible tells

loves me this I know for the Bible tells

loves me this I know for the Bible tells me so and I read it every day or at

me so and I read it every day or at

me so and I read it every day or at least I try to but some of its pretty

least I try to but some of its pretty

least I try to but some of its pretty heavy going but then when I was about 17

heavy going but then when I was about 17

heavy going but then when I was about 17 I stopped sort of feeling it with Jesus

I stopped sort of feeling it with Jesus

I stopped sort of feeling it with Jesus you know like suddenly we weren’t

you know like suddenly we weren’t

you know like suddenly we weren’t getting on so well anymore like whenever

getting on so well anymore like whenever

getting on so well anymore like whenever I pray it felt like no one was really

I pray it felt like no one was really

I pray it felt like no one was really there we weren’t really talking as much

there we weren’t really talking as much

there we weren’t really talking as much and then suddenly I started to question

and then suddenly I started to question

and then suddenly I started to question what I believed all my life suddenly the

what I believed all my life suddenly the

what I believed all my life suddenly the thing that I believed to be a hundred

thing that I believed to be a hundred

thing that I believed to be a hundred percent true wasn’t such a sure thing

percent true wasn’t such a sure thing

percent true wasn’t such a sure thing and the doubts got bigger and the gap

and the doubts got bigger and the gap

and the doubts got bigger and the gap got wider and soon I felt like I

got wider and soon I felt like I

got wider and soon I felt like I couldn’t really go to church anymore

couldn’t really go to church anymore

couldn’t really go to church anymore because I didn’t really believe in God

because I didn’t really believe in God

because I didn’t really believe in God or really understand what God was and so

or really understand what God was and so

or really understand what God was and so I stopped reading the Bible and I

I stopped reading the Bible and I

I stopped reading the Bible and I No if Jesus loved me because I didn’t

No if Jesus loved me because I didn’t

No if Jesus loved me because I didn’t know if Jesus was real and so I left my

know if Jesus was real and so I left my

know if Jesus was real and so I left my church and I left my happy enclaves and

church and I left my happy enclaves and

church and I left my happy enclaves and I stopped singing the praises of the

I stopped singing the praises of the

I stopped singing the praises of the Lord and I was sad and I was lonely I

Lord and I was sad and I was lonely I

Lord and I was sad and I was lonely I tried to find another church over the

tried to find another church over the

tried to find another church over the next couple of years different churches

next couple of years different churches

next couple of years different churches hoping that Jesus maybe had just escaped

hoping that Jesus maybe had just escaped

hoping that Jesus maybe had just escaped me in that one building but as I was

me in that one building but as I was

me in that one building but as I was there i sat at the back feeling like a

there i sat at the back feeling like a

there i sat at the back feeling like a fraud

fraud

fraud the words when I tried to speak the

the words when I tried to speak the

the words when I tried to speak the Lord’s Prayer wouldn’t come out of my

Lord’s Prayer wouldn’t come out of my

Lord’s Prayer wouldn’t come out of my mouth and when I took communion I just

mouth and when I took communion I just

mouth and when I took communion I just didn’t really want that free wine and as

didn’t really want that free wine and as

didn’t really want that free wine and as a British person you know it’s over if

a British person you know it’s over if

a British person you know it’s over if you don’t want free booze

you don’t want free booze

you don’t want free booze it was difficult I tried to find a space

it was difficult I tried to find a space

it was difficult I tried to find a space but they didn’t seem to be a space for

but they didn’t seem to be a space for

but they didn’t seem to be a space for people who didn’t believe in God but did

people who didn’t believe in God but did

people who didn’t believe in God but did want to work in the community did want

want to work in the community did want

want to work in the community did want to live a full and happy life did want

to live a full and happy life did want

to live a full and happy life did want to be a part of something bigger than

to be a part of something bigger than

to be a part of something bigger than themselves

themselves

themselves I tried atheist meetups but a lot of

I tried atheist meetups but a lot of

I tried atheist meetups but a lot of them seemed to be about campaigning

them seemed to be about campaigning

them seemed to be about campaigning against religion and finding ways to

against religion and finding ways to

against religion and finding ways to mock religious people and having been

mock religious people and having been

mock religious people and having been knocked a lot when I was religious oh

knocked a lot when I was religious oh

knocked a lot when I was religious oh here comes Mary Magdalene again yeah and

here comes Mary Magdalene again yeah and

here comes Mary Magdalene again yeah and also not being quite sure where I felt

also not being quite sure where I felt

also not being quite sure where I felt with the whole god thing it wasn’t

with the whole god thing it wasn’t

with the whole god thing it wasn’t really a space for me why isn’t there a

really a space for me why isn’t there a

really a space for me why isn’t there a soft church for people who do not

soft church for people who do not

soft church for people who do not believe in God I lamented and then I

believe in God I lamented and then I

believe in God I lamented and then I went to university and then I went to

went to university and then I went to

went to university and then I went to start working and then I stopped

start working and then I stopped

start working and then I stopped celebrating life and I just started

celebrating life and I just started

celebrating life and I just started getting on with it fast forward 13 years

getting on with it fast forward 13 years

getting on with it fast forward 13 years and I’m now a full-time comedian and

and I’m now a full-time comedian and

and I’m now a full-time comedian and improviser it’s 2012 and I’m driving

improviser it’s 2012 and I’m driving

improviser it’s 2012 and I’m driving down the m4 on my way to a comedy gig

down the m4 on my way to a comedy gig

down the m4 on my way to a comedy gig and in the passenger seat of my car is

and in the passenger seat of my car is

and in the passenger seat of my car is fellow comedian Sanderson Jones

fellow comedian Sanderson Jones

fellow comedian Sanderson Jones Sanderson is like a big beardy sunshine

Sanderson is like a big beardy sunshine

Sanderson is like a big beardy sunshine and he really really looked like someone

and he really really looked like someone

and he really really looked like someone that I couldn’t quite figure out who

but then I realized it was Barry Gibb I

but then I realized it was Barry Gibb I started telling Sanderson about my

started telling Sanderson about my

started telling Sanderson about my wedding I’d recently got married and my

wedding I’d recently got married and my

wedding I’d recently got married and my mum was really keen on us having a

mum was really keen on us having a

mum was really keen on us having a church wedding because although not

church wedding because although not

church wedding because although not exclusively for this reason she wanted

exclusively for this reason she wanted

exclusively for this reason she wanted to and I quote wear a big hat my husband

to and I quote wear a big hat my husband

to and I quote wear a big hat my husband and I wanted a more secular arrangement

and I wanted a more secular arrangement

and I wanted a more secular arrangement so we were trying to find a way that we

so we were trying to find a way that we

so we were trying to find a way that we could balance tradition and ritual but

could balance tradition and ritual but

could balance tradition and ritual but also without the religious bits

also without the religious bits

also without the religious bits we’d been to quite a few non-religious

we’d been to quite a few non-religious

we’d been to quite a few non-religious weddings but they’ve been quite stark

weddings but they’ve been quite stark

weddings but they’ve been quite stark sort of so ripped out of ritual that it

sort of so ripped out of ritual that it

sort of so ripped out of ritual that it was less an important milestone in your

was less an important milestone in your

was less an important milestone in your life more a witnessing of a pen

life more a witnessing of a pen

life more a witnessing of a pen scratching on paper so we got married in

scratching on paper so we got married in

scratching on paper so we got married in Wilton’s old-time Music Hall which is a

Wilton’s old-time Music Hall which is a

Wilton’s old-time Music Hall which is a building in East London that is steeped

building in East London that is steeped

building in East London that is steeped in history my friends improvised a

in history my friends improvised a

in history my friends improvised a choral piece as I walk down the aisle

choral piece as I walk down the aisle

choral piece as I walk down the aisle arm in arm with my dad we shared our

arm in arm with my dad we shared our

arm in arm with my dad we shared our vows in front of friends and family and

vows in front of friends and family and

vows in front of friends and family and instead of a hymn we sang when I’m 64

instead of a hymn we sang when I’m 64

instead of a hymn we sang when I’m 64 and everybody sang along it felt

and everybody sang along it felt

and everybody sang along it felt traditional but modern new but old

traditional but modern new but old

traditional but modern new but old secular but rich in ritual and my mum

secular but rich in ritual and my mum

secular but rich in ritual and my mum got to wear her hat Sanderson was very

got to wear her hat Sanderson was very

got to wear her hat Sanderson was very excited about this and he said he had

excited about this and he said he had

excited about this and he said he had the same feeling about Carol concerts

the same feeling about Carol concerts

the same feeling about Carol concerts how much he loved them but as a

how much he loved them but as a

how much he loved them but as a committed atheist he couldn’t get along

committed atheist he couldn’t get along

committed atheist he couldn’t get along with the central story but what he could

with the central story but what he could

with the central story but what he could get along with was a celebration of

get along with was a celebration of

get along with was a celebration of family a time for thankfulness and

family a time for thankfulness and

family a time for thankfulness and reflecting on a year that has passed and

reflecting on a year that has passed and

reflecting on a year that has passed and then we don’t really know how to fit

then we don’t really know how to fit

then we don’t really know how to fit went but one of us said to each other

went but one of us said to each other

went but one of us said to each other I’ve always wondered if you could do

I’ve always wondered if you could do

I’ve always wondered if you could do church without the God bit and the other

church without the God bit and the other

church without the God bit and the other one said so have I and so we decided to

one said so have I and so we decided to

one said so have I and so we decided to give it a go as we drove up to the

give it a go as we drove up to the

give it a go as we drove up to the commedia comedy club in bath we decided

commedia comedy club in bath we decided

commedia comedy club in bath we decided to attempt to create church without God

to attempt to create church without God

to attempt to create church without God how hard could it be the answer is

how hard could it be the answer is

how hard could it be the answer is really freaking hard yeah especially

really freaking hard yeah especially

really freaking hard yeah especially when you’re two comedians who do not

when you’re two comedians who do not

when you’re two comedians who do not know what they are doing it turns out it

know what they are doing it turns out it

know what they are doing it turns out it takes a lot of time and energy and

takes a lot of time and energy and

takes a lot of time and energy and effort to even begin to dissect what

effort to even begin to dissect what

effort to even begin to dissect what humans need and what we can learn from

humans need and what we can learn from

humans need and what we can learn from what has gone before and so we decided

what has gone before and so we decided

what has gone before and so we decided to go with what we did

to go with what we did

to go with what we did so we combined our comedy knowledge with

so we combined our comedy knowledge with

so we combined our comedy knowledge with my church knowledge and we created an

my church knowledge and we created an

my church knowledge and we created an order of service or setlist if you will

order of service or setlist if you will

order of service or setlist if you will instead of hymns we had pop songs

instead of hymns we had pop songs

instead of hymns we had pop songs instead of a sermon we had a we had a

instead of a sermon we had a we had a

instead of a sermon we had a we had a speaker instead of a reading we had a

speaker instead of a reading we had a

speaker instead of a reading we had a poem and instead of prayer we decided to

poem and instead of prayer we decided to

poem and instead of prayer we decided to have a silent moment of reflection we

have a silent moment of reflection we

have a silent moment of reflection we decided to call it Sunday assembly and

decided to call it Sunday assembly and

decided to call it Sunday assembly and together we came up with a motto live

together we came up with a motto live

together we came up with a motto live better help often or wonder more that is

better help often or wonder more that is

better help often or wonder more that is look to your insides look at the needs

look to your insides look at the needs

look to your insides look at the needs around you be inspired by the world we

around you be inspired by the world we

around you be inspired by the world we found a venue a deconsecrated Church in

found a venue a deconsecrated Church in

found a venue a deconsecrated Church in North London seemed like a appropriate

North London seemed like a appropriate

North London seemed like a appropriate place to have it I was a bit worried it

place to have it I was a bit worried it

place to have it I was a bit worried it was a bit big but Sanderson reassured me

was a bit big but Sanderson reassured me

was a bit big but Sanderson reassured me that we’d definitely be able to fill it

that we’d definitely be able to fill it

that we’d definitely be able to fill it we booked a speaker we found a band we

we booked a speaker we found a band we

we booked a speaker we found a band we sent out a press release

sent out a press release

sent out a press release suddenly Sanderson was a bit nervous

suddenly Sanderson was a bit nervous

suddenly Sanderson was a bit nervous that maybe we couldn’t fill it so I

that maybe we couldn’t fill it so I

that maybe we couldn’t fill it so I reassured him that we definitely could

reassured him that we definitely could

reassured him that we definitely could we alternated between the doubter and

we alternated between the doubter and

we alternated between the doubter and the encourage ur on the 3rd of January

the encourage ur on the 3rd of January

the encourage ur on the 3rd of January 2013 we had our first Sunday assembly

2013 we had our first Sunday assembly

2013 we had our first Sunday assembly and over 200 people turned up it was

and over 200 people turned up it was

and over 200 people turned up it was amazing we sang our we sang Bon Jovi and

amazing we sang our we sang Bon Jovi and

amazing we sang our we sang Bon Jovi and Queen we our speaker spoke about how

Queen we our speaker spoke about how

Queen we our speaker spoke about how important the stories are to humans and

important the stories are to humans and

important the stories are to humans and loads of people stayed behind after to

loads of people stayed behind after to

loads of people stayed behind after to drink tea and also to offer their help

drink tea and also to offer their help

drink tea and also to offer their help we’ve hit on something something that

we’ve hit on something something that

we’ve hit on something something that rang true for a lot of people of no

rang true for a lot of people of no

rang true for a lot of people of no fixed belief it went viral before we’d

fixed belief it went viral before we’d

fixed belief it went viral before we’d even closed the doors the stories went

even closed the doors the stories went

even closed the doors the stories went around the internet and we were dubbed

around the internet and we were dubbed

around the internet and we were dubbed the atheist Church we started receiving

the atheist Church we started receiving

the atheist Church we started receiving emails from people all over the world as

emails from people all over the world as

emails from people all over the world as well some telling us we were going to

well some telling us we were going to

well some telling us we were going to hell but most of them telling us that

hell but most of them telling us that

hell but most of them telling us that this was exactly what they’ve been

this was exactly what they’ve been

this was exactly what they’ve been looking for for their entire lives what

looking for for their entire lives what

looking for for their entire lives what we’ve hit upon was a space that was

we’ve hit upon was a space that was

we’ve hit upon was a space that was non-religious not anti religious

non-religious not anti religious

non-religious not anti religious according to a recent study by the

according to a recent study by the

according to a recent study by the National Center for Social Research over

National Center for Social Research over

National Center for Social Research over 50 percent of the UK now identify as

50 percent of the UK now identify as

50 percent of the UK now identify as non-religious and according to Pew

non-religious and according to Pew

non-religious and according to Pew Research about a fifth of Americans also

Research about a fifth of Americans also

Research about a fifth of Americans also fall into this category and so what

fall into this category and so what

fall into this category and so what we’ve done unknowingly was created a

we’ve done unknowingly was created a

we’ve done unknowingly was created a space for these

space for these

space for these people sunday assembly turns five years

people sunday assembly turns five years

people sunday assembly turns five years old in January and we now boast a global

old in January and we now boast a global

old in January and we now boast a global global network of around 70 Sunday

global network of around 70 Sunday

global network of around 70 Sunday assemblies across the world from LA to

assemblies across the world from LA to

assemblies across the world from LA to Edinburgh from Manchester to London from

Edinburgh from Manchester to London from

Edinburgh from Manchester to London from Utrecht to Canberra was a strange

Utrecht to Canberra was a strange

Utrecht to Canberra was a strange reference you’re right these people meet

reference you’re right these people meet

reference you’re right these people meet over 5000 people meet every month in the

over 5000 people meet every month in the

over 5000 people meet every month in the name of non religious community it spin

name of non religious community it spin

name of non religious community it spin in a map journey but we’ve had highs and

in a map journey but we’ve had highs and

in a map journey but we’ve had highs and lows and everything in between but we’re

lows and everything in between but we’re

lows and everything in between but we’re not the only people doing this Sunday

not the only people doing this Sunday

not the only people doing this Sunday Assembly isn’t the only way of creating

Assembly isn’t the only way of creating

Assembly isn’t the only way of creating a non-religious congregation there’s

a non-religious congregation there’s

a non-religious congregation there’s lots of people as we discovered on our

lots of people as we discovered on our

lots of people as we discovered on our journey doing this around the world

journey doing this around the world

journey doing this around the world people places like Oasis in Houston

people places like Oasis in Houston

people places like Oasis in Houston which is a secular congregation very

which is a secular congregation very

which is a secular congregation very similar to Sunday assembly the Harvard

similar to Sunday assembly the Harvard

similar to Sunday assembly the Harvard Divinity School now hosts a humanist hub

Divinity School now hosts a humanist hub

Divinity School now hosts a humanist hub which is led by Greg Epstein where they

which is led by Greg Epstein where they

which is led by Greg Epstein where they among other things lead young people

among other things lead young people

among other things lead young people from the Boston area in a sort of mix

from the Boston area in a sort of mix

from the Boston area in a sort of mix between a Bar Mitzvah and a Sunday

between a Bar Mitzvah and a Sunday

between a Bar Mitzvah and a Sunday school but without the religious bits

school but without the religious bits

school but without the religious bits Antipa Kula is an atheist minister who

Antipa Kula is an atheist minister who

Antipa Kula is an atheist minister who works with new unity which is a church

works with new unity which is a church

works with new unity which is a church in North London where the congregation a

in North London where the congregation a

in North London where the congregation a lot of them don’t believe in God but

lot of them don’t believe in God but

lot of them don’t believe in God but they do believe in good Kaspar – Kyle oh

they do believe in good Kaspar – Kyle oh

they do believe in good Kaspar – Kyle oh and we had oh sorry we’ve had a

and we had oh sorry we’ve had a

and we had oh sorry we’ve had a protester I forgot some wrench for that

protester I forgot some wrench for that

protester I forgot some wrench for that this is our protester just one because

this is our protester just one because

this is our protester just one because obviously when you think about it

obviously when you think about it

obviously when you think about it there’s not really anything to protest

there’s not really anything to protest

there’s not really anything to protest and you can’t have been that angry

and you can’t have been that angry

and you can’t have been that angry because he lets Anderson have his

because he lets Anderson have his

because he lets Anderson have his picture taken with him yes so Casper –

picture taken with him yes so Casper –

picture taken with him yes so Casper – Kyle and Angie Thurston say in their

Kyle and Angie Thurston say in their

Kyle and Angie Thurston say in their paper how we gather the lack of deep

paper how we gather the lack of deep

paper how we gather the lack of deep community is indeed keenly felt suicide

community is indeed keenly felt suicide

community is indeed keenly felt suicide is the third leading cause of death

is the third leading cause of death

is the third leading cause of death among youth rates of isolation

among youth rates of isolation

among youth rates of isolation loneliness and depression continue to

loneliness and depression continue to

loneliness and depression continue to rise as traditional religion struggles

rise as traditional religion struggles

rise as traditional religion struggles to attract young people Millennials are

to attract young people Millennials are

to attract young people Millennials are looking elsewhere with increasing

looking elsewhere with increasing

looking elsewhere with increasing urgency and in some cases they’re

urgency and in some cases they’re

urgency and in some cases they’re creating what they don’t find we have

creating what they don’t find we have

creating what they don’t find we have countless testimonials of people who

countless testimonials of people who

countless testimonials of people who have come to Sunday assembly and said

have come to Sunday assembly and said

have come to Sunday assembly and said that without it they wouldn’t have

that without it they wouldn’t have

that without it they wouldn’t have space to grow I’ve seen people with

space to grow I’ve seen people with

space to grow I’ve seen people with crippling anxiety go from hiding at the

crippling anxiety go from hiding at the

crippling anxiety go from hiding at the back of the hall to addressing a four

back of the hall to addressing a four

back of the hall to addressing a four hundred strong crowd I’ve talked to

hundred strong crowd I’ve talked to

hundred strong crowd I’ve talked to people who had to leave their family

people who had to leave their family

people who had to leave their family home because they dared to question the

home because they dared to question the

home because they dared to question the belief system that they were brought up

belief system that they were brought up

belief system that they were brought up in who came to Sunday assembly and found

in who came to Sunday assembly and found

in who came to Sunday assembly and found solace there because we told them not

solace there because we told them not

solace there because we told them not whether there was a god or not but that

whether there was a god or not but that

whether there was a god or not but that they were a valuable person that they

they were a valuable person that they

they were a valuable person that they had something to contribute

had something to contribute

had something to contribute we have couples who come who are both of

we have couples who come who are both of

we have couples who come who are both of a different faith who find that Sunday

a different faith who find that Sunday

a different faith who find that Sunday assembly as a space that they can both

assembly as a space that they can both

assembly as a space that they can both enjoy because the sunday assembly

enjoy because the sunday assembly

enjoy because the sunday assembly experience sits alongside their faith

experience sits alongside their faith

experience sits alongside their faith rather than forcing them to renounce it

rather than forcing them to renounce it

rather than forcing them to renounce it I’ve met people so lonely that they

I’ve met people so lonely that they

I’ve met people so lonely that they considered ending their own life but

considered ending their own life but

considered ending their own life but they found Sunday assembly and they

they found Sunday assembly and they

they found Sunday assembly and they found community they found purpose they

found community they found purpose they

found community they found purpose they found a space in a 2012 study cocksure

found a space in a 2012 study cocksure

found a space in a 2012 study cocksure and Rockets demonstrated a link between

and Rockets demonstrated a link between

and Rockets demonstrated a link between belongingness and depression where

belongingness and depression where

belongingness and depression where belongingness was shown to have strong

belongingness was shown to have strong

belongingness was shown to have strong additive links to depressive symptoms in

additive links to depressive symptoms in

additive links to depressive symptoms in other words if you feel like you belong

other words if you feel like you belong

other words if you feel like you belong somewhere you feel less sad if everyone

somewhere you feel less sad if everyone

somewhere you feel less sad if everyone who felt like they had nowhere to go

who felt like they had nowhere to go

who felt like they had nowhere to go found that they did have somewhere to go

found that they did have somewhere to go

found that they did have somewhere to go somewhere like a Sunday assembly a place

somewhere like a Sunday assembly a place

somewhere like a Sunday assembly a place that allowed them to be a part of

that allowed them to be a part of

that allowed them to be a part of something something bigger than

something something bigger than

something something bigger than themselves but encouraged them to live

themselves but encouraged them to live

themselves but encouraged them to live better help often and wonder more that

better help often and wonder more that

better help often and wonder more that could it be anything other than a good

could it be anything other than a good

could it be anything other than a good thing could it I’m glad I had that crush

thing could it I’m glad I had that crush

thing could it I’m glad I had that crush on Jesus hashtag nice now because it

on Jesus hashtag nice now because it

on Jesus hashtag nice now because it allowed me to enjoy community to

allowed me to enjoy community to

allowed me to enjoy community to experience the good that can come from

experience the good that can come from

experience the good that can come from it but also the loneliness that comes

it but also the loneliness that comes

it but also the loneliness that comes from not having it from losing it and it

from not having it from losing it and it

from not having it from losing it and it was that experience that led me to

was that experience that led me to

was that experience that led me to realize we need to create alternative

realize we need to create alternative

realize we need to create alternative spaces so that people don’t have to

spaces so that people don’t have to

spaces so that people don’t have to experience that loneliness or can at

experience that loneliness or can at

experience that loneliness or can at least have a respite from it we need to

least have a respite from it we need to

least have a respite from it we need to create spaces new spaces in between

create spaces new spaces in between

create spaces new spaces in between spaces there is a space for us we just

spaces there is a space for us we just

spaces there is a space for us we just have to build it thank you

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