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Indigenous Knowledge and Ocean Science | ’Qátuw̓as Jessica Brown | TEDxBrentwoodCollegeSchool


yo hey have yo doc in yellow smoke Alexi

yo hey have yo doc in yellow smoke Alexi got to us con agua Heil stuff do Neutron

got to us con agua Heil stuff do Neutron

got to us con agua Heil stuff do Neutron off I want to start off by first

off I want to start off by first

off I want to start off by first acknowledging the ancestral homelands of

acknowledging the ancestral homelands of

acknowledging the ancestral homelands of the malahat people so I’m going to tell

the malahat people so I’m going to tell

the malahat people so I’m going to tell you a story of the salmon people this is

you a story of the salmon people this is

you a story of the salmon people this is a part of Helsing oral history that was

a part of Helsing oral history that was

a part of Helsing oral history that was told to me by my brother

told to me by my brother

told to me by my brother Ajitha in Klotz jaw within Helsing

Ajitha in Klotz jaw within Helsing

Ajitha in Klotz jaw within Helsing territory the people had a fish we’re

territory the people had a fish we’re

territory the people had a fish we’re and the Chiefs had a set of twins and in

and the Chiefs had a set of twins and in

and the Chiefs had a set of twins and in our culture twins signify a good return

our culture twins signify a good return

our culture twins signify a good return of salmon that the year that they’re

of salmon that the year that they’re

of salmon that the year that they’re born and he had a boy and a girl and the

born and he had a boy and a girl and the

born and he had a boy and a girl and the boy misused the salmon the fish we’re he

boy misused the salmon the fish we’re he

boy misused the salmon the fish we’re he left them in there to die he didn’t let

left them in there to die he didn’t let

left them in there to die he didn’t let them return up the river and he also

them return up the river and he also

them return up the river and he also didn’t use them for food so because of

didn’t use them for food so because of

didn’t use them for food so because of his actions

his actions

his actions the salmon did not return to the fishery

the salmon did not return to the fishery

the salmon did not return to the fishery or to the river and his sister became

or to the river and his sister became

or to the river and his sister became very ill and she died because of this

very ill and she died because of this

very ill and she died because of this the boy decided he needed to do

the boy decided he needed to do

the boy decided he needed to do something he went to the river and he

something he went to the river and he

something he went to the river and he prayed and his prayers were heard

prayed and his prayers were heard

prayed and his prayers were heard supernatural forces sucked him beneath

supernatural forces sucked him beneath

supernatural forces sucked him beneath the water into the underwater realm he

the water into the underwater realm he

the water into the underwater realm he was taken to the house of the salmon and

was taken to the house of the salmon and

was taken to the house of the salmon and there the salmon told him of how their

there the salmon told him of how their

there the salmon told him of how their anger for his great disrespect to the

anger for his great disrespect to the

anger for his great disrespect to the salmon but they also offered to teach

salmon but they also offered to teach

salmon but they also offered to teach him to teach him the ways of the salmon

him to teach him the ways of the salmon

him to teach him the ways of the salmon so he stayed there for what he thought

so he stayed there for what he thought

so he stayed there for what he thought was four days and he learned the ways of

was four days and he learned the ways of

was four days and he learned the ways of the salmon but eventually he was sent

the salmon but eventually he was sent

the salmon but eventually he was sent home and as he began to move towards his

home and as he began to move towards his

home and as he began to move towards his village he realized he could breathe

village he realized he could breathe

village he realized he could breathe beneath the water he realized he had

beneath the water he realized he had

beneath the water he realized he had become a sad

become a sad

become a sad and suddenly he was speared he heard

and suddenly he was speared he heard

and suddenly he was speared he heard crying from his mother who recognized

crying from his mother who recognized

crying from his mother who recognized the copper necklace that he always wore

the copper necklace that he always wore

the copper necklace that he always wore all the people of the village gathered

all the people of the village gathered

all the people of the village gathered because this was the first time a salmon

because this was the first time a salmon

because this was the first time a salmon had returned to the river in four years

had returned to the river in four years

had returned to the river in four years and the mother she called a spiritually

and the mother she called a spiritually

and the mother she called a spiritually enlightened individual a shaman and he

enlightened individual a shaman and he

enlightened individual a shaman and he showed the people the salmon with the

showed the people the salmon with the

showed the people the salmon with the copper necklace he then placed a mat

copper necklace he then placed a mat

copper necklace he then placed a mat over top of the salmon he spread some

over top of the salmon he spread some

over top of the salmon he spread some eagle down and he began to pray he began

eagle down and he began to pray he began

eagle down and he began to pray he began to chant he then removed the mat from

to chant he then removed the mat from

to chant he then removed the mat from the salmon and beneath the mat was the

the salmon and beneath the mat was the

the salmon and beneath the mat was the boy from that day forward the boy taught

boy from that day forward the boy taught

boy from that day forward the boy taught his people the lessons of the salmon he

his people the lessons of the salmon he

his people the lessons of the salmon he taught them that we should never waste

taught them that we should never waste

taught them that we should never waste that we must respect the salmon we must

that we must respect the salmon we must

that we must respect the salmon we must respect their sacrifice of their life

respect their sacrifice of their life

respect their sacrifice of their life that they give to people and to animals

that they give to people and to animals

that they give to people and to animals to trees and the nutrients that they

to trees and the nutrients that they

to trees and the nutrients that they bring to the forest so this story is

bring to the forest so this story is

bring to the forest so this story is about the ocean and it’s backed up by

about the ocean and it’s backed up by

about the ocean and it’s backed up by archaeal recent archaeological studies

archaeal recent archaeological studies

archaeal recent archaeological studies that prove that reaffirm my nation has

that prove that reaffirm my nation has

that prove that reaffirm my nation has existed in our place for at least

existed in our place for at least

existed in our place for at least fourteen thousand five hundred years

fourteen thousand five hundred years

fourteen thousand five hundred years that’s eight thousand five hundred years

that’s eight thousand five hundred years

that’s eight thousand five hundred years before the pyramids were ever built

before the pyramids were ever built

before the pyramids were ever built I come from an ancient society so the

I come from an ancient society so the

I come from an ancient society so the ocean it’s a magnificent thing it’s a

ocean it’s a magnificent thing it’s a

ocean it’s a magnificent thing it’s a life-giving force we give it all types

life-giving force we give it all types

life-giving force we give it all types of names we call it the Atlantic the end

of names we call it the Atlantic the end

of names we call it the Atlantic the end the Pacific Ocean but in reality there’s

the Pacific Ocean but in reality there’s

the Pacific Ocean but in reality there’s really only one ocean and it covers over

really only one ocean and it covers over

really only one ocean and it covers over 70% of our world it connects us from

70% of our world it connects us from

70% of our world it connects us from coast to coast so I want you all to do

coast to coast so I want you all to do

coast to coast so I want you all to do me a favor right now if you could take a

me a favor right now if you could take a

me a favor right now if you could take a deep breath in and out one more time

deep breath in and out one more time

deep breath in and out one more time take a deep breath in and out

now just think that over 50% of the

now just think that over 50% of the world’s oxygen comes from our ocean but

world’s oxygen comes from our ocean but

world’s oxygen comes from our ocean but it is a tremendous life-giving force to

it is a tremendous life-giving force to

it is a tremendous life-giving force to all living beings on earth we are all

all living beings on earth we are all

all living beings on earth we are all connected to the ocean just as we’re all

connected to the ocean just as we’re all

connected to the ocean just as we’re all connected to one another and to earth

connected to one another and to earth

connected to one another and to earth and it is this relationship that I’m

and it is this relationship that I’m

and it is this relationship that I’m here to talk to you about this

here to talk to you about this

here to talk to you about this relationship that we must uphold to the

relationship that we must uphold to the

relationship that we must uphold to the ocean so the place that I come from on

ocean so the place that I come from on

ocean so the place that I come from on my mother’s side the house that nation

my mother’s side the house that nation

my mother’s side the house that nation of the new channels people and the house

of the new channels people and the house

of the new channels people and the house ik and the Central Coast

ik and the Central Coast

ik and the Central Coast both have recognized this reciprocal

both have recognized this reciprocal

both have recognized this reciprocal relationship with the ocean for

relationship with the ocean for

relationship with the ocean for thousands of years we’ve always realized

thousands of years we’ve always realized

thousands of years we’ve always realized that the ocean gives us sustenance we

that the ocean gives us sustenance we

that the ocean gives us sustenance we worked to maintain sustainability and

worked to maintain sustainability and

worked to maintain sustainability and then enhance our food sources our

then enhance our food sources our

then enhance our food sources our relatives this is my grandmother

relatives this is my grandmother

relatives this is my grandmother Margaret brown she’s in herself she’s in

Margaret brown she’s in herself she’s in

Margaret brown she’s in herself she’s in her late 70s

her late 70s

her late 70s she’s affluent health six-speaker I

she’s affluent health six-speaker I

she’s affluent health six-speaker I talked to her about the ocean and she

talked to her about the ocean and she

talked to her about the ocean and she told me a story of her late grandfather

told me a story of her late grandfather

told me a story of her late grandfather Louie ha who worked very hard to harvest

Louie ha who worked very hard to harvest

Louie ha who worked very hard to harvest and prepare seafood for his large family

and prepare seafood for his large family

and prepare seafood for his large family her favorite was and dried herring eggs

her favorite was and dried herring eggs

her favorite was and dried herring eggs dipped in to seal grease within her

dipped in to seal grease within her

dipped in to seal grease within her lifetime she has watched her food source

lifetime she has watched her food source

lifetime she has watched her food source degrade before her very eyes

degrade before her very eyes

degrade before her very eyes her grandson still actively harvests the

her grandson still actively harvests the

her grandson still actively harvests the majority of herseif

majority of herseif

majority of herseif but it tastes different the texture

but it tastes different the texture

but it tastes different the texture imagine going from abundance of food

imagine going from abundance of food

imagine going from abundance of food that’s harvest from the ocean by your by

that’s harvest from the ocean by your by

that’s harvest from the ocean by your by your family within your homelands to the

your family within your homelands to the

your family within your homelands to the aisles of a grocery store that all of a

aisles of a grocery store that all of a

aisles of a grocery store that all of a sudden your staples your eggs bacon and

sudden your staples your eggs bacon and

sudden your staples your eggs bacon and bread your daily coffee it’s not

bread your daily coffee it’s not

bread your daily coffee it’s not available to you anymore imagine the

available to you anymore imagine the

available to you anymore imagine the suffering that you would feel the

suffering that you would feel the

suffering that you would feel the desperation of your body for the foods

desperation of your body for the foods

desperation of your body for the foods that you’ve evolved eating your

that you’ve evolved eating your

that you’ve evolved eating your ancestors have evolved eating and too

ancestors have evolved eating and too

ancestors have evolved eating and too often the degradation of indigenous food

often the degradation of indigenous food

often the degradation of indigenous food systems is overlooked for convenience

systems is overlooked for convenience

systems is overlooked for convenience and capitalism this is affected

and capitalism this is affected

and capitalism this is affected indigenous peoples health for example 33

indigenous peoples health for example 33

indigenous peoples health for example 33 percent that’s one in every three people

percent that’s one in every three people

percent that’s one in every three people in my community now has diabetes and

in my community now has diabetes and

in my community now has diabetes and that’s from the rapid introduction of

that’s from the rapid introduction of

that’s from the rapid introduction of Western food and poverty but people

Western food and poverty but people

Western food and poverty but people today up in health of territory along

today up in health of territory along

today up in health of territory along this coast

this coast

this coast they still Buffalo they gather

they still Buffalo they gather

they still Buffalo they gather traditional foods foods that have

traditional foods foods that have

traditional foods foods that have sustained us and our relationship so I

sustained us and our relationship so I

sustained us and our relationship so I want to give you an example of what

want to give you an example of what

want to give you an example of what indigenous science is so the image

indigenous science is so the image

indigenous science is so the image behind me this is herring eggs when I

behind me this is herring eggs when I

behind me this is herring eggs when I talked with my grandmother viking aunt

talked with my grandmother viking aunt

talked with my grandmother viking aunt so for example when you think of

so for example when you think of

so for example when you think of ecological or seasonal indicators so

ecological or seasonal indicators so

ecological or seasonal indicators so those are natural signals that tell us

those are natural signals that tell us

those are natural signals that tell us when it’s time to harvest and so for the

when it’s time to harvest and so for the

when it’s time to harvest and so for the moon when the moon tips over new sea and

moon when the moon tips over new sea and

moon when the moon tips over new sea and it’s at a quarter moon it’s very small

it’s at a quarter moon it’s very small

it’s at a quarter moon it’s very small it signifies that the herring will soon

it signifies that the herring will soon

it signifies that the herring will soon spawn it’s the healthy new year

so this is an example of my people

so this is an example of my people observing the gravitational pull and the

observing the gravitational pull and the

observing the gravitational pull and the effect the moon has on tides because

effect the moon has on tides because

effect the moon has on tides because when the moon is smallest the tides are

when the moon is smallest the tides are

when the moon is smallest the tides are smallest so our science is not just

smallest so our science is not just

smallest so our science is not just based on what a lot of people deem is

based on what a lot of people deem is

based on what a lot of people deem is folklore story it’s based on a practical

folklore story it’s based on a practical

folklore story it’s based on a practical relationship in place so there is a

relationship in place so there is a

relationship in place so there is a difference between indigenous knowledge

difference between indigenous knowledge

difference between indigenous knowledge digitus science and Western science so I

digitus science and Western science so I

digitus science and Western science so I think I’ll explain that first so the

think I’ll explain that first so the

think I’ll explain that first so the difference is indigenous science we you

difference is indigenous science we you

difference is indigenous science we you can’t have indigenous science without

can’t have indigenous science without

can’t have indigenous science without having indigenous culture we put nature

having indigenous culture we put nature

having indigenous culture we put nature at the center whereas Western science

at the center whereas Western science

at the center whereas Western science often distance itself from culture and

often distance itself from culture and

often distance itself from culture and we often put man at the center of

we often put man at the center of

we often put man at the center of Western science and different scientists

Western science and different scientists

Western science and different scientists and different indigenous people will

and different indigenous people will

and different indigenous people will have different opinions on this it’s

have different opinions on this it’s

have different opinions on this it’s controversial but this is what I believe

controversial but this is what I believe

controversial but this is what I believe this is my grandfather Gaia and I asked

this is my grandfather Gaia and I asked

this is my grandfather Gaia and I asked him about these seasonal indicators

him about these seasonal indicators

him about these seasonal indicators these ecological indicators and their

these ecological indicators and their

these ecological indicators and their importance to our culture he responded

importance to our culture he responded

importance to our culture he responded that these natural signals they’re no

that these natural signals they’re no

that these natural signals they’re no longer as important because our

longer as important because our

longer as important because our environment is changing it’s all

environment is changing it’s all

environment is changing it’s all changing this is showing that Gaia has

changing this is showing that Gaia has

changing this is showing that Gaia has witnessed shifting baselines in his

witnessed shifting baselines in his

witnessed shifting baselines in his lifetime he’s experienced climate change

lifetime he’s experienced climate change

lifetime he’s experienced climate change firsthand within our home territory

firsthand within our home territory

firsthand within our home territory witnessing the collapse of salmon Co

witnessing the collapse of salmon Co

witnessing the collapse of salmon Co abalone and now our herring stocks but

abalone and now our herring stocks but

abalone and now our herring stocks but Western science is telling us this is

Western science is telling us this is

Western science is telling us this is not rare to the house of people on the

not rare to the house of people on the

not rare to the house of people on the Central Coast that global fish stocks

Central Coast that global fish stocks

Central Coast that global fish stocks are collapsing that oxygen deficient

are collapsing that oxygen deficient

are collapsing that oxygen deficient dead zones in the ocean are expanding

dead zones in the ocean are expanding

dead zones in the ocean are expanding that debris and pollution are increasing

that debris and pollution are increasing

that debris and pollution are increasing they’re working really hard to figure

they’re working really hard to figure

they’re working really hard to figure out solutions

out solutions

out solutions Solutions for our relationship with the

Solutions for our relationship with the

Solutions for our relationship with the ocean on ways we can mitigate these

ocean on ways we can mitigate these

ocean on ways we can mitigate these negative effects these changes so as

negative effects these changes so as

negative effects these changes so as Canada celebrated its hundred and fifty

Canada celebrated its hundred and fifty

Canada celebrated its hundred and fifty years of nationhood a lot of indigenous

years of nationhood a lot of indigenous

years of nationhood a lot of indigenous people felt the pain of a hundred of

people felt the pain of a hundred of

people felt the pain of a hundred of fifty years of ongoing colonization

fifty years of ongoing colonization

fifty years of ongoing colonization so it’s this difference in experience

so it’s this difference in experience

so it’s this difference in experience this difference of dichotomy that we

this difference of dichotomy that we

this difference of dichotomy that we need to overcome as a society in order

need to overcome as a society in order

need to overcome as a society in order to have effective management of our

to have effective management of our

to have effective management of our oceans so on the Pacific Northwest Coast

oceans so on the Pacific Northwest Coast

oceans so on the Pacific Northwest Coast we have great biodiversity and it’s the

we have great biodiversity and it’s the

we have great biodiversity and it’s the ocean that is the equalizing factor

ocean that is the equalizing factor

ocean that is the equalizing factor giving us this biological diversity and

giving us this biological diversity and

giving us this biological diversity and it is this ecosystem that we need to

it is this ecosystem that we need to

it is this ecosystem that we need to maintain that’s very rare on this planet

maintain that’s very rare on this planet

maintain that’s very rare on this planet in order to obtain our cultural

in order to obtain our cultural

in order to obtain our cultural diversity as coastal indigenous peoples

diversity as coastal indigenous peoples

diversity as coastal indigenous peoples so to work to mitigate the effects or

so to work to mitigate the effects or

so to work to mitigate the effects or the contrast in values between

the contrast in values between

the contrast in values between indigenous science or indigenous science

indigenous science or indigenous science

indigenous science or indigenous science and Western science I work for ocean

and Western science I work for ocean

and Western science I work for ocean networks Canada because I believe we can

networks Canada because I believe we can

networks Canada because I believe we can learn from both ways of thinking we’re a

learn from both ways of thinking we’re a

learn from both ways of thinking we’re a deep-sea research facility out of the

deep-sea research facility out of the

deep-sea research facility out of the University of Victoria we’re world

University of Victoria we’re world

University of Victoria we’re world leading in cabled observatories we have

leading in cabled observatories we have

leading in cabled observatories we have instrumentation in the deep sea in

instrumentation in the deep sea in

instrumentation in the deep sea in coastal communities and in the Arctic

coastal communities and in the Arctic

coastal communities and in the Arctic and we’re looking at our changing ocean

and we’re looking at our changing ocean

and we’re looking at our changing ocean we’re looking at climate change we’re

we’re looking at climate change we’re

we’re looking at climate change we’re putting instruments down and collecting

putting instruments down and collecting

putting instruments down and collecting 24/7 real-time data and what I think is

24/7 real-time data and what I think is

24/7 real-time data and what I think is all people have always adapted to change

all people have always adapted to change

all people have always adapted to change and as coastal indigenous communities we

and as coastal indigenous communities we

and as coastal indigenous communities we were also adapting to change and

were also adapting to change and

were also adapting to change and utilizing for example innovative

utilizing for example innovative

utilizing for example innovative technologies such as ocean networks

technologies such as ocean networks

technologies such as ocean networks Canada to understand

Canada to understand

Canada to understand our natural world we’re no longer

our natural world we’re no longer

our natural world we’re no longer necessarily having those long

necessarily having those long

necessarily having those long observations based in place but we’re

observations based in place but we’re

observations based in place but we’re using these technologies and our

using these technologies and our

using these technologies and our relationship with place so that we can

relationship with place so that we can

relationship with place so that we can understand what is going on in our

understand what is going on in our

understand what is going on in our environment so in conclusion I want to

environment so in conclusion I want to

environment so in conclusion I want to ask each of you to do something for the

ask each of you to do something for the

ask each of you to do something for the ocean to remember our relationship with

ocean to remember our relationship with

ocean to remember our relationship with the ocean to tell at least one other

the ocean to tell at least one other

the ocean to tell at least one other person that every other breath they take

person that every other breath they take

person that every other breath they take comes from the ocean we need to honor

comes from the ocean we need to honor

comes from the ocean we need to honor our agreements with the ocean so she can

our agreements with the ocean so she can

our agreements with the ocean so she can continue to sustain us to sustain human

continue to sustain us to sustain human

continue to sustain us to sustain human society as water is life and ocean is

society as water is life and ocean is

society as water is life and ocean is everything Wallis Gaia Sokka thank you

everything Wallis Gaia Sokka thank you

everything Wallis Gaia Sokka thank you for your time

for your time

for your time [Applause]

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