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[Applause] good afternoon
good afternoon
good afternoon gives me great pleasure to be standing
gives me great pleasure to be standing
gives me great pleasure to be standing here in front of you the theme that I
here in front of you the theme that I
here in front of you the theme that I have chosen this afternoon to talk about
have chosen this afternoon to talk about
have chosen this afternoon to talk about there’s a story about a storyteller now
there’s a story about a storyteller now
there’s a story about a storyteller now very often I meet people who look at me
very often I meet people who look at me
very often I meet people who look at me and then they are not sure where they
and then they are not sure where they
and then they are not sure where they have seen me before and they tell me I
have seen me before and they tell me I
have seen me before and they tell me I think I’ve seen you somewhere but you a
think I’ve seen you somewhere but you a
think I’ve seen you somewhere but you a judge on a you know a dance show on
judge on a you know a dance show on
judge on a you know a dance show on television over you part of a quiz show
television over you part of a quiz show
television over you part of a quiz show somewhere else etc and I tell them no
somewhere else etc and I tell them no
somewhere else etc and I tell them no but then they look at me answer and ask
but then they look at me answer and ask
but then they look at me answer and ask me but what do you do it’s at this point
me but what do you do it’s at this point
me but what do you do it’s at this point that I know the the long and short of
that I know the the long and short of
that I know the the long and short of this problem called the Gettier problem
this problem called the Gettier problem
this problem called the Gettier problem now what is that look at that okay now
now what is that look at that okay now
now what is that look at that okay now the Gettier problem is a problem that
the Gettier problem is a problem that
the Gettier problem is a problem that arises in philosophy in mathematics and
arises in philosophy in mathematics and
arises in philosophy in mathematics and in logic so you assume you see something
in logic so you assume you see something
in logic so you assume you see something and you assume it’s the truth it is the
and you assume it’s the truth it is the
and you assume it’s the truth it is the truth but the assumption is for all the
truth but the assumption is for all the
truth but the assumption is for all the wrong reasons so if you look at that
wrong reasons so if you look at that
wrong reasons so if you look at that there’s this chappie walking there he
there’s this chappie walking there he
there’s this chappie walking there he sees a rock and he thinks it’s a sheep
sees a rock and he thinks it’s a sheep
sees a rock and he thinks it’s a sheep he gets close and then he realizes that
he gets close and then he realizes that
he gets close and then he realizes that it is a rock it isn’t a sheep but then a
it is a rock it isn’t a sheep but then a
it is a rock it isn’t a sheep but then a sheep pops up from behind so was he
sheep pops up from behind so was he
sheep pops up from behind so was he right in assuming that rock was a sheep
right in assuming that rock was a sheep
right in assuming that rock was a sheep or was that a sheep in the first place
or was that a sheep in the first place
or was that a sheep in the first place so that is a Gettier problem which is
so that is a Gettier problem which is
so that is a Gettier problem which is what I face all the time and people look
what I face all the time and people look
what I face all the time and people look at me and ask me I think I know you but
at me and ask me I think I know you but
at me and ask me I think I know you but I don’t know you why and they think they
I don’t know you why and they think they
I don’t know you why and they think they know me for all the wrong reasons so at
know me for all the wrong reasons so at
know me for all the wrong reasons so at that point is when I think that maybe I
that point is when I think that maybe I
that point is when I think that maybe I should make up a story and tell them
should make up a story and tell them
should make up a story and tell them something that they would like to hear
something that they would like to hear
something that they would like to hear so tell them maybe I’m a wrestler maybe
so tell them maybe I’m a wrestler maybe
so tell them maybe I’m a wrestler maybe I’m an astronaut maybe I’m a veterinary
I’m an astronaut maybe I’m a veterinary
I’m an astronaut maybe I’m a veterinary doctor whatever but in the last minute I
doctor whatever but in the last minute I
doctor whatever but in the last minute I lose my nerve and
lose my nerve and
lose my nerve and I say I do nothing at that point there
I say I do nothing at that point there
I say I do nothing at that point there is this big thought bubble that is
is this big thought bubble that is
is this big thought bubble that is growing around their head which is no no
growing around their head which is no no
growing around their head which is no no no she’s lying she she can’t be doing
no she’s lying she she can’t be doing
no she’s lying she she can’t be doing nothing what does she really do now you
nothing what does she really do now you
nothing what does she really do now you must wonder why is it that I can’t just
must wonder why is it that I can’t just
must wonder why is it that I can’t just turn around and tell them that I’m a
turn around and tell them that I’m a
turn around and tell them that I’m a writer the reason being that a writer to
writer the reason being that a writer to
writer the reason being that a writer to me seems someone who’s very lofty and
me seems someone who’s very lofty and
me seems someone who’s very lofty and very distanced from what I actually do
very distanced from what I actually do
very distanced from what I actually do which is tell stories I’m a storyteller
which is tell stories I’m a storyteller
which is tell stories I’m a storyteller now I had thought about this title
now I had thought about this title
now I had thought about this title called a storyteller several times and
called a storyteller several times and
called a storyteller several times and asked myself who or what is a
asked myself who or what is a
asked myself who or what is a storyteller a storyteller someone who
storyteller a storyteller someone who
storyteller a storyteller someone who does more than just narrate stories a
does more than just narrate stories a
does more than just narrate stories a storyteller is someone who begins with
storyteller is someone who begins with
storyteller is someone who begins with an idea and into that mixture of
an idea and into that mixture of
an idea and into that mixture of thoughts goes a lot of things there is
thoughts goes a lot of things there is
thoughts goes a lot of things there is history there is geography there is
history there is geography there is
history there is geography there is mathematics there is physics there is
mathematics there is physics there is
mathematics there is physics there is chemistry and if you’re an atheist you
chemistry and if you’re an atheist you
chemistry and if you’re an atheist you can call it nature and if you’re a
can call it nature and if you’re a
can call it nature and if you’re a believer you can call it God all of this
believer you can call it God all of this
believer you can call it God all of this goes into what a storyteller does and
goes into what a storyteller does and
goes into what a storyteller does and then there is something else that
then there is something else that
then there is something else that happens perhaps only in the world of
happens perhaps only in the world of
happens perhaps only in the world of literature there is something called a
literature there is something called a
literature there is something called a pause now a pause is when the
pause now a pause is when the
pause now a pause is when the subconscious mind which has been
subconscious mind which has been
subconscious mind which has been gathering all this facts and information
gathering all this facts and information
gathering all this facts and information memories and observations all of it goes
memories and observations all of it goes
memories and observations all of it goes into a file and it is lit under a
into a file and it is lit under a
into a file and it is lit under a crucible called
crucible called
crucible called the imagination and this is what creates
the imagination and this is what creates
the imagination and this is what creates stories this is a very very famous quote
stories this is a very very famous quote
stories this is a very very famous quote by Nabokov the author of Lolita for
by Nabokov the author of Lolita for
by Nabokov the author of Lolita for those of you who don’t know who he is it
those of you who don’t know who he is it
those of you who don’t know who he is it says basically that having the proper
says basically that having the proper
says basically that having the proper quote is there but if you don’t want to
quote is there but if you don’t want to
quote is there but if you don’t want to read it it says that the first story was
read it it says that the first story was
read it it says that the first story was not born when a man came I mean a boy
not born when a man came I mean a boy
not born when a man came I mean a boy came out of a valley screaming
came out of a valley screaming
came out of a valley screaming wolf wolf and there was a wolf behind
wolf wolf and there was a wolf behind
wolf wolf and there was a wolf behind him the first story was born when a boy
him the first story was born when a boy
him the first story was born when a boy came out of a valley screaming wolf wolf
came out of a valley screaming wolf wolf
came out of a valley screaming wolf wolf and there was no wolf behind him so you
and there was no wolf behind him so you
and there was no wolf behind him so you see that is where a story begins there
see that is where a story begins there
see that is where a story begins there is imagination there is observation and
is imagination there is observation and
is imagination there is observation and there is reality so what I’m going to do
there is reality so what I’m going to do
there is reality so what I’m going to do this afternoon as I stand here before
this afternoon as I stand here before
this afternoon as I stand here before you is to take you through a few
you is to take you through a few
you is to take you through a few instances of how through my own life
instances of how through my own life
instances of how through my own life anecdotal examples of how stories are
anecdotal examples of how stories are
anecdotal examples of how stories are born or how my stories were born
born or how my stories were born
born or how my stories were born now serendipity is something that
now serendipity is something that
now serendipity is something that happens in each one of our lives it
happens in each one of our lives it
happens in each one of our lives it happens to as many a time what a
happens to as many a time what a
happens to as many a time what a storyteller does is to be able to
storyteller does is to be able to
storyteller does is to be able to identify serendipity and make that into
identify serendipity and make that into
identify serendipity and make that into fodder for imagination make that into
fodder for imagination make that into
fodder for imagination make that into substance for a story I come from a very
substance for a story I come from a very
substance for a story I come from a very small village in Kerala it’s called moon
small village in Kerala it’s called moon
small village in Kerala it’s called moon Dakota ku Russia it is so tiny that
Dakota ku Russia it is so tiny that
Dakota ku Russia it is so tiny that nobody knows anything about it in fact
nobody knows anything about it in fact
nobody knows anything about it in fact there is nothing that happens there if
there is nothing that happens there if
there is nothing that happens there if you see that that’s the extent of the
you see that that’s the extent of the
you see that that’s the extent of the village as of now I’m not talking about
village as of now I’m not talking about
village as of now I’m not talking about you know 10 years ago 15 years ago so
you know 10 years ago 15 years ago so
you know 10 years ago 15 years ago so the village is so tiny I like I was
the village is so tiny I like I was
the village is so tiny I like I was saying no Mahatma has been you know has
saying no Mahatma has been you know has
saying no Mahatma has been you know has ever lived there or was born there there
ever lived there or was born there there
ever lived there or was born there there is no form of you know handicrafts or
is no form of you know handicrafts or
is no form of you know handicrafts or craft forms that originated from there
craft forms that originated from there
craft forms that originated from there which make people go looking for it
which make people go looking for it
which make people go looking for it nothing of significance happens there to
nothing of significance happens there to
nothing of significance happens there to anybody except you know the natural
anybody except you know the natural
anybody except you know the natural course of life and death
course of life and death
course of life and death but what moon Dakota girl she has died
but what moon Dakota girl she has died
but what moon Dakota girl she has died and I’m very proud of that is that it
and I’m very proud of that is that it
and I’m very proud of that is that it has a wicked sense of humor and irony
has a wicked sense of humor and irony
has a wicked sense of humor and irony we don’t have an ATM we don’t have a
we don’t have an ATM we don’t have a
we don’t have an ATM we don’t have a movie theater but we have a Cricket Club
movie theater but we have a Cricket Club
movie theater but we have a Cricket Club which is called MCC which is a joke on
which is called MCC which is a joke on
which is called MCC which is a joke on you know the Marilyn bond Cricket Club
you know the Marilyn bond Cricket Club
you know the Marilyn bond Cricket Club and it is one dakota gursha Cricket Club
and it is one dakota gursha Cricket Club
and it is one dakota gursha Cricket Club we have something like five shops like
we have something like five shops like
we have something like five shops like what you see there but we still call
what you see there but we still call
what you see there but we still call ourselves the city
ourselves the city
ourselves the city in 1984 when the first bus began flying
in 1984 when the first bus began flying
in 1984 when the first bus began flying between the nearest town Shore node and
between the nearest town Shore node and
between the nearest town Shore node and moon Dakota cursive and you know the bus
moon Dakota cursive and you know the bus
moon Dakota cursive and you know the bus came they were still designating bus
came they were still designating bus
came they were still designating bus stands and deciding what to call it so
stands and deciding what to call it so
stands and deciding what to call it so they came to this point where there were
they came to this point where there were
they came to this point where there were four shots
four shots
four shots the conductor stopped and they looked
the conductor stopped and they looked
the conductor stopped and they looked around and they said let’s call this one
around and they said let’s call this one
around and they said let’s call this one Dakota or she City and so it became
Dakota or she City and so it became
Dakota or she City and so it became under category City the politics and
under category City the politics and
under category City the politics and this village is very interesting it’s
this village is very interesting it’s
this village is very interesting it’s just in the 1950s it was a stronghold
just in the 1950s it was a stronghold
just in the 1950s it was a stronghold for communist activity and so they
for communist activity and so they
for communist activity and so they started calling this village also Moscow
started calling this village also Moscow
started calling this village also Moscow but in now in recent times you have a
but in now in recent times you have a
but in now in recent times you have a strong presence of Congress you have a
strong presence of Congress you have a
strong presence of Congress you have a strong presence of the BJP
strong presence of the BJP
strong presence of the BJP you have the Muslim League and you have
you have the Muslim League and you have
you have the Muslim League and you have the Communist Party because of which
the Communist Party because of which
the Communist Party because of which every election time is like a game of
every election time is like a game of
every election time is like a game of Russian roulette you don’t know who’s
Russian roulette you don’t know who’s
Russian roulette you don’t know who’s going to win and by what margin my
going to win and by what margin my
going to win and by what margin my family goes back there by four hundred
family goes back there by four hundred
family goes back there by four hundred and sixty years at least and my parents
and sixty years at least and my parents
and sixty years at least and my parents when they retired from service moved
when they retired from service moved
when they retired from service moved back to the village that was our
back to the village that was our
back to the village that was our ancestral village in true South Indian
ancestral village in true South Indian
ancestral village in true South Indian tradition my parents are related and so
tradition my parents are related and so
tradition my parents are related and so they decided to go back and once they
they decided to go back and once they
they decided to go back and once they were there you know it took them after
were there you know it took them after
were there you know it took them after six years they still couldn’t break into
six years they still couldn’t break into
six years they still couldn’t break into this community you know a village is so
this community you know a village is so
this community you know a village is so tight I mean everywhere we like to
tight I mean everywhere we like to
tight I mean everywhere we like to believe of villages as this bucolic
believe of villages as this bucolic
believe of villages as this bucolic idyllic places but they can be the most
idyllic places but they can be the most
idyllic places but they can be the most closed community most sanctimonious kind
closed community most sanctimonious kind
closed community most sanctimonious kind of people so after about 6 years my
of people so after about 6 years my
of people so after about 6 years my parents were sick and tired of it and
parents were sick and tired of it and
parents were sick and tired of it and they said they were going to leave and
they said they were going to leave and
they said they were going to leave and they decided they were going to sell the
they decided they were going to sell the
they decided they were going to sell the property I was heartbroken because I’ve
property I was heartbroken because I’ve
property I was heartbroken because I’ve always felt this great connection to
always felt this great connection to
always felt this great connection to this place so I thought I was going to
this place so I thought I was going to
this place so I thought I was going to chronicle this village for my son so at
chronicle this village for my son so at
chronicle this village for my son so at a point in life when he would turn
a point in life when he would turn
a point in life when he would turn around and ask me where did we come from
around and ask me where did we come from
around and ask me where did we come from I would just give him this book and say
I would just give him this book and say
I would just give him this book and say here this is our history I started
here this is our history I started
here this is our history I started writing one chapter down I suddenly
writing one chapter down I suddenly
writing one chapter down I suddenly stopped and I said what am i doing
stopped and I said what am i doing
stopped and I said what am i doing chronicling a village this is the
chronicling a village this is the
chronicling a village this is the material for my first
material for my first
material for my first this is what I’m going to be writing
this is what I’m going to be writing
this is what I’m going to be writing about how little villages are simply a
about how little villages are simply a
about how little villages are simply a microcosm of the entire universe that we
microcosm of the entire universe that we
microcosm of the entire universe that we live in everything that you can see in
live in everything that you can see in
live in everything that you can see in the world around you you can see in a
the world around you you can see in a
the world around you you can see in a little village we just don’t want to be
little village we just don’t want to be
little village we just don’t want to be you know we don’t fear and denial most
you know we don’t fear and denial most
you know we don’t fear and denial most of the time not wanting to accept it and
of the time not wanting to accept it and
of the time not wanting to accept it and so my first novel the better man was
so my first novel the better man was
so my first novel the better man was born I published my first two novels I
born I published my first two novels I
born I published my first two novels I had a certain you know element of Fame
had a certain you know element of Fame
had a certain you know element of Fame and celebrity Dom etcetera I was being
and celebrity Dom etcetera I was being
and celebrity Dom etcetera I was being constantly invited for dinner parties
constantly invited for dinner parties
constantly invited for dinner parties where I would be lionized I was invited
where I would be lionized I was invited
where I would be lionized I was invited for speaking engagements I was invited
for speaking engagements I was invited
for speaking engagements I was invited for you know various kinds of things I
for you know various kinds of things I
for you know various kinds of things I was going on world to us for my books
was going on world to us for my books
was going on world to us for my books and stuff like that and at some point in
and stuff like that and at some point in
and stuff like that and at some point in my life I took a step back and asked
my life I took a step back and asked
my life I took a step back and asked myself is this artistic success all this
myself is this artistic success all this
myself is this artistic success all this Fame whatever you know being lionized
Fame whatever you know being lionized
Fame whatever you know being lionized having giving out interviews whatever
having giving out interviews whatever
having giving out interviews whatever awards whatever you win is this truly a
awards whatever you win is this truly a
awards whatever you win is this truly a measure of artistic success or is
measure of artistic success or is
measure of artistic success or is artistic success something that an
artistic success something that an
artistic success something that an artist himself or herself understands
artist himself or herself understands
artist himself or herself understands when you know that you’ve raised the bar
when you know that you’ve raised the bar
when you know that you’ve raised the bar for yourself
for yourself
for yourself you’ve pushed yourself out of your
you’ve pushed yourself out of your
you’ve pushed yourself out of your comfort zone and that you have made a
comfort zone and that you have made a
comfort zone and that you have made a certain impact not just on the world
certain impact not just on the world
certain impact not just on the world around you but within yourself so this
around you but within yourself so this
around you but within yourself so this was a question that was troubling me it
was a question that was troubling me it
was a question that was troubling me it was a it was a huge kind of you know
was a it was a huge kind of you know
was a it was a huge kind of you know thing that sat on my head all the time I
thing that sat on my head all the time I
thing that sat on my head all the time I was reeling my work and asking myself
was reeling my work and asking myself
was reeling my work and asking myself what am i doing am I going to play to
what am i doing am I going to play to
what am i doing am I going to play to the gallery and just keep writing the
the gallery and just keep writing the
the gallery and just keep writing the same kind of things that have got me
same kind of things that have got me
same kind of things that have got me success or am I going to push the
success or am I going to push the
success or am I going to push the barrier higher okay so then I remembered
barrier higher okay so then I remembered
barrier higher okay so then I remembered something very significant that had
something very significant that had
something very significant that had happened in my life I was working in
happened in my life I was working in
happened in my life I was working in advertising and one day I walking into
advertising and one day I walking into
advertising and one day I walking into work and it so it was a little agency so
work and it so it was a little agency so
work and it so it was a little agency so it you know steps go up and so on I
it you know steps go up and so on I
it you know steps go up and so on I climb up the steps
climb up the steps
climb up the steps and go there and in the reception is a
and go there and in the reception is a
and go there and in the reception is a kadhai Kelly dancer
kadhai Kelly dancer
kadhai Kelly dancer for those of you who haven’t seen what
for those of you who haven’t seen what
for those of you who haven’t seen what Okada Kelly dances look at the costume
Okada Kelly dances look at the costume
Okada Kelly dances look at the costume on the right the one with the crown
on the right the one with the crown
on the right the one with the crown there he is standing in full costume in
there he is standing in full costume in
there he is standing in full costume in the middle of the reception so the
the middle of the reception so the
the middle of the reception so the reception must be not even as large as
reception must be not even as large as
reception must be not even as large as the dice that I’m standing on he’s
the dice that I’m standing on he’s
the dice that I’m standing on he’s standing there and he’s doing mudra as
standing there and he’s doing mudra as
standing there and he’s doing mudra as he’s doing this he’s doing this and
he’s doing this he’s doing this and
he’s doing this he’s doing this and everything and there the rest of my
everything and there the rest of my
everything and there the rest of my colleagues are standing there and there
colleagues are standing there and there
colleagues are standing there and there were sniggers they were giggles because
were sniggers they were giggles because
were sniggers they were giggles because to them he was just a kind of strange
to them he was just a kind of strange
to them he was just a kind of strange figure of ridicule who had appeared one
figure of ridicule who had appeared one
figure of ridicule who had appeared one morning in the office reception and then
morning in the office reception and then
morning in the office reception and then I saw him you know hold his costume like
I saw him you know hold his costume like
I saw him you know hold his costume like this go down the stairs they put him up
this go down the stairs they put him up
this go down the stairs they put him up into the back of a pickup truck
into the back of a pickup truck
into the back of a pickup truck and they took him away I went back into
and they took him away I went back into
and they took him away I went back into the office and I said what was going on
the office and I said what was going on
the office and I said what was going on so they said oh you know so by the way I
so they said oh you know so by the way I
so they said oh you know so by the way I live in Bangalore so they said this he
live in Bangalore so they said this he
live in Bangalore so they said this he was being brought here as a gimmick as a
was being brought here as a gimmick as a
was being brought here as a gimmick as a living walking talking rate card for an
living walking talking rate card for an
living walking talking rate card for an up country publication now for those of
up country publication now for those of
up country publication now for those of you who don’t know what a rate card is
you who don’t know what a rate card is
you who don’t know what a rate card is it is something that publications
it is something that publications
it is something that publications periodicals newspapers we are talking
periodicals newspapers we are talking
periodicals newspapers we are talking pre-internet period would hand out to
pre-internet period would hand out to
pre-internet period would hand out to various advertising agencies saying that
various advertising agencies saying that
various advertising agencies saying that you know if you were to do a quarter
you know if you were to do a quarter
you know if you were to do a quarter page advertisement this is what it will
page advertisement this is what it will
page advertisement this is what it will cost you in black and white this is what
cost you in black and white this is what
cost you in black and white this is what it will cost you in Carlow etc so there
it will cost you in Carlow etc so there
it will cost you in Carlow etc so there are different kinds of rates so since
are different kinds of rates so since
are different kinds of rates so since there were so many publications in those
there were so many publications in those
there were so many publications in those days they needed to do something
days they needed to do something
days they needed to do something gimmicky to catch the attention of the
gimmicky to catch the attention of the
gimmicky to catch the attention of the media planner in the advertising agency
media planner in the advertising agency
media planner in the advertising agency and this man who had probably put in
and this man who had probably put in
and this man who had probably put in nine years of work because before you
nine years of work because before you
nine years of work because before you actually get onto a stage you have to go
actually get onto a stage you have to go
actually get onto a stage you have to go through a nine year intense routine of
through a nine year intense routine of
through a nine year intense routine of learning was suddenly reduced to being a
learning was suddenly reduced to being a
learning was suddenly reduced to being a prop and you see this all the time you
prop and you see this all the time you
prop and you see this all the time you see a car the Kali dancer being used as
see a car the Kali dancer being used as
see a car the Kali dancer being used as a prop
a prop
a prop detergent commercials sometimes he’s
detergent commercials sometimes he’s
detergent commercials sometimes he’s used as a you know as a background
used as a you know as a background
used as a you know as a background dancer
dancer
dancer you know in a movie song sometimes you
you know in a movie song sometimes you
you know in a movie song sometimes you see four or five of them standing there
see four or five of them standing there
see four or five of them standing there and racing their legs like chorus
and racing their legs like chorus
and racing their legs like chorus dancers and some is something in me died
dancers and some is something in me died
dancers and some is something in me died at that thought that here is a person
at that thought that here is a person
at that thought that here is a person who has put in so much and I wouldn’t
who has put in so much and I wouldn’t
who has put in so much and I wouldn’t blame him because he has absolutely no
blame him because he has absolutely no
blame him because he has absolutely no you know placed you stand there and to
you know placed you stand there and to
you know placed you stand there and to do perform his art because fewer and
do perform his art because fewer and
do perform his art because fewer and fewer people are watching critically and
fewer people are watching critically and
fewer people are watching critically and he has to take what he has to but I was
he has to take what he has to but I was
he has to take what he has to but I was thinking about the world we live in
thinking about the world we live in
thinking about the world we live in which red uses art to nothing and so
which red uses art to nothing and so
which red uses art to nothing and so what are the basic tenets of Kathakali
what are the basic tenets of Kathakali
what are the basic tenets of Kathakali for instance is that a minute on the
for instance is that a minute on the
for instance is that a minute on the stage
stage
stage demands hundred hours of practice and
demands hundred hours of practice and
demands hundred hours of practice and generally acadec early performance can
generally acadec early performance can
generally acadec early performance can stretch as long as five hours so just
stretch as long as five hours so just
stretch as long as five hours so just imagine the amount of work he would have
imagine the amount of work he would have
imagine the amount of work he would have had to put in and he has absolutely no
had to put in and he has absolutely no
had to put in and he has absolutely no opportunity to perform at that point I
opportunity to perform at that point I
opportunity to perform at that point I knew that I wanted to write a book
knew that I wanted to write a book
knew that I wanted to write a book exploring the concept of artistic
exploring the concept of artistic
exploring the concept of artistic success I have no answers I had no
success I have no answers I had no
success I have no answers I had no answers I still don’t have a clear-cut
answers I still don’t have a clear-cut
answers I still don’t have a clear-cut answer but at least I was able to arrive
answer but at least I was able to arrive
answer but at least I was able to arrive at a certain understanding that for me
at a certain understanding that for me
at a certain understanding that for me it might be different for every other
it might be different for every other
it might be different for every other artist in the world but for me artistic
artist in the world but for me artistic
artist in the world but for me artistic success is basically about pushing the
success is basically about pushing the
success is basically about pushing the barrier about taking it to the next
barrier about taking it to the next
barrier about taking it to the next level to be able to tell myself at the
level to be able to tell myself at the
level to be able to tell myself at the end of it all that this was worth it
end of it all that this was worth it
end of it all that this was worth it because if you look at it what is the
because if you look at it what is the
because if you look at it what is the meaning or significance of art in
meaning or significance of art in
meaning or significance of art in everyday life if you look at it it’s
everyday life if you look at it it’s
everyday life if you look at it it’s just a piece of art that you hang on a
just a piece of art that you hang on a
just a piece of art that you hang on a wall it’s a probably a piece of music
wall it’s a probably a piece of music
wall it’s a probably a piece of music that you listen to when you’re climbing
that you listen to when you’re climbing
that you listen to when you’re climbing I mean when you’re in an elevator or in
I mean when you’re in an elevator or in
I mean when you’re in an elevator or in your dentist reception area
your dentist reception area
your dentist reception area it is probably a book you read and then
it is probably a book you read and then
it is probably a book you read and then leave behind and never look at again but
leave behind and never look at again but
leave behind and never look at again but somebody somewhere has been sitting and
somebody somewhere has been sitting and
somebody somewhere has been sitting and working on it and toiling endlessly on
working on it and toiling endlessly on
working on it and toiling endlessly on it and for what joy as some other
it and for what joy as some other
it and for what joy as some other speakers have said before and yesterday
speakers have said before and yesterday
speakers have said before and yesterday I was having dinner with my publisher
I was having dinner with my publisher
I was having dinner with my publisher and she was telling me about a cricketer
and she was telling me about a cricketer
and she was telling me about a cricketer who’s writing his biography and
who’s writing his biography and
who’s writing his biography and once the the economics of it was
once the the economics of it was
once the the economics of it was explained to him he turned around and
explained to him he turned around and
explained to him he turned around and said why do writers write there is no
said why do writers write there is no
said why do writers write there is no money in it writers write because we
money in it writers write because we
money in it writers write because we can’t help ourselves we have to write so
can’t help ourselves we have to write so
can’t help ourselves we have to write so every artist creates because they can’t
every artist creates because they can’t
every artist creates because they can’t help it they need to create so yes there
help it they need to create so yes there
help it they need to create so yes there are serendipity
are serendipity
are serendipity there is self-examination but there is
there is self-examination but there is
there is self-examination but there is one other thing that as a storyteller I
one other thing that as a storyteller I
one other thing that as a storyteller I need to be able to create my stories I
need to be able to create my stories I
need to be able to create my stories I cannot live within this ivory tower of
cannot live within this ivory tower of
cannot live within this ivory tower of my own existential angst and you know
my own existential angst and you know
my own existential angst and you know tell myself this is what I’m going to be
tell myself this is what I’m going to be
tell myself this is what I’m going to be writing about so I sometimes it happens
writing about so I sometimes it happens
writing about so I sometimes it happens and then I should know when to do it so
and then I should know when to do it so
and then I should know when to do it so September 21st of September 2013 I was
September 21st of September 2013 I was
September 21st of September 2013 I was working and then there was a news alert
working and then there was a news alert
working and then there was a news alert saying that there was this shooting that
saying that there was this shooting that
saying that there was this shooting that happened in the Westgate Mall in Nairobi
happened in the Westgate Mall in Nairobi
happened in the Westgate Mall in Nairobi friends of mine very close friends of
friends of mine very close friends of
friends of mine very close friends of mine live in Nairobi and every Saturday
mine live in Nairobi and every Saturday
mine live in Nairobi and every Saturday morning they would go to the mall and I
morning they would go to the mall and I
morning they would go to the mall and I was petrified I was wondering what
was petrified I was wondering what
was petrified I was wondering what happened and I you know managed to get
happened and I you know managed to get
happened and I you know managed to get through to them and realize they were
through to them and realize they were
through to them and realize they were safe I went back to my writing but later
safe I went back to my writing but later
safe I went back to my writing but later in the day as the news alerts were kind
in the day as the news alerts were kind
in the day as the news alerts were kind of coming in I realized that there was
of coming in I realized that there was
of coming in I realized that there was something else there that you know it
something else there that you know it
something else there that you know it had been a shoot out by an Islamic group
had been a shoot out by an Islamic group
had been a shoot out by an Islamic group and they had segregated the group into
and they had segregated the group into
and they had segregated the group into two sets of audiences I mean two sets of
two sets of audiences I mean two sets of
two sets of audiences I mean two sets of people they said that Muslims and the
people they said that Muslims and the
people they said that Muslims and the non-muslims the Muslims were allowed to
non-muslims the Muslims were allowed to
non-muslims the Muslims were allowed to go they turned around and they
go they turned around and they
go they turned around and they apparently asked everybody to make sure
apparently asked everybody to make sure
apparently asked everybody to make sure that they were Muslims one of the things
that they were Muslims one of the things
that they were Muslims one of the things that they did was to ask them the name
that they did was to ask them the name
that they did was to ask them the name of the prophet’s mother now I have been
of the prophet’s mother now I have been
of the prophet’s mother now I have been to several schools here in India and one
to several schools here in India and one
to several schools here in India and one of the things that I realize all the
of the things that I realize all the
of the things that I realize all the time is that I asked the children there
time is that I asked the children there
time is that I asked the children there tell me what is the name of the
tell me what is the name of the
tell me what is the name of the monkey-god children pipe up and say
monkey-god children pipe up and say
monkey-god children pipe up and say Hanuman what was Rama’s sister I mean
Hanuman what was Rama’s sister I mean
Hanuman what was Rama’s sister I mean Rama’s wife called Sita comes up
Rama’s wife called Sita comes up
Rama’s wife called Sita comes up immediately I turn around and ask them
immediately I turn around and ask them
immediately I turn around and ask them what was Jesus’s mother
what was Jesus’s mother
what was Jesus’s mother called Mary how did Jesus die he was
called Mary how did Jesus die he was
called Mary how did Jesus die he was nailed on a cross then I asked him what
nailed on a cross then I asked him what
nailed on a cross then I asked him what is the name of the prophets mother blank
is the name of the prophets mother blank
is the name of the prophets mother blank absolute silence and at that point there
absolute silence and at that point there
absolute silence and at that point there was this writer in me again the
was this writer in me again the
was this writer in me again the storyteller in me who said there is a
storyteller in me who said there is a
storyteller in me who said there is a lacuna that needs to be filled and I am
lacuna that needs to be filled and I am
lacuna that needs to be filled and I am going to try and fill it and the thing
going to try and fill it and the thing
going to try and fill it and the thing was the Quran has always been seen as a
was the Quran has always been seen as a
was the Quran has always been seen as a book that people don’t want to talk
book that people don’t want to talk
book that people don’t want to talk about now I’m not an expert on Islamic
about now I’m not an expert on Islamic
about now I’m not an expert on Islamic Studies but I do like everybody else
Studies but I do like everybody else
Studies but I do like everybody else like reading parables and you do see
like reading parables and you do see
like reading parables and you do see parables in all books so I thought what
parables in all books so I thought what
parables in all books so I thought what I would do was look at the Islamic law
I would do was look at the Islamic law
I would do was look at the Islamic law and work out a book which would allow
and work out a book which would allow
and work out a book which would allow children and people several of us here
children and people several of us here
children and people several of us here in this room who do not know anything
in this room who do not know anything
in this room who do not know anything about what are the contents of the Quran
about what are the contents of the Quran
about what are the contents of the Quran understand some things some elements so
understand some things some elements so
understand some things some elements so that we know that there is absolutely
that we know that there is absolutely
that we know that there is absolutely nothing that preaches violence and
nothing that preaches violence and
nothing that preaches violence and hatred in the Quran just like any other
hatred in the Quran just like any other
hatred in the Quran just like any other tenet of any other religion whether it
tenet of any other religion whether it
tenet of any other religion whether it is Judaism or Buddhism Hinduism
is Judaism or Buddhism Hinduism
is Judaism or Buddhism Hinduism Christianity whatever the Quran – is a
Christianity whatever the Quran – is a
Christianity whatever the Quran – is a book that preaches peace and love and so
book that preaches peace and love and so
book that preaches peace and love and so was born my children’s book called Musa
was born my children’s book called Musa
was born my children’s book called Musa and baby John stories from the Quran at
and baby John stories from the Quran at
and baby John stories from the Quran at the end of it all when I look back and I
the end of it all when I look back and I
the end of it all when I look back and I asked myself why do I write I just have
asked myself why do I write I just have
asked myself why do I write I just have one reason why I write to lead from
one reason why I write to lead from
one reason why I write to lead from ignorance to the beginnings of knowledge
ignorance to the beginnings of knowledge
ignorance to the beginnings of knowledge from prejudice to a better understanding
from prejudice to a better understanding
from prejudice to a better understanding and to reaffirm in these times wreaked
and to reaffirm in these times wreaked
and to reaffirm in these times wreaked with discrimination and terror that
with discrimination and terror that
with discrimination and terror that there is still hope that we need to be
there is still hope that we need to be
there is still hope that we need to be as much humane as we are human nothing
as much humane as we are human nothing
as much humane as we are human nothing else matters nothing else is of
else matters nothing else is of
else matters nothing else is of consequence thank you
consequence thank you
consequence thank you you
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