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Seeking the Truth in Human Trafficking (and other things, too) | John Vanek | TEDxCarsonCity


[Applause]

[Applause] hello doesn’t it seem like our world

hello doesn’t it seem like our world

hello doesn’t it seem like our world gets more and more complex every day it

gets more and more complex every day it

gets more and more complex every day it seems like every day we are bombarded

seems like every day we are bombarded

seems like every day we are bombarded with these issues that impact our world

with these issues that impact our world

with these issues that impact our world or our nation or our community many of

or our nation or our community many of

or our nation or our community many of them can be very challenging to

them can be very challenging to

them can be very challenging to understand sometimes they can even seem

understand sometimes they can even seem

understand sometimes they can even seem overwhelming

overwhelming

overwhelming now when life gets overwhelming it can

now when life gets overwhelming it can

now when life gets overwhelming it can make sense to try and simplify things

make sense to try and simplify things

make sense to try and simplify things but when we try and simplify complex

but when we try and simplify complex

but when we try and simplify complex topics that can lead to over

topics that can lead to over

topics that can lead to over simplification oversimplification has

simplification oversimplification has

simplification oversimplification has brought us to a world where today much

brought us to a world where today much

brought us to a world where today much of what we take in as knowledge or even

of what we take in as knowledge or even

of what we take in as knowledge or even worse what we pass on as knowledge comes

worse what we pass on as knowledge comes

worse what we pass on as knowledge comes from sound bites that we hear on radio

from sound bites that we hear on radio

from sound bites that we hear on radio or TV or from Facebook posts from tweets

or TV or from Facebook posts from tweets

or TV or from Facebook posts from tweets limited to 140 characters or from catchy

limited to 140 characters or from catchy

limited to 140 characters or from catchy slogans that are designed to tell us

slogans that are designed to tell us

slogans that are designed to tell us what to think but not why we should

what to think but not why we should

what to think but not why we should think that way or even if it’s true

Albert Einstein was a man who knew a lot

Albert Einstein was a man who knew a lot about a lot of complex things right and

about a lot of complex things right and

about a lot of complex things right and his Albert Einstein who reminded us to

his Albert Einstein who reminded us to

his Albert Einstein who reminded us to make everything as simple as possible

make everything as simple as possible

make everything as simple as possible but no simpler you see if we really want

but no simpler you see if we really want

but no simpler you see if we really want to understand the pressing issues of our

to understand the pressing issues of our

to understand the pressing issues of our day we must be willing to embrace their

day we must be willing to embrace their

day we must be willing to embrace their complexities let me give you an example

complexities let me give you an example

complexities let me give you an example in the response to human trafficking

in the response to human trafficking

in the response to human trafficking it’s quite common that we see these big

it’s quite common that we see these big

it’s quite common that we see these big numbers about how many people are

numbers about how many people are

numbers about how many people are enslaved in our world you may have seen

enslaved in our world you may have seen

enslaved in our world you may have seen some of these numbers before for many

some of these numbers before for many

some of these numbers before for many years the most commonly quoted estimate

years the most commonly quoted estimate

years the most commonly quoted estimate was 21 million people this estimate was

was 21 million people this estimate was

was 21 million people this estimate was released several years ago by the

released several years ago by the

released several years ago by the International Labour Organization they

International Labour Organization they

International Labour Organization they are an agency of the United Nations but

are an agency of the United Nations but

are an agency of the United Nations but then a couple of years ago a private

then a couple of years ago a private

then a couple of years ago a private organization called the walk free

organization called the walk free

organization called the walk free foundation released what they call their

foundation released what they call their

foundation released what they call their global slavery index and they said the

global slavery index and they said the

global slavery index and they said the number was much higher as high as 46

number was much higher as high as 46

number was much higher as high as 46 million people enslaved but just last

million people enslaved but just last

million people enslaved but just last month the International Labour

month the International Labour

month the International Labour Organization in partnership with walk

Organization in partnership with walk

Organization in partnership with walk free issued a brand new estimate they’ve

free issued a brand new estimate they’ve

free issued a brand new estimate they’ve adjusted the number downward a little

adjusted the number downward a little

adjusted the number downward a little bit now estimating that 40 million

bit now estimating that 40 million

bit now estimating that 40 million people in our world are enslaved 40

people in our world are enslaved 40

people in our world are enslaved 40 million women men and children either

million women men and children either

million women men and children either enslaved or in what we call slave-like

enslaved or in what we call slave-like

enslaved or in what we call slave-like conditions now I have to ask you what

conditions now I have to ask you what

conditions now I have to ask you what does 40 million people even look like I

does 40 million people even look like I

does 40 million people even look like I have a very difficult time trying to

have a very difficult time trying to

have a very difficult time trying to comprehend how massive a number that is

comprehend how massive a number that is

comprehend how massive a number that is if I try to make sense of it just just

if I try to make sense of it just just

if I try to make sense of it just just for my own use and I try to come up with

for my own use and I try to come up with

for my own use and I try to come up with some sort of analogy the best that I’ve

some sort of analogy the best that I’ve

some sort of analogy the best that I’ve been able to come up with and admittedly

been able to come up with and admittedly

been able to come up with and admittedly it’s not very good as I look at the

it’s not very good as I look at the

it’s not very good as I look at the entire state of California and realized

entire state of California and realized

entire state of California and realized that the population is roughly 40

that the population is roughly 40

that the population is roughly 40 million people if we’re curious about

million people if we’re curious about

million people if we’re curious about how many victims exist only in the

how many victims exist only in the

how many victims exist only in the United States there’s even more

United States there’s even more

United States there’s even more confusion the walk free foundation they

confusion the walk free foundation they

confusion the walk free foundation they estimated that there were about 57,000

estimated that there were about 57,000

estimated that there were about 57,000 victims in the United States but earlier

victims in the United States but earlier

victims in the United States but earlier this year the University of Texas at

this year the University of Texas at

this year the University of Texas at Austin they released their report

Austin they released their report

Austin they released their report examining human trafficking only in the

examining human trafficking only in the

examining human trafficking only in the state of Texas and they believed that in

state of Texas and they believed that in

state of Texas and they believed that in Texas alone there may be as many as

Texas alone there may be as many as

Texas alone there may be as many as three hundred and thirteen thousand

three hundred and thirteen thousand

three hundred and thirteen thousand victims of trafficking you see the

victims of trafficking you see the

victims of trafficking you see the numbers are all over the place the fact

numbers are all over the place the fact

numbers are all over the place the fact is is that we just don’t know yet we

is is that we just don’t know yet we

is is that we just don’t know yet we like to take these numbers without any

like to take these numbers without any

like to take these numbers without any other information or context and push

other information or context and push

other information or context and push them out to try and inspire people to

them out to try and inspire people to

them out to try and inspire people to respond against human trafficking do you

respond against human trafficking do you

respond against human trafficking do you think it works I don’t think so and

think it works I don’t think so and

think it works I don’t think so and there’s also some other problems with

there’s also some other problems with

there’s also some other problems with these numbers the first is that we have

these numbers the first is that we have

these numbers the first is that we have to realize is that they are broad

to realize is that they are broad

to realize is that they are broad estimates at best

estimates at best

estimates at best there are extrapolations based on very

there are extrapolations based on very

there are extrapolations based on very limited data one of the real problems we

limited data one of the real problems we

limited data one of the real problems we have in the response to trafficking is

have in the response to trafficking is

have in the response to trafficking is that we lack centralized protocols and

that we lack centralized protocols and

that we lack centralized protocols and mechanisms when we can report when we

mechanisms when we can report when we

mechanisms when we can report when we find an actual victim of human

find an actual victim of human

find an actual victim of human trafficking or we arrest an actual

trafficking or we arrest an actual

trafficking or we arrest an actual trafficker or we take that trafficker to

trafficker or we take that trafficker to

trafficker or we take that trafficker to court and prosecute them hopefully

court and prosecute them hopefully

court and prosecute them hopefully convicting them on actual human

convicting them on actual human

convicting them on actual human trafficking charges these mechanisms do

trafficking charges these mechanisms do

trafficking charges these mechanisms do not exist in the United States nor do

not exist in the United States nor do

not exist in the United States nor do they exist globally the second problem

they exist globally the second problem

they exist globally the second problem with these numbers is they don’t tell us

with these numbers is they don’t tell us

with these numbers is they don’t tell us that there’s actually a segment of the

that there’s actually a segment of the

that there’s actually a segment of the population that believe these numbers

population that believe these numbers

population that believe these numbers are vastly overinflated and that we have

are vastly overinflated and that we have

are vastly overinflated and that we have all been spending way too much time

all been spending way too much time

all been spending way too much time energy passion and money in the response

energy passion and money in the response

energy passion and money in the response to this problem but from where I stand

to this problem but from where I stand

to this problem but from where I stand the biggest problem with these numbers

the biggest problem with these numbers

the biggest problem with these numbers is they don’t tell us anything about

is they don’t tell us anything about

is they don’t tell us anything about human trafficking they don’t even tell

human trafficking they don’t even tell

human trafficking they don’t even tell us what it is human trafficking or

us what it is human trafficking or

us what it is human trafficking or modern slavery is defined as taking a

modern slavery is defined as taking a

modern slavery is defined as taking a person and then exploiting their labor

person and then exploiting their labor

person and then exploiting their labor or some other services they can perform

or some other services they can perform

or some other services they can perform or exploiting them through the

or exploiting them through the

or exploiting them through the commercial sex trade through the use of

commercial sex trade through the use of

commercial sex trade through the use of force or fraud or coercion force fraud

force or fraud or coercion force fraud

force or fraud or coercion force fraud or coercion now force I think is a

or coercion now force I think is a

or coercion now force I think is a pretty simple concept we can all

pretty simple concept we can all

pretty simple concept we can all understand we can all appreciate how the

understand we can all appreciate how the

understand we can all appreciate how the threat of force or the actual use of

threat of force or the actual use of

threat of force or the actual use of force might compel us to do something we

force might compel us to do something we

force might compel us to do something we would not otherwise normally do fraud is

would not otherwise normally do fraud is

would not otherwise normally do fraud is also fairly simple to understand because

also fairly simple to understand because

also fairly simple to understand because in the context of human trafficking

in the context of human trafficking

in the context of human trafficking fraud typically speaks to a financial

fraud typically speaks to a financial

fraud typically speaks to a financial arrangement between the trafficker and

arrangement between the trafficker and

arrangement between the trafficker and their victim it’s quite common to find

their victim it’s quite common to find

their victim it’s quite common to find situations where the trafficker loans

situations where the trafficker loans

situations where the trafficker loans money to the victim and then expects the

money to the victim and then expects the

money to the victim and then expects the victim to repay that debt through their

victim to repay that debt through their

victim to repay that debt through their labor but the trafficker has created a

labor but the trafficker has created a

labor but the trafficker has created a financial scheme an illegal

financial scheme an illegal

financial scheme an illegal scheme in which the victim may never be

scheme in which the victim may never be

scheme in which the victim may never be able to repay that money in some extreme

able to repay that money in some extreme

able to repay that money in some extreme cases that debt can be passed on to the

cases that debt can be passed on to the

cases that debt can be passed on to the next generation and even the next it can

next generation and even the next it can

next generation and even the next it can go on forever but coercion coercion is a

go on forever but coercion coercion is a

go on forever but coercion coercion is a more complex concept because coercion

more complex concept because coercion

more complex concept because coercion speaks to the victims state of mind

speaks to the victims state of mind

speaks to the victims state of mind what’s the victim thinking it’s

what’s the victim thinking it’s

what’s the victim thinking it’s important that we realize that in modern

important that we realize that in modern

important that we realize that in modern slavery very few victims are held

slavery very few victims are held

slavery very few victims are held against their will physically they are

against their will physically they are

against their will physically they are not tied up or in Chains they’re not

not tied up or in Chains they’re not

not tied up or in Chains they’re not blocked behind fences with barbed wire

blocked behind fences with barbed wire

blocked behind fences with barbed wire they are walking freely amongst us they

they are walking freely amongst us they

they are walking freely amongst us they stay in their situation of exploitation

stay in their situation of exploitation

stay in their situation of exploitation because of the powerful coercive control

because of the powerful coercive control

because of the powerful coercive control held by their trafficker they stay in

held by their trafficker they stay in

held by their trafficker they stay in situations that you are I would

situations that you are I would

situations that you are I would absolutely flee I only have time to give

absolutely flee I only have time to give

absolutely flee I only have time to give you one example of coercion but it’s a

you one example of coercion but it’s a

you one example of coercion but it’s a very powerful example and it’s also a

very powerful example and it’s also a

very powerful example and it’s also a very common example particularly in that

very common example particularly in that

very common example particularly in that sector of the human of human trafficking

sector of the human of human trafficking

sector of the human of human trafficking that that’s the commercial sex trade a

that that’s the commercial sex trade a

that that’s the commercial sex trade a trafficker will tell their victim that

trafficker will tell their victim that

trafficker will tell their victim that they love them they love and they will

they love them they love and they will

they love them they love and they will also tell their victim if you love me in

also tell their victim if you love me in

also tell their victim if you love me in return tonight you will go out and you

return tonight you will go out and you

return tonight you will go out and you will have sex with as many people as you

will have sex with as many people as you

will have sex with as many people as you can for money and you will bring me back

can for money and you will bring me back

can for money and you will bring me back that money so then I can provide us with

that money so then I can provide us with

that money so then I can provide us with a warm place to sleep and food to eat

a warm place to sleep and food to eat

a warm place to sleep and food to eat now this isn’t love it’s a perversion of

now this isn’t love it’s a perversion of

now this isn’t love it’s a perversion of the concept of love but we have to

the concept of love but we have to

the concept of love but we have to understand that this victim may have

understand that this victim may have

understand that this victim may have never ever known true love in their

never ever known true love in their

never ever known true love in their entire life they may have never known

entire life they may have never known

entire life they may have never known true caring and compassion and as a

true caring and compassion and as a

true caring and compassion and as a result they are deathly afraid of losing

result they are deathly afraid of losing

result they are deathly afraid of losing the love of their trafficker so as a

the love of their trafficker so as a

the love of their trafficker so as a result they will go out tonight they

result they will go out tonight they

result they will go out tonight they will have sex with as many people as

will have sex with as many people as

will have sex with as many people as they can and they will give that money

they can and they will give that money

they can and they will give that money to the trafficker

to the trafficker

to the trafficker we need to understand that modern

we need to understand that modern

we need to understand that modern slavery is it’s limited by only two

slavery is it’s limited by only two

slavery is it’s limited by only two things the imagination and the coercive

things the imagination and the coercive

things the imagination and the coercive skill of the trafficker if I can think

skill of the trafficker if I can think

skill of the trafficker if I can think of ways to make money by exploiting you

of ways to make money by exploiting you

of ways to make money by exploiting you or you or you then all I need to do is

or you or you then all I need to do is

or you or you then all I need to do is figure out what are the coercive buttons

figure out what are the coercive buttons

figure out what are the coercive buttons I need to push on you and you and you

this is why if my good friend and

this is why if my good friend and colleague Andy who is a federal

colleague Andy who is a federal

colleague Andy who is a federal prosecutor and who has successfully

prosecutor and who has successfully

prosecutor and who has successfully prosecuted cases of human trafficking

prosecuted cases of human trafficking

prosecuted cases of human trafficking reminds us that human trafficking is a

reminds us that human trafficking is a

reminds us that human trafficking is a state of mind crime and that we must all

state of mind crime and that we must all

state of mind crime and that we must all have an appreciation for the coercive

have an appreciation for the coercive

have an appreciation for the coercive power everybody involved in the response

power everybody involved in the response

power everybody involved in the response from the victim advocate who’s going to

from the victim advocate who’s going to

from the victim advocate who’s going to try and help that victim move on and

try and help that victim move on and

try and help that victim move on and life free of exploitation to the police

life free of exploitation to the police

life free of exploitation to the police investigator who’s going to be talking

investigator who’s going to be talking

investigator who’s going to be talking to that victim and probably wondering

to that victim and probably wondering

to that victim and probably wondering why did you stay in that situation so

why did you stay in that situation so

why did you stay in that situation so long to the prosecutor who has to

long to the prosecutor who has to

long to the prosecutor who has to explain this in court to the judge and

explain this in court to the judge and

explain this in court to the judge and ultimately to the public at large

ultimately to the public at large

ultimately to the public at large because it’s from the public that we

because it’s from the public that we

because it’s from the public that we gain our jurors you see we all have to

gain our jurors you see we all have to

gain our jurors you see we all have to have an appreciation for that coercive

have an appreciation for that coercive

have an appreciation for that coercive control that can keep some people in

control that can keep some people in

control that can keep some people in situations that you or I would never

situations that you or I would never

situations that you or I would never dream we could find ourselves in now

dream we could find ourselves in now

dream we could find ourselves in now before I leave you with my closing

before I leave you with my closing

before I leave you with my closing thoughts I’d like us all to pause for a

thoughts I’d like us all to pause for a

thoughts I’d like us all to pause for a moment and just think about some of the

moment and just think about some of the

moment and just think about some of the other pressing issues of our day that

other pressing issues of our day that

other pressing issues of our day that impact our world or our nation or our

impact our world or our nation or our

impact our world or our nation or our community climate change energy

community climate change energy

community climate change energy dependency health care immigration

dependency health care immigration

dependency health care immigration conflicts at home and abroad all of

conflicts at home and abroad all of

conflicts at home and abroad all of these and other issues have proponents

these and other issues have proponents

these and other issues have proponents and opponents based on our perspective

and opponents based on our perspective

and opponents based on our perspective right each of whom are trying to take

right each of whom are trying to take

right each of whom are trying to take these complex issues and distill them

these complex issues and distill them

these complex issues and distill them into simple choices of right or wrong

into simple choices of right or wrong

into simple choices of right or wrong good or bad just or unjust

good or bad just or unjust

good or bad just or unjust true or false they they try to paint us

true or false they they try to paint us

true or false they they try to paint us into corners where seemingly our only

into corners where seemingly our only

into corners where seemingly our only choices are to either completely agree

choices are to either completely agree

choices are to either completely agree or completely disagree they neglect to

or completely disagree they neglect to

or completely disagree they neglect to tell us about the good work that happens

tell us about the good work that happens

tell us about the good work that happens when people meet in the middle and share

when people meet in the middle and share

when people meet in the middle and share their passion and their knowledge and

their passion and their knowledge and

their passion and their knowledge and we’re real effective change can happen

we’re real effective change can happen

we’re real effective change can happen so I would urge you if any of these

so I would urge you if any of these

so I would urge you if any of these important issues that we’re talking

important issues that we’re talking

important issues that we’re talking about many of which we are talking about

about many of which we are talking about

about many of which we are talking about today if they resonate within you

today if they resonate within you

today if they resonate within you embrace their complexities study them

embrace their complexities study them

embrace their complexities study them really learn talk to other people that

really learn talk to other people that

really learn talk to other people that have different opinions or perspectives

have different opinions or perspectives

have different opinions or perspectives than yours and don’t talk about Facebook

than yours and don’t talk about Facebook

than yours and don’t talk about Facebook slogans or snappy slogans talk about

slogans or snappy slogans talk about

slogans or snappy slogans talk about actions and solutions actions and

actions and solutions actions and

actions and solutions actions and solutions I’m afraid I have to leave you

solutions I’m afraid I have to leave you

solutions I’m afraid I have to leave you with a confession I do not know how to

with a confession I do not know how to

with a confession I do not know how to respond to the problem of 40 million

respond to the problem of 40 million

respond to the problem of 40 million people being enslaved in our world today

people being enslaved in our world today

people being enslaved in our world today that number is too big it’s too vast

that number is too big it’s too vast

that number is too big it’s too vast it’s too complex but what I would like

it’s too complex but what I would like

it’s too complex but what I would like to leave you with is this it’s what I’ve

to leave you with is this it’s what I’ve

to leave you with is this it’s what I’ve learned from my work and what I’ve

learned from my work and what I’ve

learned from my work and what I’ve learned is that these are not the

learned is that these are not the

learned is that these are not the numbers we should be focused on we

numbers we should be focused on we

numbers we should be focused on we should be focusing on the number one

should be focusing on the number one

should be focusing on the number one because when my colleagues and I come

because when my colleagues and I come

because when my colleagues and I come together and we share our expertise and

together and we share our expertise and

together and we share our expertise and our passion and we commit to working

our passion and we commit to working

our passion and we commit to working together even though we don’t always

together even though we don’t always

together even though we don’t always agree on everything then together we

agree on everything then together we

agree on everything then together we come up with real actions and solutions

come up with real actions and solutions

come up with real actions and solutions actions and solutions that will help

actions and solutions that will help

actions and solutions that will help that one victim we’re trying to help

that one victim we’re trying to help

that one victim we’re trying to help today or that one prosecutor or the one

today or that one prosecutor or the one

today or that one prosecutor or the one investigator who’s investigating that

investigator who’s investigating that

investigator who’s investigating that one case that might make a really big

one case that might make a really big

one case that might make a really big difference we can help that one

difference we can help that one

difference we can help that one community seeking the one initiative

community seeking the one initiative

community seeking the one initiative that will reduce the prevalence see in

that will reduce the prevalence see in

that will reduce the prevalence see in their communities we

their communities we

their communities we make a difference one at a time you see

make a difference one at a time you see

make a difference one at a time you see this is real this is effective and this

this is real this is effective and this

this is real this is effective and this is the best way to respond to modern

is the best way to respond to modern

is the best way to respond to modern slavery so we can all make a difference

slavery so we can all make a difference

slavery so we can all make a difference if we’re just willing to embrace these

if we’re just willing to embrace these

if we’re just willing to embrace these complexities because don’t you see it’s

complexities because don’t you see it’s

complexities because don’t you see it’s only when we embrace the complexities

only when we embrace the complexities

only when we embrace the complexities that we learned the truth about human

that we learned the truth about human

that we learned the truth about human trafficking and other things – thank you

trafficking and other things – thank you

trafficking and other things – thank you very much

very much

very much [Applause]

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