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[Applause] good afternoon all schools should be at

good afternoon all schools should be at

good afternoon all schools should be at school it’s a slogan from an English

school it’s a slogan from an English

school it’s a slogan from an English artist is called pop into practice miss

artist is called pop into practice miss

artist is called pop into practice miss and is one of the passionate people all

and is one of the passionate people all

and is one of the passionate people all around the world to try to get more art

around the world to try to get more art

around the world to try to get more art in education why is that important for

in education why is that important for

in education why is that important for the personal goal of children and young

the personal goal of children and young

the personal goal of children and young students I’ll give you a few examples

students I’ll give you a few examples

students I’ll give you a few examples the most important one is of course to

the most important one is of course to

the most important one is of course to stimulate their own dvt and I have some

stimulate their own dvt and I have some

stimulate their own dvt and I have some them some problems about

them some problems about

them some problems about the use of the relativity through

the use of the relativity through

the use of the relativity through politicians and economics it’s mostly

politicians and economics it’s mostly

politicians and economics it’s mostly time than use for instrumentalization to

time than use for instrumentalization to

time than use for instrumentalization to get us a little bit more flexible in the

get us a little bit more flexible in the

get us a little bit more flexible in the rat race and sometimes on the economic

rat race and sometimes on the economic

rat race and sometimes on the economic side just that they discovered a lost

side just that they discovered a lost

side just that they discovered a lost child again and then the gift management

child again and then the gift management

child again and then the gift management causes – I’ll give you a few more

causes – I’ll give you a few more

causes – I’ll give you a few more examples that helps to say what cannot

examples that helps to say what cannot

examples that helps to say what cannot be said it helps to discover the whole

be said it helps to discover the whole

be said it helps to discover the whole spectrum of emotions it shows that

spectrum of emotions it shows that

spectrum of emotions it shows that questions have often more than one

questions have often more than one

questions have often more than one answer and the problems have often more

answer and the problems have often more

answer and the problems have often more than one solution it encourage critical

than one solution it encourage critical

than one solution it encourage critical thinking and the ability to deal with

thinking and the ability to deal with

thinking and the ability to deal with ambivalences I remember myself that was

ambivalences I remember myself that was

ambivalences I remember myself that was a big thing when I was still young about

a big thing when I was still young about

a big thing when I was still young about sometimes tears not everything clear and

sometimes tears not everything clear and

sometimes tears not everything clear and but I wanted to have it clear so

but I wanted to have it clear so

but I wanted to have it clear so learning about dealing with ambivalences

learning about dealing with ambivalences

learning about dealing with ambivalences it offers many ways to see and to

it offers many ways to see and to

it offers many ways to see and to interpret the world it stimulates the

interpret the world it stimulates the

interpret the world it stimulates the curiosity the power of imagination and

curiosity the power of imagination and

curiosity the power of imagination and the sense of Wanda etc etc all these

the sense of Wanda etc etc all these

the sense of Wanda etc etc all these examples have one in common it cannot be

examples have one in common it cannot be

examples have one in common it cannot be measured and it is something why art is

measured and it is something why art is

measured and it is something why art is so problematic about getting in it

so problematic about getting in it

so problematic about getting in it school in a more interesting way there’s

school in a more interesting way there’s

school in a more interesting way there’s a last one I have found out but one more

a last one I have found out but one more

a last one I have found out but one more it gives you some children or their home

it gives you some children or their home

it gives you some children or their home in the artist it means if you have

in the artist it means if you have

in the artist it means if you have problems in your family you feel not

problems in your family you feel not

problems in your family you feel not feel comforted

feel comforted

feel comforted if problems in your school you see the

if problems in your school you see the

if problems in your school you see the artist out there they expressed himself

artist out there they expressed himself

artist out there they expressed himself in a different way and maybe you feel

in a different way and maybe you feel

in a different way and maybe you feel okay if it’s not there my home if it’s

okay if it’s not there my home if it’s

okay if it’s not there my home if it’s to tear my home maybe I can find my home

to tear my home maybe I can find my home

to tear my home maybe I can find my home in the art it has to do a little bit

in the art it has to do a little bit

in the art it has to do a little bit also with me I’m a child

also with me I’m a child

also with me I’m a child separated child that means I was a lot

separated child that means I was a lot

separated child that means I was a lot at home alone and there was falling in

at home alone and there was falling in

at home alone and there was falling in books and losing myself in the fantasy

books and losing myself in the fantasy

books and losing myself in the fantasy of books accident there was also coming

of books accident there was also coming

of books accident there was also coming in contact we see other because my

in contact we see other because my

in contact we see other because my mother had a girlfriend is a florist

mother had a girlfriend is a florist

mother had a girlfriend is a florist it’s the little lady who helps directors

it’s the little lady who helps directors

it’s the little lady who helps directors if they are lost in a text and they

if they are lost in a text and they

if they are lost in a text and they needed one time guy who was crossing the

needed one time guy who was crossing the

needed one time guy who was crossing the stage and I was quite try but they were

stage and I was quite try but they were

stage and I was quite try but they were saying it was a bait ok I will do it and

saying it was a bait ok I will do it and

saying it was a bait ok I will do it and then it was so attractive to me that I

then it was so attractive to me that I

then it was so attractive to me that I was went between 12 and 16

was went between 12 and 16

was went between 12 and 16 I played see either I like to go to see

I played see either I like to go to see

I played see either I like to go to see at the school but I was too young

at the school but I was too young

at the school but I was too young my mother was sending me to be safe too

my mother was sending me to be safe too

my mother was sending me to be safe too kind of hotel management school but

kind of hotel management school but

kind of hotel management school but after this immediately I started to

after this immediately I started to

after this immediately I started to place here again for 10 15 years om when

place here again for 10 15 years om when

place here again for 10 15 years om when auto-detect amity latent I mean romantic

auto-detect amity latent I mean romantic

auto-detect amity latent I mean romantic either least inspired very strong out of

either least inspired very strong out of

either least inspired very strong out of the ideas of the Enlightenment laughs

the ideas of the Enlightenment laughs

the ideas of the Enlightenment laughs and the pregnant laugh was holding me to

and the pregnant laugh was holding me to

and the pregnant laugh was holding me to puzzle because you hear it on my accent

puzzle because you hear it on my accent

puzzle because you hear it on my accent I’m Austrian a little bit Schwarzenegger

I’m Austrian a little bit Schwarzenegger

I’m Austrian a little bit Schwarzenegger accent in Brussels the nice thing

accent in Brussels the nice thing

accent in Brussels the nice thing impressed last year a lot of secondhand

impressed last year a lot of secondhand

impressed last year a lot of secondhand book shops did the little baby was

book shops did the little baby was

book shops did the little baby was stayin from my own interest but also for

stayin from my own interest but also for

stayin from my own interest but also for the interest of the little baby I

the interest of the little baby I

the interest of the little baby I started in the second hand books to buy

started in the second hand books to buy

started in the second hand books to buy some books always a good idea maybe very

some books always a good idea maybe very

some books always a good idea maybe very visual books in an outer DTAC tree if

visual books in an outer DTAC tree if

visual books in an outer DTAC tree if the baby is going maybe he can inspire

the baby is going maybe he can inspire

the baby is going maybe he can inspire himself the 12 books for the little

himself the 12 books for the little

himself the 12 books for the little babies are in the meantime 12,000 and it

babies are in the meantime 12,000 and it

babies are in the meantime 12,000 and it was going out a little bit out of my

was going out a little bit out of my

was going out a little bit out of my interests and suddenly more or less

interests and suddenly more or less

interests and suddenly more or less ideas out of the books were starting to

ideas out of the books were starting to

ideas out of the books were starting to talk and I had more or less the idea out

talk and I had more or less the idea out

talk and I had more or less the idea out of the frustration which I experienced

of the frustration which I experienced

of the frustration which I experienced in the past it’s cool about how out

in the past it’s cool about how out

in the past it’s cool about how out education was done maybe it would be not

education was done maybe it would be not

education was done maybe it would be not so bad to construct kind of a mobile

so bad to construct kind of a mobile

so bad to construct kind of a mobile studio which can fly in sport in Kim

studio which can fly in sport in Kim

studio which can fly in sport in Kim of schools just give children and

of schools just give children and

of schools just give children and youngsters a little bit another

youngsters a little bit another

youngsters a little bit another expression and another possibility of

expression and another possibility of

expression and another possibility of experience art I financed it for four

experience art I financed it for four

experience art I financed it for four years on a private level then I had

years on a private level then I had

years on a private level then I had incredible luck it can only help help

incredible luck it can only help help

incredible luck it can only help help happen in Belgium in Brussels kind of a

happen in Belgium in Brussels kind of a

happen in Belgium in Brussels kind of a surrealistic situation it was a Gavin

surrealistic situation it was a Gavin

surrealistic situation it was a Gavin there was a government and there was a

there was a government and there was a

there was a government and there was a culture minister and there was a cabinet

culture minister and there was a cabinet

culture minister and there was a cabinet non-political government and they

non-political government and they

non-political government and they realized I’m working on the social level

realized I’m working on the social level

realized I’m working on the social level because we worked also for three years

because we worked also for three years

because we worked also for three years in an immigrant house with immigrant

in an immigrant house with immigrant

in an immigrant house with immigrant children work from the artistic level on

children work from the artistic level on

children work from the artistic level on the education level so the great that

the education level so the great that

the education level so the great that kind of align and that was the first

kind of align and that was the first

kind of align and that was the first time that we get some subvention so it’s

time that we get some subvention so it’s

time that we get some subvention so it’s ABC art basics for children is kind of a

ABC art basics for children is kind of a

ABC art basics for children is kind of a nonprofit organization operating on the

nonprofit organization operating on the

nonprofit organization operating on the borderline of the arts and education and

borderline of the arts and education and

borderline of the arts and education and also a lab for aesthetic experience and

also a lab for aesthetic experience and

also a lab for aesthetic experience and awareness it’s just a basic idea of way

awareness it’s just a basic idea of way

awareness it’s just a basic idea of way of working I think you cannot construct

of working I think you cannot construct

of working I think you cannot construct magic moments but you can try to create

magic moments but you can try to create

magic moments but you can try to create a prepared environment which increases

a prepared environment which increases

a prepared environment which increases the chances that things can happen that

the chances that things can happen that

the chances that things can happen that means selecting the best ideas all over

means selecting the best ideas all over

means selecting the best ideas all over the world for all ages if we construct

the world for all ages if we construct

the world for all ages if we construct Studios prepared environment we do it

Studios prepared environment we do it

Studios prepared environment we do it for ourselves and not for a child which

for ourselves and not for a child which

for ourselves and not for a child which is six or twelve or whatever play is the

is six or twelve or whatever play is the

is six or twelve or whatever play is the highest form of research already

highest form of research already

highest form of research already Einstein was saying this so we research

Einstein was saying this so we research

Einstein was saying this so we research and we give this kind of action research

and we give this kind of action research

and we give this kind of action research further to public we take a lot of time

further to public we take a lot of time

further to public we take a lot of time if a school bus is coming to us to spend

if a school bus is coming to us to spend

if a school bus is coming to us to spend the whole day we work in small groups

the whole day we work in small groups

the whole day we work in small groups that means around twenty four children

that means around twenty four children

that means around twenty four children are separated in four little group of

are separated in four little group of

are separated in four little group of six children we have a lot of respect to

six children we have a lot of respect to

six children we have a lot of respect to the individuality of them we have kind

the individuality of them we have kind

the individuality of them we have kind of an holistic approach that means out

of an holistic approach that means out

of an holistic approach that means out of cooking is also included and of

of cooking is also included and of

of cooking is also included and of course the sinking hand that means a

course the sinking hand that means a

course the sinking hand that means a culture to make experiment and to make

culture to make experiment and to make

culture to make experiment and to make mistakes sometimes which is really

mistakes sometimes which is really

mistakes sometimes which is really missing at school very very important

missing at school very very important

missing at school very very important our guides which are more or less

our guides which are more or less

our guides which are more or less assisting on the discoveries of the

assisting on the discoveries of the

assisting on the discoveries of the children that’s a little bit our showing

children that’s a little bit our showing

children that’s a little bit our showing the house it’s an workshop week in

the house it’s an workshop week in

the house it’s an workshop week in Brussels which we transformed and it’s a

Brussels which we transformed and it’s a

Brussels which we transformed and it’s a little bit few of the

little bit few of the

little bit few of the inside why all shoes should be at school

inside why all shoes should be at school

inside why all shoes should be at school so I’ve won there a lot of answers

so I’ve won there a lot of answers

so I’ve won there a lot of answers passaic if you a very specific one to

passaic if you a very specific one to

passaic if you a very specific one to balance out the going in equality

balance out the going in equality

balance out the going in equality between the rich and the poor in our

between the rich and the poor in our

between the rich and the poor in our society and to give equal chances for

society and to give equal chances for

society and to give equal chances for the majority and not only for the few

the majority and not only for the few

the majority and not only for the few one of the many statistic results just

one of the many statistic results just

one of the many statistic results just say you won children and students from

say you won children and students from

say you won children and students from low-income families who take part in art

low-income families who take part in art

low-income families who take part in art activities have three times more chances

activities have three times more chances

activities have three times more chances to finish the school is just one example

to finish the school is just one example

to finish the school is just one example the situation for the moment depends on

the situation for the moment depends on

the situation for the moment depends on luck

luck

luck you all know lack of perast it means if

you all know lack of perast it means if

you all know lack of perast it means if you’re born in a family with a cultural

you’re born in a family with a cultural

you’re born in a family with a cultural background as a child you’re already

background as a child you’re already

background as a child you’re already quite a step further the next two choice

quite a step further the next two choice

quite a step further the next two choice of the parents about which kind of

of the parents about which kind of

of the parents about which kind of school do they have kind of an art

school do they have kind of an art

school do they have kind of an art program eg interesting so mostly time

program eg interesting so mostly time

program eg interesting so mostly time the middle class which are choosing

the middle class which are choosing

the middle class which are choosing method schools they have their parents

method schools they have their parents

method schools they have their parents with a backup in cultural competencies

with a backup in cultural competencies

with a backup in cultural competencies but I’m more interested not about the

but I’m more interested not about the

but I’m more interested not about the 10% which are sending them the good

10% which are sending them the good

10% which are sending them the good schools I’m more interested about what’s

schools I’m more interested about what’s

schools I’m more interested about what’s about the 90% if you have more or less

about the 90% if you have more or less

about the 90% if you have more or less always the lack of having an inspiring

always the lack of having an inspiring

always the lack of having an inspiring supporting teach it would be very

supporting teach it would be very

supporting teach it would be very interesting to talk to you about if you

interesting to talk to you about if you

interesting to talk to you about if you have an experience about it so the right

have an experience about it so the right

have an experience about it so the right of a poetic life and the right to come

of a poetic life and the right to come

of a poetic life and the right to come in an interesting way in contact with

in an interesting way in contact with

in an interesting way in contact with towards it for me a very important thing

towards it for me a very important thing

towards it for me a very important thing so to very complete success ins to make

so to very complete success ins to make

so to very complete success ins to make this happen the first is think about the

this happen the first is think about the

this happen the first is think about the education of the teacher it starts

education of the teacher it starts

education of the teacher it starts already about the good designed learning

already about the good designed learning

already about the good designed learning and why I meant why because if you have

and why I meant why because if you have

and why I meant why because if you have it it’s kind of an indirect aesthetic

it it’s kind of an indirect aesthetic

it it’s kind of an indirect aesthetic education now the good she was saying

education now the good she was saying

education now the good she was saying already the space is a separate teacher

already the space is a separate teacher

already the space is a separate teacher and the material of culture and of

and the material of culture and of

and the material of culture and of schooling is awesome but so if the

schooling is awesome but so if the

schooling is awesome but so if the students are basic feeling the becoming

students are basic feeling the becoming

students are basic feeling the becoming teachers about architecture and interior

teachers about architecture and interior

teachers about architecture and interior design so they and give them the

design so they and give them the

design so they and give them the possibility to participate in kind of a

possibility to participate in kind of a

possibility to participate in kind of a design process if school is renovating

design process if school is renovating

design process if school is renovating of a new building is coming up I just

of a new building is coming up I just

of a new building is coming up I just show you one example maybe you will

show you one example maybe you will

show you one example maybe you will experience it about Carla architecture

experience it about Carla architecture

experience it about Carla architecture seeing it’s for children we make it

seeing it’s for children we make it

seeing it’s for children we make it happy

happy

happy so one more blue red green next one is

so one more blue red green next one is

so one more blue red green next one is the furniture coming in social marketing

the furniture coming in social marketing

the furniture coming in social marketing it’s for happy children or clean break

it’s for happy children or clean break

it’s for happy children or clean break blue at whatever next to the toys coming

blue at whatever next to the toys coming

blue at whatever next to the toys coming in again marketing so you come already

in again marketing so you come already

in again marketing so you come already in in the home which is an overkill and

in in the home which is an overkill and

in in the home which is an overkill and Carlos Morales and if the teachers are

Carlos Morales and if the teachers are

Carlos Morales and if the teachers are not good educated they think also be I

not good educated they think also be I

not good educated they think also be I have to show up that they’re good busy

have to show up that they’re good busy

have to show up that they’re good busy so the glue everything for the Christmas

so the glue everything for the Christmas

so the glue everything for the Christmas decoration and the Easter decoration and

decoration and the Easter decoration and

decoration and the Easter decoration and all the works of the children absolutely

all the works of the children absolutely

all the works of the children absolutely no feeling about the balance in this

no feeling about the balance in this

no feeling about the balance in this place the second thing is a hidden

place the second thing is a hidden

place the second thing is a hidden curriculum

curriculum

curriculum it means like just try to make this

it means like just try to make this

it means like just try to make this becoming teachers interesting persons

becoming teachers interesting persons

becoming teachers interesting persons and this you cannot be an interesting

and this you cannot be an interesting

and this you cannot be an interesting person just to give a booklet and read

person just to give a booklet and read

person just to give a booklet and read this and then you’re an interesting

this and then you’re an interesting

this and then you’re an interesting person becoming teachers they were never

person becoming teachers they were never

person becoming teachers they were never going out of school they had never

going out of school they had never

going out of school they had never experienced out of any kind of normal

experienced out of any kind of normal

experienced out of any kind of normal life experience so in the teacher

life experience so in the teacher

life experience so in the teacher education I forget them confronted with

education I forget them confronted with

education I forget them confronted with interesting people with interesting

interesting people with interesting

interesting people with interesting experience so they can have something

experience so they can have something

experience so they can have something were to give further to the children

were to give further to the children

were to give further to the children another thing is of course artistic way

another thing is of course artistic way

another thing is of course artistic way of teaching teachers which understand

of teaching teachers which understand

of teaching teachers which understand art as a pedagogic process and the

art as a pedagogic process and the

art as a pedagogic process and the pedagogic a sadistic process would be

pedagogic a sadistic process would be

pedagogic a sadistic process would be also nice the second suggestion is to

also nice the second suggestion is to

also nice the second suggestion is to rethink education in general its

rethink education in general its

rethink education in general its magnetic to culture organizations like

magnetic to culture organizations like

magnetic to culture organizations like musiah’s libraries theaters art and

musiah’s libraries theaters art and

musiah’s libraries theaters art and culture houses they tried oh of course

culture houses they tried oh of course

culture houses they tried oh of course they did they have a nice to have nice

they did they have a nice to have nice

they did they have a nice to have nice programs on him

programs on him

programs on him but my question is please try to offer

but my question is please try to offer

but my question is please try to offer more and more art education projects for

more and more art education projects for

more and more art education projects for the public and school children but in

the public and school children but in

the public and school children but in which way they just do it in the way

which way they just do it in the way

which way they just do it in the way serving the structures of the schools

serving the structures of the schools

serving the structures of the schools which are really not very helpful and

which are really not very helpful and

which are really not very helpful and they don’t take the responsibility to

they don’t take the responsibility to

they don’t take the responsibility to engage themselves in educational reform

engage themselves in educational reform

engage themselves in educational reform debates about the arts in the curriculum

debates about the arts in the curriculum

debates about the arts in the curriculum and the general curriculum discussion

and the general curriculum discussion

and the general curriculum discussion there’s a radical vision I was copying

there’s a radical vision I was copying

there’s a radical vision I was copying for you you can take it this or you find

for you you can take it this or you find

for you you can take it this or you find in our website on internet a provocative

in our website on internet a provocative

in our website on internet a provocative example of Susan Sontag over saying just

example of Susan Sontag over saying just

example of Susan Sontag over saying just get the kids between 12 and 16 out of

get the kids between 12 and 16 out of

get the kids between 12 and 16 out of school anyway they are completely mixed

school anyway they are completely mixed

school anyway they are completely mixed up

up

up and get the people between 50 and 50 for

and get the people between 50 and 50 for

and get the people between 50 and 50 for back-to-school it’s a really really

back-to-school it’s a really really

back-to-school it’s a really really fantastic thing just please

fantastic thing just please

fantastic thing just please hate it my solution is the art cart

hate it my solution is the art cart

hate it my solution is the art cart organization should wake wake up maybe

organization should wake wake up maybe

organization should wake wake up maybe one exposition less if the money was one

one exposition less if the money was one

one exposition less if the money was one exposition let’s give it to your

exposition let’s give it to your

exposition let’s give it to your Education Department we show them more

Education Department we show them more

Education Department we show them more respect to give them more freedom to

respect to give them more freedom to

respect to give them more freedom to give them the possibility to work in

give them the possibility to work in

give them the possibility to work in better qualities and not only more or

better qualities and not only more or

better qualities and not only more or less precooked experience or hiding to

less precooked experience or hiding to

less precooked experience or hiding to us again so and take aims as example the

us again so and take aims as example the

us again so and take aims as example the famous designer from the 50s Hoover

famous designer from the 50s Hoover

famous designer from the 50s Hoover saying let’s weave the art and the

saying let’s weave the art and the

saying let’s weave the art and the standard curriculum together and this is

standard curriculum together and this is

standard curriculum together and this is a very very important thing why not by

a very very important thing why not by

a very very important thing why not by having in school and art integrated

having in school and art integrated

having in school and art integrated curriculum that means all subjects you

curriculum that means all subjects you

curriculum that means all subjects you can use art ideas it does not matter if

can use art ideas it does not matter if

can use art ideas it does not matter if it’s mathematics which al-kafi of logic

it’s mathematics which al-kafi of logic

it’s mathematics which al-kafi of logic every where you can use interesting art

every where you can use interesting art

every where you can use interesting art ideas and make your teaching in this way

ideas and make your teaching in this way

ideas and make your teaching in this way better they becoming teachers have to

better they becoming teachers have to

better they becoming teachers have to learn this at school and there has to be

learn this at school and there has to be

learn this at school and there has to be a curriculum discussion and one more

a curriculum discussion and one more

a curriculum discussion and one more little cloud on the end about the

little cloud on the end about the

little cloud on the end about the importance of art for the personal Co

importance of art for the personal Co

importance of art for the personal Co it’s from Jennifer Williams not only how

it’s from Jennifer Williams not only how

it’s from Jennifer Williams not only how can we bring the arts to young people

can we bring the arts to young people

can we bring the arts to young people but also in which way are they already

but also in which way are they already

but also in which way are they already artists of their own life because sooner

artists of their own life because sooner

artists of their own life because sooner or later we all will have to face a big

or later we all will have to face a big

or later we all will have to face a big confrontation the certainty of death the

confrontation the certainty of death the

confrontation the certainty of death the finality of our life and we can try to

finality of our life and we can try to

finality of our life and we can try to deal with the situation through religion

deal with the situation through religion

deal with the situation through religion so philosophy but also through the art

so philosophy but also through the art

so philosophy but also through the art to learn to die thank you for your

to learn to die thank you for your

to learn to die thank you for your attention

attention

attention [Applause]

[Applause]

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