
my talk is about asking some simple questions about inclusion and equality
questions about inclusion and equality
questions about inclusion and equality and to invite you to engage with me in
and to invite you to engage with me in
and to invite you to engage with me in trying to understand why the asking of
trying to understand why the asking of
trying to understand why the asking of those questions generates complicated
those questions generates complicated
those questions generates complicated answers um my argument is that we should
answers um my argument is that we should
answers um my argument is that we should reclaim the term inclusion if we are
reclaim the term inclusion if we are
reclaim the term inclusion if we are serious about equality’s because
serious about equality’s because
serious about equality’s because diversity is only a part of the story
diversity is only a part of the story
diversity is only a part of the story diversity is about audit whereas
diversity is about audit whereas
diversity is about audit whereas inclusion is about action so here’s the
inclusion is about action so here’s the
inclusion is about action so here’s the thing you know when you’re at a party
thing you know when you’re at a party
thing you know when you’re at a party and you meet someone that you don’t know
and you meet someone that you don’t know
and you meet someone that you don’t know and they’re interested in you and they
and they’re interested in you and they
and they’re interested in you and they want to find out more for a simple
want to find out more for a simple
want to find out more for a simple question they ask you what do you do
question they ask you what do you do
question they ask you what do you do okay seems like there will be a simple
okay seems like there will be a simple
okay seems like there will be a simple answer to that question I say I work at
answer to that question I say I work at
answer to that question I say I work at a university I’m an academic we’re in
a university I’m an academic we’re in
a university I’m an academic we’re in good ground yeah
good ground yeah
good ground yeah but some people would say and I agree
but some people would say and I agree
but some people would say and I agree with them but that’s not the end of the
with them but that’s not the end of the
with them but that’s not the end of the story
story
story and for me for this body I have to say
and for me for this body I have to say
and for me for this body I have to say something else I have to say that I am a
something else I have to say that I am a
something else I have to say that I am a black academic or an academic who is
black academic or an academic who is
black academic or an academic who is black and that’s not just playing with
black and that’s not just playing with
black and that’s not just playing with words it’s opening the door to something
words it’s opening the door to something
words it’s opening the door to something which is significant because this body
which is significant because this body
which is significant because this body speaks for me in ways that sometimes I
speaks for me in ways that sometimes I
speaks for me in ways that sometimes I cannot control and so there is an
cannot control and so there is an
cannot control and so there is an argument that says I cannot simply be an
argument that says I cannot simply be an
argument that says I cannot simply be an academic so I’m a black academic working
academic so I’m a black academic working
academic so I’m a black academic working in a predominantly white Academy it’s
in a predominantly white Academy it’s
in a predominantly white Academy it’s there a park now and we’ll come back to
there a park now and we’ll come back to
there a park now and we’ll come back to it later when I applied for this talk
it later when I applied for this talk
it later when I applied for this talk some of the political situations that
some of the political situations that
some of the political situations that we’re seeing on the various news feeds
we’re seeing on the various news feeds
we’re seeing on the various news feeds across the world hadn’t taken place and
across the world hadn’t taken place and
across the world hadn’t taken place and I think now there’s all the more reason
I think now there’s all the more reason
I think now there’s all the more reason for us to consider bringing back the
for us to consider bringing back the
for us to consider bringing back the notion of inclusion into what we do a
notion of inclusion into what we do a
notion of inclusion into what we do a word about black academics there aren’t
word about black academics there aren’t
word about black academics there aren’t very many and a colleague’s has likened
very many and a colleague’s has likened
very many and a colleague’s has likened them to hen’s teeth and for those that
them to hen’s teeth and for those that
them to hen’s teeth and for those that don’t know hens don’t have teeth yeah so
don’t know hens don’t have teeth yeah so
don’t know hens don’t have teeth yeah so some statistics to back up what I mean
some statistics to back up what I mean
some statistics to back up what I mean in 2009 of the 14,000 professors in
in 2009 of the 14,000 professors in
in 2009 of the 14,000 professors in universities across the UK 50 were black
universities across the UK 50 were black
universities across the UK 50 were black which is about one in 285 something like
which is about one in 285 something like
which is about one in 285 something like that and in the 2016 survey of higher
that and in the 2016 survey of higher
that and in the 2016 survey of higher education how many senior managers of
education how many senior managers of
education how many senior managers of universities were black simple question
universities were black simple question
universities were black simple question answer zero now it might seem that when
answer zero now it might seem that when
answer zero now it might seem that when I give you that information that I’ve
I give you that information that I’ve
I give you that information that I’ve located myself in a position of judgment
located myself in a position of judgment
located myself in a position of judgment as a person from a minority
as a person from a minority
as a person from a minority I’m giving statistics that allows me to
I’m giving statistics that allows me to
I’m giving statistics that allows me to pass judgment on a predominantly white
pass judgment on a predominantly white
pass judgment on a predominantly white audience that’s not my intention but
audience that’s not my intention but
audience that’s not my intention but what it does trigger is a feeling I
what it does trigger is a feeling I
what it does trigger is a feeling I can’t lie when I did hear the odd sorry
can’t lie when I did hear the odd sorry
can’t lie when I did hear the odd sorry well if there’s discomfiture in you in
well if there’s discomfiture in you in
well if there’s discomfiture in you in the audience hearing those statistics
the audience hearing those statistics
the audience hearing those statistics there is discomfiture in me sharing them
there is discomfiture in me sharing them
there is discomfiture in me sharing them with you and that’s one of the really
with you and that’s one of the really
with you and that’s one of the really interesting things about work around
interesting things about work around
interesting things about work around inclusion and diversity one of the major
inclusion and diversity one of the major
inclusion and diversity one of the major elements that’s in it is emotion its
elements that’s in it is emotion its
elements that’s in it is emotion its emotion the power has been using for
emotion the power has been using for
emotion the power has been using for centuries to keep those different groups
centuries to keep those different groups
centuries to keep those different groups in their place and obviously I’m talking
in their place and obviously I’m talking
in their place and obviously I’m talking about ethnicity here it’s one of the
about ethnicity here it’s one of the
about ethnicity here it’s one of the elements of my body that speaks the
elements of my body that speaks the
elements of my body that speaks the loudest we could be talking about any
loudest we could be talking about any
loudest we could be talking about any other trigger which keeps people
other trigger which keeps people
other trigger which keeps people excluded but for this talk I’m going to
excluded but for this talk I’m going to
excluded but for this talk I’m going to talk about ethnicity okay so the theme
talk about ethnicity okay so the theme
talk about ethnicity okay so the theme of this TEDx is the next stage so my
of this TEDx is the next stage so my
of this TEDx is the next stage so my question hopefully a simple question is
question hopefully a simple question is
question hopefully a simple question is what is the next stage for higher
what is the next stage for higher
what is the next stage for higher education what is it that universities
education what is it that universities
education what is it that universities need to do to increase inclusion and
need to do to increase inclusion and
need to do to increase inclusion and equality so it would be remiss of me
equality so it would be remiss of me
equality so it would be remiss of me seeing as we are in a school of speech
seeing as we are in a school of speech
seeing as we are in a school of speech and drama to not mention some other
and drama to not mention some other
and drama to not mention some other research recently the acting up research
research recently the acting up research
research recently the acting up research that was done by Tracy Bhavan MP and
that was done by Tracy Bhavan MP and
that was done by Tracy Bhavan MP and others talked about those people from
others talked about those people from
others talked about those people from different minority situations that were
different minority situations that were
different minority situations that were not being represented in film and
not being represented in film and
not being represented in film and television and theatre and also a more
television and theatre and also a more
television and theatre and also a more globalized piece of research which is
globalized piece of research which is
globalized piece of research which is important to this argument talked about
important to this argument talked about
important to this argument talked about segregation in UK universities and by
segregation in UK universities and by
segregation in UK universities and by that this was research that was done by
that this was research that was done by
that this was research that was done by the University of Bath by that I mean
the University of Bath by that I mean
the University of Bath by that I mean the self segregation of students from
the self segregation of students from
the self segregation of students from ethnic minorities in their selection of
ethnic minorities in their selection of
ethnic minorities in their selection of universities and the research revealed
universities and the research revealed
universities and the research revealed that students from ethnic minorities
that students from ethnic minorities
that students from ethnic minorities looked at their current demography of
looked at their current demography of
looked at their current demography of the student body when they were applying
the student body when they were applying
the student body when they were applying to universities yeah well that seems
to universities yeah well that seems
to universities yeah well that seems reasonable but if you consider this if
reasonable but if you consider this if
reasonable but if you consider this if you think about some of our more
you think about some of our more
you think about some of our more august’s schools of learning they may
august’s schools of learning they may
august’s schools of learning they may not be that diverse so there is a
not be that diverse so there is a
not be that diverse so there is a vicious cycle that is set into being
vicious cycle that is set into being
vicious cycle that is set into being where students method minorities look at
where students method minorities look at
where students method minorities look at those universities and one of their
those universities and one of their
those universities and one of their major fears was if I go to that
major fears was if I go to that
major fears was if I go to that institution will I experience racism so
institution will I experience racism so
institution will I experience racism so therefore I won’t go there
therefore I won’t go there
therefore I won’t go there and I think that notion that
and I think that notion that
and I think that notion that internalized concern coming from the
internalized concern coming from the
internalized concern coming from the person who is the minority is one of the
person who is the minority is one of the
person who is the minority is one of the things that I want to challenge when I’m
things that I want to challenge when I’m
things that I want to challenge when I’m talking about the term diversity there’s
talking about the term diversity there’s
talking about the term diversity there’s what does it really mean if you were to
what does it really mean if you were to
what does it really mean if you were to put me that’s that that black academic
put me that’s that that black academic
put me that’s that that black academic in a room with a hundred ninety nine
in a room with a hundred ninety nine
in a room with a hundred ninety nine white academics it’s a diverse
white academics it’s a diverse
white academics it’s a diverse environment
but is it an inclusive environment I
but is it an inclusive environment I would say not so what we need to
would say not so what we need to
would say not so what we need to consider are the ways in which we can
consider are the ways in which we can
consider are the ways in which we can postulate those simple questions in a
postulate those simple questions in a
postulate those simple questions in a way that the emotion and the judgment
way that the emotion and the judgment
way that the emotion and the judgment isn’t necessarily there now I’m no
isn’t necessarily there now I’m no
isn’t necessarily there now I’m no expert in inclusivity and equalities but
expert in inclusivity and equalities but
expert in inclusivity and equalities but I have gone through the years research
I have gone through the years research
I have gone through the years research as being a black person in a black body
as being a black person in a black body
as being a black person in a black body and I’m bringing that to the fore now
and I’m bringing that to the fore now
and I’m bringing that to the fore now because if I’m really honest with you
because if I’m really honest with you
because if I’m really honest with you looking like this and having my body
looking like this and having my body
looking like this and having my body speak about me in the way it does one of
speak about me in the way it does one of
speak about me in the way it does one of the last things I wanted to do as a
the last things I wanted to do as a
the last things I wanted to do as a researcher was look at issues of
researcher was look at issues of
researcher was look at issues of inclusivity I didn’t want to be the
inclusivity I didn’t want to be the
inclusivity I didn’t want to be the person that when I walked into the room
person that when I walked into the room
person that when I walked into the room and people knew what my research was
and people knew what my research was
and people knew what my research was they would go oh I could see were you
they would go oh I could see were you
they would go oh I could see were you doing that I didn’t want to be the
doing that I didn’t want to be the
doing that I didn’t want to be the poster boy for inclusivity but if you
poster boy for inclusivity but if you
poster boy for inclusivity but if you step back and look even further my
step back and look even further my
step back and look even further my presence in the Academy meant that meant
presence in the Academy meant that meant
presence in the Academy meant that meant that I was doing some kind of diversity
that I was doing some kind of diversity
that I was doing some kind of diversity work already I wasn’t doing the
work already I wasn’t doing the
work already I wasn’t doing the diversity potentially I was the
diversity potentially I was the
diversity potentially I was the diversity and that’s not ideal so one of
diversity and that’s not ideal so one of
diversity and that’s not ideal so one of the things I considered was I had to
the things I considered was I had to
the things I considered was I had to move past that poster boy stuff and had
move past that poster boy stuff and had
move past that poster boy stuff and had to move past that discomfiture and begin
to move past that discomfiture and begin
to move past that discomfiture and begin to ask those simple questions how can we
to ask those simple questions how can we
to ask those simple questions how can we make this place more diverse whatever
make this place more diverse whatever
make this place more diverse whatever that place Eve so that’s what I’m doing
that place Eve so that’s what I’m doing
that place Eve so that’s what I’m doing now but before doing that I was doing
now but before doing that I was doing
now but before doing that I was doing some other practice it’s called applied
some other practice it’s called applied
some other practice it’s called applied theatre and for those who aren’t
theatre and for those who aren’t
theatre and for those who aren’t necessarily okay with it it’s the use of
necessarily okay with it it’s the use of
necessarily okay with it it’s the use of theatrical practices outside of a
theatrical practices outside of a
theatrical practices outside of a theatre environment and what’s
theatre environment and what’s
theatre environment and what’s interesting about it is that it often
interesting about it is that it often
interesting about it is that it often works with participants who are the same
works with participants who are the same
works with participants who are the same participants who are experiencing
participants who are experiencing
participants who are experiencing exclusion and marginality and
exclusion and marginality and
exclusion and marginality and additionally applied theatre tends to
additionally applied theatre tends to
additionally applied theatre tends to work in environments where it hasn’t set
work in environments where it hasn’t set
work in environments where it hasn’t set out the rules of engagement
out the rules of engagement
out the rules of engagement so there was this synergy between work
so there was this synergy between work
so there was this synergy between work around diversity and inclusion and work
around diversity and inclusion and work
around diversity and inclusion and work around applied theater
around applied theater
around applied theater I might bugbear who thought you’d hear
I might bugbear who thought you’d hear
I might bugbear who thought you’d hear bugbear on a Friday morning my bugbear
bugbear on a Friday morning my bugbear
bugbear on a Friday morning my bugbear with the term diversity is that it
with the term diversity is that it
with the term diversity is that it doesn’t ask the question and I can
doesn’t ask the question and I can
doesn’t ask the question and I can understand why diversity is a term which
understand why diversity is a term which
understand why diversity is a term which has gained more and more traction
has gained more and more traction
has gained more and more traction because for those people working in
because for those people working in
because for those people working in diversity talking about in quality
diversity talking about in quality
diversity talking about in quality equality and inclusion triggers
equality and inclusion triggers
equality and inclusion triggers responses both in the speaker and the
responses both in the speaker and the
responses both in the speaker and the listener and reading the work of Sarah
listener and reading the work of Sarah
listener and reading the work of Sarah are made and others I could only agree
are made and others I could only agree
are made and others I could only agree when I say when I see and say those
when I say when I see and say those
when I say when I see and say those ideas about what what about inclusion
ideas about what what about inclusion
ideas about what what about inclusion and there is a collective sigh and a
and there is a collective sigh and a
and there is a collective sigh and a rolling of eyes amongst some in the room
rolling of eyes amongst some in the room
rolling of eyes amongst some in the room those people who may not be as vested in
those people who may not be as vested in
those people who may not be as vested in issues of inclusivity inequalities as
issues of inclusivity inequalities as
issues of inclusivity inequalities as those people who because of their bodies
those people who because of their bodies
those people who because of their bodies it speaks loudly for them and in that
it speaks loudly for them and in that
it speaks loudly for them and in that way the term diversity is slightly more
way the term diversity is slightly more
way the term diversity is slightly more palatable it’s slightly easier it also
palatable it’s slightly easier it also
palatable it’s slightly easier it also runs the risk of becoming something that
runs the risk of becoming something that
runs the risk of becoming something that is done yeah we’re doing what we’re
is done yeah we’re doing what we’re
is done yeah we’re doing what we’re doing diversity we’ve got lots of
doing diversity we’ve got lots of
doing diversity we’ve got lots of policies we are we’re all over diversity
policies we are we’re all over diversity
policies we are we’re all over diversity okay and that’s one of the simple
okay and that’s one of the simple
okay and that’s one of the simple questions that I’d like to challenge
questions that I’d like to challenge
questions that I’d like to challenge what does all-over diversity mean and is
what does all-over diversity mean and is
what does all-over diversity mean and is all-over diversity inclusivity now one
all-over diversity inclusivity now one
all-over diversity inclusivity now one of the ideas about change that I’m
of the ideas about change that I’m
of the ideas about change that I’m thinking about comes from the Japanese
thinking about comes from the Japanese
thinking about comes from the Japanese ceramic art of kansui for those that may
ceramic art of kansui for those that may
ceramic art of kansui for those that may not know
kansui is what happens when you have a
kansui is what happens when you have a precious object ceramic object and it’s
precious object ceramic object and it’s
precious object ceramic object and it’s broken
broken
broken kansui is the act of repairing that
kansui is the act of repairing that
kansui is the act of repairing that object but repairing it with gold so
object but repairing it with gold so
object but repairing it with gold so that the new repaired object has a MOT
that the new repaired object has a MOT
that the new repaired object has a MOT has a stronger material value than it
has a stronger material value than it
has a stronger material value than it did before it was broken and why I was
did before it was broken and why I was
did before it was broken and why I was drawn to consume it was this one of the
drawn to consume it was this one of the
drawn to consume it was this one of the things I believe we should be
things I believe we should be
things I believe we should be considering is bringing our kansui
considering is bringing our kansui
considering is bringing our kansui to issues of diversity equality and
to issues of diversity equality and
to issues of diversity equality and inclusion if there are people who don’t
inclusion if there are people who don’t
inclusion if there are people who don’t consider equality and inclusion
consider equality and inclusion
consider equality and inclusion significant how could we draw them as
significant how could we draw them as
significant how could we draw them as stakeholders into the conversation
stakeholders into the conversation
stakeholders into the conversation because sometimes just calling people to
because sometimes just calling people to
because sometimes just calling people to account creates a stepping back a
account creates a stepping back a
account creates a stepping back a retrenchment and a defensive set of
retrenchment and a defensive set of
retrenchment and a defensive set of behaviors that are not productive as I
behaviors that are not productive as I
behaviors that are not productive as I said I think diversity is about audit
said I think diversity is about audit
said I think diversity is about audit inclusivity is about action and I would
inclusivity is about action and I would
inclusivity is about action and I would include all those people who are parts
include all those people who are parts
include all those people who are parts of the majorities of whatever majority I
of the majorities of whatever majority I
of the majorities of whatever majority I know there’s a massive intersection here
know there’s a massive intersection here
know there’s a massive intersection here to be part of that conversation and
to be part of that conversation and
to be part of that conversation and that’s where my consumer is for me if we
that’s where my consumer is for me if we
that’s where my consumer is for me if we can somehow draw attention to the fact
can somehow draw attention to the fact
can somehow draw attention to the fact that as a body we are interested in
that as a body we are interested in
that as a body we are interested in issues of inclusion and equality we are
issues of inclusion and equality we are
issues of inclusion and equality we are beginning to offer the conversation in a
beginning to offer the conversation in a
beginning to offer the conversation in a different range of ways what do I mean
different range of ways what do I mean
different range of ways what do I mean well I mean it’s things that we can do
well I mean it’s things that we can do
well I mean it’s things that we can do often those people who are interested
often those people who are interested
often those people who are interested about diversity equalities and inclusion
about diversity equalities and inclusion
about diversity equalities and inclusion look to institutions to change it’s not
look to institutions to change it’s not
look to institutions to change it’s not a bad start if you go back to the
a bad start if you go back to the
a bad start if you go back to the statistics I mentioned universities can
statistics I mentioned universities can
statistics I mentioned universities can do some things but as individuals in
do some things but as individuals in
do some things but as individuals in universities and as a black academic I’m
universities and as a black academic I’m
universities and as a black academic I’m reminded of the work of feminist
reminded of the work of feminist
reminded of the work of feminist researcher Janice Raymond who talks
researcher Janice Raymond who talks
researcher Janice Raymond who talks about women in business and she says
about women in business and she says
about women in business and she says that women in business are often
that women in business are often
that women in business are often inside Outsiders not of the system but
inside Outsiders not of the system but
inside Outsiders not of the system but somehow accepted in a way that gives
somehow accepted in a way that gives
somehow accepted in a way that gives them a different kind of agency and I
them a different kind of agency and I
them a different kind of agency and I would say as a black academic in a
would say as a black academic in a
would say as a black academic in a predominantly white Academy I’m an
predominantly white Academy I’m an
predominantly white Academy I’m an inside outsider and that inside outsider
inside outsider and that inside outsider
inside outsider and that inside outsider Ness gives me an opportunity to use my
insurgent applied theater practice
insurgent applied theater practice because that’s what I argue applied
because that’s what I argue applied
because that’s what I argue applied theater can be
theater can be
theater can be it’s not often codified by the people
it’s not often codified by the people
it’s not often codified by the people who commissioned it and it does all
who commissioned it and it does all
who commissioned it and it does all kinds of things like the amazing
kinds of things like the amazing
kinds of things like the amazing transformation and changes that you’ve
transformation and changes that you’ve
transformation and changes that you’ve heard from speakers earlier so what
heard from speakers earlier so what
heard from speakers earlier so what happens if we bring that insurgency into
happens if we bring that insurgency into
happens if we bring that insurgency into issues of inclusivity and equality
issues of inclusivity and equality
issues of inclusivity and equality because one of the things that turns in
because one of the things that turns in
because one of the things that turns in applied to theater is it creates
applied to theater is it creates
applied to theater is it creates platforms for reflection and change and
platforms for reflection and change and
platforms for reflection and change and sometimes those people who we don’t want
sometimes those people who we don’t want
sometimes those people who we don’t want to retrench into positions of we’re
to retrench into positions of we’re
to retrench into positions of we’re doing this we’ve got policies we’re
doing this we’ve got policies we’re
doing this we’ve got policies we’re doing everything I’ve got some my best
doing everything I’ve got some my best
doing everything I’ve got some my best friends are we don’t want that that’s
friends are we don’t want that that’s
friends are we don’t want that that’s not productive what we want is them to
not productive what we want is them to
not productive what we want is them to be alongside us those people whose
be alongside us those people whose
be alongside us those people whose bodies are speaking for them for
bodies are speaking for them for
bodies are speaking for them for whatever reason in increasing
whatever reason in increasing
whatever reason in increasing inclusivity so what do I mean it took
inclusivity so what do I mean it took
inclusivity so what do I mean it took stand-up comedian to make me aware that
stand-up comedian to make me aware that
stand-up comedian to make me aware that a disabled toilet is a toilet that’s
a disabled toilet is a toilet that’s
a disabled toilet is a toilet that’s broken it’s not a toilet that everybody
broken it’s not a toilet that everybody
broken it’s not a toilet that everybody can use so one of the things that we can
can use so one of the things that we can
can use so one of the things that we can do is think about the language that we
do is think about the language that we
do is think about the language that we use and I don’t want to sound like one
use and I don’t want to sound like one
use and I don’t want to sound like one of those inspirational life coaches but
of those inspirational life coaches but
of those inspirational life coaches but the mic really helps
and I’m minded of those folk posters
and I’m minded of those folk posters with cats and writing on but perhaps we
with cats and writing on but perhaps we
with cats and writing on but perhaps we should be the change that we want to see
should be the change that we want to see
should be the change that we want to see perhaps we can do that so if you are
perhaps we can do that so if you are
perhaps we can do that so if you are already enrolled in an academic journey
already enrolled in an academic journey
already enrolled in an academic journey and you’re feeling well you know I’m not
and you’re feeling well you know I’m not
and you’re feeling well you know I’m not fully represented in the curriculums
fully represented in the curriculums
fully represented in the curriculums that I’m studying or the theorists that
that I’m studying or the theorists that
that I’m studying or the theorists that I’m encountering bring them to the table
I’m encountering bring them to the table
I’m encountering bring them to the table bring the feminist sociologist bring the
bring the feminist sociologist bring the
bring the feminist sociologist bring the black academics bring the working-class
black academics bring the working-class
black academics bring the working-class academics into your work because there’s
academics into your work because there’s
academics into your work because there’s a possibility that some of those
a possibility that some of those
a possibility that some of those academics who are marking your work may
academics who are marking your work may
academics who are marking your work may not have come across them and may be
not have come across them and may be
not have come across them and may be inspired by them in the way that you are
inspired by them in the way that you are
inspired by them in the way that you are and therefore might integrate them into
and therefore might integrate them into
and therefore might integrate them into the systems I would invite you to just
the systems I would invite you to just
the systems I would invite you to just play those mental exercises of auditing
play those mental exercises of auditing
play those mental exercises of auditing can’t quite see the room I’m just doing
can’t quite see the room I’m just doing
can’t quite see the room I’m just doing a quick diversity check all right let’s
a quick diversity check all right let’s
a quick diversity check all right let’s not get upset but we should all think
not get upset but we should all think
not get upset but we should all think about it when I go to the theatre I do
about it when I go to the theatre I do
about it when I go to the theatre I do it often when I go to academic
it often when I go to academic
it often when I go to academic conferences I do often so we should
conferences I do often so we should
conferences I do often so we should begin to question that we can be the
begin to question that we can be the
begin to question that we can be the change that we’d like to see and there
change that we’d like to see and there
change that we’d like to see and there is definitely an urgent need for this
is definitely an urgent need for this
is definitely an urgent need for this only this morning reports about a
only this morning reports about a
only this morning reports about a dashboard camera of a law enforcement
dashboard camera of a law enforcement
dashboard camera of a law enforcement officer catching comments that they made
officer catching comments that they made
officer catching comments that they made mean that we really really need to ask
mean that we really really need to ask
mean that we really really need to ask those simple questions and then maybe
those simple questions and then maybe
those simple questions and then maybe just maybe the answers will not be so
just maybe the answers will not be so
just maybe the answers will not be so complicated
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