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my talk is about asking some simple

my talk is about asking some simple questions about inclusion and equality

questions about inclusion and equality

questions about inclusion and equality and to invite you to engage with me in

and to invite you to engage with me in

and to invite you to engage with me in trying to understand why the asking of

trying to understand why the asking of

trying to understand why the asking of those questions generates complicated

those questions generates complicated

those questions generates complicated answers um my argument is that we should

answers um my argument is that we should

answers um my argument is that we should reclaim the term inclusion if we are

reclaim the term inclusion if we are

reclaim the term inclusion if we are serious about equality’s because

serious about equality’s because

serious about equality’s because diversity is only a part of the story

diversity is only a part of the story

diversity is only a part of the story diversity is about audit whereas

diversity is about audit whereas

diversity is about audit whereas inclusion is about action so here’s the

inclusion is about action so here’s the

inclusion is about action so here’s the thing you know when you’re at a party

thing you know when you’re at a party

thing you know when you’re at a party and you meet someone that you don’t know

and you meet someone that you don’t know

and you meet someone that you don’t know and they’re interested in you and they

and they’re interested in you and they

and they’re interested in you and they want to find out more for a simple

want to find out more for a simple

want to find out more for a simple question they ask you what do you do

question they ask you what do you do

question they ask you what do you do okay seems like there will be a simple

okay seems like there will be a simple

okay seems like there will be a simple answer to that question I say I work at

answer to that question I say I work at

answer to that question I say I work at a university I’m an academic we’re in

a university I’m an academic we’re in

a university I’m an academic we’re in good ground yeah

good ground yeah

good ground yeah but some people would say and I agree

but some people would say and I agree

but some people would say and I agree with them but that’s not the end of the

with them but that’s not the end of the

with them but that’s not the end of the story

story

story and for me for this body I have to say

and for me for this body I have to say

and for me for this body I have to say something else I have to say that I am a

something else I have to say that I am a

something else I have to say that I am a black academic or an academic who is

black academic or an academic who is

black academic or an academic who is black and that’s not just playing with

black and that’s not just playing with

black and that’s not just playing with words it’s opening the door to something

words it’s opening the door to something

words it’s opening the door to something which is significant because this body

which is significant because this body

which is significant because this body speaks for me in ways that sometimes I

speaks for me in ways that sometimes I

speaks for me in ways that sometimes I cannot control and so there is an

cannot control and so there is an

cannot control and so there is an argument that says I cannot simply be an

argument that says I cannot simply be an

argument that says I cannot simply be an academic so I’m a black academic working

academic so I’m a black academic working

academic so I’m a black academic working in a predominantly white Academy it’s

in a predominantly white Academy it’s

in a predominantly white Academy it’s there a park now and we’ll come back to

there a park now and we’ll come back to

there a park now and we’ll come back to it later when I applied for this talk

it later when I applied for this talk

it later when I applied for this talk some of the political situations that

some of the political situations that

some of the political situations that we’re seeing on the various news feeds

we’re seeing on the various news feeds

we’re seeing on the various news feeds across the world hadn’t taken place and

across the world hadn’t taken place and

across the world hadn’t taken place and I think now there’s all the more reason

I think now there’s all the more reason

I think now there’s all the more reason for us to consider bringing back the

for us to consider bringing back the

for us to consider bringing back the notion of inclusion into what we do a

notion of inclusion into what we do a

notion of inclusion into what we do a word about black academics there aren’t

word about black academics there aren’t

word about black academics there aren’t very many and a colleague’s has likened

very many and a colleague’s has likened

very many and a colleague’s has likened them to hen’s teeth and for those that

them to hen’s teeth and for those that

them to hen’s teeth and for those that don’t know hens don’t have teeth yeah so

don’t know hens don’t have teeth yeah so

don’t know hens don’t have teeth yeah so some statistics to back up what I mean

some statistics to back up what I mean

some statistics to back up what I mean in 2009 of the 14,000 professors in

in 2009 of the 14,000 professors in

in 2009 of the 14,000 professors in universities across the UK 50 were black

universities across the UK 50 were black

universities across the UK 50 were black which is about one in 285 something like

which is about one in 285 something like

which is about one in 285 something like that and in the 2016 survey of higher

that and in the 2016 survey of higher

that and in the 2016 survey of higher education how many senior managers of

education how many senior managers of

education how many senior managers of universities were black simple question

universities were black simple question

universities were black simple question answer zero now it might seem that when

answer zero now it might seem that when

answer zero now it might seem that when I give you that information that I’ve

I give you that information that I’ve

I give you that information that I’ve located myself in a position of judgment

located myself in a position of judgment

located myself in a position of judgment as a person from a minority

as a person from a minority

as a person from a minority I’m giving statistics that allows me to

I’m giving statistics that allows me to

I’m giving statistics that allows me to pass judgment on a predominantly white

pass judgment on a predominantly white

pass judgment on a predominantly white audience that’s not my intention but

audience that’s not my intention but

audience that’s not my intention but what it does trigger is a feeling I

what it does trigger is a feeling I

what it does trigger is a feeling I can’t lie when I did hear the odd sorry

can’t lie when I did hear the odd sorry

can’t lie when I did hear the odd sorry well if there’s discomfiture in you in

well if there’s discomfiture in you in

well if there’s discomfiture in you in the audience hearing those statistics

the audience hearing those statistics

the audience hearing those statistics there is discomfiture in me sharing them

there is discomfiture in me sharing them

there is discomfiture in me sharing them with you and that’s one of the really

with you and that’s one of the really

with you and that’s one of the really interesting things about work around

interesting things about work around

interesting things about work around inclusion and diversity one of the major

inclusion and diversity one of the major

inclusion and diversity one of the major elements that’s in it is emotion its

elements that’s in it is emotion its

elements that’s in it is emotion its emotion the power has been using for

emotion the power has been using for

emotion the power has been using for centuries to keep those different groups

centuries to keep those different groups

centuries to keep those different groups in their place and obviously I’m talking

in their place and obviously I’m talking

in their place and obviously I’m talking about ethnicity here it’s one of the

about ethnicity here it’s one of the

about ethnicity here it’s one of the elements of my body that speaks the

elements of my body that speaks the

elements of my body that speaks the loudest we could be talking about any

loudest we could be talking about any

loudest we could be talking about any other trigger which keeps people

other trigger which keeps people

other trigger which keeps people excluded but for this talk I’m going to

excluded but for this talk I’m going to

excluded but for this talk I’m going to talk about ethnicity okay so the theme

talk about ethnicity okay so the theme

talk about ethnicity okay so the theme of this TEDx is the next stage so my

of this TEDx is the next stage so my

of this TEDx is the next stage so my question hopefully a simple question is

question hopefully a simple question is

question hopefully a simple question is what is the next stage for higher

what is the next stage for higher

what is the next stage for higher education what is it that universities

education what is it that universities

education what is it that universities need to do to increase inclusion and

need to do to increase inclusion and

need to do to increase inclusion and equality so it would be remiss of me

equality so it would be remiss of me

equality so it would be remiss of me seeing as we are in a school of speech

seeing as we are in a school of speech

seeing as we are in a school of speech and drama to not mention some other

and drama to not mention some other

and drama to not mention some other research recently the acting up research

research recently the acting up research

research recently the acting up research that was done by Tracy Bhavan MP and

that was done by Tracy Bhavan MP and

that was done by Tracy Bhavan MP and others talked about those people from

others talked about those people from

others talked about those people from different minority situations that were

different minority situations that were

different minority situations that were not being represented in film and

not being represented in film and

not being represented in film and television and theatre and also a more

television and theatre and also a more

television and theatre and also a more globalized piece of research which is

globalized piece of research which is

globalized piece of research which is important to this argument talked about

important to this argument talked about

important to this argument talked about segregation in UK universities and by

segregation in UK universities and by

segregation in UK universities and by that this was research that was done by

that this was research that was done by

that this was research that was done by the University of Bath by that I mean

the University of Bath by that I mean

the University of Bath by that I mean the self segregation of students from

the self segregation of students from

the self segregation of students from ethnic minorities in their selection of

ethnic minorities in their selection of

ethnic minorities in their selection of universities and the research revealed

universities and the research revealed

universities and the research revealed that students from ethnic minorities

that students from ethnic minorities

that students from ethnic minorities looked at their current demography of

looked at their current demography of

looked at their current demography of the student body when they were applying

the student body when they were applying

the student body when they were applying to universities yeah well that seems

to universities yeah well that seems

to universities yeah well that seems reasonable but if you consider this if

reasonable but if you consider this if

reasonable but if you consider this if you think about some of our more

you think about some of our more

you think about some of our more august’s schools of learning they may

august’s schools of learning they may

august’s schools of learning they may not be that diverse so there is a

not be that diverse so there is a

not be that diverse so there is a vicious cycle that is set into being

vicious cycle that is set into being

vicious cycle that is set into being where students method minorities look at

where students method minorities look at

where students method minorities look at those universities and one of their

those universities and one of their

those universities and one of their major fears was if I go to that

major fears was if I go to that

major fears was if I go to that institution will I experience racism so

institution will I experience racism so

institution will I experience racism so therefore I won’t go there

therefore I won’t go there

therefore I won’t go there and I think that notion that

and I think that notion that

and I think that notion that internalized concern coming from the

internalized concern coming from the

internalized concern coming from the person who is the minority is one of the

person who is the minority is one of the

person who is the minority is one of the things that I want to challenge when I’m

things that I want to challenge when I’m

things that I want to challenge when I’m talking about the term diversity there’s

talking about the term diversity there’s

talking about the term diversity there’s what does it really mean if you were to

what does it really mean if you were to

what does it really mean if you were to put me that’s that that black academic

put me that’s that that black academic

put me that’s that that black academic in a room with a hundred ninety nine

in a room with a hundred ninety nine

in a room with a hundred ninety nine white academics it’s a diverse

white academics it’s a diverse

white academics it’s a diverse environment

but is it an inclusive environment I

but is it an inclusive environment I would say not so what we need to

would say not so what we need to

would say not so what we need to consider are the ways in which we can

consider are the ways in which we can

consider are the ways in which we can postulate those simple questions in a

postulate those simple questions in a

postulate those simple questions in a way that the emotion and the judgment

way that the emotion and the judgment

way that the emotion and the judgment isn’t necessarily there now I’m no

isn’t necessarily there now I’m no

isn’t necessarily there now I’m no expert in inclusivity and equalities but

expert in inclusivity and equalities but

expert in inclusivity and equalities but I have gone through the years research

I have gone through the years research

I have gone through the years research as being a black person in a black body

as being a black person in a black body

as being a black person in a black body and I’m bringing that to the fore now

and I’m bringing that to the fore now

and I’m bringing that to the fore now because if I’m really honest with you

because if I’m really honest with you

because if I’m really honest with you looking like this and having my body

looking like this and having my body

looking like this and having my body speak about me in the way it does one of

speak about me in the way it does one of

speak about me in the way it does one of the last things I wanted to do as a

the last things I wanted to do as a

the last things I wanted to do as a researcher was look at issues of

researcher was look at issues of

researcher was look at issues of inclusivity I didn’t want to be the

inclusivity I didn’t want to be the

inclusivity I didn’t want to be the person that when I walked into the room

person that when I walked into the room

person that when I walked into the room and people knew what my research was

and people knew what my research was

and people knew what my research was they would go oh I could see were you

they would go oh I could see were you

they would go oh I could see were you doing that I didn’t want to be the

doing that I didn’t want to be the

doing that I didn’t want to be the poster boy for inclusivity but if you

poster boy for inclusivity but if you

poster boy for inclusivity but if you step back and look even further my

step back and look even further my

step back and look even further my presence in the Academy meant that meant

presence in the Academy meant that meant

presence in the Academy meant that meant that I was doing some kind of diversity

that I was doing some kind of diversity

that I was doing some kind of diversity work already I wasn’t doing the

work already I wasn’t doing the

work already I wasn’t doing the diversity potentially I was the

diversity potentially I was the

diversity potentially I was the diversity and that’s not ideal so one of

diversity and that’s not ideal so one of

diversity and that’s not ideal so one of the things I considered was I had to

the things I considered was I had to

the things I considered was I had to move past that poster boy stuff and had

move past that poster boy stuff and had

move past that poster boy stuff and had to move past that discomfiture and begin

to move past that discomfiture and begin

to move past that discomfiture and begin to ask those simple questions how can we

to ask those simple questions how can we

to ask those simple questions how can we make this place more diverse whatever

make this place more diverse whatever

make this place more diverse whatever that place Eve so that’s what I’m doing

that place Eve so that’s what I’m doing

that place Eve so that’s what I’m doing now but before doing that I was doing

now but before doing that I was doing

now but before doing that I was doing some other practice it’s called applied

some other practice it’s called applied

some other practice it’s called applied theatre and for those who aren’t

theatre and for those who aren’t

theatre and for those who aren’t necessarily okay with it it’s the use of

necessarily okay with it it’s the use of

necessarily okay with it it’s the use of theatrical practices outside of a

theatrical practices outside of a

theatrical practices outside of a theatre environment and what’s

theatre environment and what’s

theatre environment and what’s interesting about it is that it often

interesting about it is that it often

interesting about it is that it often works with participants who are the same

works with participants who are the same

works with participants who are the same participants who are experiencing

participants who are experiencing

participants who are experiencing exclusion and marginality and

exclusion and marginality and

exclusion and marginality and additionally applied theatre tends to

additionally applied theatre tends to

additionally applied theatre tends to work in environments where it hasn’t set

work in environments where it hasn’t set

work in environments where it hasn’t set out the rules of engagement

out the rules of engagement

out the rules of engagement so there was this synergy between work

so there was this synergy between work

so there was this synergy between work around diversity and inclusion and work

around diversity and inclusion and work

around diversity and inclusion and work around applied theater

around applied theater

around applied theater I might bugbear who thought you’d hear

I might bugbear who thought you’d hear

I might bugbear who thought you’d hear bugbear on a Friday morning my bugbear

bugbear on a Friday morning my bugbear

bugbear on a Friday morning my bugbear with the term diversity is that it

with the term diversity is that it

with the term diversity is that it doesn’t ask the question and I can

doesn’t ask the question and I can

doesn’t ask the question and I can understand why diversity is a term which

understand why diversity is a term which

understand why diversity is a term which has gained more and more traction

has gained more and more traction

has gained more and more traction because for those people working in

because for those people working in

because for those people working in diversity talking about in quality

diversity talking about in quality

diversity talking about in quality equality and inclusion triggers

equality and inclusion triggers

equality and inclusion triggers responses both in the speaker and the

responses both in the speaker and the

responses both in the speaker and the listener and reading the work of Sarah

listener and reading the work of Sarah

listener and reading the work of Sarah are made and others I could only agree

are made and others I could only agree

are made and others I could only agree when I say when I see and say those

when I say when I see and say those

when I say when I see and say those ideas about what what about inclusion

ideas about what what about inclusion

ideas about what what about inclusion and there is a collective sigh and a

and there is a collective sigh and a

and there is a collective sigh and a rolling of eyes amongst some in the room

rolling of eyes amongst some in the room

rolling of eyes amongst some in the room those people who may not be as vested in

those people who may not be as vested in

those people who may not be as vested in issues of inclusivity inequalities as

issues of inclusivity inequalities as

issues of inclusivity inequalities as those people who because of their bodies

those people who because of their bodies

those people who because of their bodies it speaks loudly for them and in that

it speaks loudly for them and in that

it speaks loudly for them and in that way the term diversity is slightly more

way the term diversity is slightly more

way the term diversity is slightly more palatable it’s slightly easier it also

palatable it’s slightly easier it also

palatable it’s slightly easier it also runs the risk of becoming something that

runs the risk of becoming something that

runs the risk of becoming something that is done yeah we’re doing what we’re

is done yeah we’re doing what we’re

is done yeah we’re doing what we’re doing diversity we’ve got lots of

doing diversity we’ve got lots of

doing diversity we’ve got lots of policies we are we’re all over diversity

policies we are we’re all over diversity

policies we are we’re all over diversity okay and that’s one of the simple

okay and that’s one of the simple

okay and that’s one of the simple questions that I’d like to challenge

questions that I’d like to challenge

questions that I’d like to challenge what does all-over diversity mean and is

what does all-over diversity mean and is

what does all-over diversity mean and is all-over diversity inclusivity now one

all-over diversity inclusivity now one

all-over diversity inclusivity now one of the ideas about change that I’m

of the ideas about change that I’m

of the ideas about change that I’m thinking about comes from the Japanese

thinking about comes from the Japanese

thinking about comes from the Japanese ceramic art of kansui for those that may

ceramic art of kansui for those that may

ceramic art of kansui for those that may not know

kansui is what happens when you have a

kansui is what happens when you have a precious object ceramic object and it’s

precious object ceramic object and it’s

precious object ceramic object and it’s broken

broken

broken kansui is the act of repairing that

kansui is the act of repairing that

kansui is the act of repairing that object but repairing it with gold so

object but repairing it with gold so

object but repairing it with gold so that the new repaired object has a MOT

that the new repaired object has a MOT

that the new repaired object has a MOT has a stronger material value than it

has a stronger material value than it

has a stronger material value than it did before it was broken and why I was

did before it was broken and why I was

did before it was broken and why I was drawn to consume it was this one of the

drawn to consume it was this one of the

drawn to consume it was this one of the things I believe we should be

things I believe we should be

things I believe we should be considering is bringing our kansui

considering is bringing our kansui

considering is bringing our kansui to issues of diversity equality and

to issues of diversity equality and

to issues of diversity equality and inclusion if there are people who don’t

inclusion if there are people who don’t

inclusion if there are people who don’t consider equality and inclusion

consider equality and inclusion

consider equality and inclusion significant how could we draw them as

significant how could we draw them as

significant how could we draw them as stakeholders into the conversation

stakeholders into the conversation

stakeholders into the conversation because sometimes just calling people to

because sometimes just calling people to

because sometimes just calling people to account creates a stepping back a

account creates a stepping back a

account creates a stepping back a retrenchment and a defensive set of

retrenchment and a defensive set of

retrenchment and a defensive set of behaviors that are not productive as I

behaviors that are not productive as I

behaviors that are not productive as I said I think diversity is about audit

said I think diversity is about audit

said I think diversity is about audit inclusivity is about action and I would

inclusivity is about action and I would

inclusivity is about action and I would include all those people who are parts

include all those people who are parts

include all those people who are parts of the majorities of whatever majority I

of the majorities of whatever majority I

of the majorities of whatever majority I know there’s a massive intersection here

know there’s a massive intersection here

know there’s a massive intersection here to be part of that conversation and

to be part of that conversation and

to be part of that conversation and that’s where my consumer is for me if we

that’s where my consumer is for me if we

that’s where my consumer is for me if we can somehow draw attention to the fact

can somehow draw attention to the fact

can somehow draw attention to the fact that as a body we are interested in

that as a body we are interested in

that as a body we are interested in issues of inclusion and equality we are

issues of inclusion and equality we are

issues of inclusion and equality we are beginning to offer the conversation in a

beginning to offer the conversation in a

beginning to offer the conversation in a different range of ways what do I mean

different range of ways what do I mean

different range of ways what do I mean well I mean it’s things that we can do

well I mean it’s things that we can do

well I mean it’s things that we can do often those people who are interested

often those people who are interested

often those people who are interested about diversity equalities and inclusion

about diversity equalities and inclusion

about diversity equalities and inclusion look to institutions to change it’s not

look to institutions to change it’s not

look to institutions to change it’s not a bad start if you go back to the

a bad start if you go back to the

a bad start if you go back to the statistics I mentioned universities can

statistics I mentioned universities can

statistics I mentioned universities can do some things but as individuals in

do some things but as individuals in

do some things but as individuals in universities and as a black academic I’m

universities and as a black academic I’m

universities and as a black academic I’m reminded of the work of feminist

reminded of the work of feminist

reminded of the work of feminist researcher Janice Raymond who talks

researcher Janice Raymond who talks

researcher Janice Raymond who talks about women in business and she says

about women in business and she says

about women in business and she says that women in business are often

that women in business are often

that women in business are often inside Outsiders not of the system but

inside Outsiders not of the system but

inside Outsiders not of the system but somehow accepted in a way that gives

somehow accepted in a way that gives

somehow accepted in a way that gives them a different kind of agency and I

them a different kind of agency and I

them a different kind of agency and I would say as a black academic in a

would say as a black academic in a

would say as a black academic in a predominantly white Academy I’m an

predominantly white Academy I’m an

predominantly white Academy I’m an inside outsider and that inside outsider

inside outsider and that inside outsider

inside outsider and that inside outsider Ness gives me an opportunity to use my

insurgent applied theater practice

insurgent applied theater practice because that’s what I argue applied

because that’s what I argue applied

because that’s what I argue applied theater can be

theater can be

theater can be it’s not often codified by the people

it’s not often codified by the people

it’s not often codified by the people who commissioned it and it does all

who commissioned it and it does all

who commissioned it and it does all kinds of things like the amazing

kinds of things like the amazing

kinds of things like the amazing transformation and changes that you’ve

transformation and changes that you’ve

transformation and changes that you’ve heard from speakers earlier so what

heard from speakers earlier so what

heard from speakers earlier so what happens if we bring that insurgency into

happens if we bring that insurgency into

happens if we bring that insurgency into issues of inclusivity and equality

issues of inclusivity and equality

issues of inclusivity and equality because one of the things that turns in

because one of the things that turns in

because one of the things that turns in applied to theater is it creates

applied to theater is it creates

applied to theater is it creates platforms for reflection and change and

platforms for reflection and change and

platforms for reflection and change and sometimes those people who we don’t want

sometimes those people who we don’t want

sometimes those people who we don’t want to retrench into positions of we’re

to retrench into positions of we’re

to retrench into positions of we’re doing this we’ve got policies we’re

doing this we’ve got policies we’re

doing this we’ve got policies we’re doing everything I’ve got some my best

doing everything I’ve got some my best

doing everything I’ve got some my best friends are we don’t want that that’s

friends are we don’t want that that’s

friends are we don’t want that that’s not productive what we want is them to

not productive what we want is them to

not productive what we want is them to be alongside us those people whose

be alongside us those people whose

be alongside us those people whose bodies are speaking for them for

bodies are speaking for them for

bodies are speaking for them for whatever reason in increasing

whatever reason in increasing

whatever reason in increasing inclusivity so what do I mean it took

inclusivity so what do I mean it took

inclusivity so what do I mean it took stand-up comedian to make me aware that

stand-up comedian to make me aware that

stand-up comedian to make me aware that a disabled toilet is a toilet that’s

a disabled toilet is a toilet that’s

a disabled toilet is a toilet that’s broken it’s not a toilet that everybody

broken it’s not a toilet that everybody

broken it’s not a toilet that everybody can use so one of the things that we can

can use so one of the things that we can

can use so one of the things that we can do is think about the language that we

do is think about the language that we

do is think about the language that we use and I don’t want to sound like one

use and I don’t want to sound like one

use and I don’t want to sound like one of those inspirational life coaches but

of those inspirational life coaches but

of those inspirational life coaches but the mic really helps

and I’m minded of those folk posters

and I’m minded of those folk posters with cats and writing on but perhaps we

with cats and writing on but perhaps we

with cats and writing on but perhaps we should be the change that we want to see

should be the change that we want to see

should be the change that we want to see perhaps we can do that so if you are

perhaps we can do that so if you are

perhaps we can do that so if you are already enrolled in an academic journey

already enrolled in an academic journey

already enrolled in an academic journey and you’re feeling well you know I’m not

and you’re feeling well you know I’m not

and you’re feeling well you know I’m not fully represented in the curriculums

fully represented in the curriculums

fully represented in the curriculums that I’m studying or the theorists that

that I’m studying or the theorists that

that I’m studying or the theorists that I’m encountering bring them to the table

I’m encountering bring them to the table

I’m encountering bring them to the table bring the feminist sociologist bring the

bring the feminist sociologist bring the

bring the feminist sociologist bring the black academics bring the working-class

black academics bring the working-class

black academics bring the working-class academics into your work because there’s

academics into your work because there’s

academics into your work because there’s a possibility that some of those

a possibility that some of those

a possibility that some of those academics who are marking your work may

academics who are marking your work may

academics who are marking your work may not have come across them and may be

not have come across them and may be

not have come across them and may be inspired by them in the way that you are

inspired by them in the way that you are

inspired by them in the way that you are and therefore might integrate them into

and therefore might integrate them into

and therefore might integrate them into the systems I would invite you to just

the systems I would invite you to just

the systems I would invite you to just play those mental exercises of auditing

play those mental exercises of auditing

play those mental exercises of auditing can’t quite see the room I’m just doing

can’t quite see the room I’m just doing

can’t quite see the room I’m just doing a quick diversity check all right let’s

a quick diversity check all right let’s

a quick diversity check all right let’s not get upset but we should all think

not get upset but we should all think

not get upset but we should all think about it when I go to the theatre I do

about it when I go to the theatre I do

about it when I go to the theatre I do it often when I go to academic

it often when I go to academic

it often when I go to academic conferences I do often so we should

conferences I do often so we should

conferences I do often so we should begin to question that we can be the

begin to question that we can be the

begin to question that we can be the change that we’d like to see and there

change that we’d like to see and there

change that we’d like to see and there is definitely an urgent need for this

is definitely an urgent need for this

is definitely an urgent need for this only this morning reports about a

only this morning reports about a

only this morning reports about a dashboard camera of a law enforcement

dashboard camera of a law enforcement

dashboard camera of a law enforcement officer catching comments that they made

officer catching comments that they made

officer catching comments that they made mean that we really really need to ask

mean that we really really need to ask

mean that we really really need to ask those simple questions and then maybe

those simple questions and then maybe

those simple questions and then maybe just maybe the answers will not be so

just maybe the answers will not be so

just maybe the answers will not be so complicated

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