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The Currency of Trust | Ben Pankonin | TEDxLincoln


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[Music] like many entrepreneurs I grew up in a

like many entrepreneurs I grew up in a

like many entrepreneurs I grew up in a family of small business owners in fact

family of small business owners in fact

family of small business owners in fact my parents bought a retail store on my

my parents bought a retail store on my

my parents bought a retail store on my seventh birthday but it wasn’t just any

seventh birthday but it wasn’t just any

seventh birthday but it wasn’t just any store it was a Hallmark store literally

store it was a Hallmark store literally

store it was a Hallmark store literally everyone I knew growing up cared enough

everyone I knew growing up cared enough

everyone I knew growing up cared enough to send the very best so when I ventured

to send the very best so when I ventured

to send the very best so when I ventured out into the business world helping to

out into the business world helping to

out into the business world helping to build companies I quickly found that not

build companies I quickly found that not

build companies I quickly found that not everybody cared this much in fact I was

everybody cared this much in fact I was

everybody cared this much in fact I was bought out of a business for $35 before

bought out of a business for $35 before

bought out of a business for $35 before being fired and I watched as disgruntled

being fired and I watched as disgruntled

being fired and I watched as disgruntled business partners sent letters from

business partners sent letters from

business partners sent letters from their attorneys to the offices next door

their attorneys to the offices next door

their attorneys to the offices next door to them and I’ve experienced the

to them and I’ve experienced the

to them and I’ve experienced the betrayal of embezzlement from somebody I

betrayal of embezzlement from somebody I

betrayal of embezzlement from somebody I considered a friend but all this caused

considered a friend but all this caused

considered a friend but all this caused me to evaluate the role that Trust plays

me to evaluate the role that Trust plays

me to evaluate the role that Trust plays and it’s nothing like you expect it to

and it’s nothing like you expect it to

and it’s nothing like you expect it to be Trust is not a measure of how many

be Trust is not a measure of how many

be Trust is not a measure of how many customers a business has there are

customers a business has there are

customers a business has there are plenty of companies with thousands of

plenty of companies with thousands of

plenty of companies with thousands of customers that don’t even want to do

customers that don’t even want to do

customers that don’t even want to do business with them but there are a few

business with them but there are a few

business with them but there are a few companies that are truly loved and we

companies that are truly loved and we

companies that are truly loved and we can represent the value of trust we see

can represent the value of trust we see

can represent the value of trust we see in a very simple equation first we learn

in a very simple equation first we learn

in a very simple equation first we learn to trust personally through our own

to trust personally through our own

to trust personally through our own interactions and experiences whether

interactions and experiences whether

interactions and experiences whether it’s with a person or a product then we

it’s with a person or a product then we

it’s with a person or a product then we add to or subtract the value we see in a

add to or subtract the value we see in a

add to or subtract the value we see in a brand now these two are actually quite

brand now these two are actually quite

brand now these two are actually quite different for example I may not have

different for example I may not have

different for example I may not have experienced foodborne illness from a

experienced foodborne illness from a

experienced foodborne illness from a restaurant but knowing that others have

restaurant but knowing that others have

restaurant but knowing that others have affects my view of trust in that come in

affects my view of trust in that come in

affects my view of trust in that come in that restaurants brand personal and

that restaurants brand personal and

that restaurants brand personal and brand trust are then multiplied by

brand trust are then multiplied by

brand trust are then multiplied by innovation where we gauge how the

innovation where we gauge how the

innovation where we gauge how the products themselves build trust

products themselves build trust

products themselves build trust typically by their uniqueness

typically by their uniqueness

typically by their uniqueness which we call innovation but in order to

which we call innovation but in order to

which we call innovation but in order to create personal trust businesses

create personal trust businesses

create personal trust businesses typically hire experts and they call

typically hire experts and they call

typically hire experts and they call these experts salespeople now the

these experts salespeople now the

these experts salespeople now the unfortunate reality is that these

unfortunate reality is that these

unfortunate reality is that these assassins of trust often miss their mark

assassins of trust often miss their mark

assassins of trust often miss their mark because because we’re looking for trust

because because we’re looking for trust

because because we’re looking for trust more than we are expertise now you’ve

more than we are expertise now you’ve

more than we are expertise now you’ve probably experienced this I was recently

probably experienced this I was recently

probably experienced this I was recently in another country in which I only spoke

in another country in which I only spoke

in another country in which I only spoke a few words of the language and what do

a few words of the language and what do

a few words of the language and what do you do when you’re lost you look for

you do when you’re lost you look for

you do when you’re lost you look for someone that looks like you do

someone that looks like you do

someone that looks like you do hopefully dresses like you do and and

hopefully dresses like you do and and

hopefully dresses like you do and and hopefully speaks English

hopefully speaks English

hopefully speaks English but in this case I was approached by a

but in this case I was approached by a

but in this case I was approached by a couple as they walked left and right

couple as they walked left and right

couple as they walked left and right down cobblestone streets and as they

down cobblestone streets and as they

down cobblestone streets and as they approached me they were seeking a pub

approached me they were seeking a pub

approached me they were seeking a pub for dinner now I’ve been in Copenhagen

for dinner now I’ve been in Copenhagen

for dinner now I’ve been in Copenhagen for a total of two hours so immediately

for a total of two hours so immediately

for a total of two hours so immediately I became their personal concierge and I

I became their personal concierge and I

I became their personal concierge and I shared with them the full extent of my

shared with them the full extent of my

shared with them the full extent of my knowledge well I actually passed a pub a

knowledge well I actually passed a pub a

knowledge well I actually passed a pub a couple blocks back and I’m confident

couple blocks back and I’m confident

couple blocks back and I’m confident that they went there because you see

that they went there because you see

that they went there because you see people are pursuing trust more than they

people are pursuing trust more than they

people are pursuing trust more than they are a local with expertise but that’s

are a local with expertise but that’s

are a local with expertise but that’s often how we start business

often how we start business

often how we start business relationships looking for familiarity in

relationships looking for familiarity in

relationships looking for familiarity in order to gain knowledge but the way we

order to gain knowledge but the way we

order to gain knowledge but the way we build trust personally is the same

build trust personally is the same

build trust personally is the same whether it’s with a person or a product

whether it’s with a person or a product

whether it’s with a person or a product and psychologists tell us that we walk

and psychologists tell us that we walk

and psychologists tell us that we walk through this progression where we look

through this progression where we look

through this progression where we look at the attraction of the romance stage

at the attraction of the romance stage

at the attraction of the romance stage and the struggle in a power struggle

and the struggle in a power struggle

and the struggle in a power struggle stage and we reach this stage of

stage and we reach this stage of

stage and we reach this stage of stability where we gauge whether or not

stability where we gauge whether or not

stability where we gauge whether or not a product would be reliable and finally

a product would be reliable and finally

a product would be reliable and finally we reach a stage of commitment where

we reach a stage of commitment where

we reach a stage of commitment where we’re willing to invest significantly in

we’re willing to invest significantly in

we’re willing to invest significantly in that product but beyond this stage lies

that product but beyond this stage lies

that product but beyond this stage lies a stage where very few of us venture a

a stage where very few of us venture a

a stage where very few of us venture a stage called co-creation now co-creation

stage called co-creation now co-creation

stage called co-creation now co-creation happens when we as customers take an

happens when we as customers take an

happens when we as customers take an active role in the building of a product

active role in the building of a product

active role in the building of a product and I can think of no better example

and I can think of no better example

and I can think of no better example right now than what some are referring

right now than what some are referring

right now than what some are referring to as the IKEA effect and for those of

to as the IKEA effect and for those of

to as the IKEA effect and for those of you unfamiliar there is a relatively

you unfamiliar there is a relatively

you unfamiliar there is a relatively large Swedish furniture store of which

large Swedish furniture store of which

large Swedish furniture store of which the closest to us is about three hours

the closest to us is about three hours

the closest to us is about three hours that direction and this unusually large

that direction and this unusually large

that direction and this unusually large store creates cheap foreigner

store creates cheap foreigner

store creates cheap foreigner sure that you need to assemble yourself

sure that you need to assemble yourself

sure that you need to assemble yourself that’s correct you upon making your

that’s correct you upon making your

that’s correct you upon making your purchase become an amateur furniture

purchase become an amateur furniture

purchase become an amateur furniture builder using rudimentary tools and

builder using rudimentary tools and

builder using rudimentary tools and stick figure directions but something

stick figure directions but something

stick figure directions but something happens in this process as you are

happens in this process as you are

happens in this process as you are creating this piece you become more

creating this piece you become more

creating this piece you become more attached to it and eventually you look

attached to it and eventually you look

attached to it and eventually you look down at this relatively poorly

down at this relatively poorly

down at this relatively poorly constructed piece of furniture and you

constructed piece of furniture and you

constructed piece of furniture and you tell others I built that

something amazing happens there because

something amazing happens there because we don’t trust people that try to sell

we don’t trust people that try to sell

we don’t trust people that try to sell to us but we do trust people that want

to us but we do trust people that want

to us but we do trust people that want to create with us

to create with us

to create with us you see brands create trust differently

you see brands create trust differently

you see brands create trust differently than people do a brand and it’s very

than people do a brand and it’s very

than people do a brand and it’s very core is a story and every story contains

core is a story and every story contains

core is a story and every story contains certain elements a character setting

certain elements a character setting

certain elements a character setting rising action you know their conclusion

rising action you know their conclusion

rising action you know their conclusion and you remember the story art from

and you remember the story art from

and you remember the story art from school right but most brands do a great

school right but most brands do a great

school right but most brands do a great job of telling the beginning of their

job of telling the beginning of their

job of telling the beginning of their story or they tell you about their

story or they tell you about their

story or they tell you about their characters but and they in general tell

characters but and they in general tell

characters but and they in general tell you a pretty good idea of how the end of

you a pretty good idea of how the end of

you a pretty good idea of how the end of the story works where they tell you

the story works where they tell you

the story works where they tell you about how that product would do things

about how that product would do things

about how that product would do things for you but you see most brands do a

for you but you see most brands do a

for you but you see most brands do a horrible job of telling the middle part

horrible job of telling the middle part

horrible job of telling the middle part of their story and I believe that that’s

of their story and I believe that that’s

of their story and I believe that that’s why we don’t trust them you see most

why we don’t trust them you see most

why we don’t trust them you see most brands aren’t willing to be vulnerable

brands aren’t willing to be vulnerable

brands aren’t willing to be vulnerable with us and tell us about conflict and

with us and tell us about conflict and

with us and tell us about conflict and that’s where we live in the bulk of a

that’s where we live in the bulk of a

that’s where we live in the bulk of a story

story

story you see most marketers above all don’t

you see most marketers above all don’t

you see most marketers above all don’t want to talk about conflict but I

want to talk about conflict but I

want to talk about conflict but I recently visited a restaurant in

recently visited a restaurant in

recently visited a restaurant in Pittsburgh that does just that at the

Pittsburgh that does just that at the

Pittsburgh that does just that at the conflict kitchen they serve conflict and

conflict kitchen they serve conflict and

conflict kitchen they serve conflict and it’s elevated them to a top yelp

it’s elevated them to a top yelp

it’s elevated them to a top yelp reviewed restaurant you see they only

reviewed restaurant you see they only

reviewed restaurant you see they only serve food from countries the u.s. is in

serve food from countries the u.s. is in

serve food from countries the u.s. is in conflict with but that they don’t stop

conflict with but that they don’t stop

conflict with but that they don’t stop there you see they also invite people

there you see they also invite people

there you see they also invite people with connections to those countries to

with connections to those countries to

with connections to those countries to share their stories with patrons you see

share their stories with patrons you see

share their stories with patrons you see is the conflict that has brought them

is the conflict that has brought them

is the conflict that has brought them emotion substance and even customers but

emotion substance and even customers but

emotion substance and even customers but most brands run from these examples in

most brands run from these examples in

most brands run from these examples in their story but in 2002 when mini cooper

their story but in 2002 when mini cooper

their story but in 2002 when mini cooper decided to bring their cars to the

decided to bring their cars to the

decided to bring their cars to the United States people said just one thing

United States people said just one thing

United States people said just one thing about their brand they said those cars

about their brand they said those cars

about their brand they said those cars will never sell here they’re far too

will never sell here they’re far too

will never sell here they’re far too small but rather than run from the

small but rather than run from the

small but rather than run from the action in their story and dodge this

action in their story and dodge this

action in their story and dodge this disadvantage Mini Cooper ran an ad

disadvantage Mini Cooper ran an ad

disadvantage Mini Cooper ran an ad campaign saying it’s not small its mini

campaign saying it’s not small its mini

campaign saying it’s not small its mini see

see

see they broadcast to the market that it was

they broadcast to the market that it was

they broadcast to the market that it was smaller than small and they doubled down

smaller than small and they doubled down

smaller than small and they doubled down engaging in their whole story and they

engaging in their whole story and they

engaging in their whole story and they literally ran billboards with mini

literally ran billboards with mini

literally ran billboards with mini coopers on the top of Suburbans to

coopers on the top of Suburbans to

coopers on the top of Suburbans to emphasize their point you see we crave

emphasize their point you see we crave

emphasize their point you see we crave this kind of authenticity in brands so

this kind of authenticity in brands so

this kind of authenticity in brands so it should come as no surprise to us when

it should come as no surprise to us when

it should come as no surprise to us when a trusted brand of a hundred years gets

a trusted brand of a hundred years gets

a trusted brand of a hundred years gets beat up by a start-up that’s willing to

beat up by a start-up that’s willing to

beat up by a start-up that’s willing to be vulnerable with their story now it

be vulnerable with their story now it

be vulnerable with their story now it could be the world’s leader in sports or

could be the world’s leader in sports or

could be the world’s leader in sports or America’s most trusted car but bragging

America’s most trusted car but bragging

America’s most trusted car but bragging about historical success is not how we

about historical success is not how we

about historical success is not how we build trust in a brand but rather as we

build trust in a brand but rather as we

build trust in a brand but rather as we look to the future we look at how brands

look to the future we look at how brands

look to the future we look at how brands and products themselves create trust see

and products themselves create trust see

and products themselves create trust see today we can connect with a product

today we can connect with a product

today we can connect with a product before it’s ever been built if an

before it’s ever been built if an

before it’s ever been built if an innovator decides to use crowdfunding

innovator decides to use crowdfunding

innovator decides to use crowdfunding they can upload a video submit a

they can upload a video submit a

they can upload a video submit a description and get us to go as far as

description and get us to go as far as

description and get us to go as far as to even invest in that product before

to even invest in that product before

to even invest in that product before it’s been built but innovation is far

it’s been built but innovation is far

it’s been built but innovation is far more than just this kind of explanation

more than just this kind of explanation

more than just this kind of explanation you see I grew up going to the hardware

you see I grew up going to the hardware

you see I grew up going to the hardware store with my father and when we would

store with my father and when we would

store with my father and when we would go to the store he would take great care

go to the store he would take great care

go to the store he would take great care to look for a product that he said was

to look for a product that he said was

to look for a product that he said was built to last and I grew up thinking

built to last and I grew up thinking

built to last and I grew up thinking that a product and it’s very core

that a product and it’s very core

that a product and it’s very core function should be to earn this kind of

function should be to earn this kind of

function should be to earn this kind of a reputation of being built to last that

a reputation of being built to last that

a reputation of being built to last that is that it always performs like it did

is that it always performs like it did

is that it always performs like it did the day it was created but being built

the day it was created but being built

the day it was created but being built to last

to last

to last isn’t what builds trust in products

isn’t what builds trust in products

isn’t what builds trust in products today we don’t buy products for what

today we don’t buy products for what

today we don’t buy products for what they always have been we buy innovations

they always have been we buy innovations

they always have been we buy innovations for what they will be and we wait in

for what they will be and we wait in

for what they will be and we wait in line for the latest Apple iPhone because

line for the latest Apple iPhone because

line for the latest Apple iPhone because of what it will be and we trust

of what it will be and we trust

of what it will be and we trust companies like Apple because we know

companies like Apple because we know

companies like Apple because we know that within a month they’ll release an

that within a month they’ll release an

that within a month they’ll release an update making that product better than

update making that product better than

update making that product better than in the day it launched and technology

in the day it launched and technology

in the day it launched and technology companies have conditioned us with

companies have conditioned us with

companies have conditioned us with pay-as-you-go models these monthly fees

pay-as-you-go models these monthly fees

pay-as-you-go models these monthly fees in direct relationship to their updates

in direct relationship to their updates

in direct relationship to their updates and every time one of us signs up for

and every time one of us signs up for

and every time one of us signs up for one of these subscriptions we’re asking

one of these subscriptions we’re asking

one of these subscriptions we’re asking a technology company to promise to

a technology company to promise to

a technology company to promise to continue to innovate and when I asked my

continue to innovate and when I asked my

continue to innovate and when I asked my Amazon Alexa whether I’m asking her for

Amazon Alexa whether I’m asking her for

Amazon Alexa whether I’m asking her for the weather or I’m asking her to turn on

the weather or I’m asking her to turn on

the weather or I’m asking her to turn on the lights if she wants to gain more

the lights if she wants to gain more

the lights if she wants to gain more trust she can do that by learning a new

trust she can do that by learning a new

trust she can do that by learning a new skill you see

skill you see

skill you see technology companies and most companies

technology companies and most companies

technology companies and most companies stop and ask when will this product be

stop and ask when will this product be

stop and ask when will this product be done but truly innovative companies

done but truly innovative companies

done but truly innovative companies never stop asking their customers for

never stop asking their customers for

never stop asking their customers for feedback knowing that they could be

feedback knowing that they could be

feedback knowing that they could be better tomorrow

better tomorrow

better tomorrow because innovative companies realize

because innovative companies realize

because innovative companies realize that if they stop this promise of

that if they stop this promise of

that if they stop this promise of innovation is broken an innovative

innovation is broken an innovative

innovation is broken an innovative companies realize that they depend on a

companies realize that they depend on a

companies realize that they depend on a social proof that proof being that we

social proof that proof being that we

social proof that proof being that we don’t buy products for products

don’t buy products for products

don’t buy products for products themselves

themselves

themselves you see we buy into a community of

you see we buy into a community of

you see we buy into a community of customers that invest in that product

customers that invest in that product

customers that invest in that product and this community of customers are the

and this community of customers are the

and this community of customers are the same community that builds recipes for

same community that builds recipes for

same community that builds recipes for my patio grill they assemble playlists

my patio grill they assemble playlists

my patio grill they assemble playlists for me on Spotify and they even tell me

for me on Spotify and they even tell me

for me on Spotify and they even tell me which Airbnb I should stay at you see

which Airbnb I should stay at you see

which Airbnb I should stay at you see Trust has always been the hardest and

Trust has always been the hardest and

Trust has always been the hardest and most important thing in business and we

most important thing in business and we

most important thing in business and we don’t need companies creating the latest

don’t need companies creating the latest

don’t need companies creating the latest sales gimmick we need companies being

sales gimmick we need companies being

sales gimmick we need companies being vulnerable with their story willing to

vulnerable with their story willing to

vulnerable with their story willing to pursue constant innovation it’s time we

pursue constant innovation it’s time we

pursue constant innovation it’s time we built more companies that our loved ones

built more companies that our loved ones

built more companies that our loved ones that embrace a currency of trust

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