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Confessions of a Violin Maker | Mike Murray | TEDxSaltLakeCity


I’m here today because I love sound I

I’m here today because I love sound I love to make sound and I love to listen

love to make sound and I love to listen

love to make sound and I love to listen to sound I’m especially curious about

to sound I’m especially curious about

to sound I’m especially curious about how musicians use their instruments and

how musicians use their instruments and

how musicians use their instruments and how the quality of those instruments

how the quality of those instruments

how the quality of those instruments affects their experience while playing

affects their experience while playing

affects their experience while playing my name is Mike Murray and I’m a luthier

my name is Mike Murray and I’m a luthier

my name is Mike Murray and I’m a luthier I specialized in the repair restoration

I specialized in the repair restoration

I specialized in the repair restoration construction and professional setup of

construction and professional setup of

construction and professional setup of the violin family becoming a luthier is

the violin family becoming a luthier is

the violin family becoming a luthier is a crazy experience once I got past the a

a crazy experience once I got past the a

a crazy experience once I got past the a my totally nuts phase which for me it

my totally nuts phase which for me it

my totally nuts phase which for me it took like three years and you know it

took like three years and you know it

took like three years and you know it didn’t really help virtually everybody I

didn’t really help virtually everybody I

didn’t really help virtually everybody I talked to had super supportive views to

talked to had super supportive views to

talked to had super supportive views to share like well that’s a dying industry

or let’s see another one was are you

or let’s see another one was are you gonna do with that when you’re done I

gonna do with that when you’re done I

gonna do with that when you’re done I think my favorite was there any money in

think my favorite was there any money in

think my favorite was there any money in it I get it right I think I’ve heard

it I get it right I think I’ve heard

it I get it right I think I’ve heard them all and I understand the whole idea

them all and I understand the whole idea

them all and I understand the whole idea is totally romantic the question I get

is totally romantic the question I get

is totally romantic the question I get asked now is how how in the world do you

asked now is how how in the world do you

asked now is how how in the world do you become a luthier well the process is

become a luthier well the process is

become a luthier well the process is intense and as I’ve alluded to the most

intense and as I’ve alluded to the most

intense and as I’ve alluded to the most difficult part for me I think was

difficult part for me I think was

difficult part for me I think was getting started it was only after much

getting started it was only after much

getting started it was only after much hesitation self skepticism and

hesitation self skepticism and

hesitation self skepticism and opposition to the idea of being a

opposition to the idea of being a

opposition to the idea of being a totally poor artist for the rest of my

totally poor artist for the rest of my

totally poor artist for the rest of my life that I heated my gut and I began

life that I heated my gut and I began

life that I heated my gut and I began school in September of 2012 I chose to

school in September of 2012 I chose to

school in September of 2012 I chose to attend the violin making School of

attend the violin making School of

attend the violin making School of America in Salt Lake City Utah I chose

America in Salt Lake City Utah I chose

America in Salt Lake City Utah I chose to attend there

to attend there

to attend there because of its rich history renown and

because of its rich history renown and

because of its rich history renown and quality of education toted is one of the

quality of education toted is one of the

quality of education toted is one of the most prestigious instrument making

most prestigious instrument making

most prestigious instrument making institutions in the world it was started

institutions in the world it was started

institutions in the world it was started by pure prayer in 1972 seven years after

by pure prayer in 1972 seven years after

by pure prayer in 1972 seven years after he started his shop in 1965 where he not

he started his shop in 1965 where he not

he started his shop in 1965 where he not only excelled in the repair restoration

only excelled in the repair restoration

only excelled in the repair restoration sale and construction of instruments my

sale and construction of instruments my

sale and construction of instruments my infatuation with instruments began as a

infatuation with instruments began as a

infatuation with instruments began as a young person I took every chance I had

young person I took every chance I had

young person I took every chance I had to acquaint myself with a new instrument

to acquaint myself with a new instrument

to acquaint myself with a new instrument attempting to apply the years of music

attempting to apply the years of music

attempting to apply the years of music education that I’ve had my problem was

education that I’ve had my problem was

education that I’ve had my problem was that I couldn’t pick and stay with just

that I couldn’t pick and stay with just

that I couldn’t pick and stay with just one instrument they were way too many

one instrument they were way too many

one instrument they were way too many sounds to play with however during this

sounds to play with however during this

sounds to play with however during this time I did learn some important lessons

time I did learn some important lessons

time I did learn some important lessons lesson number one

lesson number one

lesson number one nice instruments are easier to play

nice instruments are easier to play

nice instruments are easier to play number two nice instruments

number two nice instruments

number two nice instruments generally speaking sound better lesson

generally speaking sound better lesson

generally speaking sound better lesson number three nice instruments are

number three nice instruments are

number three nice instruments are expensive with some antique instruments

expensive with some antique instruments

expensive with some antique instruments fetching prices of more than fifteen

fetching prices of more than fifteen

fetching prices of more than fifteen million dollars I thought yeah if I ever

million dollars I thought yeah if I ever

million dollars I thought yeah if I ever want a nice instrument I’m gonna have to

want a nice instrument I’m gonna have to

want a nice instrument I’m gonna have to make it myself thank goodness no prior

make it myself thank goodness no prior

make it myself thank goodness no prior woodworking experience is required to

woodworking experience is required to

woodworking experience is required to attend the school the curriculum is

attend the school the curriculum is

attend the school the curriculum is designed to develop and hone the ability

designed to develop and hone the ability

designed to develop and hone the ability of students no matter their skill level

of students no matter their skill level

of students no matter their skill level practical and conceptual woodworking

practical and conceptual woodworking

practical and conceptual woodworking methodology is a constant topic always

methodology is a constant topic always

methodology is a constant topic always with the goal in mind of improving the

with the goal in mind of improving the

with the goal in mind of improving the level of craftsmanship and quality and

level of craftsmanship and quality and

level of craftsmanship and quality and instrument making on the first day of

instrument making on the first day of

instrument making on the first day of school I was welcomed by a pile of wood

school I was welcomed by a pile of wood

school I was welcomed by a pile of wood on my newly assigned desk I had no idea

on my newly assigned desk I had no idea

on my newly assigned desk I had no idea I had no idea what I was getting into

I had no idea what I was getting into

I had no idea what I was getting into and many times over the course of my

and many times over the course of my

and many times over the course of my education there wanted to throw in the

education there wanted to throw in the

education there wanted to throw in the towel

before I began I thought you know it

before I began I thought you know it can’t be that difficult I’d grown up on

can’t be that difficult I’d grown up on

can’t be that difficult I’d grown up on a farm I’d helped build various homes

a farm I’d helped build various homes

a farm I’d helped build various homes I’ve used power tools and regular tools

I’ve used power tools and regular tools

I’ve used power tools and regular tools most of my life I thought it would be

most of my life I thought it would be

most of my life I thought it would be similar to building a birdhouse

similar to building a birdhouse

similar to building a birdhouse you know just one with strings the

you know just one with strings the

you know just one with strings the format of instruction is one on one you

format of instruction is one on one you

format of instruction is one on one you start at the beginning and you complete

start at the beginning and you complete

start at the beginning and you complete each step there’s lots of them to the

each step there’s lots of them to the

each step there’s lots of them to the highest level of quality possible–

highest level of quality possible–

highest level of quality possible– getting permission to move on or often

getting permission to move on or often

getting permission to move on or often start again instructors are there to

start again instructors are there to

start again instructors are there to teach you very carefully about

teach you very carefully about

teach you very carefully about craftsmanship and quality what that

craftsmanship and quality what that

craftsmanship and quality what that means and how it will affect the overall

means and how it will affect the overall

means and how it will affect the overall outcome of your instrument many lessons

outcome of your instrument many lessons

outcome of your instrument many lessons I scarcely understood then and continue

I scarcely understood then and continue

I scarcely understood then and continue to wrap my mind around now

to wrap my mind around now

to wrap my mind around now one such lesson is that of joining

one such lesson is that of joining

one such lesson is that of joining violin plates in the violin family the

violin plates in the violin family the

violin plates in the violin family the top plate and the back plate most often

top plate and the back plate most often

top plate and the back plate most often are two pieces of wood joined together

are two pieces of wood joined together

are two pieces of wood joined together in the center this task is completed

in the center this task is completed

in the center this task is completed using a tool known as a jointer plane by

using a tool known as a jointer plane by

using a tool known as a jointer plane by sliding the edges of the wood against

sliding the edges of the wood against

sliding the edges of the wood against the blade a smooth flat surface is

the blade a smooth flat surface is

the blade a smooth flat surface is created that joint has to be so close

created that joint has to be so close

created that joint has to be so close and so smooth that there’s no gapping

and so smooth that there’s no gapping

and so smooth that there’s no gapping between it and that when you try to rub

between it and that when you try to rub

between it and that when you try to rub those edges together it creates an

those edges together it creates an

those edges together it creates an enormous amount of friction so much so

enormous amount of friction so much so

enormous amount of friction so much so that trying to rub them together is

that trying to rub them together is

that trying to rub them together is really really difficult not an easy task

skills learned during the curriculum are

skills learned during the curriculum are tested at the very end students have to

tested at the very end students have to

tested at the very end students have to take three months out of their life and

take three months out of their life and

take three months out of their life and they build two instruments one is fully

they build two instruments one is fully

they build two instruments one is fully finished and

finished and

finished and varnished while the other is just

varnished while the other is just

varnished while the other is just prepared to be varnished and I have to

prepared to be varnished and I have to

prepared to be varnished and I have to do this away from school away from

do this away from school away from

do this away from school away from instruction it’s a massive massive

instruction it’s a massive massive

instruction it’s a massive massive challenge to complete especially while

challenge to complete especially while

challenge to complete especially while trying to maintain the high standards of

trying to maintain the high standards of

trying to maintain the high standards of quality the violin is an incredibly

quality the violin is an incredibly

quality the violin is an incredibly complex tool one that has changed a lot

complex tool one that has changed a lot

complex tool one that has changed a lot in high-quality instruments the

in high-quality instruments the

in high-quality instruments the standards or the tolerances are

standards or the tolerances are

standards or the tolerances are relatively tight concerning dimension

relatively tight concerning dimension

relatively tight concerning dimension shape size and setup these and other

shape size and setup these and other

shape size and setup these and other structural components have evolved over

structural components have evolved over

structural components have evolved over hundreds of years in response to the

hundreds of years in response to the

hundreds of years in response to the needs of players and composers making

needs of players and composers making

needs of players and composers making instruments louder easier and more

instruments louder easier and more

instruments louder easier and more ergonomic to play upon finishing my

ergonomic to play upon finishing my

ergonomic to play upon finishing my graduation work I excitedly accepted the

graduation work I excitedly accepted the

graduation work I excitedly accepted the opportunity to work at the Pierre and

opportunity to work at the Pierre and

opportunity to work at the Pierre and Sons violin shop working in that shop

Sons violin shop working in that shop

Sons violin shop working in that shop and being exposed to some of the highest

and being exposed to some of the highest

and being exposed to some of the highest quality and most rare antique

quality and most rare antique

quality and most rare antique instruments in the world has helped me

instruments in the world has helped me

instruments in the world has helped me to further understand the AI the idea

to further understand the AI the idea

to further understand the AI the idea behind design and the effort on behalf

behind design and the effort on behalf

behind design and the effort on behalf of luthiers that has gone into

of luthiers that has gone into

of luthiers that has gone into perfecting the violin my first exposure

perfecting the violin my first exposure

perfecting the violin my first exposure into the world of high quality goods was

into the world of high quality goods was

into the world of high quality goods was the violin making school the concept

the violin making school the concept

the violin making school the concept right this idea that an object could be

right this idea that an object could be

right this idea that an object could be designed and then created to last for

designed and then created to last for

designed and then created to last for hundreds of years as a foreign concept

hundreds of years as a foreign concept

hundreds of years as a foreign concept today or so would seem for example how

today or so would seem for example how

today or so would seem for example how many of us are wearing moderately

many of us are wearing moderately

many of us are wearing moderately uncomfortable shoes that cost very

uncomfortable shoes that cost very

uncomfortable shoes that cost very little and soon enough we’ll end up in a

little and soon enough we’ll end up in a

little and soon enough we’ll end up in a landfill the shorts shirt the piece of

landfill the shorts shirt the piece of

landfill the shorts shirt the piece of jewelry the watch the appliance the car

jewelry the watch the appliance the car

jewelry the watch the appliance the car I remember as a young person being

I remember as a young person being

I remember as a young person being introduced into the world of hyper

introduced into the world of hyper

introduced into the world of hyper consumerism from the electronics that I

consumerism from the electronics that I

consumerism from the electronics that I purchased to the clothes that I wore the

purchased to the clothes that I wore the

purchased to the clothes that I wore the cheaper the better and the shorter the

cheaper the better and the shorter the

cheaper the better and the shorter the duration

duration

duration you seemed to be the norm imagine my

you seemed to be the norm imagine my

you seemed to be the norm imagine my surprise when entering the violin school

surprise when entering the violin school

surprise when entering the violin school all of a sudden I was expected to create

all of a sudden I was expected to create

all of a sudden I was expected to create a high-quality work of art that I hoped

a high-quality work of art that I hoped

a high-quality work of art that I hoped would last for centuries not as a

would last for centuries not as a

would last for centuries not as a stationary object either but as a tool

stationary object either but as a tool

stationary object either but as a tool that musicians would use constantly I’ve

that musicians would use constantly I’ve

that musicians would use constantly I’ve experienced the wisdom and this approach

experienced the wisdom and this approach

experienced the wisdom and this approach not only would it help us in creating a

not only would it help us in creating a

not only would it help us in creating a brighter future but the utility that we

brighter future but the utility that we

brighter future but the utility that we experienced when consuming products that

experienced when consuming products that

experienced when consuming products that are better suited for our needs

are better suited for our needs

are better suited for our needs increases products would last longer

increases products would last longer

increases products would last longer cost less over time and the materials

cost less over time and the materials

cost less over time and the materials used in production would decrease not to

used in production would decrease not to

used in production would decrease not to mention our current trend of hyper

mention our current trend of hyper

mention our current trend of hyper consumerism is not sustainable it’s not

what would happen if we re learning

what would happen if we re learning goods were and we consumed only those

goods were and we consumed only those

goods were and we consumed only those Goods it’s an interesting idea one that

Goods it’s an interesting idea one that

Goods it’s an interesting idea one that I’ve learned a little bit about in the

I’ve learned a little bit about in the

I’ve learned a little bit about in the violin world as well how does this all

violin world as well how does this all

violin world as well how does this all translate to sound behind me I have two

translate to sound behind me I have two

translate to sound behind me I have two instruments ones of a higher quality

instruments ones of a higher quality

instruments ones of a higher quality ones of a lower quality but which ones

ones of a lower quality but which ones

ones of a lower quality but which ones the higher quality one I’ll let you

the higher quality one I’ll let you

the higher quality one I’ll let you decide to help illustrate the difference

decide to help illustrate the difference

decide to help illustrate the difference please welcome to the stage Hobe Salazar

please welcome to the stage Hobe Salazar

please welcome to the stage Hobe Salazar Fonseca

ladies and gentlemen quality matters

ladies and gentlemen quality matters thank you

thank you

thank you [Applause]

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