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Derribando barreras culturales. | Claudia Barón | TEDxFulbrightBogotá


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I am I am mestiza my mom and my

dad was today and I was born in bucaramanga

so as a friend of mine says I

i have been doing wyoming that for those

who do not know the Wayuu

we are the most numerous indigenous people

from colombia we are located in the

north of the country and the peninsula of

guajira and part of the territory

Venezuelan

we are approximately 300,000 people

that we are organized in castes or

matriarchal line plans that is to

my house gave it to me

my mom I am epiayú this condition

of mestiza has allowed me to have

direct contact with the two cultures

with Uruguayan and with arizona

Arizona is the term we

wayuu we use to refer to all

those people who are not guayo

practical terms

all of you are or not being and jonás and I

I am Uruguayan the town fell part

of those minorities that having some

customs and a dialect clearly

in front of those of the others they have to

face daily with barriers and

obstacles to achieve simple things

in tremendously complicated but what

happens when this barrier becomes so

that affect the integrity and

life of the people

today I want to tell you a bit about

respect I want to show you 5 scenario

I want to tell you five stories where

those barriers became obstacles

giants and in many cases brought the

situations with situations that do not

they were remediable with consequences that

they were not remediable because I love them

tell me this so that at the end of the

day

you know us and understand us

little better and we can do something good

among all these obstacles that have

what to do with language with listening

with the customs and traditions with the

context and with empathy

I want to start with the obstacle for

barrier larger than any

culture that is the language

for this I want to present you in your

page and rita epi it

they are both members of the community

awá are beautiful people of the

people worth knowing

neither of you speaks said nike I

Spanish about eight years ago

one of her Andalusian daughters fell ill

seriously Andalusian presented a

severe hemorrhage treated in your

ranchería to see that no improvement is

He headed to the hospital of Rivas Acha

it helped week and then it was moved

to the maicao hospital where it lasted almost

one more week

during all this time

they did not have more information of

what was happening with his daughter

the only thing that came to them that they said

is that Andalusia will be fine but

Andalusian died at 32 leaving

six children and in dads with many

questions that at this time I do not know

can remedy the fact that

Andalusia has died but I what

I want to highlight at this moment the

position of rita and lorenzo them in

this moment they do not know what their

day they do not know if they had options if

you had and your daughter was in a

treatment if it was once and it’s a

hereditary condition which has to

take care of their grandchildren now they do not know

nothing of this

they had to settle for thinking

that the doctor who is taking care of

is doing his best effort all

because they do not speak Spanish and the

doctor who treated them and who is

attending physicians did not speak

wayuunaiki I’m telling you this for

we see how important it is to know ourselves

communicate we are not used to that

the language shows us a

so expensive difference between life and

death but it is something that is happening in

the community this happens every day

in the hospitals of La Guajira

so my invitation to you is

that we try to communicate with the

other people

we try to speak his self

language although we do not speak the same

language the next scenario that I want

show has to do with listening the

mom give great advice and do not be

agreeing to them as when it’s happening

the time who was ever told

streets and I heard I was a victim of

streets and listen

They are José Luis Barros and his wife

katherine caught with her children

this is a family that benefits from

program families in action

government

this program gives some benefits not

financial assistance through a

debit card by which they

you can withdraw then one support every two

months

this support serves them to be able to

eat at least one month

about six months ago to jose

Luis lost the card

Obviously busy knowing what

important that is this resource was to

bank to be able to ask for your card there

spoiler with what a shame that is not where it

fix your problem

Jose Luis, not knowing what to do, heard himself

for your rancheria here I have to

make a parenthesis because I arrived

this story telling them the bread but

it turns out that for josé luis to arrive

to the bank

he had to leave his ranchería and

so that it leaves the ranchería has

have to walk a path of

approximately 8 kilometers

it’s as if you will walk from here

to the account he only with the sun

Guajiro and the sand also say yes

is very good and has the

resources you can take a motorcycle is going to

charge 3,000 pesos to take it up

the main road

there he takes a passenger car that

will collect 5,000 pesos round trip and

we certainly when it comes to

riohacha by terms economy deals

to do all your laps then walk

so couple of water bags after

and a sopita because that return is going to

take all day

Jose Luis will have spent more or

minus 20 thousand pesos 20 thousand pesos for a

person who is and a lot a month they come to

200 thousand pesos then to beat him

exercise think about how much you earn

you take out 10 percent and that’s

what it would take them what it would cost them

to you go to the bank

If you were to José Luis,

it is not any and the bank continuing with

the history

I met with such a service

like two months

he told me all this that he got

against you and I was coming to be second

attempt to regain his card there

and what did they say they did not give me no

this number a number 01 8000 when

I saw it as I think it’s pretty

absurd the solution that goes because

a person who does not have the services

basic in your house in a rancheria the

solution they give you is to call a

number 01 8000

obviously the phone in the rancheria

and because these numbers do not come out of a

cell terminate without any solution

for jose Luis and today I did it was another

time her home without a solution for

recover your card

the message of this story is that if

you want to do something for someone

more in your first what are the

needs of that person

what are your facilities what are

your resources what are your

limitations as in your environment

If you do not listen, you run the risk of

be less effective in what you want

do

let’s continue with the customs and identity

it turns out that in the Wayúu community

we have the oral tradition

we passed our customs of

one generation to another orally

for example our lands do not have

title do not have writings but

there is always going to be someone who knows

where a lot ends and where it starts

the other happens the same with our caste

in my diplomas in my ID and

surely in the program that you

have today in your hand I am claudia

male aguilar but I know my family

know and who knows me inside the

community know that I am pie

and I do not need a paper to

prove to them that I am useful

until I go out into the arizona world and I

they ask for it to be able to access a

benefit

usually ask that the card have the

chaste but it turns out that my dad was a

man with last name baron and my

mom was one of surname aguilar miami

who looks at the caste as I said in my

mom

so what we do there we lose

our customs our traditions

she sandra aguilar them prima mía yo

I do not know if you understand the photo I

I understood it when I saw it is the christening

of her when I realized that it was her

I baptize and in front because you

christenings closed their forties

years

she explained that she had already lost her

benefits to health sandra really

I needed that service and it was more than

one month without being able to access health

because I did not have how to prove that

she the Uruguayan was baptized because

inside the christening certificate

I went to his grandmother’s house now

can show that they go but that is not

the solution

that’s not a real solution I think that

instead of leading us to change our

traditions and customs to adjust

to the system the adjustment system for

including us inside him

for example a box in the registry

of birth where one can say

the one that claims that caste belongs

one would be very convenient for the most

of eighty and many geniuses that there are in

Colombia

here we see how the traditional system

Uruguayan and the system would make a

we colliding context

this is another barrier that I

found and for this I want it

I want to show you this time note

Say families to each girl or help

nutrition center where it was attended

it’s the first thing that you

think or feel when in a news

like this one but it is that we do not

we recognize the context of this news

so I think that before issuing a

judgment we must control our

emotions wait a bit and take the

work to know what is happening to

Through what can we see and

I want to explain a bit the context

this news is not all the same but

as usual

imagine the following you are

here in bogota

They have three children and one of their children

sick

it turns out that the hospital closest to

you are in bucaramanga santander a

189 now is the time that more or less

there are many places from the high

guajira to the top cha America where

they can be met only people

a bus leaves a week or a half

transport the week when they are

compliments

let’s imagine let’s continue imagining those that

you are there with your child they end up with

your sick child

his other two children away from the hospital and

a commission of Germans arrives and

says man his son is very ill not

we have to take it but it is that

you do not understand anything because you

does not speak German

many of them do not speak Spanish

so how would you face that

situation what would you do they are going

with your sick child and leave the others

two years without really knowing what they are going to

eat or who will suffer from water

because it’s three hours to walk

bring them water too, you stay

with his children and sends his sick son

with people who do not know whom

he does not understand the difficult situation

it is not the same for you that for me

take our children to the doctor who

for a father or a mother wayús for

who their circumstances are very

different

so I want to invite you before

to make a judgment

and take a definitive position in the

work to know the context of all

the situation and they do not have to be of

agreement at the end of doing is see if not

they have to agree but so

less are going to be better and better

informed and they will have a better basis

to take a position and finally

I want to talk to you a little about empathy

without the context there is no real empathy

for one to put oneself in the shoes of

others have to do it from their

context to make it something real

about two years ago

members of the community and I started

the cap and baron foundation

the foundation wants to provide relief

immediate needs like the

hungry as cold but also looking

sustainable solutions that help us

really to solve these problems that

we have

during these two years we have

carried out different activities with

family acquaintances family business private

Whoever wanted to listen to them and

I wanted to participate has had the

opportunity to do and I got to

think one day that all people

that help us only two are guajiros

because the people who are more

close to us those who see up close

what happens all those who are there

do not support us then the answer that

I found is precisely because

they have been there all the time

they have grown up watching this and they are

situations that have become normal

it’s normal for them that a girl I

I worked in a family house in exchange

of clothes and food as if I did not want

future is better for them to see

the artisans selling their products to

unfair prices and many times and it ‘s

abused by merchants

intermediaries and nothing happens is normal

that tourists come to ask for a discount

the prices my invitation in this case

is for us to look at our lives and see

let’s try to find situations that

soon they became normal is that not

they must be normal

exercise our empathy

I am a marine biologist and therefore I

I find a néstor analogy in the

different ecosystems as they coexist

different species and there are different

relationships between them there is competition

of creation but there are also

relationships where one or more species

benefits and yes or this is given without

that there was an external intervention

those systems would achieve a

balance that would guarantee

permanence of all species

I think that we as individuals and

society we must think what are the

better ways to relate to

people different from us

including us

aguayo

Thank you

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