
isn’t this a glamorous start to my talk this was the mattress that I was
this was the mattress that I was
this was the mattress that I was sleeping on two years ago I was renting
sleeping on two years ago I was renting
sleeping on two years ago I was renting out my own bedroom on Airbnb to a
out my own bedroom on Airbnb to a
out my own bedroom on Airbnb to a different stranger every single week I
different stranger every single week I
different stranger every single week I was working on my own startup on corn I
was working on my own startup on corn I
was working on my own startup on corn I was doing that full-time without a
was doing that full-time without a
was doing that full-time without a salary and I was also teaching
salary and I was also teaching
salary and I was also teaching programming workshops at the weekend and
programming workshops at the weekend and
programming workshops at the weekend and I was doing all of this to make just
I was doing all of this to make just
I was doing all of this to make just enough money to survive in central
enough money to survive in central
enough money to survive in central London while we raised investment for
London while we raised investment for
London while we raised investment for on-court and I endured this
on-court and I endured this
on-court and I endured this uncomfortable and frugal lifestyle for a
uncomfortable and frugal lifestyle for a
uncomfortable and frugal lifestyle for a few months until we did eventually raise
few months until we did eventually raise
few months until we did eventually raise investment for encore and today I read a
investment for encore and today I read a
investment for encore and today I read a team of eight people in London an encore
team of eight people in London an encore
team of eight people in London an encore is home to nearly 25,000 musicians
is home to nearly 25,000 musicians
is home to nearly 25,000 musicians around the UK so this was a challenging
around the UK so this was a challenging
around the UK so this was a challenging and uncomfortable period of my life but
and uncomfortable period of my life but
and uncomfortable period of my life but it wasn’t the first time that I had
it wasn’t the first time that I had
it wasn’t the first time that I had endured sustained discomfort and one of
endured sustained discomfort and one of
endured sustained discomfort and one of the themes today which I’m really you
the themes today which I’m really you
the themes today which I’m really you know happy to be talking about is steps
know happy to be talking about is steps
know happy to be talking about is steps into the unknown and today I want to
into the unknown and today I want to
into the unknown and today I want to share with you a few of the leaps into
share with you a few of the leaps into
share with you a few of the leaps into the unknown that I’ve taken in my life
the unknown that I’ve taken in my life
the unknown that I’ve taken in my life so far and some of the lessons that I’ve
so far and some of the lessons that I’ve
so far and some of the lessons that I’ve learned from those the key idea I’m
learned from those the key idea I’m
learned from those the key idea I’m going to talk about today is that you
going to talk about today is that you
going to talk about today is that you should surround yourself with people
should surround yourself with people
should surround yourself with people better than you I will come back to this
better than you I will come back to this
better than you I will come back to this again and again in my talk but if you
again and again in my talk but if you
again and again in my talk but if you take anything away from this talk I do
take anything away from this talk I do
take anything away from this talk I do believe that being around people who are
believe that being around people who are
believe that being around people who are achieving what you want to achieve and
achieving what you want to achieve and
achieving what you want to achieve and inspiring you it’s really a fantastic
inspiring you it’s really a fantastic
inspiring you it’s really a fantastic place to be and it can be uncomfortable
place to be and it can be uncomfortable
place to be and it can be uncomfortable but it is is the fastest way to learn so
but it is is the fastest way to learn so
but it is is the fastest way to learn so I’m firstly as a musician myself I’m
I’m firstly as a musician myself I’m
I’m firstly as a musician myself I’m delighted to be speaking to such a
delighted to be speaking to such a
delighted to be speaking to such a musical audience today my parents met in
musical audience today my parents met in
musical audience today my parents met in an orchestra so I’ve been surrounded by
an orchestra so I’ve been surrounded by
an orchestra so I’ve been surrounded by music pretty much from the moment I was
music pretty much from the moment I was
music pretty much from the moment I was born and I have always loved music
born and I have always loved music
born and I have always loved music that’s me in the white jumper screaming
that’s me in the white jumper screaming
that’s me in the white jumper screaming at a piano for no reason but trust me I
at a piano for no reason but trust me I
at a piano for no reason but trust me I love music and when I was 9 years old I
love music and when I was 9 years old I
love music and when I was 9 years old I started learning the cello and pretty
started learning the cello and pretty
started learning the cello and pretty quickly I think
quickly I think
quickly I think one of the the better musicians in my
one of the the better musicians in my
one of the the better musicians in my primary school and this gave me a lot of
primary school and this gave me a lot of
primary school and this gave me a lot of pride and satisfaction and I really
pride and satisfaction and I really
pride and satisfaction and I really enjoyed this this position and so when I
enjoyed this this position and so when I
enjoyed this this position and so when I was a living I joined a specialist music
was a living I joined a specialist music
was a living I joined a specialist music school if anyone’s familiar with chi
school if anyone’s familiar with chi
school if anyone’s familiar with chi tones in manchester the school was I was
tones in manchester the school was I was
tones in manchester the school was I was I was a bit like chitons but it was in
I was a bit like chitons but it was in
I was a bit like chitons but it was in Scotland and almost overnight I went
Scotland and almost overnight I went
Scotland and almost overnight I went from being one of the best musicians in
from being one of the best musicians in
from being one of the best musicians in my primary school to one of the worst
my primary school to one of the worst
my primary school to one of the worst musicians in this music school and the
musicians in this music school and the
musicians in this music school and the standard was extremely high the other
standard was extremely high the other
standard was extremely high the other children were really advanced and this
children were really advanced and this
children were really advanced and this was the first time in my life that I had
was the first time in my life that I had
was the first time in my life that I had really been truly outside of my outside
really been truly outside of my outside
really been truly outside of my outside of my comfort zone and the cello which
of my comfort zone and the cello which
of my comfort zone and the cello which have given me a pride in satisfaction
have given me a pride in satisfaction
have given me a pride in satisfaction was now starting to become this source
was now starting to become this source
was now starting to become this source of frustration being surrounded by so
of frustration being surrounded by so
of frustration being surrounded by so many precocious teenagers who are
many precocious teenagers who are
many precocious teenagers who are fantastic at their instruments is an
fantastic at their instruments is an
fantastic at their instruments is an uncomfortable and difficult environment
uncomfortable and difficult environment
uncomfortable and difficult environment to be in when you’re 11 or 12 years old
to be in when you’re 11 or 12 years old
to be in when you’re 11 or 12 years old however this environment also galvanized
however this environment also galvanized
however this environment also galvanized me my standards for my own playing were
me my standards for my own playing were
me my standards for my own playing were drastically increased and I really took
drastically increased and I really took
drastically increased and I really took a lot of inspiration from the people
a lot of inspiration from the people
a lot of inspiration from the people around me and I worked really hard in
around me and I worked really hard in
around me and I worked really hard in order to to catch up to them and
order to to catch up to them and
order to to catch up to them and eventually after about seven years I
eventually after about seven years I
eventually after about seven years I went from being one of the worst
went from being one of the worst
went from being one of the worst musicians in this music school to
musicians in this music school to
musicians in this music school to leaving the cello section at the BBC
leaving the cello section at the BBC
leaving the cello section at the BBC Proms with the National Youth Orchestra
Proms with the National Youth Orchestra
Proms with the National Youth Orchestra of Scotland and I really I do believe
of Scotland and I really I do believe
of Scotland and I really I do believe that I would not have made it to the
that I would not have made it to the
that I would not have made it to the problems I wouldn’t have made it to this
problems I wouldn’t have made it to this
problems I wouldn’t have made it to this glorious stage if I hadn’t been around
glorious stage if I hadn’t been around
glorious stage if I hadn’t been around so many incredible musicians who
so many incredible musicians who
so many incredible musicians who inspired me and who made me work hard
inspired me and who made me work hard
inspired me and who made me work hard and I do believe that I got there
and I do believe that I got there
and I do believe that I got there because of the environment that I was in
because of the environment that I was in
because of the environment that I was in so as Hayley mentioned as well as
so as Hayley mentioned as well as
so as Hayley mentioned as well as studying music I’ve become fascinated by
studying music I’ve become fascinated by
studying music I’ve become fascinated by computer science and so I went to
computer science and so I went to
computer science and so I went to Cambridge in 2011 to study computer
Cambridge in 2011 to study computer
Cambridge in 2011 to study computer science and I knew very little about
science and I knew very little about
science and I knew very little about Cambridge when I applied my school knew
Cambridge when I applied my school knew
Cambridge when I applied my school knew nothing about Cambridge when I applied
nothing about Cambridge when I applied
nothing about Cambridge when I applied so I really had no idea what I was
so I really had no idea what I was
so I really had no idea what I was getting myself into
getting myself into
getting myself into and
and
and this was probably the second big leap
this was probably the second big leap
this was probably the second big leap into the unknown I’d taken in my life
into the unknown I’d taken in my life
into the unknown I’d taken in my life within a few days of starting the course
within a few days of starting the course
within a few days of starting the course I started to realize that maybe maybe I
I started to realize that maybe maybe I
I started to realize that maybe maybe I was out of my depth I vividly remember a
was out of my depth I vividly remember a
was out of my depth I vividly remember a conversation before one of our first
conversation before one of our first
conversation before one of our first lectures and someone asks when did you
lectures and someone asks when did you
lectures and someone asks when did you start programming and I I think I
start programming and I I think I
start programming and I I think I started when I was fifteen or sixteen so
started when I was fifteen or sixteen so
started when I was fifteen or sixteen so I said you know a couple of years just
I said you know a couple of years just
I said you know a couple of years just getting into it and I will never
getting into it and I will never
getting into it and I will never remember that never forget sorry the
remember that never forget sorry the
remember that never forget sorry the moment that someone turned around and
moment that someone turned around and
moment that someone turned around and very smugly said I’ve been programming
very smugly said I’ve been programming
very smugly said I’ve been programming since I was five who starts programming
since I was five who starts programming
since I was five who starts programming when they’re five as a reminder I was
when they’re five as a reminder I was
when they’re five as a reminder I was screaming at pianos when I was five so
screaming at pianos when I was five so
screaming at pianos when I was five so it dawned on me that I might be around
it dawned on me that I might be around
it dawned on me that I might be around people who were of a slightly different
people who were of a slightly different
people who were of a slightly different caliber to me and then maybe enjoyed
caliber to me and then maybe enjoyed
caliber to me and then maybe enjoyed programming slightly more denied it and
programming slightly more denied it and
programming slightly more denied it and so I spent the next two years struggling
so I spent the next two years struggling
so I spent the next two years struggling to adapt to this difficult new
to adapt to this difficult new
to adapt to this difficult new environment while other people seem to
environment while other people seem to
environment while other people seem to be thriving and succeeding and at the
be thriving and succeeding and at the
be thriving and succeeding and at the end of my second year my tutor invited
end of my second year my tutor invited
end of my second year my tutor invited me to his office to discuss my
me to his office to discuss my
me to his office to discuss my remarkable exam results and they were
remarkable exam results and they were
remarkable exam results and they were remarkable because I had placed in the
remarkable because I had placed in the
remarkable because I had placed in the bottom 5% of my year and I’ve come
bottom 5% of my year and I’ve come
bottom 5% of my year and I’ve come dangerously close to failing my entire
dangerously close to failing my entire
dangerously close to failing my entire degree and my tutor asked me have you
degree and my tutor asked me have you
degree and my tutor asked me have you considered moving to a different
considered moving to a different
considered moving to a different University and these words really caught
University and these words really caught
University and these words really caught me like a knife you know my first two
me like a knife you know my first two
me like a knife you know my first two years at Cambridge had been an academic
years at Cambridge had been an academic
years at Cambridge had been an academic car crash I truly believed everyone
car crash I truly believed everyone
car crash I truly believed everyone there was smarter than I was and I was
there was smarter than I was and I was
there was smarter than I was and I was out of my comfort zone in fact this was
out of my comfort zone in fact this was
out of my comfort zone in fact this was probably one of the most uncomfortable
probably one of the most uncomfortable
probably one of the most uncomfortable conversations of my life and so in my
conversations of my life and so in my
conversations of my life and so in my third year I didn’t leave and instead of
third year I didn’t leave and instead of
third year I didn’t leave and instead of making things easier for myself I made
making things easier for myself I made
making things easier for myself I made things harder for myself I started
things harder for myself I started
things harder for myself I started working in classes with two friends who
working in classes with two friends who
working in classes with two friends who had done really well in the first two
had done really well in the first two
had done really well in the first two years of our course and at first working
years of our course and at first working
years of our course and at first working with these people who were on a
with these people who were on a
with these people who were on a completely different level to me just
completely different level to me just
completely different level to me just reminded me of my own shortcomings it’s
reminded me of my own shortcomings it’s
reminded me of my own shortcomings it’s pretty frustrating but as the year went
pretty frustrating but as the year went
pretty frustrating but as the year went on I started to adopt some of their
on I started to adopt some of their
on I started to adopt some of their habits and their mindsets and my
habits and their mindsets and my
habits and their mindsets and my standards for my own work increased and
standards for my own work increased and
standards for my own work increased and I found myself starting to understand
I found myself starting to understand
I found myself starting to understand more of the content and the key here is
more of the content and the key here is
more of the content and the key here is that I had put myself in an environment
that I had put myself in an environment
that I had put myself in an environment where success was normal
where success was normal
where success was normal I started benchmarking myself against
I started benchmarking myself against
I started benchmarking myself against people who were getting really good
people who were getting really good
people who were getting really good grades and what I perceived to be normal
grades and what I perceived to be normal
grades and what I perceived to be normal had been redefined by the people around
had been redefined by the people around
had been redefined by the people around me this is goes back to my original
me this is goes back to my original
me this is goes back to my original point I do believe that when you’re in
point I do believe that when you’re in
point I do believe that when you’re in an environment with people who are
an environment with people who are
an environment with people who are achieving what you want to achieve they
achieving what you want to achieve they
achieving what you want to achieve they will elevate you and you will achieve
will elevate you and you will achieve
will elevate you and you will achieve more and so at the end of my third year
more and so at the end of my third year
more and so at the end of my third year I graduated from Cambridge with a
I graduated from Cambridge with a
I graduated from Cambridge with a respectable mark much to the relief of
respectable mark much to the relief of
respectable mark much to the relief of my parents so after I graduated from
my parents so after I graduated from
my parents so after I graduated from Cambridge I joined an accelerator called
Cambridge I joined an accelerator called
Cambridge I joined an accelerator called entrepreneur first and this is where I
entrepreneur first and this is where I
entrepreneur first and this is where I met my business partner James and the
met my business partner James and the
met my business partner James and the idea behind entrepreneur first at the
idea behind entrepreneur first at the
idea behind entrepreneur first at the time was really quite simple you take 50
time was really quite simple you take 50
time was really quite simple you take 50 ambitious individuals you throw them
ambitious individuals you throw them
ambitious individuals you throw them together for six months and hopefully at
together for six months and hopefully at
together for six months and hopefully at the end you have some successful tech
the end you have some successful tech
the end you have some successful tech startups once again I was thrown
startups once again I was thrown
startups once again I was thrown straight into the deep end some of these
straight into the deep end some of these
straight into the deep end some of these people had PhDs and theoretical computer
people had PhDs and theoretical computer
people had PhDs and theoretical computer science some of them had started their
science some of them had started their
science some of them had started their own businesses before and I was also the
own businesses before and I was also the
own businesses before and I was also the second youngest person on the program at
second youngest person on the program at
second youngest person on the program at the age of 20 in fact when we all took a
the age of 20 in fact when we all took a
the age of 20 in fact when we all took a trip to America for a week
trip to America for a week
trip to America for a week I wasn’t even old enough to drink
I wasn’t even old enough to drink
I wasn’t even old enough to drink alcohol and this was a sobering reminder
alcohol and this was a sobering reminder
alcohol and this was a sobering reminder of how young I was at the time however
of how young I was at the time however
of how young I was at the time however by this stage in my life I’ve become
by this stage in my life I’ve become
by this stage in my life I’ve become used to being one of the most
used to being one of the most
used to being one of the most experienced people in my group and in
experienced people in my group and in
experienced people in my group and in fact I’ve started to thrive in this
fact I’ve started to thrive in this
fact I’ve started to thrive in this environment where I was around people
environment where I was around people
environment where I was around people who were achieving what I wanted to
who were achieving what I wanted to
who were achieving what I wanted to achieve and really inspiring me and I
achieve and really inspiring me and I
achieve and really inspiring me and I learned so much from being around such
learned so much from being around such
learned so much from being around such ambitious people I spent six months
ambitious people I spent six months
ambitious people I spent six months working and living exclusively with
working and living exclusively with
working and living exclusively with people who wanted to really change the
people who wanted to really change the
people who wanted to really change the world and build high-impact companies
world and build high-impact companies
world and build high-impact companies and again what I perceived as normal had
and again what I perceived as normal had
and again what I perceived as normal had been redefined
been redefined
been redefined so at university it was normal to just
so at university it was normal to just
so at university it was normal to just graduate
graduate
graduate get a graduate job and that’s that’s
get a graduate job and that’s that’s
get a graduate job and that’s that’s normal and no it was normal to start
normal and no it was normal to start
normal and no it was normal to start your own business and want to you know
your own business and want to you know
your own business and want to you know really make a difference
really make a difference
really make a difference and I worked harder than I think I’ve
and I worked harder than I think I’ve
and I worked harder than I think I’ve ever have in those six months because of
ever have in those six months because of
ever have in those six months because of the environment I was in because I was
the environment I was in because I was
the environment I was in because I was around such incredible people and
around such incredible people and
around such incredible people and getting a company off the ground is not
getting a company off the ground is not
getting a company off the ground is not easy in fact 90% of businesses fail
easy in fact 90% of businesses fail
easy in fact 90% of businesses fail within their first 18 months I found the
within their first 18 months I found the
within their first 18 months I found the donk or when I was 20 just four weeks
donk or when I was 20 just four weeks
donk or when I was 20 just four weeks after I left University I had never run
after I left University I had never run
after I left University I had never run a business before I’d never raised
a business before I’d never raised
a business before I’d never raised investment I’d never made a team I never
investment I’d never made a team I never
investment I’d never made a team I never talked to the press really this was the
talked to the press really this was the
talked to the press really this was the the biggest leap into the unknown that I
the biggest leap into the unknown that I
the biggest leap into the unknown that I could have taken however while most
could have taken however while most
could have taken however while most people might spend you know five or ten
people might spend you know five or ten
people might spend you know five or ten years waiting for the right experience
years waiting for the right experience
years waiting for the right experience and waiting for the right time to start
and waiting for the right time to start
and waiting for the right time to start we started with no prior experience and
we started with no prior experience and
we started with no prior experience and we had no choice but to learn as quickly
we had no choice but to learn as quickly
we had no choice but to learn as quickly as we could and learn as much as we
as we could and learn as much as we
as we could and learn as much as we could if we wanted to survive in the
could if we wanted to survive in the
could if we wanted to survive in the business world and in fact Reid Hoffman
business world and in fact Reid Hoffman
business world and in fact Reid Hoffman the founder of LinkedIn has this
the founder of LinkedIn has this
the founder of LinkedIn has this fantastic mind where he says that
fantastic mind where he says that
fantastic mind where he says that starting a company is like jumping off a
starting a company is like jumping off a
starting a company is like jumping off a cliff and assembling an airplane on the
cliff and assembling an airplane on the
cliff and assembling an airplane on the way down and I think we’ve managed to
way down and I think we’ve managed to
way down and I think we’ve managed to assemble an airplane I love this analogy
assemble an airplane I love this analogy
assemble an airplane I love this analogy I think it applies to any project you
I think it applies to any project you
I think it applies to any project you start where you have no no prior
start where you have no no prior
start where you have no no prior experience I just think it’s fantastic
experience I just think it’s fantastic
experience I just think it’s fantastic so this takes me back to 2015 when I’m
so this takes me back to 2015 when I’m
so this takes me back to 2015 when I’m sleeping on that mattress that you saw
sleeping on that mattress that you saw
sleeping on that mattress that you saw at the start of my talk and I was
at the start of my talk and I was
at the start of my talk and I was thinking recently what kept me going
thinking recently what kept me going
thinking recently what kept me going through that period and I think there
through that period and I think there
through that period and I think there are three things really that kept me
are three things really that kept me
are three things really that kept me going in that time firstly as I said
going in that time firstly as I said
going in that time firstly as I said before the environment I was in most of
before the environment I was in most of
before the environment I was in most of my friends were moving mountains to keep
my friends were moving mountains to keep
my friends were moving mountains to keep their companies alive and they were
their companies alive and they were
their companies alive and they were doing everything possible to survive in
doing everything possible to survive in
doing everything possible to survive in the business world so really the
the business world so really the
the business world so really the sacrifice I was making wasn’t that out
sacrifice I was making wasn’t that out
sacrifice I was making wasn’t that out of the ordinary in the context I was in
of the ordinary in the context I was in
of the ordinary in the context I was in secondly I’d figured out that running
secondly I’d figured out that running
secondly I’d figured out that running and cycling kept me sane and they helped
and cycling kept me sane and they helped
and cycling kept me sane and they helped me sleep when things were stressful and
me sleep when things were stressful and
me sleep when things were stressful and I you know the more us more stressed I
I you know the more us more stressed I
I you know the more us more stressed I got the further Iran or the further I
got the further Iran or the further I
got the further Iran or the further I cycled and this helped me so much and
cycled and this helped me so much and
cycled and this helped me so much and finally I’d managed to combine my two
finally I’d managed to combine my two
finally I’d managed to combine my two biggest passions in life I’d combined
biggest passions in life I’d combined
biggest passions in life I’d combined music and I’d combine technology and I
music and I’d combine technology and I
music and I’d combine technology and I do think that surviving through these
do think that surviving through these
do think that surviving through these difficult periods of your life is so
difficult periods of your life is so
difficult periods of your life is so much easier when you truly care about
much easier when you truly care about
much easier when you truly care about what you’re working on and when you love
what you’re working on and when you love
what you’re working on and when you love the work you’re doing
the work you’re doing
the work you’re doing so before I finish I just want to take a
so before I finish I just want to take a
so before I finish I just want to take a moment and ask you to think about the
moment and ask you to think about the
moment and ask you to think about the environment that you’re in and the
environment that you’re in and the
environment that you’re in and the people that you’re around are you around
people that you’re around are you around
people that you’re around are you around people that are challenging you are you
people that are challenging you are you
people that are challenging you are you throwing yourself into unfamiliar
throwing yourself into unfamiliar
throwing yourself into unfamiliar situations or the people around you
situations or the people around you
situations or the people around you inspiring you because I do believe that
inspiring you because I do believe that
inspiring you because I do believe that the environment you’re in and the
the environment you’re in and the
the environment you’re in and the company you keep really have such an
company you keep really have such an
company you keep really have such an impact on on what you can achieve
impact on on what you can achieve
impact on on what you can achieve yourself so I want to just I want to
yourself so I want to just I want to
yourself so I want to just I want to leave with them three of the lessons
leave with them three of the lessons
leave with them three of the lessons that I have learned so far firstly I
that I have learned so far firstly I
that I have learned so far firstly I really think you should actively seek
really think you should actively seek
really think you should actively seek out people better than yourself so that
out people better than yourself so that
out people better than yourself so that might be starting a quartet with three
might be starting a quartet with three
might be starting a quartet with three musicians that you think are better than
musicians that you think are better than
musicians that you think are better than you or it might be forming a band where
you or it might be forming a band where
you or it might be forming a band where everyone can solve well better than you
everyone can solve well better than you
everyone can solve well better than you but that is what will help you improve
but that is what will help you improve
but that is what will help you improve and this is what I have done I’ve
and this is what I have done I’ve
and this is what I have done I’ve constantly put myself into these
constantly put myself into these
constantly put myself into these environments where I’ve been one of the
environments where I’ve been one of the
environments where I’ve been one of the least experienced people but I think
least experienced people but I think
least experienced people but I think that’s gotten me to where I am today
that’s gotten me to where I am today
that’s gotten me to where I am today secondly I think it’s really important
secondly I think it’s really important
secondly I think it’s really important that you figure out what recharges you
that you figure out what recharges you
that you figure out what recharges you this might sound simple and it might not
this might sound simple and it might not
this might sound simple and it might not be music if you’re a musician I found
be music if you’re a musician I found
be music if you’re a musician I found that running and cycling just really
that running and cycling just really
that running and cycling just really helped me when things get tough and I
helped me when things get tough and I
helped me when things get tough and I would encourage you to think hard about
would encourage you to think hard about
would encourage you to think hard about what is it that helps you reset and
what is it that helps you reset and
what is it that helps you reset and recharge because it’s so crucial and
recharge because it’s so crucial and
recharge because it’s so crucial and finally I think working on projects that
finally I think working on projects that
finally I think working on projects that you really care about makes it so much
you really care about makes it so much
you really care about makes it so much easier to survive when the going gets
easier to survive when the going gets
easier to survive when the going gets tough and I just I cannot stress this
tough and I just I cannot stress this
tough and I just I cannot stress this enough i I really there were moments
enough i I really there were moments
enough i I really there were moments where you know we had almost no money
where you know we had almost no money
where you know we had almost no money and it was really getting quite quite
and it was really getting quite quite
and it was really getting quite quite difficult and people are saying you know
difficult and people are saying you know
difficult and people are saying you know do you want to keep going this looks
do you want to keep going this looks
do you want to keep going this looks like it might not work but I love music
like it might not work but I love music
like it might not work but I love music so much
so much
so much and I’m not technology and I knew that
and I’m not technology and I knew that
and I’m not technology and I knew that this is what I had to do so work on
this is what I had to do so work on
this is what I had to do so work on things that you care about when I was
things that you care about when I was
things that you care about when I was asked to do this TEDx talk in fact I was
asked to do this TEDx talk in fact I was
asked to do this TEDx talk in fact I was um I was tempted just to say no and just
um I was tempted just to say no and just
um I was tempted just to say no and just avoid taking the risk entirely I’ve
avoid taking the risk entirely I’ve
avoid taking the risk entirely I’ve never done a talk like this before so
never done a talk like this before so
never done a talk like this before so this is another leap into the unknown
this is another leap into the unknown
this is another leap into the unknown for me but if past experience has taught
for me but if past experience has taught
for me but if past experience has taught me anything it’s that learning as you go
me anything it’s that learning as you go
me anything it’s that learning as you go and having to think on your feet as I’m
and having to think on your feet as I’m
and having to think on your feet as I’m one of the most fun ways and most
one of the most fun ways and most
one of the most fun ways and most enjoyable ways to live life and so
enjoyable ways to live life and so
enjoyable ways to live life and so please do not hesitate to take your own
please do not hesitate to take your own
please do not hesitate to take your own bold steps into the unknown
bold steps into the unknown
bold steps into the unknown thank you very much
thank you very much
thank you very much [Applause]
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