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good evening I’m going to start with a

good evening I’m going to start with a question do you know what the connection

question do you know what the connection

question do you know what the connection between Richard Branson and Jeff Bezos

between Richard Branson and Jeff Bezos

between Richard Branson and Jeff Bezos Jeff be sources the founder of Amazon

Jeff be sources the founder of Amazon

Jeff be sources the founder of Amazon and he’s a rather rich man the answer is

and he’s a rather rich man the answer is

and he’s a rather rich man the answer is that they both have space projects and

that they both have space projects and

that they both have space projects and the obviously without talking about

the obviously without talking about

the obviously without talking about space so there’s another one as well

space so there’s another one as well

space so there’s another one as well Elon Musk he’s very well known and if I

Elon Musk he’s very well known and if I

Elon Musk he’s very well known and if I put that in the question then everyone

put that in the question then everyone

put that in the question then everyone know the answer but you know musk is a

know the answer but you know musk is a

know the answer but you know musk is a very successful entrepreneur and he has

very successful entrepreneur and he has

very successful entrepreneur and he has a space company called SpaceX and they

a space company called SpaceX and they

a space company called SpaceX and they have been in the news almost every day

have been in the news almost every day

have been in the news almost every day Jeff B’s offices company Blue Origin is

Jeff B’s offices company Blue Origin is

Jeff B’s offices company Blue Origin is not in the news but they’re doing very

not in the news but they’re doing very

not in the news but they’re doing very big things in space and he’s spending up

big things in space and he’s spending up

big things in space and he’s spending up to a billion dollars a year in space I

to a billion dollars a year in space I

to a billion dollars a year in space I can’t compete with that so I’m proposing

can’t compete with that so I’m proposing

can’t compete with that so I’m proposing a poor-man’s space project but it’s

a poor-man’s space project but it’s

a poor-man’s space project but it’s British and what’s important is it gets

British and what’s important is it gets

British and what’s important is it gets Britain back into space and that might

Britain back into space and that might

Britain back into space and that might seem a tosser fairly frivolous activity

seem a tosser fairly frivolous activity

seem a tosser fairly frivolous activity but actually getting space getting

but actually getting space getting

but actually getting space getting Britain into space is very important

Britain into space is very important

Britain into space is very important because we need engineers and

because we need engineers and

because we need engineers and engineering has a very poor status in

engineering has a very poor status in

engineering has a very poor status in this in this country people are saying

this in this country people are saying

this in this country people are saying oh I want the washing machine engineer

oh I want the washing machine engineer

oh I want the washing machine engineer to come out and fix my washing machine

to come out and fix my washing machine

to come out and fix my washing machine that’s not engineering engineering is

that’s not engineering engineering is

that’s not engineering engineering is designing rockets and building things

designing rockets and building things

designing rockets and building things that help grow the economy so we need

that help grow the economy so we need

that help grow the economy so we need this we need something in the UK and the

this we need something in the UK and the

this we need something in the UK and the government has recognized that and

government has recognized that and

government has recognized that and they’re beginning to invest into space

they’re beginning to invest into space

they’re beginning to invest into space sports but we need something developed

sports but we need something developed

sports but we need something developed in the UK for the UK to inspire the next

in the UK for the UK to inspire the next

in the UK for the UK to inspire the next generation so I was going to talk a

generation so I was going to talk a

generation so I was going to talk a little bit about my background how I got

little bit about my background how I got

little bit about my background how I got into this and hopefully this will lead

into this and hopefully this will lead

into this and hopefully this will lead other engineers to follow my tracks I’m

other engineers to follow my tracks I’m

other engineers to follow my tracks I’m not

not

not pioneer but I want to give something

pioneer but I want to give something

pioneer but I want to give something back to the engineering profession so I

back to the engineering profession so I

back to the engineering profession so I was born at the end of the 60s around

was born at the end of the 60s around

was born at the end of the 60s around the time when the Apollo moon landings

the time when the Apollo moon landings

the time when the Apollo moon landings were happening and maybe that had some

were happening and maybe that had some

were happening and maybe that had some effect on me I was born in a time when

effect on me I was born in a time when

effect on me I was born in a time when there was black and white TV anywho

there was black and white TV anywho

there was black and white TV anywho remember back there was a three channels

remember back there was a three channels

remember back there was a three channels and then there was Channel four and that

and then there was Channel four and that

and then there was Channel four and that was a big big news now we’ve got

was a big big news now we’ve got

was a big big news now we’ve got hundreds of channels there’s been there

hundreds of channels there’s been there

hundreds of channels there’s been there was no internet there was no mobile

was no internet there was no mobile

was no internet there was no mobile phones and so you can see how engineers

phones and so you can see how engineers

phones and so you can see how engineers have actually changed the world in a

have actually changed the world in a

have actually changed the world in a significant way and it’s been said that

significant way and it’s been said that

significant way and it’s been said that software is taking over the world but

software is taking over the world but

software is taking over the world but not really much as happened in space

not really much as happened in space

not really much as happened in space it’s the same old way to get there and

it’s the same old way to get there and

it’s the same old way to get there and things haven’t moved on so I graduated I

things haven’t moved on so I graduated I

things haven’t moved on so I graduated I left University and I’ve always had an

left University and I’ve always had an

left University and I’ve always had an interest in space and I got involved in

interest in space and I got involved in

interest in space and I got involved in amateur Rockets and one of the things I

amateur Rockets and one of the things I

amateur Rockets and one of the things I did was we had a team of people we go to

did was we had a team of people we go to

did was we had a team of people we go to rocket and we took it out to Nevada in

rocket and we took it out to Nevada in

rocket and we took it out to Nevada in the u.s. to the Black Rock Desert we

the u.s. to the Black Rock Desert we

the u.s. to the Black Rock Desert we went to an amateur rocketry event called

went to an amateur rocketry event called

went to an amateur rocketry event called alms so it’s a male dominated so we got

alms so it’s a male dominated so we got

alms so it’s a male dominated so we got the rocket launch prepare it launched it

the rocket launch prepare it launched it

the rocket launch prepare it launched it and somebody said something that got me

and somebody said something that got me

and somebody said something that got me thinking and that’s got me thinking for

thinking and that’s got me thinking for

thinking and that’s got me thinking for a number of years since then and that

a number of years since then and that

a number of years since then and that was the highest this Rockets ever been

was the highest this Rockets ever been

was the highest this Rockets ever been is in the aircraft that Paul Genova and

is in the aircraft that Paul Genova and

is in the aircraft that Paul Genova and so that got me thinking whoa why did you

so that got me thinking whoa why did you

so that got me thinking whoa why did you launch a rocket up an aircraft and I’m

launch a rocket up an aircraft and I’m

launch a rocket up an aircraft and I’m not the first to think about that

not the first to think about that

not the first to think about that there’s a rocket they had been launched

there’s a rocket they had been launched

there’s a rocket they had been launched from an aircraft so that’s a proven

from an aircraft so that’s a proven

from an aircraft so that’s a proven technique it’s called Pegasus and it’s

technique it’s called Pegasus and it’s

technique it’s called Pegasus and it’s offer an old twice value

offer an old twice value

offer an old twice value so it gives you an idea that that’s

so it gives you an idea that that’s

so it gives you an idea that that’s possible there’s nothing nothing new in

possible there’s nothing nothing new in

possible there’s nothing nothing new in that but what we so we’ve got a look it

that but what we so we’ve got a look it

that but what we so we’ve got a look it launched and then I came back to the UK

launched and then I came back to the UK

launched and then I came back to the UK and then I’ve got thinking this

and then I’ve got thinking this

and then I’ve got thinking this in the afternoon why why is nobody else

in the afternoon why why is nobody else

in the afternoon why why is nobody else thought about that and it was around

thought about that and it was around

thought about that and it was around this time in 2004 there was a

this time in 2004 there was a

this time in 2004 there was a competition to get supple to space

competition to get supple to space

competition to get supple to space tourism started and in the winner of

tourism started and in the winner of

tourism started and in the winner of this competition was this airplane this

this competition was this airplane this

this competition was this airplane this craft I can call it that

craft I can call it that

craft I can call it that it’s called spaceship one and the

it’s called spaceship one and the

it’s called spaceship one and the carrier air playing is called white

carrier air playing is called white

carrier air playing is called white night and the reason it won was that so

night and the reason it won was that so

night and the reason it won was that so that the rules of the competition was

that the rules of the competition was

that the rules of the competition was that you had to carry the equivalent

that you had to carry the equivalent

that you had to carry the equivalent weight of three people up 200 kilometers

weight of three people up 200 kilometers

weight of three people up 200 kilometers and then get them back down to earth and

and then get them back down to earth and

and then get them back down to earth and then repeat the process two weeks later

then repeat the process two weeks later

then repeat the process two weeks later and this one it was designed by an

and this one it was designed by an

and this one it was designed by an aircraft designer called Burt Rutan and

aircraft designer called Burt Rutan and

aircraft designer called Burt Rutan and is a legend in the industry here’s the

is a legend in the industry here’s the

is a legend in the industry here’s the reason why it’s different and the reason

reason why it’s different and the reason

reason why it’s different and the reason why it won as far as I can see is by

why it won as far as I can see is by

why it won as far as I can see is by starting higher up and dropping the

starting higher up and dropping the

starting higher up and dropping the rocket so the roughy is underneath but

rocket so the roughy is underneath but

rocket so the roughy is underneath but the main airplane dropping the rocket

the main airplane dropping the rocket

the main airplane dropping the rocket off you are reducing the drag so that

off you are reducing the drag so that

off you are reducing the drag so that helps you to gain speed so if you start

helps you to gain speed so if you start

helps you to gain speed so if you start from the ground you’ve got a fight

from the ground you’ve got a fight

from the ground you’ve got a fight through the thick atmosphere to get up

through the thick atmosphere to get up

through the thick atmosphere to get up to altitude and Burt Rutan who is the

to altitude and Burt Rutan who is the

to altitude and Burt Rutan who is the designer of this this craft he worked

designer of this this craft he worked

designer of this this craft he worked out of his teamwork ties that you need

out of his teamwork ties that you need

out of his teamwork ties that you need two and a half times as much energy or

two and a half times as much energy or

two and a half times as much energy or power to get up to that altitude so it

power to get up to that altitude so it

power to get up to that altitude so it was a big ineffective what I needed

was a big ineffective what I needed

was a big ineffective what I needed twice the size of a rocket motor two and

twice the size of a rocket motor two and

twice the size of a rocket motor two and a half times the size of rocket motor to

a half times the size of rocket motor to

a half times the size of rocket motor to get up to altitude so there’s a few

get up to altitude so there’s a few

get up to altitude so there’s a few other benefits as well that if you’ve

other benefits as well that if you’ve

other benefits as well that if you’ve seen a rocket launching from a ground

seen a rocket launching from a ground

seen a rocket launching from a ground it’s got to slowly get off the ground

it’s got to slowly get off the ground

it’s got to slowly get off the ground and you need to be precisely aiming the

and you need to be precisely aiming the

and you need to be precisely aiming the Rope it so it doesn’t steer into the

Rope it so it doesn’t steer into the

Rope it so it doesn’t steer into the ground if you’re dropping off an

ground if you’re dropping off an

ground if you’re dropping off an aircraft you can avoid that so that got

aircraft you can avoid that so that got

aircraft you can avoid that so that got me thinking a bit more well okay great

me thinking a bit more well okay great

me thinking a bit more well okay great they’ve won this competition they earned

they’ve won this competition they earned

they’ve won this competition they earned a lot of money for themselves but what

a lot of money for themselves but what

a lot of money for themselves but what next and since then there’s been no

next and since then there’s been no

next and since then there’s been no suborbital there’s been no space tourism

suborbital there’s been no space tourism

suborbital there’s been no space tourism flights in fact unfortunately people

flights in fact unfortunately people

flights in fact unfortunately people have lost their lives trying to build up

have lost their lives trying to build up

have lost their lives trying to build up Virgin Galactic so this was then brought

Virgin Galactic so this was then brought

Virgin Galactic so this was then brought on by by Richard Branson and Virgin

on by by Richard Branson and Virgin

on by by Richard Branson and Virgin Galactic and there’s been lots of delays

Galactic and there’s been lots of delays

Galactic and there’s been lots of delays and all of this is happening in the u.s.

and all of this is happening in the u.s.

and all of this is happening in the u.s. none of it is happening in the UK so

none of it is happening in the UK so

none of it is happening in the UK so this is another launcher that this is

this is another launcher that this is

this is another launcher that this is the largest airplane in the world not

the largest airplane in the world not

the largest airplane in the world not including the hybrid Avett air vehicle

including the hybrid Avett air vehicle

including the hybrid Avett air vehicle but as you can see compared to the

but as you can see compared to the

but as you can see compared to the people on the ground this is this is

people on the ground this is this is

people on the ground this is this is enormous it’s got six engines and it’s

enormous it’s got six engines and it’s

enormous it’s got six engines and it’s just the biggest thing ever and the idea

just the biggest thing ever and the idea

just the biggest thing ever and the idea is that you can put a rocket in the

is that you can put a rocket in the

is that you can put a rocket in the middle and then you can drop the rocket

middle and then you can drop the rocket

middle and then you can drop the rocket off so even the big guys the

off so even the big guys the

off so even the big guys the billionaire’s have realized that there

billionaire’s have realized that there

billionaire’s have realized that there is an advantage of starting launching

is an advantage of starting launching

is an advantage of starting launching from high right what I want to do is the

from high right what I want to do is the

from high right what I want to do is the exact opposite of that

exact opposite of that

exact opposite of that so this is a an amateur built

so this is a an amateur built

so this is a an amateur built radio-controlled plane they launch it

radio-controlled plane they launch it

radio-controlled plane they launch it from airfields around the country grass

from airfields around the country grass

from airfields around the country grass to air strips this is rather bigger than

to air strips this is rather bigger than

to air strips this is rather bigger than normal

normal

normal radio-controlled planes the advantage of

radio-controlled planes the advantage of

radio-controlled planes the advantage of them using an unmanned playing a

them using an unmanned playing a

them using an unmanned playing a radio-controlled plane is that you don’t

radio-controlled plane is that you don’t

radio-controlled plane is that you don’t you can keep people away from it so

you can keep people away from it so

you can keep people away from it so there’s nobody at risk if you’re

there’s nobody at risk if you’re

there’s nobody at risk if you’re dropping a rocket off fact there’s

dropping a rocket off fact there’s

dropping a rocket off fact there’s nobody nearby nobody’s going to get hurt

nobody nearby nobody’s going to get hurt

nobody nearby nobody’s going to get hurt and you can fly the plane out to sea so

and you can fly the plane out to sea so

and you can fly the plane out to sea so you’re keeping away you keeping the

you’re keeping away you keeping the

you’re keeping away you keeping the risks right down you’ve also got the

risks right down you’ve also got the

risks right down you’ve also got the benefits you don’t need the fight the

benefits you don’t need the fight the

benefits you don’t need the fight the cost of the flight is pretty low II just

cost of the flight is pretty low II just

cost of the flight is pretty low II just need some fuel and somebody to go fly it

need some fuel and somebody to go fly it

need some fuel and somebody to go fly it and off you go

and off you go

and off you go so this was the idea to take off from

so this was the idea to take off from

so this was the idea to take off from land fly out to sea go up as enough to

land fly out to sea go up as enough to

land fly out to sea go up as enough to choose as far as you can go then you top

choose as far as you can go then you top

choose as far as you can go then you top the rocket off and then you fly the

the rocket off and then you fly the

the rocket off and then you fly the aircraft back down to where you came

aircraft back down to where you came

aircraft back down to where you came from and you land it and off you go

from and you land it and off you go

from and you land it and off you go so I want to do the same sort of thing

so I want to do the same sort of thing

so I want to do the same sort of thing but on a significantly smaller scale to

but on a significantly smaller scale to

but on a significantly smaller scale to keep the costs right there

keep the costs right there

keep the costs right there we’ve had a lot of help from the Welsh

we’ve had a lot of help from the Welsh

we’ve had a lot of help from the Welsh government and they found us a place to

government and they found us a place to

government and they found us a place to do a static test so static test is when

do a static test so static test is when

do a static test so static test is when you do anything a rocket you’ve got to

you do anything a rocket you’ve got to

you do anything a rocket you’ve got to start by testing everything on the

start by testing everything on the

start by testing everything on the ground and you do a static test site so

ground and you do a static test site so

ground and you do a static test site so the place that we’ve got in Wales is in

the place that we’ve got in Wales is in

the place that we’ve got in Wales is in the middle of two valleys there’s no way

the middle of two valleys there’s no way

the middle of two valleys there’s no way that anyone will get hurt there’s a

that anyone will get hurt there’s a

that anyone will get hurt there’s a Secours or an area and they’ve also

Secours or an area and they’ve also

Secours or an area and they’ve also found us a place to smooth that snow

found us a place to smooth that snow

found us a place to smooth that snow down yet Aerospace Center where we can

down yet Aerospace Center where we can

down yet Aerospace Center where we can do test flights we can start by doing

do test flights we can start by doing

do test flights we can start by doing just doing test flights not not no more

just doing test flights not not no more

just doing test flights not not no more get to start with so we fly practice

get to start with so we fly practice

get to start with so we fly practice everything come back land then we put

everything come back land then we put

everything come back land then we put Rockets on and we slowly build up so

Rockets on and we slowly build up so

Rockets on and we slowly build up so we’re keeping the spend right down the

we’re keeping the spend right down the

we’re keeping the spend right down the engineering costs are very low but

engineering costs are very low but

engineering costs are very low but nevertheless we’re getting something

nevertheless we’re getting something

nevertheless we’re getting something into the air so without the help from

into the air so without the help from

into the air so without the help from the Welsh Government we could not get at

the Welsh Government we could not get at

the Welsh Government we could not get at what the launch license there’s a whole

what the launch license there’s a whole

what the launch license there’s a whole load of bureaucracy that would slow us

load of bureaucracy that would slow us

load of bureaucracy that would slow us down

down

down if one problem is that I haven’t yet got

if one problem is that I haven’t yet got

if one problem is that I haven’t yet got permission for my wife so this is a fier

permission for my wife so this is a fier

permission for my wife so this is a fier script and as you can see you go back

script and as you can see you go back

script and as you can see you go back the airstrip and then you come off the

the airstrip and then you come off the

the airstrip and then you come off the end and you’re flying over the sea

end and you’re flying over the sea

end and you’re flying over the sea already I then came across another

already I then came across another

already I then came across another project this is actually a massive

project this is actually a massive

project this is actually a massive project where they looked at the idea of

project where they looked at the idea of

project where they looked at the idea of putting a glider behind a tow plane and

putting a glider behind a tow plane and

putting a glider behind a tow plane and the advantage of that is that you’ve got

the advantage of that is that you’ve got

the advantage of that is that you’ve got in effect you can spit up the design to

in effect you can spit up the design to

in effect you can spit up the design to you designed the toe pages of holy pop

you designed the toe pages of holy pop

you designed the toe pages of holy pop the shelter sort of device and then you

the shelter sort of device and then you

the shelter sort of device and then you have the glider and that’s carrying the

have the glider and that’s carrying the

have the glider and that’s carrying the rocket so that seemed a good idea I

rocket so that seemed a good idea I

rocket so that seemed a good idea I developed a little bit further so this

developed a little bit further so this

developed a little bit further so this is a picture of someone with a giant

is a picture of someone with a giant

is a picture of someone with a giant scale weight control plane so you can

scale weight control plane so you can

scale weight control plane so you can see that people can make

see that people can make

see that people can make radio-controlled planes pretty large

radio-controlled planes pretty large

radio-controlled planes pretty large size and movie big enough to tow up a

size and movie big enough to tow up a

size and movie big enough to tow up a fairly substantial glider to go in

fairly substantial glider to go in

fairly substantial glider to go in rocket

rocket

rocket you can see that claim that you can

you can see that claim that you can

you can see that claim that you can actually and you should put a small

actually and you should put a small

actually and you should put a small child in that but I recommend it’s a

child in that but I recommend it’s a

child in that but I recommend it’s a game on the Internet no do not put a

game on the Internet no do not put a

game on the Internet no do not put a small child in my plane but it shows

small child in my plane but it shows

small child in my plane but it shows that it’s all it all seems possible

that it’s all it all seems possible

that it’s all it all seems possible there’s no reason why it couldn’t be

there’s no reason why it couldn’t be

there’s no reason why it couldn’t be done and yet nobody’s done it yet so

done and yet nobody’s done it yet so

done and yet nobody’s done it yet so this is a chance for Britain to do

this is a chance for Britain to do

this is a chance for Britain to do something a little bit different but

something a little bit different but

something a little bit different but it’s a good chance to do that

it’s a good chance to do that

it’s a good chance to do that so we’ve done some simulation on what we

so we’ve done some simulation on what we

so we’ve done some simulation on what we think that the how how the rocket would

think that the how how the rocket would

think that the how how the rocket would fly up to altitude so the way we’re

fly up to altitude so the way we’re

fly up to altitude so the way we’re thinking is that we start we drop the

thinking is that we start we drop the

thinking is that we start we drop the rocket off the aircraft and five

rocket off the aircraft and five

rocket off the aircraft and five kilometers altitude which is actually

kilometers altitude which is actually

kilometers altitude which is actually not that high so it’s about half the

not that high so it’s about half the

not that high so it’s about half the altitude that’s a jet airliner with

altitude that’s a jet airliner with

altitude that’s a jet airliner with quiet so then mulches drops the rocket

quiet so then mulches drops the rocket

quiet so then mulches drops the rocket off it will then fire the booster and

off it will then fire the booster and

off it will then fire the booster and the booster will accelerate the rocket

the booster will accelerate the rocket

the booster will accelerate the rocket up to near the speed of sound but

up to near the speed of sound but

up to near the speed of sound but keeping below the speed of sound so

keeping below the speed of sound so

keeping below the speed of sound so that’s about the speed that an airline

that’s about the speed that an airline

that’s about the speed that an airline that flies act except the look it will

that flies act except the look it will

that flies act except the look it will be flying vertically and then it will

be flying vertically and then it will

be flying vertically and then it will drop off the booster it then goes to a

drop off the booster it then goes to a

drop off the booster it then goes to a sustainer which is another type of motor

sustainer which is another type of motor

sustainer which is another type of motor and that does not have so much power but

and that does not have so much power but

and that does not have so much power but if the idea is it burns for a long time

if the idea is it burns for a long time

if the idea is it burns for a long time so that the rocket slowly finds up to

so that the rocket slowly finds up to

so that the rocket slowly finds up to altitude and then you go to the final

altitude and then you go to the final

altitude and then you go to the final stage and this is roughly the size of

stage and this is roughly the size of

stage and this is roughly the size of the final stage so it’s a fairly you

the final stage so it’s a fairly you

the final stage so it’s a fairly you know the whole thing could fit in a car

know the whole thing could fit in a car

know the whole thing could fit in a car or a small van and the final stage will

or a small van and the final stage will

or a small van and the final stage will accelerate very quickly up to twice the

accelerate very quickly up to twice the

accelerate very quickly up to twice the speed of sound and then it will drift a

speed of sound and then it will drift a

speed of sound and then it will drift a little cruise up to an altitude of 50

little cruise up to an altitude of 50

little cruise up to an altitude of 50 kilometers and then the whole thing will

kilometers and then the whole thing will

kilometers and then the whole thing will come back down again parachutes and then

come back down again parachutes and then

come back down again parachutes and then it will land so that might not seem that

it will land so that might not seem that

it will land so that might not seem that greater achievement compared to some of

greater achievement compared to some of

greater achievement compared to some of the American

the American

the American launches but the thing is it’s done from

launches but the thing is it’s done from

launches but the thing is it’s done from the UK and then schoolchildren can see

the UK and then schoolchildren can see

the UK and then schoolchildren can see they can get involved in a British

they can get involved in a British

they can get involved in a British project rather than seeing some distance

project rather than seeing some distance

project rather than seeing some distance American project so I was going to

American project so I was going to

American project so I was going to finish off with them

finish off with them

finish off with them thinking about what do schoolchildren

thinking about what do schoolchildren

thinking about what do schoolchildren really want to see I was involved in a

really want to see I was involved in a

really want to see I was involved in a an amateur satellite it’s called funky

an amateur satellite it’s called funky

an amateur satellite it’s called funky as we talked about at the start and this

as we talked about at the start and this

as we talked about at the start and this has been this satellite has been heard

has been this satellite has been heard

has been this satellite has been heard by many thousands of school children

by many thousands of school children

by many thousands of school children around the world but I think that school

around the world but I think that school

around the world but I think that school children are not that interested in

children are not that interested in

children are not that interested in hearing satellites it’s great for a day

hearing satellites it’s great for a day

hearing satellites it’s great for a day out but what they really want to see is

out but what they really want to see is

out but what they really want to see is go to a rocket launch and that that

go to a rocket launch and that that

go to a rocket launch and that that would really fire up their imagination

would really fire up their imagination

would really fire up their imagination and that could lead us to the next

and that could lead us to the next

and that could lead us to the next generation of high-tech companies any

generation of high-tech companies any

generation of high-tech companies any questions

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