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Embracing Change in the Creative Process | Lindsay Ellyn & Taylor Alexander | TEDxRVA


my name is Lindsey Allen and I am –

my name is Lindsey Allen and I am – Alexander and in 48 hours we are getting

Alexander and in 48 hours we are getting

Alexander and in 48 hours we are getting married this is true it’s actually less

married this is true it’s actually less

married this is true it’s actually less than 48 it’s officially less than 48

than 48 it’s officially less than 48

than 48 it’s officially less than 48 hours so so what are we doing here right

hours so so what are we doing here right

hours so so what are we doing here right we should we should be back in Nashville

we should we should be back in Nashville

we should we should be back in Nashville preparing for a minor event that we’re

preparing for a minor event that we’re

preparing for a minor event that we’re having on Sunday yeah that would be the

having on Sunday yeah that would be the

having on Sunday yeah that would be the normal thing to do well we are two

normal thing to do well we are two

normal thing to do well we are two people who somewhere along the line made

people who somewhere along the line made

people who somewhere along the line made the conscious decision in life to pursue

the conscious decision in life to pursue

the conscious decision in life to pursue careers and music so we are not normal

careers and music so we are not normal

careers and music so we are not normal and so we are here and we’re so excited

and so we are here and we’re so excited

and so we are here and we’re so excited and well we want to talk about today is

and well we want to talk about today is

and well we want to talk about today is the creative process and changing the

the creative process and changing the

the creative process and changing the creative process to allow for

creative process to allow for

creative process to allow for partnership and collaboration which we

partnership and collaboration which we

partnership and collaboration which we really need to nail in the next 40 hours

really need to nail in the next 40 hours

really need to nail in the next 40 hours yeah so when this opportunity presented

yeah so when this opportunity presented

yeah so when this opportunity presented itself to speak at a TEDx event of

itself to speak at a TEDx event of

itself to speak at a TEDx event of course we jumped at it especially we

course we jumped at it especially we

course we jumped at it especially we found out that it was going to be all

found out that it was going to be all

found out that it was going to be all about change because we kind of saw this

about change because we kind of saw this

about change because we kind of saw this as an experiment to try out something

as an experiment to try out something

as an experiment to try out something that we’ve never tried out before like

that we’ve never tried out before like

that we’ve never tried out before like she was saying we get asked all the time

she was saying we get asked all the time

she was saying we get asked all the time since we’re a couple and we’re

since we’re a couple and we’re

since we’re a couple and we’re songwriters hey have you guys ever

songwriters hey have you guys ever

songwriters hey have you guys ever thought about writing a song together

there’s some reasons for that which

there’s some reasons for that which we’ll get into later but we tasked

we’ll get into later but we tasked

we’ll get into later but we tasked ourselves to see if we could make space

ourselves to see if we could make space

ourselves to see if we could make space in this really deeply personal creative

in this really deeply personal creative

in this really deeply personal creative process for one another and see if we’d

process for one another and see if we’d

process for one another and see if we’d come out as better artists at the end of

come out as better artists at the end of

come out as better artists at the end of it and Nashville is really a case study

it and Nashville is really a case study

it and Nashville is really a case study as to why this is important has anyone

as to why this is important has anyone

as to why this is important has anyone here spent any time in Nashville have

here spent any time in Nashville have

here spent any time in Nashville have you visited or oh good we’re in the

you visited or oh good we’re in the

you visited or oh good we’re in the right place well if you know anything

right place well if you know anything

right place well if you know anything about music grow in the process you know

about music grow in the process you know

about music grow in the process you know that it’s really interesting it’s it’s a

that it’s really interesting it’s it’s a

that it’s really interesting it’s it’s a town of really accomplished writers and

town of really accomplished writers and

town of really accomplished writers and they’re coming together sometimes in

they’re coming together sometimes in

they’re coming together sometimes in like a blind date kind of scenario and

like a blind date kind of scenario and

like a blind date kind of scenario and they’re writing a song or you know

they’re writing a song or you know

they’re writing a song or you know working on a song in a session and then

working on a song in a session and then

working on a song in a session and then it’s hopefully pitched and out the door

it’s hopefully pitched and out the door

it’s hopefully pitched and out the door for another artist to record pretty

for another artist to record pretty

for another artist to record pretty quickly and so a lot of the songs that

quickly and so a lot of the songs that

quickly and so a lot of the songs that you’ll hear on the radio for instance

you’ll hear on the radio for instance

you’ll hear on the radio for instance that are coming out of Nashville or even

that are coming out of Nashville or even

that are coming out of Nashville or even in LA in some cases are completed in

in LA in some cases are completed in

in LA in some cases are completed in this format actually the number one song

this format actually the number one song

this format actually the number one song on country radio right now was composed

on country radio right now was composed

on country radio right now was composed by four writers

by four writers

by four writers so it was kind of a culture shock in a

so it was kind of a culture shock in a

so it was kind of a culture shock in a certain sense I came from Georgia and

certain sense I came from Georgia and

certain sense I came from Georgia and she came from New York City and neither

she came from New York City and neither

she came from New York City and neither one of us had really plugged into a

one of us had really plugged into a

one of us had really plugged into a songwriting community so we hadn’t ever

songwriting community so we hadn’t ever

songwriting community so we hadn’t ever really thought to do that right to

really thought to do that right to

really thought to do that right to collaborate and write songs with other

collaborate and write songs with other

collaborate and write songs with other people we’d always done it alone there’s

people we’d always done it alone there’s

people we’d always done it alone there’s obviously a lot of merit though to a

obviously a lot of merit though to a

obviously a lot of merit though to a partnership in any industry but

partnership in any industry but

partnership in any industry but especially in creative endeavors but we

especially in creative endeavors but we

especially in creative endeavors but we like a lot of artists were kind of

like a lot of artists were kind of

like a lot of artists were kind of worried because we kind of had this idea

worried because we kind of had this idea

worried because we kind of had this idea that collaboration could water down our

that collaboration could water down our

that collaboration could water down our work or cause the song to like lose our

work or cause the song to like lose our

work or cause the song to like lose our personal voice or even worse like create

personal voice or even worse like create

personal voice or even worse like create this assembly line approach to music

this assembly line approach to music

this assembly line approach to music that kind of flew in the face of the

that kind of flew in the face of the

that kind of flew in the face of the reason why people like her and I decided

reason why people like her and I decided

reason why people like her and I decided to start writing music which was to

to start writing music which was to

to start writing music which was to write really personal kinds of stories

write really personal kinds of stories

write really personal kinds of stories and these sorts of things so in the

and these sorts of things so in the

and these sorts of things so in the spirit of change you know we saw this as

spirit of change you know we saw this as

spirit of change you know we saw this as a great opportunity to task ourselves to

a great opportunity to task ourselves to

a great opportunity to task ourselves to come together and co-write and y’all it

come together and co-write and y’all it

come together and co-write and y’all it was the best and most free like

was the best and most free like

was the best and most free like premarital counseling we could ever get

premarital counseling we could ever get

premarital counseling we could ever get conflict resolution yeah because it was

conflict resolution yeah because it was

conflict resolution yeah because it was so tough and changes tough right and we

so tough and changes tough right and we

so tough and changes tough right and we were vulnerable in ways we hadn’t been

were vulnerable in ways we hadn’t been

were vulnerable in ways we hadn’t been before we it wasn’t comfortable but we

before we it wasn’t comfortable but we

before we it wasn’t comfortable but we pushed through and we ended up writing a

pushed through and we ended up writing a

pushed through and we ended up writing a song and we learned a lot of things in

song and we learned a lot of things in

song and we learned a lot of things in the process and so we wanted to talk

the process and so we wanted to talk

the process and so we wanted to talk about that it was one thing that was

about that it was one thing that was

about that it was one thing that was kind of funny about it is it felt like

kind of funny about it is it felt like

kind of funny about it is it felt like this awkward first date with someone who

this awkward first date with someone who

this awkward first date with someone who had already agreed to marry really this

had already agreed to marry really this

had already agreed to marry really this is the first like key thing that I

is the first like key thing that I

is the first like key thing that I learned immediately was so I kind of

learned immediately was so I kind of

learned immediately was so I kind of came to the table with the idea for the

came to the table with the idea for the

came to the table with the idea for the song and so I think I felt like I had

song and so I think I felt like I had

song and so I think I felt like I had this at least a misplaced idea that I

this at least a misplaced idea that I

this at least a misplaced idea that I had kind of ownership or like it was my

had kind of ownership or like it was my

had kind of ownership or like it was my baby and so I found that collaborating

baby and so I found that collaborating

baby and so I found that collaborating for me in kind of evoke this

for me in kind of evoke this

for me in kind of evoke this fight-or-flight response I think that

fight-or-flight response I think that

fight-or-flight response I think that our artistry and our ideas our work gets

our artistry and our ideas our work gets

our artistry and our ideas our work gets really tied up in our self perception

really tied up in our self perception

really tied up in our self perception and so when somebody doesn’t like your

and so when somebody doesn’t like your

and so when somebody doesn’t like your idea or doesn’t really care for your

idea or doesn’t really care for your

idea or doesn’t really care for your work it tends to make your brain make

work it tends to make your brain make

work it tends to make your brain make you go crazy and I’ve kind of found that

you go crazy and I’ve kind of found that

you go crazy and I’ve kind of found that we were there button heads over the idea

we were there button heads over the idea

we were there button heads over the idea or you know leaving the room

or you know leaving the room

or you know leaving the room well those slamming the door didn’t

well those slamming the door didn’t

well those slamming the door didn’t happen

happen

happen bydd leave the room a couple you know so

bydd leave the room a couple you know so

bydd leave the room a couple you know so that said we learned that we really

that said we learned that we really

that said we learned that we really needed to assume positive intent from

needed to assume positive intent from

needed to assume positive intent from our collaborator our partner you know

our collaborator our partner you know

our collaborator our partner you know you think about in this kind of scenario

you think about in this kind of scenario

you think about in this kind of scenario for us it was writing songs but it could

for us it was writing songs but it could

for us it was writing songs but it could be in any collaborative process

be in any collaborative process

be in any collaborative process everyone’s coming into the room

everyone’s coming into the room

everyone’s coming into the room vulnerable and open and wanting to share

vulnerable and open and wanting to share

vulnerable and open and wanting to share and everyone’s coming to the table

and everyone’s coming to the table

and everyone’s coming to the table wanting to do a good job so we found

wanting to do a good job so we found

wanting to do a good job so we found that when we started from that place

that when we started from that place

that when we started from that place mentally it really transformed the

mentally it really transformed the

mentally it really transformed the process and allowed us to succeed in the

process and allowed us to succeed in the

process and allowed us to succeed in the right yeah

right yeah

right yeah the third thing here is that you have to

the third thing here is that you have to

the third thing here is that you have to learn when to surrender so we kind of

learn when to surrender so we kind of

learn when to surrender so we kind of found that we were fighting really hard

found that we were fighting really hard

found that we were fighting really hard like I said for our unique perspectives

like I said for our unique perspectives

like I said for our unique perspectives and things like this like we we wanted

and things like this like we we wanted

and things like this like we we wanted to get our line in there or whatever but

to get our line in there or whatever but

to get our line in there or whatever but what ended up happening was we just

what ended up happening was we just

what ended up happening was we just ended up kind of spinning our wheels we

ended up kind of spinning our wheels we

ended up kind of spinning our wheels we weren’t really getting anywhere because

weren’t really getting anywhere because

weren’t really getting anywhere because we weren’t creating space for each other

we weren’t creating space for each other

we weren’t creating space for each other to actually work and so when we learned

to actually work and so when we learned

to actually work and so when we learned how to let go of things and create space

how to let go of things and create space

how to let go of things and create space other priests are today succeed in the

other priests are today succeed in the

other priests are today succeed in the right and then she was less frustrated

right and then she was less frustrated

right and then she was less frustrated or vice versa and that was key to us

or vice versa and that was key to us

or vice versa and that was key to us actually completing this all it was it

actually completing this all it was it

actually completing this all it was it was critical and we’re so grateful that

was critical and we’re so grateful that

was critical and we’re so grateful that we learned that through the process and

we learned that through the process and

we learned that through the process and ultimately we learned that changing your

ultimately we learned that changing your

ultimately we learned that changing your creative process drastically changes

creative process drastically changes

creative process drastically changes your product but that’s the beauty of

your product but that’s the beauty of

your product but that’s the beauty of collaborating and so you walk away with

collaborating and so you walk away with

collaborating and so you walk away with something that you could have never made

something that you could have never made

something that you could have never made by yourself that you made with another

by yourself that you made with another

by yourself that you made with another person and in our book that’s growing

person and in our book that’s growing

person and in our book that’s growing and that’s a success yeah absolutely so

and that’s a success yeah absolutely so

and that’s a success yeah absolutely so I’d really like to task

I’d really like to task

I’d really like to task everybody in here whether it’s in

everybody in here whether it’s in

everybody in here whether it’s in creative endeavors or anything else to

creative endeavors or anything else to

creative endeavors or anything else to allow collaboration yeah and collaborate

allow collaboration yeah and collaborate

allow collaboration yeah and collaborate in ways that make you a little

in ways that make you a little

in ways that make you a little uncomfortable and kind of kick you

uncomfortable and kind of kick you

uncomfortable and kind of kick you outside of your comfort zone we did for

outside of your comfort zone we did for

outside of your comfort zone we did for the sake of this talk and we want to

the sake of this talk and we want to

the sake of this talk and we want to share of a song that we wrote it’s the

share of a song that we wrote it’s the

share of a song that we wrote it’s the first song we’ve ever written together

first song we’ve ever written together

first song we’ve ever written together and it’s called the real thing and

and it’s called the real thing and

and it’s called the real thing and Taylor why don’t you tell a little bit

Taylor why don’t you tell a little bit

Taylor why don’t you tell a little bit about kind of how you came up with the

about kind of how you came up with the

about kind of how you came up with the idea for the song like I was saying

idea for the song like I was saying

idea for the song like I was saying earlier I had the original idea for this

earlier I had the original idea for this

earlier I had the original idea for this and then I brought it to her and I had

and then I brought it to her and I had

and then I brought it to her and I had the idea when I was at a concert seeing

the idea when I was at a concert seeing

the idea when I was at a concert seeing music and I was looking around and

music and I was looking around and

music and I was looking around and there’s this new thing that I hadn’t

there’s this new thing that I hadn’t

there’s this new thing that I hadn’t noticed until like the last five years

noticed until like the last five years

noticed until like the last five years where everyone watches the concert like

where everyone watches the concert like

where everyone watches the concert like this through their iPhone you have ever

this through their iPhone you have ever

this through their iPhone you have ever seen that and I thought it was super

seen that and I thought it was super

seen that and I thought it was super weird in like

weird in like

weird in like I mean this is like I said it’s

I mean this is like I said it’s

I mean this is like I said it’s something that’s only been able to

something that’s only been able to

something that’s only been able to happen for the last five years in it

happen for the last five years in it

happen for the last five years in it made me think that we really do kind of

made me think that we really do kind of

made me think that we really do kind of live our lives through pictures a lot

live our lives through pictures a lot

live our lives through pictures a lot and maybe we miss out on some things

and maybe we miss out on some things

and maybe we miss out on some things when we do that and that’s kind of what

when we do that and that’s kind of what

when we do that and that’s kind of what the song is about so I hope you guys

the song is about so I hope you guys

the song is about so I hope you guys enjoy it

[Music]

[Music] I won’t fat and no picture-postcard

I won’t fat and no picture-postcard

I won’t fat and no picture-postcard [Music]

[Music]

[Music] greetings from somewhere mills and

greetings from somewhere mills and

greetings from somewhere mills and though I wish you were here

though I wish you were here

though I wish you were here it sounded sincere I can’t say I’ve gone

it sounded sincere I can’t say I’ve gone

it sounded sincere I can’t say I’ve gone myself

that ain’t the real thing

that ain’t the real thing [Music]

you wait for it’s an holyday glad to

you wait for it’s an holyday glad to come sweep you off your feet but you can

come sweep you off your feet but you can

come sweep you off your feet but you can turn down the skies of no measure to

turn down the skies of no measure to

turn down the skies of no measure to work they said on TV are you the real

work they said on TV are you the real

work they said on TV are you the real thing

have you thought about the moments you

have you thought about the moments you barely miss but you were busy taking

barely miss but you were busy taking

barely miss but you were busy taking pictures so you don’t forget we’re a

pictures so you don’t forget we’re a

pictures so you don’t forget we’re a thousand words any words Allah would not

thousand words any words Allah would not

thousand words any words Allah would not you read me one it was the real thing

[Music]

[Music] bring the real thing

bring the real thing

bring the real thing [Music]

we flip through and read a cheap

we flip through and read a cheap magazine or you spend in the chicken

magazine or you spend in the chicken

magazine or you spend in the chicken [Music]

[Music]

[Music] we’re just a face on a page but don’t

we’re just a face on a page but don’t

we’re just a face on a page but don’t look her age I’m very sorry sir

look her age I’m very sorry sir

look her age I’m very sorry sir [Music]

the real thing

the real thing [Music]

[Music]

[Music] have thought about the moment you barely

have thought about the moment you barely

have thought about the moment you barely missed but you were busy taking pictures

missed but you were busy taking pictures

missed but you were busy taking pictures so you don’t forget where the thousand

so you don’t forget where the thousand

so you don’t forget where the thousand words anywhere to laugh when I was the

words anywhere to laugh when I was the

words anywhere to laugh when I was the real thing

with a thousand words saying where’s the

with a thousand words saying where’s the light wood now you really won’t it was

light wood now you really won’t it was

light wood now you really won’t it was the real thing

the real thing

the real thing [Music]

[Music]

[Music] there are you thing

there are you thing

there are you thing [Music]

[Music]

[Music] [Applause]

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